I'm sure you've tried this, but just in case you haven't, if you fully close your rebound adjustment, you can often times remove the spring with no problem even while the bearing upgrade is on. the rebound knob itself unthreads from the eyelet body when opening the rebound adjustment, so closing it moves the knob close to the eyelet body and can make JUST enough room to remove the spring. I was furious when I first got my super deluxe coil equipped rocky mountain Slayer that has bearings and I though I couldn't change my coil without disasembling the bearings, but lo and behold it is possible!
@@jedmtb Let me know if it works! because to be fair, i have the rocky mountain made bearing hardware, so it may or may not work on the rockshox hardware. and that's good info to know!
The most exciting shock right now imo… all the features that make a difference for a coil shock - HBO, negative spring, etc all for a relatively low price. The collar should have a grub screw so you can lock it in place though
Nice video! I use a Bomber CR in the exact same dimension on my Scott Ransom with a CK Valt 500 lbs spring. It's almost exactly 800gr in total including eyelet bushings. Was a bit disappointed to see that the bearing upgrade requires disassembly to change the spring. I have a Rocky Mountain with a Cane Creek DB Coil IL, and I've mounted a Rocky Mountain bearing kit that is small enough that you can easily slide the spring over it.
@@michaelmcdermott9445 I use coil on both my 2018 Instinct and 2022 Altitude, and it works super well. The linkage on those bikes is spot on for coil :)
@@michaelmcdermott9445 Yes, 230x60 is the correct dimension. You can also get a 230x62.5 or 230x65 and limit the travel with a plastic washer behind the bump stop. If you're buying a used shock, make sure you get one with standard eyelets. You will also need the eyelet removal tool from RM to move the eyelet hardware over from the old shock to the new one.
@@jamble7k The eyelet diameter of 12.7mm is the same on Fox and RS so in theory it should work but I’ve not got any Fox shocks on hand to see if there is any clearance issues.
User manual: www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/user-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/rear-suspension-user-manual.pdf Service Manual: www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-super-deluxe-coil-service-manual.pdf
The higher end shocks have slightly more controlled dampers but unless you ran them back to back I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference.
There are some third party options for bearings too... RWC makes a really nice needle bearing adapter that's less bulky and doesn't require any special tool, other than a standard set of drifts to remove the stock hardware.
@@jedmtbhow hard do you ride and how well is the 500pound spring working im 110 kg and just got 600pound is that right not sure if im bottoming out its specialized enduro
The 500 spring has fine in the winter but I normally go up 550 in the summer with the increase in speed. Does the 600 get you the correct sag? are you running any hydraulic bottom out?@@shaunschneeberger6301
I'm sure you've tried this, but just in case you haven't, if you fully close your rebound adjustment, you can often times remove the spring with no problem even while the bearing upgrade is on. the rebound knob itself unthreads from the eyelet body when opening the rebound adjustment, so closing it moves the knob close to the eyelet body and can make JUST enough room to remove the spring. I was furious when I first got my super deluxe coil equipped rocky mountain Slayer that has bearings and I though I couldn't change my coil without disasembling the bearings, but lo and behold it is possible!
I didn’t know that, I’ll give it a try when I next change the spring. Very helpful thank you.
@@jedmtb Let me know if it works! because to be fair, i have the rocky mountain made bearing hardware, so it may or may not work on the rockshox hardware. and that's good info to know!
I’ve been using this shock for some time. Fantastic!
The most exciting shock right now imo… all the features that make a difference for a coil shock - HBO, negative spring, etc all for a relatively low price. The collar should have a grub screw so you can lock it in place though
Nice video! I use a Bomber CR in the exact same dimension on my Scott Ransom with a CK Valt 500 lbs spring. It's almost exactly 800gr in total including eyelet bushings. Was a bit disappointed to see that the bearing upgrade requires disassembly to change the spring. I have a Rocky Mountain with a Cane Creek DB Coil IL, and I've mounted a Rocky Mountain bearing kit that is small enough that you can easily slide the spring over it.
I've got a 2021 Altitude and looking to go with a coil too. Does it make the bike feel too linear or is it still progressive?
@@michaelmcdermott9445 I use coil on both my 2018 Instinct and 2022 Altitude, and it works super well. The linkage on those bikes is spot on for coil :)
@@AndreasRavnestad thank you! I've read it takes a 230 x 60 mm shock. Is this what you have on yours? I appreciate the reply 🙏
@@michaelmcdermott9445 Yes, 230x60 is the correct dimension. You can also get a 230x62.5 or 230x65 and limit the travel with a plastic washer behind the bump stop. If you're buying a used shock, make sure you get one with standard eyelets. You will also need the eyelet removal tool from RM to move the eyelet hardware over from the old shock to the new one.
that bearing adapter - do you know if that fits other shocks? the fox 8x30 bearing kit in particular creaks a lot and wondered if this is better
@@jamble7k The eyelet diameter of 12.7mm is the same on Fox and RS so in theory it should work but I’ve not got any Fox shocks on hand to see if there is any clearance issues.
cant find the install manual ? where did you see it bro?
User manual: www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/user-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/rear-suspension-user-manual.pdf
Service Manual: www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-super-deluxe-coil-service-manual.pdf
@@jedmtb I ment the manual for the bearing but no worrys ive found it now ,its on the vivid air manual lol thanks anyways bro
My mistake, I am glad you found it.@@DAMGUNHAR
how does this compare to something super flash like a Push ElevenSix or an Ohlins TTX22?
The higher end shocks have slightly more controlled dampers but unless you ran them back to back I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference.
do these springs break in a little?
Yes normally after about 10hrs
Did I miss what bike you are mounting it on ❓
It’s being mounted on a Pivot Firebird, I’m currently working on that video now.
Do you think its possible to install the bearing hardware with a shifting spanner instead of the rockshox special tool ?
Yes but you’d have to very careful as the flat surface isn’t very big and could round off if it slips.
@@jedmtb yea i am a little concerned about that. Thanks for your reply
There are some third party options for bearings too... RWC makes a really nice needle bearing adapter that's less bulky and doesn't require any special tool, other than a standard set of drifts to remove the stock hardware.
If you remove the rebound dial you can change the spring without removing the hardware 😉
How do you removed the rebound knob mine does not move
its quite difficult! just wind it all the way in and the spring will fit over it@@I.Ivanov.
@@DAMGUNHAR thanks
unless you have a 40mm bushing at the bottom... nope.
So you tell me i cant change the spring without removing the bottom hardware
what's your weight???
I'm about 220lbs with riding kit on.
would be great seeing comparison these two shocks in reality 🤘😎
@@jedmtbhow hard do you ride and how well is the 500pound spring working im 110 kg and just got 600pound is that right not sure if im bottoming out its specialized enduro
The 500 spring has fine in the winter but I normally go up 550 in the summer with the increase in speed. Does the 600 get you the correct sag? are you running any hydraulic bottom out?@@shaunschneeberger6301
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