Brighter Than A Thousand Suns is an incredible album, ruined on its release by studio execs fiddling with the sound to make more mainstream. Jaz is pretty lost to ego in this whole interview and the appeal of the band at this time just tarnished. I can see how it quickly went wrong after this. But now that we have the restored version of BTATS we can really listen to one of the band’s most mesmerising records
I love Brighter Than A Thousand Suns, I think some of the mainstream tendencies were also quite intentional with Killing Joke themselves. The post-reunion interview on their singles with Big Paul, Jaz and Geordie, I think it was on metal hammer's channel, does a bit to explain (sometimes by omission) what they are happy with from Night Time and Brighter period. I get the impression Youth really doesn't like playing much of it, but musically the three of them are far from condemning this record. In my mind the tension was rooted in the fact that BP and Jaz started things but Jaz and Geordie had developed their own vision to the exclusion of the others. Outside the Gate feels unfinished and a lot like the beginning of Jaz's composing career mixed in with Geordie experimenting a bit on the guitar; on the title track the concept is most clear to me, there's no real strong driving rhythmic movement and the two of them play together in harmony, trade 8 bar sections etc. I enjoy it for what it is. But things were much improved when Raven came back and they did Extremities; I'm usually not big into drummers but Big Paul is missed during those years. Martin Atkins did give them a gateway into that Chicago industrial scene of the late 80s and early 90s. I know "everyone" considers that direction universally better than Night Time and Brighter, but personally I'd like seeing some of the ethereal creep back in here and there.
John Delaney, this is a tale that the band has related to give an explanation to the commercial fiasco of the 1986 LP after the huge success of Night Time. the reissue cd of brighter with a different mix offers in fact almost exactly the same sound, it is new wave music with dark lyrics. they were not the cure, they weren't meant to be huge. let's not swallow the tale written in recent hagiographies / biographies /books about Killing joke, this is ludicrous
@@gr3y_eminence Brighter Than a Tousand Suns was the end of an era for Killing Joke. Outside the Gate was more of a transitional album to the new industrial metal band we know now as Killing Joke, who started with the Extremities album.
BTATS its the best record from Killing Joke. Period. The guitar from Geordie almost created a atmosphere where to breath. It seems like a synth. Amazing record.
I like that part where Jaz talks about the ancient Hindu scriptures about the atom bombs the people of that era built and set off against each other. I had almost forgotten about that, but the Thar Desert and the Indus Valley, as well as the Sinai Peninsula, with whom the Indus inhabitants apparently fought, both bear a number of features that may be craters of nuclear explosions from that time. There are reputedly even traces of radioactivity in them and elements left over from being transmuted or produced by those weapons or devices.
Wrong wrong wrong! Its little known..... but it was the Atlantians that conquered the Indus valley, and sanitized the Sinai with Moonbeam Technology. Unfortunately Overuse of Lunar tech made the Atlanteans sterile, and they went extinct.
Space wars between the benevolent Aldebrans and the negative Draconians- the draconian victors wrote the history books to make it look like the Light had won.
Big Paul holding the golden Gibson, haha a lot of odd and special moments here. Thanks Mr. Bickle for all the great uploads in your Museum of The Joke and of course for saving Jodie Foster, which personally I think wasn't worth it.
Love Big Pauls " god i am fucked off " face ! yes the album is commercial but some good tracks. so what if they sold their soul for a while for a few bucks, Jaz was being sued by practically everyone so gotta do what you gotta do.
We'll remember distant times and places We'll remember summer sun that yields Shed our bodies heart and soul for love's sake Civilizations wax and wane. Inocence will fade away like Autumn Likewise the dream of youth, the task And we shall be at peace upon our parting With the thoughts of loved ones in our hearts
Na Brighter is one of their best albums. Some KJ fans just can’t accept that they’re not a one trick pony like 99% of other bands. Sometimes things go mainstream because they’re that good.
Dude again, your channel, unbelievable.. were you ever a college DJ? For me in 1986 college radio stations wfdu and WFMU turned me onto this stuff.. I'm sure there was some 120 min. Folk..wlir too
kev catnip Tensions were rife at this point. Jaz was all about ego which rubbed everyone the wrong way, and the band realized they had become mainstream. Not long after Raven and Big Paul did a runner...
Depressed to no end that Geordie and Raven are gone. Brilliant songs from this era of KJ! Thank you for sharing this
"Our faces raised in adorations", such a powerful line, so simple but descriptive of an awe inspiring moment.
Killing Joke at their height! Saw them in 86 One of the best concerts.
I wonder why Suns didn't go over like Night Time? They were on a roll. Business matters most likely.
Brighter Than A Thousand Suns is an incredible album, ruined on its release by studio execs fiddling with the sound to make more mainstream. Jaz is pretty lost to ego in this whole interview and the appeal of the band at this time just tarnished. I can see how it quickly went wrong after this. But now that we have the restored version of BTATS we can really
listen to one of the band’s most mesmerising records
I love Brighter Than A Thousand Suns, I think some of the mainstream tendencies were also quite intentional with Killing Joke themselves. The post-reunion interview on their singles with Big Paul, Jaz and Geordie, I think it was on metal hammer's channel, does a bit to explain (sometimes by omission) what they are happy with from Night Time and Brighter period. I get the impression Youth really doesn't like playing much of it, but musically the three of them are far from condemning this record.
In my mind the tension was rooted in the fact that BP and Jaz started things but Jaz and Geordie had developed their own vision to the exclusion of the others. Outside the Gate feels unfinished and a lot like the beginning of Jaz's composing career mixed in with Geordie experimenting a bit on the guitar; on the title track the concept is most clear to me, there's no real strong driving rhythmic movement and the two of them play together in harmony, trade 8 bar sections etc. I enjoy it for what it is.
But things were much improved when Raven came back and they did Extremities; I'm usually not big into drummers but Big Paul is missed during those years. Martin Atkins did give them a gateway into that Chicago industrial scene of the late 80s and early 90s. I know "everyone" considers that direction universally better than Night Time and Brighter, but personally I'd like seeing some of the ethereal creep back in here and there.
John Delaney, this is a tale that the band has related to give an explanation to the commercial fiasco of the 1986 LP after the huge success of Night Time. the reissue cd of brighter with a different mix offers in fact almost exactly the same sound, it is new wave music with dark lyrics. they were not the cure, they weren't meant to be huge. let's not swallow the tale written in recent hagiographies / biographies /books about Killing joke, this is ludicrous
@@gr3y_eminence Brighter Than a Tousand Suns was the end of an era for Killing Joke. Outside the Gate was more of a transitional album to the new industrial metal band we know now as Killing Joke, who started with the Extremities album.
I wonder why the public didn't warn to it, if anything it's more mainstream.
All my favorite songs there 😊
Jaz looks dead inside at the beginning
And Sanity and Adorations are both such beautiful songs
Can't believe the years have gone by so fast since hearing these guys. Still have the cassett Brighter than a Thousand Suns.
BTATS its the best record from Killing Joke. Period. The guitar from Geordie almost created a atmosphere where to breath. It seems like a synth. Amazing record.
I like both mixes
RIP RAVEN
I like that part where Jaz talks about the ancient Hindu scriptures about the atom bombs the people of that era built and set off against each other. I had almost forgotten about that, but the Thar Desert and the Indus Valley, as well as the Sinai Peninsula, with whom the Indus inhabitants apparently fought, both bear a number of features that may be craters of nuclear explosions from that time. There are reputedly even traces of radioactivity in them and elements left over from being transmuted or produced by those weapons or devices.
Wrong wrong wrong!
Its little known..... but it was the Atlantians that conquered the Indus valley, and sanitized the Sinai with Moonbeam Technology.
Unfortunately Overuse of Lunar tech made the Atlanteans sterile, and they went extinct.
Space wars between the benevolent Aldebrans and the negative Draconians- the draconian victors wrote the history books to make it look like the Light had won.
I always thought Jaz would have made a great vampire
Big Paul holding the golden Gibson, haha a lot of odd and special moments here. Thanks Mr. Bickle for all the great uploads in your Museum of The Joke and of course for saving Jodie Foster, which personally I think wasn't worth it.
Great Interview. Those in the know don't doubt their Sincerity.Cheers.
Love Big Pauls " god i am fucked off " face ! yes the album is commercial but some good tracks. so what if they sold their soul for a while for a few bucks, Jaz was being sued by practically everyone so gotta do what you gotta do.
We'll remember distant times and places
We'll remember summer sun that yields
Shed our bodies heart and soul for love's sake
Civilizations wax and wane.
Inocence will fade away like Autumn
Likewise the dream of youth, the task
And we shall be at peace upon our parting
With the thoughts of loved ones in our hearts
Amazing how back in the 80's, wireless guitars and invisible mics existed. Where's this technology now?
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@@michaela.1766 😉😁
I love how they hang out and answer questions while sharing a bottle of wine
Ladies and Gentlemen, that's Killing Joke ;)
This album will never be topped 🖤
We've been going 7 years, let's make that at least 47👍. Thanks again Travis.
Thanks for uploading. Not seen this one before. Oh how great those TV playbacks can be!
PAUL RAVEN WAS SO DAMNED COOL
Love to learn about my favourite band . 😊Hello to Jaz Coleman and Killing Joke 😊
Amazing❤
It was at this point they realized they’d become a mainstream band; Paul Raven and drummer up and left not soon after.
Na Brighter is one of their best albums. Some KJ fans just can’t accept that they’re not a one trick pony like 99% of other bands. Sometimes things go mainstream because they’re that good.
Fantastic Music...and Philosophy. 🕉🎶🍄🔥✊.
Dude again, your channel, unbelievable.. were you ever a college DJ? For me in 1986 college radio stations wfdu and WFMU turned me onto this stuff.. I'm sure there was some 120 min. Folk..wlir too
Great to see , thank's TravisBickle.
Jaz looks like Michael Knight gone mad. Joking :)
This is fierce!!!
merci beacoup!!!
excellent
That Fern just wants out and away from the Frog.
dat into
Thanks.
Did Jaz want Big paul saying his bit in the interviews >? Always seems he doesnt likr it
kev catnip Tensions were rife at this point. Jaz was all about ego which rubbed everyone the wrong way, and the band realized they had become mainstream. Not long after Raven and Big Paul did a runner...
1986.
+herrkaliyuga
Thank You Been Though My Paperwork And Found The Original Date.
David G on bass?
What ? it's Raven.
paul raven ,,r i p