Mate your channel is literally one of the most interesting I’ve ever come across - You’re responsible for making me wake up about tyres and appreciate just what a fantastic piece of engineering the modern premium tyre is, as well as just where the extra 15 or 20 quid a corner goes and why you should pay it Well done and thank you.
I agree! Tires really are marvels of engineering. So much goes into their design. The chemistry of the rubber compound, tread design to account for dry/wet/noise, treadwear, internal structure, weight, fuel economy etc. Once you know this you can never skimp on tires again.
Looks like highway tire makes the most sense for me. As much as I like the aggressive look of the AT, my 4runner is a commuter vehicle and not much more. Mpg and safety outweigh my zombie apocalypse prep
Would it be lame or irresponsible to buy an MT tire just for the looks? I don't really need it, but I think it makes my 4runner look better. My wife drives the 4runner sometimes tho...
I really wish this channel had way more viewers as it gives so valuable info for any driver, this is way more useful than a day to day reviews of a car already reviewed hundreds of times by other youtubers or other things like gadgets and oil , IMHO. And yes, SAFETY. Tl.dr.: useful channel should be more popular.
Exactly. This is the difference between what was done here under controlled conditions in a professional manner vs tests done by other RUclipsrs in an amateur setting.
I run Grabber ATX on my TRD Pro Tundra. ATX is great in both on a and off road. ATX is fantastic in snow, both wet and dry. Overall excellent tire, did kill my MPG a bit but to be expected for the size I purchased.
I work construction in Texas. Most of the new construction is in rural areas that often don't have paved roads yet. Street tires work fine in the dry, but the softer compounds wear quicker on unpaved roads. When things get wet, the Texas clay gumbo gets really slick and you're not getting in or out on street tires and two wheel drive. Even a 4x4 with open diffs will get stuck with the wrong tires. You may drive 50 miles on paved roads to get to the job site, but if that last 50 yards is mud, you want M/T tires or aggressive A/Ts on your truck. An oversized A/T is probably the sweet spot.
Came here for a tire/tyre review. Got it. Stayed because of the thorough review I was receiving. Subscribed because... this man is drifting casually on loose soil/gravel and still spitting out all of his topics like, "no big." :-| Wish I could give you two thumbs up and 10 subscribes.
I really like that you pointed out the difference in braking on the road. I definitely get that off-road tires look cool, but those couple of meters of braking distance and the loss of cornering ability could be make the difference between losing control or maintaining control when you have to swerve to avoid an obstruction in the road, or hitting something because you couldn't brake in time. In reality, most people are spending more time on road, and their off-roading will mostly consist of gravel or dirt roads, so it makes sense in terms of safety to have more grip on the road where traffic and the unpredictability that comes with it is, and just go slower off-road to make up for the lack of traction
Nice to see this level of testing and you are speaking my language . I hope you liked the X3 MT tire. I spent a lot of time working with the design engineers to make that tire work! I have to say that dirt rally course and wet handling is some of the best surfaces I have tested on. You are also correct on the dirt rally course, after a few laps the surface changes quickly! Keep up the great work on doing these tests the right way!
Thank you for yet another video packed with tons of research, effort, and data; you deserve a lot more followers and views for your work! I can pretty much guarantee 99% of guys with oversized mud tires on their trucks are using their trucks for off-road use waaaaaaaaaaaaay less than 30% of the time. (Guys...construction sites really don't count. I've done tons of sites in hatchbacks and small SUVs on stock tire sizes. Quit overcompensating...)
I really truly don't mind for longer videos, in opposite I would appreciate longer videos. I really like your guides, thanks to your work with all testing my family and I can travel safe and comfortable every day. Awesome work. Thank you very much. Greetings
I run a HTS60 on my old 1st gen Frontera (or Isuzu Rodeo, or Honda Passport, and so on), and i have to say that a lot depends on the car itself. Tyres cant do wonders alone, they need good alignement, and a suspension to work with. None the less, these tyres serve me good all year round 👌
Hands effing down - the BEST and most comprehensive, easy to understand tyre review ever! Makes deciding the kind of tyre to pick so damn easy! And the link for the adjusting the weighting as per your own use case (in the link provided) - can't get a better tool to help you decide. Am in awe! Thanks guys!!! Given the Suzuki Jimny has somewhat small HTs, I will, at best, upgrade to a slightly larger HT or mild AT given I will spend most of my time on tarmac or rough / bad tarmac, and given some serious rains in the seasonal monsoons.
I used to drive Land Rovers a lot in the UK, Grabber AT (or BFGoodrich AT) are the best all-rounders for a mix of on and off road use. I used a specific mud biased tyre if regularly going though heavy clay type terrain, for anything else the AT's are good enough. The taller the tyre the better it deals with offroad generally, width of tyre depends on terrain, do you need to float on the surface or cut through the mud. There's a good reason why Land Rover fit 7.50x16 to farm and military vehicles, it works well in most conditions. Great review!
Yep have stuck with standard 7.5 x 16 (about 190mm width) on my ex-MOD Defender ‘cause when you go wide the on-road and snow performance is so compromised it’s better to accept the low lateral grip such a narrow tyre provides. Getting a Defender sideways is so scary you learn to do your braking well before corners anyway!
Awesome test. It backs up what the local hunters say; they pick ht hires for their trucks that they drive around ranches. The road performance you give up with an at/mt tire is a huge negative compared to the minor increase in off road performance.
Cool Watching ! .. I'm not going say any comparison with the most .., "popular" .., brand , but I made the switch to the Grabber AT/X s , and the grip and the bite are incredible !!! peace
Living in the Lake Tahoe basin in Nevada we have a lot of snow and packed snow roads half the year yet I also go off road once in a while! I wanted a softer compound tire with thread that is aggressive yet quiet driving down the road. I found it with the Bridgestone Dueler Rugged Terrain 245/70 R-16 that grips icy roads not as good as studded tires but good enough for me to drive safely while others on the road are squirreling all over the place. I am happy to only get around 40,000 miles on a set replacing them with 6/32's of an inch thread left as new it comes with an inch of thread. Not everybody can have off road only tires and street tires that this is a great compromise.
Very interesting! I work for a tyre wholesaler & the specialist off road stuff isn't something we really do nor do i have as much knowledge of vs road tyres so your video has been very handy!
I run HT tires on my work truck I drive on road most of the time and maybe off road 20%of the time manly dirt roads . What is more import to me is if good it the snow also ..
Whole point of the video. Hey mom look @ me drive like an idiot one handed while giving hand gestures with the other. No tire test, just look at my crazy driving skills. No one in their right mind is going to drive like that under those kind of conditions , unless they had been bitten by a Black Mamba and they were headed to the hospital to maybe save their life. I would ask driver to stop @ suck out the poison.
My first "fun truck" had huge Mud Tires and I loved em. That truck was pure testosterone! But then I replaced the M/T with A/T and I sold it shortly after that. Years later with my current Truck I went from a H/T to A/T and I love the upgrade. I'm just too old and conserved to buy M/T although they would've looked bad ass! I'm happy with my A/T's.
I sell General tyres as our 'homebrand'. AT's are more popular than the HTS's, i think it's something about the 'pick-up driver' wanting that chunky look. I should let them watch this video and especially the difference in stopping distance 😅
I have a 2017 F-150 4x4 off road package. I don’t go ‘mudding’ but will go on dirt and gravel. The Goodyear A/T that came on the truck were junk. They were very stiff, offering not so great off road traction and suffered terrible wet pavement driving when accelerating and cornering. I swapped them with the Cooper SRX and it was night and day. Way better handling, I don’t need 4x4 when it rains lol , they are quiet and smooth and are more predictable on dirt.
Great testing of these tires for my decision making. For my 2010 Ram 1500, the Grabber HTS 60 is probably the tire that I will go with...Mainly for street and highway, but well capable of handling some off road conditions for when I go fishing way off the roads on lumpy, bumpety trails. Thanks for sharing the info!
@@ashishanshuman3074sure. About 20 years ago I threw a set of 34” heavy AT tires onto an f150 with just a level kit. I was wanting to have better off road performance in gravel and occasional mud. I was mostly convinced by a friend but read some online forums as well. They were quite expensive. I was using it as a daily driver during the weekday. I immediately noticed the fuel economy hit and it was noisy sure. But what bothered me is that the on road traction loss is really noticeable. The back tires would squeal under much lighter acceleration, cornering and breaking. Also these tires were very heavy. The front end of the vehicle started to wear (tie rods, ball joints) quicker than normal. Also for mud the traction was better but overall the off road driving quality was worse due to a lack of suspension upgrade for the tires. 10 ply mud tires are going to be heavy even if they’re the same size as a 4 ply road tire. They’re also firmed. So I felt the bumps way more and I think that also contributed to some vehicle wear. In the end after three years it wasn’t worth it anymore and I went back to regular road tires. I think some people can put up with those compromises or dont daily their vehicles. But for me it felt unsafe. My current vehicle I run basic AT tires. They don’t look as aggressive but the sacrifices on the road are much less and they do not require any suspension modification. That’s my story
@@giobikefans this was indeed insightful, I was planning on upgrading from regular road tires to MT or AT tires but wasn’t sure, your write cleared a lot of doubts , thank you.
I have a RAM 1500, am currently running M/T and I honestly want to change. It is my daily driver for the most part and I get 9mpg with 37's. I want to enjoy driving my truck again. Thinking of going down to 35's and getting either an A/T or H/T. I do drive in mud occasionally, but not enough to justify buying M/T again. Great video! Definitely helped me narrow my choices.
Epic work man!!! I was searching for a test like that since 3 months! As a carmecanic, i know how much work it needed to realize this video. Great job! And also the illustratet testresults, i hate when people do reviews and just talk about their feelings theyve had with the tires.
@tirereview: Please do a review of all AT-tires with snowflake and test it alsp in the snow. That would be awesome! []Falken Wildpeak []Bridgestone Dueler A/T 001 []BF Goodgridge AT KO2 []Cooper Discoverer AT3 LT []Pirelli AT Plus []Nokian Rotiiva AT plus []Yokohama Geolandar AT g015 []Hankook Dynapro AT []Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac []Toyo Opencountry
With all due respect! The grassy hills, fields and back yard runs tell a lot about the versatility of a tire! Tilling is not good. Cutting a pattern, but leaving the grass/turf intact is vital. Field work. Pruning the orchards. Hauling trailers with yard debris is a lot of what rural trucks are doing. Wet or dry the jobs must be done. My Dean Back Country AT2 with a loaded f250 are the best I have ever used! Pulls heavy trailers accross the fields great!
Good info, as always. But make sure you check your (state) goverment's rules and regulations for tyre sizing limits, if they have them. For example, in Australia, in Queensland, you can perform a lift of 50mm max, without an engineer's certificate (as long as the vehicle has Stability control) plus 25mm on the tyre, but in NSW that number decreases to 15mm.
The bigger tyres are changing your gear ratios, basically meaning there's less force from the motor reaching the ground. If youre putting on significantly larger diameter tyres you really need to adjust your gear ratios to match.
Daniel I some of these newer trucks may not need gear swaps. 2017+ F-150 trucks have a 10 speed and the ratios are very close. 1st gear is 4.69:1 and second gear is 2.98:1. Multiply that ratio into the axle which in most of the trucks with 4x4 it’s 3.55:1. That’s a ton of gearing to get the truck rolling.
From watching your videos, I have realized 2 things 1. you need 3 tires for your truck, a highway tire for great ride, braking, handling, quiet. less vibration like the new Continental TerrainContact HT for most of the time on the pavement, then get your jack and wheel wrench to put on General Grabber X3 for going off the pavement, For Winter get your jack and wheel wrench again to put on Continental VikingContact 7 I know you haven't did a video on the Conti's yet, as they are new to the market, waiting patiently for you to do them Maybe the Continental VikingContact 7 this fall coming into snow tire season I have my notifications on waiting for these 2. You have a wicked set of arms and body for a guy who drives cars, that's better than guys who do workout videos You should do a workout video 👍
@@tyrereviews I live in Ontario, Canada, what about ice and hard packed snow that's same as ice, also a stop signs where the vehicles brake, is same as water on ice everybody that lives in a area that drops below freezing, will get those conditions Snow is easy, if there was no ice, i wouldn't even swap them put it up against the continental vikingcontact 7 for fun Just my opinion, but ht tires in winter on ice is the same as trying to go in the mud with them
Cool test, but you broke two vehicles during the test? That Ford must be a joke. My 1996 Toyota 4Runner has been sacked through mud bogs and put away sopping wet over a hundred times througout the past 20 years and has never broken. The thing is at 350,000 miles and I still bag on it in the mud like twice a month. Never quits.
I regret putting H/T Bridgestone Alenza Plus on my Jeep Liberty. Althoug the best road tire I've ever used...it simply sucked in light snow/ice or gravel roads. It's a solid feeling tire but I could not even back out of my drive when it snowed 8 inches thick heavy snow and I had put in 4x4! I need to get A/T tires soon!
Amazing work! These reviews just keep getting better. Is there a possibility you could test budget summer performance tires like the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 to mainstream ones like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and Continental Extreme Contact Sport? Thanks for the excellent videos!
I recently changed my Tacoma AT tires to an HT since my truck rarely see’s dirt. Honestly, my truck breaks better, handled better and faster. All saves me gas! The only downside for me is they don’t look as good as the AT.
I have 2014 crewmax tundra , 5.7 an it came with 33-12.5-20 m/t an ill tell you doing donuts in the local 4×4 area in the mud is awesome, but it dose spin out on pavement in the the rain , what people tend to do here is swap m/ts ,in the summer for good aggressive a/t , then back to mt in winter . I have toyo open country's m/t an there best tire ive ever had .
I've had Grabber A/T X's on my Dodge ram 1500 quad cab for 18months now here in Ohio. Quiet, good winter traction, great gravel and mild off road. Like them alot. Truck used for hauling firewood, mulch and a travel trailor, not my everyday driver as gas mileage isn't great ( not entirely the tires fault ). I would buy them again. Traction in heavy rain and wet roads is my only complait but it's to be expected for an A/T tire.
I’m a rig welder works pipeline in Texas and New Mexico and Oklahoma I spent about 80 % hwy and 20% offroad and I’ve owned muds, hwy , and all terrains … For my line of work and lifestyle the best tire ive owned is the general atx!!! 50-60 k on them every time.. rotate every oil chage witch in my truck it’s every 10k miles.
The one thing that wasn't tested and is the death knell of Mud Tires is snow. Mud tires, with literally zero siping are terrible in snow. And aggressive all terrains with a lot of siping like the KO2 are almost as good as snow tires in snow.
I dont have a truck like that, but I can apreciate the effort for making this review, good job! Maybe you will consider also a test for SUVs, I would like to find out what are the best tyres if you want to take the car for some light off roading from time to time. Do all season tyres work better off-road than normal summer tyres, is it to much of a compromise etc. Greetings from Romania!
I had some General Grabber AT on my Jeep some years ago. They where great new, but they wore out real fast. The became intolerably loud and started tramlining worse than an old BMW with wide tires and the wrong ET. (Jeep was pretty much new original components with no lift or such in drivetrain, put a lot of money in it)
@@tyrereviews I bet it is. If you ever want to make a video of testing tires in gangfull Sinaloa México, you are welcomed. Full of road pots, there must be a better tire for this, isn’t it?
I would dream of off-roading in the UK- never too far from civilisation, very few blackspots for mobiles, no bull dust, or dust in general - no intense heat, no lack of water, at most the hardest terrain will be mud and some crags/rocks - I am comparing with Australia of course! LOLLZZZ
I haven't been true off roading in years, not counting dirt road shortcuts I use from time to time - But this was genuinely interesting to watch. My favorite part? MUDDING! :-)
This was good as far as it went, but no comparison in the rain, and no comparison in the snow. Here in Salt Lake City, these are two areas where the proper tires can save your life even if you are not driving hard on either road or trail.
Hey you mentioned Moab! Only a few hours away from where I live. :) And yes, I too recommend mud terrain for that type of driving there. Great video as usual!
breathe and squeeze "a little scratch" yeah, I highly doubt it was something small. You just want to shit on something you have no idea about. I've had a kevlar MTR blow out. The strongest sidewalls on the market must have been junk, huh?
Great video as always. Just bought a 2019 Bi-Turbo Ford Ranger Wildtrak too. You should do a video on the different manufacturers and their SUV/Pickup tyre offerings similar to the summer tyres shootout. Unlike summer tyers I absolutely have no idea when it comes to SUV/pickup/offroad tyres and I suspect a lot of people don't as well.
@@tyrereviews Australia market and Philippines market actually. I have a Focus RS in Aus and the Ranger Wildtrak is actually my sister's in the Philippines. She needed a pickup for work since she works in the construction industry and since she's not that knowledgeable on cars I test drove a bunch and I picked one for her. She also loves trekking and travels off-road locations because of it. Trouble is since I don't know anything about SUV/All terrain tyres, I wouldn't know what brand or model to recommend once they need replacing as I have no idea about them. Oh and I do believe the US just started selling the T6 Ranger this year but they only offer the 2.3l Petrol Ecoboost engine whereas Australia and everywhere else gets the diesel turbo engines.
I guess it’s all about balance of your usage , I wonder how the hts grip resistance is in real world a I appreciate what your saying put yours is a perfect flat surface, go off camping in the back roads you have a very uneven up and down mixes surface
6 days to get everything tested. That deserves a thumb up
Haha thank you. Then at least another week in edit 😅
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That’s a true honest test. Respect ✊
I couldn't agree more
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Mate your channel is literally one of the most interesting I’ve ever come across - You’re responsible for making me wake up about tyres and appreciate just what a fantastic piece of engineering the modern premium tyre is, as well as just where the extra 15 or 20 quid a corner goes and why you should pay it
Well done and thank you.
Very kind of you to say, thank you :)
I agree! Tires really are marvels of engineering. So much goes into their design. The chemistry of the rubber compound, tread design to account for dry/wet/noise, treadwear, internal structure, weight, fuel economy etc. Once you know this you can never skimp on tires again.
I really like the level of detail and precision. Helped a lot!
Glad it was useful :)
Helped a lot??? in what?? your DAKAR rally testing "face-palm"
Wishing we had the 30-minute borefest, actually.
This guy is boss! Ripping shit up and talking causally at the same time! That's how you do it!
Thats what made me subscribe...plus no BS or filler.....just giving input.
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Looks like highway tire makes the most sense for me. As much as I like the aggressive look of the AT, my 4runner is a commuter vehicle and not much more. Mpg and safety outweigh my zombie apocalypse prep
Would it be lame or irresponsible to buy an MT tire just for the looks? I don't really need it, but I think it makes my 4runner look better. My wife drives the 4runner sometimes tho...
This Dude is “CASUALLY” driving like a Badass Super Secret Agent... 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
It's cute you think he is the test driver.
I really wish this channel had way more viewers as it gives so valuable info for any driver, this is way more useful than a day to day reviews of a car already reviewed hundreds of times by other youtubers or other things like gadgets and oil , IMHO. And yes, SAFETY.
Tl.dr.: useful channel should be more popular.
Thank you!
Exactly. This is the difference between what was done here under controlled conditions in a professional manner vs tests done by other RUclipsrs in an amateur setting.
I run Grabber ATX on my TRD Pro Tundra. ATX is great in both on a and off road. ATX is fantastic in snow, both wet and dry. Overall excellent tire, did kill my MPG a bit but to be expected for the size I purchased.
Glad you're enjoying them :)
Bruh..... your driving deserves an applause.
Thanks dude
I work construction in Texas. Most of the new construction is in rural areas that often don't have paved roads yet. Street tires work fine in the dry, but the softer compounds wear quicker on unpaved roads. When things get wet, the Texas clay gumbo gets really slick and you're not getting in or out on street tires and two wheel drive. Even a 4x4 with open diffs will get stuck with the wrong tires. You may drive 50 miles on paved roads to get to the job site, but if that last 50 yards is mud, you want M/T tires or aggressive A/Ts on your truck. An oversized A/T is probably the sweet spot.
That Texas clay dries like concrete too, it's amazing stuff!
Same here. Construction in Louisiana. I need hybrid or mud tires just to get around on the beginning phases of jobs.
Came here for a tire/tyre review. Got it. Stayed because of the thorough review I was receiving. Subscribed because... this man is drifting casually on loose soil/gravel and still spitting out all of his topics like, "no big." :-|
Wish I could give you two thumbs up and 10 subscribes.
I really like that you pointed out the difference in braking on the road. I definitely get that off-road tires look cool, but those couple of meters of braking distance and the loss of cornering ability could be make the difference between losing control or maintaining control when you have to swerve to avoid an obstruction in the road, or hitting something because you couldn't brake in time. In reality, most people are spending more time on road, and their off-roading will mostly consist of gravel or dirt roads, so it makes sense in terms of safety to have more grip on the road where traffic and the unpredictability that comes with it is, and just go slower off-road to make up for the lack of traction
Well said
Nice to see this level of testing and you are speaking my language . I hope you liked the X3 MT tire. I spent a lot of time working with the design engineers to make that tire work! I have to say that dirt rally course and wet handling is some of the best surfaces I have tested on. You are also correct on the dirt rally course, after a few laps the surface changes quickly! Keep up the great work on doing these tests the right way!
Thank you, great tyre! We've actually filmed a few winter videos with it for this fall, so stay subbed to see it again :)
Absolutely LOVED watching the Frontier pulling the Raptor out of the mud! Also, very good info. Thanks for doing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for yet another video packed with tons of research, effort, and data; you deserve a lot more followers and views for your work! I can pretty much guarantee 99% of guys with oversized mud tires on their trucks are using their trucks for off-road use waaaaaaaaaaaaay less than 30% of the time. (Guys...construction sites really don't count. I've done tons of sites in hatchbacks and small SUVs on stock tire sizes. Quit overcompensating...)
I'm not into offroad, still watched the whole thing.
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How are you not into offroad. That shit is fun asf
Ditto
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I really truly don't mind for longer videos, in opposite I would appreciate longer videos. I really like your guides, thanks to your work with all testing my family and I can travel safe and comfortable every day. Awesome work. Thank you very much. Greetings
I run a HTS60 on my old 1st gen Frontera (or Isuzu Rodeo, or Honda Passport, and so on), and i have to say that a lot depends on the car itself. Tyres cant do wonders alone, they need good alignement, and a suspension to work with. None the less, these tyres serve me good all year round 👌
This test was so real that the Ford had to be towed out by the Nissan. lol.
Little Frontier for the win!
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I love watching people in lifted Fords get all pissed off when my little Frontier runs circles around them in the snow.
Hands effing down - the BEST and most comprehensive, easy to understand tyre review ever! Makes deciding the kind of tyre to pick so damn easy! And the link for the adjusting the weighting as per your own use case (in the link provided) - can't get a better tool to help you decide. Am in awe! Thanks guys!!!
Given the Suzuki Jimny has somewhat small HTs, I will, at best, upgrade to a slightly larger HT or mild AT given I will spend most of my time on tarmac or rough / bad tarmac, and given some serious rains in the seasonal monsoons.
Glad you find it useful :D
That 6.2 howl in the background sounds beautiful! Awesome video!
Thanks! It has an exhaust :)
The best and most important channel on Utube. Who else would know about black circles
I used to drive Land Rovers a lot in the UK, Grabber AT (or BFGoodrich AT) are the best all-rounders for a mix of on and off road use. I used a specific mud biased tyre if regularly going though heavy clay type terrain, for anything else the AT's are good enough. The taller the tyre the better it deals with offroad generally, width of tyre depends on terrain, do you need to float on the surface or cut through the mud. There's a good reason why Land Rover fit 7.50x16 to farm and military vehicles, it works well in most conditions. Great review!
Thanks for the feedback :)
Yep have stuck with standard 7.5 x 16 (about 190mm width) on my ex-MOD Defender ‘cause when you go wide the on-road and snow performance is so compromised it’s better to accept the low lateral grip such a narrow tyre provides. Getting a Defender sideways is so scary you learn to do your braking well before corners anyway!
Awesome test. It backs up what the local hunters say; they pick ht hires for their trucks that they drive around ranches. The road performance you give up with an at/mt tire is a huge negative compared to the minor increase in off road performance.
Cool Watching ! .. I'm not going say any comparison with the most .., "popular" .., brand , but I made the switch to the Grabber AT/X s , and the grip and the bite are incredible !!! peace
Living in the Lake Tahoe basin in Nevada we have a lot of snow and packed snow roads half the year yet I also go off road once in a while! I wanted a softer compound tire with thread that is aggressive yet quiet driving down the road. I found it with the Bridgestone Dueler Rugged Terrain 245/70 R-16 that grips icy roads not as good as studded tires but good enough for me to drive safely while others on the road are squirreling all over the place. I am happy to only get around 40,000 miles on a set replacing them with 6/32's of an inch thread left as new it comes with an inch of thread. Not everybody can have off road only tires and street tires that this is a great compromise.
Very interesting! I work for a tyre wholesaler & the specialist off road stuff isn't something we really do nor do i have as much knowledge of vs road tyres so your video has been very handy!
I run HT tires on my work truck I drive on road most of the time and maybe off road 20%of the time manly dirt roads . What is more import to me is if good it the snow also ..
I'd like to do snow testing soon with these tyres :)
I’m curious what size the all seasons were, looking for some for my 2011 Raptor without making it look dumb.
That's a great video. Your driving skills are awesome; very precise and fluid style. Great job and keep it up!
Whole point of the video. Hey mom look @ me drive like an idiot one handed while giving hand gestures with the other. No tire test, just look at my crazy driving skills. No one in their right mind is going to drive like that under those kind of conditions , unless they had been bitten by a Black Mamba and they were headed to the hospital to maybe save their life. I would ask driver to stop @ suck out the poison.
My first "fun truck" had huge Mud Tires and I loved em. That truck was pure testosterone! But then I replaced the M/T with A/T and I sold it shortly after that. Years later with my current Truck I went from a H/T to A/T and I love the upgrade. I'm just too old and conserved to buy M/T although they would've looked bad ass! I'm happy with my A/T's.
Definitely one of the best channels on RUclips!
I sell General tyres as our 'homebrand'.
AT's are more popular than the HTS's, i think it's something about the 'pick-up driver' wanting that chunky look.
I should let them watch this video and especially the difference in stopping distance 😅
Hopefully it'll help dispell some myths!
I have a 2017 F-150 4x4 off road package. I don’t go ‘mudding’ but will go on dirt and gravel. The Goodyear A/T that came on the truck were junk. They were very stiff, offering not so great off road traction and suffered terrible wet pavement driving when accelerating and cornering. I swapped them with the Cooper SRX and it was night and day. Way better handling, I don’t need 4x4 when it rains lol , they are quiet and smooth and are more predictable on dirt.
I'll never own a truck, but, these videos are enjoyable and fun to look at! Continue the excellent work 💪
I really want a truck now
Great stuff! Really appreciate the hard work that goes into these videos
Thank you :)
Great testing of these tires for my decision making. For my 2010 Ram 1500, the Grabber HTS 60 is probably the tire that I will go with...Mainly for street and highway, but well capable of handling some off road conditions for when I go fishing way off the roads on lumpy, bumpety trails. Thanks for sharing the info!
What a great video. Should be required viewing for every car owner. So informative!! Plus Im from Texas so thats a plus
I learned the lessons you described the hard way, glad there is a channel like this now
How did you learn it the hard way and what was your learning experience, would be kind if you explained
@@ashishanshuman3074sure. About 20 years ago I threw a set of 34” heavy AT tires onto an f150 with just a level kit. I was wanting to have better off road performance in gravel and occasional mud. I was mostly convinced by a friend but read some online forums as well. They were quite expensive.
I was using it as a daily driver during the weekday. I immediately noticed the fuel economy hit and it was noisy sure. But what bothered me is that the on road traction loss is really noticeable. The back tires would squeal under much lighter acceleration, cornering and breaking.
Also these tires were very heavy. The front end of the vehicle started to wear (tie rods, ball joints) quicker than normal.
Also for mud the traction was better but overall the off road driving quality was worse due to a lack of suspension upgrade for the tires. 10 ply mud tires are going to be heavy even if they’re the same size as a 4 ply road tire. They’re also firmed. So I felt the bumps way more and I think that also contributed to some vehicle wear.
In the end after three years it wasn’t worth it anymore and I went back to regular road tires. I think some people can put up with those compromises or dont daily their vehicles. But for me it felt unsafe.
My current vehicle I run basic AT tires. They don’t look as aggressive but the sacrifices on the road are much less and they do not require any suspension modification.
That’s my story
@@giobikefans this was indeed insightful, I was planning on upgrading from regular road tires to MT or AT tires but wasn’t sure, your write cleared a lot of doubts , thank you.
@@ashishanshuman3074 glad to help!
I have a RAM 1500, am currently running M/T and I honestly want to change. It is my daily driver for the most part and I get 9mpg with 37's. I want to enjoy driving my truck again. Thinking of going down to 35's and getting either an A/T or H/T. I do drive in mud occasionally, but not enough to justify buying M/T again. Great video! Definitely helped me narrow my choices.
Epic work man!!! I was searching for a test like that since 3 months!
As a carmecanic, i know how much work it needed to realize this video. Great job!
And also the illustratet testresults, i hate when people do reviews and just talk about their feelings theyve had with the tires.
@tirereview:
Please do a review of all AT-tires with snowflake and test it alsp in the snow. That would be awesome!
[]Falken Wildpeak
[]Bridgestone Dueler A/T 001
[]BF Goodgridge AT KO2
[]Cooper Discoverer AT3 LT
[]Pirelli AT Plus
[]Nokian Rotiiva AT plus
[]Yokohama Geolandar AT g015
[]Hankook Dynapro AT
[]Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac
[]Toyo Opencountry
Thank you :) I've actually tested these four tyres on snow, video out later this year!
@@tyrereviews Nice! Im looking forward;)
I Think this also said some things about the vehicle that didn't last the whole test.
With all due respect! The grassy hills, fields and back yard runs tell a lot about the versatility of a tire! Tilling is not good. Cutting a pattern, but leaving the grass/turf intact is vital. Field work. Pruning the orchards. Hauling trailers with yard debris is a lot of what rural trucks are doing. Wet or dry the jobs must be done. My Dean Back Country AT2 with a loaded f250 are the best I have ever used! Pulls heavy trailers accross the fields great!
Fantastic review , friend. I don’t even own a truck but enjoyed the video and info.
I run Grabber APTs on my Nissan Frontier - they're a perfect balance of a road tire and an all-terrain tire. Really happy with them.
So thankful you have a video on trucks! I need a new set for my 8.1 Silverado 👍
Glad to help
30 min bore fest would have been good!
Best tire test I have ever seen!
Thank you!
Good info, as always. But make sure you check your (state) goverment's rules and regulations for tyre sizing limits, if they have them.
For example, in Australia, in Queensland, you can perform a lift of 50mm max, without an engineer's certificate (as long as the vehicle has Stability control) plus 25mm on the tyre, but in NSW that number decreases to 15mm.
Good information, thank you!
No offense and I know we have our own problems but thank goodness I live in the USA!
What have we learned? The mid-grade APT and AT/X are the best all-around values is you do anything aside from highway driving.
best truck tire review I've ever seen. TR should do this every other year or so...
The bigger tyres are changing your gear ratios, basically meaning there's less force from the motor reaching the ground. If youre putting on significantly larger diameter tyres you really need to adjust your gear ratios to match.
Daniel I some of these newer trucks may not need gear swaps. 2017+ F-150 trucks have a 10 speed and the ratios are very close. 1st gear is 4.69:1 and second gear is 2.98:1. Multiply that ratio into the axle which in most of the trucks with 4x4 it’s 3.55:1. That’s a ton of gearing to get the truck rolling.
Nice drone work!
Come up to BC and do some testing on our wet logging roads!
Cool video, well produced and explained. This channel deserves more subs!
Much appreciated!
The nissan is the star of the whole video. Proud nissan xterra owner
From watching your videos, I have realized 2 things
1. you need 3 tires for your truck, a highway tire for great ride, braking, handling, quiet. less vibration like the new
Continental TerrainContact HT for most of the time on the pavement, then get your jack and wheel wrench to put on
General Grabber X3 for going off the pavement, For Winter get your jack and wheel wrench again to put on
Continental VikingContact 7
I know you haven't did a video on the Conti's yet, as they are new to the market, waiting patiently for you to do them
Maybe the Continental VikingContact 7 this fall coming into snow tire season
I have my notifications on waiting for these
2. You have a wicked set of arms and body for a guy who drives cars, that's better than guys who do workout videos
You should do a workout video 👍
Depending on your location, I'm really impressed with the HTS60, there's a snow video coming this winter and it does really well too!
@@tyrereviews I live in Ontario, Canada, what about ice and hard packed snow that's same as ice, also a stop signs where the vehicles brake, is same as water on ice everybody that lives in a area that drops below freezing, will get those conditions
Snow is easy, if there was no ice, i wouldn't even swap them
put it up against the continental vikingcontact 7 for fun
Just my opinion, but ht tires in winter on ice is the same as trying to go in the mud with them
I could listen to that exhaust tone all day long!
It's a modified exhaust, it sounded so sick!
I see the raptor was falling apart in the front end
Lol
Cool test, but you broke two vehicles during the test? That Ford must be a joke. My 1996 Toyota 4Runner has been sacked through mud bogs and put away sopping wet over a hundred times througout the past 20 years and has never broken. The thing is at 350,000 miles and I still bag on it in the mud like twice a month. Never quits.
I regret putting H/T Bridgestone Alenza Plus on my Jeep Liberty. Althoug the best road tire I've ever used...it simply sucked in light snow/ice or gravel roads. It's a solid feeling tire but I could not even back out of my drive when it snowed 8 inches thick heavy snow and I had put in 4x4! I need to get A/T tires soon!
The HTS60 is weirdly good in the snow
Excellent information, presentation, commentary and driving skills. You’re the “man”.
My next set of tyres will be...GENERAL!!👍👍
Amazing work! These reviews just keep getting better.
Is there a possibility you could test budget summer performance tires like the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 to mainstream ones like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and Continental Extreme Contact Sport?
Thanks for the excellent videos!
They're American only market tyres, but I am super excited to try and get the test done!
we're all here to watch "boring" 30 minute tyre bore fests :-)
I recently changed my Tacoma AT tires to an HT since my truck rarely see’s dirt. Honestly, my truck breaks better, handled better and faster. All saves me gas! The only downside for me is they don’t look as good as the AT.
I have 2014 crewmax tundra , 5.7 an it came with 33-12.5-20 m/t an ill tell you doing donuts in the local 4×4 area in the mud is awesome, but it dose spin out on pavement in the the rain , what people tend to do here is swap m/ts ,in the summer for good aggressive a/t , then back to mt in winter . I have toyo open country's m/t an there best tire ive ever had .
Bloody love this video, well done! So thorough 👍
Thank you tyre bro :)
“It turns out sized does matter”
This is how we remember the content we Learn 😂
I've had Grabber A/T X's on my Dodge ram 1500 quad cab for 18months now here in Ohio. Quiet, good winter traction, great gravel and mild off road. Like them alot. Truck used for hauling firewood, mulch and a travel trailor, not my everyday driver as gas mileage isn't great ( not entirely the tires fault ). I would buy them again. Traction in heavy rain and wet roads is my only complait but it's to be expected for an A/T tire.
Thanks for sharing :) If you get the time, it would be great if you could leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com !
Tires, Yada, Yada, Yada.... But that Ford 6.2 V8 soundtrack, there's something to get excited about!
I will never bore of that truck
I’m a rig welder works pipeline in Texas and New Mexico and Oklahoma
I spent about 80 % hwy and 20% offroad and I’ve owned muds, hwy , and all terrains …
For my line of work and lifestyle the best tire ive owned is the general atx!!! 50-60 k on them every time.. rotate every oil chage witch in my truck it’s every 10k miles.
Amazing effort, appreciated
Excellent testing methods! Awesome video. I think this can speak to all manufacturers within their tire spectrum. 🤩🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you!
That Nissan Frontier is no joke.
Well done! Very detail on every aspect! Great video!
That was awesome. Tires testing well done.
Glad you liked it!
A lot of work was put in. But man, how much fun was it? Tracking a v8 Raptor in different services looks a lot of fun.
All the fun, it's a dream truck of mine!
I use HT tires on my Mercedes ML, they work great. I know Cayenne guys love them with 3-4x wear than OE style SUV tires.
What a great review! I have raced off road and the road to off road information is invaluable
I'd love to race offroad!
as always...more work than people realize. thanks for your work
These one was a lot of work, but lots of fun!
The one thing that wasn't tested and is the death knell of Mud Tires is snow. Mud tires, with literally zero siping are terrible in snow. And aggressive all terrains with a lot of siping like the KO2 are almost as good as snow tires in snow.
That's the plan for a future video!
The Ford 4x4 shift on the fly will go bang if it wasn’t fully engaged yet before letting the tires slip.
I dont have a truck like that, but I can apreciate the effort for making this review, good job! Maybe you will consider also a test for SUVs, I would like to find out what are the best tyres if you want to take the car for some light off roading from time to time. Do all season tyres work better off-road than normal summer tyres, is it to much of a compromise etc. Greetings from Romania!
Great suggestion!
Would have love to have seen a snow test for those of us in the north
Working on it :)
I had some General Grabber AT on my Jeep some years ago. They where great new, but they wore out real fast. The became intolerably loud and started tramlining worse than an old BMW with wide tires and the wrong ET. (Jeep was pretty much new original components with no lift or such in drivetrain, put a lot of money in it)
Gotta rotate them regularly. I have K02s and they are still amazing on and off road
Reviewing you videos, I really enjoy them. Do you realise you have the best job any guy can wish?
I'm super lucky, this test was one of the best :D
@@tyrereviews I bet it is. If you ever want to make a video of testing tires in gangfull Sinaloa México, you are welcomed. Full of road pots, there must be a better tire for this, isn’t it?
I would dream of off-roading in the UK- never too far from civilisation, very few blackspots for mobiles, no bull dust, or dust in general - no intense heat, no lack of water, at most the hardest terrain will be mud and some crags/rocks - I am comparing with Australia of course! LOLLZZZ
We dream of Australia!
I haven't been true off roading in years, not counting dirt road shortcuts I use from time to time - But this was genuinely interesting to watch. My favorite part? MUDDING! :-)
Mud, the vehicle destroyer!
This was good as far as it went, but no comparison in the rain, and no comparison in the snow. Here in Salt Lake City, these are two areas where the proper tires can save your life even if you are not driving hard on either road or trail.
Awesome job, how about towing? Need to know about sidewall strength on the generals. Thanks again!
Pretty damn well done comparison, look forward to seeing more from this channel.
Thank you :)
Hey you mentioned Moab! Only a few hours away from where I live. :) And yes, I too recommend mud terrain for that type of driving there.
Great video as usual!
Lucky guy, I'd love to live near MOAB!
I recently had a grabber blow a sidewall out. never touch them ever again.
I've had blowouts with Kuhmo, Toyo, BFG, and Goodyear. A blowout from a company doesn't mean they're junk.
@@phtevenmolz5030 when the sidewall gets a little scratch, then that blows out, that's a weak sidewall. not all tires are created equal.
breathe and squeeze "a little scratch" yeah, I highly doubt it was something small. You just want to shit on something you have no idea about.
I've had a kevlar MTR blow out. The strongest sidewalls on the market must have been junk, huh?
@@phtevenmolz5030 lol yeah was probably offroading pre hard to rip it open
Some off-road testing with Hankook will be interesting
Great vid. Another updated review on general tyres for the UK Market would be great please. GT plus vs grabbers more mud orientated tyres maybe.
Great video as always. Just bought a 2019 Bi-Turbo Ford Ranger Wildtrak too. You should do a video on the different manufacturers and their SUV/Pickup tyre offerings similar to the summer tyres shootout. Unlike summer tyers I absolutely have no idea when it comes to SUV/pickup/offroad tyres and I suspect a lot of people don't as well.
I'm not sure Ford would lend me the cars, but it can't hurt to ask! ARe you in the UK market, or is the Ranger US available too?
@@tyrereviews Australia market and Philippines market actually. I have a Focus RS in Aus and the Ranger Wildtrak is actually my sister's in the Philippines. She needed a pickup for work since she works in the construction industry and since she's not that knowledgeable on cars I test drove a bunch and I picked one for her. She also loves trekking and travels off-road locations because of it. Trouble is since I don't know anything about SUV/All terrain tyres, I wouldn't know what brand or model to recommend once they need replacing as I have no idea about them. Oh and I do believe the US just started selling the T6 Ranger this year but they only offer the 2.3l Petrol Ecoboost engine whereas Australia and everywhere else gets the diesel turbo engines.
@@pr0jectSkyneT the Ranger Raptor here (UK) just gets a weak 2 litre diesel engine :(
kudos for the thorough review. I susbscribed just to say thank you for the proper quality of this video.
Great effort!!id like the way you drift
Thanks ✌️
I guess it’s all about balance of your usage , I wonder how the hts grip resistance is in real world a I appreciate what your saying put yours is a perfect flat surface, go off camping in the back roads you have a very uneven up and down mixes surface
Yee haaa i luuurvvvv this tire review more than my sister, cant wait to show my brother/cousin it round d the camp fire and the trailer park tonight
😂
Since I drive my LC200 90% on road and 10% offroad, I had gone Yokohama AT for years now with no worries at all even in heavy beach sands ✌😁
97octane
I have the same tires, and they are really getting noisy. Still have some miles left on them, so I will turn up the radio.
10% drop in fuel efficiency as you move from HT... that's very informative
I wonder if it was the weight that cost the 10 percent drop.