''They're not sure if SHE will be happy, safe, or whatnot....so: no HE, because HE is expected to take care of himself....SHE can't make decisions about her own happiness.
The rest of the verse in the Noble Quran 4/23: But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful...... (if this guy in the video claims to be Muslim but he rejects this verse, then he is out of the fold of Islam!)
Why limit yourself to your cousins? These young people need to get out and explore all aspects of life. This should.become a life long habit in fact. Explore and meet people from differing backgrounds. I mean really, life is so short. One must not limit oneself.
Incest is ignorant pride that eventually resolves to degeneration and extinction. The elderly doctor using the deceptive and harmful statistics so cynically should have his qualifications reassessed/removed by the BMA IMO.
so basically the second cousin here is a buffer zone eh? they emphasised 60 times that dont marry your first cousin but marrying your thrid or fourth is fine... wtf happened to second cousin?
i just watched all the opening statements, and i have to say the guy arguing for incest is using a lot of logical fallacies. He is ereicting a strawman when he says that the other speaker meant that 33% of the children would be sick. The other guy NEVER SAID THAT. There is no inconsistency between the different numbers. When i say "1% of sheep in australia are black sheep" and "33% of black sheeps on the planet are in australia", both statements can be true at the same time.
I don't have any doubts, all I am saying is that the beauty of the Quran is that when disbelievers think they are "attacking it" and "weakening Islam", they are actually only confirming the Truth of this religion. 9/32: They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it..... Islam is the only acceptable religion for ALLAH, and it will dominate all other religions/ideologies, that is a promise of ALLAH.
Slaves in the Qur'an & the bible are not even close to being the same, learn the difference or I will be more than happy to break it down for you. As for the water, look to an example like the Atlantic Ocean & The Mediterranean Sea, when the sea reaches the Gibraltar it doesn't go through the barrier, etc. No one said the Qur'an was a scientific book, people say it contains sciences is all...and that example doesn't make people go "A-Ha! I'm going to Be one now!" lol
You know what the beauty of the Quran is? Disbelievers like yourself only confirm how much Truth this book contains. Let me give you an example: "26/137 This is but a fable of the men of old"... another example: "68/15 That, when Our revelations are recited unto him, he saith: Mere fables of the men of old.".... "83/13: Who, when thou readest unto him Our revelations, saith: (Mere) fables of the men of old."............ Thank you for proving to me that Islam is the only True religion of GOD.
Well, you just did the same thing as the other guy, prove to me how much Truth the Quran contains. You are basically saying "the majority voted that way so they must be right".... lets check GOD's Words in the Noble Quran: 6/116 And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah’s path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie.
The Lord of the Heavens and the Earth decides whom you can marry and He is the only one who defines what "Incest" is. 4/23: Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in.
Yeh because only YOUR religion is right and only YOUR book is right and only YOUR culturally inherited ideas are right. I don't hate religion but I hate those who attempt to impose it on others.
Thank you for this intelligent presentation.
''They're not sure if SHE will be happy, safe, or whatnot....so: no HE, because HE is expected to take care of himself....SHE can't make decisions about her own happiness.
That guy was just quoting verses to show what is and what isn't, he wasn't using "circular" anything lol
nice and informative debate
I love these
especially the mediator. I love how he critiques all sides.
The rest of the verse in the Noble Quran 4/23: But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful...... (if this guy in the video claims to be Muslim but he rejects this verse, then he is out of the fold of Islam!)
Nice topic. Good debate
Why limit yourself to your cousins?
These young people need to get out and explore all aspects of life. This should.become a life long habit in fact. Explore and meet people from differing backgrounds.
I mean really, life is so short. One must not limit oneself.
Incest is ignorant pride that eventually resolves to degeneration and extinction.
The elderly doctor using the deceptive and harmful statistics so cynically should have his qualifications reassessed/removed by the BMA IMO.
no wonder they're so hot headed
Did he say that there are 5.8 billion people on the Earth at 45:35 ??
most boring unproductive debate
so basically the second cousin here is a buffer zone eh? they emphasised 60 times that dont marry your first cousin but marrying your thrid or fourth is fine... wtf happened to second cousin?
why the hell we need to do this?
i just watched all the opening statements, and i have to say the guy arguing for incest is using a lot of logical fallacies.
He is ereicting a strawman when he says that the other speaker meant that 33% of the children would be sick. The other guy NEVER SAID THAT. There is no inconsistency between the different numbers. When i say "1% of sheep in australia are black sheep" and "33% of black sheeps on the planet are in australia", both statements can be true at the same time.
Yeah - just think. If people didn't impose their religion on others, we could still have slavery.
I don't have any doubts, all I am saying is that the beauty of the Quran is that when disbelievers think they are "attacking it" and "weakening Islam", they are actually only confirming the Truth of this religion. 9/32: They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it..... Islam is the only acceptable religion for ALLAH, and it will dominate all other religions/ideologies, that is a promise of ALLAH.
Slaves in the Qur'an & the bible are not even close to being the same, learn the difference or I will be more than happy to break it down for you.
As for the water, look to an example like the Atlantic Ocean & The Mediterranean Sea, when the sea reaches the Gibraltar it doesn't go through the barrier, etc.
No one said the Qur'an was a scientific book, people say it contains sciences is all...and that example doesn't make people go "A-Ha! I'm going to Be one now!" lol
You know what the beauty of the Quran is? Disbelievers like yourself only confirm how much Truth this book contains. Let me give you an example: "26/137 This is but a fable of the men of old"... another example: "68/15 That, when Our revelations are recited unto him, he saith: Mere fables of the men of old.".... "83/13: Who, when thou readest unto him Our revelations, saith: (Mere) fables of the men of old."............ Thank you for proving to me that Islam is the only True religion of GOD.
very weak debaters on both sides
Well, you just did the same thing as the other guy, prove to me how much Truth the Quran contains. You are basically saying "the majority voted that way so they must be right".... lets check GOD's Words in the Noble Quran: 6/116 And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah’s path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie.
The Lord of the Heavens and the Earth decides whom you can marry and He is the only one who defines what "Incest" is. 4/23: Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in.
god schmod
Yeh because only YOUR religion is right and only YOUR book is right and only YOUR culturally inherited ideas are right.
I don't hate religion but I hate those who attempt to impose it on others.
....and also the wifes of your enemy you have captured in a battle after killing their husbands (4/23).
islam is disgusting.