How to spot a Fake Jeep!

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  • @eriksalas5422
    @eriksalas5422 2 года назад +721

    Thanks for fixing my "Jeep" Ray. Much appreciated. I actually wanted to replace all the injectors, but was told the necessary quantity weren't going to be available for some time. The last place to have that taken apart was the dealership to replace the cylinder 4 injector, so it's disappointing (but not surprising) that they broke it. Anyway, when (not if) the next injector fails, I'll make sure the rest are replaced. Also, at the end of the video... you're not wrong.

    • @RainmanRaysRepairs
      @RainmanRaysRepairs  2 года назад +155

      👋😁

    • @rajbeekie7124
      @rajbeekie7124 2 года назад +177

      WOW, someone seeing his own vehicle. This is cool.

    • @eriksalas5422
      @eriksalas5422 2 года назад +164

      It really is. I've been watching Ray's videos for a long time. Think I've seen pretty much all of them. It's great content.

    • @RainmanRaysRepairs
      @RainmanRaysRepairs  2 года назад +104

      @@eriksalas5422 thx Erik

    • @timothygeiger8271
      @timothygeiger8271 2 года назад +24

      @@eriksalas5422 it is a disappointment for you that you couldn't replace all the injectors at once, that's two now, eventually the rest are going to fail.

  • @iamdonkehote
    @iamdonkehote 2 года назад +130

    I, a non-mechanic type, fell asleep watching this channel last week. Since then, I have changed my own oil, replaced a worn wheel hub that was frozen in place, solved a problem with my A/C compressor, and grew all my hair back. Thanks, Rainman Ray!

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 2 года назад +2

      Mechanicing doesn't seem to be helping Richard Holdener with his hair...

    • @stevekleinhenz8262
      @stevekleinhenz8262 2 года назад +2

      Welcome to the Planet!

    • @peted5217
      @peted5217 2 года назад

      Growing all hair bak in a week is a

  • @fjg1956
    @fjg1956 2 года назад +90

    In the snow belt of Northern PA it's relatively easy to spot a real Jeep. Simply sit in the car and firmly stomp your boot onto the floorboard. If it goes through the rust, it's a real Jeep.

    • @mitchhedberg4415
      @mitchhedberg4415 2 года назад

      Or a Nissan

    • @jarvisfamily3837
      @jarvisfamily3837 2 года назад +2

      Some of my fondest memories are of driving to Erie in January for gymnastics meets.
      Some of my even more fondest memories are of driving *away* from Erie in January. 😁

    • @kitsunelegend7976
      @kitsunelegend7976 2 года назад +2

      As someone who owns an '04 Cherokee and lives in South Central PA (not far from Harrisburg) I can attest that this comment is VERY true lol

  • @Fail-Safe-1
    @Fail-Safe-1 2 года назад +1

    09 Jeep Liberty owner here. Bought the Jeep brand spanking new 13 years ago from a dealer show room. Regular maintenance since day one, replaced simple parts here and there and my Jeep still runs amazing. Not a lot of people is a fan of Pentastar engines but I really never had problems with it. Maybe I just got lucky. But Jeeps are amazing if you maintain them regularly. Still love mine. 332,000 plus kms. Still runs awesome.

    • @RJARRRPCGP
      @RJARRRPCGP 2 года назад

      Libertys never had a Pentastar. It's the 3.7 V6, which was before Pentastar. The last model year, was 2012.

  • @twothreefour234
    @twothreefour234 2 года назад +120

    As a retired wrench, there are times I miss the shop Thanks Ray for bridging the gap a bit for me. It's good to hang with you and stay up on the newer stuff. Like your attitude, keep up the good works!

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind 2 года назад +2

      So before you retired did you think there would be times when you missed the shop or were you "just done with it"? TBH there is a bit more than my simple curiosity banking on this question. Also how long have you been retired and how long was it before you began to miss it?
      Thanks

    • @twothreefour234
      @twothreefour234 2 года назад +5

      @@InsideOfMyOwnMind Disabilaty knocked me out 2004. I kept tools and did work out of a residential garage a few years waiting on SS. Then, would help a couple buddies. You know buy me lunch and beer kinda things.
      I grew up in tool shops, I have always missed the atmosphere, the smells, working with hands. Working with real men and getting away from the females crap.
      Now, I sold off 99% of tools and do very little. Mainly due to physically I can not. I'm in an apt so there's that too. Hope that helps. Thinking you have to decide wether to stick to it or move on. If you can get into something with more potential it might be a good idea. Everything and I mean everything is stacking up against independents. Good luck my friend, wish you every success whatever you decide.

    • @veroa1985
      @veroa1985 2 года назад +4

      I too have been out o the field for a while. Sometimes I miss it. Ray's vids help. I love his work ethic and honesty!

    • @Pie4life123
      @Pie4life123 2 года назад +1

      Geezer

    • @spelunkerd
      @spelunkerd 2 года назад +1

      There's something very interesting about the demographic in Ray's viewer list. Judging from the comments, there seem to be lots of guys who are now retired, who did this kind of work for a living. I understand the compelling attraction to all things mechanical, and the chance to see engines that are newer and designed differently. However I'm not sure I completely understand watching a procedure one might have done thousands of times in the past. Even so, it's nice to be part of a community with such a wealth of past experience. I always look forward to fresh insight that one can sometimes find in the comments section, like the remarks in this thread.

  • @orellaminx3530
    @orellaminx3530 2 года назад +1

    16:04 Auto-stop/start, number one killer of fuel injectors since its inception, because they've never been beefed up to handle all the extra hard cycling that takes place.

  • @toshayonguard4253
    @toshayonguard4253 2 года назад +4

    I always found a floor fan behind me always kept the Bugs at Bay and blows the Brake Kleen fumes away from me. 🤟🏻🇺🇸

  • @F8lastcallcharger345
    @F8lastcallcharger345 2 года назад +1

    I know my 2020 Jeep Cherokee with the. 2.4 multiair is a Fiat but I like driving it. My other daily is a 2000 7.3 PSD and the KL keeps the miles off my F250. I just sent my 5200 OCI Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w-20 to Blackstone and all was good. The dealer said every 3k but I think that is due to oil consumption issue but mine does not burn oil. I have installed a battery and a right strut in 23k under warranty. I did not know it was not a real Jeep but oh well. I just hope the multiair holds up, it is designed to run at 230 degrees before the cooling fan comes on with the AC off and I think that is warm but the dealer said it is “ operating as designed”.

  • @superduty4828
    @superduty4828 2 года назад +122

    Ah the Fiat family keeping the lights on for our mechanics across the globe. Great job Ray!!
    60k-ish miles and injectors already craping out.

    • @breezy1849
      @breezy1849 2 года назад +25

      FIAT is an acronym for Fix It Again Tony..... has been known as that for over 60 years!!!!!!

    • @mlieser1230
      @mlieser1230 2 года назад +14

      Fix It Again Tony and again and again and again.....

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 2 года назад +13

      Fiats have a bad rep. in europe regarding reliability, people buy them just because they are one of the cheapest cars you can buy new and used

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 2 года назад +22

      Failed Italian attempt at transportation

    • @perwestermark8920
      @perwestermark8920 2 года назад +10

      @@breezy1849 I have heard it as Fix It Again Tomorrow.

  • @billmilosz
    @billmilosz 2 года назад +2

    Ray has a very good understanding of electrical physics, functional electronics and digital control concepts, something which you really need with vehicles nowadays. He has a 'live' picture of the system in his head. "ECM is not seeing a voltage drop so it assumes the injector solenoid is open" - not everyone understands the systems used nowadays to this level.

  • @yogiberraslovechild3080
    @yogiberraslovechild3080 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for explaining what you are going to do, then doing it, then explaining what you did! Love the details of the diagnosis procedures.

  • @vilefly
    @vilefly 2 года назад +1

    The newer jeep injectors have issues with the coil windings overheating and failing. Sometimes, they won't fail until they are hot. Always check the resistance of the other injectors while you have it apart so that you can see if another is on its way out. It is preferable to check the resistance when hot, but impractical when they are hard to get to. If they are hard to get to, I go for the ECM connectors and measure there so I don't burn my fingers.

  • @johnsteger
    @johnsteger 2 года назад +63

    If a Jeep is sitting at a shop to get fixed it's real 😅🤣

  • @posterboyrob
    @posterboyrob 2 года назад +1

    I'm in Hillsborough right next door to you. Yes, park it under an oak tree a couple of days... mice chew right at that point. Retired mechanic here. In the game from 1977-2021... and yes, 3.6L. You can reuse the intake gaskets no issue.

  • @TheCorpsehatch
    @TheCorpsehatch 2 года назад +11

    2:12 This is one of those times it would be nice to be able to put your right hand on your left arm and left hand on your right arm. Had lots of those situations when I did computer repair trying to unplug it in a hard to reach area.

  • @RuralTowner
    @RuralTowner 2 года назад

    4:50 PLOT TWIST! Ray went through the trouble to manually ROTOSCOPE the segment...1 frame @ a time for us...no fancy digital effects...

  • @fzrewagfzaerfer
    @fzrewagfzaerfer 2 года назад +50

    Clever! The customer got a step-by-step video instruction free with the price of just one injector... next time it's a DIY repair.

    • @rajbeekie7124
      @rajbeekie7124 2 года назад +1

      I doubt there is any savings since the labor cost is the same to replace 1 or more. Also, the DIY is way more likely to make many mistakes.

    • @stephenwilliams6103
      @stephenwilliams6103 2 года назад

      Yes, also 🤔, I think that the ecu needs to be told that it has a new injector fitted & there is a code on said injector which needs input from diagnostic equipment 🤔... But, I might be wrong🙃😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @thehulkamaniabrother2.089
      @thehulkamaniabrother2.089 2 года назад +7

      @@stephenwilliams6103 Naw it's not a Mercedes Benz lolz it's just a jeep. Jeep hasn't gotten that overengineered yet and I hope they never do something like that.

  • @jl2481
    @jl2481 2 года назад +1

    A V6 should push that slug pretty good.

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 2 года назад +4

    As a 17 Cherokee owner and live in an area where I am having to pull onto a hwy that is 70MPH speed, I disable the start stop every time I start the vehicle. It makes it much more responsive when you need to punch it to pull out. Wish there was a setting to permanently shut it off.

    • @franciscohernandezjr3057
      @franciscohernandezjr3057 2 года назад +1

      Same on my Land Rover. I personally hate it

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 2 года назад +2

      That's one of the things I really dislike about a lot of modern cars... they stall at every light.

    • @c....h...8803
      @c....h...8803 2 года назад +1

      Loosen the battery terminals and try to start it a handful of times. After a few failed starts with low voltage the computer will disable until dealer reset with a few brands of vehicles. May work with yours! Worked on mine. Rhymes with sword

    • @jamesorwig2453
      @jamesorwig2453 2 года назад +2

      I bought a device from auto stop eliminator for my f150 that disables the auto start stop . They make them for the jeeps too.

  • @md8206
    @md8206 2 года назад +1

    There are torque specs for a reason and torque sequence for a reason

  • @HammerJammer81
    @HammerJammer81 2 года назад +13

    Well done Dodge .. There is more Plastic in this engine bay than a Cheap strip Joint.

    • @noturkill9879
      @noturkill9879 2 года назад

      Blame stellantis. Not dodge. Dodge doesn't own jeep.

    • @hungryjack8032
      @hungryjack8032 2 года назад

      @@noturkill9879 at one point it was the same thing. The four door wranglers sit on dakota frames

    • @mitchhedberg4415
      @mitchhedberg4415 2 года назад

      @@hungryjack8032
      Grand Cherokee Durangos too

  • @jeremymcauliff8485
    @jeremymcauliff8485 2 года назад +2

    Gotta love FCA when they designed the Pentastar engines. Changing plugs or injectors requires the removal of the intake...brilliant!

    • @patricknesbitt4003
      @patricknesbitt4003 2 года назад +1

      If I had a nickel for every V6 that needed an intake plenum removed for basic maintenance I'd be retired now.

  • @chris76-01
    @chris76-01 2 года назад +11

    You like your job so much, you'll get to do it 4 more times as those other injectors fail. Assuming owner comes back to your location 😁

  • @blucy10
    @blucy10 2 года назад +1

    Ray, your words are magic! “Articulation of the phalanges” put a smile on my face.

  • @gunztommiegunz
    @gunztommiegunz 2 года назад +26

    You’re an AMAZING mechanic coming from a mechanic!!! I hope to be like you one day!

    • @randomschmo5778
      @randomschmo5778 2 года назад +1

      @@samjones1954 - Sam Jones is an obvious troll fake name. Here’s a quarter, in case you’re getting paid per reply.

    • @gunztommiegunz
      @gunztommiegunz 2 года назад

      @@samjones1954, you’d be lucky to have Ray on your team. That’s why you’re watching right? I guarantee he’s already found all “your tech’s” (bs) issues and would be worth gold but come on trolling like a miserable man….misery loves company and I’m not your company! And I don’t work on automotive I used to but now I work on heavy equipment and yea yea yea I work with the engineers and everyone too, try that for a challenge…

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 2 года назад +1

    That obstacle warning signal going flat-line at the end is prophetic.

  • @williamolsmit4659
    @williamolsmit4659 2 года назад +10

    Having owned 2 CJ7s 1 Comachee and 2 Cherokees of the last my 2001 which I still have with over 200,000 miles on it. When the 4.0 litre engine was discontinued so was reliability and ease of maintenance alas the 4.0 litre just wasn't EPA friendly

    • @WastedTalent-
      @WastedTalent- 2 года назад +3

      A 2000 XJ with over 200K is my daily driver.

    • @williamolsmit4659
      @williamolsmit4659 2 года назад

      @@WastedTalent- mine too, my only driver😁

    • @kevinmitchell766
      @kevinmitchell766 2 года назад

      Yup, the transmission dies around 100,000 miles, but that 4.0 is bulletproof.

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 2 года назад +2

      Just bought a '99 XJ a few weeks ago with 178,800 mi (4.0L). Interior nearly-flawless, previous owner swapped Grand Cherokee front seats in, body 8/10 (mostly clearcoat issues), purrs like a kitten and shifts like a dream. Guy I bought it from put $4,300 into it (shop repairs, receipts provided with sale, he did a lot of repairs himself as well) over the past year, mostly preventive repairs (pinion seal, leaf springs/hangers).
      Amazingly, it's never been off-road. (Well, not yet anyways...)

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 2 года назад +2

      Oh, and there's one thing that always makes me smile... Every time I turn the headlights on, I get the nostalgia of pulling a knob instead of twisting the turn signal stalk or pressing a rocker switch.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT 2 года назад +1

    Had a 91 Jeep Laredo from new, very minimal repairs of wear items. Straight six was great and 4wd got you anywhere. Put a ton of miles on it before selling and then saw it around for a few more years. Simple and tough.

    • @josephdbishop6576
      @josephdbishop6576 2 года назад

      Had a ‘77 Plymouth with the cast iron Slant Six that was nearly indestructible!

  • @jamesjl334
    @jamesjl334 2 года назад +46

    If Chrysler could figure out a way to make the entire engine plastic, they would do it

    • @gregblack4581
      @gregblack4581 2 года назад +1

      I think I saw that Briggs and Stratton is now using a plastic cam shaft ? Common sense would say bad idea. On old 70s cars anything plastic gets hard and brittle and needs replaced during our restoration. Can you imagine these new cars in 50 years ?

    • @rayrooney4656
      @rayrooney4656 2 года назад

      @@gregblack4581 I can't see ANY of these being able to run by then. The sensors and ECU alone will have crapped out by then, not to mention no gas being available.
      Also the whole wiring harness and connectors having turned to dust or goo. Did you know most wire insulation in cars are now soy-based so they will decay or rodents and bacteria can consume them?

    • @gregblack4581
      @gregblack4581 2 года назад +5

      @@rayrooney4656 but I’ve also heard that our electric infrastructure will not support even a half of the cars being electric ?We were in NYC last year and there are metal doors on the side walks that open for access to underground electric and plumbing. Scariest thing I’ve seen .The wires and pipes were a mess and looked 100 years old .

    • @ronwilken5219
      @ronwilken5219 2 года назад

      James, someone else would have to do it first. Chrysler only ever bought companies that had good ideas and then ran them into the ground, rust first, Jeep being one of them. I wouldn't own a Chrysler product if it even made bicycles. Their group product name should be "junk".

    • @hotpuppy1
      @hotpuppy1 2 года назад +2

      @@gregblack4581 OVER 100 years old. Some of that stuff goes back to before 1900

  • @williamdyckman9704
    @williamdyckman9704 2 года назад +1

    Ray, camera shots of the repair are excellent, gives confidence of trying any repairs for less experienced !

  • @dustinwarriner7432
    @dustinwarriner7432 2 года назад +43

    That engine cover was a dead giveaway for being a fake and a sideways engine.

    • @JayAlfredoG
      @JayAlfredoG 2 года назад +3

      Did I see that correctly that you remove a fake cover oil fill and then the real oil fill?
      Or do users pull the whole panel and the top twist handle is completely fake and just molded to the top?

    • @jamesb1221222
      @jamesb1221222 2 года назад +12

      Those covers should have stayed on lawn mowers

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 2 года назад +2

      @@jamesb1221222 Unless they are somehow improving airflow for cooling, they are just vanity.
      I don't know enough to say either way.

    • @ericharrison619
      @ericharrison619 2 года назад +1

      @@MonkeyJedi99 Many have insulation to help with injector noise...otherwise it's just plastic hiding more plastic.

  • @brianburke7440
    @brianburke7440 2 года назад +1

    Leave noid light in, restart, rescan---any difference in scan/codes before/after, and further diagnostic insights?

  • @thomas7770
    @thomas7770 2 года назад +9

    Hi Ray, thank you for the informative videos.

  • @jedslather
    @jedslather 2 года назад +12

    It's easy, if there ain't solid axels it ain't a real jeep 😁

  • @deanc.5984
    @deanc.5984 2 года назад

    It's good to hear feedback from the customers. They're always thankful.

  • @boozydaboozer
    @boozydaboozer 2 года назад +26

    Some years ago the WiFI password at the office started with 'Jeep' (boss had a Jeep at the time), every time someone asked for the WiFi password I vocalazed that part as 'capital Jay, small eep'. Until this day the office running gag involving anything Jeep related is 'small eep'.

    • @gncc600
      @gncc600 2 года назад +3

      What does this stupid rambling have to do with the video.

    • @boozydaboozer
      @boozydaboozer 2 года назад +5

      @@gncc600 You must be new to user comments on the internet.

    • @ELYESSS
      @ELYESSS 2 года назад +7

      @@boozydaboozer Nah he's just a proud owner of a 'capital Jay, small eep'

  • @tjhanlonjr
    @tjhanlonjr 2 года назад +1

    One of the most honest mechanics out of a handful on RUclips, cant forget eric o tho.

  • @richardgreen1383
    @richardgreen1383 2 года назад +3

    As the owner of two "real" Jeeps, an '03 Rubi and a '17 limited edition Wrangler Chief, I do recognize the 4 letter name on the other models, but generally refer to them as Jeep branded vehicles. I had one of those as well, my first vehicle with that name. A 1989 Cherokee with the fuel injected 4.0L. I bought it new at a dealer in Toledo, and loved it.
    And yes, those little slide locks on the connectors are delicate and break easily.

  • @2011joser
    @2011joser 2 года назад

    My 2005 Acura Tsx: 308k miles on original injectors. 93 Integra: 320k miles on original injectors. 93 Legend 240k miles on original injectors. 2013 Accord v6 104k miles and counting.

  • @johncooper4637
    @johncooper4637 2 года назад +5

    I have a "real" Jeep, just not as tricked out as the one on the video (I like my air conditioning). Recently had to use four wheel drive for the first time to climb eroded volcanic hills in west Texas. four wheel high was good enough as I was able to use speed to get over the steeper part. Previously I used it on a obsidian butte in Oregon but the second time I went up it I found that I did not need it. BTW, if you have an RV, a four wheel drive Jeep makes a great tow vehicle - no driveshaft disconnect needed.

  • @mikeboring2172
    @mikeboring2172 2 года назад +2

    Ray testing the fuel injector connection: "Can you see it?" Me: nodding my head! I feel like I am right there with him. As always, great video, Ray!

  • @NoName-tz5ji
    @NoName-tz5ji 2 года назад +3

    It’s so easy to spot a real,it’s the one needing repair😂

  • @scottcampbell4678
    @scottcampbell4678 2 года назад +1

    I have a 2010 Ford Taurus. It was showing a number 3 injector fault. This was off and on. It happened mostly when it was cold out (below freezing). I was afraid I would end up having to replace injectors. But, on a whim, I decided to spray the wiring with WD-40. This solved the problem immediately and it has not reoccurred in several months. A squirt of WD-40 saved me a couple of hundred dollars.

    • @ronwilken5219
      @ronwilken5219 2 года назад +1

      Scott, I rented a small car in UK once. It was a Chrysler produced Simca something. Almost brand new, less than 10k on the clock. Second day out the little SOB wouldn't start. Fortunately the local dealer was across the street. Went to ask for help. Mechanic looked out the door at the foggy weather went to the parts department and handed me a small spray can of WD-40 and said spray down the ignition system and try again. Bingo. I think I had to do it once again on that holiday. I left the can in the glove box with a note taped to it basically telling whomever rented this vehicle after what to do. I've never had to do this to any other vehicle I've owned including pre Chrysler Fiat's of which I owned two. Not sure what Chrysler uses for insulation on their ignition systems but it sure doesn't like moisture.

  • @scottbishop7899
    @scottbishop7899 2 года назад +13

    It is not an engine cover!!!!
    It's an engine "beautification" panel!! .... lol

  • @ilbercgross4736
    @ilbercgross4736 2 года назад

    I believe all mechanics and techs should film what they do. Ray is saving his arse by doing so and making a little money on the side from RUclips. or at least I hope he is making some money from RUclips. keep up the great work and filming.

  • @JayAlfredoG
    @JayAlfredoG 2 года назад +3

    Do the engine lights go off on a Fiat? Or do they just stay on as having an off mode would be pointlesss?

    • @peted5217
      @peted5217 2 года назад

      Ya, your rite, having them go out is redundant.

  • @CameronDC-Grimes
    @CameronDC-Grimes 2 года назад

    Experience from being a Jeep owner for many years tells me "you can tell a Jeep is authentic" when it has manufacturer defects making the Jeep defective or run poorly or causing several inconveniences!
    Because Jeep is made by Chrysler Fiat usually assembled in Mexico or Hicksville

  • @soggycracker5934
    @soggycracker5934 2 года назад +6

    I would almost let Ray work on my truck. But I fear that my clunker would be featured in a video...

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 2 года назад

    I'm happy with my 'fake' Jeep Renegade Latitude. The 4WD is very useful in the winter snow here in Ohio. I'm glad I have a 4 cylinder engine, 2 less spark plugs and 2 less injectors to buy. Very good video.

  • @shammi8133
    @shammi8133 2 года назад +3

    Come on man these are great minivans

  • @huzudra
    @huzudra 2 года назад

    A little late now but if that's an engine over or nearing 100,000 miles it may be wise to also replace the oil cooler assy under the lower intake manifold since they're a very common failure and you're half way there.

  • @Anonihmus2567
    @Anonihmus2567 2 года назад +11

    The real jeep was the friends we made along the way

  • @linluv84
    @linluv84 2 года назад +1

    Last guy didn't put manifold support bracket bolts back in? Shocking.

  • @wesgregg6451
    @wesgregg6451 2 года назад +8

    The question is - okay, MY question is - did the previous wrench actually replace a bad fuel injector? Or (somehow) fail to properly diagnose exactly which one was shot? Or, possibly... replace a failed injector - and then swap that one with the (previously fine) #2 injector, and tell the customer, "Yeah, we fixed your bad injector - but you'll probably have more trouble, because they tend to all fail around the same time."

    • @mbrowning7712
      @mbrowning7712 2 года назад +1

      They do tend to fail ALL the time. We have 4 of these engines in my work vans and they constantly fail. My boss does what is needed and continues to revisit the same issue on the next junk injector. Same for their coil packs. If one fails, a smart man will replace them all.

  • @adamcoffin6988
    @adamcoffin6988 2 года назад

    I'm glad you fix Jeeps , Job Security!

  • @chrisfreemesser
    @chrisfreemesser 2 года назад +17

    Replacement MOPAR fuel injectors for this Jeep are $82 at Rockauto, which means the customer would probably be paying $140 or so each at a shop, times 4 means the repair would have cost an additional $560 plus a little more labor, let's say $600 in total. For those questioning why the customer didn't replace the other 4, there's your answer

    • @michaelvangundy226
      @michaelvangundy226 2 года назад +4

      I tell people all of the time. Some people just don't have extra cash lying around to replace good components. Maybe they will sell it before any others go bad?

    • @Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure
      @Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure 2 года назад +1

      This is where a credit card saves the day. But then you pay more

    • @TheDon8771
      @TheDon8771 2 года назад +1

      I agree. Fix what’s broken. Besides sometimes new don’t mean good. So why shoot the parts cannon. Spark plugs , breaks and tires are the only parts I get all at once.

    • @applepoop10
      @applepoop10 2 года назад +1

      @@originalmicdrop but yet you voted for him?

    • @Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure
      @Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure 2 года назад +2

      @@applepoop10 how do you make such an assumption lol?

  • @michaeldeline1256
    @michaeldeline1256 2 года назад

    RAY, GREAT VIDEOS MY FRIEND.... YOUR PERSONALITY IS A PLUS. HARD WORKING YOUNG MAN . TRYING TO TTACK DOWN THE ANGRY PLIERS YOU SHOW ON ACCASION.. I KNOW YOU SAID AMAZON ? BEST WISHES MY FRIEND. YOU MAKE ME SMILE, SORRY ABOUT CAPS. LOL

  • @Onewheelordeal
    @Onewheelordeal 2 года назад +3

    Not sure if it's just cheaping out on hood struts but those mini jeeps for high school girls have the heaviest hoods in the game right now

  • @scot_irsh
    @scot_irsh 2 года назад

    Here's my take. When the #4 was replaced the repair person just moved it to #2. Hoping the owner would return to get it changed. Then it would be moved to a different cylinder. Good you are changing them all.

    • @markdoldon8852
      @markdoldon8852 2 года назад

      Owner never said the previous repair didn't solve the problem, which is what a swap would have done. This sounds like a new problem.

  • @maxeaves
    @maxeaves 2 года назад +40

    Ray. What's the form when you find broken pieces under the hood? I imagine that this is a difficult one as customers may think you broke them, but in some respects your videos show that the parts were already broken when you worked on them. Do you make the Customer Service people aware of these kinds of things?

    • @noturkill9879
      @noturkill9879 2 года назад +12

      @Mert M mate lying to the customer would be the worst thing to do. Tell em straight up something is broken before you even start the job. If they are smart they will realize it needs to be fixed. If they aren't and think you broke it then you lost a customer that didn't deserve your work anyways. Never lie the person your working on the vehicle of. They will eventually find out and come back even more mad.

    • @clintonhanson
      @clintonhanson 2 года назад +9

      @Mert M someone that omits information about what they found are in fact lying to their customer and if your customer finds out would probably drop you as there preferred service individual, I know I would! You inform the customer of what you found period!

    • @stephenwilliams6103
      @stephenwilliams6103 2 года назад +5

      🤣🤣, whenever the mechanic I use informs me that something isn't right or is broken, I say to him🤔," It wasn't like that before you had it", 😅🤣🤣. He just laughs at me🤣. It's good to have a bit of banter before he drops the repair bill on me🤔😬🤣🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @clintonhanson
      @clintonhanson 2 года назад

      @@stephenwilliams6103 of course man that’s all just in good fun and to see them shit all over themselves thinking you actually believe that! Lol

    • @randomschmo5778
      @randomschmo5778 2 года назад +2

      @@noturkill9879 - Keeping quiet is very different than lying.

  • @jamincp123
    @jamincp123 2 года назад

    They are now all made by FIAT(as in "Fix It Again Tony"). The most extreme, over-the-top, off-road models don't carry the same warranty on basic engine failure type problems.

  • @WickedProxy
    @WickedProxy 2 года назад +3

    So I have to wonder. What is the life expectancy of a starter and battery on a vehicle equipped with the auto stop/start feature, vs one without that?

    • @peted5217
      @peted5217 2 года назад +1

      Not to mention, most R annoying

    • @s13gouf60
      @s13gouf60 2 года назад

      Batteries have only so many cycles of use. The manufacturer attempts to compensate by using heavier batteries and in many cases a second battery. Instead you now have the most expensive battery or two you have to replace at a more frequent interval.
      As far as the starter goes, it's a wear part. Depends on the quality of the part. But one can surmise starting half a dozen times a day is far better than fifty for longevity.

  • @petergarofolo9385
    @petergarofolo9385 2 года назад +2

    Saw the replacement rear end for your next video. Can't wait. 👍

  • @dnsmcbr104
    @dnsmcbr104 2 года назад +12

    I remain BEFUDDLED why customers elect not to do other maintenance relating to parts underneath a labor-heavy removal job

    • @Onewheelordeal
      @Onewheelordeal 2 года назад +3

      Money, ignorance

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 года назад +4

      Eh, fuel injectors "should" last the life of the vehicle. Strange they are failing like that, BUT if it were my personal vehicle I would only do the broken one. You can have that plenum off in about 10 minutes. Good for Ray to suggest. "IF" another one goes out, they have that suggestion backing them up with the customer only to blame themselves.

    • @emrfixit
      @emrfixit 2 года назад

      @@thefireman285 Just request the old parts back.

    • @snowlothar45
      @snowlothar45 2 года назад +4

      The other injectors were not available. Judge not lest you be judged.

    • @francissobotka8725
      @francissobotka8725 2 года назад +3

      Or parts are not available.

  • @indie.horror72
    @indie.horror72 2 года назад

    i love the 114 oil filters only thing i hate is the drain plugs

  • @jonknutson7670
    @jonknutson7670 2 года назад

    That's pretty much the same motor that's in my Grand Caravan, had to replace injectors 1 and 2 a couple years ago. Haven't had any problems with the others yet.

  • @pmscalisi
    @pmscalisi 2 года назад +9

    The one with the lowest mileage and the most problems is the real Jeep

  • @jmquickfix
    @jmquickfix 2 года назад +1

    Lol. I knew they wouldn't go for it. Just did an intake for an explorer. And was forced to change 4 cause they were cracked and ready to explode. $250 for 4. He 💩 a brick when i told him. He understood. But i had too. Anyways. I would replace the one. This intake takes 15 min tops to take off. If anything pay full price now on labor and if it happens again do it at a discounted rate. You cant feel guilty for everything. Make your recommendation and move forward. Your heart can be too big in this tough industry. Btw were mobile mechanics here in Atlanta. I learned already we can do only the best we can with what we got. What separates you from the rest of techs is you can make the situation into the best

  • @jamessowards3822
    @jamessowards3822 2 года назад +5

    To have 2 of 6 injectors fail at such low mileage is odd. I have had vehicles with up to 300,000 miles on original injectors.

    • @pprb123
      @pprb123 2 года назад +1

      Maybe they regular a sketchy gas station and get dirty fuel?

    • @sorrowcat2724
      @sorrowcat2724 2 года назад

      It’s a Jeep

  • @coreyfairbanks7374
    @coreyfairbanks7374 2 года назад

    Just watched Odins Men...... don't know how that guy stays sane..... had to come here to get my sanity back.....plus a couple beers... do not stop what you do......as to the formal.... God help us all.........DO DEE DOO DEE DOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Is more sane than there crap. I saw your viD of the AR...... GET MORE AMMO! I realize I made some grammer mistakes, but like Ray, I will not hide or edit my mistakes .

  • @tomgeorge3726
    @tomgeorge3726 2 года назад +3

    Hi Ray, would it have been a good idea while you had the manifold off, to measure the resistance of all the injector coils and compare against the new item?
    This may have given you some insight into the condition/longevity of the units, particularly as the client only wanted the failed unit to be replaced.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 2 года назад +1

      Client wanted to replace all the injectors but the required quantity was not available to purchase.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq 2 года назад

      If you have a good scan tool or a scope, you can check for issues without having to take any direct measurements. Also, if the other injectors are clearly working, like in this case, its going to measure fine.
      One thing no one ever seems to mention, and its important, are gdi systems. Most new cars have them, and unless you really know what you're doing, don't touch them. They're very unforgiving to work on, and even if you think you have everything just right, they can still have a massive fuel leak, and set your car on fire.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 2 года назад +2

      @RV Shadow Incorrect, the customer is Erik Salas and holds the most upvoted comment to this video in which he states the following: "I actually wanted to replace all the injectors, but was told the necessary quantity weren't going to be available for some time." among other things. I can certainly understand how Ray was unaware of that while making the video.

    • @tomgeorge3726
      @tomgeorge3726 2 года назад +1

      @@AT-wl9yq With the manifold off and DMM in hand, no extra equipment to do the measurement. From what I have seen on these channels an injector within spec may be on the high end of the spec can still operate, but it shows a drift towards being out of spec.
      Electronics Engineer, when working on gear worth 1000'S if you find a commonly used component failure, check other components of same type.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 2 года назад

      @RV Shadow Oh it's all good! I was just surprised you made it down here to my lil ol' comment and missed Erik's is all!

  • @whoknows8225
    @whoknows8225 2 года назад

    Musquitos are the worst, i live in the Netherlands and we have them too in the warmer months from may to half november... they suck

  • @hetspook666
    @hetspook666 2 года назад +6

    Wasn't cleaning the other injectors an option?

    • @emrfixit
      @emrfixit 2 года назад

      It was open.... not clogged-

  • @deanmoberg445
    @deanmoberg445 2 года назад +2

    Fun fact Ray. There are about 80 different species of mosquitoes in Florida. In my opinion the species occur after a dry period are the worst. They are rather large with white stripes on their legs.

    • @wolfgangweber9924
      @wolfgangweber9924 2 года назад +2

      and the ones that bite are "she" not "he". She needs the protein of the blood in order to produce eggs.

    • @smittywerbenyeagermenjenso3720
      @smittywerbenyeagermenjenso3720 2 года назад

      In tennessee, we have tiny ones with white stripes on their legs. Those things suck and they're the only ones that hurt when they bite.
      That I know of at least.

  • @gcraig0001
    @gcraig0001 2 года назад +7

    Would love to know why two of six injectors failed (so far). Defective manufacturing perhaps? Otherwise, injectors should last MUCH longer than these have.

    • @Jiusonium
      @Jiusonium 2 года назад +4

      It's a cheap (jeep) built by fiat. I'm surprised it had any working injectors

  • @TheDiamonddust1
    @TheDiamonddust1 2 года назад

    I know a lot of places just replace the injectors instead of cleaning them but if your able to do this yourself at home it's not hard to clean the injectors and save some cash if your able to do so.

  • @hoseman1
    @hoseman1 2 года назад +23

    I always wanted a Jeep until I got one, it spent more time broken down than it did on the road, I will never own another one.

    • @Onewheelordeal
      @Onewheelordeal 2 года назад +7

      Hey at least pat yourself on the back you didn't get sucked into jeep life and deluding yourself that their expensive inefficient vehicles are great

    • @Reptitude
      @Reptitude 2 года назад +2

      what kind of jeep was it?

    • @anthonydtobias
      @anthonydtobias 2 года назад +3

      Bad luck my friend! I would have hated the brand myself if that happened to me as well! I've owned 2 wranglers and had great luck with them. I miss my 4L straight 6 but not so much the 4 cyl one 🤣. Best of luck with your future cars!

    • @gregdiiamond3899
      @gregdiiamond3899 2 года назад +4

      Peugeot fiat and Chrysler. A recipe for disaster.

    • @scipio7
      @scipio7 2 года назад +3

      I had a 92 Cherokee with the 4.0. Never took it off road really, but towed some hilariously inadvisable weights. Transfer case stopped working at 180,000, engine ran to 240,000. Minimal rust when it left me 16 years after manufacture. That truck didn't owe anyone anything.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 года назад +1

    Good fuel injector replace video I would of done all of them but I understand why they didn't @Rainman Ray's Repairs

  • @paulheitkemper1559
    @paulheitkemper1559 2 года назад +18

    Consider putting permethrin on your clothes to keep the skeeters away.
    And it's not a he. Just as in real life, the bloodsuckers are female. ( Expecting reply REEEEEEEE! from other viewers on that one)

    • @alanking7331
      @alanking7331 2 года назад

      So you want him to start wearing insecticide?

    • @marikann9073
      @marikann9073 2 года назад +7

      The REEE crowd is not watching Rays videos.

    • @victorfox9623
      @victorfox9623 2 года назад +2

      The Salt Must Flow

    • @paulheitkemper1559
      @paulheitkemper1559 2 года назад

      @@alanking7331 It's not insecticide. You put it in your clothes and let it dry before you put them on. It keeps them away. Like DEET, except that it works.

    • @wildside1951
      @wildside1951 2 года назад

      @@marikann9073 Yeah true that

  • @Anunnaki-z7i
    @Anunnaki-z7i 2 года назад +2

    Great video as always. The Auto start "feature" is annoying as heck and the manufactures should make it easy to permanently disable that. First time I encountered that, I was driving out of Fort Lauderdale airport on a rental car, I thought there was something wrong with the vehicle. 😁😁

    • @chrishebert5672
      @chrishebert5672 2 года назад +1

      I encountered the same issue with a rental. It was annoying enough that I went to the internet to figure out how to disable it.

    • @Anunnaki-z7i
      @Anunnaki-z7i 2 года назад +1

      @@chrishebert5672 I did the same thing.

  • @jamesb1221222
    @jamesb1221222 2 года назад +6

    I'll never understand the minivan craze over the last 10 years. Everyone's driving the same crap with different logos on them.

  • @fredwalker839
    @fredwalker839 2 года назад

    Like “ Johnny Cash “ one piece at a time ! Good vid Ray

  • @b.burnett5878
    @b.burnett5878 2 года назад +3

    Neither one is a "Jeep" but are vehicles made by the makers of real Jeeps. Real Jeeps have 2 doors and have shorter wheelbases.

    • @bedlamite42
      @bedlamite42 2 года назад

      You didn't watch 'til the end, did you?

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 2 года назад +15

    Q: How do you spot a shit jeep
    A: They're all shit

  • @bennguyen548
    @bennguyen548 2 года назад

    I'm lovin the thumbless nitrile gloves Ray

  • @archiesilkworth6607
    @archiesilkworth6607 2 года назад +28

    Hey Ray, about that mosquito biting your ankle. You need to stop calling it he as only the females bite. Let's face it, us guys get slammed enough so we can at least quit blaming the male mosquitoes for what the females are doing.

    • @jamesstewart601
      @jamesstewart601 2 года назад +3

      Did you just assume that mosquito’s gender? It’s 2022, we can’t do that anymore

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 2 года назад

      Florida has no-see-ums too, and they are really miserable.

    • @archiesilkworth6607
      @archiesilkworth6607 2 года назад

      @@spaceflight1019 we have those miserable little a**h**es here in Michigan too, we just trade them for frostbite part of the year.

  • @jeromebland8287
    @jeromebland8287 2 года назад

    I watch this channel everyday love the content

  • @mrq1
    @mrq1 2 года назад +7

    Most jeep purchases are for people who like to accessorize. Therefore a true jeep will have these
    -oversize tires? Check
    -lightbar? Check
    -gigantic unstable lift? Check
    -mashes pedal to the floor during take off? Check.
    -pavement queen? Check
    - never-been-used winch off or road jack? Check.
    -gigantic superiority complex while flogging a minivan engine because they didn't re-gear. CHECK!

    • @MWestern-m4g
      @MWestern-m4g 2 года назад +4

      Red unused tow hooks and ANGRY GRILL!!

    • @cowthedestroyer
      @cowthedestroyer 2 года назад +2

      -Spare tire cover with some stupid jeep pun? Check

    • @bonesrhodes3762
      @bonesrhodes3762 2 года назад

      RUBICONJOB decal. CHECK

  • @willsrestorations
    @willsrestorations 2 года назад

    I have never seen or heard of putting in a fuel injector without putting a tad of season cream on both ends where the o-rings seats on the injector.

  • @markshutt6000
    @markshutt6000 2 года назад +4

    REAL jeeps have three pedals and two doors ;)

  • @notime4264
    @notime4264 2 года назад

    Almost too soon to see another Pentstar 3.6 after spending the weekend replacing the oil filter housing on my minivan’s.
    At least it was interesting seeing some differences with that tube and my minivan also had (4) 10mm nuts and a 13mm for a bracket to remove that air intake.

  • @ManleyMachines
    @ManleyMachines 2 года назад +6

    Nothing for nothing, do you need a better service writer? I see many times you recommend reasonable replacements that should be easy sell, yet the customer declines. That means either your labor rates are too high, parts markup is too high or your service writer needs more salesman skills.

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin 2 года назад +2

      Probably a bit of all three.

    • @markdoldon8852
      @markdoldon8852 2 года назад

      Most of the cars where they decline are well into old age. A 20 yr old beater declining a $1000 repair tells me it's all the owner can afford. This one is newer, but he had a reason to decline.

    • @ManleyMachines
      @ManleyMachines 2 года назад

      @@markdoldon8852 I disagree. A true salesman in this current car market could have made those marks. No one can afford new cars, so $1000 to extend your current vehicle isn't unreasonable.

  • @richceglinski7543
    @richceglinski7543 2 года назад

    When It had a p0302 before you read the injector circuit code I thought it was one of those 3.6 pentastars that have the valve seats get loose and cocked crooked on #2

  • @splitsecondmagician
    @splitsecondmagician 2 года назад +4

    All of that plastic and over complication of the induction system alone is a disappointing sight.

    • @77.88.
      @77.88. 2 года назад

      Manufactures use the junk plastic method as the profit is high and the costs little? Buy Toyota and be done with problems or it use to be? My 2002 2.7 liter engine runs like a clock, uses ZERO oil and the automatic transmission runs and shifts like baby oil?

  • @dalecampbell8181
    @dalecampbell8181 2 года назад

    Love your channel. I have same engine in my 2014 Grand Cherokee. I hate to think of working on it, retired industrial mechanic, and luckily have had no issues. Those connectors are a real pain. Push, pull, slide and whatever some freaking engineer could think up.

  • @guycocoa211
    @guycocoa211 2 года назад +3

    It would be interesting to know the difference in the cost between replacing one injector and five.

    • @davidgriffin14
      @davidgriffin14 2 года назад +2

      It would be 5 times the cost according to my math.

    • @aardvarklet
      @aardvarklet 2 года назад +1

      @@davidgriffin14 5x the cost in parts for just the injectors but labour needs to be calculated so probably not 5x

    • @derrynj
      @derrynj 2 года назад +3

      @@davidgriffin14 your math implies that the intake needs to be removed and reassembled 5 times. Not sure, but I think Ray is a little more efficient than that.

    • @bravobullz7475
      @bravobullz7475 2 года назад +2

      @@davidgriffin14 🤣

    • @paulmonk7820
      @paulmonk7820 2 года назад

      @@davidgriffin14 plus labor!

  • @bobv8219
    @bobv8219 2 года назад

    Happy mechanic “on the clock/job I find your style intriguing. Good work environment I’m sure. Thank you for sharing your videos. Subbed

  • @erichayton8188
    @erichayton8188 2 года назад +4

    There hasn't been a "Jeep" made since 1999 when they cancelled the Cherokee Sport. Wranglers stopped when they created the "TJ" in 1995. All just junky, foreign made, Chryslers trying to capitalize on a name notorious for rugged reliability!

    • @WastedTalent-
      @WastedTalent- 2 года назад

      I have a 2000 Cherokee Sport.

    • @erichayton8188
      @erichayton8188 2 года назад

      @@WastedTalent- You are correct, the last model year of the XJ was 2001 upon actually looking it up, my mistake

    • @litz13
      @litz13 2 года назад +1

      You're not that far off though - the 2000/2001 Cherokees used coil pack ignition, which is nowhere near as reliable as the distributor on the 99-older years.

  • @MegaBluebone
    @MegaBluebone 2 года назад +2

    that start/stop system is so incredibly irritating. i disconnected it in my Cherokee and now life is so much better.

  • @Aleks_Mechanics
    @Aleks_Mechanics 2 года назад +4

    notification squad!🔥🔥🔥

    • @sizzurp8820
      @sizzurp8820 2 года назад +1

      We out here 🔥

    • @Aleks_Mechanics
      @Aleks_Mechanics 2 года назад +1

      @@sizzurp8820 Awsome dude, keep it up!😎👍🏻