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If I confused you during the main gun section, the prototype version of the Twin 203mm SKC is better than its normal gold counterpart. I said that the normal gold counterpart version is best overall when comparing it to the other AP options, but obviously the prototype version is a direct upgrade. (this is why I don't cover prototypes, they get so confusing)
So for easy reference: Prototype 203mm SKC > Regular Gold 203mm SKC > the other AP guns for heavy cruisers
I had more dock slots than you 200 than 190
In General do you want AP or HE guns for Large Cruisers?
@@polojn Large cruisers are not the same as heavy cruisers, the only one in the game being Azuma. For her, she has her own special HE prototype gun.
For Heavy Cruisers, AP is preferred.
The guides you make are pretty good seeing that when I ask people for help they seem to speak a language that of gods while you actually explain things.
haha, that wording made me laugh. I appreciate it a lot :)
What should I put on them?
Sees Zara
*a ring. We should put a ring on them*
Good job. Just an additional note: the pronunciation for the PR ship Saint Louis is San Louie (SanRui in JP) to differentiate her from USS St. Louis aka St. Lewdis, Helena's sister.
Oh! That makes differentiating them so much easier! I'll definitely be able to remember that for future encounters.
As additional explanation, that's because Saint Louis (the PR ship) is french. That's why "Saint Louis" ends up being pronounced as "San Loui~"
Timestamps and another reliable equipment website with additonal information (Credits to Shangri-la for finding it) in the description!
I forgot to mention that on the torpedo-focused heavy cruisers on the exceptions list, they can put a Rainbow Type 93 Pure Oxygen Torpedo in their auxiliary slot since that will drastically improve their torpedo stat, thereby improving their DPS as well.
Edit: btw i called Saint Louis PR a prototype a bunch of times. the correct term is PRIORITY. sorry.
EditEdit: The "French" gun is not French, it's actually from the Italian event, thanks to Grimmwoldds to pointing that out
EditEditEdit: Forgot about Maya, she's in the same boat for her double torpedo skill as Takao, thanks to Ben Flott for pointing that out
Thanks for your Guides, they Help a lot. Especially the Guide on Carrier Equip helped me a lot.
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it.
i just want to mention that not all heavy cruiser have low auxiliary gun efficiency, London Retrofit have a pretty high auxiliary gun efficiency, about 160/165% i think
Ah yes, completely true. She's an exception.
When watching this, I also opened a T5 Iron blood box and got the twin 203mm main gun
Prinz's gun
Great guides! They are really helping with properly equipping my ships. Thanks! 👍🏽
You're welcome!
Yea, its alot better then just saying "fuck it" and levelling everything up high enough for it to not matter lol
Your the most under appreciated RUclipsr I’ve seen in awhile, I wish could get you more subs
I'll add that the faster reload on the proto triple AP (Roon turret) is a better difference from the twin gold AP (Eugen turret) than it looks like on paper. They both fire 6 shots per main gun base, but the Eugen turret fires three series of two shells each, whilst the Roon turret fires two series of three shells each. There is a slight delay (~ 0.3-0.5 seconds) between each of those series, meaning that the Roon turret doesn't just have ~0.4s faster reload as stated in the stat card, in practice it's more like 0.7-0.9s faster. It's still a fairly small upgrade, but slightly bigger than the paper stats make it seem.
If it wasn't for that additional difference, the Eugen turret would actually have higher DPS, because it has 5% higher efficiency.
I see! I didn't know that the difference was actually larger than what the gun stats say. Good info!
Thanks bro, these are helping a lot.
Getting back to heavy torpedo cruisers we have (I think 2 at least?) "Gun torpedo cruisers" and both I know are priority ships. Namely Roon and Saint Louis, which sacrifice preload and 2nd torpedo mount for additional main gun mount.
Can't wait for DD Guide fam
You won't be waiting for long ;)
There is actually quite a difference between the prototype triple 203mm and the twin 203mm. while the reload is similar the main difference is their firing pattern which for the proto is 3 shells 2 times vs the twins 2 shells 3 times making the proto actually fire much faster as reload begins once the gun has finished firing.
Ander, friendly reminder: Atago also have double torpedo like Takao.
Hehe yeah she does ;)
Atago sisters are hot death with torpedoes, and will spam away with them. One of their more attractive combat-related features.
Thank you these videos are very helpful for understanding ways to make skills better even though I don't have a lot of these gold gear
Glad I could help :)
Eventually you'll get those gold gears, it's just a matter of time
5:10 - A by-weapon prioritization guide might be helpful for cases like these.
HE Gun is good too for ships like Chicago, Wichita, etc. Basically CA ships that benefit from faster reload gun
I bought the gold heavy cruiser gun from the core data shop for my Saint Louis and it is still my only gold heavy cruiser gun. Was that a good idea?
This guide is pure gold
Truly the best ASMR channel out there
of course ;>
once i get a better mic I'll basically be able to achieve world domination
The 127mm MK12 in real life is really effective against air attacks from the Japanese air raids. Also, the North Carolina has that gun as a dual purpose gun (Can be used as AA) and also from many other cruisers and destroyers during ww2. The 100mm gun what I call "Akizuki gun" I believe is much faster than the 127mm MK12. The 127mm is by far the best option because it can be used as a secondary gun and AA and it is very effective against air attack damage wise.
Interesting real-world facts! The 100mm is definitely faster firing than the 127mm MK12.
What should I do if i dont have the proto gun for Saint Louis since i have her but not the gun
can it be useful to use 2 aux rainbow torps on ships with good torp stats? as i saw your ibuki only had 1.
Yep, you can. As long as your ships aren't dying, then feel free to add more damage.
If you find that your ships are having trouble surviving, then swap out a rainbow torp for a repair toolkit or something similar.
It's funny how you forget about German heavy cruisers even if all of them can equip torpedoes
Excellent job i love the videos.
Second???
And also thanks for the guides, although theres not alot of them it helped me alot especially the equipments
Glad I could help! By the time this week is over I'll have a bunch more posted to help you out even more.
@@ItsAnderYT i'm looking forward to see more
What Torpedo should i use on Prinz Adalbert who does hae a torpedo slot but no skill real torpedo dependency
PS: thank you for your great videos
what should i put on indy , portland and sandy
Question: Where can I farm the purple 138mm DD French gun? I know that the gold one is only available through the French event but I haven't had a chance to get the purple version, not even a single copy.
honestly, I think it was sadly only available during the french event. ;(
When you say that during the farm for saint louis I should have that prototype HE gun, do you mean her initial steps to get her or the blueprint farm for MLB'ing her? If it is the former I am nowhere near getting that gun.
I think when she's MLB. I have Sanrui in Dev 20 and still faraway from HE gun.
Since Baltimore can change her main gun ammo type to her special AP would any research gun do the job?
Yeah, any of the research guns are fine. I was testing out if the Proto HE gun worked better, and it had the exact same performance as the Proto AP gun. Use whatever one you have.
is the twin 234 gold gun from research viable
where does the protoype 203mm from the core shop fall in your opinion?
The core shop HE gun is 2nd best for HE main gun Heavy Cruisers. It's worse than the priority research HE gun, but is better than the purple HE gun.
I wouldn't recommend buying it since you can spend 800 core for a lot of other better things such as the White/Black shells or the F4U Corsair Pirate Squadron. It's only needed for PR St. Louis or Atago, and in St. Louis' case, you'll probably get the prototype research gun before you finish researching her, so then you'd just end up using that one instead.
Do you recommend aux gun or torpedoes on London retro, I just got her today
Definitely go with a DD gun. She's one of the few that have a very good aux gun efficiency so having a DD gun will provide a massive amount of extra DPS.
i wish i had ranbow torps D: kinda wish they put more of those event exclusive items in the core shop
It's a great time to get that sweet sweet rainbow torp with the current x3 core data event going on right now!
I totally agree that they should put those event items in the core data shop.
#azurlaneplsaddthisfeature
Think you should also check out the core data shop HE gun, the performance is very similar to the research gun
Yep, the core data HE gun is the 2nd best for a heavy cruiser, a little worse than the prototype 203mm but better than the purple 203mm.
I didn't mention it since there's many other better options to spend core data on, and I didn't want to encourage dropping 500 core just for a gun viable on two CA's.
prototype triple 203mm mk ix mount its good? thx
What does the T number on the upper right of guns mean? Sorry I'm new to azur lane.
T0 is a prototype weapon
T1 is the lowest rarity the weapon comes in
T2 is the middle rarity the weapon comes in
T3 is the highest rarity the weapon come in
So if you have a purple weapon that is marked T3 it means that a gold version of that weapon doesn't exist.
Perhaps I am late to the party, but what about using the core shop's "Prototype 203mm (Type 3) Mounted Gun" for HE heavy cruisers?
It's a worse version of the prototype HE gun, so I personally don't think it's worth buying for 800 core. Since there are very few HE heavy cruisers, you'll probably have the prototype HE gun (which is the best) by the time you want to use them.
If you can't wait until you get the Triple 203mm (Mle 1934 Prototype), then I guess you could buy it from core data, but there are many other things that are much more worth buying. (Ex: White/Black shell)
Sniffing Bremerton lead me to this vid
The purple 203mm SK C is probably the better choice; the gold is only marginally better but is very costly to upgrade.
Thx dude
2024 - damn miss this guy
Regarding Ibuki, why exactly are you using the Prinz Eugen gun instead of the prototype triple 203mm AA gun? it takes 50% longer to reload and Ibuki has an all out assault that procs every 6 main gun shots fired
Back when I was making this series of videos, I stated that I would not try to include the prototype guns as they were difficult to obtain for many players at that time.
If you have the PR Triple 203mm, it's better than the Eugen gun and you should definitely use it.
@@ItsAnderYT Allright, thanks for your answer!
Gj great guide
thanks!
what is ur 12-4 fleet comp for boss battle????
My boss fleet for 12-4 was:
(Backline) - Warspite Retro, Essex, Formidable
(Vanguard) - Portland Retro, Laffey Retro, Sandy Retro
The trick to beating the boss on 12-4 is to bring some sort of slow to stop Maya from Figure-Eight-ing around Choukai at 600 miles per hour. This can be most easily obtained by using the 800 core data Swordfish (818 Squad) on a carrier. Also make sure to save your Battleship salvos for until Maya reaches the middle of the screen where she is next to Choukai. This will allow you to damage both of them at the same time.
How can you get prototype triple 203mm main gun
I cannot find it either
Ander : next up on equipment guide is light cruiser featuring everyone's favorite
me: oh nice Belfast or Neptune or Helena or maybe Seattle
also Ander: Number one
and also me: oh I see you are also a part of her cult ha LOL
everybody's part of the Sandy cult, just that some will not admit it ;)
Great content as always. Hey, can you give me the comparison beetwen Heavy Cruiser and Light Cruiser. Seem not too differ in my eyes.
Okay, here's a quick list between the two:
Heavy Cruisers:
- Shoot with a slower, more damaging main gun
- Are slower moving than Light Cruisers
- Have more health and less evasion
- Medium armor
- Cost a bit more oil
Light Cruisers:
- Shoot with a more consistent, faster firing, but less damaging main gun
- Move faster than Heavy Cruisers
- Have less health but more evasion
- Light armor
- Cost a bit less oil
@@ItsAnderYT wow, thanks dude. I think it can be a good content for you. Keep supporting you.
@@willysurya3876 I could definitely make it a part of a fleet building guide in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!
Can i put an addition Light Cruiser's AA damage is high..especially that San Diego
your guides are great man, but you need to asume people dont have the "event gun". Some started late, some started early. like half of your setups are "use the event gun/torp/aux weapon"
Use the twin 203mm mle 1924, its pretty good
Do u only keep the ships u want with some 0lb ships to grind? U only have 160+ ships.
Do u not care about the tech points, or do the ships still count towards the thing after deleting them?
The tech points are saved after certain "checkpoints" are reached. For any ship, I'd usually get them up to at least Max LB, finishing the second checkpoint, and then I'd ask myself whether or not I want to keep them. Fleet tech isn't too big of a buff unless you're insanely dedicated to lvl 120'ing every ship (which will take forever), so I usually end up retiring the ships I won't use once I max LB them.
Of course this isn't really recommended especially in a waifu collector game where some ships are event locked, but I want to save my gems for a nice L2D skin instead of expanding my dock. The only two options then would be to either:
1. pay some $$, get some gems to expand (which i don't really have at this time so that's a no-go)
2. retire some ships I don't use/don't plan to use in order to open up dock space
@@ItsAnderYT Ic Ic
I also deleted Ships I didn't use Bcuz I didn't wanna spend Gems on Dock Space. I did this b4 Fleet Tech came in. I stopped AL from burn out and only came back last month. Didn't really understand how it worked.
I'm not a collector person, so I'll probably end up doing the same thing you're doing. Thx 4 reply
@@COFFEEGONECOLD no probs! After playing a ton of other gacha games, I've realized that AL is definitely most likely to burn someone out since you can be grinding for a whole day without anything stopping you because oil is usually plentiful. Most gacha games have a stamina system that forces people to stop unless they use premium currency to get more, but AL gives out so much stamina (oil) with every maintenance as well as the oil factory, so the grind never stops!
If you are not a collector and only keep practical ones you can, but if you are and a F2P or pay for skin only you better not. I don't keep a single 0LB ship since I think they are not that worth it in EN than it is in CN/KR, most event maps I want to farm are too hard for level 70 ships and solo Phoenix/Neptune can do the same as what 2-3 LB0 ships can.
Thanks for the guide
Sad to say i don't have the golden toaster gun i hope to we get a rerun soon
Yeah, they should have some sort of feature to allow us to farm those event guns, maybe through core data or something.
@@ItsAnderYTi guess another war archive
As someone who pretty only uses iron blood ships I though it was normal for heavy cruisers to have torpedos lmao
Ummmm, you know you can make it easier for you by sorting CA on docks first right? So that you don't have to struggle to find the ships, i mean. An advice for future videos
Good reminder, I'll use that for future videos.
What is that teddy bear auxiliary on St. Louis?
Also maya is very similar to takao with her double torpedo skill
Oh the cute bear? It's called Ankimo and it was an event item that could be obtained during the Hololive collab. It plays different music during a sortie and it has the same stats as the Advanced Boiler so I thought it'd be nice to put on her.
@@benflott5108 ah forgot about Maya again, I'll be sure to mention that in my comment
Is the twin 134mm bad?
If you are talking about the purple, yeah, it's pretty bad. Generally speaking for DD guns, you would want HE ammo, and this is one of the few that are AP ammo instead. AP shell modifiers for this gun are pretty bad. It has very low DPS for a DD gun.
You're better off using basically any other same-rarity gun.
Watching the thumbnail, I think it's more what should you take off with heavy cruisers.... The answer is your pants
You must equip your heavy cruisers with the most attractive and lewd skins available. It raises their happiness level and leads to better battle performance. Honest. Yes I do use Prinz Eugen and the Atago sisters a lot, why did you ask?
What about Azuma? or she isn't considered a heavy cruiser?
According to the Azur Lane Wiki, she's labeled as a "Large Cruiser".
?!?!??! idk what that means, someone please enlighten me
I'd definitely cover her in this video under the exceptions portion. She needs her 310mm prototype gun for maximum DPS, the rest of her equipment can probably follow this list with a special mention of the VH armor plating auxiliary that can be used on her to boost her tankiness even further.
@@ItsAnderYT Azuma isn't a heavy cruiser, she's a Super cruiser, a separate category and she's the only one in it. Think of it like a a battleship but for vanguard oh and broken AF of course. Main gun dealing Aoe dmg and 7k hp is FAIR isn't that right?
@@g.griffin1255 Oh, wow. That seems absolutely ridiculous. Thanks for letting me know.
@@ItsAnderYT ruclips.net/channel/UC8LCuUgwFlhwW2slbRKnYew this channel i found has JP AL shenanigans (dev 30 fdg, azuma, and rainbow gun pvp) you should see it for future reference :)
@@g.griffin1255 I'll definitely be sure to take a look!
Would you ever make a video on how to grind for coins properly?
That can definitely be a good short video idea! Honestly, there's just a few ways to grind for coins.
Make sure you:
- Do your daily missions EVERY day (this is where you get the most gold the fastest)
- If you have extra oil lying around, consider doing the 1200 oil commission to get 3000+ gold
- If you're in the mood for grinding instead, definitely farm stage 7-2 for the four nodes that can drop gold
and most obviously,
- Upgrade your "Merchant" in the academy to the maximum level you can get it at, it produces free gold automatically even when you're sleeping
who is the thumbnail ship?
Bremerton I think
I noticed you didnt mention the core data CA HE gun?
The core data HE gun is still good and is the 2nd best for an HE Heavy Cruiser, but I personally did not include because I do not think it is a good buy for 800 core.
If you use the purple HE gun then you won't be missing out on too much, and if you have the prototype HE gun, it will automatically replace the core data gun. There are only a couple CA's that benefit from using an HE main gun, so most of the time it is not worth buying this for 800 core.
@@ItsAnderYT true as in early game it is more worth it to save core data for rainbow torpedo, white and black shells instead as they don't have replacements
@@gagecoalbrace3 Yep!
@@ItsAnderYT then there is unlucky sobs like me that still dont have Seattle gun and needed a decent HE gun fast and have some spare core data so chaching
Actually im oretty sure the gold oigen gun is a stage clear reward
No roon? :(
I really don’t like using CAs so which one should I focus on? And how can I find a SAP gun?
If I were to pick a CA, I'd definitely go with any of the T0 or T1 event cruisers like Baltimore, Bremerton, the PR ships, or if you don't have any of them, Portland Retrofit. They may not seem appealing in the early-to-mid game due to their not-so-smooth damage curve as they shoot every couple of seconds, but once Chapter 13 hits, you'll be thankful to have at least a couple of them due to their great survivability and damage output. The only SAP gun was during the French event, which I didn't even get.
@@ItsAnderYT Italian event(Empyreal Tragicomedy). Also, London retro(VERY good at farming B series war archive events due to her secondary basically being a gunboat DD), Minneapolis for soloing.
@@Grimmwoldds shoot my bad. people keep calling the gun the baguette gun and when i think of baguettes I think of French people lol.
Super solid recommendations too, they're also worth focusing on as well.
@@Grimmwoldds i just updated my comment, thanks for pointing that out once again
Algérie has 175% torpedo efficiency...I'm afraid we have to use MATH.
Baltimore actually has a skill that forces the gun to fire AP. Since most HE guns actually reload faster (i think) thank AP guns i think its pretty reasonable to use a HE gun on balti instead? Someone please input as well because i dont have balti myself
yes. Batli converts her ammo. Therefore, a more powerful HE gun with high reload will be better. I have 120 Batli.
Basically pick the highest DPS, which if I remember correctly of the non-pr guns is the Eugen gun
g a m e r l o l i
Woow why do you have a ton of Gold Boxes?
i play a lot, do all my dailies, and haven't opened them in a while.
@@ItsAnderYT OMG! Senpai Ander noticed me! I'll do the same too and save up gold crates. I recently subscribed to your channel and I've watched a bunch of your videos and I gotta say that I find your guides and tips far more informative and easy to understand especially with you narrating it. Keep up the good work!
HOW CAN YOU GET THE GOLD MAGNETIC TO EZ.
You get them from Gold/Purple Ironblood boxes.
@@ItsAnderYT i know that but after a year of playing, i only have 2 magnetic quad. while i have a dozen of twin 203mm sk c
you think your luck is bad? at least you actually pulled some golds. i just opened 2 tem pulls and got all purple.
Dang Azur Lane is just not on your side, first with missing the Javelin Idol skin and now with bad gold box luck. At least things can only get better from here!
@@ItsAnderYT dont worry. after sending this comment, i bought the 2 boxes form the merit shop and had 2 remaining from my last lot and pulled 3 in a row. a baracuda, seafang, and the pompom AA gun. but yeah still kicking myself for missing the skin UmU
@@jordansnow1715 ayy good stuff! we don't talk about those dark times regarding idol javelin.
How about sub equipments xD nxt vid?
I want to try and upload videos in the same order as my tier list guides in order to make the guides more streamlined. So this would mean that my upload schedule will probably be:
Light Cruisers -> Destroyers -> Submarines
The submarine equipment guide will definitely come soon, stay tuned!
Olryt ill just have to wait then
He had bunch of ship
omg, i clearly don't play this game enough, i only have 1 version of that gold St. Louis gun, and somehow you have three of them. i have started playing this game since the opening of NA server, but i was on and off.
11:09 Portland sus
NIGHTENGALE
*SHOUT OUT TO THE WASHINGTON SERVER*
Am I the only one who thinks he is going a bit too fast?
It would be awesome if he just put a quick and simple graph at the end of every section to explain some more
Bruh in all your videos it sounds like your smiling lol
OwO where is Roon-san?
I sadly didn't get her yet so I can't showcase her ;(
First.
congrats!
First
you guys can't both be first lol
BUT YOU BOTH BEAT TOM!
First
you guys can't both be first lol
you beat tom tho
Nah ur Shiti duki i was first