Danger had a point. Being a master tattooer has nothing to do with “knowing how to deal with problem clients”. Every real life master tattooer will REFUSE any client they want to, especially if they’re giving them a hard time.
Yeah, that goes for any artistic job, be it a painting, a logo, web design, whatever. If the artist and the client can’t meet in the middle, then the artist has the right to move on and not work with that person, cause what’s the point? The result is going to upset the client no matter what, so it’d be a waste of time.
@@qs4177 I think it's safe to say you've never worked retail in your life if that's your mindset. Sometimes "knowing how to deal with customers" is telling them they need to leave because it's not okay to treat people like garbage. Despite what you might think the customer is NOT always right, and you don't deserve my respect if you're going to treat me like that. NO ONE should just have to get used to people treating them like shit.
I actually agree with James Danger. I think he tried to work it out with her but she kept trying to carry on a fight. I really believe there are people that go into situations just to disrupt them. She is one of those people.
Exactly. When he said he’s trying to calm down, she should have backed off instead of continuing to prob him. Some peoples’ responses to stress and anger is that they shake, he’s not nervous, just angry.
danger literally did everything right? he kept himself calm, he kept his voice level, he tried to self-regulate to calm himself down while she continued to berate him. i cant find a flaw in his response, i really cant. she forced him to quit on her. she literally forced it. so mad about this
Yeah. She was freaking out about him shaking and he literally said he was trying to calm down so he could tattoo her so she should have just walked away so both of them could chill for a bit.
@@Carmen-qg8ym her behavior caused him to start shaking and she continued when he tried to calm himself down. you'll start to be able to pick things up like this when you get out of middle school.
@@Carmen-qg8ym shouldn't be surprising with how she was. She had won't drop something. She is getting a tattoo for free on a time limit. She what's what she want and with that type for attitude she shouldn't has agreed to this. They have goals they have to reach to keep going. If she wanted a tattoo that she could nippick and everything pay for it. I don't know I just didn't like her that much.
I respect Danger for not tattooing himself. Even though the judges tried to say he had the perfect opportunity and client (himself), he didn't want that tattoo and that's a decision that cost him the competition, but ultimately saved him from having regrets about getting a tattoo he ultimately didn't even want.
Yeah, but at the same time I was thinking "if he doesn't want that Fenix tattooed, why should her?" Im not saying she was right, she was clearly being intentionally difficult from the start. But he did say that he didn't want the design tattooed on him, making me think that it was not about the occasion, but the design.
@@carlareis2360 She signed up for a show where they get a prompt to tattoo and she gets that for free. That is why "she should" even though he doesn't.
@@carlareis2360Not wanting a design on you doesn't means anything. First it wasn't really what the prompt was about, and he was just trying to be flexible with her while still getting the prompt done, so there was no time to make another design and the current didn't fit his style.
It annoyed me that no one defended James. No artist would accept a client like her in their shop. Smh what a shame they did him like that. Why not offer another canvas like the first woman or Jason. Makes me not want to watch the show.
Right - at this point, with however many volunteers they get for free tattoos, you'd think they would have backups ready for each challenge. Heck at that point, you could probably just have a waiver for the show to sign and just grab someone off the street.
I believe james was the first time they had a client walk out. They weren't ready for that, though they should've been. Im with you that they should've defended him. That was total bs
I watched the episode before. It seems that Dave and Jime were the only ones defending James. Jason later made a (now deleted) video defending him as well.
@@caiawren6100 exactly! Literally go outside and ask who wants a free tattoo and opportunity to be on tv?! And they should have backups because people chicken out at the last minute or pass out or even get an emergency call and have to leave. 🤦🏻♀️ I wasn’t happy lol
@@tianag8513 true, that could be the case. But they should have backups for certain situations. But no one backing him up? NOT EVEN THE CAMERA MAN?! Lol nope, that I can’t excuse. I felt so bad for him and his anger was valid but they tried to use reverse psychology on him. I would of been the artist to speak up like “nope, I heard her and she was a bitch & he was acting better than I would have because I would of asked her to leave and I’ll tattoo myself.” But because they’re more concerned with winning, they forgot how to support their fellow artist.
"people dont wanna be tattood by an asshole" hes right. noted to never get a tattoo crom that red bearded asshat. holier than thou self-righteous dickhead. james was a great reat man
Natalie was a nightmare from start to finish. It seemed ridiculous they wanted him to charm her, when in reality, those artists have the opportunity to bounce difficult clients
yeah she waLked in being a Karen that jst wants a Peace & LoVe infinity sign tattoo….. knowing that they need to giVe them something with high detail. i get why he keePs getting frUstrated im the same way he’s trying to teLL her that he needs to take a breath and she needs to jst giVe him a min. He is showing signs of an anxiety attack brewing. U can’t be Like that.
I completely disagree. She knew what she wanted and asked for it. He did not listen and was trembling before tattooing her. Would you really get a tattoo from someone that is trembling? She made the right call.
James is the only one who has come close to calling out this show for what it is. Unreal flash challenges that have nothing to do with tattoo, judged by three peoples opinions of likes /dislikes and nit picking....
Honestly, I think Danger was totally right to tell that person that he wasn't the right tattoo artist for her. Artists have just as much a right to feel safe as their clients do. She repeatedly disrespected his boundaries, yelling and berating him when he asked her to walk away so that he could calm down. Being an artist definitely means being able to work with and compromise with your canvases, but it doesn't mean having to take abuse.
Yeah she was out the gate acting crazy and negative and combative. She immediately said I hate every single one of your designs and nothing like that is going on my body. It was so unnecessarily aggressive I think she did it on purpose to get more camera time on the show. I feel bad for him.
Anthony is such a good team leader, stepping up and letting Mike tattoo him when his canvas walked out, which makes a great person. Not everyone would let someone tattoo on them last minute especially someone that needs to be there for the rest of their team and can't.
I’m so glad Natalie’s behaviour was on camera because it’s a reminder that the customer isn’t always right. She just wanted to cause a scene and was really pushing his buttons so he would snap. He’s a tattoo artist not her cheating ex.
She’s was giving ME anxiety, like all she was there for was to cause problems HE was willing to compromise HE changed the design multiple times and while everyone else had started tattooing he was still trying to make something she was happy with He’s better than me I would’ve told her to leave I would HAVE yelled 😅
Ngl I wasn’t him and she was almost giving me a panic attack because I’ve had customers do shit like that to me before in a different situation. Idk if I would’ve been as calm as James was with her, I probably would’ve snapped and told her to get the fuck out.
@@Wrestlinggirl48 he made what she wanted despite going against the challenge and she still was trying to change it up. She was offered a free tattoo, in the setting of a competition, and was being difficult.
He is totally right. He is the artist, if he isn't comfortable tattooing a person, that is his choice. Yes, sometimes an artist puts their feelings aside to get the job done so they can get paid and do a tattoo they are proud of but they are human beings and have the right to refuse to be treated the way she treated him. The whole show is ridiculous. It's essentially the Americas next top model of the tattooing world. I can't imagine many world class artists would take it seriously.
It's kind of like waiters in a restaurant. Just because they're doing you a service, does not mean that the clients are allowed to treat you a certain way
@Nonaya Bidness of course she can quit. The issue is that she didn't manage her expectations and treated him like shit for not bending to her rules, which he couldn't do of he wanted to stay in the competition
@Nonaya Bidness I understand James reasonings. She was in the wrong the entire time. She knew going in what the challenge was supposed to be. She wouldn't work with him at all. He kept asking her what she like what she didn't but told him I look at it after you scratched it. They agree then next bam she starts in with him. He is trying to professional he even walks away to gather himself then follows nagging at him. Well your hand is shaking. He tells her he trying to calm down and focus to work and she starts in berating him. I don't blame him one bit. She was in the wrong no matter that judge said. He would through her ass to the curb long before James did.
@Nonaya Bidness lets see she knew what the challenge was coming into the episode. She knew that the challenge was texture. She would not work with him at all. He tried to get her involved by asking her about this or that she refused to tell him anything. The guy changed the design 3 times before she was okay with it. Then the day of tattooing she starts instigating drama. I understand that it's her body she has the right but the way say she treated him I can guarantee everyone of them would have tossed her as out the first day. There has to be two way communication between both the artist and the canvass, she was the one who wasn't willing to work with him.
That Natalie chick was impossible. She was so hard to work with that the dude had an anxiety/adrenaline surge making him shake. Totally human. She made me feel genuinely amazing about myself because I do my best to be super respectful and patient with my tattoo artist. Walking in refusing detail, being combative, making the tattooist go into fight or flight, resulting in serious shakes.
I'm sorry but Danger asked her to leave him alone for just a minute because he was trying to find his center. She kept nit picking and nagging at him. I'm not saying settle for something she didn't want. But she made me anxious for him and she wouldn't shut up even for a second. It did cost him but he wasn't wrong for telling her she wasn't the client for him. Mental health is more important. Not all money is good money. And that's saying something because this was free! Not worth it!
Yeah, nope. I would have flat out told her to shut up. That I need some time to focus and her constant drama is not helping. But then I'm a brutally honest kind of person.
It's called communication. He cnat just hide in a corner. He should tell her he needs a moment. Mental health is more important huh? Then why dont you think about her mental health from being anxious as well. Her responses were just as much from anxiety and nervousness from the situation yet you care about him and villanize her. her biases are gross. Stop saying you care about mental health if it doesnt apply to everyone. Not everyone with anxiety manifests it by shakiness. Read a damn book.
@@wnterbird2976 He really did say it..a couple of times. She just didn't care. And she didn't seem very anxious to me the way she was attacking him. Pretty sure I also stated that she didn't have to settle on a tattoo she didn't want. So before you open your mouth to tell me to read a book.... how about you learn some comprehension skills. Don't come on here and attack me because you sit behind a computer screen where you can't be touched. Get a dam life!
I agree with danger 110%! Any tattoo artist would refuse customers like that! That's a widely known fact. They aren't psychologists or doctors that should be able to calm and talk people in to do what they need to do! Tattoos are luxury services and the Tattoos Tattoo artists have the right to say no, not doing this.
Exactly! You could tell she wasn’t there for the artist/competition… she was there trying to get a free tatt that she wanted whether it costed him the competition or not.
i felt bad for Danger he was shaking cuz of stressed and she was all over him asking him if he's nervous like if that was going to make the situation better
The James Danger one was really hard to watch. She did everything possible to upset him and he couldn’t say anything to appease her at that point. He is right to not have to tattoo himself. It’s his body and he has to live with it too! So honestly the situation was really unjust in this case. If I were him I would have taken a banana or pig skin or something used in the world of practicing tattoos and done something…. But even so that might not have been enough.
@@joshuaadammagic54 She was being a dick/confrontational from the start. That wears on people over time and gets them nervous. Its a common reaction to get shakey when your nerves are shot.
They did Danger really dirty. They brought in a canvas that didnt even want a tattoo that would show off what the judges asked for. She was immediately combative and uncooperative. She had very very vague and non descript alterations without the capacity to convey them. She kept throwing the responsibility of denying the tattoo in his face instead of saying herself she wasnt going through with it. He got shafted
I feel awful for James Danger. That girl was coming in there to fight him. She didn’t like HIM. It wasn’t about the hand shaking or the complicated design. She couldn’t understand that she could have a negative effect on a person. She was literally giving him a panic attack. He deserves better. He had an option to tattoo himself and he had every right to say no, I don’t want this on my body. Poor guy
@Nonaya Bidness She should have just walked about when they said the challenge was texture. Or if she wanted a free tattoo from a competition don’t have specific ideas in mind because you probably aren’t gonna get them.
@Nonaya Bidness I was saying I agreed with you on the part about her conflict with the competition but she should have just sucked it up because she knew she was going into a competition for a free tattoo. She isn’t a client in this case. She’s part of a competition. If she knew she wanted something specific, she should haven’t have signed up and then stormed off.
They cost Danger his place on inkmaster. It has nothing to do with skill, and I have no clue why they couldn't give him a different canvas. That was extremely unfair
I say this all the time! A lot of these confrontations between the canvas and the artist I feel, are staged. If you watch their body language you can tell the combativeness is out of their normal character.
I couldn't be the only person who lost it when the judge brought up to James that the competition was for $100,000. As if that is life-changing money just to put a tattoo on himself that he knows he would regret.
And it isn't even guaranteed that he'd get that money anyways! So he would've put a tattoo on himself (that he didn't even want) and then would've possibly gone home soon after anyways. 😒
@@grenade.turtle the majority of the time artists are just expected to tattoo themselves to stay in the competition, or the judges will judge an unfinished tattoo
And I must add, that Dave defended James when they were deliberating about the situation. He said, that he doesn't think James should go home over this, because she provoked him and put him in that situation. And I agree, her fault completely.
These people are unreal, you want a free tattoo from one of the best artists in the country, and you wanna dictate every level of it too, if you want control of the tattoo, pay for it.
I couldn't have said it better myself.. it's crazy how some people are cool with litarally anything the artist wants to some asshole who wants the dumbest/unreal tattoo that should be thousands of dollars and five sessions in 6 hours.. I feel like the producers pick the people with the worst ideas for the show just for ratings
Exactly, and it's not like they're going on blind. When they agree to be a canvas the challenge is given to them beforehand, that way if its a technical challenges to do a portrait for instance they have time to choose said portrait. It's super unfair to go in thinking they can dictate a free tattoo that could cost somebody the competition.
Naw they are not the best in the country.. how many seasons of this show with how many contestants? Now the free tattoo part is like you get what you get lol
I mean understand both side, on one hand the tattoo is free so if you give them a concept and they go off that then cool, but on the other hand Duffy once said that it is easy to have an opinion on something we don't have to wear. The worst part is you can see on most canvases that the right away know they walking out and they continue to stay yo waste the artist time.
Yeah, if he got any new customers from this show, I'll be shocked. Also clean: "First time tattoo folks are whiny little bitches" ...and he actually said, "I don't do this crap, I'm not a nerd" ...What an ass.
Despite him getting eliminated I think the guy with the Phoenix tattoo absolutely did the right thing. His chances of winning the whole competition with 2 years experience was slim to none, and I agree that he shouldn’t have had to tattoo himself with something he doesn’t want/doesn’t like and will be a constant reminder of a terrible time. I agree with not doing the tattoo too and telling her “I’m not the right artist for you” because if she was like that before he started…she was going to fight him every second through the tattoo and ultimately it probably would not have been done well because of her attitude and difficulty and he would be sent home regardless.
@@KD-qp3gc that logic makes no sense. People have different tastes & styles. Just because that’s something his client wanted doesn’t mean it’s going to be something he wants 😂
@@JaelWasFramed He didn't have to do THAT tattoo. That was the point the judges were making - with himself as the canvas, he could have done literally anything he wanted. Now, I'm not saying he should have to put permanent ink on his body if he doesn't want to, just that he didn't have to do THAT design.
Shaking is what happens when someone is holding back a lot of angry energy. He did everything right. I'd have legit told her to leave the second she got combative.
I get shaky if I'm very anxious or angry for me to have it stop is a minute or two by myself for a bit if that girl had just left him alone for at least 5 minutes the shaking would have stopped she just had to leave him alone and stop nitpicking everything non stop
Natalie saw how anxious he was and used that as a tool to bully him. We witnessed him being backed into a corner. A tattoo artist isn’t there to baby or comfort their client. They work with them and will aim to give the client what they want (within their skill set). In this competition they expected him to cater to her. HOWEVER, being emotionally abused wouldn’t fly in a real shop. Any artist would stick their foot up your ass before they stand to be disrespected.
Ya she’s clearly never had actual anxiety problems before because all she was doing was aggravating him further. If she’s nervous about his hand shaking a bit maybe she should try SHUTTING UP to see if that helps. I can see with how far he was being pushed that he actually handled better than most people could, especially being on tv with 100K on the line.
Rule #1... If you dont get along with your artist, then don't get tattooed by them. Having good chemistry is very important. Danger did nothing wrong there.
Exactly. Also I think when the judges say you need to know how to get along with your clients. Yeah maybe on the show. In real life any respectable artist would have told Danger’s canvas to get the hell out of their shop if she pulled that BS.
Yeah she really had a serious attitude. If she didn't like the tattoo she could have gone a whole other route than be rude and condescending for no reason. Like it's not hard to disagree with someone and be cordial about it.
By that logic she did nothing wrong too. He was unwilling to compromise on design and made her feel nervous for something that he was going to put on her body permanently
@@toddpacker867 he WAS willing to compromise. She was the one who was so demanding for a free tattoo. She kept pushing instead of giving him a few minutes to relax. "Your hand is shaking," Well, yeah, he's in a high-pressure competition with a time limit that has already started, and she still wants changes. So she wants a master-level "simple" tattoo for free--and, SHE AGREED TO THE TERMS OF THE CHALLENGE BUT NOW WANTS TO CHANGE THEM.
I feel really bad for the artist with the bleeding rainbow eye tattoo. They were told they could do whatever they wanted, and because her canvas wasted her time she didn't get to finish her tattoo. She should have had her time restart
I don't, she could've simply adapted to the first canvas rather than being stubborn and stuck on one design. Shows what a weak artist they are if they can't handle any adversity
Theyre all given the same amount of time to do their tattoos. Clock starts when the needle touches the skin. Past contestants have discussed this in interviews.
@@johnbishop7572 ....Just like how he couldn't handle and adversity and wouldn't let her adhere to challenge? Maybe he was too stupid to explain to his son what a skull is, I mean he couldn't even give examples of what he would've wanted. Shut up.
They were told they could do whatever they wanted, BUT the person getting the tattoo didn't tell her that. I don't feel like the "canvas" wasted her time. Are you willing to walk into a tattoo shop, and be forced to get a specific tattoo, because that's what they feel like doing that day?
Danger was right. She was honestly difficult at the start. Then she kept escalating it. If she'd just given him one minute to catch his breath then this could've been done.
@@falseprophet1024 his ego was hurt and he wanted to throw a tantrum. Throwing his book away, then saying 'I want to flip a couch over'? That is incredibly unprofessional behaviour, and a red flag in anyone.
Respect for James for staying calm during her provocation and for not putting a tattoo on his body that he did not want there and 'let her affect the rest of my life'. I really liked how he worded it. And he confronted the judges and explained his side. He refused to bend down for money. RESPECT
The back up canvas for Jason was literally an angel. Guy just walked in ready to get a permanent tattoo on his body just to help someone who *might* win a competition for themselves
Feel sorry for James. Would of loved to see ANY of these tattoo artists try to deal with a client like Natalie. Not only was she being overly aggressive and combative with him, but she's also a gaslighter. Also, if you see someone's hand is shaking due to nervousness(which, btw, who would notice but someone looking for confrontation like her) hmm idk, maybe DON'T escalate things further. And these judges are just... Big Corpo personified. Basically want you to demean yourself and your worth for a slimeball who's not even paying anything. WHICH IS WORSE lol
@@pincksugar That's exactly what it reminded me of. That "the customer is always right" mentality. Which people think is a go ahead to treat people like garbage.
@@soburnt17 I personally didn't think it was that bad, but either way, you see buddy shaking why not try to de escalate the situation? James was trying but she most def was not. I work in customer service and I see people like this all the time. They just wanna agitate you into making a mistake that they can profit off of or just until they get what they want. Like a child. Natalie is a legit child. No excuse for her behaviour.
He actually handled it very well. I think if i am the guys who is going to tattoo her i will be livid. And the other artist who said otherwise should be in his position before they speak.
I knew there was gonna be an issue as soon as Danger's canvas said, 'you were yelling at me yesterday.' He absolutely was not. He was anxious, I think she was secretly too anxious to be there, too, and her nervousness rubbed Danger the wrong way. Or she was paid by the runners to be a pain. Either way. ETA: Danger did nothing wrong, just to be clear. He handled it as well as he could and, yeah, professional artists can turn people away. Especially if they're so talented that their books are probably filled a year in advance.
He messed up when he said "It needs to have texture or there's no point in me doing the tattoo.". He should have had a softer approach to try to understand what it is she actually wanted. He definitely seemed to have his own ideas of what he wanted to do. He could have been more willing to work with her and been a bit less defensive. Ps. I'm not saying she handled the situation well.
Honestly, I'd refuse to work with a difficult canvas, like Natalie. She just wanted to be a pain in the ass. It goes the same way with an artist who has that kind of bad attitude.
She was an unrelenting unreasonable bitch. I betcha if anyone else had a client like that they would’ve said ‘get out of my shop, and have a nice day.’
Yep, especially given Jason Clay Dunn's own reaction when canvases left him -- and he got replacements! Josh also comes off as a bit of a hypocrite when you know that, when the shoe was on his foot, he was none too pleased with the way his canvas spoke to him.
That client with the phoenix tattoo was aggressive, completely unreasonable, and intentionally confrontational. I hope she got what she wanted out of that 15 seconds of fame, because all of that was entirely too much. That tattoo artist did the right thing and just let her walk. And that one judge wanted the guy to permanently deface a part of his body for the sake of a stupid competition? Nah fam, that guy got done dirty. He was as calm and composed as anyone could be in that situation, and I'd love to have seen some of the other artists deal with a person who was that willfully aggravating.
It pisses me off nobody defending James those judges are so bias and they make me sick I’ve heard real artists decline being on the show because these crappy judges and I totally get it
@@dhruvigadhia1297 jer on her body but if I was so picky I would go to a tattoo artist and pay him. This was a competition and there are a lot of people who volunteere to be a canvas. People who volunteer for it know that they not always get what they want.
@@dhruvigadhia1297 I find a lot of wrong with that. First of all if you go to a tattoo artist and you don't like the sketch you still have to pay for it. Second the sketch was not that big of a problem, her problem was that she didn't trust the artist and expected special treatment. What is reasonable if you pay for a tattoo but this was a competition. The tattoo artist has no obligation to you that should be very clear. If you sign up for a free tattoo it should be clear to everyone that it is possible to get something that you don't like. Not every canvas gets tattooed by the next ink master so you should be aware that you don't always get what you want. If you don't want the risk of a bad tattoo, don't volunteer for it. After all beggars can't be choosers.
The amount of pressure they put on Danger for not tattooing himself is ridiculous. If that was a client you'd say they have a right to refuse a tattoo they don't like. That'll stay on you forever.
Cleen's a good example of how to work with clients, he looks like a meat head gym bro, but when talking to the nervous girl, he's like "A Calf on your calf, so cute girl" and gives her a high five. Don just looks at people with a blank stare
Ikr, I loved the tattoo, but also wouldn't have gotten it because Don isn't great at building at least a little bit of rapport with the client and I'd feel really anxious about him tattooing me :x
I love Cleen. He has this super approachable, amicable vibe and doesn't judge what the canvases want. That Don guy tho gave me MAJOR red flags. Just the way he is so expressionless and flips the note at the end, lmao serial killer vibes
I'm real surprised at everyones take with Cleen, he rubbed me the wrong way with his arrogans and especially the negativity toward his fellow tattoo artist that he was supposed to help mind you. He seemed to just want to steamroll the entire situation and take over completely, but wasn't allowed. Of course I realise I could be misreading him or the situation or whatever, just putting my two cents out there.
That second woman was INSUFERRABLE. She was clearly projecting all her insecurities and her last-minute regret onto Danger. She should have just walked out if she didn’t want to get tattooed anymore.
Same with me. Competition or not I think he did the right thing by saying he wasn't the one for her. I've had artists tell me that and I wasn't mad about it.
hell yeah she was doing it on purpose. they even interviewed her which i dont think has ever happened on the show before. she did it all for her spot on tv
That girl with Danger was terrible. If she went to an actual shop and acted that way they would have kicked her out of the shop and possibly blacklisted her to every other shop to. Danger never yelled at her. She just kept picking at him and picking at him. He was completely respectful to her. She was the problem. I feel sorry for anyone who is in her family or any man she gets with. She is the ultimate definition of b****.
Jason arguing with his client about the geisha really ticked me off. The challenge was for a Japanese pinup girl, not specifically a geisha. The canvas said he was ok with anything Japanese but he didn’t want a geisha. Jason could have done a shrine maiden, a kitsune or a yukihime. Heck, he could have done an anime style girl.
He was panicking very early on. In a situation like that, the best thing to do is walk away/disengage and come back with a clear mind, at least, for me. Then again, Danger tried to do that, and the lady literally stood over him asking dumb questions. 😭😭😑😑
@@bmerritt2433 I have a cousin like that lady. They are a funny personality type. Hyper combative until they receive any sort of resistance. And my personality is hyper combative and ENJOYS combative people. So let's just say our family get-togethers had a lot of her crying and sobbing and a very confused me. She married this super chill guy that can blow smoke up her ass with charm and ease. If this crazy woman is anything like my cousin, she's got a lot of really good qualities....but that one combo makes them appear ugly and pathetic.
@@ambertheartist i normally agree that the canvases should know what they’re signing up for but i’m mostly surprised that he specializes in japanese but somehow he couldn’t be flexible with not doing a geisha? like op said a shrine maiden or a kitsune would’ve been perfectly fine too
They just kept roasting him and downright calling him awful, but he literally remained calm and respectful even though he was increasingly frustrated w her. She literally came out the gate on the second day, claiming he YELLED at her and he did not. Maybe they just edited the show differently because I did not see all this ugly behavior they were accusing him of.
The show encouraged the participants being nasty to each other. They want drama and conflict is drama. If they focused more on the art side of the show it would still be interesting to watch but American reality TV is big on planted conflicts.
Funny how jason had a client walk out on him also not wanting the tattoo in which he told Danger that he should never have a client walk off lol. Small world
i just want to say cleen has always rubbed me the RIGHT way. he’s always come off as just confident enough, he hasn’t been a bad sport on the show, when he coached he did great, and wasn’t trying to be a sick to the other team, like christian did at times. he gives me good vibes
I actually visited Cleen’s shop in Vegas a few months ago. Obviously I couldn’t get any work done because they had to book months in advance, but he had some down time and spoke with us for a while. He’s probably the nicest and realest dude this show has ever had
I didn’t think I could have more respect for Anthony than I already did, and then he went and volunteered to replace a tough canvas. He’s definitely my favorite Ink Master
Dave defending Danger was awesome. He did the same thing in the episode before that when Mystical Mike started trashing Ally’s tattoo. Love him so much ❤
Exactly!! His canvas was being super unreasonable and was just adding even more intense emotion to the situation. The poor guy was doing the best he could've. I honestly think he handled the situation pretty well- trying to reason with someone like that is damn near impossible.
Those 2 have been in a lot of confrontation on the show and it's kinda funny when they call him the asshole, while they were hated in the episodes they've been on
I’ve noticed how James never attacked her either. He told her how she was making him feeling but never said anything negative or demeaning and kept incredibly calm. I admire tattoos, but doubt that I would ever get one. But if I did I’d probably have a general idea and let the tattoo artist take it from their. Tattooists know what they’re doing for the most part so I’m not going to criticize anything they do.
Not telling the returning canvas that they are going to be tattooed by the same artist that messed up their first piece is going to cause anxiety and tension! No wonder they didn’t want to go through with the tattoo!
Yeah I agree, but I feel like if they drew a full calf in an old story book style she would have done it tho the final design was well done but not cute
honestly though the guy really didn't do himself any favours. His attitude was just really poor. I mean when she first saw him and (understandably) expressed initial doubt and he replied with "then why are we standing here"... like dude seriously? I'm not sure whether he just has really bad social skills or whether he's just a bit of a douche.
@@Jackson-pu7gd And then he was so disrespectful at the end after she left! She was honest but polite, and clearly uncomfortable. And if he's going to start feeling violent (throwing the book, saying he wanted to tip a couch over) then she was right to be uncomfortable! He's a big guy, she's small, and he gets physical when he gets his ego bruised. He was really unprofessional. The ego should be put away and you focus on the job.
Gotta feel for that first lady though, she literally COULDNT tattoo someone for the first 30 minutes because her canvas backed out after seeing EVERY idea she had.
I mean what she lacked was creativity tbh, like the design she made was ugly to begin with, and the execution wasn’t all that, tattoo masters should be able to adapt
That guy really pissed me off. If the challenge is open to the artist and they get creative freedom, that means all the canvases will have agreed to be open. You can't agree to be open to anything, then shoot down every idea you're presented with.
Honestly I feel that the lady with the pig pinup acted so kindly to Don. Him and Cleen pretending that she was ridiculous for leaving when really I wouldn't have trusted him a second time either... she was nice to him the whole time, just didn't want another tattoo from him.
I don’t blame her either. I think she wanted him to get redemption by showing his drawing to the world but couldn’t personally commit to that on her body for fear from her last experience.
The tattoo the designed looked way more dark in vibe than the other ink she has too, if she wasn't confident in the design or liked it why should she put her skin out there again, this isn't even a competition for money!
Her whole "i feel uncomfortable" bullshit was too much. She tried to reflect a bad tattoo on the dudes character and made it seem like she was too afraid to be around him as if he was a pedo or some shit.
@@scragglebum no, his whole vibe was so off. Like, he barely apologizes and only wants to do the tattoo to show that he's better, not because he's sorry. I wouldn't be able to trust someone after they kept on being like "no, it will be fine" when it did not turn out fine
I can't believe everyone tries to Gaslight Danger into thinking that Natalie was a rational customer or that he has to permanently tattoo himself something he hates. If his work on the flash challenge was as bad as the judges say then why do they expect him to tattoo himself for the small chance of winning which is basically 0
I definitely understand the girl who didn’t want to get tattooed by Don, especially bc of how he acted when she left. She could tell something was off and she was right
But tbh his design was on point! I understand she was not feeling comfortable, but like girl - u signed to get a free tattoo, u didn't like but it's not like u were paying for that or giving anything except your body. If you're going to nitpick designs just go to the artist you like and pay for that like a normal human being and not sign up for a competition tattoo. In addition to that, I think that his behaviour was off because he was stressed as hell and scared, maybe even disappointed in himself and his previous design. He wanted redemption and a possibility to prove himself once again in being an artist but this opportunity was destroyed before he even started. As a tattoo artist myself, I would also be sad and angry and hurt that I lost this kind of chance, so I don't think it's okay to shame him for his stern attitude. Not a problem that she refused but also not a problem that he was feeling human emotions.
@@xxTheHinata8xx they didn't tell her that the tattoo artist was the one that messed up her last tattoo , she didn't sign up for that, and throughout the talking process he just kept doing blank stares. She being uncomfortable was completely justified and wanting not to have it by him is too.
@@someonefartedwhilereadingt9917 Absolutely this. Having your body violated by terrible art - no matter whether or not it's free - is a traumatizing experience, and springing that trauma on her again in a situation where she's already nervous is honestly cruel. They both deserved better than how this show handled that situation.
I feel bad for him. It is one thing to judge the art. She was just mean for justifiable reasons and his reaction was not surprising to me. It is one thing to screw up but not to get any sort of way to say sorry for it sucks even more so if they hate you as a person. It is a terrible feeling, probably, and this is coming from someone that does not get that level of hate from people.
@@Shastasnow But did he actually say "sorry"? Did he actually seem apologetic to you? The client seemed to be fishing for an apology, but he could only talk about his feelings, not openly considering hers. To be fair, many people in the real world are like this.
I just watched the season with James Danger and that client was literally the worst! There was no reason he should’ve gotten eliminated for that. And of course no one came to his defense. Terrible judgment by the “judges”. In the real world, any respectable tattoo artist would literally tell them to leave and find another artist to work with them. The artist has to be just as calm as the client.
I just got a tattoo yesterday and a artist literally did just that because the person kept asking him to change things and he did 3 different drawings so he told the dude to find another artist because he wasn't doing anymore for him
T.V. shows are a form of manipulation behind the scenes. If one of them talked back and questions the judgements of the judges, it would be taken note and they'll probably be cut from the show
My mouth was literally wide open. When the last guy said he was okay with black and grey, then it cuts to the next scene where he said he isn’t okay with it and he never said it. Wow he really was trying to embarrass that tattoo guy. Wow I was shocked how he lied.
I guess I understood the situation wrong. I thought he didn’t mind some black and grey for slight details, but that he still wanted a colored tattoo 🤔 ? And then he showed him an all black and grey(blue) tattoo. Correct me if I’m worng
I got both sides. He mentioned not minding some black and grey but there was some miscommunication and he may not have realized Mike meant complete black and grey. And Mike wasn’t aggressive or anything. But the way the client acted with the “Nuh nuh nuh no” came off so immature.
Dave was the only one who understood James Danger. I think he was totally in the right and I don't see why Chris had to get sexist about it. James was crouching because his computer was down there and he was TRYING to calm down but the canvas wouldn't let him. She makes me so angry tbh. If someone came to me and looked through my portfolio and said "nothing like that is going on my body!" I would tell them I'm not the artist for them too. And he didn't 86 her out of nowhere like she said, she said "just say it and I'll leave". I think she just wanted to be on TV she should not have gone on the show. She totally backed him into a corner and harassed him into snapping and it pisses me off that nobody had his back.
If he cant fucking tattoo a new style he wasnt gonna win anyway. If all he can do is repeat the same bs over and over. Chris being sexist???? Of cousre you have more sympathy for the whyte man than the black woman getting her tattoo done. How dare black women be nervous. ANd how dare they have a say on what goes on their bodies huh? Nobody had his back bc he handled it horribly.
@@wnterbird2976 He did Tattoo a different style. He wanted to Go complex(Texture) because that was the Challenge and The Canvas wanted something plain and simple. That's where the problem started. She wanted 100% Say so on a competition Challenge and if she would of gotten her way not only would she be happy but James would of gotten eliminated for not following the rules. She Berated him and Totally acted like a Child the Whole time while he was trying to calm himself down. Weirdly enough Some people get new Canvases to work on while Others don't.
@@mtgUK2015 I honestly think it was a miscommunication on her part. She saw his portfolio, consistent of bright, striking colors and clearly defined bold edges, and wasn't ready for that. To me, she seemed like a pastel, watercolor kind of girl. And instead of properly communicating that she'd prefer color realism or something flowy, she said she wanted something simple. Which he then understandably took quite harshly, because simple and texture rarely mix. And by that time she'd made up her mind that he wasn't going to deliver on what she wanted anyways and started blocking herself off and freaking herself out, which in turn freaked him out. He couldn't have done anything to get her to agree to his design.
@@wnterbird2976 LOL, you just can’t hide your hatred for beautiful white men. She called Chris sexist, that’s a negative judgement, but you hate white peoples so much; I’d say blinded by it, that you think she was supporting him… that or you can’t read, which as a blq wymin, makes equal sense and both are probably true. A mix tape of ignorance.
Danger handled the situation incredibly well. He stayed calm, and communicated his feelings so that he could get the best outcome for both himself, and the canvas. Sometimes you just can't win.
They need to make these "Master Canvases" sign a waiver or something, they can't just say they are open to ANY kind of tattoo and then turn around and be like "but not that one lol"
It is part of the contract. I looked into being a canvas, and it is one of the things you need to sign. I think all that happens if you break it, is no tattoo. It's been a good number of years and I'm going off memory
That's the mentality that's the difference between winning and leading, and between having trivial self centered attitudes and letting defeat rule you. You'll work as a service to others and make personal sacrifices for the betterment of the group and don't have a shitty entitled civilian mentality.
6:34 that woman would have been immediately kicked out of my shop. What she’s doing is pushing for a fight and a tv moment in a show THATS NOT ABOUT HER!
Excuse me? It’s 100% about her. It’s her body. Once this show is over, it’s on HER body. He’s gonna forget about her and move on. SHE has to live with this.
@ if you think that excuses that attitude and the fact she came in there to get into an argument for tv clout then you definitely have some brain rot going on
The second woman is infuriating. She was 100% of the issues with that tattoo. I like painting and drawing because it cant verbally attack me into being unable to do art
Danger deserves a redemption more than anyone, in my opinion. Not with that girl. But someone. He was berated by an impossible client. If you've ever lived with or dealt with a girl like that. You know no matter what he said she was still going to say no. She wanted to cause trouble.
All the other artists were judging James but Natalie kept going at him. I feel he did the right thing, everyone expects these artists to degrade themselves and suck up to people who are putting them down. Artists have the right to refuse a customer that is disrespecting them.
It remains reality TV. Even their outfits are scripted. I remember seeing something with Clean post Ink master and he said something along the line of "I can finally wear sleeves".
honestly, i don’t blame the girl who felt very uncomfortable about getting tattooed from don. the blank stares was more than enough to make her feel very uneasy and even the way he reacted after she left, you can tell he was holding back his bubbling anger. if it was only cleen, she definitely would’ve gotten the tattoo done by him because the design was pretty cute ngl. hopefully she got a better tattoo that covered up the nasty one though
@@Dro_Nem from what was shown, I honestly don't blame her for not wanting to trust him again. If someone tattooed that on me, I'd be very wary to give them a second chance and, yeah, I'd be uncomfortable in a room with them. Now, there was probably more than that, I haven't watch either episode she's in, but from the clips shown, I wouldn't say she was unreasonable, especially considering how against help Don was after he'd already messed up a piece on this girl...
Yeah it was very cute! But i totally understand why she didnt want to be tattooed by Don, he messed up her body and she has a right to push him away. Lowkey, i would have done the same
6:56 honestly in this situation Danger did a great job handling it. If he struggles with keeping calm separating himself from the conflict for a second is a good action to take, of course it was absolutely perfect but it's far better from other conflicts I've seen. He softened his tone, tried to communicate, put the past behind him, etc...
The world needs Anthony cloned a few hundred thousand times. He is a stand-up kind of guy and has a huge heart and integrity. He is my all-time favorite person on this show. I have no tattoos but if I were to get something it would be by Kelly or Anthony Michaels.
I really dislike the unfairness that often comes with these bad clients. The show should boot people who aren’t there to get the tattoo that these artists are assigned. I mean come on. Of course an artist will fail the challenge if they can’t complete it in time due to a client not liking the ideas, or a client not wanting the design the challenge calls for. And in the real world of tattooing, the artists boots clients like this. Also to add, the judges really sat there and said you have to charm them? They don’t have fucking time to charm these clients. This is a tattooing competition. Not a how well you can charm the client competition! Again. They shouldn’t allow people into this studio who aren’t willing to get the tattoo the people are assigned to do. Some people you can’t just “charm” into getting a life long commitment. Again it’s completely unfair. I mean come on. For exampleThe assignment is to tattoo a demon but the canvas is Christian. How are you going to charm them into getting a demon tattoo? Like the fuck?
@@vinniecousinofvito6401 true, but if you are going to add drama you have to at least still be fair to your artists. In all this Is an art competition. If they are going to throw in these bad Clients on purpose the show can’t just boot them for failing even though they essentially set them up to do so. It’s just- common.
@@vinniecousinofvito6401 I don’t eat it up, I felt anxious watching it. It makes me not want to watch more of the show. I just want to see people tattoo other people, good and bad. Not needless drama, I had enough of that from real life.
when working with a client you don’t dismiss their critiques period. you work together and that artist didn’t want to work together with that client. it’s okay to deny clients for that reason but when you have to work with that client you don’t dismiss anything they tell you. it’s going on THEIR body.
@@Lifeonnmarz she literally volunteered for a free tat on a tv show. if you know you're gonna be that picky about designs, don't choose to go on a show where you can't control every single aspect! plus she was a massive dick about it all. while he's trying to calm himself down she keeps poking and prodding at the situation and continuing to escalate, instead of just taking a 5 minute break and letting everyone recollect themselves. no productive criticism is gonna be made if everyone's pissed off (also - artists can turn away clients. no artist needs to put up with this shit, they have the same right to refuse service as everyone else.)
@@Lifeonnmarz it's free, it's for a challenge and shes intentionally going against said challenge, and she's stressing him out while not respecting him as a person. She also signed up for exactly what they were doing, she didn't want to be a canvas, she wanted a free tattoo of her personal choosing.
Danger did not deserve that at all. The way she kept berating him, accusing him, using his emotions against him, that just wasnt fair. Not to mention, when he asked to confirm what she did want, she basically said "no, figure it out then ill see if it right when youre done". He was working with her and she wouldn't cooperate at all.
Danger had a point. Being a master tattooer has nothing to do with “knowing how to deal with problem clients”. Every real life master tattooer will REFUSE any client they want to, especially if they’re giving them a hard time.
Yeah, that goes for any artistic job, be it a painting, a logo, web design, whatever. If the artist and the client can’t meet in the middle, then the artist has the right to move on and not work with that person, cause what’s the point? The result is going to upset the client no matter what, so it’d be a waste of time.
I disagree, tattoo artist are in the business of providing a service. Knowing how how to deal with customers are a part of it.
@@qs4177 in a real shop she would’ve gotten kicked out for acting like she did. Unacceptable behavior. She was being a child
@@qs4177 yeah, no. Most artists are booked out for months. If someone is being ridiculous it’s not hard to tell them to fuck off
@@qs4177 I think it's safe to say you've never worked retail in your life if that's your mindset. Sometimes "knowing how to deal with customers" is telling them they need to leave because it's not okay to treat people like garbage. Despite what you might think the customer is NOT always right, and you don't deserve my respect if you're going to treat me like that. NO ONE should just have to get used to people treating them like shit.
I actually agree with James Danger. I think he tried to work it out with her but she kept trying to carry on a fight. I really believe there are people that go into situations just to disrupt them. She is one of those people.
We call them Karens nowadays
He's not nervous he's agitated and our bodies don't like holding that much negative emotion in she's infuriating I'd be shaking too
I guarantee she wanted to control the situation, like the people who tell a cashier that they pay their salary and to do and act as they say
Exactly well said he kept his cool she kept on going he put up with it and really didn’t have to proud of him 🦾😂
Exactly. When he said he’s trying to calm down, she should have backed off instead of continuing to prob him. Some peoples’ responses to stress and anger is that they shake, he’s not nervous, just angry.
danger literally did everything right? he kept himself calm, he kept his voice level, he tried to self-regulate to calm himself down while she continued to berate him. i cant find a flaw in his response, i really cant. she forced him to quit on her. she literally forced it. so mad about this
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Yeah. She was freaking out about him shaking and he literally said he was trying to calm down so he could tattoo her so she should have just walked away so both of them could chill for a bit.
Yea when you’re getting a tattoo I think it’s fair that you would be nervous about someone shaking.
@@Carmen-qg8ym her behavior caused him to start shaking and she continued when he tried to calm himself down. you'll start to be able to pick things up like this when you get out of middle school.
@@Carmen-qg8ym shouldn't be surprising with how she was. She had won't drop something. She is getting a tattoo for free on a time limit. She what's what she want and with that type for attitude she shouldn't has agreed to this. They have goals they have to reach to keep going. If she wanted a tattoo that she could nippick and everything pay for it. I don't know I just didn't like her that much.
I respect Danger for not tattooing himself. Even though the judges tried to say he had the perfect opportunity and client (himself), he didn't want that tattoo and that's a decision that cost him the competition, but ultimately saved him from having regrets about getting a tattoo he ultimately didn't even want.
Yeah, but at the same time I was thinking "if he doesn't want that Fenix tattooed, why should her?"
Im not saying she was right, she was clearly being intentionally difficult from the start. But he did say that he didn't want the design tattooed on him, making me think that it was not about the occasion, but the design.
@@carlareis2360 She signed up for a show where they get a prompt to tattoo and she gets that for free. That is why "she should" even though he doesn't.
@@carlareis2360Not wanting a design on you doesn't means anything. First it wasn't really what the prompt was about, and he was just trying to be flexible with her while still getting the prompt done, so there was no time to make another design and the current didn't fit his style.
@@carlareis2360 thought the same. It was an ugly Phoenix.
Yeah 100k isn't enough money to regret something for the rest of your life.
It annoyed me that no one defended James. No artist would accept a client like her in their shop. Smh what a shame they did him like that. Why not offer another canvas like the first woman or Jason. Makes me not want to watch the show.
Right - at this point, with however many volunteers they get for free tattoos, you'd think they would have backups ready for each challenge. Heck at that point, you could probably just have a waiver for the show to sign and just grab someone off the street.
I believe james was the first time they had a client walk out. They weren't ready for that, though they should've been. Im with you that they should've defended him. That was total bs
I watched the episode before. It seems that Dave and Jime were the only ones defending James. Jason later made a (now deleted) video defending him as well.
@@caiawren6100 exactly! Literally go outside and ask who wants a free tattoo and opportunity to be on tv?! And they should have backups because people chicken out at the last minute or pass out or even get an emergency call and have to leave. 🤦🏻♀️ I wasn’t happy lol
@@tianag8513 true, that could be the case. But they should have backups for certain situations. But no one backing him up? NOT EVEN THE CAMERA MAN?! Lol nope, that I can’t excuse. I felt so bad for him and his anger was valid but they tried to use reverse psychology on him. I would of been the artist to speak up like “nope, I heard her and she was a bitch & he was acting better than I would have because I would of asked her to leave and I’ll tattoo myself.” But because they’re more concerned with winning, they forgot how to support their fellow artist.
Poor James, everyone jumped on him for how that client treated him, she completely instigated him and the others used that to get him eliminated
"people dont wanna be tattood by an asshole" hes right. noted to never get a tattoo crom that red bearded asshat. holier than thou self-righteous dickhead. james was a great reat man
I agree! It was very unfair.
He got railroaded. He could have took a different approach regarding her but he got screwed.
Its felt like she was gaslighting him
She just wanted her 15mins of fame
Natalie was a nightmare from start to finish. It seemed ridiculous they wanted him to charm her, when in reality, those artists have the opportunity to bounce difficult clients
yeah she waLked in being a Karen that jst wants a Peace & LoVe infinity sign tattoo….. knowing that they need to giVe them something with high detail. i get why he keePs getting frUstrated im the same way he’s trying to teLL her that he needs to take a breath and she needs to jst giVe him a min. He is showing signs of an anxiety attack brewing. U can’t be Like that.
IKR!
I completely disagree. She knew what she wanted and asked for it. He did not listen and was trembling before tattooing her. Would you really get a tattoo from someone that is trembling? She made the right call.
@@holocene2164 Agreed.
She was so passive aggressive with everything and then want him to tattoo his own leg with something he doesn’t want permanently on his body. Really?
Can we give Anthony some props for jumping in as a canvas to save his teammate? Absolute king.
natalie being "a real person" is the best joke of the day.
im assuming shes single… ahhhhhahaha
@@user-dm9il4vp5w couldn't see someone dating her with that attitude.
Yeah she seemed like she was either there for 15 min of fame or a plant by production
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@@user-dm9il4vp5w oh definitely lol. That attitude will lose a persons interest in 10 seconds.
James is the only one who has come close to calling out this show for what it is. Unreal flash challenges that have nothing to do with tattoo, judged by three peoples opinions of likes /dislikes and nit picking....
Accurate
They also regularly ignore huge flaws in tattoos if they like the artist or "overall vibe"
I mean it’s for TV, what do you really expect?
This show is giving people 100,000 for entertainment. It's tv. Going to a seminar for real information
Huh, you mean what they signed up for?
Honestly, I think Danger was totally right to tell that person that he wasn't the right tattoo artist for her. Artists have just as much a right to feel safe as their clients do. She repeatedly disrespected his boundaries, yelling and berating him when he asked her to walk away so that he could calm down. Being an artist definitely means being able to work with and compromise with your canvases, but it doesn't mean having to take abuse.
Yeah she was out the gate acting crazy and negative and combative. She immediately said I hate every single one of your designs and nothing like that is going on my body. It was so unnecessarily aggressive I think she did it on purpose to get more camera time on the show. I feel bad for him.
Absolutely
Thank you! That woman was absolutely disgusting
Snowflakes shouldn't be tattooing alphas, period.
Being aggressive is being an idiotic arsehole not an alpha
Anthony is such a good team leader, stepping up and letting Mike tattoo him when his canvas walked out, which makes a great person. Not everyone would let someone tattoo on them last minute especially someone that needs to be there for the rest of their team and can't.
Anthony is a class act
I’m so glad Natalie’s behaviour was on camera because it’s a reminder that the customer isn’t always right. She just wanted to cause a scene and was really pushing his buttons so he would snap. He’s a tattoo artist not her cheating ex.
Exactly!
She’s was giving ME anxiety, like all she was there for was to cause problems HE was willing to compromise HE changed the design multiple times and while everyone else had started tattooing he was still trying to make something she was happy with
He’s better than me I would’ve told her to leave I would HAVE yelled 😅
She even said i like the design but if we can get the attitude in line bitch you're the one with an attitude what are you on about
Ngl I wasn’t him and she was almost giving me a panic attack because I’ve had customers do shit like that to me before in a different situation. Idk if I would’ve been as calm as James was with her, I probably would’ve snapped and told her to get the fuck out.
She a human red flag.
James Danger got done so wrong. The judges were pricks to himin the end.
They was they are jerks for that idc what nobody says.
He was trying to make the girl uncomfortable. She td him what she wanted and he didn't care what she wanted.
@@Wrestlinggirl48 he made what she wanted despite going against the challenge and she still was trying to change it up. She was offered a free tattoo, in the setting of a competition, and was being difficult.
@@ColoRican68 Danger shouldn't have tried to coerce her into something she didn't want.
@@Wrestlinggirl48 but........he didn't
He is totally right. He is the artist, if he isn't comfortable tattooing a person, that is his choice. Yes, sometimes an artist puts their feelings aside to get the job done so they can get paid and do a tattoo they are proud of but they are human beings and have the right to refuse to be treated the way she treated him. The whole show is ridiculous. It's essentially the Americas next top model of the tattooing world. I can't imagine many world class artists would take it seriously.
It's kind of like waiters in a restaurant. Just because they're doing you a service, does not mean that the clients are allowed to treat you a certain way
@Nonaya Bidness Well if they wanted something professional, then they shouldnt have signed up for a free tattoo at a competition
@Nonaya Bidness of course she can quit. The issue is that she didn't manage her expectations and treated him like shit for not bending to her rules, which he couldn't do of he wanted to stay in the competition
@Nonaya Bidness I understand James reasonings. She was in the wrong the entire time. She knew going in what the challenge was supposed to be. She wouldn't work with him at all. He kept asking her what she like what she didn't but told him I look at it after you scratched it. They agree then next bam she starts in with him. He is trying to professional he even walks away to gather himself then follows nagging at him. Well your hand is shaking. He tells her he trying to calm down and focus to work and she starts in berating him. I don't blame him one bit. She was in the wrong no matter that judge said. He would through her ass to the curb long before James did.
@Nonaya Bidness lets see she knew what the challenge was coming into the episode. She knew that the challenge was texture. She would not work with him at all. He tried to get her involved by asking her about this or that she refused to tell him anything. The guy changed the design 3 times before she was okay with it. Then the day of tattooing she starts instigating drama. I understand that it's her body she has the right but the way say she treated him I can guarantee everyone of them would have tossed her as out the first day. There has to be two way communication between both the artist and the canvass, she was the one who wasn't willing to work with him.
That Natalie chick was impossible. She was so hard to work with that the dude had an anxiety/adrenaline surge making him shake. Totally human.
She made me feel genuinely amazing about myself because I do my best to be super respectful and patient with my tattoo artist.
Walking in refusing detail, being combative, making the tattooist go into fight or flight, resulting in serious shakes.
I'm sorry but Danger asked her to leave him alone for just a minute because he was trying to find his center. She kept nit picking and nagging at him. I'm not saying settle for something she didn't want. But she made me anxious for him and she wouldn't shut up even for a second. It did cost him but he wasn't wrong for telling her she wasn't the client for him. Mental health is more important. Not all money is good money. And that's saying something because this was free! Not worth it!
Yeah, nope. I would have flat out told her to shut up. That I need some time to focus and her constant drama is not helping.
But then I'm a brutally honest kind of person.
It's called communication. He cnat just hide in a corner. He should tell her he needs a moment. Mental health is more important huh? Then why dont you think about her mental health from being anxious as well. Her responses were just as much from anxiety and nervousness from the situation yet you care about him and villanize her. her biases are gross. Stop saying you care about mental health if it doesnt apply to everyone. Not everyone with anxiety manifests it by shakiness. Read a damn book.
@@wnterbird2976 well her communication skills suck. I would have dropped that bitch fast and said, "NEXT!"
@@wnterbird2976 He really did say it..a couple of times. She just didn't care. And she didn't seem very anxious to me the way she was attacking him. Pretty sure I also stated that she didn't have to settle on a tattoo she didn't want. So before you open your mouth to tell me to read a book.... how about you learn some comprehension skills. Don't come on here and attack me because you sit behind a computer screen where you can't be touched. Get a dam life!
@@wnterbird2976 Anxious over a free tattoo looool
I agree with danger 110%!
Any tattoo artist would refuse customers like that! That's a widely known fact. They aren't psychologists or doctors that should be able to calm and talk people in to do what they need to do! Tattoos are luxury services and the Tattoos Tattoo artists have the right to say no, not doing this.
Exactly! You could tell she wasn’t there for the artist/competition… she was there trying to get a free tatt that she wanted whether it costed him the competition or not.
i felt bad for Danger he was shaking cuz of stressed and she was all over him asking him if he's nervous like if that was going to make the situation better
danger was the dude
Anybody in any profession would refuse to service a hole people like that
I love that the other artists are agreeing with her, when they obviously are just trying to get him to leave.
The James Danger one was really hard to watch. She did everything possible to upset him and he couldn’t say anything to appease her at that point. He is right to not have to tattoo himself. It’s his body and he has to live with it too! So honestly the situation was really unjust in this case. If I were him I would have taken a banana or pig skin or something used in the world of practicing tattoos and done something…. But even so that might not have been enough.
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That was the episode that made me stop watching and being a fan.
I dunno, he does have those crazy eyes that would make me not want to trust him either. He also told her to calm down, which is a no no
@@joshuaadammagic54 She was being a dick/confrontational from the start. That wears on people over time and gets them nervous. Its a common reaction to get shakey when your nerves are shot.
@@zernadarkwolf nope only pussy shake a grown ass man has no business shaking, especially a dude his size because of a girl so skinny like her
They did Danger really dirty. They brought in a canvas that didnt even want a tattoo that would show off what the judges asked for. She was immediately combative and uncooperative. She had very very vague and non descript alterations without the capacity to convey them. She kept throwing the responsibility of denying the tattoo in his face instead of saying herself she wasnt going through with it.
He got shafted
I feel awful for James Danger. That girl was coming in there to fight him. She didn’t like HIM. It wasn’t about the hand shaking or the complicated design. She couldn’t understand that she could have a negative effect on a person. She was literally giving him a panic attack. He deserves better. He had an option to tattoo himself and he had every right to say no, I don’t want this on my body. Poor guy
@Nonaya Bidness She should have just walked about when they said the challenge was texture. Or if she wanted a free tattoo from a competition don’t have specific ideas in mind because you probably aren’t gonna get them.
@Nonaya Bidness I was saying I agreed with you on the part about her conflict with the competition but she should have just sucked it up because she knew she was going into a competition for a free tattoo. She isn’t a client in this case. She’s part of a competition. If she knew she wanted something specific, she should haven’t have signed up and then stormed off.
She also wanted minimal design, then complained that there needed to be more design. I was frustrated alone by just hearing that.
Every time I watch this makes me sick and I feel sorry for any man that ends up with her
@Nonaya Bidness Wish I could read what you said, I guess RUclips doesn't like you.
You got hit with the shadow ban hammer.
the fact that natalie was being interviewed when she’s just a canvas, means the show was doing all this shit on purpose
They were drooling with ecstasy at the whole situation.
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They cost Danger his place on inkmaster. It has nothing to do with skill, and I have no clue why they couldn't give him a different canvas. That was extremely unfair
She’s a clown who did this on purpose.
I say this all the time! A lot of these confrontations between the canvas and the artist I feel, are staged. If you watch their body language you can tell the combativeness is out of their normal character.
I couldn't be the only person who lost it when the judge brought up to James that the competition was for $100,000. As if that is life-changing money just to put a tattoo on himself that he knows he would regret.
Right? Like if it's a million then maybe, 100,000 maybe will build him a new shop and stuff but that's about it.
And it isn't even guaranteed that he'd get that money anyways! So he would've put a tattoo on himself (that he didn't even want) and then would've possibly gone home soon after anyways. 😒
For real. I doubt that fucken judge would’ve tattooed himself in that situation. Stupid hippo
@@wolfgangpaco6690 Oh, absolutely no way he would've done it! Complete bullshit
Principles are priceless
I deal with customers like Natalie all the time. Danger wasn’t in the wrong at all.
You dont kick them out of the shop for being so complex?
@@ChrisJProductionzyes you do if it’s your shop.
I feel like they really should have back up canvases so people who get screwed over by bad clients have a fair chance
Did you not watch the first one?
@@grenade.turtle Did you not watch the others where there weren't backups?
@@grenade.turtle the majority of the time artists are just expected to tattoo themselves to stay in the competition, or the judges will judge an unfinished tattoo
I think they purposely add that unfairness to the show to create more drama. So many wonderful artists got screwed by a horrible canvas
Wouldn’t be very interesting to watch then would it
The judges were 100% wrong in Dangers situation and it shows they care more about ratings than they so about tattooing.
I agree, that girl was annoying psycho who just wanted to be on TV.
And I must add, that Dave defended James when they were deliberating about the situation. He said, that he doesn't think James should go home over this, because she provoked him and put him in that situation. And I agree, her fault completely.
There have been times where they got a replacement canvas. No clue why they didn't do that for him.
Ohh they definitely black balled that dude from the jump. She was told to be difficult you could tell it was all forced
It’s a “reality” television show, so yes!
These people are unreal, you want a free tattoo from one of the best artists in the country, and you wanna dictate every level of it too, if you want control of the tattoo, pay for it.
I couldn't have said it better myself.. it's crazy how some people are cool with litarally anything the artist wants to some asshole who wants the dumbest/unreal tattoo that should be thousands of dollars and five sessions in 6 hours.. I feel like the producers pick the people with the worst ideas for the show just for ratings
Exactly, and it's not like they're going on blind. When they agree to be a canvas the challenge is given to them beforehand, that way if its a technical challenges to do a portrait for instance they have time to choose said portrait. It's super unfair to go in thinking they can dictate a free tattoo that could cost somebody the competition.
Unless it’s bone master, then peace love and pixie dust I’ll willingly walk out
Naw they are not the best in the country.. how many seasons of this show with how many contestants? Now the free tattoo part is like you get what you get lol
I mean understand both side, on one hand the tattoo is free so if you give them a concept and they go off that then cool, but on the other hand Duffy once said that it is easy to have an opinion on something we don't have to wear. The worst part is you can see on most canvases that the right away know they walking out and they continue to stay yo waste the artist time.
Cleen-“I’ll tattoo any style anywhere anytime “
Also cleen -“I don’t do comic book characters I’m not a nerd “
Yeah, if he got any new customers from this show, I'll be shocked. Also clean: "First time tattoo folks are whiny little bitches" ...and he actually said, "I don't do this crap, I'm not a nerd" ...What an ass.
Despite him getting eliminated I think the guy with the Phoenix tattoo absolutely did the right thing. His chances of winning the whole competition with 2 years experience was slim to none, and I agree that he shouldn’t have had to tattoo himself with something he doesn’t want/doesn’t like and will be a constant reminder of a terrible time. I agree with not doing the tattoo too and telling her “I’m not the right artist for you” because if she was like that before he started…she was going to fight him every second through the tattoo and ultimately it probably would not have been done well because of her attitude and difficulty and he would be sent home regardless.
he was smart and respectful enough to not waste her time or his.
Exactly, if SHE wasn't comfortable with the tattoo, why should he be so quick to ink it onto himself?!
If he wasnt willing to get that tattoo then why should his canvas?
@@KD-qp3gc that logic makes no sense. People have different tastes & styles. Just because that’s something his client wanted doesn’t mean it’s going to be something he wants 😂
@@JaelWasFramed He didn't have to do THAT tattoo. That was the point the judges were making - with himself as the canvas, he could have done literally anything he wanted. Now, I'm not saying he should have to put permanent ink on his body if he doesn't want to, just that he didn't have to do THAT design.
Shaking is what happens when someone is holding back a lot of angry energy. He did everything right. I'd have legit told her to leave the second she got combative.
I get shaky if I'm very anxious or angry for me to have it stop is a minute or two by myself for a bit if that girl had just left him alone for at least 5 minutes the shaking would have stopped she just had to leave him alone and stop nitpicking everything non stop
Anxiety.
Tbh I would have too. Either that or I would tell her to come back the next day when I am less stressed.
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Exactly he was getting harangued which would make it worse for him (a physiological response) and still was sooo calm with that harpie !
Natalie saw how anxious he was and used that as a tool to bully him. We witnessed him being backed into a corner. A tattoo artist isn’t there to baby or comfort their client. They work with them and will aim to give the client what they want (within their skill set). In this competition they expected him to cater to her. HOWEVER, being emotionally abused wouldn’t fly in a real shop. Any artist would stick their foot up your ass before they stand to be disrespected.
Ya she’s clearly never had actual anxiety problems before because all she was doing was aggravating him further. If she’s nervous about his hand shaking a bit maybe she should try SHUTTING UP to see if that helps. I can see with how far he was being pushed that he actually handled better than most people could, especially being on tv with 100K on the line.
Exactly
@@jacksonrelaxin3425Bro she wasn’t bullying him, she was asking hey are you good? If you’re tattoo artist was that shaken you would also be concerned.
@@tracymartel10 cherry picker lol
@@okthen4912 Girl, you clearly don’t know what that word means lmaoooo
15:49 him throwing the drawing like an upset child, proves her point 💯% in my eyes!
Rule #1... If you dont get along with your artist, then don't get tattooed by them.
Having good chemistry is very important.
Danger did nothing wrong there.
Exactly. Also I think when the judges say you need to know how to get along with your clients. Yeah maybe on the show. In real life any respectable artist would have told Danger’s canvas to get the hell out of their shop if she pulled that BS.
Yeah she really had a serious attitude. If she didn't like the tattoo she could have gone a whole other route than be rude and condescending for no reason. Like it's not hard to disagree with someone and be cordial about it.
By that logic she did nothing wrong too. He was unwilling to compromise on design and made her feel nervous for something that he was going to put on her body permanently
Fine by Me! : )
Never have I ever get tattoo in my body before. : )
@@toddpacker867 he WAS willing to compromise. She was the one who was so demanding for a free tattoo. She kept pushing instead of giving him a few minutes to relax.
"Your hand is shaking," Well, yeah, he's in a high-pressure competition with a time limit that has already started, and she still wants changes. So she wants a master-level "simple" tattoo for free--and, SHE AGREED TO THE TERMS OF THE CHALLENGE BUT NOW WANTS TO CHANGE THEM.
I feel really bad for the artist with the bleeding rainbow eye tattoo. They were told they could do whatever they wanted, and because her canvas wasted her time she didn't get to finish her tattoo. She should have had her time restart
I don't, she could've simply adapted to the first canvas rather than being stubborn and stuck on one design. Shows what a weak artist they are if they can't handle any adversity
@@johnbishop7572 as a artist you have to work with the client , its 50/50 if one half isnt happy with it its gonna fall apart
Theyre all given the same amount of time to do their tattoos. Clock starts when the needle touches the skin. Past contestants have discussed this in interviews.
@@johnbishop7572 ....Just like how he couldn't handle and adversity and wouldn't let her adhere to challenge? Maybe he was too stupid to explain to his son what a skull is, I mean he couldn't even give examples of what he would've wanted. Shut up.
They were told they could do whatever they wanted, BUT the person getting the tattoo didn't tell her that. I don't feel like the "canvas" wasted her time.
Are you willing to walk into a tattoo shop, and be forced to get a specific tattoo, because that's what they feel like doing that day?
Danger was right. She was honestly difficult at the start. Then she kept escalating it. If she'd just given him one minute to catch his breath then this could've been done.
15:46 the fact he did that shows how right the client was about him
Showed his true colors.
How?
@@falseprophet1024 his ego was hurt and he wanted to throw a tantrum. Throwing his book away, then saying 'I want to flip a couch over'? That is incredibly unprofessional behaviour, and a red flag in anyone.
@@GrandisSilva Exactly, I would not have wanted that man to touch me. Sis listened to her instincts, good on her.
Y’all sound slow as hell💀
Respect for James for staying calm during her provocation and for not putting a tattoo on his body that he did not want there and 'let her affect the rest of my life'. I really liked how he worded it. And he confronted the judges and explained his side. He refused to bend down for money. RESPECT
The back up canvas for Jason was literally an angel. Guy just walked in ready to get a permanent tattoo on his body just to help someone who *might* win a competition for themselves
He ended up winning off that too so the guy was more valuable than he could ever imagine
He was also gorgeous ❤
Feel sorry for James. Would of loved to see ANY of these tattoo artists try to deal with a client like Natalie. Not only was she being overly aggressive and combative with him, but she's also a gaslighter. Also, if you see someone's hand is shaking due to nervousness(which, btw, who would notice but someone looking for confrontation like her) hmm idk, maybe DON'T escalate things further. And these judges are just... Big Corpo personified. Basically want you to demean yourself and your worth for a slimeball who's not even paying anything. WHICH IS WORSE lol
How could you not notice those shakes come on it looked like he had Parkinson’s jesus
Omg I was just thinking the same thing about them being corporate personalities, reminds me of the fast food industry...
@@pincksugar That's exactly what it reminded me of. That "the customer is always right" mentality. Which people think is a go ahead to treat people like garbage.
@@soburnt17 I personally didn't think it was that bad, but either way, you see buddy shaking why not try to de escalate the situation? James was trying but she most def was not. I work in customer service and I see people like this all the time. They just wanna agitate you into making a mistake that they can profit off of or just until they get what they want. Like a child. Natalie is a legit child. No excuse for her behaviour.
He actually handled it very well. I think if i am the guys who is going to tattoo her i will be livid. And the other artist who said otherwise should be in his position before they speak.
Danger i'm totally with you man. That whole segment i was shaking my head totally on your side. You did the right thing.
I knew there was gonna be an issue as soon as Danger's canvas said, 'you were yelling at me yesterday.' He absolutely was not. He was anxious, I think she was secretly too anxious to be there, too, and her nervousness rubbed Danger the wrong way. Or she was paid by the runners to be a pain. Either way.
ETA: Danger did nothing wrong, just to be clear. He handled it as well as he could and, yeah, professional artists can turn people away. Especially if they're so talented that their books are probably filled a year in advance.
She went straight in there hostile.
@@Yue_Jin Then CONTINUED picking at him. Watching that annoyed me
I mean acted like a little bitch boy in a high pressure situation, he obviously wasn't going to be Ink master.
Estimated time of arrival? lol but I agree.
He messed up when he said "It needs to have texture or there's no point in me doing the tattoo.". He should have had a softer approach to try to understand what it is she actually wanted. He definitely seemed to have his own ideas of what he wanted to do. He could have been more willing to work with her and been a bit less defensive.
Ps. I'm not saying she handled the situation well.
Honestly, I'd refuse to work with a difficult canvas, like Natalie. She just wanted to be a pain in the ass. It goes the same way with an artist who has that kind of bad attitude.
When you say "an artist who has that kind of bad attitude." I assume you mean the attitude Natalie has anf not the tattooer who had to deal with her?
100%. In any shop, she would've been asked to leave. She clearly started trying to cause stress to him from the beginning.
She wanted her fame time bcuz a phoenix is not a simple design and the simple one was ugly and cartoonish
she literally wanted to argue
@@kessamariee I agree!
Natalie was the absolute worst! She didn't stop pushing his buttons right from the start. She completely gaslighted him!
Agreed. She was acting like a bitch.
She was an unrelenting unreasonable bitch. I betcha if anyone else had a client like that they would’ve said ‘get out of my shop, and have a nice day.’
No he sucked I hated him that entire season
@@toadskinsdoesn’t take away from the fact that she was a pain in the ass to deal with
I absolutely HATE how NO ONE empathised with him. She was a pain and she saw how her attitude was affecting him but she kept pushing him further
Yep, especially given Jason Clay Dunn's own reaction when canvases left him -- and he got replacements! Josh also comes off as a bit of a hypocrite when you know that, when the shoe was on his foot, he was none too pleased with the way his canvas spoke to him.
That client with the phoenix tattoo was aggressive, completely unreasonable, and intentionally confrontational. I hope she got what she wanted out of that 15 seconds of fame, because all of that was entirely too much. That tattoo artist did the right thing and just let her walk. And that one judge wanted the guy to permanently deface a part of his body for the sake of a stupid competition? Nah fam, that guy got done dirty. He was as calm and composed as anyone could be in that situation, and I'd love to have seen some of the other artists deal with a person who was that willfully aggravating.
Exactly. And I totally agree with him not putting it on his thigh.
It pisses me off nobody defending James those judges are so bias and they make me sick I’ve heard real artists decline being on the show because these crappy judges and I totally get it
5:15 The girl just seemed like she wanted more tv time with how she was trying to argue again and having all those demands. ON A FREE TATTOO!!
On her body!!!!
@@dhruvigadhia1297 jer on her body but if I was so picky I would go to a tattoo artist and pay him. This was a competition and there are a lot of people who volunteere to be a canvas. People who volunteer for it know that they not always get what they want.
@@dhruvigadhia1297 that she offered up to get tattooed
@@borni8925 yeah when she didn’t like the sketch, she left. Nothing wrong in that
@@dhruvigadhia1297 I find a lot of wrong with that. First of all if you go to a tattoo artist and you don't like the sketch you still have to pay for it.
Second the sketch was not that big of a problem, her problem was that she didn't trust the artist and expected special treatment. What is reasonable if you pay for a tattoo but this was a competition. The tattoo artist has no obligation to you that should be very clear. If you sign up for a free tattoo it should be clear to everyone that it is possible to get something that you don't like. Not every canvas gets tattooed by the next ink master so you should be aware that you don't always get what you want.
If you don't want the risk of a bad tattoo, don't volunteer for it.
After all beggars can't be choosers.
The amount of pressure they put on Danger for not tattooing himself is ridiculous. If that was a client you'd say they have a right to refuse a tattoo they don't like. That'll stay on you forever.
I’m pissed that no one stood up for James. That canvas was a nightmare.
True but he should of tattooed himself though
Cleen's a good example of how to work with clients, he looks like a meat head gym bro, but when talking to the nervous girl, he's like "A Calf on your calf, so cute girl" and gives her a high five. Don just looks at people with a blank stare
Ikr, I loved the tattoo, but also wouldn't have gotten it because Don isn't great at building at least a little bit of rapport with the client and I'd feel really anxious about him tattooing me :x
Agree with both. He gave me arrogant vibes and I wouldn’t be comfortable either. If it was Cleen tattooing that would have been a different story
I love Cleen. He has this super approachable, amicable vibe and doesn't judge what the canvases want. That Don guy tho gave me MAJOR red flags. Just the way he is so expressionless and flips the note at the end, lmao serial killer vibes
I love Cleen.
I'm real surprised at everyones take with Cleen, he rubbed me the wrong way with his arrogans and especially the negativity toward his fellow tattoo artist that he was supposed to help mind you. He seemed to just want to steamroll the entire situation and take over completely, but wasn't allowed.
Of course I realise I could be misreading him or the situation or whatever, just putting my two cents out there.
That second woman was INSUFERRABLE. She was clearly projecting all her insecurities and her last-minute regret onto Danger. She should have just walked out if she didn’t want to get tattooed anymore.
100% agree with James Danger. That canvas was picking fights and purposely escalating the situation. I also would have told her to go away.
Same with me. Competition or not I think he did the right thing by saying he wasn't the one for her. I've had artists tell me that and I wasn't mad about it.
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hell yeah she was doing it on purpose. they even interviewed her which i dont think has ever happened on the show before. she did it all for her spot on tv
For real , I was an artist for 24 years and I've had shit clients that didn't even deserve a tattoo , I never miss a client's bad attitude
That girl with Danger was terrible. If she went to an actual shop and acted that way they would have kicked her out of the shop and possibly blacklisted her to every other shop to. Danger never yelled at her. She just kept picking at him and picking at him. He was completely respectful to her. She was the problem. I feel sorry for anyone who is in her family or any man she gets with. She is the ultimate definition of b****.
So... Just because a few contestants tattooed themselves, the judges now expect contestants to just tattoo themselves whenever a canvas walks out?
Jason arguing with his client about the geisha really ticked me off. The challenge was for a Japanese pinup girl, not specifically a geisha. The canvas said he was ok with anything Japanese but he didn’t want a geisha. Jason could have done a shrine maiden, a kitsune or a yukihime. Heck, he could have done an anime style girl.
He’s the same guy who said that artist needs to get along with their clients and he said it to James 💀💀💀
He was panicking very early on. In a situation like that, the best thing to do is walk away/disengage and come back with a clear mind, at least, for me. Then again, Danger tried to do that, and the lady literally stood over him asking dumb questions. 😭😭😑😑
He suppose to be blank canvas which mean that the person will allow the tattooist to design whatever they want.
@@bmerritt2433 I have a cousin like that lady. They are a funny personality type. Hyper combative until they receive any sort of resistance. And my personality is hyper combative and ENJOYS combative people. So let's just say our family get-togethers had a lot of her crying and sobbing and a very confused me. She married this super chill guy that can blow smoke up her ass with charm and ease. If this crazy woman is anything like my cousin, she's got a lot of really good qualities....but that one combo makes them appear ugly and pathetic.
@@ambertheartist i normally agree that the canvases should know what they’re signing up for but i’m mostly surprised that he specializes in japanese but somehow he couldn’t be flexible with not doing a geisha? like op said a shrine maiden or a kitsune would’ve been perfectly fine too
I seriously feel for Danger, man. He’s a genuine, nice guy who just got a hard lady to deal with, and nobody defended him or helped him.
They just kept roasting him and downright calling him awful, but he literally remained calm and respectful even though he was increasingly frustrated w her. She literally came out the gate on the second day, claiming he YELLED at her and he did not. Maybe they just edited the show differently because I did not see all this ugly behavior they were accusing him of.
The show encouraged the participants being nasty to each other. They want drama and conflict is drama. If they focused more on the art side of the show it would still be interesting to watch but American reality TV is big on planted conflicts.
Funny how jason had a client walk out on him also not wanting the tattoo in which he told Danger that he should never have a client walk off lol. Small world
Anthony is THE BEST - volunteering his skin to be tattooed when the canvas walked out!!
I wad so happy when he 1st won. He's amazing. I think he even tattooed himself when a canvas walked out on him (may have been someone else though)
He’s such a good guy and is so handsome he’s almost beautiful
i just want to say cleen has always rubbed me the RIGHT way. he’s always come off as just confident enough, he hasn’t been a bad sport on the show, when he coached he did great, and wasn’t trying to be a sick to the other team, like christian did at times.
he gives me good vibes
Right?? Same
Yes his attitude is so good with all his clients, he's always so happy and excited to help them out and just give them what they want
Same here! I’d love to get a tattoo by Cleen
I actually visited Cleen’s shop in Vegas a few months ago. Obviously I couldn’t get any work done because they had to book months in advance, but he had some down time and spoke with us for a while. He’s probably the nicest and realest dude this show has ever had
Literally he seems like such a genuine guy
I didn’t think I could have more respect for Anthony than I already did, and then he went and volunteered to replace a tough canvas. He’s definitely my favorite Ink Master
But why didn’t he do that for danger (the dude with the Phoenix tattoo)
@@boycealexander80 because he wasn’t on the show at the time
@@artisticalex1206 damn ratio
@@dolphpaperroute6362God ur annoying
Dave defending Danger was awesome. He did the same thing in the episode before that when Mystical Mike started trashing Ally’s tattoo. Love him so much ❤
Where did he defend him
@@ThomasMees later in the episode while the judges were trying to decide whether to eliminate James
I think Danger was screwed over. To me everyone else was way over harsh with him. That girl was unbearable
They literally ganged up on him ! That's how you know he was a threat !
I agree. He did almost what any artist would do if they felt like something wasn't their style like when he said he wasn't the right artist for her.
7:45 How ridiculous that his buddies didn’t back him up. She was out of control and he couldn’t win working with her
Exactly!! His canvas was being super unreasonable and was just adding even more intense emotion to the situation. The poor guy was doing the best he could've. I honestly think he handled the situation pretty well- trying to reason with someone like that is damn near impossible.
Those 2 have been in a lot of confrontation on the show and it's kinda funny when they call him the asshole, while they were hated in the episodes they've been on
I’ve noticed how James never attacked her either. He told her how she was making him feeling but never said anything negative or demeaning and kept incredibly calm.
I admire tattoos, but doubt that I would ever get one. But if I did I’d probably have a general idea and let the tattoo artist take it from their. Tattooists know what they’re doing for the most part so I’m not going to criticize anything they do.
Jason saying “I dont want a dickhead to tattoo me” is so fuckin ironic 💀
Not telling the returning canvas that they are going to be tattooed by the same artist that messed up their first piece is going to cause anxiety and tension! No wonder they didn’t want to go through with the tattoo!
Yeah, I felt so bad for her. I actually really liked the new design but I would say no to it as well.
Yeah I agree, but I feel like if they drew a full calf in an old story book style she would have done it tho the final design was well done but not cute
I have a hard time believing the canvas wasnt told. Idk it just always feels, at least, partly scripted to me.
honestly though the guy really didn't do himself any favours. His attitude was just really poor. I mean when she first saw him and (understandably) expressed initial doubt and he replied with "then why are we standing here"... like dude seriously? I'm not sure whether he just has really bad social skills or whether he's just a bit of a douche.
@@Jackson-pu7gd And then he was so disrespectful at the end after she left! She was honest but polite, and clearly uncomfortable. And if he's going to start feeling violent (throwing the book, saying he wanted to tip a couch over) then she was right to be uncomfortable! He's a big guy, she's small, and he gets physical when he gets his ego bruised. He was really unprofessional. The ego should be put away and you focus on the job.
Gotta feel for that first lady though, she literally COULDNT tattoo someone for the first 30 minutes because her canvas backed out after seeing EVERY idea she had.
Ikr she was so kind
I mean what she lacked was creativity tbh, like the design she made was ugly to begin with, and the execution wasn’t all that, tattoo masters should be able to adapt
That guy really pissed me off. If the challenge is open to the artist and they get creative freedom, that means all the canvases will have agreed to be open. You can't agree to be open to anything, then shoot down every idea you're presented with.
Honestly I feel that the lady with the pig pinup acted so kindly to Don. Him and Cleen pretending that she was ridiculous for leaving when really I wouldn't have trusted him a second time either... she was nice to him the whole time, just didn't want another tattoo from him.
I don’t blame her either. I think she wanted him to get redemption by showing his drawing to the world but couldn’t personally commit to that on her body for fear from her last experience.
They should have had Cleen tattoo her
The tattoo the designed looked way more dark in vibe than the other ink she has too, if she wasn't confident in the design or liked it why should she put her skin out there again, this isn't even a competition for money!
Her whole "i feel uncomfortable" bullshit was too much. She tried to reflect a bad tattoo on the dudes character and made it seem like she was too afraid to be around him as if he was a pedo or some shit.
@@scragglebum no, his whole vibe was so off. Like, he barely apologizes and only wants to do the tattoo to show that he's better, not because he's sorry. I wouldn't be able to trust someone after they kept on being like "no, it will be fine" when it did not turn out fine
I can't believe everyone tries to Gaslight Danger into thinking that Natalie was a rational customer or that he has to permanently tattoo himself something he hates.
If his work on the flash challenge was as bad as the judges say then why do they expect him to tattoo himself for the small chance of winning which is basically 0
I definitely understand the girl who didn’t want to get tattooed by Don, especially bc of how he acted when she left. She could tell something was off and she was right
But tbh his design was on point! I understand she was not feeling comfortable, but like girl - u signed to get a free tattoo, u didn't like but it's not like u were paying for that or giving anything except your body. If you're going to nitpick designs just go to the artist you like and pay for that like a normal human being and not sign up for a competition tattoo. In addition to that, I think that his behaviour was off because he was stressed as hell and scared, maybe even disappointed in himself and his previous design. He wanted redemption and a possibility to prove himself once again in being an artist but this opportunity was destroyed before he even started. As a tattoo artist myself, I would also be sad and angry and hurt that I lost this kind of chance, so I don't think it's okay to shame him for his stern attitude. Not a problem that she refused but also not a problem that he was feeling human emotions.
@@xxTheHinata8xx they didn't tell her that the tattoo artist was the one that messed up her last tattoo , she didn't sign up for that, and throughout the talking process he just kept doing blank stares. She being uncomfortable was completely justified and wanting not to have it by him is too.
@@someonefartedwhilereadingt9917 Absolutely this. Having your body violated by terrible art - no matter whether or not it's free - is a traumatizing experience, and springing that trauma on her again in a situation where she's already nervous is honestly cruel. They both deserved better than how this show handled that situation.
I feel bad for him. It is one thing to judge the art. She was just mean for justifiable reasons and his reaction was not surprising to me. It is one thing to screw up but not to get any sort of way to say sorry for it sucks even more so if they hate you as a person. It is a terrible feeling, probably, and this is coming from someone that does not get that level of hate from people.
@@Shastasnow But did he actually say "sorry"? Did he actually seem apologetic to you? The client seemed to be fishing for an apology, but he could only talk about his feelings, not openly considering hers. To be fair, many people in the real world are like this.
Gotta be honest, I actually agree with James. He handled the client fairly well.
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“I don’t tattoo problem clients” 💯 YEAH NEITHER WOULD I.
Ngl Mike’s client also pissed me off when he did that “No no no nooooo”
My dad said he would have slapped him, lol!
I just watched the season with James Danger and that client was literally the worst! There was no reason he should’ve gotten eliminated for that. And of course no one came to his defense. Terrible judgment by the “judges”. In the real world, any respectable tattoo artist would literally tell them to leave and find another artist to work with them. The artist has to be just as calm as the client.
I just got a tattoo yesterday and a artist literally did just that because the person kept asking him to change things and he did 3 different drawings so he told the dude to find another artist because he wasn't doing anymore for him
T.V. shows are a form of manipulation behind the scenes. If one of them talked back and questions the judgements of the judges, it would be taken note and they'll probably be cut from the show
Yeah I agree. Tbh I think he tried his best with his client but she kept stressing him out. And I don't blame him.
Yea I agree with you but it’s a competition so you gotta work with the client
My mouth was literally wide open. When the last guy said he was okay with black and grey, then it cuts to the next scene where he said he isn’t okay with it and he never said it. Wow he really was trying to embarrass that tattoo guy. Wow I was shocked how he lied.
I guess I understood the situation wrong. I thought he didn’t mind some black and grey for slight details, but that he still wanted a colored tattoo 🤔 ? And then he showed him an all black and grey(blue) tattoo. Correct me if I’m worng
That guy was the worst, imo
I got both sides. He mentioned not minding some black and grey but there was some miscommunication and he may not have realized Mike meant complete black and grey. And Mike wasn’t aggressive or anything. But the way the client acted with the “Nuh nuh nuh no” came off so immature.
That guy was an absolute asshole. Pathetic behaviour.
@@ChelzLovesPeanutright? Why not just clarify what he was thinking, instead of being a condescending fool...
Dave was the only one who understood James Danger. I think he was totally in the right and I don't see why Chris had to get sexist about it. James was crouching because his computer was down there and he was TRYING to calm down but the canvas wouldn't let him. She makes me so angry tbh. If someone came to me and looked through my portfolio and said "nothing like that is going on my body!" I would tell them I'm not the artist for them too. And he didn't 86 her out of nowhere like she said, she said "just say it and I'll leave". I think she just wanted to be on TV she should not have gone on the show. She totally backed him into a corner and harassed him into snapping and it pisses me off that nobody had his back.
If he cant fucking tattoo a new style he wasnt gonna win anyway. If all he can do is repeat the same bs over and over. Chris being sexist???? Of cousre you have more sympathy for the whyte man than the black woman getting her tattoo done. How dare black women be nervous. ANd how dare they have a say on what goes on their bodies huh? Nobody had his back bc he handled it horribly.
@@wnterbird2976 He did Tattoo a different style. He wanted to Go complex(Texture) because that was the Challenge and The Canvas wanted something plain and simple. That's where the problem started. She wanted 100% Say so on a competition Challenge and if she would of gotten her way not only would she be happy but James would of gotten eliminated for not following the rules. She Berated him and Totally acted like a Child the Whole time while he was trying to calm himself down. Weirdly enough Some people get new Canvases to work on while Others don't.
@@wnterbird2976 he had to show different textures from what i understood but she wanted simple that don't mix.
@@mtgUK2015 I honestly think it was a miscommunication on her part. She saw his portfolio, consistent of bright, striking colors and clearly defined bold edges, and wasn't ready for that. To me, she seemed like a pastel, watercolor kind of girl. And instead of properly communicating that she'd prefer color realism or something flowy, she said she wanted something simple. Which he then understandably took quite harshly, because simple and texture rarely mix. And by that time she'd made up her mind that he wasn't going to deliver on what she wanted anyways and started blocking herself off and freaking herself out, which in turn freaked him out. He couldn't have done anything to get her to agree to his design.
@@wnterbird2976 LOL, you just can’t hide your hatred for beautiful white men. She called Chris sexist, that’s a negative judgement, but you hate white peoples so much; I’d say blinded by it, that you think she was supporting him… that or you can’t read, which as a blq wymin, makes equal sense and both are probably true. A mix tape of ignorance.
Danger handled the situation incredibly well. He stayed calm, and communicated his feelings so that he could get the best outcome for both himself, and the canvas. Sometimes you just can't win.
They need to make these "Master Canvases" sign a waiver or something, they can't just say they are open to ANY kind of tattoo and then turn around and be like "but not that one lol"
Ya that’s a realistic document/contract in the untied states…. LOL
It is part of the contract. I looked into being a canvas, and it is one of the things you need to sign. I think all that happens if you break it, is no tattoo. It's been a good number of years and I'm going off memory
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Maybe not, but it IS a realistic contract in the United States.
You woulda thought that the show would have a group of local backup canvases for these moments but drama always wins over artistry in Ink Master .
Mad respect for Anthony for jumping in after the client walked to get a tattoo he didn't necessarily want, but was willing to get it to help his team
honestly, he was a really good coach and just a good person in general
That's the mentality that's the difference between winning and leading, and between having trivial self centered attitudes and letting defeat rule you. You'll work as a service to others and make personal sacrifices for the betterment of the group and don't have a shitty entitled civilian mentality.
6:34 that woman would have been immediately kicked out of my shop. What she’s doing is pushing for a fight and a tv moment in a show THATS NOT ABOUT HER!
Excuse me? It’s 100% about her. It’s her body. Once this show is over, it’s on HER body. He’s gonna forget about her and move on. SHE has to live with this.
@ if you think that excuses that attitude and the fact she came in there to get into an argument for tv clout then you definitely have some brain rot going on
I feel so bad for Danger. He looked like he was going to lose it and he still was able to try and calm himself. He deserved so much better.
Same here
James is completely correct. Sometimes you have to let clients walk for their’s and your’s best interest.
The second woman is infuriating. She was 100% of the issues with that tattoo. I like painting and drawing because it cant verbally attack me into being unable to do art
Also that guest judge for some reason pissed me off the 100000 dollars for a stupid new school phoenix and a memory of that crazy bitch on his leg
Danger deserves a redemption more than anyone, in my opinion. Not with that girl. But someone. He was berated by an impossible client. If you've ever lived with or dealt with a girl like that. You know no matter what he said she was still going to say no. She wanted to cause trouble.
All the other artists were judging James but Natalie kept going at him. I feel he did the right thing, everyone expects these artists to degrade themselves and suck up to people who are putting them down. Artists have the right to refuse a customer that is disrespecting them.
I remember when my Aunt and Father watched this show a lot. They ended up hating it because it became less about the challenges and more about drama.
I agree: I watch for the art and have to "sit through" all the drama.
Tatoos are great by themselves, more art - less bullshit, plze!
It remains reality TV. Even their outfits are scripted. I remember seeing something with Clean post Ink master and he said something along the line of "I can finally wear sleeves".
honestly, i don’t blame the girl who felt very uncomfortable about getting tattooed from don. the blank stares was more than enough to make her feel very uneasy and even the way he reacted after she left, you can tell he was holding back his bubbling anger. if it was only cleen, she definitely would’ve gotten the tattoo done by him because the design was pretty cute ngl.
hopefully she got a better tattoo that covered up the nasty one though
he was looking at her kinda weird at one point
Yeah I’m sure he would look at her crazy she kept trying to argue with him like a weirdo I can tell she’s one of those problem people
@@Dro_Nem from what was shown, I honestly don't blame her for not wanting to trust him again. If someone tattooed that on me, I'd be very wary to give them a second chance and, yeah, I'd be uncomfortable in a room with them. Now, there was probably more than that, I haven't watch either episode she's in, but from the clips shown, I wouldn't say she was unreasonable, especially considering how against help Don was after he'd already messed up a piece on this girl...
fr. he stared at her as if he was dissociating from reality. she really seemed sweet and that design was adorable sigh
Shoot I would have atleast asked if clean can do it
I find it funny that Jason Clay Dunn is calling someone else an asshole when he’s about the biggest one.
That calf tattoo was actually bad ass. That would have looked amazing if he could have pulled it off. I loved it
Yes it was actually very cute !
Yeah it was very cute! But i totally understand why she didnt want to be tattooed by Don, he messed up her body and she has a right to push him away. Lowkey, i would have done the same
@@Chaotic_Observer yeah, that’s a big “IF “he could have pulled it off. Nice tattoo but not sure about the artist’s ability to pull it off
@@Phoenixhunter157yeah definitely
@@Chaotic_Observer Then she should have done that in the beginning instead of wasting everyone's time. Don said it best , "then why are we here"
6:56 honestly in this situation Danger did a great job handling it. If he struggles with keeping calm separating himself from the conflict for a second is a good action to take, of course it was absolutely perfect but it's far better from other conflicts I've seen. He softened his tone, tried to communicate, put the past behind him, etc...
The world needs Anthony cloned a few hundred thousand times. He is a stand-up kind of guy and has a huge heart and integrity. He is my all-time favorite person on this show. I have no tattoos but if I were to get something it would be by Kelly or Anthony Michaels.
Man my thoughts exactly, wouldn’t mind Sausage or cleen either tbh but I don’t have the skin for that much color
His Halloween tattoo on redemption is fuckin incredible. On top of being a stand-up dude he's an incredible artist
@@Udon_Noodle I agree part from the sausage one I don't like that guy
Anthony seems like one of the most genuine, nice dudes out there.
I really dislike the unfairness that often comes with these bad clients. The show should boot people who aren’t there to get the tattoo that these artists are assigned. I mean come on. Of course an artist will fail the challenge if they can’t complete it in time due to a client not liking the ideas, or a client not wanting the design the challenge calls for. And in the real world of tattooing, the artists boots clients like this. Also to add, the judges really sat there and said you have to charm them? They don’t have fucking time to charm these clients. This is a tattooing competition. Not a how well you can charm the client competition! Again. They shouldn’t allow people into this studio who aren’t willing to get the tattoo the people are assigned to do. Some people you can’t just “charm” into getting a life long commitment. Again it’s completely unfair. I mean come on. For exampleThe assignment is to tattoo a demon but the canvas is Christian. How are you going to charm them into getting a demon tattoo? Like the fuck?
The pick ppl for drama cause ppl eat it up
@@vinniecousinofvito6401 unfortunately...very much this.
It's not about being fair, it's about being dramatic.
@@vinniecousinofvito6401 true, but if you are going to add drama you have to at least still be fair to your artists. In all this Is an art competition. If they are going to throw in these bad Clients on purpose the show can’t just boot them for failing even though they essentially set them up to do so. It’s just- common.
@@vinniecousinofvito6401 I don’t eat it up, I felt anxious watching it. It makes me not want to watch more of the show. I just want to see people tattoo other people, good and bad. Not needless drama, I had enough of that from real life.
If there’s any justice in the world, James Danger is owed a serious apology from this show. Absolutely ridiculous that they did that to him.
James didn’t “handle his client wrong” the client handles James wrong.
when working with a client you don’t dismiss their critiques period. you work together and that artist didn’t want to work together with that client. it’s okay to deny clients for that reason but when you have to work with that client you don’t dismiss anything they tell you. it’s going on THEIR body.
@@Lifeonnmarz she literally volunteered for a free tat on a tv show. if you know you're gonna be that picky about designs, don't choose to go on a show where you can't control every single aspect!
plus she was a massive dick about it all. while he's trying to calm himself down she keeps poking and prodding at the situation and continuing to escalate, instead of just taking a 5 minute break and letting everyone recollect themselves. no productive criticism is gonna be made if everyone's pissed off
(also - artists can turn away clients. no artist needs to put up with this shit, they have the same right to refuse service as everyone else.)
@@Lifeonnmarz it's free, it's for a challenge and shes intentionally going against said challenge, and she's stressing him out while not respecting him as a person. She also signed up for exactly what they were doing, she didn't want to be a canvas, she wanted a free tattoo of her personal choosing.
@@Lifeonnmarz stupid comment
Danger did not deserve that at all. The way she kept berating him, accusing him, using his emotions against him, that just wasnt fair. Not to mention, when he asked to confirm what she did want, she basically said "no, figure it out then ill see if it right when youre done". He was working with her and she wouldn't cooperate at all.
I love how Anthony as a contestant tattooed himself with a rose, and now Anthony as a coach gets tattooed with another rose.
Anthony is awesome. Art, attitude, team work, he’s the man. Class act all around. Would 1000% get any tattoo from him and it would be an honor.
yes, he definitely deserved winning ink master !
Come to tucson AZ he here
The artists: *trying to tattoo in peace*
The canvas: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
I highkey feel bad for James. He wasn't in the wrong in that situation, and they're all treating him like he was.