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Ludwig Invitational Losers Finals - Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) Vs. Leffen (Fox) SSBM Melee Tournament
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2022
- This Smash Bros Tournament Losers Finals Top 8 match was streamed live on: / ludwigahgren
LSI The Ludwig Smash Invitational is a Super Smash Bros Tournament in Las Vegas, Nevada. This Smash Bros. Tournament Took place 10/21 - 10/23 2022.
This Super Smash Bros Melee Tournament Bracket features top talent! The best Smash Melee Tournament players from around the world attended this Super Smash Bros. Melee Tournament.
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New ruleset proposal: leffen isn't allowed to speak or tweet for 24 hours after losing in tourney.
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This right here
Leffen isn't allowed to speak period would be even better
Enter the clip of a better society
*leffen isn't allowed
easily one of the shittiest people in the smash community that still somehow has a platform
Leffen laser camping into complaining true combo
Like yeah dudes playing the best grounded character in the game and complains that someone isn't playing to where he has the obvious advantage. Leffens such a dork
Leffen losing into posting angry tweets is the most guaranteed combo in the game. Works at any percent, against every character, and anywhere on stage. It's like wobbling.
Lmao
Wouldn't you? If not then you obviously haven't been upthrow rested ever
@@noirlavender6409 maybe but i would say going on the stream right after ya lost saying we need to change the rules is pretty unsporrsman like wouldn't you
Leffen has finally realised his dream of becoming a giant pile of breathing living salt.
I dont think he just realized that, hes alwways been that
25:08 Good games, lame tournament.
@@AlexDuWaldt didnt even see him say that what an asshole
@@AlexDuWaldt I agree that Leffen's being a piss baby, but I can only hear 'nice tournament'. Wouldn't put a low jab like that past him, though.
This made me laugh hard lmao
The last time Hungrybox beat him was at Smash 'N' Splash 2019. It's been 3 years since Hungrybox beat Leffen and AS SOON as he wins it's back to complaining.
This shows the world is healing lmao
@@jomacoles huh, I never thought of it that way
"There's no character that can time out puff"
AMSA: "hold my eggs"
Ironically, that time out was pretty hype xD aMSa using his egg shield to dodge HBox etc. aMSa played insanely well and there's nothing wrong with timing out when you had the lead and know it's a last minute win condition.
@@l.n.3372 it's also not something that happens super often, which makes it fine occasionally
@@yuanwang9324
I think time outs get bad reputation cuz Melee Jigglypuff and Sonic too. But I've seen plenty of matches in Ultimate where the game is intense but it takes 2 min for anybody to take a single stock, and they simply run outta time in the final minutes
Hold my tier list
@@l.n.3372 I feel like the time limit should be way lower, like maybe around 4-5 minutes. In other fighting games, the timer has real pressure in a reasonable number of games. Meanwhile most Melee games are so fast that the timer doesn't matter or the game is going to time because the match is being super campy.
Leffen threatening to quit is hilarious. The scene would be so much less toxic without him
Please... I really really don't want him to quit. I'm a strive player. And it would make me really happy if he'd get the fuck out of my game and refocused on yours instead.
please no I need my bitch baby Leffen. The petty pretty boy is a niche he fills so well.
"Quote from man stabbed:
What are you gonna do, stab me?"
Is it even a considered threat?? He’s just a ranting child that gets angry when you play like bitch and still lose
Hbox after losing to Leffen for 3 years: Alright GGs, I’ll get better
Leffen after losing to Hbox once: He abused the ruleset reeeeeeeeeeeee
Ludwig owning leffen by saying you cant be saying this right after a loss
Can we talk about how consistent leffens’s combos are? He hits the lose->complain confirm every time, I’ve never seen him mess that one up
You had me in the first half ngl XD
IBDW consistently beat hbox for like a year because he knows how to adapt. Literal skill issue. Common L leffen
Dude complains that Hbox is using an unbeatable strat but Hbox is beatable, pretty frequently. Leffen is such a baby
@@slaebae3434 Funny thing about leffen complaining that hbox is using "unbeatable" strats is that this is the first win in 3 years hbox got over leffen
@@yuanwang9324 It seems like these ppl havent seen melee in the last 3 years
Leffen has been destroying hbox recently
@@wack9929 clearly
'I won't be competing in Melee if there's no stalling rules'
Honestly? Big W for the whole smash scene right there.
If leffen is mad i'm a little happier
you and me both friend
fax. anyone vouching for leffen as a human being a walking L too.
@@CrashForSmash He's a soyboy and draws in the furious soyboy keyboard warriors. This lightweight Swede gets bodied by M2k IRL before M2k started getting jacked again.
yessirrrrrrrr
Lmao
Love how they included the entire leffen rant after the games
Because enjoying seeing Leffen cry is part of the experience. Watching hbox lol in real time was the perfect finishing touch.
Leffen: *on the verge of crying* "Puff shouldn't be allowed to jump, it's cheating!"
Phil: "Air time? You don't want Puff to jump?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Phil was the only one who just wasn't having it on any level lol, he looked so disgusted
I AM NOT CRAZY!..... I am not crazy, I KNOW he took advantage of the rules, I just couldnt prove it. He covered his tracks. He got those idiots on the couch to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That crab! Are you telling me someone just HAPPENS to throw a crab at him like that? No! He orchestrated it! Juan! He scared Jmook with his popoff! And I unblocked him on Twitter, and I shouldn't have. Even tried to be chummy with him online! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll NEVER change. Ever since 09, always the same! Couldn't keep him hands out of Mango's AMA. But not our Hungrybox! Couldn't be our precious Hungrybox! Popping off on them blind! And HE gets to be a top Melee competitor? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! ....And you, you have to stop him, you
I love this so much 😂
Hahahahaha
He defecated while resting
Underrated show
Include me in the screenshot when this gets posted to okbuddychicanery
Ludwig is an awesome host. He’s aware enough to know how much of a wiener Leffen is being on camera and attempts to save him from himself twice and he does so without embarrassing him or blatantly telling him. ❤
I think it would be ok if they would’ve just said that he’s being salty and call it a day.
25:08 Good games, lame tournament.
@@AlexDuWaldt I had to relisten to it when you pointed that out but pretty sure he said "nice" tournament.
@@WhiteLightnin38 Yea thats what I heard yesterday too I think he's just saying that dismissively cause he wants to dip lol
@@KevinOnEarth_ Literally what point are you trying to make
Hungrybox decided to defeat Leff's Fox TWICE in FD.
And Leffen was MALDING. Lmao
He complained about hbox platform camping him on FD lmao
@@IHarleyWin he even wants to put an air limit, like wtf, let's put a ground limit for fox
@@biledox5576LOL. No no no. If we are going to implement something like that it has to be universal.
Leffen spends the entire game shooting lasers, even when he's down 2 stocks, then goes on to complain about how campy his opponent was.
If his chat isn't filled with clown emojis for the next month, there is no justice in Melee.
unfortunately leffen has vocal fans that think he's a great person
It won't be because he bans anyone who makes fun of him.
@@yuanwang9324 his fanbase is a genuine example of how ignorance follows ignorance, like it’s insane how any of them refuse to logically think about how toxic his demeanor is
@@Chrillin___ anyone who challenges his beliefs on anything or opposes anything he has to say is banned and seen as a joke publicly by the chat
It's been months since Hbox has won against Leffen and the moment leff loses it, he cries about it, in the main stream event at youtube. And, top of the cake, this guy goes at twitter with the quit threat 'cause of "bad rulesets". Leffen's ego goes beyond reality. The whole tournament has to face Hbox. And... everyone has had their time (even AMSA gave HBOX his own medicine with the hypest time-out ever, at TBH10, WITH YOSHI). Willy if you read this, you need another plan, just as we all do.
That stream was some of the best melee / smash content I've witnessed to date. 2012 vibes, everyone knows everyone, salt and good vibes all around.
“Willy” 😂
Hax was right
@@TheMostSlyFox Sure and leffen deserves to get absolutely shat on for it, which he is. Leffen L
@@Flip-a-dip-dip Nah fr "Willy" is crazy 😂he wild for that
They didnt have to include leffens rant but they did 💀
and im so glad they did lmaooooo
It also helps to not know who won judging by the video length. But I guess everyone who entered in this video knows the result anyways lol.
@@vivalosgameplays5383 facts, 80% of viewers are people who watched the set live and came to the vod to discuss leffen's meltdown
just to show what a crybaby he really is. #makeleffenquitsmash
"He only beat me because I'm so good" -Leffen probably
Leffens ego is so obviously out of this world, and Hax was the crazy one? Lol cmon dude. Enjoy the flight home fool
"I wont be competing in melee if theres no stalling rules" okay then leave we dont want you anyway lmao
Leffen losing? nice
Tqm Derky
Contra Hbox le da un toque especial
The true nature of Leffen came out after this set. Pure John's coming from him so sad to see. He killed the Grand Finals vibes with his rant.
Yo if Leffen did quit that would be a huge W for the melee scene.
it would be a MASSIVE W
Huge L for guilty gear scene though ;-;
@@mycenaeangal9312 who cares about guilty gear tho
@@scythea428 who cares about smash tho
@@Cescc911 I dunno, probably the 77 thousand people that watched this video and the 250+K people that watched big house
I wonder if Leffen supports a dashdance or a laser limit. Or does he only want to nerf characters he doesn't play?
he literally said he's down for a laser limit?? I don't even particularly agree with him but come on man
@@Barosepha888 Oh excuse me for not being on Twitter like all the kids.
Being stupid in all directions isn't exactly better for him. Maybe he should try a different game.
@@snex000 he said it in this video????? But don't let me get in the way of your nuanceless blind disdain for people dude. Have your fun ig
@@Barosepha888 Bruh wtf are you talking about? It's a video of hbox beating him.
@@snex000 the leffen rant is at the end
I love how he loses, cries and johns, and then everybody basically tells him he's a salty loser. Love to see it
Peak Leffen salt, haven't seen this shit in a while, and then doing the 7 year old "if you don't change the rules I won't play with you" rant. I hope he does quit, be good to finally be rid of him so we can focus on the rest of the top competitors that have been grinding like crazy and making Melee the most interesting it's been in the longest time.
^
Facts. I’m not like super knowledgeable with Melee but I’ve been watching tournaments for a few years and I’ve always had the opinion that Leffen was just leaching on the community being an ass and getting away with it just because he’s good.
He told us he’s not even salty though
"But he's changed" lmao
"I'm not owned! I'm not owned" I continue to insist as I slowly transform into a corn cob.
24:04 "There's no character that can time out puff." aMSa timed out Hugrybox like 2 weeks ago what are you talking about?
Fox can time out puff easily. Leffen saying puff can time everybody out because rest exists is just like saying fox can time puff out because up throw-up air, or up smash exist. Leffen is in fact a literal baby in both mental and emotional capacity and that will never change.
remember, this set made leffen quit melee for THE ENTIRE 2023
I remember
Excellent
effen I think you dropped this L
nice
HAHAHAHA 😂
Nahhhh broooo LMAOO💀
holy W
effen hiarious comment here
23:18 that face is a perfect representation of how seriously people should take leffen
This made me chuckle very load in the middle of class. So thank you but also I hate you lol
"Why am I forced to approach when down two stocks?"
- Leffen
Please Leffen follow through with your threat and quit so you can go be disliked by other fgc scenes
Can't he just speedrun or something single player like that.
@@malacara1335 if he speedruns he won't be able to blame other people for his short comings tho. That would be a foreign concept for (L)effen
@@mrhuman5092 nah he will complain about speedrun exploits that are hard to do and be like “this stuff should be more honest”
@@mrhuman5092 leffen would probably cheat in speed running because he feels entitled to the records and that his skills are "good", it's just the luck's fault
@@mrhuman5092 He'll blame the developers of the game then
Ban Leffen's ass. What an entitled piece of work after all the hurt and suffering he's put so many people through- literally worked to destroy HBox's career, and ruined Zer0's on a whim.
Massive respect to HGod's attitude and W.
So Leffen gets 3-1'd and immediately goes to the commentary booth to cry about the need for "air-time ruling" only for hbox to be completely run over by zain 10m later.
Leffen's not a clown at this point, he's the entire circus. Take the L and go home. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Really wish you hadn't included Grand Final spoiler's in this comment, man 😑
@@eclipse7217 damn dude im so sorry that mustve hurt rip
Leffen can't not embarrass himself.
Awe man, spoiler alert. I hadn't watched grands.
@@TheBeggies95 Not looking at comments until you've finished the set you're watching is fair enough. But most people are hardly going to come back here and check comments about this set after they've watched Grands, so I wouldn't make a comment that spoils future matches in the tourney.
It's one thing if the matches are old, but these ones hadn't even finished releasing here on RUclips yet
22:00 Then QUIT, I promise you we don't care as much as you think we do.
Literally. He's been missing from so many tourneys this year and nothing of value has been lost.
Love that Joshman and Lud were in a way sticking up for hbox
Honestly everyone was. Phil and Brandon were pretty confused at a lot of his arguments.
@@CalebBlack phills face said it all bro
Leffen really complaining about puff jumping on FD while laser camping the entire time is pure gold. Grow up, quit the game. Hbox has been enhancing the melee scene for such a long time as competitors learn to adapt against him. You can tell we don’t need leffen just by seeing the massive growth of melee in the past year.
Hbox is inevitable. He's just the guy everyone hates because he uses a character that is anti melee meta. Props to Clutchvox for taking 2nd. Leff have no business being this far as he got the tournament seeding and placement handed over to him, yet he still cries
Tbf there's plenty of reasons not to like HBOX. He had a lot of problems in his past and he's got a very large, over the top personality on top of a fairly big ego. Personally I feel like HBOX has come a long way, far from perfect but he's a better person than he was before. I can still recognize why people don't like him but I do think a lot of the hate for him and his character is blown way out of proportion
@@Mikehy.mp3 ight cool atleast he didn’t make someone almost off themself
@@Mikehy.mp3 lol name 3 reasons, real reasons
Thanosbox
@@kotasake I quite literally did in my initial comment lol.
it's actually insane how leffen hasn't improved his attitude over the past 7 or 8 years. he claims he's improving, but he clearly isn't
Wdym? He's improving clearly. His johns game is peak rn.
22:45 Hbox reacting to Leffen's temper tantrum
The best moment in the tournament
With the Jigglypuff call in the background before the camera turns to Hbox
Best moment Id be dying of laughter listening in
Brooo Leffen seriously just needs to take the L. He got outplayed, period.
Leffen try not to embarrass yourself challenge
* IMPOSSIBLE *
Leffen: I'm not even salty
Commentator couch: 🤨😏🤔🧐
Bro leffen is turning into lowtiergod
Leffen was always lowtiergod except actually good
Get that air banned
he's always been a diet-LTD with his constant johnning and just generally being a bad person.
never been much of an hbox fan but cannot believe i've found someone to root against harder
Good.
LOL, right? Same feeling I get when hbox plays ibdw.
@@KevinOnEarth_ lol, not at all my friend. Whenever Hbox, leffen or ibdw play each other, I always hope that BOTH players will somehow lose.
Leffen wants to fight, except for the 10 minutes of laser camping. It's cool when he does it.
Leffen's outburst was such an embarrassment. So unfortunate that this was likely thousands of people's first impression of professional melee.
I haven’t checked into professional Melee in a hot minute. I did not get good vibes from this tournament/invitational/whatever. Between Leffen and Mango commentating on grand finals, I left not feeling like I missed much of anything since the last time I watched top melee
@@Andiamo26 ultimate on the other hand
22:43 the faint puff taunt 😭
I usually don't watch Melee tournament, but after watching the last few sets of this one I feel like I missed so much, I need to watch more of it ! It's such a cool game honestly
Melee is hype
Bro watch mang0 v slug and mang0 v IBDW from this tourney they were both hype as fuck
After watching this set, fox needs a laser limit. It's killing the game, and I'll quit if its not implemented.
Ludwig is the definition of loyalty. We're lucky to have someone become so successful and the endorse scene.
I love how Leffen is uber laser camping before Hbox is ledge camping. Especially on FD. Then he salt tweets. I don’t get it man. He is literally known as the passive fox
Lmao hbox has 3 stocks has zero reason to approach and leffen just starts malding.
HAAHAH ikr wtf he except lmaoo
the fact hbox was listening on his phone was absolutely hilarious
"Guys my opponent isn't approaching me, but I'm playing fox. Is there a glitch in the game, can someone review?"
Leffen was quiet the second hbox pulled up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 literally a laughing stock
Bruh it's 2022, If leffen quits it doesn't matter cause there are better players to watch
He’s not trying to nerf stalling, he’s trying to nerf Hbox lol
Exactly
After all the chaos Leffen has caused, I can't believe people still welcome him in the smash community. Its one of the reasons why I don't take this community seriously anymore.
Seriously…. They’ll bitch and complain about hbox popping off because it’s “unsportsmanlike” but they’ll praise the toilet leffen shits in after he’s made salty comments or harassed someone on twitter. It’s fucking mind boggling
that and the community licking mango's pole every chance they get
I am still in deep disbelief after everything leffen did, especially the ZeRo Case, this fraudy and dangerous liar is still allowed to play
They were acting like Hax was crazy but he was right all along! Leffen is just too toxic he should be banned but for some odd reason this community keeps jerking off to him, I just don't understand.
Whats the ZeRo case?
Leffen is a shitter, but he does not deserve to be banned and especially not over the Zero situation 💀
@@AL-lh2ht IIRC he was the one (along with Milk Tea?) who made up and pushed false information about Zero being a pedo, which ruined his career and almost led Zero to offing himself.
@@NatePhan Zero literally did message an underage girl sexually though
For as much as I hate how this community puts up with Leffen, it's really heartwarming to see this entire comment section shitting on him.
"I will quit Melee if there's no stalling rules"
Good, the door is that way, let's see how long the Strive and Tekken players tolerate your whines
Hax might’ve made some crazy videos but he is so right about leffen 😂😂😂
15:17 - 15:35 for in game salt, 19:12 for irl salt
19:15 holy copium. You were literally laser camping him the whole set. Don't let the door hit u on the way out.
i mean, your idol is in the other side of the map camping, what should he do, run to puff and die? LOL
Lmfao he could hit him. Sounds like somebody lost some money last night
@@manuelgodinez3337 imagine
@@manuelgodinez3337 you don't need to approach when you have the lead. It's not like there's a speed advantage along with the easiest time killing puff out of the whole cast but go off King
@@manuelgodinez3337 uno reverse. what should puff do, run towards the fastest character in the game and engage in grounded footsies?
Sets over but there's 9 minutes left in the video. I know what's about to happen.
Lol Mad respect for how Lud destroyed Leffen here.
L: "Imma quit Melee if the rules don't change"
Chat: "Lmao, bye salt lord'
Leffen is just mad that he's bad at the game and HBox is better. Get your grind up and not your funny up
Leffen's argument completely failed when it was pointed out to him Hbox didn't even abuse rules this set. Juan played insanely well, he just can't accept it because my man is BPD
Have been a fan of Leff for a long time but unfollowed him on everything recently, this rant validates that.
Hbox is such a vibe listening to the rant with the stream on his phone, what a chad.
I'm not sure why anyone would admit that lmao
@@animalhouse8849 Why not? Can I not support who I want to?
honestly a little suprised you didn't unfollow him earlier, especially with his accusations of ZeRo being a p3d0. (well, not his but he corroborated them)
I don't usually root for hbox, but I always root against Leffen and goddamn am I happy with how this set went. Good shit hbox lol
Leffen is really crying after laser camping for two games in a row.
Oh this felt DAMN good.
I would understand Leffens complaints if he was trying to interact and hbox kept running away. But, that didn’t happen he sat in the corner down three stocks and laser camped expecting hbox to approach. You can’t complain about someone not interacting when you yourself don’t interact.
Especially in a play 2 win environment, why the hell are you expecting your enemy to throw on purpose? Just for you especially as well.
Leffen: Puff deserves an airtime limit
Also Leffen: 14:33
As soon as Leffen said “Can we change the rules?” They should’ve handed him a big blue cardboard L for him to hold.
"You don't want puff to be able to air camp? Like, jump?" lmfaooo
I thought Leffen was banned
He should be if the people who ran the scene were competent and fair
He should be.
That happened about 9 years ago...
@@Charmolution So we are going to ignore him spreading rumors about m2k that forced him to release an incredibly embarrassing video on himself and trying to mess with Hbox's reputation that has happened as soon as last year?
god we can only dream
Ellen Degeneres losing, love to see it.
I loved Leffen's work in Finding Dory.
Ludwig is so charismatic on the couch! Love to see him back in the smash community. His Mogul Moves Ad and Zain sponsor a few years back was legendary
Absolutely warms my heart to see a comment section full of people shitting on Leffen in Hbox's defense.
Leffen complaining for 10 minutes after that set prolonging the set even further. Idk what legacy he wants to leave but he's developing into a scrubqoute generator so I guess he's ready for full time FGC content 💀
These TO's should not listen to Leffen's complaining about rule sets. We have so many rules that cater to Leffen (and leffen only, theory)
Remember the time Leffen got to replay his winners set a full round of sets later because the damage ratio was set to .9?
@@Saltyoven that makes sense tho. Not ideal but completely reasonable.
@@fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf do you honestly think though anyone else would get the same treatment?
@@AL-lh2ht tbh yeah. even more so if they are a top player
Really Leffen, out of all of the timing, when Ludwig and thousands of audience who are new to smash watching you, you choose this time to John ?
16:50 Leffen the big baby.
Real question: why isn’t there a laser limit? Couldn’t Fox just evade and laser camp all game until time?
yea but they probably wont cuz if people watch u do that then theyll hate u
leffen has nothing to lose tho so he laser camps
Leffen has convinced me we need to bring back "no johns."
I love how different the comments are from the last time I've seen these two play to now. I still like seeing Puff destroy people but I understand why so many people find the slowness boring. But I also like watching Aklo's Link and he doesn't exactly grab stocks every 3 seconds.
Leffen would complain about the rules of Rock Paper Scissors because someone went double rock into scissors
Leffen is such a baby, always has been
And likely always will be.
I like how everyone slowly and slowly ignores Leffen and just talks about Hbox the entire time because they just don't want to talk to him
Silver hair dye leaking into leffens brain for to many years
Cody doesn’t seem to have leffen’s problem. Super petty complaining
If Cody complains for 10 minutes Leffen complains for 1 hour.
@@stayontrack to be fair all Cody asked about was if Hbox reached the ledge grab limit which is an existing rule. He didn't get on mic and start spouting bs about an 'air time limit'
@@stayontrack I'm not saying Cody isn't bad about it either, but Leffen takes it to a whole new level.
@@stayontrack the reverse pop off was a planned joke that hbox wasn't in on
Leffen giving us the gift of no longer playing melee would be great get his salty narcissist ass outta here lol. Now I'm against any stall rules it'd be an actual dub for the community.
Like, I get there are heels, and serious and salty competitors. But the personal toxicity that always comes from that guy is whack and it just doesn't ever have anything good that follows
The cut to Juan listening on his phone is hilarious