Arrow II Cabride Morris & Essex/Gladstone Branch Hoboken to Gladstone 1990 - NJ Transit

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  • Опубликовано: 25 апр 2023
  • Full cabride in a General Electric Arrow II from Hoboken Terminal to Gladstone, NJ in the summer of 1990.
    Yes, you read that right, Arrow II's.
    Before 1996, Arrow III's and Arrow II's ran alongside with each other and sometimes even coupled with married consists. The Arrow II's were ultimately retired in the same year due to the rotting floors and holes in the ceiling.
    Only two Arrow II's remain in existence as a shoving platform for SEPTA's "Wire Trains", the rest of the fleet was scrapped.
    There are some slight audio issues with the transfer as well…
    Some notable things to mention:
    19:43 - The engineer mentions the "planning of connecting the Boonton and Montclair lines" as they approached the Roseville Avenue interlocking. That "plan" became a reality nine years later, and twelve years later, the first train rolled through the now Montclair Connection on September 30th, 2002.
    20:30 - Grove Street Station in East Orange was still open, but extremely dilapidated. It closed the following spring on April 7th,1991.
    47:50 - The engineer mentions that the four-way grade crossing in New Providence has "gates now and it's much better", which suggests that the crossing was recently put in. Prior to 1990, the crossing still had traffic lights, but just flashing lights and bells. And throughout the second half of the video starting at 53:23 with Union Ave were gateless. At least less than a dozen still had flashers and bells, no gates.
    54:52, The Snyder Ave grade crossing still has the freight siding, which at the time Conrail (predecessor to Norfolk Southern's H-02) had trackage rights with NJ Transit. The last customer was in 2007, and the siding was permanently closed sometime in the late 2000's into the early to mid 2010's.
    55:54, Berkeley Heights still had a manually controlled and timed siding. It still exists today as a storage track.
    1:06:37 - Millington still retained its siding as well, this was removed sometime in the late 1990's into the turn of the century.
    1:08:33 - For a split second, there's a relay case with a crossing bell, possibly a warning device to warn the quarry workers on the oncoming train. According to Google Maps, just south of the viaduct, the relay case still exists, but with big bushes and fences, it is inaccessible to the public.
    1:17:53 - The private crossing in Bernardsville has possibly two WRRS type N-N? gate mechanisms
    with one bell, no flashers, and an advance warning sign on both ends of the crossing in place of a crossbuck.
    1:22:11 - Far Hills siding wasn't predominately used at the time and could only be accessible by telephone and permission by Hoboken. As of 2023, it is an electronically dispatched controlled siding. It was reactivated sometime in the late 1990's or early 2000's.
    1:27:53 - Park Ave crossing still exists today as a protected ungated crossing; the only remanents of the signal on the far left-hand side is the base itself. Everything was upgraded as the years went on. Also, note that they went track speed as they rolled through Gladstone. Track speed today, with the amount of weekday trains on that line is around 10-15MPH. The trains then, and based on morbid curiosity were around 20 MPH.
    **NOTICE: Footage belongs to Railroad Video Productions. Footage has been ripped from a VHS tape and digitally restored in order to share with others and for educational/historical purposes and is listed under "fair use".
    I do NOT intend to make any profit off of this video and the rights go to the respected videographers and Walter Berko himself**

Комментарии • 24

  • @johndunworth4176
    @johndunworth4176 7 месяцев назад +4

    Omg. I was 8, maybe 9 years old. I grew up in New Providence. So from Summit to Berkeley Heights brought back so many memories. From the NP station, the fire siren visible going over the Maple St bridge, the 4 way crossing, Murray Hill, Union Ave crossing before gates, the chemical company off Snyder Ave....the only freight on the Gladstone branch. Thank you for sharing this!!!!

  • @jaymorgenthal9479
    @jaymorgenthal9479 Месяц назад

    I wish there was a video shot when the line power was DC. with those great EL&W mu’s but this one is fantastic. He points out the Montclair single track and remarks there are plans to tie it into the Booton line which was completed Sept 30,2002.

  • @harrychest4303
    @harrychest4303 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome. This line is so different now.

  • @matthewzagar3175
    @matthewzagar3175 6 месяцев назад

    Easily the best video of it's kind that I've ever seen. Makes me want to take a trip to Gladstone>

  • @_mynewcareer
    @_mynewcareer Год назад +1

    Thanks for uploading

  • @toocoolforreel
    @toocoolforreel 5 месяцев назад

    For the first time ever in my life I ride this New Jersey Transit train from Hoboken to Gladstone around 2001 best memories though.

  • @transitriderproductions
    @transitriderproductions 11 месяцев назад

    Now that is a classic video!

  • @averyrizzolo9082
    @averyrizzolo9082 Год назад +1

    22:09 - nostalgic interiors!

  • @thomasnativo6491
    @thomasnativo6491 Год назад +2

    I only have the Pascack Valley line Cab ride with the U34CH NJT 4172 and Main and Bergen County line with the GP40FH-2 and GP40PH-2B NJ Transit 4101 from Hoboken Terminal to Suffern NY

    • @thomasnativo6491
      @thomasnativo6491 Год назад

      The Pascack Valley line Cab ride with the U34CH NJDOT 4172 from Hoboken Terminal to Spring Valley NY short Cab ride to Woodbine yard

  • @mr.conductorfromsts4204
    @mr.conductorfromsts4204 Год назад +3

    I love the sound of the Leslie S2M from Arrow II’s. Although, I hadn’t seen it before or heard it before and unfortunately. I love the Arrows, and so does Victor (Arrow III Railfan). Right now we’ve got the last Arrow EMU’s Arrow III with the magnificent WABCO AA2.

  • @MidnightAspec
    @MidnightAspec Год назад +1

    42:40 a mixed consist of two Arrow IIs and a trailing Arrow III

  • @egbutler114
    @egbutler114 Год назад +2

    I miss running the GE Silverliner IV's. The Arrow II's are very similar, with the horn and propulsion. The air brake is different with the S IV's having a blended dynamic brake system.

    • @Rittersport88
      @Rittersport88 10 месяцев назад +1

      What is the minimum amount of air required for a station stop?

    • @egbutler114
      @egbutler114 10 месяцев назад

      @@Rittersport88 depends on speed and distance. With the S IV'S, the dynamic blend out and air brakes come on around 15mph.

    • @Rittersport88
      @Rittersport88 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@egbutler114 Sorry, I meant when you're stopped at a station, how much air must be applied while the doors are open?

    • @egbutler114
      @egbutler114 10 месяцев назад

      @eli4081 the doors and brake applied are not linked. The engineer only needs enough to keep the train stopped. The cars do have motion detection that will keep the doors closed.

  • @christophercancel934
    @christophercancel934 Год назад +2

    Is there one of the Morristown Line?

  • @stuartlee6622
    @stuartlee6622 8 месяцев назад

    Jackie Onaisses had a hunting lodge in Peapack and she'd often go there to ride horses!

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 9 месяцев назад +1

    These platforms are short if you compare them to something like the Pennsylvania Railroad the electric territory platforms are longer
    1:13:19 I-287 North Morristown White Plains New York Tappan Zee Bridge
    I-78 exits for Basking Ridge to summit are 36-45

  • @thomasnativo6491
    @thomasnativo6491 Год назад +2

    You think you could upload the Pascack Valley line Cab ride and Erie Main and Bergen County line Cab ride and the Atlantic city and North Coast line