No, YOU'RE saying “Mario” wrong
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- For years, people have told me I say the word "Mario" wrong: I say "marry-oh" instead of "MARio". So today, I've asked an expert linguist to tell me - what is the "correct" way to say Mario, really?
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Huge thanks to Yoïn van Spijk for helping me out with this video! I didn't realise how complicated the topic was until I spoke to him!
Yoïn posts some super interesting breakdowns of language evolution on his Twitter account twitter.com/yvanspijk so be sure to give him a follow!
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I’m glad you were able to get a professional linguist to answer the question, never would’ve thought it went this deep
I can't help but comment that you pronounce Yoïn's name with a hard J like 'join', why not say it like the actual British Y, as in 'young' or 'yoke'? Even in Dutch, his name is pronounced with a sound that mirrors the way English speakers pronounce a Y at the start of a word.
I found this video hilarious because you concentrated on "A", and this doesn't really bother me, the only thing that bothers me is when you add Y between I and O! :D
@@Marescio I can assure you that Thomas pronounces my name perfectly. :)
i’m italian: charles martinet basically has a perfect “mario” pronunciation so if you want to say mario “the italian way” he does a great example imo :)
Exactly, Charles Martinet actually knows how to and can speak Italian.
Yes, he did an excellent job, if I can say it as an Italian myself. I didn't who he could actually speak Italian, tho.
@@asimpleuser8570 From what I know, he is also half French so he can speak French too! So cool!
@@flamesmrk847 yup! he also speaks spanish too iirc
@@flamesmrk847 i did a quick research and apparently charles actually knows italian but very little of it (according to an user on gamefaqs), so this is really impressive! he nailed the pronunciation, of not just “mario”, but a lot of italian words in the mario franchise that he had to say
Fun fact: In Super Mario Maker there is a character named Mary O.
Wasnt that that weird woman? That always gave you tutorials n stuff
@@rockrheadHD yep
I remember that
That was only her name in america
Fun fact: i dont care.
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Love your videos, Mark!
Finally, it's here! ;)
Learning to code really paid off.
Hey i love ur videos and watch u all the time.
Sike !
enjoy being wrong and deaf i guess
“You know, if you just remove the length of the vowel it sounds just like a British Mario.”
“If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike!”
They’re both wrong, it’s pronounced “Red Luigi”
Well, this is his name from now on as far as I'm concerned.
Everyone says luigi is green mario but oh how the tables
@@Funnyapple64 have turned. You forgot that part
Yes lol
No it's said FLOPPA
Seeing Martinet doing the Mario voice never fails to bring a smile to my face, what a legend
Ikr
He will be missed :(
@@requiem165WDYM IKR!?
it's wholesome
@@Max_and_countryballs he ate too much spaghetti 😔
Really interesting topic, especially the fact that we hear how Mario himself says his name differently depending on where you're from
That's funny because as someone who speak French, I never heard MAR-io or MARRY-o in Mario 64 at all, I've always heard the italian pronunciation, guess that's because both are latin language.
@@MrCed122 disney xd
@@abruhbruhbruhh8136 ?
@@MrCed122 i always hear the italian prononciation but thats cuz im italian lol
@@MrCed122 to me, Mar-io is closest to Ma-Rio in terms of sound.
Classic sonic: no one gets my name wrong people: CLASSIC SANIC
I love how this video is just "No, *we* pronounce Mario wrong"
who's "we"
@@tionaus Americans and British People
@@AmazingJuniorBros I'm not we 😭
I mean, he's right, you guys technically do say it wrong lmao
Well yeah, you all aren't Italian
As an italian I can see now why it's difficult to say Mario. I didn't know that most of people would have problems with the pronunciation until this video, so thank you. It was a really interesting topic. And, also, I always liked how you say his name. Buona fortuna se ancora avete delle difficoltà!
Yeah, as an italian, I thought the same.
Ma non fa nulla, dopotutto non è la fine del mondo se dicono "Mario" male
@@LollinoDamb64 You are right, it's not so bad if you spell the name a little bit different than the original. Goditi la giornata, fellow italian.
It's also worth noting that we rarely if ever have anybody that goes by the British pronunciation of the name, it's always by the American pronunciation of the name. Pronouncing it in any other way would seem weird to us because it's not something we hear and I've never heard anybody be corrected on it. Probably because it's close enough.
It's also worth noting that in most of the US, we pronounce Mary, merry and marry the same, so we wouldn't really even have that vowel sound available in many cases, except as a foreign word.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Mary has the a slightly longer even in english, marry has the a sound more like mahrry rather than merry which is just normal. They're not too different but just slightly. We here in Slovakia even have a way of differenciating long and short sounds. A is short Á is long. E is short É is long... same goes for Ó, Ú, Ý, Í, Ĺ and Ŕ.
**Speaks Mario gibberish assuming you'd understand**
I always separated the syllables as ma-rio rather than mar-io. No long “merry’ sound, but i guess it isn’t any closer to being correct than the other ways. Interesting video!
same I say it this way
English syllabification is kind of unique, and it really messes up with e.g. Greek learners of English, because it makes no sense to us. There's literally no consistency regarding *_what_* can constitute a syllable, whereas most other languages tend to a certain degree of consistency.
@@RaspK I think the reason syllables in English are annoying is because of the fact that approximants (phonemes like the English W and non-vowel Y) link two syllables together, by sort of being part of both syllables, like in the word oil. This can also happen with fricatives (things like F, V, Z, S, Þ, (TH as in thing ) and Ð (TH as in this). They can be at the end and start different syllables, which can be observed by saying “ifffi”. If you say that, you’ll notice that the syllables “ɪf” and “fɪ” are linked because of how the F is just one sound, making “ɪfɪ” technically one syllable. I hope this wasn’t too long.
The presence of "r modified" vowels is valid as well. Perhaps easiest was to see this would be:
US = m❪ARE❫eo
British = m❪AIR❫eo
Italian = MA-rio - No "r modification"
This was the same way I described it on the survey before this video came out. As a Spanish speaker with some familiarity with Italian and Portuguese, "Mario" is a 2-syllable word, with the 2nd syllable starting with the R, since THAT's how Romance language logic works. When I is adjacent to another vowel, it becomes a Y sound, without adding another syllable. There ARE exceptions to this, but for simplicity's sake, that's the norm.
Thomas Game Docs: *posts a video about the pronunciation of the character Mario*
RUclips: "looks like Ace Attorney to me"
what
MARRY OH
now its nsmbw
US: It’s MARio!
UK: No, it’s MARRY-o!
Italy: You’re both wrong!
Good one
US: often say the word Pokémon wrong as well, they don't say the é which is silenced in Japan, I go with the place of origin.
Italians: It's Ma-ri-o!
Brits & Americans: That's what we said!
@@MartKart8 but thats not how you say pocket in English. it literally makes zero sense not to say the e in pocket monsters
moreo cookies
Nice to know I say Mario correctly ( I am Dutch )
also, it's not just the "a" that's different, the "r" is also different than how American and British people pronounce it
Based Nederland
I think that the guys who explained it is also Dutch.
@@rosehere3912 He is
That's the thing, the R sound from both English is very wrong compared to normal European languages, it's not a arh, it's soft r not vibrating your vocal chords and not moving your lips just hit your theeth with your tongue while expelling air only at the end, try saying Rio instead of Wrheeouh, you can test it yourself it makes much better the pronunciation. After all ä is not very different from the American one, but definitely it's not an æ like in British.
Real reality
This was super interesting; wasn't expecting to learn that people actually *hear* Mario's own pronunciation of his name differently. It kinda adds another layer to those auditory illusions that go viral every so often lol
It's not super surprising, that's part of where accents come from. People will pronounce things in the way that they hear them typically. And by the age of 6 months babies already cry in one language or another. If you don't develop the ability to hear the sound, you'll almost certainly never develop the ability to produce it with any consistency because you'll have no way of monitoring to see if you're doing it right.
It's how humans work. If they have a pre-defined conclusion, they're more likely to cherry pick evidence in their favor.
I love to bold random words *when* I speak
@@gamerparker123 If you're talking about "hear", that wasn't random.. it's the part I was most surprised by so I emphasized it 😅
Similar to how one would put a word in all caps if they want to communicate through text that there's supposed to be an intonation as you're reading.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Well it was still interesting to me nonetheless. When you explain it that way I understand how it all makes sense but I suppose it's something I never really thought about until now, haha.
This is really interesting, but there are non Italian people in the games who pronounce Mario in the American way. Like Peach and Bowser. This is mainly because those lines were recorded in America just like Mario's, but it's just surprising that you didn't notice until now that they were pronouncing it differently than you.
Peach is voice by an American.
@@patrickdixon7202 That's literally what I said.
As someone who’s really interested in linguistics, I almost never correct someone’s pronunciation. As long as I know what you’re talking about. Loved this video!
Based, never understood why people try to "correct" others when they're not saying a word wrong, just saying it with their accent typically. It's gives same energy as Americans yelling at the British for putting a u in the word colour when they don't lol
@@foodham3277 OMG!! Exactly!!
Same! I assumed it had to do with his accent. Plus for me "marry" is more like /meəri/ not /mari/.
Pronounciation*
@@sulaymanfagirzada3366 it’s Pronunciation
As an italian I like seeing people debate over how Mario is said knowing that no-one is saying it correctly
Italian as in you live in Italy? Or Italian as in your great great grandma was Italian and you watch the Sopranos.
Italian as I was born in Italy and lived in Italy since I was born
@@iamstarstreek why is that even your business??
@@ChaoticMushy genshin + Roblox player 🥱
@@iamstarstreek why would he comment that if he wasn't Italian? You know Italians are normal people that don't only exist in movies right?
Pues eso
This was unexpected interesting, I love how you always get interesting topics I never thought about :D
Linguistics are interesting, aren't they?
@@beady5831 It kinda is, yes :]
I know... this is so petty. Thomas is still phonetically correct based on the region he's from. Seeing the American bias, AS an American, just leaves a bad taste.
@@stoheha Well now my English reaches it's end, I don't fully understand what you mean 😅
It's amazing how the brain processes language. When you said it sounds like Mario pronounces his name like you do, I was stunned. Even after hearing it side by side, Mario's "Mario", to my ears, sounds much more like the American pronunciation. Even though I can see the differences the linguist pointed out between all three pronunciations, it's like my brain is just wired to hear "MAR-io"
nice pfp and user :33
@@rufflechips1080 I like your pfp, anti Z00
@@raleigh-yf7zy ty :3
as an italian my spaghetti instinct tells me that the american pronunciation sounds closer to the original, but i'm no linguist, far from it, and Yoïn did a great job explaining the matter.
I am a linguist and I disagree fundamentally with Yoin. The American pronunciation is slightly closer to the Italian.
@@AdamFaruqi As a non-linguist English teacher, somebody that spends a lot of time listening to and dissecting accents. The American version sounds closer and I've never met anybody named Mario or Maria that requested the more British version of the name be used.
I think it's because people have different cadences, and often times vowels will shrink or be lengthened during songs. Songs themselves usually being sung closer to American English than British English in most cases. I've heard groups like Herman's Hermits use an actual British accent in songs, but those aren't terribly common in my experience. They tend to actually recognize their rhotic rs when singing.
We adjoin countries with a lot of Spanish speakers, so we pronounce Maria more like the Spanish name María.
@@lrsb1678 aaaaaaaaaand that's not true.
in mario the accent falls on the a, màrio, while in maria the accent falls on the i, maría, as if it was an english ee.
Mahrio and Mareea
As someone with ears (and speaking a language that has the ä sound) I also agree that the American version is closer.
The linguist says the British pronunciation keeps the sound, but changes the length of the a. That just sounds wrong. When Charles Martinet says it, the a sounds like an a, when British people say it, it sounds like an e.
At least the American pronunciation keeps the length of the sound. Also Peach pronounces Mario much more like the American version (in cutscenes like in Super Mario Galaxy)
Of course the voice actor says his name perfectly with the accent. Shame he's not the voice actor for the movie but we'll see.
i cant allow chris pratt to be a defining answer for this question
As a Mario fan all my life... It brings me so much joy that how Mario says his name is the most Itlian thing about him.
Same
hi! italian here! its actually "Mario"! hope this helped!
I know, since i'm Dutch, that in German and Dutch, a lot of words have the a-sound like Mario, so it is very natural for us to pronounce it that way.
Ben jij stinos of Mario
Right there with ya
Het is roode luigi not mahrio mario
@@yesornohmmmm *Loe-iedzjie
Definitely not the R, though
I remember that poll. Did NOT expect this to become a full video topic. I hope we can be satisfied that no one or all of us were uncultured for our opinion on the subject. In any case, fantastic video as always, and its always impressive how you try to source the most relevant information on your topics
Or that it's something that shouldn't matter and it's something people think they have an excuse to whine about lol
@@beanoptodon Well said, this should have never been a topic in the first place, it's like the GIF and JIF argument
Finnish is also a language that doesn't have the Italian a-sound. We use the back vowel /ɑ/ (as in castle but short) when saying Mario. We do also have a sound that's closer to the Italian a-sound, /æ/ which is similar to the English vowel in the word "cat". However, there are two big reasons we don't use this vowel for Mario.
1) This sound is spelt with the letter ä. So if we used this pronunciation, we'd have to spell the name Märio. However, this would not work either because of...
2) ...vowel harmony. Finnish words inherently can not have vowels a, o and u in the same word as ä, ö and y. Every Finnish suffix (ending) has two versions for the different word types. Compare "onnettomuudella" (onni + ton + uus + lla) with "työttömyydellä" (työ + tön + yys + llä) (for you more linguistically oriented, the s in -uus/-yys becomes d when certain case endings are added). So if we were to pronounce the first a as an ä, we'd have to pronounce and spell the last o as ö /ø/ resulting in Märiö ['mæ.ri.ø]
EDIT: Fixed a couple typos.
No matter where you're from, or what accent you acquired since childhood, we can all stand united against one thing. The pronunciation of those thousands of dads from America who pronounce it "Merry-oh" for some reason. You know the ones. They have no excuse.
Depending on your dialect "merry", "marry" & "mary" might sound the same
Oh gawd my New Jerseian dad does this. Didn't know it was a thing lolol
It’s interesting that you pronounce Charles’ last name “Martinet” like the Us pronunciation of MARIO and not with “merry-oh” way. Glad to hear a linguist’s take on this!!
as a Brit I say it like martin ay
mertinet
just one comment, "merry-oh" and "marry-oh" are very distinct in british english. merry has an "eh" sound like "met", but marry has an "a" sound like "mat". and also it's not possible in those accents to make "arr" in "marry", because it sounds unnatural
That would be because he doesn’t pronounce Mario like “merry-oh”.
Never thought this would be even remotely an interesting topic. Was a great watch!
That's me with basically all deep dive youtube videos. Seeing thumbnail: "Why would I care about the history of the toaster?" 30 minutes in: "OH MY GOD IT'S REALLY COOL!"
When people tell me how to pronounce it, I ask them when I asked.
7:20 The way you pronounce the A in the word "chance" is how we Americans pronounce the A in "Mario". And, interestingly, the way we pronounce the A in "chance" is how you pronounce the A in "Mario". 😅
I'm from the UK and I don't say it like "Charnce" or "Carstle"
I just say it like you Americans but without the American accent. I still say "Mario" the way the UK says it though
@@morganisapro7K “Without the accent” bruh everyone has an accent. Everyone who speaks differently from you (Americans, Australians, Scots, etc.) hears you with an accent as much as you hear them with one.
@@yourresume373 hate to break it to you but not everyone has an American accent
@@tainio They just said “without the accent” before the comment was edited.
@@yourresume373 That still doesn't mean the same as "without an accent" or "without any accent". He meant "without THE accent" as in "without the [American] accent" since he had already mentioned "American".
I never realized how many different ways the letter “A” could be pronounced.. awesome job bringing in the linguist, super informative!
Also, the R is pronounced differently. We use the rolling one in Dutch as well as the throat one when we pronounce Mario
Wait till you find out about Mandarin Chinese
For the spanish people, the english "a" sounds like "ei" for us
Thank you for making this video. As an Italian person, it just ever so slightly got on my nerves when my British and American co workers insisted it was marry-o or mar-io.
Ah yes good *PHOENIX WRIGHT:ACE ATTORNEY* content
6:32 Charles Martinet sounds so italian he manages to move his hands how italians do when talking
To be honest, I don't mind how you say Mario, it's actually pretty satisfying for me to hear, even though I pronounce it Mar-i-o
I think it's cute
Same, but secretly I always knew it was making someone on the internet seethe
I mind how he says it, but I am a ghetto speech therpist so don't take my opinion too heavily.
I don't personally mind, I just think it's kind of weird and this is clearly an outsider.
This is pretty consfusing to a spanish speaker, i had to put max volume and use headphones to find the difference and i never thought it was a problem, but now it is for me cause literaly my second name it's Mario
It was interesting because I am also Spanish and have family members named Maria and Mario (cute idea to name twins like that) and see people realize their inconsistent pronunciation of the two names which are otherwise very similar. Nobody who calls him Marry-o calls her Marry-a, but when he points this out they just kind of laugh and move on.
Tbh they do sound different, but I think, since we're Spanish speakers, we just never took notice to it.
@@WarningStrangerDanger 'Mario' has its accent on the first syllable, while 'Maria' has its accent on the second syllable, that's the key reason they don't have the same 'a' vowel.
@@blueecho9792 i'm an italian speaker and i can find the difference
I’m from Brooklyn and growing up I only heard people say it Marry-o, when I heard actors on tv say “Mahr-io” it was like nails on a chalkboard and sounded fake. Super Mario is from Brooklyn so we are right by default😂 great vid!
-Cast
Snus
@@timohara7717 snus?
As someone who speaks portuguese, I find this whole "controversy" hilarious.
I never paid attention to the English pronunciation, and the fact that a lot of people did get bothered by it just to also be saying it incorrectly is priceless 🤣.
I'm Brazilian, I always find these language quirks really fun, it's cool that in Brazil we really don't have that issue with Mario's name tho, lol.
@@Kurisu545 ikr? It's just so clear that we're saying m á r i o
@@Kurisu545 yeah
Pois é, né, mano?
Yup! Spanish speaker here and as a Mexican American, the argument was pretty hilarious to me to. However, let's not let pride ruin us just because we can pronounce Mario correctly hehe😋
I find it really strange, because hearing the original Italian one doesn't sound much different than the way everyone I know pronounces it (from the US),
but every time I hear the British pronunciation it sounds a mile away from the original even though it's just as close as the united states's pronunciation.
Weird how the brain processes stuff like that
It is odd. I am from the US, but have studied Japanese, and it's easier for my to explain how I hear it this way.
In Japan, "I" is always pronounced as "ee" and "a" is always pronounced as "ah" So naturally, Mario is Mah-ree-oh.
However, "e" is always pronounced as "eh" in Japan, and what I hear from the British pronunciation is like Merio (Meh-ree-oh)
@@pennylessz im in your boat, I just wrote a _book_ in the comment section but this was one of the logic paths I went down.
I'm British and I say mah rio
I think the difference is very subtle, but in the US the way we pronounce “MARio” , the “ar” is pronounced almost like a pirate would. The “r” is a little more pronounced . In the Italian pronunciation “mAHrio”, you get the “ahh” sound of the A, but less of an emphasis on the “r” sound . In Italian and Spanish (and prob other languages), the way the r is pronounced, your tongue kind of touches the roof of your mouth, as opposed to in English where R is pronounced more with the lips. Idk if this makes any sense but I hope it helps in some way
As an Italian, i think the American pronunciation is closer to ours. Yours sounds like Mahrio, while the british sounds like Merio.
the defeat in Thomas' face when Yoin said 'he's very italian' LMAO
This is the most useless video I've watched in a hot minute.
I love it.
Keep up the great work
This is hilarious... your advert at 1:08 I hear MARI-Oh
Thomas tweaking fr
I'm Italian and I never noticed a difference between the two pronunciations, because I never payed too much attention to it (I mean, none of you are Italian, not even Mario himself, since he was "born" in Japan lol). In my opinion the US pronunciation is closer to the italian one, but it's just what I think subjectively.
You're correct, although if you asked a new York Italian they'd probably say it like marry o, which is funny considering they're Italian.
wow la pensiamo allo stesso modo :D
Sono d'accordo,non avevo mai notato questa differenza di pronuncia prima di aver visto questo video
Thank you
@@husseinrose4883 nobody in New York in my experience has ever said it that way, I'm from Jersey.
2:55 that how you say Mario. It's italian. Period
That's how we say in Spanish too!
There was an interview with the game creator forever ago so I feel like the guy who made the game would know.
I've never even thought of the length of the sound, I've always just thought of the difference in the "a" pronunciation, vehemently being in the "a" as in the word "car" camp, as opposed to the "cat" pronunciation.
Even though I'm British, I pronounce 'Mario' as 'MAR-io' just because the 'a' sounds more "British" in a sense (like how we pronounce 'water'). Now hearing the Italian pronunciation, I'm leaning towards 'MARRY-o', but it's never bothered me in the first place (unlike those people at the start of the video).
Could I be so bold as to assume you're more Northern English? Yorkshire, for example?
@@stargazewholly7689 i presume they're south
sincerely - a northener who is offended that you suggest any of us say "ah"
@@h-Films You misunderstand my intentions. As someone of Yorkshire descent, we pronounce the "ah" vowel as the "ae" vowel. Examples of this would be "Cat, Bath, Daft, Fast" instead of "C-ah-t, B-ah-th, D-ah-ft and F-ah-st" as you would typically hear in multi-cultural English places such as London and the such.
With this said, I had asked them if they reside or are of Northern English origin as I due to my curiosity of the reason of their pronouncation of Mario to be with the MAR enunciation. Since, to me- at least, I read this with the 'ae' vowel. I am unsure phonetically how they pronounce their vowels for 'water' for example. That is why I was asking, for clarification instead of assumption.
Oh and- mind you, it wasn't my intention to assume "all northerners" speak with such accent or enunciation. I am full aware that even within multiple towns that accents varies. Not all those of Yorkshire descent or origin pronounce words the same. However, this is the case for me. I hope my reply comes as a sense of closure and not conflict.
@@stargazewholly7689 you misunderstood my intentions, I was joking
Also, the “a” in Marry sounds completely different in American.
Call me crazy! But I don't hear a difference.
@@nintendofan8656 British a is ah, but American a is ae.
I know that but they sound the same in my ears. #Ican'tcontrolmyears
@Baibac
Not to be rude.
I grew up around a lot of Italians so I always knew it was "marry." Also it's Tri-co, as in ico part 3, as in tricycle/tripod. Not freakin "tree-co". And for the last time it's Ko-kiri-ko not cock-a-reek-ho!!!
Note: clearly I commented before I watched. So all the "Italians" I know were still raised in America and somehow learned the British pronunciation is correct. Which is even another layer to this onion.
As the grandnephew of a full-blooded Italian named "Mario", it is actually meant to be pronounced "Mä-rē-ō".
Was he also a plumber by any chance?
@@necrobach4854 No. lol
I don't think I'm actually allowed to say what he did.
@@ThatAnArchyDude Say no more
@@ThatAnArchyDude Say no more
It's an I, not an E
The correct way is MA-RIO
(3:30) I'd like to say he's wrong. He said that cat is pronounced [kät], but it's rather [kæt]. So it's still not the correct vowel quality.
I’m baffled that you can hear his voice saying “Mario” and still call it “Merry-o”. Doesn’t bother me, but it’s just crazy that we speak the same language but still have some sort of language barrier.
Same, baffles me. He’s like “It’s-a-me, Maaaahhhhh-rio” but somehow ppl still interpret it as the short /æ/ as in “cat”(/kæt/)? So instead of that Xmas song FaLaLaLaLa being an “ah” sound they’re hearing /æ/ the whole time? Mind boggling.
And btw, no matter British or American we all say the name Mary the same, with /æ/ not ah, so there is no confusion in sound perception between the accents. Just ppl not paying attention. Lol
@@BokuWaKaybo Exactly!! It's so crazy
What do you mean "Merry-o"? There's no E sound at all.
@@SuperCookie64 Right, there shouldn't be an E sound, but that is how this youtuber (and apparently all British people according to him) pronounce it. There shouldn't be an E at all. It's not merry-o (or marry-o), it's Mario. Like mah-rio
@@Flareboxx What are you talking about? He's not saying "Merry-o", he's clearly saying "Marry-o", just like most British people say it. I don't think you watched the video anyway, as the American pronunciation isn't 100% accurate to the Italian one either.
Well in one of the games peach says mar-io but Luigi is his brother and knows him more and calls him marry-o
There’s something else that intrigues me. This is the first time I’ve heard a British person say “marry-o.” I’ve known many Americans, however, to say it that way. It’s not just an accent thing. People learn to say this word differently.
The only person I know that says it that way...is an Italian from New Jersey 😂 I don't think he speaks a lick of Italian though
I'm Italian and I remember commenting under that poll that neither option was the right one lol!
I'm very proud to have been proven right 😌 it's more like MAH-RYO
Australian here...
English is our main language & being ex-Brits, we use British grammar, not US. ("Colour" instead of "color", etc.)
It's MAR-io every day of the week, here. Never met a single person who's pronounced it the way you do, here.
I almost feel like you'd cop a VB longneck over the head if you said "Marry-Oh", Down Under.
And trust me, you don't want that.
Besides, in Super Mario Sunshine (the first Mario game I'd played with voice acting), I never once heard Peach's voice actor pronounce it "Marry-Oh"... But maybe that's because she's American.
Fun fact, she also voiced Cortana!
Although "A," in certain words is pronounced differently in Br/E and Am/E, sometimes they have the same pronounciation for the same words:
Think of the "A" that's used in the word "Mars," which is almost identical in both American English and British English pronounciations.
The "A" in the word "marry" is also similar in both pronounciations.
Most would agree that "Mario," falls under the former. And for a person who supposedly has a British accent, you would expect the "flattened" vowel to be preferred (think of how British would pronounce "last," compared to Americans, so I think it also has to do with the fact that the "twangier," version of "A" would be more likely to be expected of an American accent and not (supposedly paradoxically) with a British accent which somehow sounds out of place). I'm not saying one is correct over the other, just my theory of why it may sound especially jarring with a British accent.
I thought his name was Robert? I remember playing Super Robert Bros when I was a kid, truly a classic!
and in the sequel you could play as his brother Daniel!
you still thought his name is that
Lol..
I thought he was the Bing Bing Wahoo man
robert 64 is the greatest game of all time imo
1:40 Thomas I think you should mention that he also says it like this in newer games as some people may say “oh but that’s an older game it’s not relevant anymore”.
He does say it like this in Mario Odyssey.
Funny how I’ve already been saying it as “ma-ri-oh”, the proper Italian pronunciation.
The proper italian pronunciation has a real R sound
Mario sowns like he's saying mard-oh
Everyone: “you’re saying Mario wrong”
Me who interchanges between them:
I'M NOT ALONE
based pfp and username
Ive always pronounced it Muh-Roh
Same
This was actually really interesting. I never really noticed that it was more common for people in the UK to say Marry-oh. In the states if you go further north there are some states where people also pronounce it like Marry-oh instead of MAR-io.
Yeah, I feel like it’s common in the northeast
I have a large group of gamer friends in NJ (myself included) and nobody pronounces it that way here.
It's also interesting to hear how other Mario characters say it such as Peach, Rosalina and Toadsworth.
Also how people say ROZ-alina and ROSA-lina
Americans have been real quiet since this dropped.
Americans are loud.
In regards to the actual Mario voice acting from Charles Martinet, it depends on the specific voice clip for me. Some I hear it the "British way" and others the "American way". Either way it's certainly not something that has ever bothered me, whichever way it's pronounced.
I think it just depends on which region you grew up in. Certain regions say it more in the Italian way and others more English or other ways.
Edit: Lol I commented this before watching the video and realised after watching I basically just gave the direct answer of the video by making a guess XD
As a Spanish speaker, I can say that both pronunciations sound correct for your language.
It's funy to see people arguing over one, because none of them sound exactly like Nintendo intended, mainly due to the English pronunciation of the letter r.
So don't be so petulant with who doesn't have the same pronunciation.
toda la pta razon
Exacto, el problema no es la a es la r 😂
@@fathelph exacto, es la r, pero igual recorda que como dijeron, la "r", la "a" y la "o" del italiano (y por ende del español y del portugués, ya que las 3 vienen del latin) son muy distintas a la "r", la "a" y la "o" del ingles asi que ellos la adaptaron a su modo
You are absolutely right. As a Long Island New Yorker that’s how it’s said. I hate when people say mahr-io, it’s like fingernails on the chalkboard.
As long as I understand what you're talking about, I dont care how you pronounce it. That said, I took Italian classes so the "Marry-o" pronunciation used to bug me, but not anymore because it really doesn't matter. Probably biased, but the American way sounds closer to the Italian way to me. Also tons of people I've met over the years use the "Marry-o" pronunciation, so its not entirely localized to England. Sometimes as a joke I like to change up pronunciations of the same word in the same conversation. It's funny when people do a double take
Agree with your comment 100%
I always thought that his voice lines said “ah” and I always heard people say “ah” so I’ve always just said it as “ah” and I think it just sounds better this way.
Honestly I think some of the confusion probably comes from the fact that most English speakers aren't used to pronouncing the Italian "r" sound
Sega genesis hears a mother bleepin' who
Assuming that Mario pronounces his name Marryo, you would also have to assume he says Maimai Mia. It uses the same "ah" sound. My Uncle's name is actually Mario and my relatives are Spanish speakers. I think it sounds more closer to how Americans pronounce it. What a weird quirk how everyone hears it differently.
@Jesse Mathis Yeah. I mean it's really hard to understand the way other people's mouths work. What an interesting idea brought up by Thomas today
1:20 i hear mar'yo
Can we just take a second to appreciate the effort Thomas goes through to make these videos
The British comment at the start was hella offensive. Why do Americans have the idea that they’re right majority of the time, and that if an accent makes someone say it differently, that’s wrong?
ITS RACIST 😠
Linguistic is so interesting! Thank you for all the work and thanks to yoïn for giving such cool explanations!
It's interesting to me that as an Australian, we're usually aligned with British English over American English, but we all say Mah-rio over here
Australian English is probably more accurate than either because Australian English uses a long vowel somewhere in between the two, /ɐː/.
I also pronounce ‘Mario’ as ‘Marry-o’ since I’m from the uk, other people probably say it like that too even if they aren’t from the uk though.
yep, i'm from the uk too and i do the same
Rich, the guy from ReviewTechUSA is american, and also says "Marry-O" lol
I say it like Mar-io
Má-rio 👍
I am from the US and I say Marry-o
This is a very interesting video! I'm an American English speaker and I have a very rough and basic grasp of Japanese as a language. Ever since I started learning Japanese, my understanding of how Mario says his name in the games has completely changed. I now hear it much closer to マリオ. I wonder how the perception of Mario's name differs slightly between Italian and Japanese speakers, as the sounds seem very similar but Japanese and Italian definitely sound extremely different, at least to my ears.
I think you should have had an Italian version of the saying Mario.
If he wanted it settled, he should have gotten a Japanese man to settle it.
the more you hear the two together, the more they blend.
when it comes to foreign words and names, I tend to go with the original pronunciation the best that I can. that goes for words like "Mario" and "ocarina"; both are Italian, so MAH-ri-OH and OH-kah-REE-nah.
It's usually less confusing to go with the localized version. German does generally maintain the foreign pronunciations of loanwords and it's one of the harder aspects of the language. Because there are English words they borrowed, German words that English borrowed and German words that English borrowed which were then borrowed back into German and God help you to know which way any of those should be pronounced properly. Fortunately, it rarely leads to serious miscommunications, but it is confusing.
5:55 I think that you should call it the hell you want (also, if you call it the way the USA calls it, the person hearing it will say that your america and vice-versa with the UK).
This is so interesting - I started the video thinking you were just *so* wrong for hearing the N64 pronunciation as “Marry-o” but our dialects just don’t have this sound usually so we each hear it our own way. Wow! So cool
That's the same reason Americans think Canadians say aboot instead of about. We have a vowel that they don't have or hear.
If that was true then why do we clearly hear the difference between how he pronounces it and how Martinet pronounces it? Even that British commercial sounded different from Thomas. Speaking of which, if he just pronounced the "A" in "Mario" like the "O" in "Thomas" I wouldn't think it sounded much different.
@@new0newsfook
People always try to make things more complicated when they’re wrong.
Mario himself says MAR-io
Nuff said.
No he doesn’t.
Thanks for making this video, as a person who speaks Spanish it was always weird to me why english speakers always pronounced Mario so wierd, specially because Mario him self says his name properly (despite other characters pronounce it incorrectly lol)
ikr? imagine having multiple a-like sounds. Qué escandaloso.
Same energy as dream hiring an astrophysicist
No, it’s murio
OH MY GOSH I FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE WHO PRONOUNCES IT THE SAME WAY AS ME!
As a non-native english speaker, the two versions are almost identical to me. I didn't even realize there was a difference before it was pointed out, and even then I have a little trouble spotting it.
It's a little funny how you all get worked up about the pronunciation of the "A" but totally ignore the "R".
Same!
5:36 Ace Attorney music
I always thought that it was marry-oh and mario just held the ah sound to give it a sort of fun and welcoming effect. Finding out that it is said in Italian kinda surprised me. I do think british is the closest, because the a sound in british is just a shortened version of the Italian version but the American is just an entire new sound, just the same length.
Thank you. The British version is literally objectively closer to the Italian pronunciation. People saying otherwise are linguistically illiterate.
That's how we say it in the Philadelphia area. MAH-RIO. Our A is similar to the British A in that way.
What I find funny is I've never noticed your pronunciation, but when someone with an american accent (I believe Jake from Gameranx does this) pronounces it "marry-oh" it's quite noticeable.
Same here. Another American RUclipsr, Rich from ReviewTechUSA also pronounces it as Marry-oh.
I'm Italian, and before the professional spoke, i was thinking: "wait, they're both not how we pronounce it". Now i know why😂😂
Honestly, I think it's a little ridiculous because they're analyzing the speech patterns of a character that's a literal stereotype by the Japanese of what they think the name should sound like. Because if there's one thing that the Japanese are known for, it's the accurate pronunciation of Italian words using the letter "R." We're very lucky that it's not Malio and Ruigi.
The only correct way to say it is in the original way they say it in Italian because it’s original.