Love love love this entire video. I never traveled on a train. I'm planning this summer. I don't care where I just want to ride one. Thanks for such a FANTASTIC and informative video.
Tim - Thank you for making this series of videos on the many commuter lines on Long Island, New York, and New Jersey. It is very interesting to see that region of the US from the perspective your camera provides. Thank you for that effort. Along the same thought, are you watching the NJT active work in the restoration of part of the Lackawanna Cutoff? Quite a bit of track has been laid already it seems. Interesting to see something that was taken out of service so long ago being resurrected!!
Grew up in Paterson and used to go to Lake Hopatcong all the time in the summer. My Uncle worked summers at Lees Park in Mt Arlington before it became a county park. Great memories of the lake and Bertrand’s Island Amusement Park in the 50s and 60s.,Keep up the great videos!
It really took me back when you mentioned the Thomas Edison cars! I still remember the little opening venalition windows in the summer, the rattan seat covers, and the vestigal cow-catcher on the front!
At 45:47 Kahn Road was a horn zone up until 2021 when the quad gate signals were installed 2 years earlier. Additionally, past that crossing was a private crossing for an apartment complex with just crossbucks and a stop sign, but that was also removed.
I think I remember a Sopranos scene where Tony is waiting to meet somebody in a deserted parking lot in the Meadowlands, and believe it or not, a train on the old Boonton line passes by right behind him. The scene was shot in the late '90s, and I think the old Boonton line was abandoned in 2002.
That wasn't the Boonton Line. It was the old Erie Newark Branch or Greenwood Lake Branch. The Boonton Line is intact from where it branches off the Morris & Essex Line just west of the Bergen Tunnels to Denville, except for the section between South Paterson & Totowa. Up to South Paterson, it's called the Main Line. At Mountain View, it's joined to the old Greenwood Lake Branch.
@@erie910all of that is historically accurate but even so, the ex-NY & Greenwood Lake line had pretty thoroughly taken on the identity of being part of the Boonton Line by the time it was abandoned.
I have not ridden the Dover or Gladstone lines since the Farewell to the old MU's back in 1984. But while on break in NY once I rode out to Montclair U niversity.
For info - in early December ('23) the Federal Railroad Administration blessed Amtrak's proposed Scranton - NYC service via the Lackawanna Cutoff with (up to) $500K for more planning-related activity, so at least it got past *that* hurdle. If you ever get a chance, you might want to go have a look at what the NJ Transit contractor is doing about restoring the right-of-way from Lake Hopatcong/Port Morris Yard to Andover, also along the Lackawanna Cutoff, including bringing the Roseville Tunnel back into serviceable shape. With any luck, you'll be able to add that 7 mile (or so) stretch to your log-book in two or three years. Hang in there!
I actually have the North Coast line by Railroad video productions but that was a Cab ride with the Cab car ride and the F40PH Locomotive on NJ Transit
The storage yard west of Morristown at about 49:40 in the video did indeed have overhead wires. Back in the old Edison MU days, there were quite a few trains that would run Morristown-Hoboken-Morristown. The service was truly exceptional in those days, as those Morristown-Hoboken trains would run local during the day outside of the morning and evening rush hour, but there would also be express service originating in Dover that would run local Dover-Summit, then express to Newark and then Hoboken. It made the ride from the farther out stations like Morris Plains much better than what the off-peak service is today where ALL off-peak trains are LOCAL, thus making the trip MUCH longer than it used to be.
I’m really glad to hear more automated announcements on New Jersey transit. Have you noticed an increase likelihood to have them during your recent trips?
About those NJT arrow mu's ... "they don't make them like they used too" It seems like they took the time to make things with QUALITY back in the day anyway nice video man...
This line is already very cool but will be even better when Amtrak is on this line whenever that may finish. And I agree with you about the no weekend service. You think there would be weekend service with the DP locomotives and Amtrak going through this line on weekends. Even if the service was only to Lake Hopatcong it would still be good weekend service. Especially if weekend service used the Montclair Boonton Line. That way every station on the Morris & Essex and Montclair Boonton Lines are serivced 7 days a week. They could do what Metro North does on the Waterbury Branch on weekends and operate like five round trips per day on weekends.
I am surprised there is not even a shuttle between Hackettstown and Dover on the weekends! I believe the Gladstone branch at least runs to Summit on the weekends.
@@transitriderproductionsNot just that. Tim also said he’d like to see full service from Hackettstown to Penn Station. Neither of these is possible. Penn Station can barely manage the volume of trains it has now, and there is likely no weekend service to Hackettstown because (as you said) NJT doesn’t want to add a full on train for the 100 or less people that will even use it on the weekends. Although I do believe the MoBo should have weekend service to, at the very least, MSU.
I live in the West New York and North Bergen and Union City area so I take a lot the Hudson Bergen Light Rail train all the time to Hoboken and Transfer to the Morris Line in Hoboken when going to visit my moms she live in Morristown, NJ.
The Lackawanna Montclair Branch now is connected to the old Erie Greenwood Lake Branch at Montclair. The Greenwood Lake Branch connects with the Boonton Line at Mountain View.
@ 1:35:24 you are passing through the Corporate Homebase of M&M Mars Wrigley....not the birthplace of M&M candy, but the manufacturing and corporate operations of all of M&M Mars Wrigley plants and facilities !!!
As someone who lived in Hackettstown it’s quite nice out there but there ain’t nothing to do, there was a cool game store there but they left and not having trains around certain days is kinda of drag so car it is.
It's a real nice ride along the M&E but NJT has never shown any willingness to clean up the mounds of trash between Summit and Kearny. It's a huge third world eyesore and an embarrassment.
another great video , you always give so much information
the gentleman doing the narration sounds like he knows his train shit,,,,,,,,a real train fan,,,im watching this in july 2024,,,i love this stuff
Love love love this entire video. I never traveled on a train. I'm planning this summer. I don't care where I just want to ride one. Thanks for such a FANTASTIC and informative video.
Hope you have fun!
Tim - Thank you for making this series of videos on the many commuter lines on Long Island, New York, and New Jersey. It is very interesting to see that region of the US from the perspective your camera provides. Thank you for that effort. Along the same thought, are you watching the NJT active work in the restoration of part of the Lackawanna Cutoff? Quite a bit of track has been laid already it seems. Interesting to see something that was taken out of service so long ago being resurrected!!
Thank you for taking me along for the ride! I thoroughly enjoyed the trip through northern NJ, and your narration added to the enjoyment!
,,,,,,back in the eighties and nineties ; i did alot of driving to 280 into rt 80 ,,,,,always loved seein all the jersey rail lines
Grew up in Paterson and used to go to Lake Hopatcong all the time in the summer. My Uncle worked summers at Lees Park in Mt Arlington before it became a county park. Great memories of the lake and Bertrand’s Island Amusement Park in the 50s and 60s.,Keep up the great videos!
It really took me back when you mentioned the Thomas Edison cars! I still remember the little opening venalition windows in the summer, the rattan seat covers, and the vestigal cow-catcher on the front!
Its so cool seeing you going into my territory! Hackettstown is the nearest station to me.
At 45:47 Kahn Road was a horn zone up until 2021 when the quad gate signals were installed 2 years earlier.
Additionally, past that crossing was a private crossing for an apartment complex with just crossbucks and a stop sign, but that was also removed.
Loved this video. I rode the “old main line” back in the sixties on an RRE fan trip.
Morris Plains is where I get off to go visit my sister. Beautiful City.
I think I remember a Sopranos scene where Tony is waiting to meet somebody in a deserted parking lot in the Meadowlands, and believe it or not, a train on the old Boonton line passes by right behind him. The scene was shot in the late '90s, and I think the old Boonton line was abandoned in 2002.
That wasn't the Boonton Line. It was the old Erie Newark Branch or Greenwood Lake Branch. The Boonton Line is intact from where it branches off the Morris & Essex Line just west of the Bergen Tunnels to Denville, except for the section between South Paterson & Totowa. Up to South Paterson, it's called the Main Line. At Mountain View, it's joined to the old Greenwood Lake Branch.
@@erie910all of that is historically accurate but even so, the ex-NY & Greenwood Lake line had pretty thoroughly taken on the identity of being part of the Boonton Line by the time it was abandoned.
I have not ridden the Dover or Gladstone lines since the Farewell to the old MU's back in 1984. But while on break in NY once I rode out to Montclair U niversity.
I like how you said French Onion Soup with the NJ transit 4016 with the PL42AC
For info - in early December ('23) the Federal Railroad Administration blessed Amtrak's proposed Scranton - NYC service via the Lackawanna Cutoff with (up to) $500K for more planning-related activity, so at least it got past *that* hurdle.
If you ever get a chance, you might want to go have a look at what the NJ Transit contractor is doing about restoring the right-of-way from Lake Hopatcong/Port Morris Yard to Andover, also along the Lackawanna Cutoff, including bringing the Roseville Tunnel back into serviceable shape. With any luck, you'll be able to add that 7 mile (or so) stretch to your log-book in two or three years. Hang in there!
I actually have the North Coast line by Railroad video productions but that was a Cab ride with the Cab car ride and the F40PH Locomotive on NJ Transit
I think Prendental center is nearby here at Newark NJ were NJ Devils play Hockey
As someone who lives within walking distance of Mt Arlington Station, I agree with what you say @1:12:00
The storage yard west of Morristown at about 49:40 in the video did indeed have overhead wires. Back in the old Edison MU days, there were quite a few trains that would run Morristown-Hoboken-Morristown. The service was truly exceptional in those days, as those Morristown-Hoboken trains would run local during the day outside of the morning and evening rush hour, but there would also be express service originating in Dover that would run local Dover-Summit, then express to Newark and then Hoboken. It made the ride from the farther out stations like Morris Plains much better than what the off-peak service is today where ALL off-peak trains are LOCAL, thus making the trip MUCH longer than it used to be.
I live in Budd Lake I wish I knew you were down here. I’m from Jamaica Queens but am about to start the LETP for Locomotive Engineer.
I’m glad you saw me at Maplewood railfaning
I don’t know if I saw you personally there
Definitely a better view on a cloudy day.
Nice scenery. Thank you Tim😀💚
Don't know that much about NJT but Summit station looks like it needs renovating or at least repaint the bricks.
I’m really glad to hear more automated announcements on New Jersey transit. Have you noticed an increase likelihood to have them during your recent trips?
They sound better than the stupid mispronounced station names at the stations themselves. “Mont-clairrrrrrgh”
About those NJT arrow mu's ... "they don't make them like they used too"
It seems like they took the time to make things with QUALITY back in the day anyway nice video man...
This line is already very cool but will be even better when Amtrak is on this line whenever that may finish. And I agree with you about the no weekend service. You think there would be weekend service with the DP locomotives and Amtrak going through this line on weekends. Even if the service was only to Lake Hopatcong it would still be good weekend service. Especially if weekend service used the Montclair Boonton Line. That way every station on the Morris & Essex and Montclair Boonton Lines are serivced 7 days a week. They could do what Metro North does on the Waterbury Branch on weekends and operate like five round trips per day on weekends.
I am surprised there is not even a shuttle between Hackettstown and Dover on the weekends! I believe the Gladstone branch at least runs to Summit on the weekends.
Even on the RVL, there is no service west of Raritan on weekends.
The ridership is too low for weekend service. I will wait when they extend to Andover in 2027 or ahead, that when NJT will add weekend service.
@@transitriderproductionsNot just that. Tim also said he’d like to see full service from Hackettstown to Penn Station. Neither of these is possible. Penn Station can barely manage the volume of trains it has now, and there is likely no weekend service to Hackettstown because (as you said) NJT doesn’t want to add a full on train for the 100 or less people that will even use it on the weekends. Although I do believe the MoBo should have weekend service to, at the very least, MSU.
Love the videos and the history. Have you done some of the MARC trains and also the North Jersey Coast Line?
Did Jersey Coast line
At 1:21:29, these mutilevels are damaged from Hurricane Sandy so that is why they parked it there.
Madison and Chatham are very expensive towns to live in, Morristown, too!!
I live in the West New York and North Bergen and Union City area so I take a lot the Hudson Bergen Light Rail train all the time to Hoboken and Transfer to the Morris Line in Hoboken when going to visit my moms she live in Morristown, NJ.
The Lackawanna Montclair Branch now is connected to the old Erie Greenwood Lake Branch at Montclair. The Greenwood Lake Branch connects with the Boonton Line at Mountain View.
I live in Madison, you just passed my place.
Can't wait to take this ride from Hackettstown to Hoboken
Already did it. ruclips.net/video/8Eo8c0pGP_Q/видео.html
Hope you have new video back to Hoboken?
@ 1:35:24 you are passing through the Corporate Homebase of M&M Mars Wrigley....not the birthplace of M&M candy, but the manufacturing and corporate operations of all of M&M Mars Wrigley plants and facilities !!!
I used live nearby and every morning when I was kid I always smell chocolates.That building is the HQ but they have several plants all over the world
9:34 Comet III Coach 5522
Since your in "Soprano Land" it's time to switch from French Onion Soup and enjoy some Linguine with Clam Sauce..😋
Ba-da-bing!!!!
Yuck !!!!!
[1:24:45] Your Popeye impersonation is spot on!
Ha ha that must have been associated with the Mount Olive Station
The Lake Cities was an Erie train.
As someone who lived in Hackettstown it’s quite nice out there but there ain’t nothing to do, there was a cool game store there but they left and not having trains around certain days is kinda of drag so car it is.
I think they need weekend service
It's an ALP45A
It's a real nice ride along the M&E but NJT has never shown any willingness to clean up the mounds of trash between Summit and Kearny. It's a huge third world eyesore and an embarrassment.
philly you got a bucks county accent bro,,,
I never thought I had that
this beats driving,, why is there so little mass trans in the u,s, i live in the lehigh valley there is no train service at all
how fast do these trains move it looks like 40 mph
60-70 in places.
i think these trains are electric motors powered by diesel generators