UPDATE: Hey everyone, thanks for the views and comments and suggestions. I took them and made a bonus video with them, thanks once again!! Love you ♥ ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
You are totally right! I did see some "something something Locke!" when fighting bandits at the desert but I thought it was kinda random, not knowing there was also a Setzer, so that's pretty cool then! Thank you!
Oh really? That's cool, I haven't been focusing too much on finale details because I rushed through some walkthroughs but I'll play and slowrun it myself once I can get it, to start noticing that type of stuff. Thanks for the info, I should pay attention when I reach it. ❤
Yeah I noticed that also during my gameplay when he survived one of Clive's big attacks! As soon as I saw that one wing I instantly thought of Sephiroth.
You are %100 right, it was one of the first things I wrote in the demo and then I ignore it when doing the full run LMAO reference or not it's totally worth the mention
I make amends today and included the whistle in my follow up video based on suggestions. Thanks for that reminder good sir! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
Well, in the most technical way, Ifrit demonic design was changed from FF8 forward, starting to be more a feral beast instead. Before that he was more horny and a green fiend-like. In FF16 is an hybrid to be badass more than anything
There was such a focus or known inspiration from FFT before the game was out that when Ultima was revealed I was like "OH of course!". Feels it was meant to be
Yup! It clicked in my head when you see the portrait at phoenix gate. I saw the winged creature in the middle and I was like, wait….that kinda looks like ultima from FFT and FF14. The only reoccurring feathered summon type creature other than Garuda and phoenix that I could think of
@@Kavsilvers OH i love that!! I have to catch up on FF14 stuff. I only know about the Ivalice dungeon having a cool looking Thunder God Cid so I'm guessing the Ultima there looks very cool, judging by both FFT and also the 12 version. I should pay attention to that, thanks
You could almost argue that 16 version of Bahamut is the strongest incarnation since he uses the strongest of the megaflare variants. They even have memes of him against Donald Duck from Kingdom Hearts 3 since they both use zettaflare
Omg I love that. It was the first thing I noticed because I was collecting Bahamut attacks, and I'd LOVE if people catch on that and joke about Donald Duck having finally a rival 😎
@@DroWarriorOfLight technically it’s not even a real match considering Donald literally drops dead after using it once but we see Bahamut can use zettaflare more than once. The second time was underpowered compared to the first time. The second time he was using it against Ultima.
@@madambutterfly1997I’m pretty sure what he used against Ultima was TeraFlare, even uses the same golden color rather than the almost pure white ZettaFlare uses.
You know, that's a very good point, because FF11 and 14 are clearly my weaker points, and I'm sure there's around stuff like that I have not experienced (specially knowing who worked on XVI) so thanks for remarking that one in particular
It is almost identical- the whole bahamut eikon fight had scenes from ffxiv’s t13 and UCOB, as well as “flames of truth” cinematic. And it made the fight even more epic
Hey, wanted to thank you once again to mention that moment, as I did a bonus follow up video with suggestions and included that one, and it's really cool looking too 🙏
Yeah, funny and somehow fitting that appears in a game where Odin is not, but there's certainly a lot of cool stuff in FF12 with its enemies. I covered them in a different video because how cool it is
Yeah that was pretty cool! I remember noticing later how they name dropped the Invincible name around too, and thought of including it in a bonus video but I think it was harder to show in footage as it was mostly text 😅
Awesome video! However, I believe the Clive and Jill scene feels more like a reference to the Tidus and Yuna scene in FFX. But I can see it being a reference to the Cloud and Tifa scene as well!
You know, I did a bonus video with suggestions and such and *the* one I regret to include was how Kimhari was near Yuna and Tidus intimate moment too, I think it's pretty funny. (Of course, reference or not, I think as long as it gives that "oh it reminds me of ____!" is cool enough to me 🤭)
It looks like they used Ultima’s armored angelic form for FFXIV’s raid boss, Themis. He’s also an armored angel with four arms and uses light and dark magic. Or vice versa I can’t say which came first since they’re the same team that made 14 and 16.
Yeah, I am sure there's ton more of stuff with designs or cutscenes or music that may be a wink to FF14 knowing who are the creators of both, but it's my weak point and surely I miss that so I like reading examples like that one, thanks !
When Clive introduce himself as Underhill in Dalamil, that reference was from LoTR The Fellowship of the Ring when Frodo introduce himself as Underhill to the bartender of The Prancing Pony.
I'm sure there are some hidden ones like that about non-FF stuff especially when the localisation team is very sneaky with those. So that's pretty cool to notice
This character called Joseph from that one side quest was very likely to be reference of Geralt of Rivia from Witcher series. A white haired sellsword who would defend monsters that can be reasoned with sounds like a direct allusion to him. He also had similar hairstyle to one of thr Geralt's hairstyle choice.
There is also one where Clive and Jill at the start of the game are on the balcony in the moonlight. That is a reference to Squall and Quistis in Balamb Garden FF8. Clive even leans like Squall in the scene.
You are so true, a handful number of people have mentioned me that before so clearly it does give such vibe of that moment, I will pay attention to both now
At some point during Bahamut fight I saw the ACC vibes of killing Bahamut in the air after going through a big attack and then going through Bahamut itself. But someone mentioned the climax in FF14 ARR with Bahanut there and I had to link those moment together in a bonus follow up video I made 😅
There are several more references to FF6 that you missed. - The Stolas are reminiscent of the carrier pigeons used to send messages in FF6 - One of Mid's assistants is named "Owain", which was the name of Cyan's son - Later in the game, there are a couple of lore entries that refer to "Magitek" and "The War of the Magi" Also, disappointed you didn't include the many references to Vagrant Story. - Joshua is a reference the character of the same name in VS, also a young boy and the son of a duke - "Cursebreakers" is a reference to "Riskbreakers" from VS - Both games feature a tattoo as a key plot point - Clive has similarities to Ashley from Vagrant Story: both have repressed memories due to trauma, and both are "vessels" for a greater power
I like and take the FF6, specially the one about Magitek, I like that from lore guy. The way magic is treated or is dissapearing at the end gave me a lot of FF6 flashback in general after all. From other games like Vagrant Story I didn't want to look up too much, because I've seen that those exist but I would not be able to recognize them myself. I know how relevant it is to the Ivalice side of things too, tho, so it makes sense
@@DroWarriorOfLightVagrant Story connection to Ivalice is tenuous at best there's a conflict information about it. Matsuno didn't considered as a part of Ivalice universe while SE insisted that it does
No wonder the devs interview had them talking about their favourite Final Fantasy being 5 and 3 I think? Besides the Ivalice connection. Good for them, I love those too
For real. I always thought the big inspiration was Tactics for obvious reasons, but there's a lot of FFV love going on here, I saw that interview later and didn't expect that answer to be the most common one.
@@AlternativeTendo-ne4qz Totally. While I won't take that interview that serious considering there's like thousands of people working on this, not just a couple, I still find it funny to relate that with the cases here.
@@PedroLOPEZ-oz4hy I guess it makes sense, there's a fair ammount of those AND the Ivalice games in here, or at least that's the impression...besides FF14, for obvious reasons
I just been told that they relate the one wing section to it! That's cool, I speed through the final sequence because I had to play it yet so I'll slowrun to pay attention to those details I didn't get and been collecting from what people show me, I'll check it out, thanks 👍
Yeah in his Ultima Risen form he has one wing. Also Combined attack of Bahamut Ifrit and Phoenix is called tri-disaster the same as FF VI attack and FFXIII paradigm name
Idk if i missed it in the video, but in the new hideout you can hear kids talking about the whole hideout used to be an airship. If you look at the airship sticking out the water, it looks like the invincible from ff9
I don't remember who I talked to, but we exchange info that the Invincible is mentioned (besides that the ruins around are supposed to be this ancient airships) and that can be to FF3 airship called like that who was the callback FF9 also did. But for relevance purposes in this game's story, the enterprise was the only included 😅
In Trabor there's an NPC named Karel, Tanner. It's a reference to Karl Tanner, a show only Game of Thrones member of the night's watch, probably the most memorable show only character.
That is pretty cool to see. I am aware that are many sneaky names and references by the localization team even in trophy names and such, that's why I had to stick with FF-only stuff because I'm sure I would miss most of those instead 🤣
The Phoenix vs Bahamut fight is a major reference to the FF14 1.0 conclusion and Binding Coils raid series in 2.0 where it is revealed that Louisoix had transformed into the Phoenix to battle Bahamut.
That's pretty cool, I've been told the resemblance of the ending of that fight in 16 to one moment in XIV so there might be some of that. I'm not that knowledgeable of 14 so I love to read impressions of more experts about it because I'm sure there's ton of stuff like that considering who made both games
Hey, wanted to thank you once again as I made a small follow up video as a bonus or part 2 and include that one specifically and it's such a cool one, thanks again! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
Right near the start in the flashback when Clive and Jill talk, Clive turns and spread arm leans against the wall. Pretty sure this is a reference to rinoa and squall.
I had a lot of Squall and Rinoa vibes! Besides the balcony talk, the moment during one of the last side quests with them in the flower field gave me a lot of memories to Squall and Rinoa promising each other that if they get lost they'll go back to those fields to find each other etc
That's actually a reference to Squall and Quistis in the "Go talk to a wall scene" right after the ballroom dance. Squall does the exact leaning pose there
Like Cray Claw there are also Karlabos found in the Norvent Valley. I loved all the Final Fantasy V references. I went gaga over Liquid Flame. I would love to see a second video Dro.
Oh thank you very much!! I have to check that Karlaboss now, I was so happy with the FFV love! I actually may do a short bonus/part 2 of this with some inputs I've received from everyone now that you mention it❤
Hey hey, update for no reason, just to thank you for that suggestion as I ended putting up a small bonus part 2 based on that, including Karlabos so thank you!! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
I remember a quest in XIV Stormblood where two red chocobos would spawn on the overworld. They would cast meteor and absolutely gank you. Problem is, multiple people could spawn the pairs for their quests, too 😂 leading to absolute mayhem with a dozen red chocobos running amok, slaughtering everyone 🤣
No kidding, my introduction to red chocobos fame was to see some friends panicking at their name alone 🤣 I am excited to learn these small but meaningful things through the FF14 journey
you may have missed out on Ambrosia being a reference to FF13 Lightning Returns - Odin Chocobo form with the idea of the norse Odin losing one eye, and Ambrosia wearing an eye patch.
Hey hey, just wanted to thank you once again for the suggestion, because I did one bonus follow up video based on inputs/suggestions and mentioned Angel of Valhalla. Thanks again! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
oh Hi there, I didn't rehearse what I wanted to write here, so, if you enjoy the video and topic and want to share if you had a similar situation with a part of the game reminding you of someone before, please share, I love shit liek that. And if you like it and want to help with a 👍 and subbing and such, it'll make me happy, just saying. Love you♥
There’s a lot of design aesthetics in 16 that are similar to 14’s but I think it’s exceptionally notable that Torgal’s super saiyan form looks a lot like 14’s Fenrir in ARR. It’s a bit hard to pick out actual 14 references since that game is also packed with references to other Final Fantasy games but the Red Chocobo is a solid pick. Stop dropping meteors on me little dude! 😭
Yeah, I pretty much assumed that there was going to be a lot of XIV stuff, but also a lot of XIV stuff that were already from other stuff lmao, and I'm not the adequate to point them out apart from some mentions, red chocobo one is cute tho, it's one of those things I learned from friends experiences 😅
Other subtle references - Cactuar note next to a closed door on the second floor in Damakiah - Obviously, every Eikons do their classic attack, but the way Kupka flips the ground when he fights Clive in Rosaria is very subtle yet very close to how FF7 did it - Phoenix Down Curiosity is a nice touch as well And also, to people that says this is not a "real" final fantasy because its not turn-based on it feels too much like DMC...we all know Square is used to change and experiment with the gameplay for each title and never before people said it was not a Final Fantasy game....hereby, I think what makes a Final Fantasy game is most likely the IP references. Items name, monster names, summons, character jobs and/or names.... I think that as long as we get those references in, any gameplay can make it a final fantasy game. And FF16 had such a great story and all these little nodes to previous game that never once I felt like not playing a Final Fantasy game. Even if we dont control a party, I always felt like I was in a party with other allies. They did a great job at modernizing the franchise and doing it doesnt prevent us from buying the old classics they also remastered. Everyone wins!
Yeah, while I talked about Eikon/summons attacks in other videos, the way he flips the ground is very FF7 specific. Other than that yeah, don't worry, I personally don't even acknowledge that topic or debate because it's so silly, but I can say that if you have the need to answer someone about it, just share/link them the twitter of Sakaguchi himself, who's been enjoying FF16 more than any other around lmao, if none of us have any authorized word, then I think he kinda does
Also, it's hinted that the world of FF16(forgot the name) in the past is akin to FF tactics Ivalice, having lost the knowledge of Airships and by the end of FF16 also having no magick.
Oooh that'd be so cool if they thought it that way! I remember that in FFT a simple gun was like super revolutionary and at the end of 16 they are in a very reboot type of current technology 😅 so that would be cute
You are so true, I actually had footage of that moment to eventually include it, but it happened so past that I left it as a "I should probably just mention it among other things" and eventually didn't lmao. But I'm glad you also noticed that! 😎
Hey hey, random update but I made a small bonus as part 2 to include suggestions and more small moments and I included the spirit within one, thank you for that once again! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
You know, you are very right; I wanted to make a joke using those 3 to some friends and then realized that I didn't include him here because Tidus and Yuna weren't all +18 on each other but was pretty much as intimate so that's funny 😂
Amazing question. I've been noticed about that after finishing the video and I personally missed it but it's totally an amazing one, and pretty funny too
Hello, I need to mention that I redeem myself a little bit adding that iconic one to the smal bonus/part 2 I did as a follow up with your suggestions so thank you once again! 😅 ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
Yes!! I've been informed about that one and sounds so cool! Personally details like that I don't have present because I did a general check to find basic references and then experience details like that myself at a slower pace, so I'll definitely check that out
Yes, for sure, I love motifs in general and would love to talk and put up something about them. For the moment I took your suggestion and along others in a small bonus part 2, so thank you for that input!! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
I'd like to add that in the final battle in the JP version Ultima calls every eikon as the name of their summon spells from FF3: Icen (Shiva) Spark (Ramuh) Hyper (Titan) Catastro (Odin) Bahamur (Bahamut) And he calls Garuda "Gigameth", which is a character from FF3 that eventually turns into Garuda. Phoenix is instead called "Tycoon", which may be a FF5 reference.
That's probably the coolest addition. I wasn't aware of the words said outloud with so much going on, thank you very much! I should watch it, I love details that "hidden"
Great job catching all the node and references! Awesome video, but i can’t believe one of the most obvious ones is going missed: Jote, Joshua’s protector is also the name of Fran’s sister in FF12. you meet her in Eruyt Village in that game.
Thank you! I've made a follow up video to add suggestions and contributions, but the focus of Jote was only on the idea that she's suspiciously close to a tonberry with her knife and lanterns around lmao. I honestly didn't have the Viera name in my mind
You can tell that someone is a fake FF fans, when they sees a recurring features or reference from the older game (they mostly only knew 7 and above) and immediately thought that this is a "love letter" to the franchises. Bitch, every FF games has referencing each other since 2!
Found an easter egg in Dark Spine. Similar to the Zanarkand Ruins that you will encounter a Behemoth in a circular like battle area. In Zanarkand ruin, most of circular battle area you will encounter Behemoth
The behemoth fight was very well done and traditional, the designs were very neat and classic, and from FFX it even keeps that big Comet attack or that "oh you killed me? Check these meteors instead"
This might be a light one, but there’s another FF9 reference when that scene at the Crystal Dominion being attacked at night. The roofs that Clive will be walking on are the same design as the ones you walk on as vivi at the very beginning of FF9
Oh of course! When I did a small follow up video with some bonus moments, I mentioned that even if they are not explicit references, if they give you that "Oh, just like in ___" vibe, to me personally is equally cool to know, so that's a good one too!
@@DroWarriorOfLight this game is a love letter from square enix to all the final fantasy fans with all this homage to the previous games, I just finished the game and wow, hope you enjoyed the game as much as we did in this comment section!
Yeah, that's fair. My thought is that FF2 is the Wild Rose that is used as a symbol all over the world for the rebel army group, and this is very specific to the place and desert area, but it's more of a mention because it can be just a normal thing
Not necessarily as while I think Clive had a lot of "redemption" "atone for sins" etc etc like Clive, the Dynamic with Joshua always remains more wholesome and without much conflict between them as the tension Golbez and Cecil for the majority of the game.
Debería. Personalmente creo que la oscuridad/noche eterna en FFXV es muy parecido a lo que pasa en XVI con el "Blight" donde el mundo va perdiendo vida de a poco, y los demonios son más frecuentes. (Y el ending puede ser parecido)
Is it? It doesn't ring a bell in my brain but it was indeed an item desert-related as you had to defeat the Antlion for it. Probably is something similar or depending the version. Although yes, it's not such an unique item name so it could be other places, I just have very specific Ruby Weapon memories 😅
@@DroWarriorOfLight i know why. coz tonberry can't be effing agile for this action-based FF16. otherwise, my tonberry would be like Master Yoda. kinda make sense isn't it?
Good news, I found a tonberry and included her in my new follow up video as a bonus/part 2. It's less green and more human, but it's my theory: ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html lmao (you are right about the action part tho, FF7R handle it pretty well all things considered)
What a great video! I have a different opinion on the Red Chocobo, his attacks are the same from FFXIV but the colors and model of the Red Chocobo in FFXVI is exactly the same as FFXIII-2 Crazy Chocobo. They both look exactly the same. And Clive's White Chocobo resembles the one in FFXIII Lightning Returns which is Odin when he appears as a White Chocobo and assists Lightning in the battles. Well done figuring out the rest of the Easter Eggs and references as i myself couldn't recognize as many as you did, even though i played all Final Fantasy games.
Ooooh I honestly have to check about the models because when I look at 13 chocobos, I think of a more featherly one, which is how the Angel of Valhalla (aka my baby) has those green tones on it. Thank you very much for that!! Glad you enjoy and I for certain had miss a lot too, as this was my first version but have been told about some other details that are cool. The most memorable I miss/forget: The Mageth brothers hunt as a Magus sister callback, very cute.
I've been told and noticing the translator for trophies love being referential because there's a couple like that, so I'm not surprised 😅. Although they are non-FF related so I haven't checked them fully personally
@@haroldinodeleonskie1578the songs used are, in order: The hideaway at night song in FF16, FF4's Sorrow and Loss, FF6's searching for friends, back to FF16, FF3's Elia maiden of Water, FF9's Eiko theme, FF7's On the other side of the Mountain, FF8's the successor, and FF5's Final Fantasy main theme
Crisis core Bahamut used Exaflare and only Exaflare, he destroys the moon while using it and it tears the crust of the planet off as it fires even in the HD remaster, he doesn't use the moon to fire it, but it still does significant damage to the planet
It's nice they would make references to the actual series because if not for summonimgs and enemies this game would have absolutely nothing to do with final fantasy. FF played exactly the same for 2 decades then the creators of the series left the company and then they went bankrupt and merged with enix. Since then they've had absolutely no idea how to make an open world turn based FF which is what the series actually is not some anthology where it can be entirely random every time
FF hasent been turn based for almost 20 years, shut up moaning about that, the people who now played turn based FF are in the 30s plus, and the devs need to continue to market their games to younger audiences now. Clearly you arent a true FF fan because the game is jam packed full of FF references and themes. Just admit you dont like the action style battle system and move on.
I like how most if not all of the notorious marks are references. Also, yes dread comet is referencing the red chocobo in 14, but i also think its coloring is referencing the rambunctious chocobo from 13-2. 14 and 16 are just love letters to final fantasy i love this dev team
I've been told that they also remember the CRRRRRazy chocobo from 13-2 that is associated with 🤣 I assume it's a explicit 14 thing because how famous his comets are tho. But yes! No better place to make a love letter to a franchise than an MMO and I love how they handle that
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There is also a side where you hunt bandits and one says "You're the one who killed Locke and Setzer"
You are totally right! I did see some "something something Locke!" when fighting bandits at the desert but I thought it was kinda random, not knowing there was also a Setzer, so that's pretty cool then! Thank you!
I’m surprised no one has mentioned that when ultima turns into infrit he has one wing, essentially becoming a winged angel, sephiroth reference!
Oh really? That's cool, I haven't been focusing too much on finale details because I rushed through some walkthroughs but I'll play and slowrun it myself once I can get it, to start noticing that type of stuff. Thanks for the info, I should pay attention when I reach it. ❤
Yeah I noticed that also during my gameplay when he survived one of Clive's big attacks! As soon as I saw that one wing I instantly thought of Sephiroth.
Tell me if I’m wrong, but I think he missed Clive’s whistle referring to yunas whistle Final Fantasy 10
You are %100 right, it was one of the first things I wrote in the demo and then I ignore it when doing the full run LMAO reference or not it's totally worth the mention
I make amends today and included the whistle in my follow up video based on suggestions. Thanks for that reminder good sir! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
I like how Ifrit's design went from a skinny tall guy to a strong demonic beast. A literal virgin to chad moment.
Well, in the most technical way, Ifrit demonic design was changed from FF8 forward, starting to be more a feral beast instead. Before that he was more horny and a green fiend-like. In FF16 is an hybrid to be badass more than anything
There was such a focus or known inspiration from FFT before the game was out that when Ultima was revealed I was like "OH of course!". Feels it was meant to be
Yup! It clicked in my head when you see the portrait at phoenix gate. I saw the winged creature in the middle and I was like, wait….that kinda looks like ultima from FFT and FF14. The only reoccurring feathered summon type creature other than Garuda and phoenix that I could think of
@@Kavsilvers OH i love that!! I have to catch up on FF14 stuff. I only know about the Ivalice dungeon having a cool looking Thunder God Cid so I'm guessing the Ultima there looks very cool, judging by both FFT and also the 12 version. I should pay attention to that, thanks
You could almost argue that 16 version of Bahamut is the strongest incarnation since he uses the strongest of the megaflare variants. They even have memes of him against Donald Duck from Kingdom Hearts 3 since they both use zettaflare
Omg I love that. It was the first thing I noticed because I was collecting Bahamut attacks, and I'd LOVE if people catch on that and joke about Donald Duck having finally a rival 😎
@@DroWarriorOfLight technically it’s not even a real match considering Donald literally drops dead after using it once but we see Bahamut can use zettaflare more than once. The second time was underpowered compared to the first time. The second time he was using it against Ultima.
@@madambutterfly1997Maybe we haven't seen Donald's final form yet, or go berserk for spearing his dad (?)
@@madambutterfly1997I’m pretty sure what he used against Ultima was TeraFlare, even uses the same golden color rather than the almost pure white ZettaFlare uses.
@@aguywithgames3135 touché
For me when Ifrit Risen blast through (or not) at Bahamut it might be a reference to Ff14 a realm reborn cinematic.
You know, that's a very good point, because FF11 and 14 are clearly my weaker points, and I'm sure there's around stuff like that I have not experienced (specially knowing who worked on XVI) so thanks for remarking that one in particular
It is almost identical- the whole bahamut eikon fight had scenes from ffxiv’s t13 and UCOB, as well as “flames of truth” cinematic. And it made the fight even more epic
Hey, wanted to thank you once again to mention that moment, as I did a bonus follow up video with suggestions and included that one, and it's really cool looking too 🙏
i absolutely lost my mind every time the mainline FF theme played. it never got boring and i loved it.
Yeah, I joke that it plays often, but in reality EVERY time it plays in any game it hits me hard, usually when it does during the ending credits
Sleipner wasnt just an enemy in ff3 he was also a standard enemy in ff12
Yeah, funny and somehow fitting that appears in a game where Odin is not, but there's certainly a lot of cool stuff in FF12 with its enemies. I covered them in a different video because how cool it is
You mentioned the Invincible airship, Clive's hideout is located inside the ruins of an ancient airship which is named, you guessed it, the Invincible
Yeah that was pretty cool! I remember noticing later how they name dropped the Invincible name around too, and thought of including it in a bonus video but I think it was harder to show in footage as it was mostly text 😅
Awesome video! However, I believe the Clive and Jill scene feels more like a reference to the Tidus and Yuna scene in FFX. But I can see it being a reference to the Cloud and Tifa scene as well!
You know, I did a bonus video with suggestions and such and *the* one I regret to include was how Kimhari was near Yuna and Tidus intimate moment too, I think it's pretty funny. (Of course, reference or not, I think as long as it gives that "oh it reminds me of ____!" is cool enough to me 🤭)
It looks like they used Ultima’s armored angelic form for FFXIV’s raid boss, Themis. He’s also an armored angel with four arms and uses light and dark magic. Or vice versa I can’t say which came first since they’re the same team that made 14 and 16.
Yeah, I am sure there's ton more of stuff with designs or cutscenes or music that may be a wink to FF14 knowing who are the creators of both, but it's my weak point and surely I miss that so I like reading examples like that one, thanks !
When Clive introduce himself as Underhill in Dalamil, that reference was from LoTR The Fellowship of the Ring when Frodo introduce himself as Underhill to the bartender of The Prancing Pony.
I'm sure there are some hidden ones like that about non-FF stuff especially when the localisation team is very sneaky with those. So that's pretty cool to notice
This character called Joseph from that one side quest was very likely to be reference of Geralt of Rivia from Witcher series. A white haired sellsword who would defend monsters that can be reasoned with sounds like a direct allusion to him. He also had similar hairstyle to one of thr Geralt's hairstyle choice.
That is cool! Might be, but even if it's not, I think the feeling of "hey this reminds me of ____!" is already cool to me personally
He would double as a refence to FF2's Joseph too
There is also one where Clive and Jill at the start of the game are on the balcony in the moonlight. That is a reference to Squall and Quistis in Balamb Garden FF8. Clive even leans like Squall in the scene.
You are so true, a handful number of people have mentioned me that before so clearly it does give such vibe of that moment, I will pay attention to both now
It's also from FF4 right?
@pureinnocentboi it's reminiscent of that as well
The first QTE when you fought Bahamut in space is a reference to FF7 AC Cloud's Omnislash Version 5
At some point during Bahamut fight I saw the ACC vibes of killing Bahamut in the air after going through a big attack and then going through Bahamut itself. But someone mentioned the climax in FF14 ARR with Bahanut there and I had to link those moment together in a bonus follow up video I made 😅
There are several more references to FF6 that you missed.
- The Stolas are reminiscent of the carrier pigeons used to send messages in FF6
- One of Mid's assistants is named "Owain", which was the name of Cyan's son
- Later in the game, there are a couple of lore entries that refer to "Magitek" and "The War of the Magi"
Also, disappointed you didn't include the many references to Vagrant Story.
- Joshua is a reference the character of the same name in VS, also a young boy and the son of a duke
- "Cursebreakers" is a reference to "Riskbreakers" from VS
- Both games feature a tattoo as a key plot point
- Clive has similarities to Ashley from Vagrant Story: both have repressed memories due to trauma, and both are "vessels" for a greater power
I like and take the FF6, specially the one about Magitek, I like that from lore guy. The way magic is treated or is dissapearing at the end gave me a lot of FF6 flashback in general after all.
From other games like Vagrant Story I didn't want to look up too much, because I've seen that those exist but I would not be able to recognize them myself. I know how relevant it is to the Ivalice side of things too, tho, so it makes sense
@@DroWarriorOfLightVagrant Story connection to Ivalice is tenuous at best there's a conflict information about it. Matsuno didn't considered as a part of Ivalice universe while SE insisted that it does
No wonder the devs interview had them talking about their favourite Final Fantasy being 5 and 3 I think? Besides the Ivalice connection. Good for them, I love those too
It's the love FINAL FANTASY V deserves 🥲
For real. I always thought the big inspiration was Tactics for obvious reasons, but there's a lot of FFV love going on here, I saw that interview later and didn't expect that answer to be the most common one.
@@AlternativeTendo-ne4qz Totally. While I won't take that interview that serious considering there's like thousands of people working on this, not just a couple, I still find it funny to relate that with the cases here.
@@PedroLOPEZ-oz4hy I guess it makes sense, there's a fair ammount of those AND the Ivalice games in here, or at least that's the impression...besides FF14, for obvious reasons
At one point during the Ultima battle, I am sure he only has one wing (Sephiroth Easter egg)
I just been told that they relate the one wing section to it! That's cool, I speed through the final sequence because I had to play it yet so I'll slowrun to pay attention to those details I didn't get and been collecting from what people show me, I'll check it out, thanks 👍
Yeah in his Ultima Risen form he has one wing. Also Combined attack of Bahamut Ifrit and Phoenix is called tri-disaster the same as FF VI attack and FFXIII paradigm name
Idk if i missed it in the video, but in the new hideout you can hear kids talking about the whole hideout used to be an airship. If you look at the airship sticking out the water, it looks like the invincible from ff9
I don't remember who I talked to, but we exchange info that the Invincible is mentioned (besides that the ruins around are supposed to be this ancient airships) and that can be to FF3 airship called like that who was the callback FF9 also did. But for relevance purposes in this game's story, the enterprise was the only included 😅
Svarog reminds me soo much of safi jiiva from Monster hunter world:iceborne.
Oh you totally right. It certainly match that style and aesthetic now that you mention it! (Even if I don't really know the monster itself)
In Trabor there's an NPC named Karel, Tanner. It's a reference to Karl Tanner, a show only Game of Thrones member of the night's watch, probably the most memorable show only character.
That is pretty cool to see. I am aware that are many sneaky names and references by the localization team even in trophy names and such, that's why I had to stick with FF-only stuff because I'm sure I would miss most of those instead 🤣
@@DroWarriorOfLight There's game of thrones references everywhere, Dion says a ton of Jaime Lannister lines
The Phoenix vs Bahamut fight is a major reference to the FF14 1.0 conclusion and Binding Coils raid series in 2.0 where it is revealed that Louisoix had transformed into the Phoenix to battle Bahamut.
That's pretty cool, I've been told the resemblance of the ending of that fight in 16 to one moment in XIV so there might be some of that. I'm not that knowledgeable of 14 so I love to read impressions of more experts about it because I'm sure there's ton of stuff like that considering who made both games
@@DroWarriorOfLight Watch FF 14 Answers full cinematic, it shows the awakening of Bahamut and his fight with Phoenix
Hey, wanted to thank you once again as I made a small follow up video as a bonus or part 2 and include that one specifically and it's such a cool one, thanks again!
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Right near the start in the flashback when Clive and Jill talk, Clive turns and spread arm leans against the wall.
Pretty sure this is a reference to rinoa and squall.
I had a lot of Squall and Rinoa vibes! Besides the balcony talk, the moment during one of the last side quests with them in the flower field gave me a lot of memories to Squall and Rinoa promising each other that if they get lost they'll go back to those fields to find each other etc
That's actually a reference to Squall and Quistis in the "Go talk to a wall scene" right after the ballroom dance. Squall does the exact leaning pose there
Quite the charmer
@@lionsheart6138 oh yeah. I haven't played much 8, it's the only mainline I didn't like.
I will go back one day
Red Chocobos were devastating in Tactics because they casted ChocoMeteor, also the second Hideaway is named The Invincible
The fact that this red chocobo also throws comets and such is a lovely detail with the fame it got post 14 for it
I wouldn't call the enemy variation from other Final Fantasy and FF16 as Easter Egg. As SquareEnix has been doing this for all their titles.
Like Cray Claw there are also Karlabos found in the Norvent Valley.
I loved all the Final Fantasy V references. I went gaga over Liquid Flame.
I would love to see a second video Dro.
Oh thank you very much!! I have to check that Karlaboss now, I was so happy with the FFV love!
I actually may do a short bonus/part 2 of this with some inputs I've received from everyone now that you mention it❤
Hey hey, update for no reason, just to thank you for that suggestion as I ended putting up a small bonus part 2 based on that, including Karlabos so thank you!! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
I think that Pandemonium looks alike the Mobius card of the character.
I remember a quest in XIV Stormblood where two red chocobos would spawn on the overworld. They would cast meteor and absolutely gank you. Problem is, multiple people could spawn the pairs for their quests, too 😂 leading to absolute mayhem with a dozen red chocobos running amok, slaughtering everyone 🤣
No kidding, my introduction to red chocobos fame was to see some friends panicking at their name alone 🤣 I am excited to learn these small but meaningful things through the FF14 journey
Sleipnir has 8 legs in mythology btw. Great video though.
you may have missed out on Ambrosia being a reference to FF13 Lightning Returns - Odin Chocobo form with the idea of the norse Odin losing one eye, and Ambrosia wearing an eye patch.
You know, I don't consider it but as I absolutely love LR and got surprisingly emotional because Lightning and her Valhalla Angel, I like that idea 😎
Hey hey, just wanted to thank you once again for the suggestion, because I did one bonus follow up video based on inputs/suggestions and mentioned Angel of Valhalla. Thanks again! ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
Marquise looks like Joshua because spoilers he is Joshua
oh Hi there, I didn't rehearse what I wanted to write here, so, if you enjoy the video and topic and want to share if you had a similar situation with a part of the game reminding you of someone before, please share, I love shit liek that. And if you like it and want to help with a 👍 and subbing and such, it'll make me happy, just saying.
Love you♥
There’s a lot of design aesthetics in 16 that are similar to 14’s but I think it’s exceptionally notable that Torgal’s super saiyan form looks a lot like 14’s Fenrir in ARR. It’s a bit hard to pick out actual 14 references since that game is also packed with references to other Final Fantasy games but the Red Chocobo is a solid pick. Stop dropping meteors on me little dude! 😭
Yeah, I pretty much assumed that there was going to be a lot of XIV stuff, but also a lot of XIV stuff that were already from other stuff lmao, and I'm not the adequate to point them out apart from some mentions, red chocobo one is cute tho, it's one of those things I learned from friends experiences 😅
Other subtle references
- Cactuar note next to a closed door on the second floor in Damakiah
- Obviously, every Eikons do their classic attack, but the way Kupka flips the ground when he fights Clive in Rosaria is very subtle yet very close to how FF7 did it
- Phoenix Down Curiosity is a nice touch as well
And also, to people that says this is not a "real" final fantasy because its not turn-based on it feels too much like DMC...we all know Square is used to change and experiment with the gameplay for each title and never before people said it was not a Final Fantasy game....hereby, I think what makes a Final Fantasy game is most likely the IP references. Items name, monster names, summons, character jobs and/or names.... I think that as long as we get those references in, any gameplay can make it a final fantasy game. And FF16 had such a great story and all these little nodes to previous game that never once I felt like not playing a Final Fantasy game.
Even if we dont control a party, I always felt like I was in a party with other allies. They did a great job at modernizing the franchise and doing it doesnt prevent us from buying the old classics they also remastered. Everyone wins!
Yeah, while I talked about Eikon/summons attacks in other videos, the way he flips the ground is very FF7 specific.
Other than that yeah, don't worry, I personally don't even acknowledge that topic or debate because it's so silly, but I can say that if you have the need to answer someone about it, just share/link them the twitter of Sakaguchi himself, who's been enjoying FF16 more than any other around lmao, if none of us have any authorized word, then I think he kinda does
Also, it's hinted that the world of FF16(forgot the name) in the past is akin to FF tactics Ivalice, having lost the knowledge of Airships and by the end of FF16 also having no magick.
Oooh that'd be so cool if they thought it that way! I remember that in FFT a simple gun was like super revolutionary and at the end of 16 they are in a very reboot type of current technology 😅 so that would be cute
If there something im dissapointed, is lack of Gilgamesh
Yeah, that's completely fair. Apparently the Kenji armor set is there which tends to be related to Gilgamesh but nothing of him around
10:24 definitely a biblically accurate angel
Need more eyes
i think the ability named spirits within using by enemy maybe reference for FF spirits within just maybe
You are so true, I actually had footage of that moment to eventually include it, but it happened so past that I left it as a "I should probably just mention it among other things" and eventually didn't lmao. But I'm glad you also noticed that! 😎
Hey hey, random update but I made a small bonus as part 2 to include suggestions and more small moments and I included the spirit within one, thank you for that once again!
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18:10 you forgot ffx with kimari being down the road from tidus and yuna
You know, you are very right; I wanted to make a joke using those 3 to some friends and then realized that I didn't include him here because Tidus and Yuna weren't all +18 on each other but was pretty much as intimate so that's funny 😂
But what about the Magus Sisters reference with "The Mageth Brothers"
Amazing question. I've been noticed about that after finishing the video and I personally missed it but it's totally an amazing one, and pretty funny too
Hello, I need to mention that I redeem myself a little bit adding that iconic one to the smal bonus/part 2 I did as a follow up with your suggestions so thank you once again! 😅 ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html
I really appreciate the FF1 overworld theme repurposed in the minor key to be Ultima's ominous theme!
Yes!! I've been informed about that one and sounds so cool! Personally details like that I don't have present because I did a general check to find basic references and then experience details like that myself at a slower pace, so I'll definitely check that out
@DroWarriorOfLight music references can be a video on their own!
Yes, for sure, I love motifs in general and would love to talk and put up something about them. For the moment I took your suggestion and along others in a small bonus part 2, so thank you for that input!!
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I'd like to add that in the final battle in the JP version Ultima calls every eikon as the name of their summon spells from FF3:
Icen (Shiva)
Spark (Ramuh)
Hyper (Titan)
Catastro (Odin)
Bahamur (Bahamut)
And he calls Garuda "Gigameth", which is a character from FF3 that eventually turns into Garuda. Phoenix is instead called "Tycoon", which may be a FF5 reference.
That's probably the coolest addition. I wasn't aware of the words said outloud with so much going on, thank you very much! I should watch it, I love details that "hidden"
Great job catching all the node and references! Awesome video, but i can’t believe one of the most obvious ones is going missed: Jote, Joshua’s protector is also the name of Fran’s sister in FF12. you meet her in Eruyt Village in that game.
Thank you! I've made a follow up video to add suggestions and contributions, but the focus of Jote was only on the idea that she's suspiciously close to a tonberry with her knife and lanterns around lmao. I honestly didn't have the Viera name in my mind
You can tell that someone is a fake FF fans, when they sees a recurring features or reference from the older game (they mostly only knew 7 and above) and immediately thought that this is a "love letter" to the franchises. Bitch, every FF games has referencing each other since 2!
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Found an easter egg in Dark Spine. Similar to the Zanarkand Ruins that you will encounter a Behemoth in a circular like battle area. In Zanarkand ruin, most of circular battle area you will encounter Behemoth
The behemoth fight was very well done and traditional, the designs were very neat and classic, and from FFX it even keeps that big Comet attack or that "oh you killed me? Check these meteors instead"
This might be a light one, but there’s another FF9 reference when that scene at the Crystal Dominion being attacked at night. The roofs that Clive will be walking on are the same design as the ones you walk on as vivi at the very beginning of FF9
Oh of course! When I did a small follow up video with some bonus moments, I mentioned that even if they are not explicit references, if they give you that "Oh, just like in ___" vibe, to me personally is equally cool to know, so that's a good one too!
@@DroWarriorOfLight this game is a love letter from square enix to all the final fantasy fans with all this homage to the previous games, I just finished the game and wow, hope you enjoyed the game as much as we did in this comment section!
desert rose is a ff2 reference in ff7, so idk if that counts as an ff7 reference
Yeah, that's fair. My thought is that FF2 is the Wild Rose that is used as a symbol all over the world for the rebel army group, and this is very specific to the place and desert area, but it's more of a mention because it can be just a normal thing
Does Joshua and Clive brotherly story mirror Cecil and Golbez?
Not necessarily as while I think Clive had a lot of "redemption" "atone for sins" etc etc like Clive, the Dynamic with Joshua always remains more wholesome and without much conflict between them as the tension Golbez and Cecil for the majority of the game.
Deveria ter algo sobre o Noctis ou algo sobre Final Fantasy XV
Debería. Personalmente creo que la oscuridad/noche eterna en FFXV es muy parecido a lo que pasa en XVI con el "Blight" donde el mundo va perdiendo vida de a poco, y los demonios son más frecuentes. (Y el ending puede ser parecido)
If I'm not mistaken the desert rose first appeared in FFIV as the item used to cure Rosa of her desert fever.
Is it? It doesn't ring a bell in my brain but it was indeed an item desert-related as you had to defeat the Antlion for it. Probably is something similar or depending the version.
Although yes, it's not such an unique item name so it could be other places, I just have very specific Ruby Weapon memories 😅
@@DroWarriorOfLight Never mind, I just looked it up and it was the sand ruby. Idk why I remembered it being a flower. Lol
Where's my Tonberry?
That's a great question actually
@@DroWarriorOfLight i know why. coz tonberry can't be effing agile for this action-based FF16. otherwise, my tonberry would be like Master Yoda. kinda make sense isn't it?
Good news, I found a tonberry and included her in my new follow up video as a bonus/part 2. It's less green and more human, but it's my theory: ruclips.net/video/I-9T84QRils/видео.html lmao (you are right about the action part tho, FF7R handle it pretty well all things considered)
What a great video! I have a different opinion on the Red Chocobo, his attacks are the same from FFXIV but the colors and model of the Red Chocobo in FFXVI is exactly the same as FFXIII-2 Crazy Chocobo. They both look exactly the same. And Clive's White Chocobo resembles the one in FFXIII Lightning Returns which is Odin when he appears as a White Chocobo and assists Lightning in the battles. Well done figuring out the rest of the Easter Eggs and references as i myself couldn't recognize as many as you did, even though i played all Final Fantasy games.
Ooooh I honestly have to check about the models because when I look at 13 chocobos, I think of a more featherly one, which is how the Angel of Valhalla (aka my baby) has those green tones on it.
Thank you very much for that!! Glad you enjoy and I for certain had miss a lot too, as this was my first version but have been told about some other details that are cool. The most memorable I miss/forget: The Mageth brothers hunt as a Magus sister callback, very cute.
Not to mention that once you get Fenrir he’s dog status is Snowcloak which the former is the final boss of the latter’s dungeon in FFXIV
For sure! In the bonus video I did I include a little bit of the mount design too, that matches that aesthetic
By the way is Biggs and wedge in this game?
From what *I* saw, I haven't seen them. That's why I still think the bros at the start should be them instead 😅
Gav and Goetz fill the role of Biggs and Wedge
The people who accompanied Clive to capture Jill also have dragon names, Clive was called Wyvern
Yup! The Bastards in general have those codenames. The leader being Tiamat is cute (and of course "Bahamut" was out of the question)
The achievement it's over 50,000 is a dragon ball refrence
I've been told and noticing the translator for trophies love being referential because there's a couple like that, so I'm not surprised 😅. Although they are non-FF related so I haven't checked them fully personally
Te faltó la escoria cacería mageth brothers una referencia a las hermanas magus del 4 y 10 con todo y sus nombres Cindy Sandy y Mindy
Es muy bueno!! Tenes razón, le pegué un vistazo rápido a las cacerías y ni registré ese nombre pero es re contra Magus Sisters. Gracias 🙇♂️
Or Vivi
Oh, for sure, Vivi is the most known Black mage-like character, but after all the black mages in FF9 are all based on the classic designs too
This is very neat sum-up of FFXVI
Oh thank you! I tried to follow chronologically the game story without getting too much into detail
What is the music name?
Oh, which one? At what time of the video it plays?
@@DroWarriorOfLight exactly this one
@@haroldinodeleonskie1578the songs used are, in order: The hideaway at night song in FF16, FF4's Sorrow and Loss, FF6's searching for friends, back to FF16, FF3's Elia maiden of Water, FF9's Eiko theme, FF7's On the other side of the Mountain, FF8's the successor, and FF5's Final Fantasy main theme
This is the second youtuber who doesn't have all the facts. Zetta Flare was used by bahumet fury from crisis core. Waaayyyyyyy before Kingdom hearts 3
That's exa flare, the one I literally mentioned
@DroWarriorOfLight in your video you stated that FFXVI Bahamut was the 1st bahumet to do zettea flare which is false
Crisis core Bahamut used Exaflare and only Exaflare, he destroys the moon while using it and it tears the crust of the planet off as it fires even in the HD remaster, he doesn't use the moon to fire it, but it still does significant damage to the planet
@@sylent19851that Bahamut uses Exaflare
@@sylent19851Golden Bahamut uses Exaflare, not Zettaflare
It's nice they would make references to the actual series because if not for summonimgs and enemies this game would have absolutely nothing to do with final fantasy. FF played exactly the same for 2 decades then the creators of the series left the company and then they went bankrupt and merged with enix. Since then they've had absolutely no idea how to make an open world turn based FF which is what the series actually is not some anthology where it can be entirely random every time
FF hasent been turn based for almost 20 years, shut up moaning about that, the people who now played turn based FF are in the 30s plus, and the devs need to continue to market their games to younger audiences now. Clearly you arent a true FF fan because the game is jam packed full of FF references and themes. Just admit you dont like the action style battle system and move on.
Shameless referencing since the game itself doesn’t feel or play like final fantasy
I like how when we saw torgal the furst time we were all basically like oh hes fenrir isnt he
I like how most if not all of the notorious marks are references. Also, yes dread comet is referencing the red chocobo in 14, but i also think its coloring is referencing the rambunctious chocobo from 13-2. 14 and 16 are just love letters to final fantasy i love this dev team
I've been told that they also remember the CRRRRRazy chocobo from 13-2 that is associated with 🤣 I assume it's a explicit 14 thing because how famous his comets are tho. But yes! No better place to make a love letter to a franchise than an MMO and I love how they handle that
No, you are both wrong. Its a reference to gundam, Char the red comet famous character @@DroWarriorOfLight