@IPSECMERLIN Merlin definitely after when you start doing dungeons only, you should do dungeons like brd arena/anger for the chest and trinket from early 50s and get the rest of the stuff later on, and stop questing entirely.
this is awsome , you should do one for each class people love this stuff with classic coming out, also you should do guides on how to get some of the head enchants and stuff like that or how to get all the buffs to go raid. love your content mate :)
Doing a guide on how to get the enchant is actually a really good idea. I might do that tomorrow. Thanks for the tip. I might also come out with a consumables guide for fury warrior as well.
@@ExecutusGaming You are using the same logic as Hunters claiming Ashkandi. So Warriors can conveniently roll on 3 times the amount of armor pieces as Rogues. I'm telling you, your ass will be despised if you do this.
Re: Chest Slot. Savage Gladiator Chain is also very fucking good for your pre raid set, dropping from Ring of Law in BRD. Though with the caveat that it only has the good stats after AQ 40/Dungeon 2 set quests when they did the dungeon loot revamps.
I know fury is the top dog (dual wield to be specific), but is arms still a viable choice? Do people on private servers allow an arms warrior to raid, or is the dot limit too problematic for most people now? I remember back in vanilla, I ran arms and could top DPS in ZG and MC (not on every fight, but any fight where I could just continue beating on something the entire time), and was still competitive in BWL (at this point, fury was on top and rogues and I were neck and neck a lot of the time). Do you ever see competent pve arms warriors doing well?
Arms was very good before the patch 1.12's talents came into play. Way back in Vanilla wow, mortal strike worked differently than today, same with blood thirst. Back then the highest dps was MS, after BWL fury was better but before then MS was king. P servers laugh at Mortal Strike damage. It sucks compared to Fury when fully world buffed. No increased attack speed. MS may be good for specific bosses after BWL. I think a few naxx bosses heal, so a MS warrior is good for those fights, otherwise fury is still better.
1% attack speed on helm... ERR. this is not the enchant u would use for ur head slot item, its practically worthless. the reason behind this is that there are VERY few fights in this game ( especially early stage of the game) that lasts long enough for the enchant to be viable. In order for your enchant to be worth anything, the encounter your doing needs to last long enough for you to be granted an extra swing out of a 100 swings. and this wont happen. In Theory 1% attack speed is a better option in terms of gear scaling, but in reality you wont have any dps increase at all as it wont grant you an extra attack on whatever mob you're fighting.
Actually the flat haste % is better at higher gear lvls when you have more str/crit, as at a certain point 7 str will still be 7 strength, where as one or 2 more hits per fight will be a lot of dmg, especially if crits.
Doomulus prime vs ravenholdt slicer? Perfect poison quest. Also do a video on 2h fury vs dual weild fury. Arcanite reaper w crusader vs dal rend set double crusader.
abishek soti Vanilla leveling is just kind of rough.. Just power through for now, but defiantly search around for some solid guides because there around
Me before watching this video: 'Why am I watching this? I'm not gonna play a warrior in Classic.' *watches it anyway* Me after watching this video: 'Why did I watch this? I'm still not gonna play a warrior in Classic.' *regrets nothing*
The following words are not pronounced the same way: steps, steppes. Martyr is pronounced mar ter, not mar tire. Satire is not the same as satyr. Martyr and satyr both have the ter sound, like master or farther.
Bro, you lost me, You're saying that Hit rate is a very good stat to have, but at the same time you are a human warrior and you're offhand is a dagger... offhand already has like 50% hit, and your not using a mace or sword which you have +3% hit from your racial, plus you get a reduction on glancing blows, you would dps more if your offhand was sword or mace..... Also you said gun for troll, its bow, gun is dwarf.
OK I got a question, if this is bis pre raid, once I start doing raids and I start getting raid loot, what should I do with it? should I continue using pre raid gear or start swapping items
and that is different between every item but usually if the raid item has better stats (which they usually do) they're better, there's ofc exceptions to this like devilsaur set but even devilsaur isn't worth picking up for its price (atleast on lightshope but usually you should use the limited gold you have on more important things)
Congrats on building a glass cannon. And by the time you farmed all these BIS items, the raid you would have joined a year ago would have cleared BWL by now. It's a nearly unattainable setup.
Like I said in the video, there are tons of other pieces of gear you could replace the ones I showed with. The hardest pieces of gear to obtain are the weapons, besides those, all other gear is easily obtainable. I have gear several warriors on different private servers to pre raid bis, excluding 2 or 3 pieces. Its not as hard as you think.
Are you aware that private server's use almost the exact same core as Vanilla did back in 2004? It's basically the same thing, with very very minor changes. Drop rates and gear are literally the exact same thing as it was in vanilla.
I find that very hard to believe. People, including myself, ran 100's of ironfoe runs and still never saw it drop. That math wouldn't make sense if it was 14%
Some of the items you cannot get right off the start that's the problem with these guides. We need BIS first logging in that you can get from vendors THEN we'll worry about drops mate.
Wtfheal 2h is not better at all, the only consideration to make on horde is where pre bis weapons fall due to the axe racial for orcs, some axes will be higher than say a similar sword.
Good video, but somehow you seem nervous, a bit too much stuttering and some slippy mistakes/false answers. Besides from that i enjoyed it, good and clear voice
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i didn't knew u made them i ve been checking those guides since i started on the sv
Savage Gladiator chain is best chest btw.
@IPSECMERLIN Merlin definitely after when you start doing dungeons only, you should do dungeons like brd arena/anger for the chest and trinket from early 50s and get the rest of the stuff later on, and stop questing entirely.
@IPSECMERLIN Merlin I mean if you're dungeoning as dps, then equip them right away :)
this is awsome , you should do one for each class people love this stuff with classic coming out, also you should do guides on how to get some of the head enchants and stuff like that or how to get all the buffs to go raid. love your content mate :)
Doing a guide on how to get the enchant is actually a really good idea. I might do that tomorrow. Thanks for the tip. I might also come out with a consumables guide for fury warrior as well.
for the chestpiece im pretty sure the gladiators one from ring event in BRD is pre-raid BiS
It is! :)
It’s bis til aq40 or some shiat
Love to these videos from Executus! They are so nice. Thank you, you helped me alot! We are Warriors!
TLDR "but/so yea"
8:33 It's axe of the deep "woods". Who hurt you?
After ninja looting all the rogue and hunter gear you will also be the most popular, pre-raid BiS fury warrior on the server.
Rogue/Hunter/DPS Warrior all share the same loot. It's the same thing for literally every other class too. Healers/Tanks/DPS.
@@ExecutusGaming You are using the same logic as Hunters claiming Ashkandi. So Warriors can conveniently roll on 3 times the amount of armor pieces as Rogues. I'm telling you, your ass will be despised if you do this.
@@potshot2 You clearly have 0 idea how vanilla gearing works.
@@kodition No one cares about your private server.
How is it ninja looting if you're actually going to use it?? Ninja looting is taking something you don't actually need just to fuck with people.
you forgot savage gladiator chain m8 also mass of mcgowan is nice for main hand .
Sword of zeal is another good weapon
Re: Chest Slot.
Savage Gladiator Chain is also very fucking good for your pre raid set, dropping from Ring of Law in BRD. Though with the caveat that it only has the good stats after AQ 40/Dungeon 2 set quests when they did the dungeon loot revamps.
for a second i thought it was a rogue bis guide... all hail leather armor
I know fury is the top dog (dual wield to be specific), but is arms still a viable choice? Do people on private servers allow an arms warrior to raid, or is the dot limit too problematic for most people now?
I remember back in vanilla, I ran arms and could top DPS in ZG and MC (not on every fight, but any fight where I could just continue beating on something the entire time), and was still competitive in BWL (at this point, fury was on top and rogues and I were neck and neck a lot of the time).
Do you ever see competent pve arms warriors doing well?
Arms was very good before the patch 1.12's talents came into play. Way back in Vanilla wow, mortal strike worked differently than today, same with blood thirst. Back then the highest dps was MS, after BWL fury was better but before then MS was king. P servers laugh at Mortal Strike damage. It sucks compared to Fury when fully world buffed. No increased attack speed. MS may be good for specific bosses after BWL. I think a few naxx bosses heal, so a MS warrior is good for those fights, otherwise fury is still better.
I have yet to see a pre raid bis gear video for prot warriors
I will be coming out with that one soon!
This is a year later lol but is this for RetroWoW or Classic or just any vanilla based server or what? Just curious
So I've looked at a lot of bis gear guides and some very complex spreadsheets and noticed bis is not always best as a set. Hope this is better.
1% attack speed on helm... ERR. this is not the enchant u would use for ur head slot item, its practically worthless.
the reason behind this is that there are VERY few fights in this game ( especially early stage of the game) that lasts long enough for the enchant to be viable. In order for your enchant to be worth anything, the encounter your doing needs to last long enough for you to be granted an extra swing out of a 100 swings. and this wont happen.
In Theory 1% attack speed is a better option in terms of gear scaling, but in reality you wont have any dps increase at all as it wont grant you an extra attack on whatever mob you're fighting.
I said not to use the 1% attack speed enchant in the vid. I was just using it on the helm for some tests. But yes, you are correct, it does suck.
Actually the flat haste % is better at higher gear lvls when you have more str/crit, as at a certain point 7 str will still be 7 strength, where as one or 2 more hits per fight will be a lot of dmg, especially if crits.
GB is for grey dmg as i know which means AA .
enchants at 15:14
Doomulus prime vs ravenholdt slicer? Perfect poison quest. Also do a video on 2h fury vs dual weild fury. Arcanite reaper w crusader vs dal rend set double crusader.
You'll be making a vanilla leveling guide for new players? Tried leveling and it was pretty darn tuff
abishek soti Vanilla leveling is just kind of rough.. Just power through for now, but defiantly search around for some solid guides because there around
abishek soti thats because back in vanilla leveling really was half the battle. The other half was gearing up and getting mats for the raids.
Savage gladiator chain. BiS pre raid chest?
Yes, I forgot to include that.
only when it gets updated. b4 that 7 dwarfs chest is bis
Cadaverous is better. Crit cap with world buffs and a few consumables is easily attained.
you not gonna reach crit cap as 2h war
He's dual wielding here. You're arguing apples and oranges. Enjoy sub 700 attack power without Cadaverous.
oui
gracias
Wouldn't you say "Savage Gladiator Chain" is BiS for chest?
It is!
No Sav Glad?
yeah i think savage chain is bis to be honest
the amount of bitching when I used to roll on leather back in the day. Only Fury wars understands fury gearing.
lotta hit, that all necessary?
Me before watching this video: 'Why am I watching this? I'm not gonna play a warrior in Classic.'
*watches it anyway*
Me after watching this video: 'Why did I watch this? I'm still not gonna play a warrior in Classic.'
*regrets nothing*
noob :D
Most of this the same for arms?
So I'm guessing 9% hit even though your orc with a 1h axe?
If you're running dual wield the extra hit doesn't hurt, but I believe it falls off around 12-14% on endgame
The following words are not pronounced the same way: steps, steppes.
Martyr is pronounced mar ter, not mar tire.
Satire is not the same as satyr. Martyr and satyr both have the ter sound, like master or farther.
Thanks professor
real shit that bugged
Steps and steppes are pronounced the same
Helped me out heaps bro
Lion helm is expansive af if u want to make or buy, its like the one of the best helmets until later patches Luls !
It's the best helm for all vanilla.
man i can't stand wearing all there leather pieces. it messes with my roleplaying
RP cringe.
That’s just how it was in vanilla, most of the best gear is a mix of leather mail and plate. The sets suck for dps.
It gets better in AQ40 with t2.5
Highlander's Plate Spaulders wasnt that hard to get and looks much more badass at vanilla
ninja loot vs rogues
Can't u be arms in raids?
No, MS takes up a debuff slot
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Bro, you lost me, You're saying that Hit rate is a very good stat to have, but at the same time you are a human warrior and you're offhand is a dagger... offhand already has like 50% hit, and your not using a mace or sword which you have +3% hit from your racial, plus you get a reduction on glancing blows, you would dps more if your offhand was sword or mace.....
Also you said gun for troll, its bow, gun is dwarf.
OK I got a question, if this is bis pre raid, once I start doing raids and I start getting raid loot, what should I do with it? should I continue using pre raid gear or start swapping items
obvious troll right? ofc you replace the better raid loot with your pre raid bis?
Sofus Kjaer I asked because there some items that are still better the pre raid than the raid piece until certain point.
thanks in advance!
and that is different between every item but usually if the raid item has better stats (which they usually do) they're better, there's ofc exceptions to this like devilsaur set but even devilsaur isn't worth picking up for its price (atleast on lightshope but usually you should use the limited gold you have on more important things)
His explanation of weapon skill is quite off.
Is it pronounced "Satter's Bow"? (Satyr is spelled like Martyr).
Yes, that _is_ the only thing I took away from this video.
Congrats on building a glass cannon. And by the time you farmed all these BIS items, the raid you would have joined a year ago would have cleared BWL by now. It's a nearly unattainable setup.
Like I said in the video, there are tons of other pieces of gear you could replace the ones I showed with. The hardest pieces of gear to obtain are the weapons, besides those, all other gear is easily obtainable. I have gear several warriors on different private servers to pre raid bis, excluding 2 or 3 pieces. Its not as hard as you think.
Yeah on PRIVATE servers maybe. Not in actual Vanilla WoW.
Are you aware that private server's use almost the exact same core as Vanilla did back in 2004? It's basically the same thing, with very very minor changes. Drop rates and gear are literally the exact same thing as it was in vanilla.
@@ExecutusGaming bruh headchargers and ironfoe were sub 1 percent in vanilla. In nost core servers both are 14% ironfoe was luxury in vanilla
I find that very hard to believe. People, including myself, ran 100's of ironfoe runs and still never saw it drop. That math wouldn't make sense if it was 14%
fantastic!
Some of the items you cannot get right off the start that's the problem with these guides. We need BIS first logging in that you can get from vendors THEN we'll worry about drops mate.
what?
Boots of valor are better pre raid bis boots
noob
what about pvp sets or d1 and d2 sets ???
lol 1% attack speed derp
SGC
this guide is not correct for horde
Wtfheal The horde is not correct in general
why not. are u referring to the weapon choice? i dont see any other difference.
preraid bis for horde is 2h and not dw. that means you need less hit and take more crit / ap. that changes the other gear choices
Wtfheal 2h is not better at all, the only consideration to make on horde is where pre bis weapons fall due to the axe racial for orcs, some axes will be higher than say a similar sword.
@@seanbailey317 uhhh Windfury totem yo
Good video, but somehow you seem nervous, a bit too much stuttering and some slippy mistakes/false answers. Besides from that i enjoyed it, good and clear voice