@@lyndis9318 Hm.....If you want to use Portland for farming you don't need to use anymore ships. This can be noticeable difference in the later part of the game
It's not the US you should worry about. It should be the historically fuel-starved Kriegsmarine and IJN. Japan went to war with the Netherlands, the UK, and the US at the same time because of how starved for oil they were : )
Phoenix, Cassin, and Downes were all at Pearl Harbor. Cassin and Downes being literal zombies, rebuilt from being destroyed in drydock by bomb hits (aimed at the Pennsylvania, not at them), having the engine and weapon parts pulled from the wrecks and new hulls built around those parts. Phoenix was able to escape unharmed, joining St. Louis and Detroit and a collection of destroyers in surging out immediately afterwards. Phoenix survived the war (only ever being hit once by a kamikaze), was decommissioned, and sold to Argentina and renamed the ARA General Belgrano (and was sunk in the Falklands Island conflict by the British submarine HMS Conqueror).
I did this and kinda regretted it. Their damage is just so bad. Even with gold weapons they do nearly nothing. They disappointed me in about every regard... the retro skins were cool though.
this is super old but i want to share, i play this game for 4 years i think now, and i still have the rookie mission that consist of 2.5k oil reward that i just refuse to claim
@@CuteLittleLily I claimed those awhile ago, now I just wait for Mondays where I can get 6500 oil (2500 from weekly tasks; 1k point accumulation, and 4000 from shop, all free)
7:57 as a german i can proudly tell you that time you nearly named her perfectly~ also, as a beginner (playing only since one week... because, i finally want my german waifus :3 ) i thank you very much for all your informative videos, especially the beginner guides helped me a lot. found your channel yesterday and im bingewatching everything important since then xD so, thank you again and im looking forward to more content!
Ok, I'm a fairly new Shikikan but a few things need to be pointed out: 1. Farming fleets are *NOT* beginner friendly. Never attempt to build a farming fleet very early on. The exp that could've gotten to your other ships become wasted on these 3. 2. Farming fleets are late game content. You need good gears, all skills at lvl 10 in order for you to maximize deploying these ships. Even Ander here clearly isn't using this fleet that much since he doesn't even have their skills maxed out. 3. If you're a casual, don't bother with farming fleets. They clear maps slower than other ships which are obviously LB'd so you're investing more time, you waste exp because they don't get any, and oil isn't gonna be a problem sonce youre6a casual anyway. I've had a farming fleet for 2 months now, and i honestly never use them. I even retrofitted Cassin so I could use her in D3 events and still contribute enough to the fight than being deadweight. I also planned on using Phoenix as a 0 limit break ship but I raised her eventually, she's now lvl 108 just because i liked her so much. I don't use her that much as a solo vanguard though since London retrofit clears maps 30 secs faster for 2 oils more, time is money. Hehe.
You don't farm 7-2 for gold? I probably blow through 20-40k gold every day, and without my 12 cost zombie fleet farming 7-2 a few hours a day, I'd be pretty screwed on max limit breaking, rolling new ships, buying books, refitting etc.
But when you are ard 2-3 months into the game(like me tho i hav taken a break for a while)i hav 2-3 lvl 100 but alot of ssrs that r at their lvl cap n im kinda limited on bulins so im kinda stuck on lvling my fleets or my zombie fleets.
@@chazzanschutz6096 No. As I said, I'm a casual, i only play 1-2 hrs a day. That and because 7-2 isn't that reliable for gold anyway. At least not for me.
I once thought that I have too much oil to ever spend completely and starve for it. So I've been doing all sorties with 78-80 oil fleets. Now I don't have oil :(
Cool. I was wondering what to do with these two, Cassin and Downes, they were both level 70 just by doing nothing, and I like them. Now I know what to do!
I found your channel today and I must say it's really halpful! When I started playing Azur Lane I did it more casually, but now I want to get a little bit better. My strategie of mostly using Iron Blood ships is maybe not the best. I noticed the more I level up, the worse the Iron Blood ships get :( Even so they are my fav, I'll make a new fleet as soon as I get Roon. I'm at 82% rn so I'll have her soon! Thanks for making these vids :)
I'm glad my guides are helping you! Hopefully in the future AL decides to drop some more new good Ironblood ships to make that faction more viable against all the other factions. We already have Bismarck, Roon, and F.D.G, so once a couple more good ships get released, the Ironblood faction will be much better!
I got lucky to have Perseus. So Zombiefleet + Perseus is OP. Fast clear on Mobs and can even clear Boss fleets. Now I'm using the Zombiefleet to farm the event. Didn't know that such things exist. I've always ignored Phoenix.
You're over here afraid of butchering Friedrich der Große's name, despite saying it way better than I ever could. Meanwhile, I'm over here just calling her Fried Rice.
For my Cassin/Downes fleet I added Sims for the damage boost and it actually worked . This way I can keep only 1 BB at the back (preferably a cheap one with 155 secondaries) - Fuso and Yamashiro are perfect for it. You can also substitute Phenix with 3 comman cruisers (less cost - 2 oil for CLs and 3 for CA) and the servivabilty is fine because they are 3. The Jap and German ones are really good. This way you can farm the XP for PR vangard ships.
Things I learned from this video 1. Phoenix is incredible 2. Phoenix is incredible 3. Phoenix is incredible 4. Phoenix is incredible 5. Phoenix is incredible 6. Cassin & Downes isn't mean to be limit-break
I have a Phoenix that is 120 at this point and I have a SECOND Phoenix at LB0 level 70 that I use in varied situations. On the Cassin and Downes in the lb0 level 70 configuration, I even bring them into event maps in very high difficulties if I need extra torpedo stat. Most of the time they actually will end up surviving all the mob runs most of the time.
As a german new player i did not understand the name of the ship you were farming for at all until you showed it. I rewinded the video and laughed my ass off. Good try tho! Thanks for the tipps and for making my day
It takes so much time to farm with Cassin+Downes, it’s possible to 1:2 in events but it’s so slow... I’d rather use a lvl 70 Tashkent (Limited tho haha)
Quick question to anyone who knows (if I missed this in the video sorry I suck :p), is there a oil penalty or level limit for retrofitting either Cassin or Downes? Should I just try to max out retrofitting both of them (or before modernization) or is there a down side to retrofitting them? Also awesome guide it was SUPER helpful!!!
hey ander, what should I do if i’ve already limitbroken/retrofitted cassin and downes before being enlightened by your video? i was thinking of raising a new pair of C and D as zombie fleet, since it shouldn’t take too much time to get them to 70 and fully enhanced. love the videos man, you deserve 100x more subs than you have rn
I've only downloaded the game only a week ago.. still skk level 30..but this zombie fleet has really helped me push my games.. damn fun to use.. even cleared sp1-sp4 on the doa event easily.. i use phoenix, cassin & indy as vanguard yorktown, unicorn & hiryu at the back pretty much invincible.. doubt would work in pvp tho
wow ander you talk so very fast i could barely understand you at the end and it was very entertaining. But thank you SO much for informing me about this I am forever grateful
Well, i have the same idea. But, the problems is on bombing ships. Due their lack of damage, sometimes the bombing ships are able to pass through our backline. So, if we use this fleet at least we need a battleship/battlecruiser in our backline. Doing full fleet of CV just make them a sandbag for the bombingships.
Omg as german to hear the pronouncination of "Friedrich der Große" be butchered so much was hillarious XD Also I kinda limitbreaked my Cassin/Downes, should I start with new ones?
Are you a collector? And if you are, are you F2P or only pay for skins (just use the free gems and apologems to buy dock space)? If you say yes to both, don't bother. This is mostly an extra efficiency enhancer rather than an absolute requirement given already how generous AL is when it comes to giving energy (AKA oil) than similar games so don't worry too much about it.
I wish I had found this before I went and retrofitted them, but I might as well finish the job and bring them to level 120. Oh, you said Portland retrofit is good? That's somewhat relieving.
Great guide! But what about the main fleet? Lets say I want event stages farming and I don't try to level up ships. What ships would be good for main fleet with low cost oil?
Personally, I would not recommend it. Phoenix is designed in a way where she is the best as the solo vanguard in order to maximize oil efficiency. Once leveled up and properly geared, she is able to survive up to 12-4 by herself. Adding other vanguards like Cassin/Downes doesn't add much and will end up costing extra oil, which is not good.
What's your opinion of a cursed zombie fleet of Phoenix, Brooklyn, Honolulu? (at 0 limit break) Oh I guess maybe it would be easier to just say "Frederick the Great"
Im using the ultimate duo vanguard cassin+Downes Retrofitted oathed NO REGRETS THEY ARE SO GOOD What about pheonix solo? BRO SHE IS A GOOD LIGHT CRUISER SOLO VANGUARD LIKE CLEVELAND CLASS SHE SHOULD GET RETROFIT AND I OATHED HER NO REGRET mix those 3 badgurls in pvp Real Good! While my main is filled with AIRCRAFTS THAT DEAL LOTS-A DMG
Affy Raffy I used Flecher, Thacter, spence/foote/Aulick unicorn, ranger, Shouhou until I got them. At the start, I used them to clear way for boss until they could kill it themselves.
I just use the low level or new ships to get them started. Going in with a fleet like this is just wasted XP since it's really easy. Combine with PR farming.
If you have some carriers you want to retrofit, then just do hard mode. It will take alot of IRL time, but not that much ingame time and oil, since you only have to fight the boss. As a side bonus, you will be swimming in CV retrofit blueprints.
@@esbendit first of all, its my fourth time on 3-4 hardmode and still no akagi. second, i already have retrofit saratoga. third, im swimming in T1 Carrier retrofit blueprints.
That was my most efficient team, until i begun my building of Saint Louis, not i use Salt Lake and Raleigh lb0 with Phoenix lbmax, and oh god they are fragile and bad at it. Me having barely any gold equipment doesn't help in world 7, bahaha
Sorry! I should have at least mentioned her, but I personally don't advise using Yorktown for farming. I didn't include her since I did not want to recommend her to my viewers. The Zombie fleet, in my opinion, is designed to level up a single backline ship by utilizing the flagship and MVP bonus, by using a low-cost vanguard fleet. The vanguard zombies do this job perfectly, as they do not steal MVP, and are there to simply stay alive and serve as a placeholder in the vanguard slots. If you were to put Yorktown in, then you would no longer be doing what the zombie fleet was designed to do. If you put her in as your backliner, not only are you not getting experience for your desired backline, but you also not being oil efficient. If you wanted a more oil efficient fleet with zombies as your vanguard, then just use Erebus and Terror instead. The purpose of this guide was to recommend ships that would be oil-efficient and great for farming, and I did not see myself putting Yorktown in either of those positions.
@@ItsAnderYT My own take involves fully limit broken Cassin, Downes, Phoenix, and Yorktown as a mob fleet to clear, three star, and eventually safe-mode new worlds and THEN I can take whoever I need to in to level up past 70 since I level most of my ships to 70 in the dorms. Further I do use that particular fleet extensively when grinding for blueprints.
5:20 Dont worry you didn't butcher it. You brutally dismembered it and fed it to pigs. My tip: Ue google Translate to at least have an idea on how to pronounce words. Thats what i do.
You butchered Friedrich der Große so hard that I didn't even know who you were talking about. Just call her Frederick the Great as this is how Friedrich der Große is usually reffered to in english
I feel like when you are covering units that have a focus on defensive skills, you should show the skill actually procing. Having phoenix at 10% hp and then clearing 3 more nodes would be alot better way to showcase her.
@@essel3886 No it doesn't. Pretty sure he is referring to max limit breaking increasing the cost. I'd honestly max them too, since 0 LB farming is useless on EN. Level 70 is too low for anything other than leveling ships. Both cassin and downes are still cheap even at max LB.
@@SuperCatacata Oh ok, I was thinking to use them to lvling other ships or getting exp for PR ships but you may be right , if I want more exp the higher the better and those 2 may not survive, thanks for the clarification and your point of view
For Cassin and Downs, you don't have to choose between limit breaking them or not, just have 2 sets of them, one limit broken and one not limit broken. With the Limit broken set you have some highly survivable relatively inexpensive DDs that can be used to meet hard mode requirements without breaking the bank.
Another great use for cassin/downes is to equip one with a pearls tear and use her alongside your 1:1 fleet if your vanguard ship is taking too much damage. They will soak up some hits, and even when they eventually die they will heal the rest for 10%
Any other ship, yes, these two, no. These two are excellent sacrificial lambs. If you really care about their affection, marry a different copy and get that cute retrofit there.
@@justinemarkdajay7485 Most of the time it's worth it, because you will use those two for mob fleet anyway, and their purpose is to only summon the boss. The real one that matter is the boss fight, which is a must S.
I find that limit broken and retrofitted Cassin / Downes are just as useful as Phoenix if not more so. Not for the damage but for oil efficiency combinations with powerful vanguards and/or cheaper mobbing fleets. You only save ~2 oil per battle using 120 Phoenix vs an Elite or SR vanguard. Personally I find having both the LB0 version and maxed out version of zombie vanguards useful once you’ve graduated to the big boy content W8-W12.
Oh god, that pronunciation of Friedrich der Große was a bit... The one around minute 8 was a lot better though As a native German speaker this is going to be my best effort at giving a quick and dirty ("close enough for government work") guide to a decent pronunciation of FdG. A quick baseline is that the english equivalent is "Frederick the Great" and I think that will come in helpful. I will try to go from familiar english words and names and introduce gradual changes until they sound like the German name. For "Friedrich", just start with "Frederick" for now. Now imagine it being "Friderick". Same as before, but the first "e" is replaced with the type of "i" sound you find in "frick." Now that we have our "Friderick", all we have to do is swap the "ck" with a "ch". It's pronounced like the "h" in "horn". So with this "Friderih" amalgamation we're pretty much there. I'd say that's close enough, though a few unpolished edges remain. For "der", I'll split it into two parts. The "de-" and the "-r". You pronounce the "de-" like the first half of "dere", as in "yandere". The "-r" is pronounced more like an "uh" or the "a" in "what". For "Große", just imagine a Canadian asking: "gross, eh?". Once you have that, cut the space in the middle so it sounds like a single word "grosseh". Right now the "e" is still emphasized, but we want to put more emphasis on the "o" instead. So we elongate the "o" sound and shorten the "e" sound, resulting in something like "grohse". "Friderih deuh Grohse". Reading that should sound close enough. The next changes in line would be making the o clearer and drastically changing the "r" sound, but that's way more outside of common english pronunciation. Other than that, a few historical tidbits: Cassin and Downes were present in Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th 1941 and they happened to be in drydock together and right next to the battleship Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania being one of the battleships was obviously a priority target for the Japanese bombers and a 250kg bomb meant for her missed and hit Downes instead. That caused a massive fuel fire on Downes which eventually spread to her sister ship Cassin as well as the much larger Pennsylvania, where it continued to grow ("Baptismal Flames" is the name of their skills...). The fire eventually reaching their ammunition stores and causing detonations in both destroyers. Afterwards both of them were written off as practically unrepairable, but some parts of them (mainly their machinery) could be salvaged and were used in the building of two entirely new ships around those salvaged parts. These ships receiving the same names and hull numbers. Regarding Phoenix, I couldn't find any historical events to support her self-healing skill. I assume that was mainly a reference to the mythical Phoenix bird, which famously revives from its own ashes every time it dies. Though it should be noted that Phoenix was not named after the mythical bird. She was named after Phoenix, Arizona. The USN named all of their ships that were cruisers or larger after places in the US at the time. In this case it's interesting to note that the Japanese carrier Taihou, means "Great Phoenix", so the two of them can be considered namesakes. Phoenix' service with the USN was, well... nothing special? She is present for Pearl Harbor, but not atttacked directly. She is also part of the force that sinks Yamashiro at Surigao strait. Her service didn't end there however. After the war she was sold to the Argentine Navy and under the name "General Belgrano" she would be sunk by a British nuclear submarine (HMS Conqueror) during the Falklands War in 1982. I believe her Argentine service is why she has such a fiery temperament. Lastly, just a small piece regarding Minneapolis. A "Dullahan" is an old irish myth also known as the "headless horseman", characterized by not having a head on their neck and instead carrying it in their arms. Why is this relevant? The more astute will know that Minnie's self-heal skill references the Dullahan myth. During the Battle of Tassafaronga, Minneapolis was hit by two torpedoes, one of which caused her bow to collapse upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Damaged_USS_Minneapolis_%28CA-36%29_at_Tulagi_on_1_December_1942%2C_after_the_Battle_of_Tassafaronga_%2880-G-211215%29.jpg. She was saved through excellent damage control and by sailing her (backwards, due to the state of the bow) to Tulagi where she received light repairs and could then make the journey back to the US for extensive renovation. Edit: Finally got that damn link to work.
@@Tepid24 Stimmt auch wieder. Österreich und Deutschland standen sich ja immer schon sehr nahe, sowohl im Denken als auch auf der Karte. Wenn ich die Gelegenheit habe muss ich euch unbedingt mal besuchen!
Timestamps:
What is a Zombie Fleet? - 1:06
Cassin/Downes - 3:26
Battle Showcase - 8:26
Phoenix - 10:15
Battle Showcase - 13:33
Tsundere Fleet?
@@alanmei2042 Hipper, Hipper Muse, Hammann? The Tsundere Trinity.
@@ItsAnderYT u forgot Nelson.
Ander is portland a good replacement for pheonix?
@@lyndis9318 Hm.....If you want to use Portland for farming you don't need to use anymore ships. This can be noticeable difference in the later part of the game
Me with my 78-oil fleet: *looks away* I hope US don't raid my oil depot lol.
that's one big boi fleet you got there
It's not the US you should worry about. It should be the historically fuel-starved Kriegsmarine and IJN. Japan went to war with the Netherlands, the UK, and the US at the same time because of how starved for oil they were : )
@@alexanderwren1732 my main bossing fleet runs on about 60 oil, 45 is kinda alright
@@Warmaker01 imagine not using civ factories to trade for oils with USSR lol
#HoI4
@@ItsAnderYT Thicc Fleet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Phoenix, Cassin, and Downes were all at Pearl Harbor. Cassin and Downes being literal zombies, rebuilt from being destroyed in drydock by bomb hits (aimed at the Pennsylvania, not at them), having the engine and weapon parts pulled from the wrecks and new hulls built around those parts. Phoenix was able to escape unharmed, joining St. Louis and Detroit and a collection of destroyers in surging out immediately afterwards. Phoenix survived the war (only ever being hit once by a kamikaze), was decommissioned, and sold to Argentina and renamed the ARA General Belgrano (and was sunk in the Falklands Island conflict by the British submarine HMS Conqueror).
*Proceeds to Limit Break Cassin and Downes just for the Flex*
also retrofit them!
Markus already did Comrade
@@wantedbywhom swag!
I did this and kinda regretted it. Their damage is just so bad. Even with gold weapons they do nearly nothing. They disappointed me in about every regard... the retro skins were cool though.
@@W0lfMan26thats the point tho, they are meant to deal poor damage so your backline fleet doesnt lose the mvp slot to them for PR exp grind
Cassin, Downes and Phoenix: Current objective: Survive
Me: I agree, I should do this to min/max my farming
Also me: always at least 200 oil over my cap with 4+ maintenance comps in my inventory
this is super old but i want to share, i play this game for 4 years i think now, and i still have the rookie mission that consist of 2.5k oil reward that i just refuse to claim
@@CuteLittleLily I claimed those awhile ago, now I just wait for Mondays where I can get 6500 oil (2500 from weekly tasks; 1k point accumulation, and 4000 from shop, all free)
Yeah min/maxing something you don't do at all seems very useful.
>Background Music
>Yuru Camp△ OST
Ah, I see you're a weeb of culture as well.
7:57 as a german i can proudly tell you that time you nearly named her perfectly~ also, as a beginner (playing only since one week... because, i finally want my german waifus :3 ) i thank you very much for all your informative videos, especially the beginner guides helped me a lot. found your channel yesterday and im bingewatching everything important since then xD so, thank you again and im looking forward to more content!
Pheonix deserves a skin for all the effort she has put in >_
Ok, I'm a fairly new Shikikan but a few things need to be pointed out:
1. Farming fleets are *NOT* beginner friendly. Never attempt to build a farming fleet very early on. The exp that could've gotten to your other ships become wasted on these 3.
2. Farming fleets are late game content. You need good gears, all skills at lvl 10 in order for you to maximize deploying these ships. Even Ander here clearly isn't using this fleet that much since he doesn't even have their skills maxed out.
3. If you're a casual, don't bother with farming fleets. They clear maps slower than other ships which are obviously LB'd so you're investing more time, you waste exp because they don't get any, and oil isn't gonna be a problem sonce youre6a casual anyway.
I've had a farming fleet for 2 months now, and i honestly never use them. I even retrofitted Cassin so I could use her in D3 events and still contribute enough to the fight than being deadweight.
I also planned on using Phoenix as a 0 limit break ship but I raised her eventually, she's now lvl 108 just because i liked her so much. I don't use her that much as a solo vanguard though since London retrofit clears maps 30 secs faster for 2 oils more, time is money. Hehe.
You don't farm 7-2 for gold? I probably blow through 20-40k gold every day, and without my 12 cost zombie fleet farming 7-2 a few hours a day, I'd be pretty screwed on max limit breaking, rolling new ships, buying books, refitting etc.
But when you are ard 2-3 months into the game(like me tho i hav taken a break for a while)i hav 2-3 lvl 100 but alot of ssrs that r at their lvl cap n im kinda limited on bulins so im kinda stuck on lvling my fleets or my zombie fleets.
@@chazzanschutz6096 No. As I said, I'm a casual, i only play 1-2 hrs a day. That and because 7-2 isn't that reliable for gold anyway. At least not for me.
@@wangzhu9315 you can level up elites or rares then. They're not that bad.
@@justinemarkdajay7485 kinda troublesome to lvl them up tho.
I once thought that I have too much oil to ever spend completely and starve for it. So I've been doing all sorties with 78-80 oil fleets. Now I don't have oil :(
Cool. I was wondering what to do with these two, Cassin and Downes, they were both level 70 just by doing nothing, and I like them. Now I know what to do!
Thanks Ander, this was mega helpful, I've been plying since january, but I've never really understood what an oil efficient fleet was.
your Friedrich der Große pronounciation was pretty good at 7:50~
I am german so i am impressed after seeing your german ship names video xD
I found your channel today and I must say it's really halpful! When I started playing Azur Lane I did it more casually, but now I want to get a little bit better. My strategie of mostly using Iron Blood ships is maybe not the best. I noticed the more I level up, the worse the Iron Blood ships get :( Even so they are my fav, I'll make a new fleet as soon as I get Roon. I'm at 82% rn so I'll have her soon!
Thanks for making these vids :)
I'm glad my guides are helping you! Hopefully in the future AL decides to drop some more new good Ironblood ships to make that faction more viable against all the other factions. We already have Bismarck, Roon, and F.D.G, so once a couple more good ships get released, the Ironblood faction will be much better!
@@ItsAnderYT yeah I'm hoping that will happen.
I got lucky to have Perseus. So Zombiefleet + Perseus is OP. Fast clear on Mobs and can even clear Boss fleets. Now I'm using the Zombiefleet to farm the event.
Didn't know that such things exist. I've always ignored Phoenix.
Thanks! And holy crap lol, I also didn't know pressing and holding on a secretary took you to their details page. Super good to know!
Literally found that out by accident 20 minutes before watching this vid
barrage isn't the only thing that tosa sneaks into your fleets, sometimes she pretends to be your DD too.
well she got torps hahaha
You're over here afraid of butchering Friedrich der Große's name, despite saying it way better than I ever could. Meanwhile, I'm over here just calling her Fried Rice.
Who gives a damn
Lmao
For my Cassin/Downes fleet I added Sims for the damage boost and it actually worked . This way I can keep only 1 BB at the back (preferably a cheap one with 155 secondaries) - Fuso and Yamashiro are perfect for it. You can also substitute Phenix with 3 comman cruisers (less cost - 2 oil for CLs and 3 for CA) and the servivabilty is fine because they are 3. The Jap and German ones are really good. This way you can farm the XP for PR vangard ships.
Things I learned from this video
1. Phoenix is incredible
2. Phoenix is incredible
3. Phoenix is incredible
4. Phoenix is incredible
5. Phoenix is incredible
6. Cassin & Downes isn't mean to be limit-break
I have a Phoenix that is 120 at this point and I have a SECOND Phoenix at LB0 level 70 that I use in varied situations. On the Cassin and Downes in the lb0 level 70 configuration, I even bring them into event maps in very high difficulties if I need extra torpedo stat. Most of the time they actually will end up surviving all the mob runs most of the time.
These two are top tier! Cassin and downes are able to take out the whole map on 3-4 and they arr both level 17
I admire the attempts at trying to pronounce friedrich der große properly. I 100% know I pronounce it wrong but close enough is good enough
my mouth: fried Rick there gross uh~
my brain: mama mia
I look forward for more butchered names
Her name is Freddy Mercury
I'll take this as a birthday gift for today Ander, have a good one! (Still waiting for Tashkent and/or Monitor Guides)
The music's really comfy btw! It's very nice
Happy birthdays random pp
Happy Birthday! I'm planning to do a Monitor/Fletcher fleet guide next video ;)
@@ItsAnderYT sometimes I wish I could heart other people's comments on other people's comment sections ❤️
@Snxppy From Google thank you other random internet person
As a german new player i did not understand the name of the ship you were farming for at all until you showed it. I rewinded the video and laughed my ass off. Good try tho! Thanks for the tipps and for making my day
"You are blessed by Phoenix's foot"
Damn right I am xdd
It takes so much time to farm with Cassin+Downes, it’s possible to 1:2 in events but it’s so slow... I’d rather use a lvl 70 Tashkent (Limited tho haha)
Why can't we have zombie idol skins for these 3? Yostar, Manjuu... give us that nao! XD
anything idol related is fine with me
7:56 perfect pronunciation for a non-native speaker =D
also thanks for the video ^^
Quickybaby (WoT) does pronunce the german tanks way better. Not that hard to use "the great" instead of "der Große". ;)
Quick question to anyone who knows (if I missed this in the video sorry I suck :p), is there a oil penalty or level limit for retrofitting either Cassin or Downes? Should I just try to max out retrofitting both of them (or before modernization) or is there a down side to retrofitting them? Also awesome guide it was SUPER helpful!!!
hey ander, what should I do if i’ve already limitbroken/retrofitted cassin and downes before being enlightened by your video? i was thinking of raising a new pair of C and D as zombie fleet, since it shouldn’t take too much time to get them to 70 and fully enhanced. love the videos man, you deserve 100x more subs than you have rn
making another pair of LB0 Cassin and Downes shouldn't be too bad, just like you said. If you want to be oil efficient, you should definitely do this.
I've only downloaded the game only a week ago.. still skk level 30..but this zombie fleet has really helped me push my games.. damn fun to use.. even cleared sp1-sp4 on the doa event easily..
i use phoenix, cassin & indy as vanguard
yorktown, unicorn & hiryu at the back
pretty much invincible.. doubt would work in pvp tho
wow ander you talk so very fast i could barely understand you at the end and it was very entertaining. But thank you SO much for informing me about this I am forever grateful
you're very welcome my viewer
Well, i have the same idea. But, the problems is on bombing ships. Due their lack of damage, sometimes the bombing ships are able to pass through our backline. So, if we use this fleet at least we need a battleship/battlecruiser in our backline. Doing full fleet of CV just make them a sandbag for the bombingships.
HMS Neptune counts as zombie for skikikans that like to use Royal Navy fleet.
And also -Irisviel- sorry Yorktown.
Wait, to get some ships, you need to have other certain ships in certain levels to obtain them, or how does it work?
Omg as german to hear the pronouncination of "Friedrich der Große" be butchered so much was hillarious XD
Also I kinda limitbreaked my Cassin/Downes, should I start with new ones?
Are you a collector? And if you are, are you F2P or only pay for skins (just use the free gems and apologems to buy dock space)? If you say yes to both, don't bother. This is mostly an extra efficiency enhancer rather than an absolute requirement given already how generous AL is when it comes to giving energy (AKA oil) than similar games so don't worry too much about it.
@@rps215 Ahk, yeah collector and mostly f2p, I buy sometimes the monthly, if I run low on cubes.
how do you zoom in like that with your secretaries?
As a german the name is easy to pronounce
Phoenix was my first lv 120 ship.... and the only ship I have 30 of.....and keep ;p
No more dock space for lower rarities, I've only got Phoenix now. She good alone. Lowest oil I can go down to right now is 30 Oil for "Farming"
Phoenix deserves at least ONE skin, it is the most used ship in the whole game and the developers have completely forgotten her :(
I wish I had found this before I went and retrofitted them, but I might as well finish the job and bring them to level 120.
Oh, you said Portland retrofit is good? That's somewhat relieving.
I saw your Cassin and Downes only had lvl 3 ability. is it unecessary to rank them 10 right away?
Great guide!
But what about the main fleet? Lets say I want event stages farming and I don't try to level up ships. What ships would be good for main fleet with low cost oil?
and once again the monitor class are not mentioned on the topic of oil efficient oh well
i was going to cover them in my fletcher fleet video, but yeah, I should've mentioned them here
why dont vampire included in zombie fleet?
Do you recommend combining Phoenix with Cassin and Downes?
Personally, I would not recommend it.
Phoenix is designed in a way where she is the best as the solo vanguard in order to maximize oil efficiency. Once leveled up and properly geared, she is able to survive up to 12-4 by herself. Adding other vanguards like Cassin/Downes doesn't add much and will end up costing extra oil, which is not good.
Your videos are amazing, thank you so much for making these.
How can you put a Battleship in front fleet and a cruiser in back fleet ??
Notification gang! You always seem to come out with videos of stuff I need haha
haha, that's good to hear.
Welp I fked up and LBed Cassin and Downes LOL. TY for upload!
haha, good thing raising another set of LB0 Cassin/Downes won't require too much work!
i love the yuru camp music
Would love Phoenix to have a retro... Maybe becoming ARA Gral. Belgrano (edited typo)
Quizás como una Skin
Phoenix retro would be amazing. She is on track to be my first lvl 120.
Ander, how are you able to go directly into battle without going to the battle formation screen?
Fleet lock
My Zombie-fleet is: Yorktown, Phoenix, Downes & Cassin at 0 limit break (11 Oil)
5:18 "I hope I didn't butcher that"
Well Ander...
Eh... How do I put it lightly? :^)
My disagreeable nature forced me to Retrofit Cassin and level her to 110, just because you said to keep her at 70.
No regrets at all.
Now there is poor me wanting a retrofit for Phoenix.
Question if both downes and cassin will be retrofitted is the oil consumption will increase too?
Retrofit doesn't raise oil cost. Only max limit breaking does. (The problem though is in order to retrofit fully, most ships need to be level 75+).
@@chazzanschutz6096 thank you sir now i can hunt materials using those two :)
They have to be MLB too in order to get the last row in retro.
What's your opinion of a cursed zombie fleet of Phoenix, Brooklyn, Honolulu? (at 0 limit break) Oh I guess maybe it would be easier to just say "Frederick the Great"
Use the Omahas instead of Brooklyn and Lulu, and they are not zombies.
Phoenix? I think you meant to say Takanashi Kiara, aka the kusotori~ XD
The Bob Ross of Azur Lane :)
Im using the ultimate duo vanguard cassin+Downes Retrofitted oathed NO REGRETS THEY ARE SO GOOD
What about pheonix solo?
BRO SHE IS A GOOD LIGHT CRUISER SOLO VANGUARD
LIKE CLEVELAND CLASS
SHE SHOULD GET RETROFIT AND I OATHED HER NO REGRET mix those 3 badgurls in pvp Real Good!
While my main is filled with AIRCRAFTS THAT DEAL LOTS-A DMG
any tips on grinding 3-4??? lol been in fox mines for weeks
Affy Raffy I used Flecher, Thacter, spence/foote/Aulick unicorn, ranger, Shouhou until I got them. At the start, I used them to clear way for boss until they could kill it themselves.
I just use the low level or new ships to get them started. Going in with a fleet like this is just wasted XP since it's really easy.
Combine with PR farming.
If you have some carriers you want to retrofit, then just do hard mode. It will take alot of IRL time, but not that much ingame time and oil, since you only have to fight the boss. As a side bonus, you will be swimming in CV retrofit blueprints.
@@esbendit first of all, its my fourth time on 3-4 hardmode and still no akagi. second, i already have retrofit saratoga. third, im swimming in T1 Carrier retrofit blueprints.
My only problem is that I don't have any oil left
Zombie fleet in CN server is OP
fletcher fleet is OP too on CN
Why your girls always get zoomed to weird areas in the home page
MY MAX LIMIT BREAK SHINANO FLEET LEFT THE GROUP
Next guide: fletcher fleet?
You guessed it. probably as long as i don't change my mind lol
Fletchers only work in CN server.
Yeah, fletcher are a no go on any server but CN, due to the fact they can get ships to level 100 without limit break.
pls do how to make vid with bstacks
I can push these bad girls to Ch. 12. Perseus, and/or Richi is OP. Plus if you got Aquila/Ryuuho/Uni Retro, then GG...
and then we need auto farm tools XD
Time to put that in test👍
5:20
That was-
I-
I died inside
Why did I watched this to late T.T
I already max lb my downes&cassin
Kinda regret it now because i use 3 bulins
I did too, plus I retro them. No regret though, I prefer farming harder maps.
Yeah? And i like downes retrofit because she look like ironblood ship
Just have two copies. I have 2 of each, 1 LB and 1 0LB for grind.
I'm still waiting for phoenix's retro >_
incredible!
:D
Nice guide, awesome ships
thanks!
@@ItsAnderYT no, thank you. Im looking forward for your discord server
Pro tip: you can say Frederick the Great instead of Friedrich der Große
More like Frederick der Diccc (Dick in german means thick)
That was my most efficient team, until i begun my building of Saint Louis, not i use Salt Lake and Raleigh lb0 with Phoenix lbmax, and oh god they are fragile and bad at it.
Me having barely any gold equipment doesn't help in world 7, bahaha
you totally butchered friedrich der große
why can't you just say FDG instead? XD
don't worry, I'll her that from now on ;)
Just call FdG Albedo.
Talking about Zombie fleets and you completely skip Yorktown the Zombie Carrier? For shame!
Sorry! I should have at least mentioned her, but I personally don't advise using Yorktown for farming. I didn't include her since I did not want to recommend her to my viewers.
The Zombie fleet, in my opinion, is designed to level up a single backline ship by utilizing the flagship and MVP bonus, by using a low-cost vanguard fleet. The vanguard zombies do this job perfectly, as they do not steal MVP, and are there to simply stay alive and serve as a placeholder in the vanguard slots. If you were to put Yorktown in, then you would no longer be doing what the zombie fleet was designed to do. If you put her in as your backliner, not only are you not getting experience for your desired backline, but you also not being oil efficient. If you wanted a more oil efficient fleet with zombies as your vanguard, then just use Erebus and Terror instead. The purpose of this guide was to recommend ships that would be oil-efficient and great for farming, and I did not see myself putting Yorktown in either of those positions.
@@ItsAnderYT My own take involves fully limit broken Cassin, Downes, Phoenix, and Yorktown as a mob fleet to clear, three star, and eventually safe-mode new worlds and THEN I can take whoever I need to in to level up past 70 since I level most of my ships to 70 in the dorms.
Further I do use that particular fleet extensively when grinding for blueprints.
Just F.D.G. is fine xP
yea I'm sticking to that from now on
5:20 Dont worry you didn't butcher it. You brutally dismembered it and fed it to pigs. My tip: Ue google Translate to at least have an idea on how to pronounce words. Thats what i do.
You butchered Friedrich der Große so hard that I didn't even know who you were talking about. Just call her Frederick the Great as this is how Friedrich der Große is usually reffered to in english
Address her as Mama Fritz
_fried the grape_
Fiete die Piepe
i'll call her F.D.G from now on ;)
6:23 was cursed tosa common rarity
just Tosa
Tosa with Destroyer equipment seems legit
imagine taihou and aoba
aoba : survives multiple battles *gray*
TAIHOU : DIES *SR*
I feel like when you are covering units that have a focus on defensive skills, you should show the skill actually procing. Having phoenix at 10% hp and then clearing 3 more nodes would be alot better way to showcase her.
yeah that makes sense. I didn't think of that but in future showcases I'll try to do that.
Dang this strat seems op, I really may need to use this to farm Akagi and Kaga. aaaa pain
Time to lvl a 2nd set of Cassin/Downes, my 1st set is retrofitted xD, and Phoenix deserve retrofit/skin!!! xD
But then she'd cost more!
@@freddytheshadowninja retrofitting augmented the oil cost of a ship? I didn't notice xD
@@essel3886 No it doesn't. Pretty sure he is referring to max limit breaking increasing the cost.
I'd honestly max them too, since 0 LB farming is useless on EN. Level 70 is too low for anything other than leveling ships. Both cassin and downes are still cheap even at max LB.
@@SuperCatacata Oh ok, I was thinking to use them to lvling other ships or getting exp for PR ships but you may be right , if I want more exp the higher the better and those 2 may not survive, thanks for the clarification and your point of view
Im German and its funny to hear how ppl pronouncing Friedrich der Große :D
For Cassin and Downs, you don't have to choose between limit breaking them or not, just have 2 sets of them, one limit broken and one not limit broken. With the Limit broken set you have some highly survivable relatively inexpensive DDs that can be used to meet hard mode requirements without breaking the bank.
Another great use for cassin/downes is to equip one with a pearls tear and use her alongside your 1:1 fleet if your vanguard ship is taking too much damage. They will soak up some hits, and even when they eventually die they will heal the rest for 10%
If you're equipping pearl tear on any ship in PVE, you're doing something wrong. Lol
Any other ship, yes, these two, no. These two are excellent sacrificial lambs.
If you really care about their affection, marry a different copy and get that cute retrofit there.
@@PhantomCatMusic but is getting an A rank really worth it?
@@justinemarkdajay7485 Most of the time it's worth it, because you will use those two for mob fleet anyway, and their purpose is to only summon the boss. The real one that matter is the boss fight, which is a must S.
@@nyenye103 i agree but I'd still rather put a DD with higher oil cost. Maybe im just too attached to my shipfus. Hehe
I find that limit broken and retrofitted Cassin / Downes are just as useful as Phoenix if not more so. Not for the damage but for oil efficiency combinations with powerful vanguards and/or cheaper mobbing fleets. You only save ~2 oil per battle using 120 Phoenix vs an Elite or SR vanguard.
Personally I find having both the LB0 version and maxed out version of zombie vanguards useful once you’ve graduated to the big boy content W8-W12.
Oh god, that pronunciation of Friedrich der Große was a bit...
The one around minute 8 was a lot better though
As a native German speaker this is going to be my best effort at giving a quick and dirty ("close enough for government work") guide to a decent pronunciation of FdG.
A quick baseline is that the english equivalent is "Frederick the Great" and I think that will come in helpful. I will try to go from familiar english words and names and introduce gradual changes until they sound like the German name.
For "Friedrich", just start with "Frederick" for now. Now imagine it being "Friderick". Same as before, but the first "e" is replaced with the type of "i" sound you find in "frick." Now that we have our "Friderick", all we have to do is swap the "ck" with a "ch". It's pronounced like the "h" in "horn". So with this "Friderih" amalgamation we're pretty much there. I'd say that's close enough, though a few unpolished edges remain.
For "der", I'll split it into two parts. The "de-" and the "-r". You pronounce the "de-" like the first half of "dere", as in "yandere". The "-r" is pronounced more like an "uh" or the "a" in "what".
For "Große", just imagine a Canadian asking: "gross, eh?". Once you have that, cut the space in the middle so it sounds like a single word "grosseh". Right now the "e" is still emphasized, but we want to put more emphasis on the "o" instead. So we elongate the "o" sound and shorten the "e" sound, resulting in something like "grohse".
"Friderih deuh Grohse". Reading that should sound close enough. The next changes in line would be making the o clearer and drastically changing the "r" sound, but that's way more outside of common english pronunciation.
Other than that, a few historical tidbits:
Cassin and Downes were present in Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th 1941 and they happened to be in drydock together and right next to the battleship Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania being one of the battleships was obviously a priority target for the Japanese bombers and a 250kg bomb meant for her missed and hit Downes instead. That caused a massive fuel fire on Downes which eventually spread to her sister ship Cassin as well as the much larger Pennsylvania, where it continued to grow ("Baptismal Flames" is the name of their skills...). The fire eventually reaching their ammunition stores and causing detonations in both destroyers. Afterwards both of them were written off as practically unrepairable, but some parts of them (mainly their machinery) could be salvaged and were used in the building of two entirely new ships around those salvaged parts. These ships receiving the same names and hull numbers.
Regarding Phoenix, I couldn't find any historical events to support her self-healing skill. I assume that was mainly a reference to the mythical Phoenix bird, which famously revives from its own ashes every time it dies. Though it should be noted that Phoenix was not named after the mythical bird. She was named after Phoenix, Arizona. The USN named all of their ships that were cruisers or larger after places in the US at the time. In this case it's interesting to note that the Japanese carrier Taihou, means "Great Phoenix", so the two of them can be considered namesakes.
Phoenix' service with the USN was, well... nothing special? She is present for Pearl Harbor, but not atttacked directly. She is also part of the force that sinks Yamashiro at Surigao strait.
Her service didn't end there however. After the war she was sold to the Argentine Navy and under the name "General Belgrano" she would be sunk by a British nuclear submarine (HMS Conqueror) during the Falklands War in 1982. I believe her Argentine service is why she has such a fiery temperament.
Lastly, just a small piece regarding Minneapolis. A "Dullahan" is an old irish myth also known as the "headless horseman", characterized by not having a head on their neck and instead carrying it in their arms. Why is this relevant? The more astute will know that Minnie's self-heal skill references the Dullahan myth. During the Battle of Tassafaronga, Minneapolis was hit by two torpedoes, one of which caused her bow to collapse upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Damaged_USS_Minneapolis_%28CA-36%29_at_Tulagi_on_1_December_1942%2C_after_the_Battle_of_Tassafaronga_%2880-G-211215%29.jpg. She was saved through excellent damage control and by sailing her (backwards, due to the state of the bow) to Tulagi where she received light repairs and could then make the journey back to the US for extensive renovation.
Edit: Finally got that damn link to work.
Wie lang hats bitte gedauert das Kommentar zu schreiben XD, aber is immer nice wenn Leute die Aussprache korrigieren! Ehre!
@@Luca-ci9vi Uns Deutschen kann man nicht vorwerfen, dass wir irgendwas halbherzig machen (psst! keinem erzählen, dass ich eigl. Österreicher bin).
@@Tepid24 Stimmt auch wieder. Österreich und Deutschland standen sich ja immer schon sehr nahe, sowohl im Denken als auch auf der Karte. Wenn ich die Gelegenheit habe muss ich euch unbedingt mal besuchen!