Frank Agius The Inventor Of Framon Was A Genius Locksmith And Machinist . I Have My Framon # 2 SInce 1994 And Still Going Strong . The Quality Is Amazing.
Cut keys on the express for a couple of jobs and it is amazing. Tried the framon 2 with a Schlage key for one of the same jobs Measured the original key and the cut key and the code key was a 100%accurate and the factory key wasn’t. Amazing!!
I regret not ordering a Framon 2 when I first heard about them a few years ago. I was told about them by someone who lost one out the back of their van and after picking it up out of the road it still worked like a charm. May have a purchase in my future. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
This is definitely the machine I'm going to buy for doing edge keys by code. The Framon #2 doesn't need firmware updates, and will probably never lose it's value. #lockboss
I love mechanical machines like this. They are super reliable and accurate. We all love new electronics, but the most reliable are machines are mechanical and lack all the bells and whistles. #lockboss
I have the Framon 2, and it is a very accurate machine. You do not need to calibrate it very often. If I could only have one code machine this is the one I would want. I think it takes a little longer to set up the first cut and change out blocks when changing manufacturers (Kwikset to Schlage, etc) than just inserting a different card into the HPC 1200 but you know if you make a Sargent or Best key with the Framon, it is going to work. #Lockboss
I have used a Framon 2 for years and have never been disappointed. They are Rock solid. A big plus is you can also cut Medeco keys as well. No cards to have to keep up with as well as with the HPC Blitz. Thanks for another great presentation.
Thanks, PJ!! I didn't realize by already owning one of these great machines made me a #LockBoss! I love mine!! I have to travel some really bad back roads to get to different jobs and I can ALWAYS count on my Framon2 to be spot on accurate!! It, in my opinion, is one of the best machines that any locksmith can own!!
Conner gets extra points for putting that in the "fricking" Bloopers, as he is now a super #lockboss We love PJ's "deer in the headlights" thought process...
It’s a great machine. My first code cutter machine. It’s easy to get lost with the graduations on the dial so have to learn to take your time but the accuracy is outstanding and your basically “calibrating” it each time you set up your first key. Framon also has one with digital readout if I remember right. Thanks for sharing. #lockboss
I got the Framon 2 last week after lots of research as my first code cutting machine. All the keys i've cut so far have been perfect, and its design and function speak to the tinkerer in me! #Lockboss
Great info for someone like me that doesn't have a code machine yet. What's the cherry on top is seeing all the shavings so it tells me you use this machine a lot. What I think might be even more important is that right now, my first ever topo chico is chilling in the fridge. #LOCKBOSS
This will be my next big purchase, been using 1200 for a long time and love it. The Framon is a machine I have always been interested in. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
I have a Framon 2 that I picked up used. It's missing some of the accessories but does exactly what I need it to. I like that machine; it's definitely a tough little thing and is pretty easy to calibrate and keep calibrated. The book with the key data has proven extremely useful as well. I think cutting a key on a Blitz is a bit faster, but the Framon 2 is more accurate. Thanks for the video! #Lockboss
It’s kind of neat seeing on this machine how you really have to dial in your measurements and seems like you definitely have to pay attention more than some other key cutters. #LockBoss
Great video, JP. Now, after watching you explain the strengthens, it makes sense why the Framon 2 is more precise. I also think the user also has more control the making repeatable cuts that are not standard such as a wider root. Sometimes a manual machine where they don't tell you to cut is better than a card. I would personally buy a Framon 2 if I had the money. #LockBoss
I've always been a bit intimidated by what I EXPECTED it to be like using the Framon 2. After seeing you use it now this #LockBoss is more EXCITED to get my hands on one to try it myself. This WILL be on my list of new machines. Thank You once again PJ for helping to share and explain our #LockBoss World.
This looks like an awesome machine. I love that you can see the actual measurements of the depth and spacing. I can see how some folks might not like the way that works, but to me, that's no kidding what's happening inside the lock, whereas relying on just the #X pin systems for each of the manufacturers is more like depending on some magic numbers. #lockboss
I have a Framon 2 arriving today -- out for delivery as we speak :) After shopping around, the value added by all the extra included accessories (DSD info, dial caliper, Genericode software, extra Medeco cutter, etc.) is excellent. But what really sold me was the responsiveness from Phil at Framon. These are real people that will help you figure it out. In my experience Framon products are well built and non-plastic and just seem to work. If you're in the market for a non-bells & whistles manual code machine, it's worth taking a look at the Framon 2. #Lockboss
100% agree with the wider root of cuts. Not only to help make sure the user didn't make any mistakes on spacing, but also to account for how many cheap knock-off companies there are now. Example: Kwikset, Defiant, Gatehouse, Brinks, etc., ALL use a Kwikset key blank....but their spacing isn't ANYWHERE close to being the same! 😂 This allows you to account for cheap manufacturing.
The Framon 2 is perfect for making different cut depths due to imperfect pins in the kits that are 97% thru 98% accurate prompting you to take on the adjustments down to the thousands respective to the pin measurements, even the HPC Blitz doesn't have it as explicitly. EPD - Pin Size = Framon2 Cut Depth.
Great video #LockBoss. I always wondered how these machines operated. i had heard many people rave about them. Really apprecaite the quick tutorial on how to operate this tool, Thanks, Oh and Conner thanks for the Bloopers!
I have always thought it was a great machine. I have never been able to use one because my boss had an HPC Blitz. Now that I started my own business and use a Foley Belsaw 200, witch I can do most anything you can do with a $3000 machine, I am glad to see someone else agrees with me. #lockboss.
I just have the book and it’s from the 80’s LOL still works great!!! #Lockboss your blocks are so shinny compared to mine😂 never tried making wider I like that!!!! You locked up in the bloopers man you saw me I was a nervous wreck LOL!!!
Awesome video PJ, I’ve wanted to learn more about this machine ever since I heard of it, especially since a lot of #lockboss folks love them; thanks for doing this!
Looks like a very well thought out and put together machine. If I'm ever in the market for a new machine I'll definitely give the Framon serious consideration. #Lockboss
For an auto shop that wants to also provide keys what machines on the market are suitable? do you maybe have a video that list maybe what someone would need to start up?
#Lockboss Thanks for a great video. This is a very interesting machine especially since it appears to work so well and it is at a bit of a budget price.
As always, a great video, PJ. I see the advantage of learning the spaces and depths, but...man... this #lockboss just really likes his NEW Blitz 1200 that I just bought from CLK!!
i have one, and i love it. i also have an HPC 1200 blitz and it is good too, and can be faster, but when i need to know the keys are perfect, framon 2 is the go-to machine and it's very easy to adjust too, which it never really needs anyway. i'll never sell mine. #lockboss
ok so this is in affect an #LOCKBOSS Miniaturized Milling machine . It is very similar in function to a 1940's era US NAVY SURPLUS WARREN & SWASSEY TURRET LATHE, that I used 30 years ago as a machinist. Great Job on the description too.
Can you do a side by side comparison againist the 1200. I've personally used the 1200 for over 20 years. I've got 3 of them. And when I get another van I will be shopping around for a new machine. Thanks... #LockBoss
Excellant tutorial as usual from the original #Lockboss. What is the second cutting wheel used on? If you compare the keys and manufactures found in the Framon book to the number of code cards that HPC has for the 1200 who has more? JMJ Locksmith Groton, MA
The second included cutter is for Medeco. PJ didn't highlight this in his video, but the Framon 2's cutter also has a left and right angled rotation to cut Medeco keys. This comes standard on the machine. I'm not sure which has more codes, but the included Genericode software allows you to print out your own code cards for the HPC Blitz. Hope that helps. #Lockboss
Genetic true code machine with geneticode? Amazing i went to framon site during the live yesterday and it looked very good. This longevity is a testament to the good engineering. I wished you could do an extended take with angles cut keys ala medeco but i assume it's 'just' a different jaw that tilt the key. #Lockboss
I have heard amazing stories about accidents that happen to these machines, and they cut perfect keys (without needing to be calibrated). I have a 1200cmb, i have been curious about these for some time, i hope to get a chance to demo one sometime and see for myself. I have a terrible memory, so the 1200 may be better suited for me, but i may surprise myself? #lockboss
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Frank Agius The Inventor Of Framon Was A Genius Locksmith And Machinist . I Have My Framon # 2 SInce 1994 And Still Going Strong . The Quality Is Amazing.
My new framon 2 and express coming in today. Been a HPC man for 25 years ready for the change. #lockboss
Cut keys on the express for a couple of jobs and it is amazing. Tried the framon 2 with a Schlage key for one of the same jobs Measured the original key and the cut key and the code key was a 100%accurate and the factory key wasn’t. Amazing!!
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I regret not ordering a Framon 2 when I first heard about them a few years ago. I was told about them by someone who lost one out the back of their van and after picking it up out of the road it still worked like a charm. May have a purchase in my future. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
This is definitely the machine I'm going to buy for doing edge keys by code. The Framon #2 doesn't need firmware updates, and will probably never lose it's value. #lockboss
I love mechanical machines like this. They are super reliable and accurate. We all love new electronics, but the most reliable are machines are mechanical and lack all the bells and whistles. #lockboss
I have the Framon 2, and it is a very accurate machine. You do not need to calibrate it very often. If I could only have one code machine this is the one I would want. I think it takes a little longer to set up the first cut and change out blocks when changing manufacturers (Kwikset to Schlage, etc) than just inserting a different card into the HPC 1200 but you know if you make a Sargent or Best key with the Framon, it is going to work. #Lockboss
And if you bend that little needle in the HPC 1200, You're done until you pack it up and ship it back to have it repaired. And yes. I have done it.
@@edwardmahoney4074 mine needs to be shipped to hpc because of the same reason
I ordered a Framon 2 a few days ago. Anxious to get it and start cutting keys! #LockBoss
I have used a Framon 2 for years and have never been disappointed. They are Rock solid. A big plus is you can also cut Medeco keys as well. No cards to have to keep up with as well as with the HPC Blitz. Thanks for another great presentation.
Thanks, PJ!! I didn't realize by already owning one of these great machines made me a #LockBoss!
I love mine!! I have to travel some really bad back roads to get to different jobs and I can ALWAYS count on my Framon2 to be spot on accurate!! It, in my opinion, is one of the best machines that any locksmith can own!!
Yes!-PJ
I've had a Framon #2 machine for several year, never had any problem's with it. I really like it. #Lockboss
Great video! I LOVE my #2 I watched this video so many times before I got mine. Fantastic machine! 😁
Conner gets extra points for putting that in the "fricking" Bloopers, as he is now a super #lockboss We love PJ's "deer in the headlights" thought process...
🤣 why am I such a natural at bloopers?PJ
@@clksupplies gotta love the DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS look when he knows bloopered
It’s a great machine. My first code cutter machine. It’s easy to get lost with the graduations on the dial so have to learn to take your time but the accuracy is outstanding and your basically “calibrating” it each time you set up your first key. Framon also has one with digital readout if I remember right. Thanks for sharing. #lockboss
I’m just a hobbyist but have had a Framon2 for several years and love it. #Lockboss
I got the Framon 2 last week after lots of research as my first code cutting machine. All the keys i've cut so far have been perfect, and its design and function speak to the tinkerer in me! #Lockboss
Started out on the Blitz - someday I'll be a big boy and have a Framon! Good video, PJ! #AccessLockKeyLLC #HaulinBrass #LockBoss
I never knew how much I wanted one of these until now! #LockBoss
Now that framon 2 code machine is my kind of machine. Thanks James estep lock n Tennessee. # lockboss. # lockboss
Great info for someone like me that doesn't have a code machine yet. What's the cherry on top is seeing all the shavings so it tells me you use this machine a lot. What I think might be even more important is that right now, my first ever topo chico is chilling in the fridge. #LOCKBOSS
How did you like the topo?-PJ
@@clksupplies It was delicious! My wife is a die hard Perrier drinker...Topo has now been added for auto reorder.
Awesome-PJ
Excellent illustration of how this "faithful old dog" works. #LockBoss
I’m a hobbyist but have a Framon 2 for several years and love it for the flexibility. #Lockboss
Great video never heard of that machine thank you
This will be my next big purchase, been using 1200 for a long time and love it. The Framon is a machine I have always been interested in. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
I have a Framon 2 that I picked up used. It's missing some of the accessories but does exactly what I need it to. I like that machine; it's definitely a tough little thing and is pretty easy to calibrate and keep calibrated. The book with the key data has proven extremely useful as well. I think cutting a key on a Blitz is a bit faster, but the Framon 2 is more accurate. Thanks for the video! #Lockboss
It’s kind of neat seeing on this machine how you really have to dial in your measurements and seems like you definitely have to pay attention more than some other key cutters. #LockBoss
Great video, JP. Now, after watching you explain the strengthens, it makes sense why the Framon 2 is more precise. I also think the user also has more control the making repeatable cuts that are not standard such as a wider root. Sometimes a manual machine where they don't tell you to cut is better than a card. I would personally buy a Framon 2 if I had the money. #LockBoss
I've always been a bit intimidated by what I EXPECTED it to be like using the Framon 2. After seeing you use it now this #LockBoss is more EXCITED to get my hands on one to try it myself. This WILL be on my list of new machines. Thank You once again PJ for helping to share and explain our #LockBoss World.
🙌-PJ
Precious information PJ. Precise and accurate cuts makes a great #Lockboss
pj another great video. so glad you show different machines! helps when deciding what to get. framon i think will be mine. thanks #lockboss
🙌-PJ
I can tell that Phil's dad was a machinist once.
Thanks PJ!
#Lockboss
Thanks PJ, I’ve always been curious about the Framon. Seems more complicated than my Blitz. # Lockboss
Yeah, I hope to record a battle soon-PJ
It's like riding a bike .Once you learn you will never forget.
This looks like an awesome machine. I love that you can see the actual measurements of the depth and spacing. I can see how some folks might not like the way that works, but to me, that's no kidding what's happening inside the lock, whereas relying on just the #X pin systems for each of the manufacturers is more like depending on some magic numbers. #lockboss
Looks like a really nice machine and simple enough that I think I could use it. Thanks PJ for another great video
#Lockboss
Great video and demonstration PJ. It sounds like a Framon 2 is a must have. #LockBoss
Great video ,looking forward to more in the series, i have an FRA #2 and love it.#LockBoss
Great video pj. I love the framon 2 great machine. #LockBoss
I have a Framon 2 arriving today -- out for delivery as we speak :) After shopping around, the value added by all the extra included accessories (DSD info, dial caliper, Genericode software, extra Medeco cutter, etc.) is excellent. But what really sold me was the responsiveness from Phil at Framon. These are real people that will help you figure it out. In my experience Framon products are well built and non-plastic and just seem to work. If you're in the market for a non-bells & whistles manual code machine, it's worth taking a look at the Framon 2. #Lockboss
Excellent video pj, definitely is the legend! They got you good with the bloopers this time. #Lockboss
Right! Haha-PJ
100% agree with the wider root of cuts. Not only to help make sure the user didn't make any mistakes on spacing, but also to account for how many cheap knock-off companies there are now. Example: Kwikset, Defiant, Gatehouse, Brinks, etc., ALL use a Kwikset key blank....but their spacing isn't ANYWHERE close to being the same! 😂 This allows you to account for cheap manufacturing.
The Framon 2 is perfect for making different cut depths due to imperfect pins in the kits that are 97% thru 98% accurate prompting you to take on the adjustments down to the thousands respective to the pin measurements, even the HPC Blitz doesn't have it as explicitly.
EPD - Pin Size = Framon2 Cut Depth.
Great video #LockBoss. I always wondered how these machines operated. i had heard many people rave about them. Really apprecaite the quick tutorial on how to operate this tool, Thanks, Oh and Conner thanks for the Bloopers!
🤣-PJ
I'm going to need a bigger counter!!I would love to try either one!! #Lockboss
I have always thought it was a great machine. I have never been able to use one because my boss had an HPC Blitz. Now that I started my own business and use a Foley Belsaw 200, witch I can do most anything you can do with a $3000 machine, I am glad to see someone else agrees with me. #lockboss.
Will a Framo2 cut Medico keys?
Yes-PJ
Wow that this is great that thig is strong and simple with great ingenuity backing it up 🤘🏆#Lockboss
I just have the book and it’s from the 80’s LOL still works great!!! #Lockboss your blocks are so shinny compared to mine😂 never tried making wider I like that!!!! You locked up in the bloopers man you saw me I was a nervous wreck LOL!!!
🤣 I never realized how goody I was when thinking until Connor started showing the world! -PJ
I've never seen a Framon key machine in action before. I admit it looks intimidating , thanks to your video it's not intimidating anymore.#Lockboss
"Living legend"😂😂😂😂😂
Nice machine!! I'm gonna keep it in mind for when I can get a code machine! #lockboss
Informative and a good sales pitch! #lockboss
Great video, looks like a very good and simple to understand machine, #lockboss
Awesome video PJ, I’ve wanted to learn more about this machine ever since I heard of it, especially since a lot of #lockboss folks love them; thanks for doing this!
“Don’t put this in the freakin’ bloopers” lol 🤣
Never had the chance to operate the Framon 2 Key Cutting Machine. Looks like a nice machine #Lockboss. V/r, Father Frank
Nice machine, enjoyed the podcast and giveaway show#Lockboss
Looks like a very well thought out and put together machine. If I'm ever in the market for a new machine I'll definitely give the Framon serious consideration. #Lockboss
Esa máquina es muy buena, debieron sacar una versión con escala centesimal para el resto del mundo.
That really looks like a great machine. #LockBoss
That is one impressive machine #LockBoss
For an auto shop that wants to also provide keys what machines on the market are suitable? do you maybe have a video that list maybe what someone would need to start up?
#Lockboss Thanks for a great video. This is a very interesting machine especially since it appears to work so well and it is at a bit of a budget price.
As always, a great video, PJ. I see the advantage of learning the spaces and depths, but...man... this #lockboss just really likes his NEW Blitz 1200 that I just bought from CLK!!
Heck yes! Thanks Kevin-PJ
I have never had the chance to check out one of these yet. So far I've only used an old hpc. Looks like a great machine! #lockboss
#Lockboss Going to be ordering this soon. That's a lot of product, and quality in that price range
🙌-PJ
I have heard of the "LIVING LEGEND" But never used one. And now I really really want to use one. 😆
Thanks for sharing.
#lockboss
🙌-PJ
Great review my friend. Seems like a great MACHINE let's ask the lock FATHER lol thanks for the video..#LOCKBOSS 😎
i have one, and i love it. i also have an HPC 1200 blitz and it is good too, and can be faster, but when i need to know the keys are perfect, framon 2 is the go-to machine and it's very easy to adjust too, which it never really needs anyway. i'll never sell mine. #lockboss
Now this is the ultimate #lockboss machine
Thanks Pj
Stay well #lockboss
I’m with you! I like the Framon! #Lockboss
ok so this is in affect an #LOCKBOSS Miniaturized Milling machine . It is very similar in function to a 1940's era US NAVY SURPLUS WARREN & SWASSEY TURRET LATHE, that I used 30 years ago as a machinist. Great Job on the description too.
Wow.... I should have started with one of these! #Lockboss
That is a solid machine. 👍 #lockboss
Excellent video pj, #lockboss
Great video. Great machine. #Lockboss
just financed one of these bad chickens, cant wait to use it!!
#Lockboss
🙌-PJ
Great video never heard of that machine #lockboss
Awesome video can't wait to get a framon 2 #lockboss
Interesting design, it makes the machine more flexible (assuming you can find an appropriate spacing block).
#lockboss
U could use withou-PJ
Very cool my friend. #Lockboss
Once you use it long enough, you'll never forget space and depth info for those most common keys. #lockboss
Framon II IS the #lockboss of key machines. If you know and understand how to use the Framon II, you are a REAL #lockboss
I love my Framon #2 machine. #Lockboss
Excellent video, I got to get me one of these.
#LockBoss..👍
Hmm, a line from movie "Independence Day"
@@Pyrolock And I did...👍
@@dougkimber21 excellent
🥳-PJ
I dial in 55154 and select correct key card then send and press start (Silca Unocode)
Great machine, have 3 of them in my bag. #lockboss
Looks like quite the machine! #lockboss
Can you do a side by side comparison againist the 1200. I've personally used the 1200 for over 20 years. I've got 3 of them. And when I get another van I will be shopping around for a new machine. Thanks... #LockBoss
Yes, plan on doing it soon!-PJ
Great machine. #lockboss
Framon 2 great machine #lockboss
#lockboss This looks like a great machine, might be worth trying one out!
Very nice machine #lockboss
I love my framon! #lockboss
Excellant tutorial as usual from the original #Lockboss. What is the second cutting wheel used on?
If you compare the keys and manufactures found in the Framon book to the number of code cards that HPC has for the 1200 who has more? JMJ Locksmith Groton, MA
The second included cutter is for Medeco. PJ didn't highlight this in his video, but the Framon 2's cutter also has a left and right angled rotation to cut Medeco keys. This comes standard on the machine. I'm not sure which has more codes, but the included Genericode software allows you to print out your own code cards for the HPC Blitz. Hope that helps. #Lockboss
💯-PJ
@@zach2763 Thanks, Zach.
Genetic true code machine with geneticode? Amazing i went to framon site during the live yesterday and it looked very good. This longevity is a testament to the good engineering.
I wished you could do an extended take with angles cut keys ala medeco but i assume it's 'just' a different jaw that tilt the key.
#Lockboss
You can angle the cutting wheel to do angled cuts. No different jaw required.
@@theprofessionalhobbyist802 thanks for the answer!
#lockboss will the schlage split blitz do the same thing Ed Fugate good video
I have heard amazing stories about accidents that happen to these machines, and they cut perfect keys (without needing to be calibrated). I have a 1200cmb, i have been curious about these for some time, i hope to get a chance to demo one sometime and see for myself. I have a terrible memory, so the 1200 may be better suited for me, but i may surprise myself? #lockboss
It's possible-PJ
Cool machine #lockboss
It's so easy to use. #lockboss
Have the original and it is amazing #lockboss
I love my Framon #2 and G code. #lockboss
Looks like a good machine. #lockboss
Started out with Framon. Works ok but doesn't stand the test of time, broke down after 4 years. HPC 1200 is the way to go