@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad." AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point. The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory. The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
@@zodwraith5745 Issue is 3060 has 192-bit bus and 12gb GDDR6 VRAM. It is 1440p card then now 4060 has 8gb 128-bit bus which was in 3050 8gb. They made each card 30% faster, But instead of passing that to customers. They decided to rip off and make everything cheaper for them. It's 2024, Consoles have 16gb shared vram. So on PC, you'll need 12gb vram and >20gb ram to match.
@@Dazzxp I love how you clowns act like it's a personal attack on you when Nvidia shorts you on vram, but magically pretend that AMD didn't do the exact same thing with the 7600, 6600, and even _worse_ with the 6500xt and 6400. After all, THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING!!1! RIGHT?! GTFO with your fake outrage for a card you had zero intentions to buy in the first place.
@@Dazzxp why put 12 GB in ram if it can't handle games to the maximum... in some cases, with certain games that require a lot of virtual memory even at the minimum, it's good, but I don't know what the graphics performance will be
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
The 4060 was basically made for fortnite, and other online shooters, 8GB VRAM won't allow for proper frame generation, you can still use RT on 8GB's but some games will do horrible texture swaps and some others drop significant FPS, DLSS helps a little, unless on performance, and FG doesn't do much cause 8GB won't let it properly The 3060, isn't much slower, and AMD FG saves the GPU when it struggles, also amazing RT performance, a lot of VRAM headroom over 8GB cards, so a lot safer, Path Tracing ultra with DLSA Balanced on CP2077 gives at least 30 FPS, with FSR3 FG it goes at least +50 FPS, and it doesn't look that bad, unless you are very sensitive to high FPS and notice the littlw ghosting effects, but that ain't going to knock you out or hurt the eye. Even the 30FPS on Path Tracing look so good and its so smooth that it won't feel like 30 FPS But the 4060 could give a considerable difference in high FPS shooters Everything's fine on 4060 unless Nvidia FG The 4060 Ti 16GB works excellent in terms of Frame Generation
19:42 The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes. the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too. Best decision ever. I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB. Having a blast with my 3060
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was. 4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM. Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.
@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
@@TtotheCizzel 3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023) Same performance. Lower Vram. You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060. No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite. That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards. The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
last september of 2023 the rtx3060 12GB price was $6480 pesos or $360 in Mexico just for having 12GB vram so I bought the 4060 for $5400 or $300(zotac twin edge OC), but I can see other markets have different prices and supply.
I bought a ZOTAC 3060 12GB a couple months ago for less than 6,000 mxn, but ended up paying a bit more because MercadoLibre offered 6 months without interest, all 4060 I tried to search for were 6500 or more.
Really odd you move your avatar around all the time just make it smaller and leave in the bottom left corner its really hard to know where we are supposed to be looking when things are darting around the screen
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
I have a 4060 for 2 days now, had a 1070 the last 5 years. BO6 with my 1070 with extremly low settings 70 FPS, 4060 with DLSS and high settings 140 FPS FullHD. I´m happy, nothing comparable in a price range of 300 Euro
Are you sure that your fps counter actually counts the frames generated by dlss FG? Some fps counters have this issue and this could explain why, in some cases, it seems that fsr3fg works way better than dlssfg on the 4060
I just ordered a pc from black friday for 699 with a 4060 and a 14400f mind you I'm coming from a pc that has a 1650 9400f. I mainly don't care for ray tracing right now. My main game i play is stuff like dbd, cod warzone, fornite, and emulator stuff. I do have a 1440p 144hz monitor. I wouldn't mind just playing 1440p high. Should I be ok till I save up for a 4070 ti super?
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all. You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5 12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay 3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price. Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu. My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it. Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
for video editing work (weddings shot in 4k 10bit hevc 422) with intel + igpu which is one is better? also i currently have a 1660 super, not really stingy on gaming but I will most likely still run dual 1080p monitors.
Sir 2nd hand GPU 3080 IS FOR THE PRICE OF 4060 so what will you recommend considering how much will the Idle be when I am using a browser with 20 tabs on 2-4 monitors at the same time for 6hrs and after that 2-4 hrs gaming... What according to you will be the consumption as I can multiply my Electricity unit price...
@@makkienleong6865 If VRAM is powerful then 10GB at this price will work. This Horsepower destroys 6700xt 12GB. i am only considering Electricity bill I got an answer to undervolt the GPU.
I don't know why everyone hates 4060. For 1080p is on average 20% faster than 3060 and that it's all that matters. It's a 1080p gaming card at the end of the day. For higher resolutions one should aim for at least 4060ti and up
I think thsy don’t like the vram and the thing is people dont hate it, its just feels like unnecessary card its only decent for people getting a new build without previous pcs or a really outdated gpu
@@albertdart6216 4060 is not a crap. Just not a big upgrade from 30. So yea if somebody is going from 30 to 40 it's super shit. But he's upgrading from 16 series; that's a big enough upgrade.
@@albertdart6216 Depends on what games people play. AAA newest release? Yea then have to fiddle around in settings. Esports titles at 1080p? These 60 series are fine. My friend recently got 4060 laptop and he's having fun in Cyberpunk. Runs better than my PC with 3060. Where I have to use FrameGen mod for 120fps, he's getting it by default without any mod. So yea in the end I would say it's about getting a better deal. If there's a huge price difference, 3060(I did it because there was almost 100$ difference) but if at same price, then 4060 isn't a bad card for 250$. But if somebody is spending 300$ or more; seriously guys consider used GPUs. There are so many better deals out there.
With the price going crazy of : GPU , new unoptimized games and there needs for a very large ssd ..........a lot of people don't upgrade ther GPU and buy and play old games (bugs free , low price ..ex). Graet video and content .
Just enable your Nvidia Broadcast and crank up noise suppression or use Krisp to get rid of any background audio. I teach animation at colleges and when I'm doing my online classes, Nvidia Broadcast is my go-to. I've got cheetahs in the house and my neighbor is an opera singer - just saying.
Guys is it a good budget upgrade for me bcuz I might upgrade so rn I'm using integrated graphics will it be good for me to change to rtx 4060 and i5 12400f
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
you said don't upgrade GPU now, wait for 50xx. but i'm afraid better i get now for "standart" price 7xx or 40xx GPU's than 50xx for "new normal" price 12 gb 50xx GPU
I just bought my 3060 12gb upgrade from rx 590. Pair with Ryzen5 5600. As we know 50series card will coming. Using this 3060 for 4-5years then will upgrade to 50series card in the future. 40series cards is great card but i would rather see 50series cards or AMD 8000 cards ❤.
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will. The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳. Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳? Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
People criticize nvidia for sticking with 8gb even in the 50 series, but i think at this point, they should, because otherwise devs might move on from supporting 8gb cards and it's disastrous for many nvidia users, a problem that was caused by nvidia, sure, but i think they have to at least do one more generation with 60 series having 8gb of vram and 70 series having 12, plus devs are typically lazy and they would use more vram if it was available to them if it decreases the need to optimize
A Xbox series S and PS4 have the same amount of memory of a 4060 Ti, a GPU that costs +400€ and PS5 has 16GB. That would be like if the GTX 960 or 1060 launched with 512Mb of VRAM. Were not talking about optmization, devs have had access to 8GB RAM for decades, VRAM isn't dev lazyness it's corporate greed from Nvidia.
Its a great video but with one sticking point when he says 40fps feels good on a VRR display but 95% of VRR panels have a VRR range of 48Hz and Up, so 40Hz isnt in the VRR range, causing the Vsync judder effect. Many youtubers seem to forget this and give bad advice on 40Hz caps. Other than that bit, its a great video.
No, most vrr displays will go into low framerate compensation mode below 48hz so if it hits 40, the monitor will run at 80 and display each frame twice, staying in sync.
@@danielowentech But most dont thats the thing, as I said, lots of panels sold out of the hundreds available still shudder under 48Hz, so many panels exist that do not have LFC, some do but its not the majority of models. LFC is a godsend feature, but the monitors people (normies) buy, most dont have it as a feature. You can literally check most models sold at any time, its pretty clear. People should always check when purcasing a monitor of course, as with anything, but LFC isnt as common as people would hope, and 40Hz looks bad in those circumstances. Daniel could have mentioned his 40Hz statement is because LFC and I wouldn't have even commented.
The only thing I got out of this test is that Nv is holding back their middle to high-end cards by not putting 12+GB Vram on them. Nothing new unfortunately, been like this for a looong time. Which is why I saved up money for the 5080 (hopefully) this time around. Games are easily hitting 8GB Vram usage now, even without RT which also uses more VRAM. If I can't afford the 5080 and the 5070 has only 12GB Vram, i'll consider getting a 2nd hand 4080 instead, based on performance.
Games that use more than 8gb vram at 1080p are kind of an outlier, it is good to know but your decision to make any purchase can't be based on outliers unless your use case is exactly that outlier. 4060 is obviously not an 1440p card, so that is also not something to look in detail about
@@walkitlikeitalkit.4 That's not an argument for why they should get it... lmao. You're literally just saying "new = better" which is sheeple gamer tech company fanboy logic.
horizon forbidden west vram usage very high settings is 13+ gb vram so i guess the 12gb gpu version is the good choice finaly"Kind of atleast"! 8-13gb vram is what i have seen this game use during gameplay on my rtx3060 12gb i5 12400f 16gb 3200mhz desktop pc.. So how will it be in the future for us or them who use a 8gb vram gpu vs the slower 12gb versions of rtx 3060 gpus?? will 12gb not matter and 8gb be enough still or will the 12gb get better as they told me when i bought my prebuilt pc w rtx3060 12gb (They told me lat year late 2023 that it is best to get a slower 12gb vram, pc instead for the future)but is it finaly true yes? no? mayby?? Thanks for another great video(well they are always great)
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
In call of duty, selecting the basic setting , turns down render resolution as well. So, the actual competitive settings is basic + render resolution set to 100%.
Hi. Well donne but remember, the combos are a great factor. For example if you use a I5 12400 F(with the 4060) you l see magic happening.. Low temperatures and higher FPS. Of course, never under 32 gb. Maybe Ryzen 7800X3D is stronger than the i5 12400F but with the combo works better.
Bought a 3060 12gb in the middle of the 'pandemic'/gpu shortage for 470 euro, while they where going for 800-1000 euro's. Even though i swapped it for a 4070 16gb, i never had any regrets, the 3060 served me very well for years and is still in my secondary pc.
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Nvidia with the 5000 series I bet:
"So you're saying 8GB is enough. 8GB again it is!"
Nah 5060 will have 7.5 GB of vram just to piss people of while the last 0.5 GB will be slower like it was on the GTX 970 :)
Fuck Nvidia.
"No, memory bus doesn't affect performance"
Nvidia: Alright then, we give 96-bit this time around. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy 64 is enough, my 6500XT can show you that, AMD know even better
@@Jakiyyyyy when 3 and 4GB GDDR7 chips release, you can be sure AMD will release a 32-bit memory bus GPU 🤣
You’d expect a 4060 to be better in every way than a 3060 rather than a little better with occasions where it’s a lot worse.
Hey 3% is 3%
@@bumperxx1Like Jensen Huang says ‘The more you buy, the more you save.’ By which he means ‘just buy a 4090 you f*cking peasants!’ 😂
Not everyone is playing this much graphic intensive AAA TITLES
@its_not_the_Ishu it was a joke 😃 anyone with a 3060 should wait for a 5060 or something else. But if they are still running 1080p 60hertz then ride it till it dies
The sad part is when you realize this uplift was one of the _better_ ones of the generation. Look at the 3060ti>4060ti or 6800xt>7800xt. Many cards gave pathetic uplift or got price hikes that made them an even _worse_ value. Even with price drops there's nothing that stands out and even the best case scenarios can't muster up better than "well I guess it's not _that_ bad."
AMD and Nvidia were perfectly happy for decades making 25-30% margins. Neither them or their shareholders want to go back now after enjoying the 50-60% margins of the crypto boom.
the naming of nvidia gpus is a scam, its actually a 4050 vs 3060, and if you keep that in mind, the performance that we see, makes way more sense unlike nvidas pricing
@@__-fi6xg Radeons naming this gen is also a scam. They have 70 and 80 class competitors with 90 class naming.
@@Sp3cialk304 Amd flopping all over. Rx 7600 shouldn't even exist but they wanted you to waste money, They could have offered from the rx 7700/rx 7700xt 16gb at 300$ the rx 7800xt at 399$ the rx 7900gre at 450$ the rx 7900xt at 599$ the rx 7900xtx at 699$, And amd would have won this generation easily and made tons of money but decided to prioritize money.
@@jasonvors1922 I like AMD but I think they spend to much time listening to the vocal minority. Rdna2 was good, but refusing to modernize rdna3 was a bad idea. The vast majority of gamers care more about modern features and how they actually play the game than raster only native benchmarks
Both AMD & Nvidia did sandbag & downgrade this current gen! maybe things will be better on next gen will see!
you have it the other way around. The vast majority have no clue what all those "features" (gimmicks) are @@Sp3cialk304
It is the 4050 actually they're just ripping you off for 300 bucks
This gen has bad naming. The 60 series cards from both compaines should be 50 cards. Radeon has 70 class cards with 80 and 90 class naming.
funny enough the 4050 exists on laptops but if you cant go for 299 of the 4060, your only option is the 3050 6gb at 190. Greedvidia.
You can apply this too with the Rx 7800xt and 6800xt. Both have very small difference in performance. Techpowerup even has the rx 6800xt leading over the 7800xt in horizon forbidden west.
What?
@@adlibconstitution1609 Not really. The 7800XT came at a much lower price point.
The 4060 came at almost the price but even with less memory.
The 3060 was a 1440p card, but with the 4060 you only get a 1080p card and still have to lower textures.
Fact that we are still comparing 3060 vs 4060(50) in 2024 is another proof how shyte is 40 series and particulary it's pricing.
Compare the 2060 to the 3060.
It not shit really, i can confirm the power to performance is insane on the 40xx series cards, it all depends on what you upgrading from. In my case i had a rtx 2060 then upgraded to a rtx 4070 super. Basically was a 130% increase in performance but if you have a 30xx series card i would suggest wating for new cards to come rather. All i can say is the 4070 super is a beast and even though it was not meant for 4k gaming i can play 80% of the AAA titles on 4k med/high settings and still hit +-60fps. So for me was money well spent.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152 Exactly, none of these trolls compare the 2060 to the 3060🤣🤣
It’s sad that 4060 ti is kind of the default 4060.
@@eltonwaynewilliams4152
Upgraded from 2060 6gb to rx 6800 16gb and never looked back in ngreedia direction.
Nvidia made the 4090 to keep the performance lead and mindshare but reduced the die size of all the other models to save up capacity for AI chips. 4080 is 40% smaller than 3080, 4070 is 25% smaller, 4060 is 40% smaller. The 4090 is just 3% smaller than the 3090.
that's an information that i didn't know about
And yet the 4080 and 4070 still blow their predecessors away, whereas the 4060 doesn't.
Bruh, they're using a different process entirely. 4000 series doesn't use the Samsung 8nm series they had in the 3000 series, this time they're using TSMC's 4nm process nodes. There's a lot wrong with the lower end rtx 4000 series but that's just not a way to compare this.
The 3060 getting 90 FPS at Very high settings while the 4060 is getting 30 FPS with frame generation is hilarious. Now I see why Nvidia blocked frame gen on 3000 series gpu's... Thank you AMD!
It's a famous phrase, the more you buy, the more you save.
4070 should've been the entry level. I went from 3060 to a 4070 super. Very happy with that upgrade.
yes me to asus 3060 phoenix to a asus 4070 super oc evo
Its people like you who upgrade after 1 generation using max settings that drives the prices up and complain lol.
@@nickwu4384 what? New gen games are fast unreal enginge 5 does not love 3060 and games like horizon for b west hell blade enz enz settings to medium then is time for a new gpu . 1050 ti was long time good now useles
4070 is better.
@@hardstylboy You don’t have to play the latest games.
It is clear that even for an entry level GPU at 1080p, only 8 Go VRAM is not acceptable anymore to the play the latest games if we want a true 60 fps with decent 1% low.
To be fair you need to keep in mind GPUs take years to design and Nvidia is surely deep into the designs on the generation _after_ 50 series. No one was crying about 8gb of vram back when these were designed because no games needed it without cranking it to 4k that none of these were ever designed for. But still they really _should_ have been planning ahead better.
@@zodwraith5745 It was clearly planned... the fact the 3060 had 12GB ram on a 192bit bus, what nVidia decided to do was using only GDDR6X memory so 8GB on a 128bit bus. If they used slower GDDR6 memory but 12GB on 192bit bus. It's planned obsolescence there is ZERO excuse for such practices!!! Nvidia knew this after all they work closely with a lot of the developers they KNEW THIS WAS COMING!
@@zodwraith5745 Issue is 3060 has 192-bit bus and 12gb GDDR6 VRAM. It is 1440p card then now 4060 has 8gb 128-bit bus which was in 3050 8gb.
They made each card 30% faster, But instead of passing that to customers. They decided to rip off and make everything cheaper for them.
It's 2024, Consoles have 16gb shared vram. So on PC, you'll need 12gb vram and >20gb ram to match.
@@Dazzxp I love how you clowns act like it's a personal attack on you when Nvidia shorts you on vram, but magically pretend that AMD didn't do the exact same thing with the 7600, 6600, and even _worse_ with the 6500xt and 6400. After all, THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING!!1! RIGHT?!
GTFO with your fake outrage for a card you had zero intentions to buy in the first place.
@@Dazzxp why put 12 GB in ram if it can't handle games to the maximum... in some cases, with certain games that require a lot of virtual memory even at the minimum, it's good, but I don't know what the graphics performance will be
Daniel, are those thumps your kids knocking at the front door repeatedly because they can’t get in 😅😂🤣😅😂🤣
Lol! I record in the basement and there are hardwood floors directly above me in the living room where the kids like to play.
@danielowentech It's fine, as a father of two I can say kids playing are one of the things it's worth living for, a bit of stumping won't ruin the video if the content is interesting 😊
I just bought a 4060 Dual OC to fit into a Mini Itx build for my son and it runs really well @ 1080p. He only plays Fortnite, Destiny 2 etc and gets consistently 144 + frames with high settings. The games look good and are smooth on his 144hz monitor. And, the card runs very cool, is whisper quiet, and draws little power. Yeah, it isn't what it should be but it works well.
Still your kid also play really low needed gpu games, even my 1660 super run them in high 1080p
The 4060 was basically made for fortnite, and other online shooters, 8GB VRAM won't allow for proper frame generation, you can still use RT on 8GB's but some games will do horrible texture swaps and some others drop significant FPS, DLSS helps a little, unless on performance, and FG doesn't do much cause 8GB won't let it properly
The 3060, isn't much slower, and AMD FG saves the GPU when it struggles, also amazing RT performance, a lot of VRAM headroom over 8GB cards, so a lot safer, Path Tracing ultra with DLSA Balanced on CP2077 gives at least 30 FPS, with FSR3 FG it goes at least +50 FPS, and it doesn't look that bad, unless you are very sensitive to high FPS and notice the littlw ghosting effects, but that ain't going to knock you out or hurt the eye.
Even the 30FPS on Path Tracing look so good and its so smooth that it won't feel like 30 FPS
But the 4060 could give a considerable difference in high FPS shooters
Everything's fine on 4060 unless Nvidia FG
The 4060 Ti 16GB works excellent in terms of Frame Generation
Definitely perfect for those games, no need to have anything more.
It's is almost half power draw comparing 3060. Perfect for itx builds especially low profile version of 4060.
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The 4060 is not loading ultra textures. Its hard to notice graphically on youtube but its evident in the vram usage discrepancy, thats more than 3GB difference.
@@lanelesic That's how Avatar handle vram. It doesn't remove anything from the allocated vram pool until it has to. So it reports high allocation but isn't actually using all of it. RDR2 will do the same thing, you can get it to show over 16gb of vram allocation at 1440p, but it's not using close to that.
@@Sp3cialk304 you will still experience horrible 1% lows tough
@@__-fi6xg you don't
@@Sp3cialk304 The premade benchmark doesnt take into account players agency. That aggressive usage/ allocation method would show up in gameplay as microstutters and frametime spikes.
@@lanelesic read the conclusion of Techpowerups Avatar performance review. The way they word it may be easier to grasp. It's similar to mip mapping. It won't hurt performance and the difference in detail would be on super far away assets, where you don't have enough pixels display the difference anyway. Basically how nanite works for poly count, but with textures. If you had a huge screen and higher resolution than current cards could run you may be able to see a difference, but currently you can't because 2 pixels can't occupy the same spot anyway.
Overall, I'd still rather have the 4060, but I would recommend waiting for an upgrade for those with a 3060. The upgradability is just too weak at that level.
I have no gpu but seems like a bad time to buy anything...
@@Zombie1012080ti. A beast that can even be modded until 20gb~ it's 200-300$ used for me. Basically 3070 but has more vram
@@swilleh_2080ti is underrated in my opinion, with or without being modded it’s a really good gpu for its price.
@@exocleats6937except you should avoid Turing because of dying VRAM chips (unless you can find one cheap enough where you can pay for new chips)
why would you buy a 4060, you get all the nvidia advantages with the 3060. Its the best nvidia card for the last 2 generations.
I work at a computer store & 4060 sell like hotcakes.
the majority of casual buyers don't care about youtubers opinion. they always buy new products from nvidia, just like iphone lol
Even if it's worse like
From iPhone 13 Pro Max
To iPhone 14 Plus
Thats exactly the problem, not lack of competition, this - the casual buyers.
If your budget is £300 then these are the two options you have from Nvidia, 4060 or 3060. 4060 looks okay but then you realise it has on 8GB VRAM and then you look over to the 12GB 3060 but you have to sacrifice DLSS/FG and power if you want to go with that one, for me what saved the day - the best option imo - £300 for a brand new RX 6750 XT and you get the 12GB VRAM and faster performance than both the 3060 and 4060.
@ $300, Arc 770 is also in your price range and has 16GB of RAM. Just need to make sure the games you want to play work on it.
@@glenndoiron9317if you buy a graphics card you should expect all games to play on it otherwise why are you buying a graphics card
Okay that's great I'm glad you chose a 6750 XT but what monitor and CPU do you have again everyone is saying buy this for this price buy that for that price what is your system Jesus freaking Christ it's like I heard the other day a 7700k Skylake chip is still good no it's not but it works for my 1080p okay yeah great 60 FPS so again what did you pair with that graphics card CPU RAM and monitor
And also you lose DLSS. 🤣
@@Jakiyyyyy yeah dlss 3.0
2:12 What are you talking about? We can see there at max texture quality that Horizon doesn't consume more than 8 GBs of VRAM.
Upgrade from 750 ti, I found Colorful 12 GB rtx 3060 Triple fan in the used marked at just 17k INR, bought it instantly. I was a little sceptical about not buying a 40 series for its better Frame generation abilities. Hardly did I know even FG needs vRam too.
Best decision ever.
I could have gone with 3060 ti but it was 8 GB.
Having a blast with my 3060
Better Decision!
I kinda feel scammed that reviewers said 3 years ago 8 gb vram would be enough for non-4k gaming.
It doesn't need more approval. Just Last of Us alone already proved it more games will be VRAM demanding like that in the future but people are still ignorant. 🤷🏻♀️
Hardware unboxed said it will be an issue in a couple years when talking about 3070 vs 6800
3060 becoming with every year better and better buy because it was always targeting mid/high settings and that vram helps it to achive that
The 3060 rarely uses its VRAM.
3060 is the new 1060
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Indeed this thing won't die soon and will be relevent for ages ahead
Kurumi ❤
@@S10hype araa araa
I told people if you want want almost max settings 1080p in modern games you need more than 8gb for most modern games. We are finally in the gaming era of pushing games to need more than 8gb while barely noticing the beefed up graphics 😅
and guess what, most likely the 5060 will feature 8gb of vram as well
I remember gtx 1060 6gb having troubles with witcher 3 max settings. Honestly shilling nvidia is dumb, but idk what people expect from a XX60 gpu. "It should've been 200$" yeah no shit, I'd prefer it to be 100$, but that's just not how it is or ever was.
4060 is capable of running 1440p high with DLSS (which in this resolution has no more visual artifacts than just TAA, if not less), is it really considered bad?
Ya I can't even run cyberpunk maxed out with a 6600xt since 2.0.....uses more than 8gb of vram. And that's with no rt.
About time!
The thing is the most graphically advanced game up to date - Hellblade 2 - does not need more than 8GB of VRAM. While much older games, like Horizon FW (2022) or Ghost of Tsushima (2020) somehow need more than 8GB of VRAM.
Why do these older games are using VRAM less effectively?
14:40
how's on 1440p both cards show the same VRAM usage but the Ram usage on the 3060 is higher? I thought it's supposed to be the other way around
8:10 this is soooo the 4050 Nvidia isn't even ashamed
@@davidfg2917 250 bucks and less would've been fair, 200 now that's a bargain for 8gb vram and entry level
@@davidfg2917 "The More You Buy, The More You Save"
@@KN-592 You can get a 4060 for $200 dollars. Daniel and other tech youtubers other than the Toasty Bros don't understand the concept of looking for a bargain at a local shop.
4060 even has the chip with xx107 naming, that used in xx50 cards.
@@skeleton0_067 based
It’d be nice if people started showing some 4k in low or medium settings as the 6750xt does 4k good in some games and considering it’s the 4060 competition it would be nice to see (we know the 6750xt is better than the 4060) not everyone wants a 4k @ 120fps set ups, some people are fine at 30-60 fps especially if they come from consoles at a budget
Nobody with 4k is buy low end GPU my friend. I had a cool 😎 1070 with 8gb got a new LG oled 48inc Cx gsyinc tried Games like control and cyberpunk and call duty and the card tanked. 23fps 30fps low settings it's just not going to work.
And another thing if you're fine with 30 fps to 60 FPS that's garbage I don't see past 60 FPS well you know what buddy get a real 120 and I guarantee you see your mouse move better in fact I would argue 165 should be the goal because you're not going to notice much difference between 120 and 165 but for the price you can get into a nice monitor at 165
@@bumperxx1 I have a graphics card that can do 4k perfectly fine I’m talking about those who want an entry 4k experience. My 2nd pc does it just fine on my LG oled. I’m busy enjoying the gameplay than focusing on fps like everyone else.
@stevegonzales527 yeah but eye candy 🍬 cost you frams and hertz so in 4k you don't want 30fps or some crap 60 fps should be standard.
Only psychopaths are fine with 30 fps
The 12 vram is what sold me (I am a VR gamer)
So glad I picked the rx6750xt last second over the rtx4060. Would have been looking like a clown in 2 years.😂
100%. A couple years ago my buddy was up for a GPU purchase and he was SURE he wanted a 3070 but I convinced him to get the 6700xt. In 2024.. he doesn't realize just how useful that add vram is with the latest games he plays on 1440p display. I hear no complaints like we hear with 8gb GPUs now. All hail the vram value king AMD! Shall they continue to thrive by providing what Nvidia fails to.
@@christophermullins7163hopefully nvidia release 50 series with bigger vram for xx70 lineup if not im switching side. (3070ti user here)
@@christophermullins7163 i would get amd but i dislike FSR shimmering and fsr3 is only in some games
Well again all these buying decisions I'm going to have to be made with regards to what monitor you're running and the technical specs of that monitor not to mention a CPU that won't bottleneck it. I hear people still have 7700 K Skylake chips that's not going to cut it with a modern GPU. Old but bumper 6 corse four threads is still cool 😢. I would love to see these graphics cards he's testing with 1080p 360 hertz you're not going to get it. I'm glad you convinced your friend to buy an AMD graphics card I just hope he didn't have like a g-sync monitor 175hertz of so you got something that wont get you high frams and hertz with that monotors spec. You're still not giving the details of his system what do you guys not understand about specific components to work with specific components
@@jayking33497 ok but for the same price you can get an amd gpu that doesnt require upscaling.. except RT.
Dan can you make a 3060ti vs 4060ti version of this video 🙏
It'll be the same thing as this video, just a little higher fps.
@@pf100andahalf nope. The 3060Ti has only 8GB and there are 16GB versions of the 4060Ti
@@rob4222 well the 4060ti 16gb doesnt make any sense as the pricing nor the perfomance makes any sense to have 16gb
@@rob4222 The 4060 ti 16gb is faster when 8 gb isn't enough but it's still too expensive so basically worthless unless you can find one used. The 4060 ti 16gb is horrible value.
I have a 16 GB 4060ti and it's been great. I was very reluctant to buy it because of bad reviews and didn't want AMD. Coming from a GTX 1070 since 2016 it's been a huge upgrade. Horizon Forbidden West gets 120-150 fps with DLSS and Frame Gen @1080p. I tried using the new GPU with my old i7 6700k and it was a shit show. Went with a 12600k and DDR5 ram and I'm very happy.
Extremely informative thank you much better than the typical split screen comparison you typically see in youtube.
Just curious but why isn't background play available for members only videos. That's kinda strange imo
No idea! Seems like a big oversight if YT doesn't enable that. Not sure if that is something I have any control over on my end. I didn't change any settings other than publish this for Channel Members only.
@danielowentech all good just thought it was strange that it doesn't allow background watching or listening on member on videos. Everything else is fine. But none the less u keep doing u I love the way ur free in ur videos and don't care to do a video with ur kids running about. I'm a father myself so believe me I get it.
what if i dont have one, first time buying which should i choose? i can only fit dual fan in my pc case. I want to use it for rendering in sketchup and gaming for valorant only, also i want to pair it with ryzen 5 7600x.
Rendering need vram, so 3060
Yeah if I had to pick one I would buy the 3060/12 over the 4060/8
@EveryGameGuru considering the price and how close these cards are in performance, I'd rather have the one with a more stable frame rate and frame time. Fps is only as good as it's stability.
4060 was never meant for 1440p gaming. Just saying. 🤷🏻♀️
Also I see games maxing out the 8gb vram even on 1080p, insane they only went for 8gb. 12 gb should be the standard.
@@Jakiyyyyy huh who said?
4060 = Still one of the worst graphics cards Nvidia has released.
why does everyone hate on it so much?
@@TtotheCizzel
3060 (2020) vs 4060 (2023)
Same performance. Lower Vram.
You overclock the 3060 and you get maybe another 10% over the 4060.
No intergenerational jump in performance. Rather the opposite.
That's why the 4060 is one of the worst cards.
The 4060 was supposed to be a 10GB RTX 3070.
4060 Ti says hi lol
The 4060 can be found for under 300 brand new that fits an old system with weaker cpu without changing the psu.
@@nickwu4384 that's what a 4050 is for.
Can you test the 6600 at 1440p with FSR/XeSS vs 1080 native?
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS I AM LITERALLY RESEARCHING THESE 2 AGAIN OMG THE TIMING, THIS IS PERFECT. (i swear if you are about to make a video about 3060 ti vs 4060...)
3060ti destroys the 4060. If you can access a 3060ti or 3070 both completely invalidate the 4060 and cost less used.
last september of 2023 the rtx3060 12GB price was $6480 pesos or $360 in Mexico just for having 12GB vram so I bought the 4060 for $5400 or $300(zotac twin edge OC), but I can see other markets have different prices and supply.
I bought a ZOTAC 3060 12GB a couple months ago for less than 6,000 mxn, but ended up paying a bit more because MercadoLibre offered 6 months without interest, all 4060 I tried to search for were 6500 or more.
Thank you for the great comparison. You provided just enough detail and did not go too deep into the weeds. Exactly what I needed. Great job 👍🏼
so for a new build, should i buy the 4060 or the 3060? Or else go amd? Please let me know what i should do
Really odd you move your avatar around all the time just make it smaller and leave in the bottom left corner its really hard to know where we are supposed to be looking when things are darting around the screen
Aren't there more games that support Nvidia frame gen? It's the major selling point for the 4060 so we should test it and/or whether the VRAM is enough to do frame gen.
Why is VRAM on 4060 smaller than older RTX 3060
Ngreedia
@@halistinejenkins5289 Average Mediocre Dogshit.
Because it would be better than 3070
I have a 4060 for 2 days now, had a 1070 the last 5 years. BO6 with my 1070 with extremly low settings 70 FPS, 4060 with DLSS and high settings 140 FPS FullHD. I´m happy, nothing comparable in a price range of 300 Euro
Are you sure that your fps counter actually counts the frames generated by dlss FG? Some fps counters have this issue and this could explain why, in some cases, it seems that fsr3fg works way better than dlssfg on the 4060
Why didn't u include rtx 4060 frame generation
I just ordered a pc from black friday for 699 with a 4060 and a 14400f mind you I'm coming from a pc that has a 1650 9400f. I mainly don't care for ray tracing right now. My main game i play is stuff like dbd, cod warzone, fornite, and emulator stuff. I do have a 1440p 144hz monitor. I wouldn't mind just playing 1440p high. Should I be ok till I save up for a 4070 ti super?
As someone whos upgrading from a rtx 2060 6gb, which card is the better purchase in mind of the future too. Should I go 3060 12gb or 4060 8gb.
i think it doesnt make any sense to play those 60's cards at 1440p, just do what nvidea wants and play in 1080p
Arc 750 or rtx 3060 for gaming editing blender???
Excellent comparison, love the various resolutions, settings and turning on dlss.
Can you test the rx6750xt
Will 4060 will perform same with r5 5600
so basically
3060 for higher graphic +DLSS
4060 for higher fps+frame generation, set lower graphic under 8gb vram
Which one would be better for gta 6 considering the last two games like GTA 5 and RDR2 had ram, vram leak issues. Don't say none. Of course low medium settings or even high as it would be a story mode game so as long as FPS is stable and more than 30, it should be good. I recently bought one for my system as this is the best money can afford and can't get even 1$ (The price difference is 40-55$ BTW here) higher in budget considering 6000 series is rare here.
@@radger6392 i actually already played all those games causing issue for 8gb vram card on my vega 56 in 1440p, guess what? its not that big of a deal. This is not the era of 2gb vs 4gb where the game wont run at all.
You can just turn down textures/shadows from ultra to high and all those useless volumetric fog/cloud to medium and use dlssQ the vram will be way under 8gb and run smoothly and still look as good as ps5
12gb is nice to have but if you were to push all those graphic to ultra the fps gonna be low anyway. You will eventually find yourself playing on medium low settings for alan wake 2 to have that smooth gameplay
3060 vs 4060 each trade blows so its really up to you, but i guess i will go for 4060 for more fps and lower tdp at the same price.
Just go with which one have the best deal
@@loucipher7782 I think 10gb for both the GPUs would've been the best. Then nvidia would not have launched the 8gb version for the 3060 and hearing people cry about 4gb less vram for the 4060. But anyways I would've never bought the 3060 if the price difference wasn't 40-55$ and 6000 series (6600xt or higher) were readily available for the same price. I would've somehow forced them to my 550w PSU and ignored the bottleneck..maybe. I really don't mind ray tracing and stuff. But still was a big upgrade from rx 550 2gb
@@radger6392 i think its an architecture thing that made 10gb not possible or too expensive to produce. 6600xt is still 8gb 6700xt 12gb might be too much for your psu.
My vega 56 8gb is already 6 years old and i am still capable of playing all AAA titles at 1440p tho now down to High/Medium with fsrQ made it possible to squeeze a few more years out of it.
Anyway the best game on PC right now with 100++ hours content is Baldurs Gate 3 and it barely eat 6gb vram, also if you are into Jrpg like Persona it take even less vram and GTA6 for pc wont be release until 2026, 2027 for Steam. People is just crying wolf at the 4060 as AAA titles that break 8gb barely last over 10 hours play time, they are all linear game with lots of bling blings that can be turned down and still look amazing. 12gb is nice to have but not necessary for such a budget tier card
but i guess anything is better than a rx550 lol have fun gaming.
you are definetely wrong cus i played every game on max settings with 4060 also when you use dlss the vram usage decreases
why did you exclude cyberpunk from the benchmarks :(
for video editing work (weddings shot in 4k 10bit hevc 422) with intel + igpu which is one is better? also i currently have a 1660 super, not really stingy on gaming but I will most likely still run dual 1080p monitors.
3060. You need the vram for it
I have no VRAM and I must frame gen
Sir 2nd hand GPU 3080 IS FOR THE PRICE OF 4060 so what will you recommend considering how much will the Idle be when I am using a browser with 20 tabs on 2-4 monitors at the same time for 6hrs and after that 2-4 hrs gaming... What according to you will be the consumption as I can multiply my Electricity unit price...
3080 10GB is also at borderline. Look for 3080 12GB instead.
@@makkienleong6865 If VRAM is powerful then 10GB at this price will work. This Horsepower destroys 6700xt 12GB. i am only considering Electricity bill I got an answer to undervolt the GPU.
Don't forget that the Operating System and more than one Monitor also use Vram!
I don't know why everyone hates 4060. For 1080p is on average 20% faster than 3060 and that it's all that matters. It's a 1080p gaming card at the end of the day. For higher resolutions one should aim for at least 4060ti and up
I think thsy don’t like the vram and the thing is people dont hate it, its just feels like unnecessary card its only decent for people getting a new build without previous pcs or a really outdated gpu
Daniel, please test the Arc A770 against the 4060 Ti again.
Please what will be your take on upgrading from gtx1660ti to 306012gb or to 40608gb.which one will be a better upgrade
If same price then 4060. If huge difference in cost; then only 3060. I have one, 12gb varient.
@@the.ranpan Stop recommending this crap called 4060 to him, buy the 12 GB 3060!
@@albertdart6216 4060 is not a crap. Just not a big upgrade from 30. So yea if somebody is going from 30 to 40 it's super shit. But he's upgrading from 16 series; that's a big enough upgrade.
@@the.ranpan Miss Vram, recommend 3060 12 GB, not 4060!
@@albertdart6216 Depends on what games people play. AAA newest release? Yea then have to fiddle around in settings. Esports titles at 1080p? These 60 series are fine. My friend recently got 4060 laptop and he's having fun in Cyberpunk. Runs better than my PC with 3060. Where I have to use FrameGen mod for 120fps, he's getting it by default without any mod.
So yea in the end I would say it's about getting a better deal. If there's a huge price difference, 3060(I did it because there was almost 100$ difference) but if at same price, then 4060 isn't a bad card for 250$.
But if somebody is spending 300$ or more; seriously guys consider used GPUs. There are so many better deals out there.
Ohh great point at the start with those bad 1% lows linked to the vram limit, I hadn't seen it that clearly
How about both TI versions?
With the price going crazy of : GPU , new unoptimized games and there needs for a very large ssd ..........a lot of people don't upgrade ther GPU and buy and play old games (bugs free , low price ..ex). Graet video and content .
is it good to go for 6750 xt in 2024 because it is in end of life and drivers will be not coming in future. or i should go for 4060 ti . pls help me
Ofc 6750xt. Or push to 7800 xt.

Msi Rtx 3050 Ventus 2X XS /2X OC 8gb 128bit GDdr6/ 6GB 96bit DDR6 graphics card gaming LHR
is it ok for budget friendly?
go with the 3060 12gb ventus 3x. $300 usd
Just enable your Nvidia Broadcast and crank up noise suppression or use Krisp to get rid of any background audio. I teach animation at colleges and when I'm doing my online classes, Nvidia Broadcast is my go-to. I've got cheetahs in the house and my neighbor is an opera singer - just saying.
should i get the 4060,i found a deal where both the 4060 and 3060 are the same price,any recomandations?
If you will play 1440p get 4060
both not very good cards but 4060 much better than 3060 even with less vram in my opinion (i have 4060)
Guys is it a good budget upgrade for me bcuz I might upgrade so rn I'm using integrated graphics will it be good for me to change to rtx 4060 and i5 12400f
4060 is not bad if you aim for 1080p gaming with low watt usage and much cool temperature.
Upgraded from 1650 to 4060 8gb. Never been happier. Mostly playing games FPS and MOBA games competitively
Made me curious about the 3060 ti vs 4060 ti that has same vram.
I love this haha. I hear the kids and I can picture them running around like my little ones do. Also the PnP of you pointing everything out at first I thought I might not like it but I actually prefer it now. Thanks for the video sir!
This is going to be interesting as the RTX 5060 is rumoured to only have 8GB of GDDR7.
GDR6 actually. What a waste!
What is good about GDDR7? Unless it has texture compression stuff then maybe 8GB would make sense. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Jakiyyyyy just higher memory bandwidth.
And the same shitty 128 bit memory bus the 4060 has...
how about comparing top-tier cards from 20** series to like 4060(70)?
also i wonder why you never talk about energy consumption.
you said don't upgrade GPU now, wait for 50xx. but i'm afraid better i get now for "standart" price 7xx or 40xx GPU's than 50xx for "new normal" price 12 gb 50xx GPU
I just bought my 3060 12gb upgrade from rx 590. Pair with Ryzen5 5600. As we know 50series card will coming. Using this 3060 for 4-5years then will upgrade to 50series card in the future. 40series cards is great card but i would rather see 50series cards or AMD 8000 cards ❤.
After wathcing the video i came to the cconclusion that greedvidia sucks. Save us intel, because amd never will.
The 4050 and it is a 4050 should be 200 and the 3060 12 gb should be 180 and the 3050 should be retired.
or call it the "3030"
Sooner or later, Intel is gonna catch up. 🤷🏻♀️
yeah well, this video is about the 4060 not the laptop 4050
@@-1solrak they are the same.
Why do people expect a 100% in performance each gen? Do they think Moores Law is still going or something?
complaining about complainers
@@paulyboy29 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
@@nickwu4384 well thats definitely a comment nick
@@nickwu4384 complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers complaining about complainers
I really like the narrative. Its more helpful 😊👍
It is funny how people complain about nvidia and still buy their products
lmao they don't have any choice !! 😂🤣
indeed. my last two gpus were amd . if you want change, you have to vote with your wallet.
Bingo
nobody complain about nvidia except amd shills
It's funny how people complain about Nvidia but magically ignore the 7600 is also only 8gb. Then when AMD makes the 7600xt and Nvidia the 4060ti 16gb people bitch cause they wanted special edition redesigns for free.
just use lower textures settings and all is solved. 1080p can use medium quality texture nowadays.
No one deserves to buy a new generation video card to run horrible textures. Stop making excuses for this ridiculous graphics card.
I own both a n RTX 3060 12GB and an RTX 4060 8gb in my htpc gaming setups. I don’t use frame generation at 1080p/1440p (with RTX 4060) so I’m fine with using FSR frame generation ‘IF’ needed…… especially with FSR 3.1 coming out now in games and modders, I’m sure, adding tweaks for a drag n drop into older titles etc🤤🤯👍🥳.
Saying that it appears that newer game engines like UE5 uses vram more efficiently than older engines so maybe, just maybe, Nvidias ram skimping (8gb gpus) was known by them from initial engine testing for gpus 🧐😳?
Imo if you’re a gamer who uses a lot of texture mods etc on older games …. I’d go with the RTX 3060 12GB …..otherwise get the RTX 4060 for the added performance….. but that’s me 😁👍
you are objectively wrong. My gpu is using 10gb in most modern games, sometimes even over 12 like in RE 4 with raytracing and dlss in 2k. 8gb is definitely not enough for 1440p gaming, especially not with rt or any other nvidia feature that needs vram to run.
Cope harder. No one should buy the 4060 lol.
Ive noticed this too. The console port games seem to be the VRAM hogs. The UE5 games typically have very reasonable VRAM usage.
@@__-fi6xg I don’t use RT or FG on my lower end gpus which l assume your GPU Is notably stronger than these and can actually use these features (RT & FG). Anything requiring power I run on my RTX 4090 or RTX 3080 or RTX 4070.
@@ltg8382 yep I try when ever I can🥳😉. I’ll just game on either my RTX 3080, RTX 4070 or RTX 4090 when I actually want to use Ray tracing or Frame Generation.
i had a 1660 super for 3 or 4 years and my 4060 comes in tomorrow :) but if i had a 3060 i would of wait until 5060 or 6060 to upgrade
looking at the power consumption in rtx 4060 is crazy
People criticize nvidia for sticking with 8gb even in the 50 series, but i think at this point, they should, because otherwise devs might move on from supporting 8gb cards and it's disastrous for many nvidia users, a problem that was caused by nvidia, sure, but i think they have to at least do one more generation with 60 series having 8gb of vram and 70 series having 12, plus devs are typically lazy and they would use more vram if it was available to them if it decreases the need to optimize
A Xbox series S and PS4 have the same amount of memory of a 4060 Ti, a GPU that costs +400€ and PS5 has 16GB. That would be like if the GTX 960 or 1060 launched with 512Mb of VRAM. Were not talking about optmization, devs have had access to 8GB RAM for decades, VRAM isn't dev lazyness it's corporate greed from Nvidia.
@@MrEditorsSideKick i agree, but now they have to stick to it, at least until next gen of consoles
The amount of editing in each video is outstanding
yes i like the c2 and grid but the colors and models are abit too outdated, to be paired w raytracing lul
Its a great video but with one sticking point when he says 40fps feels good on a VRR display but 95% of VRR panels have a VRR range of 48Hz and Up, so 40Hz isnt in the VRR range, causing the Vsync judder effect. Many youtubers seem to forget this and give bad advice on 40Hz caps.
Other than that bit, its a great video.
No, most vrr displays will go into low framerate compensation mode below 48hz so if it hits 40, the monitor will run at 80 and display each frame twice, staying in sync.
@@danielowentech But most dont thats the thing, as I said, lots of panels sold out of the hundreds available still shudder under 48Hz, so many panels exist that do not have LFC, some do but its not the majority of models. LFC is a godsend feature, but the monitors people (normies) buy, most dont have it as a feature. You can literally check most models sold at any time, its pretty clear.
People should always check when purcasing a monitor of course, as with anything, but LFC isnt as common as people would hope, and 40Hz looks bad in those circumstances. Daniel could have mentioned his 40Hz statement is because LFC and I wouldn't have even commented.
The only thing I got out of this test is that Nv is holding back their middle to high-end cards by not putting 12+GB Vram on them. Nothing new unfortunately, been like this for a looong time. Which is why I saved up money for the 5080 (hopefully) this time around. Games are easily hitting 8GB Vram usage now, even without RT which also uses more VRAM. If I can't afford the 5080 and the 5070 has only 12GB Vram, i'll consider getting a 2nd hand 4080 instead, based on performance.
Games that use more than 8gb vram at 1080p are kind of an outlier, it is good to know but your decision to make any purchase can't be based on outliers unless your use case is exactly that outlier. 4060 is obviously not an 1440p card, so that is also not something to look in detail about
I already bought the 4060 2 days ago. Whatever at least it draws less power and runs cs2 thats all i need anyways
Yeah it is up to your gaming needs. If you only play esports then it's enough
Coming to conclusion after reading all the debate about the two graphics card.
Which card should i buy for my intel i5 12400f?😭
4060. 3060 is like 2 gen older now
@@walkitlikeitalkit.4 That's not an argument for why they should get it... lmao. You're literally just saying "new = better" which is sheeple gamer tech company fanboy logic.
@@YuYuYuna_ Check out the results. I don't talk sh!t
Which one is better for 4k video Editing - rtx 3060 or rtx 4060 ????
I will use premier pro , after effects
horizon forbidden west vram usage very high settings is 13+ gb vram so i guess the 12gb gpu version is the good choice finaly"Kind of atleast"!
8-13gb vram is what i have seen this game use during gameplay on my rtx3060 12gb i5 12400f 16gb 3200mhz desktop pc..
So how will it be in the future for us or them who use a 8gb vram gpu vs the slower 12gb versions of rtx 3060 gpus?? will 12gb not matter and 8gb be enough still or will the 12gb get better as they told me when i bought my prebuilt pc w rtx3060 12gb (They told me lat year late 2023 that it is best to get a slower 12gb vram, pc instead for the future)but is it finaly true yes? no? mayby??
Thanks for another great video(well they are always great)
240$ for used 4060 Aorus with 30 months of warranty ?
In the Avatar test, GPU memory usage on the 3060 goes way beyond 8GB, and yet the 4060 doesn't use more system RAM, which suggests to me that the game reduces some quality settings when not having enough RAM, rather than spill into CPU RAM. This might be the reason the 4060 has more of an advantage in this game over the 3060 compared to other games.
They just love bragging 4060 because less power consumption, but less vram memory than the predecessor 3060.. With 12gb vram memory
In call of duty, selecting the basic setting , turns down render resolution as well. So, the actual competitive settings is basic + render resolution set to 100%.
Has anyone even played Avatar Frontiers of Pandora? I feel like nobody talked about it ever
It was so childish i quited at the begining, hard to incarnate an alien teen in rebelious period
On amazon it seems more people are buying the rtx 3060 over the 4060.
Hi. Well donne but remember, the combos are a great factor. For example if you use a I5 12400 F(with the 4060) you l see magic happening.. Low temperatures and higher FPS. Of course, never under 32 gb. Maybe Ryzen 7800X3D is stronger than the i5 12400F but with the combo works better.
Good enough for the new gta coming out ?
Bought a 3060 12gb in the middle of the 'pandemic'/gpu shortage for 470 euro, while they where going for 800-1000 euro's.
Even though i swapped it for a 4070 16gb, i never had any regrets, the 3060 served me very well for years and is still in my secondary pc.
4070 16GB?
@@vvhitevvizard_ he either meant 12GB or 4070 tie super
@@vvhitevvizard_ there is only one 4070 that has 16gb, meaning im talking about the 'ti super' by definition.
Rtx 4060 vs 6650xt ultimate benchmark plz