Yeah the boss still will "dodge"from behind and parry/block from infront. After a mob dodge you can stance dance into an overpower if your low on rage for a free chance at a crit. Critical strikes activates your +30% attack speed and you want that up as much as possible as fury. Remember to use heroic strike if your main abilities are on cool down and you have excess rage i.e after you heroic strike if you can still afford both main abilities so around 40-50+ rage you will build more rage for CD abilities from white attacks while you wait for CDs. You can also use cleave instead of heroic strike if your threat is too high to risk a heroic strike and for threat sensitive bosses i.e Val in BWL.
@@gthegiant I'm sorry but are you stupid? That's like saying +crit chance on a helmet is useless since you don't attack with your helmet. Crit chance is overall, doesn't matter what piece of gear it is from.
@@Hompuu k3 player spotted xD It's very well known that having elemental sharpening stone on your OH is only supposed to give you 2 % more crit on white hits, but not on abilities. If you look at the math from the simulation sheet then yea +7 dmg OH and +2% crit MH is best.
Great video! I’m actually in your classic guild, came across your video by chance. RUclips actually recommended me to it haha. My in-game name is Johan. You’ll be my class leader. Really excited to learn and raid with you. The invulnerability potion is something I’ve never seen mentioned before, really interesting. I’ll sub and check out your other content, see ya in game :)
also worth mentioning.. IF you know that your damage WILL pull agro from a tank on boss fight and you have excesive rage to waste ..use cleave instead of heroics. a lil less damage and worth damage to rage ration ..yes but no extra agro gain will end up in more overall damage to the target.
Do DME jump runs 3man, or ifnyou or more geared go 2man. Tank strat love and res orbs, they go for around 30g on AH and you get avg of 2 per run. Or sell tanking services. Its always hard to find a good tank
overall good but some information are wrongs. for example diffrent sharpenig stones should be used depending on the speed of the weapon. Usally u use the crit stone on your fast offhand.
You dont do ww and then wait 3 seconds to cast bloodthirst cause no rage. You dont use ww and you use bt on cd, in that case you dont have enough rage ofc.
I got one question, do I want to pop BS even if it's already on? For example if main tank already used Battle Shout do I still wanna use it? Great video by the way, makes everything look so much easier then I initially thought!
Depends on if your tank is 5/5 imp BS or 3/8 t2. Regardless, the person with the highest AP BS will override and prevent other BS's from being cast while it lasts.
If you are as good as tanking you should make a guide for this aswell. Im tanking and Im feel sad that there is a so low amount of tanking guide on youtube ^^.
Tanking is like 10 times more complicated than this. Rotation my fucking ass, pressing 2 buttons and call it rotation ROFLMAO. In tanking you have to press like 7-9 buttons, and all at proper time, depending on situation.
Thanks! Yes, as a DPS warrior I occasionally use cleave instead of heroic strike, to not generate extra threat. I frequently do it on bosses in MC while world buffed.
So you need a shit ton of gold everytime you raid, do you recommand using alchemy and herb as profession if it's my only character ? how much does it cost you per raid ?
Go engineering as you can pad your DPS with sappercharges. herbalism is decent but be ready to PvP alot about the high value herbs. Enchanting is pretty decent if you plan to do DM:E jump runs to DE blues and get large brilliant shards. Blacksmith and the likes only if you are guild blacksmith and get funneled stuff into you like Thorium rep or Lionheart helm. Else not worth it.
Do u never use edgemasters on bosses? I play a undead warrior so im just curious, doesnt it just give 3% hit basically? Or is that 3% hit only vs lvl 63 mobs (bosses)
@@denkoCS You only want to wear them when fighting mobs at lvl 63 or bosses. Otherwise they're not that great. A great idea would be to watch/read a guide on how weapon skill works. That helped me out a lot.
@@kimandersen6174 Yeah, i have a general idea of how it works, for example like 63 mobs / bosses have 315 defense or whatever, but im just curious since ive seen other people that play non orc/human warriors wear them all the time, for both trash mobs etc without switching.
@Executus Gaming Did you play Acrchimonde in vanilla? I remember the MT of a naxx raiding guild being named Executus and the guild name was something like Veritas Invictus?
If you are alliance and you are crit capped and only using 1 ele stone + 1 dense, wouldn't you want ele on OH and dense on MH for more bloodthirst/ww damage? i think you have the stones backwards
@@laszlobozso8247 Giants lasts an hour where JuJu lasts 30 mins...it's more about convenience. Farming the eko's in Winters or buying the pots from AH...
Didn't say anything about getting the Rumsey Rum Black label. Where the frick do you get those in Vanilla ? It's not the fricking old hillsbrad foothills that didn't even exist
It's at the inn for Alliance at Hillsbrad foothills. The barkeeper sells them. If you are Horde you can MC him or get an alliance character to buy it and sell it in neutral auction.
i just keep overaggroing when i push the dps.... i just can't top over the rogues dps due to them having vanish. idk how i can outdps them, everytime i try i just pull overaggro and die :(
well obviously like in ZG where i don't worry at all if i over aggro im top dps. but in BWL that's not an option unfortunately. i think i am just trying too find a reason too blame something else other than comming to the fact that my tank sucks.
Why is it so important that death wish ends RIGHT as the boss dies, if you pop it on execute phase and the boss is up 10 seconds after it ends, why is that such a big deal? At least explain why it's so important if you're gonna put so much emphasis on it.
Very good question. Let me try to break it down as best as I can. DW gives you 20% increased damage basically. If you use DW just for execute phase, you are losing out on all of that extra damage once the boss dies, if that makes sense. You either have 20% increased damage for the full duration of the buff (30 sec), or you have 20% increased damage for 15 seconds of the fight (execute phase). I hope this explained things.
@@ExecutusGaming Ye I understand what you're saying, I just thought execute phase lasted for 30 seconds or longer, haven't played vanilla in ages hehe. Ty for answering man
@@Hompuu depends on the boss fight and gear of the raid groupd. But what hes trying to teach is maximozing your potential. This isn't really meant for casuals.
Didn't say anything about getting the Rumsey Rum Black label. Where the frick do you get those in Vanilla ? It's not the fricking old hillsbrad foothills that didn't even exist
forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1473 - Written version with a lot more detail
Time Stamps:
Consumables: 0:10
Rotation: 11:00
Extremely thorough guide! Very well explained. Also gj on covering everything!
well this made so many thing much clearer..thanks mate..every day is a schoolday when it comes to warriors, 'innit? :D
Yeah the boss still will "dodge"from behind and parry/block from infront. After a mob dodge you can stance dance into an overpower if your low on rage for a free chance at a crit. Critical strikes activates your +30% attack speed and you want that up as much as possible as fury. Remember to use heroic strike if your main abilities are on cool down and you have excess rage i.e after you heroic strike if you can still afford both main abilities so around 40-50+ rage you will build more rage for CD abilities from white attacks while you wait for CDs. You can also use cleave instead of heroic strike if your threat is too high to risk a heroic strike and for threat sensitive bosses i.e Val in BWL.
can't Dodge from behind? Did you mean parry?
Great video, this guy's videos are fantastic
2% crit stone on OH and +7 on MH would make much more sense or am i wrong? 2% crit is overall, and the +7 dmg does towards the chosen wpn?
That's a very good question, I am not sure
you want it in MH as it increases your abilities' crit chance.
Doesn't matter, it counts as overall crit chance, not just for your MH ^^
@@gthegiant I'm sorry but are you stupid? That's like saying +crit chance on a helmet is useless since you don't attack with your helmet. Crit chance is overall, doesn't matter what piece of gear it is from.
@@Hompuu k3 player spotted xD It's very well known that having elemental sharpening stone on your OH is only supposed to give you 2 % more crit on white hits, but not on abilities. If you look at the math from the simulation sheet then yea +7 dmg OH and +2% crit MH is best.
Great video! I’m actually in your classic guild, came across your video by chance. RUclips actually recommended me to it haha. My in-game name is Johan. You’ll be my class leader. Really excited to learn and raid with you. The invulnerability potion is something I’ve never seen mentioned before, really interesting. I’ll sub and check out your other content, see ya in game :)
Thanks boss!
On a sidenote. The strenght you get from mighty rage potion is wasted in execute phase. So you want to time that with your CDs before execute.
Its not wasted
Another excellent video!
also worth mentioning.. IF you know that your damage WILL pull agro from a tank on boss fight and you have excesive rage to waste ..use cleave instead of heroics. a lil less damage and worth damage to rage ration ..yes but no extra agro gain will end up in more overall damage to the target.
I was going to mention using cleave over heroic strike, but this is just a basic guide, I might do an advanced guide in the future.
Great upload! Good to know what stacks and what doesn’t!
Wanting to roll warrior but I’m concerned with farming gold at level cap. Can you leave some insight on how you farm or tips to make gold?
Tank dungeons and reserve items that you can sell
Do DME jump runs 3man, or ifnyou or more geared go 2man. Tank strat love and res orbs, they go for around 30g on AH and you get avg of 2 per run. Or sell tanking services. Its always hard to find a good tank
Great guide! Keep the warrior guides coming please.
Super Cool! Totally pump out those wicked awesome warrior guides, good friend! Look how nice and gay we are!
overall good but some information are wrongs. for example diffrent sharpenig stones should be used depending on the speed of the weapon. Usally u use the crit stone on your fast offhand.
Are clipping bloodthirsty timers to get that ww in?
You dont do ww and then wait 3 seconds to cast bloodthirst cause no rage. You dont use ww and you use bt on cd, in that case you dont have enough rage ofc.
Lol thanks about reminding me about the sharping stones I completely forgotten about those. Almost 60 and already killing damage meters.
I got one question, do I want to pop BS even if it's already on? For example if main tank already used Battle Shout do I still wanna use it? Great video by the way, makes everything look so much easier then I initially thought!
Depends on if your tank is 5/5 imp BS or 3/8 t2. Regardless, the person with the highest AP BS will override and prevent other BS's from being cast while it lasts.
That was a great video, thank you!
If you are as good as tanking you should make a guide for this aswell. Im tanking and Im feel sad that there is a so low amount of tanking guide on youtube ^^.
Tanking is like 10 times more complicated than this. Rotation my fucking ass, pressing 2 buttons and call it rotation ROFLMAO.
In tanking you have to press like 7-9 buttons, and all at proper time, depending on situation.
Did you miss cleave instead of heroic strike when potential to pull agro? Great guide!
Thanks! Yes, as a DPS warrior I occasionally use cleave instead of heroic strike, to not generate extra threat. I frequently do it on bosses in MC while world buffed.
So you need a shit ton of gold everytime you raid, do you recommand using alchemy and herb as profession if it's my only character ? how much does it cost you per raid ?
Go engineering as you can pad your DPS with sappercharges. herbalism is decent but be ready to PvP alot about the high value herbs.
Enchanting is pretty decent if you plan to do DM:E jump runs to DE blues and get large brilliant shards.
Blacksmith and the likes only if you are guild blacksmith and get funneled stuff into you like Thorium rep or Lionheart helm. Else not worth it.
quick tip try adding hamstring into your rotation as its very good for flurry up time
and windfuryeeeeeeh.
Do u never use edgemasters on bosses? I play a undead warrior so im just curious, doesnt it just give 3% hit basically? Or is that 3% hit only vs lvl 63 mobs (bosses)
denkocs he's human so his racial gives him +5 sword skills so he doesn't need it.
@@kimandersen6174 oh right, but usually (in my case, undead) i would want to wear them 24 7
@@denkoCS You only want to wear them when fighting mobs at lvl 63 or bosses. Otherwise they're not that great.
A great idea would be to watch/read a guide on how weapon skill works. That helped me out a lot.
@@kimandersen6174 Yeah, i have a general idea of how it works, for example like 63 mobs / bosses have 315 defense or whatever, but im just curious since ive seen other people that play non orc/human warriors wear them all the time, for both trash mobs etc without switching.
@@denkoCS just think they're lazy ^^
Frost oil?
Whirlwind is also good for a single target ??
Outdated guide, in classic heroic strike is better and should be used over ww
@Executus Gaming Did you play Acrchimonde in vanilla? I remember the MT of a naxx raiding guild being named Executus and the guild name was something like Veritas Invictus?
No, sorry.
If you are alliance and you are crit capped and only using 1 ele stone + 1 dense, wouldn't you want ele on OH and dense on MH for more bloodthirst/ww damage? i think you have the stones backwards
That's true, stones are backwards. But if you're crit capped it would be dense on both
5:14 You did actually gain 5 strength man!! 212-217!
This is because juju is 30 and elixir is 25. For anyone wondering
@@wallraven55 So it just makes no sense to use giants
@@laszlobozso8247 Giants lasts an hour where JuJu lasts 30 mins...it's more about convenience. Farming the eko's in Winters or buying the pots from AH...
Is rend not worth incorporating into rotation?
Nothing on slam?
Rend is useless at 60 in PvE. Slam is great with a 2h and improved slam.
nice guide but whet is the Crit cap?
I read somewhere at 39%...
That Tauren looked scary
He was
Why dense in offhand when our abilities are based on melee wep dmg from our MH?
increase off hand white damage
Great vid, trying to figure out what to play
Didn't say anything about getting the Rumsey Rum Black label. Where the frick do you get those in Vanilla ? It's not the fricking old hillsbrad foothills that didn't even exist
Fishing, if i remember correctly you can only get them during the weekly fishing tournament
It's at the inn for Alliance at Hillsbrad foothills. The barkeeper sells them. If you are Horde you can MC him or get an alliance character to buy it and sell it in neutral auction.
i just keep overaggroing when i push the dps....
i just can't top over the rogues dps due to them having vanish.
idk how i can outdps them, everytime i try i just pull overaggro and die :(
Try using cleave instead of heroic strike to dump rage. Cleave doesn't generate extra threat, but heroic strike does.
You will overtake them in execute phase anyway
well obviously like in ZG where i don't worry at all if i over aggro im top dps.
but in BWL that's not an option unfortunately.
i think i am just trying too find a reason too blame something else other than comming to the fact that my tank sucks.
@@livinghealthywithfredrikli2759 use LIP if u take agro,easy
Can rogues do comparable dmg to fury?
Yes
what server is this?
awesome, thanks
I believe you can still attack while LIP is up
Not melee attacks, only spells.
Why is it so important that death wish ends RIGHT as the boss dies, if you pop it on execute phase and the boss is up 10 seconds after it ends, why is that such a big deal? At least explain why it's so important if you're gonna put so much emphasis on it.
Very good question. Let me try to break it down as best as I can. DW gives you 20% increased damage basically. If you use DW just for execute phase, you are losing out on all of that extra damage once the boss dies, if that makes sense. You either have 20% increased damage for the full duration of the buff (30 sec), or you have 20% increased damage for 15 seconds of the fight (execute phase). I hope this explained things.
@@ExecutusGaming Ye I understand what you're saying, I just thought execute phase lasted for 30 seconds or longer, haven't played vanilla in ages hehe. Ty for answering man
@@Hompuu depends on the boss fight and gear of the raid groupd. But what hes trying to teach is maximozing your potential. This isn't really meant for casuals.
@@GamingCentralTV1 Bruh its vanilla fury, its about as casual a priority as you can get.
No apostrophe required.
You don't put Elemental Sharpening Stone on your OH as horde mate.
Mh windfury OG elemental, whats wrong?
NO heroic strike cancel macro?
just press esc
Yes, and stick Heroic strike and cleave on your mouse wheel. One skill scroll up and the other down...
Classic so much better than retail it's insane how much they noobed it up for more money
there is a buff cap
you´re right, so do you know any build with arms/fury points to do pve and pvp ?
I've made a separate guide covering talents trees.
how do you switch to berserker stance after charge? can you share your macros? thanks man, great vid!
nahaluz just change stance while charging. be sure ur in berz stance before ur first auto hits.
Dont use the juju flurry, not worth it. Pretty much dps decrease..
Jesus fuck thats 100s of gold in consumes. Warriors already have a tough time farming it.
Juju flurrys reduces your damage lol
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MFKIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That intro..
why dont you have the greater agility potions? they stack with mongoose.
haha never knew that! Just read as long as you consume the mongoose, first...
*brief stroke LOL
l i k e c a n d y
lol dont spam whirlwhind use heroic striek to dump rage
Rip classic man xD
Didn't say anything about getting the Rumsey Rum Black label. Where the frick do you get those in Vanilla ? It's not the fricking old hillsbrad foothills that didn't even exist
Black Label is bought from a boss in DM N after doing a tribute run.
@@ExecutusGaming Ohhh. i see. I actually know how to do that. Thank you so much
@@RaspBerryTea886 fishing too