Everyone here saying these people need more training missed the point where they aren't meant to be operating in these conditions. THIS ISNT THEIR JOB. These aren't RNLI crewmen, these are Fire and Rescue Workers who were assisting the RNLI station due to incredible short staffing, they aren't trained to operate powerboats in anything more than a flowing river or a flooded street. The fact they still managed a rescue is a testament to their determination.
Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places. The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar. I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
For those commentators who say the firefighters crewing their inshore rescue boat "need more / proper training, or that this is not their job and they should leave it to the RNLI: Jersey Fire & Rescue Service has been operating inshore rescue boats in the seas around Jersey since May 1960 - three years before the RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963. The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly at sea. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places. The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. Jersey Coastguard is entirely land-based, it has no boats or helicopters. JFRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar. I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS.) :
I would say they are deffo trained 👍 very skilled and brave tbh, I live and brought up around the sea onwned boats, surfed and fished all my life, trouble is we have people commenting that probs live in citys, i instantly seen the line off rocks ahead off them, if he had gone straight and not side on to that wave they would've hit the rocks then probs game over, you can see the pilot constantly looking were the rocks where and waves as he skillfully turned the rib around to get the other crew member in the water and you can see the bloke at the front pointing to his left to make sure they knew were the rocks were as they made a second run, skills 👍👍
Deffo trained and brave tbh, i live and brought up on the sea owned boats, surfed and fished all my life, did no one else see the line off rocks going across in front off them as they was going out ?? I did instantly and the pilot had to go side on else he would've hit them then game over, you can see the crew member pointing to the rocks, so the pilot knew were they where on the second run and what skills as he turned around to get the other crew member 👍👍 top blokes balls off steel
Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963, after Lt. Cdr. Stogdon (RNLI) visited Jersey Fire Service to see how they operated IRBs.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places. The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar. I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
Linda T the RNLI team on Jersey were being supplemented by Fire Service (who are not trained in this sort of rescue work) because the majority of the RNLI crew resigned in protest over the poor treatment of their Coxswain by the RNLI management. He is right, never go side on to the waves.
@@joelw4715 Jersey Fire Service most certainly do train for this, and have been operating inshore rescue boats since 1960, three years before the RNLI had their first IRBs after Lt. Cdr Stogdon visited Jersey to see how their Zodiac IRBs coped in the sea. Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places. The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar. I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
Basic Drills all wrong in this video. From the start the boat wasn't pulled head to sea. Crew should be sat inside the boat not on the sponsion. Man overboard drills didn't happen. thankful all they do but need some training from all the crew.
Wow as if this family haven't had enough to deal with, add a few arseholes on top. Why would anyone lie about the death of their child. Do you have any compassion DJ Primax? Google her name you'll see that it's not a lie. Mr Godfray, my condolences to you and your wife, and I'm so sorry what you've had to go through with all the nasty heartless comments on social media.
They do have "proper training." Jersey Fire Service's firefighters have been operating inshore rescue boats in the open sea for three years longer than the RNLI first had IRBs
This crew wasn’t trained properly. It is important to hit incoming waves head on not side on. I respect what they do but they should have proper training.
These aren't RNLI volunteers, they are Fire and Rescue workers. The RNLI crew that would normally do this job were on strike/resignation and thus were being supported the the FRW who do not have much if any training for this type of rescue.
@@freakyfishguy1692 Not true. At the top of this page, the date is August 2016. The RNLI crew resigned in 2017. On the night this video was filmed, St. Helier lifeboat was involved in the same search, under the coxswain who was at the centre of the crew's dispute with the RNLI. St. Helier's ILB (an Atlantic) was also involved, but neither RNLI boat could get as far inshore as the Fire Service.
@@annalouis4915 yes, yes I would. This crew made countless simple mistakes that you'd expect a sea cadet or a clubie to make. From the video it looks like sea state 3, maybe 4 at a push and they are putting the boat beam on to white water. Utterly ridiculous.
@@darylwegrzyn4053 they aren't the RNLI and are NOT trained to carry out these rescues. They were actually trying to save my step cousin. They are fire rescue that's all and they were assisting the RNLI who were on strike. You clearly do not know what our waters are like around Jersey so you can't make that assumption of.how well you would do, once was a GP that was trying to help. Yeah, I'm sure you would have done so well
Jersey Fire Service (now Jersey Fire and Rescue Service) has been operating and training in IRBs in the open sea since 1960. RNLI had no IRBs until 1963 after a visit to Jersey by Lt. David Stogdon (RNLI) to evaluate the Fire Service's IRBs.
Jersey Coastguard has no boat or helicopter. Jersey coastguard receives emergency calls and allocates Jersey Fire & Rescue IRBs and/or RNLI or JLA lifeboats, as well as other rescue craft e.g. French helicopters and lifeboats as appropriate.
Everyone here saying these people need more training missed the point where they aren't meant to be operating in these conditions. THIS ISNT THEIR JOB.
These aren't RNLI crewmen, these are Fire and Rescue Workers who were assisting the RNLI station due to incredible short staffing, they aren't trained to operate powerboats in anything more than a flowing river or a flooded street. The fact they still managed a rescue is a testament to their determination.
They did a good job for what they did I respect them but they could have done better without any training
Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places.
The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar.
I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
For those commentators who say the firefighters crewing their inshore rescue boat "need more / proper training, or that this is not their job and they should leave it to the RNLI: Jersey Fire & Rescue Service has been operating inshore rescue boats in the seas around Jersey since May 1960 - three years before the RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963. The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly at sea. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places.
The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. Jersey Coastguard is entirely land-based, it has no boats or helicopters. JFRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar.
I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS.)
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Bloody amazing
I would say they are deffo trained 👍 very skilled and brave tbh, I live and brought up around the sea onwned boats, surfed and fished all my life, trouble is we have people commenting that probs live in citys, i instantly seen the line off rocks ahead off them, if he had gone straight and not side on to that wave they would've hit the rocks then probs game over, you can see the pilot constantly looking were the rocks where and waves as he skillfully turned the rib around to get the other crew member in the water and you can see the bloke at the front pointing to his left to make sure they knew were the rocks were as they made a second run, skills 👍👍
RNLI Tough...Condolences to Ms Noble...
It wasnt RNLI
Guys take the waves head on!
Deffo trained and brave tbh, i live and brought up on the sea owned boats, surfed and fished all my life, did no one else see the line off rocks going across in front off them as they was going out ?? I did instantly and the pilot had to go side on else he would've hit them then game over, you can see the crew member pointing to the rocks, so the pilot knew were they where on the second run and what skills as he turned around to get the other crew member 👍👍 top blokes balls off steel
Utter hero`s
Disgraceful, they should leave it to the right service, lifeboat
Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963, after Lt. Cdr. Stogdon (RNLI) visited Jersey Fire Service to see how they operated IRBs.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places.
The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar.
I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
bad conditions, small boat great job who says the opposite weren't there in a small boat in those conditions.
I'd gladly take the same size boat in those conditions. RNLI D-Class, IB1 or EA16 no worries.
Too short no results🙄😳
Why do their helmets say fire on them?
Stay into it not side to.
RNLI are highly trained, I'm sure there was a reason why he was doing this...
Linda T the RNLI team on Jersey were being supplemented by Fire Service (who are not trained in this sort of rescue work) because the majority of the RNLI crew resigned in protest over the poor treatment of their Coxswain by the RNLI management. He is right, never go side on to the waves.
@D Marino Yes. But as Joel says i believe this was the fire service instead of RNLI, hence Fire written on the helmets.
@@joelw4715 Jersey Fire Service most certainly do train for this, and have been operating inshore rescue boats since 1960, three years before the RNLI had their first IRBs after Lt. Cdr Stogdon visited Jersey to see how their Zodiac IRBs coped in the sea.
Jersey Fire Service has been operating inshore rescue boats around Jersey since May 1960. (RNLI introduced IRBs in 1963.) The crews of our two fire service IRBs train regularly around the Island. Saying that "they aren't trained to operate their boats in anything more than a river" is entirely untrue. There was no "incredible short staffing" in what is now called Jersey Fire and Rescue Service or in either of the two RNLI stations in Jersey. There are no "flowing rivers" in Jersey, and on the rare occasion that our Island's streets get flooded, the depth and area of flooding is nowhere near as great as you are used to in other places.
The Fire Service were not "assisting the RNLI station" they, and the RNLI lifeboats in Jersey, were called out in their own right by Jersey Coastguard. JFIRS's D-Class type boats are better suited to searching close inshore than any of Jersey's lifeboats, which at the time were two RNLI Atlantics and one Tamar.
I agree with you that the conditions were extreme and that their determination is admirable. They did an extraordinary job that day - note that two firemen were washed out of the boat and one was swept away and swiftly recovered. Later, the propeller struck an underwater rock during this service. (I'm not a fireman nor do I have any connection with JFIRS, but I have a long association with the RNLI.)
brave men
2:07 could see hand in a water on the left
Leave it to the R.N.L.I
Basic Drills all wrong in this video. From the start the boat wasn't pulled head to sea. Crew should be sat inside the boat not on the sponsion. Man overboard drills didn't happen. thankful all they do but need some training from all the crew.
They aren't trained for this, they aren't RNLI
This isn't the RNLI these are fire crews assisting the RNLI, they did a bloody amazing job and put themselves at risk. Unfortunately it was too late
Did they save her?
No sadly my daughter died in the sea
Kim Noble for real?
Brian Godfray really? I don't believe you
Wow as if this family haven't had enough to deal with, add a few arseholes on top. Why would anyone lie about the death of their child. Do you have any compassion DJ Primax? Google her name you'll see that it's not a lie. Mr Godfray, my condolences to you and your wife, and I'm so sorry what you've had to go through with all the nasty heartless comments on social media.
Brian Godfray Sorry for your loss.
Hey mr boat driver your suppose to hit the waves head on lol
If they had proper training, it wouldn't be a ''battle".
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Your a fool! Do you have any idea the training RNLI does? Me thinks not! Your just an arm chair quarterback.
@@lindanwfirefighter4973 these aren't RNLI crewmen, they are Fire and Rescue workers
They do have "proper training." Jersey Fire Service's firefighters have been operating inshore rescue boats in the open sea for three years longer than the RNLI first had IRBs
This crew wasn’t trained properly. It is important to hit incoming waves head on not side on. I respect what they do but they should have proper training.
Could have just called a helicopter lol I
How do you know one was a available?
Jersey doesn’t have a coast guard helicopter, it would’ve had to come from the french coastguard
There is nothing funny about the death of my daughter lol inappropriate
Not very well trained
Yet without hesitation they jumped into action!! They have my fullest
respect and gratitude! Thank you boys!
I do respect them but they could have easily died they need more training
These aren't RNLI volunteers, they are Fire and Rescue workers.
The RNLI crew that would normally do this job were on strike/resignation and thus were being supported the the FRW who do not have much if any training for this type of rescue.
I know I still respect what they did but they could have done better even without training
@@freakyfishguy1692 Not true. At the top of this page, the date is August 2016. The RNLI crew resigned in 2017. On the night this video was filmed, St. Helier lifeboat was involved in the same search, under the coxswain who was at the centre of the crew's dispute with the RNLI. St. Helier's ILB (an Atlantic) was also involved, but neither RNLI boat could get as far inshore as the Fire Service.
It's shameful when you can count the mistakes made by a rescue service.
They aren't RNLI volunteers
@@freakyfishguy1692 i never said they were?
Oh and I guess you could do a much better job??
@@annalouis4915 yes, yes I would. This crew made countless simple mistakes that you'd expect a sea cadet or a clubie to make. From the video it looks like sea state 3, maybe 4 at a push and they are putting the boat beam on to white water. Utterly ridiculous.
@@darylwegrzyn4053 they aren't the RNLI and are NOT trained to carry out these rescues. They were actually trying to save my step cousin. They are fire rescue that's all and they were assisting the RNLI who were on strike. You clearly do not know what our waters are like around Jersey so you can't make that assumption of.how well you would do, once was a GP that was trying to help. Yeah, I'm sure you would have done so well
Wheres the fire , u need the coast guard did someone ring the wrong number 😂
Jersey Fire Service (now Jersey Fire and Rescue Service) has been operating and training in IRBs in the open sea since 1960. RNLI had no IRBs until 1963 after a visit to Jersey by Lt. David Stogdon (RNLI) to evaluate the Fire Service's IRBs.
Jersey Coastguard has no boat or helicopter. Jersey coastguard receives emergency calls and allocates Jersey Fire & Rescue IRBs and/or RNLI or JLA lifeboats, as well as other rescue craft e.g. French helicopters and lifeboats as appropriate.