As I said on Twitter, Diana feels like one of those movies you watch when you're drunk or high or (in my case) drinking cold medicine. I decided to watch it when I was very sick and it was very entertaining. It's very camp for sure and I think it's easier to turn your brain off when watching it live, like what Howard Ho said on his Twitter.
I'm a British, 17-year-old, hardcore DiFANa - to the point where the show follows me on Twitter - and this is hands down the best analysis I've seen on why I think this show works. It's just a joyful, joyful show and despite its flaws - of which there are technically many - has brought me so much happiness by "letting my brain switch off" for a few hours (15+ times). Could it be better? Yes. Do I want it to exist any other way? No. It's perfect for what it is and needs to be and frankly, I'm very very grateful for that. Thanks for such a great video! :)
16:50 I am WEEPING. Your reactions had me convulsing. What the actual HELL kind of way to open act 2 is that? You've convinced me, i have to watch this now!
The way I see it, Diana has something for every mood. Do you want to have a fun time? There's moments for that. Do you want to be genuinely moved? There's moments for that. Do you want spectacle and amazing costumes? Moments for that. Do you want a critique of existing power structures? Moments for that. Do you want something that you can just laugh at? Lots of moments for that. I love this show.
This was great! I loved your plot breakdown and having the gamut of opinions was really fun. Netflix isn't one of my always streaming services so I was very deliberate in what Netflix films I watched when I had it last month for Stranger Things. But after seeing everyone's reactions to Diana and the subsequent very fast Broadway closure, I knew it had to be one. Of the opinions featured, I'd say my reaction was closest to Sideways's. Watching Diana was . . an experience. Not one I care to repeat but I didn't outright hate it. It was just messy. What's also interesting for me is that I watched Spencer in June and had very mixed thoughts on it, mostly because it doesn't give the audience a crumb of context- not even the year the events are supposed to be happening. I think it makes for an interesting contrast with Diana the Musical. One spends two hours on a single weekend, one spends two hours on 17 YEARS (yes, there are musicals that can handle large spans of time deftly; Diana is not one of them). Or maybe my conclusion should be that it turns out I don't really care about the royal family that much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm in my late 20s and you're who I aspire to be like when I grow up! I don't wanna hate myself at 40 or hide my hobbies & interests, I wanna have fun! Wtf do adults with no hobbies even talk about? Tax breaks? No thanks.
I think everyone who watches diana will have their own favorite wtf lyric amongst the many wtf lyrics. Mine is "darling im holding our son so let me say jolly well done" so much to unpack. Why are you tell her, she's standing right in front of you? Jolly well done? What? Sometimes I have to pause the show for a moment and just ponder that fking lyric
The cameo at the end, loved it. It was great including everyone's opinions. Although there was disagreement, everyone had good reason for their positions.
Honestly, that 'Serves me right for marrying a scorpio' cracks me up every time. I don't know what it is about this musical, but I love it too. I used to pretend I mostly was in it for the costume changes, because I used to volunteer as a stage manager, so I can appreciate. But there's just something deliciously campy and fun about Diana: The Musical.
Hi, so happy to see a video from you. I never would've watch this on Netflix if you hadn't done this. To me it's a musical written for Rupaul's Drag Race with good actors.
The first time I watched it I was in shock, then I listened to the songs and watched it again and LOVED it! I think with a little reworking they could really have something!
This reminds me of my reaction to "Absolute Beginners," a British movie musical from the 1980s, based on a 1950s novel. I've only seen it once, but my attitude kept swinging from "This is lousy" to "This is good" every few minutes. Maybe this happens when an American looks at certain British musicals? (Have you ever seen "Absolute Beginners"?)
My favorite part about THE RAGE is that he has this fit and then instead of storming off at the end he just walks over to the corner of the stage and... stands there. And since there's no applause in the proshot it feels so awkward
My personal opinion is that because this is based off of real-life people, it tends to get judged harshly if the story is changed even the slightest (sometimes it's also interpret wrongly). But if you only look at it from a "fun little show" perspective, and treat the characters as only characters, it's a pretty good one. I love the styles of the songs they have. It's the kind of songs I used to hear growing up. XD
Hot take, I personally loved Diana the Musical: I felt like it did for Princess Diana what Hamilton and Six does for Alexander and Eliza Hamilton and the Six Queen of Henry the 8th. Allows her story to be told In a respectful way from her perspective: most documentries who talk about her mainly tell the story from Charles and The Royal Familes side. Diana the Musical gives the story from her side of the story and does a great job of it, I don't get why it's hated the show is beautiful.
Please allow me to throw my hat in here. I, like you, have seen Diana more thank a dozen times. At least large chunks of it. And it is BAD. Disrespectful and BAD. People either like it because its had terrible reviews and word of mouth, or they are unable to associate ANY bad things with Diana herself, or their perceived empathy for the idea of Diana and her plight. The exploitation of her life in the guise of campy commentary is what cuts most deeply. As far as the progressive happiness with subsequent viewings its simply the anticipation and knowing what youre in for. The first viewing is tough because the mind recoils, overwhelmed. I too experienced a kind of surrealism. Even now I find a little bit of the surreal feeling, though never the same magnitude.
Hillary Clinton and Diana were both shorter haired blonde women in their prime in the 1990s. So Hillary hair / Diana hair just aren't all that different they are adjacent styles. I don't appreciate some random straight guy saying "Hillary Clinton hair" like its some clever read when she looked pretty damn good in the '90s.
(sigh) Mommie Dearest only seems camp for those who don't know people actually like that. It's like those who think some villains are cartoonish until they found out real people who were like that.
@@StealingFocus Except angry abusive people actually are like that. It's not an exaggeration. If you know where to look you can see real people acting that way. And yes, I've been on the receiving end of that. It's not campy it's frightening.
I was surprised Diana, The Pantomime, was a failure, as it embodies the traits we all associate with its titular character. Cheap, tacky, instantly forgettable and unknown by millions. The only minor difference being the show was a train wreck, rather than a...
Diana the musical was definitely fun in its badness, but it's a great way to get lost for 2 hours. The cast is doing THE MOST. 10/10.
As I said on Twitter, Diana feels like one of those movies you watch when you're drunk or high or (in my case) drinking cold medicine. I decided to watch it when I was very sick and it was very entertaining.
It's very camp for sure and I think it's easier to turn your brain off when watching it live, like what Howard Ho said on his Twitter.
Loved it ! Gerald is adorable and his conclusion is perfect ♥️ (sometimes I can be a bit of a snob, too)
(I MAY even watch Diana on netflix)
I'm a British, 17-year-old, hardcore DiFANa - to the point where the show follows me on Twitter - and this is hands down the best analysis I've seen on why I think this show works. It's just a joyful, joyful show and despite its flaws - of which there are technically many - has brought me so much happiness by "letting my brain switch off" for a few hours (15+ times). Could it be better? Yes. Do I want it to exist any other way? No. It's perfect for what it is and needs to be and frankly, I'm very very grateful for that. Thanks for such a great video! :)
Totally agree! Hello from Miami!
YOU GOT SIDEWAYS TO COLLAB?? That’s awesome. I miss his videos. Was just rewatching them the other day.
The UK doesn't have kindergarten. She was a preschool helper at the time but I guess they just matched that to kindergarten for...reasons?
Definitely for reasons!!
Okay but no joke "you do you duty for your country and your honor" is one of my favorite parts of the whole experience
16:50 I am WEEPING. Your reactions had me convulsing. What the actual HELL kind of way to open act 2 is that? You've convinced me, i have to watch this now!
The way I see it, Diana has something for every mood. Do you want to have a fun time? There's moments for that. Do you want to be genuinely moved? There's moments for that. Do you want spectacle and amazing costumes? Moments for that. Do you want a critique of existing power structures? Moments for that. Do you want something that you can just laugh at? Lots of moments for that. I love this show.
This was great! I loved your plot breakdown and having the gamut of opinions was really fun.
Netflix isn't one of my always streaming services so I was very deliberate in what Netflix films I watched when I had it last month for Stranger Things. But after seeing everyone's reactions to Diana and the subsequent very fast Broadway closure, I knew it had to be one. Of the opinions featured, I'd say my reaction was closest to Sideways's. Watching Diana was . . an experience. Not one I care to repeat but I didn't outright hate it. It was just messy.
What's also interesting for me is that I watched Spencer in June and had very mixed thoughts on it, mostly because it doesn't give the audience a crumb of context- not even the year the events are supposed to be happening. I think it makes for an interesting contrast with Diana the Musical. One spends two hours on a single weekend, one spends two hours on 17 YEARS (yes, there are musicals that can handle large spans of time deftly; Diana is not one of them). Or maybe my conclusion should be that it turns out I don't really care about the royal family that much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm in my late 20s and you're who I aspire to be like when I grow up! I don't wanna hate myself at 40 or hide my hobbies & interests, I wanna have fun! Wtf do adults with no hobbies even talk about? Tax breaks? No thanks.
AND I'm trying to parlay this hobby into an actual masters degree now! Never too late! :)
Completely agree Autumn 😊
I think everyone who watches diana will have their own favorite wtf lyric amongst the many wtf lyrics. Mine is "darling im holding our son so let me say jolly well done" so much to unpack. Why are you tell her, she's standing right in front of you? Jolly well done? What? Sometimes I have to pause the show for a moment and just ponder that fking lyric
The cameo at the end, loved it.
It was great including everyone's opinions. Although there was disagreement, everyone had good reason for their positions.
Honestly, that 'Serves me right for marrying a scorpio' cracks me up every time. I don't know what it is about this musical, but I love it too. I used to pretend I mostly was in it for the costume changes, because I used to volunteer as a stage manager, so I can appreciate. But there's just something deliciously campy and fun about Diana: The Musical.
Hi, so happy to see a video from you. I never would've watch this on Netflix if you hadn't done this. To me it's a musical written for Rupaul's Drag Race with good actors.
Missed you! Really excited to watch all of this.
Ever since watching this the first time I haven't been able to unsee the shoulder work and the "Ah ah ah ah"s. Ensemble should have won their own tony
Yay, I've been waiting for a new video 😃
You’re back!!!!
This video has made me cackle so many times already and I'm only a few minutes in ("but mummy!" I die)
Nice to see you Emily and Gerald again. It was cool that you got other people to give their own thoughts on the musical as well.
The first time I watched it I was in shock, then I listened to the songs and watched it again and LOVED it! I think with a little reworking they could really have something!
As always, great work Emily (and Gerald!)!
Hi Emily :) I'm a big fan of musicals and Diva brought me here :D
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This reminds me of my reaction to "Absolute Beginners," a British movie musical from the 1980s, based on a 1950s novel. I've only seen it once, but my attitude kept swinging from "This is lousy" to "This is good" every few minutes. Maybe this happens when an American looks at certain British musicals? (Have you ever seen "Absolute Beginners"?)
My favorite part about THE RAGE is that he has this fit and then instead of storming off at the end he just walks over to the corner of the stage and... stands there. And since there's no applause in the proshot it feels so awkward
I looove Diana the Musical, and if it ever move through he'll and high water to see it live. Esp for Queen Jeanna herself.
My personal opinion is that because this is based off of real-life people, it tends to get judged harshly if the story is changed even the slightest (sometimes it's also interpret wrongly). But if you only look at it from a "fun little show" perspective, and treat the characters as only characters, it's a pretty good one.
I love the styles of the songs they have. It's the kind of songs I used to hear growing up. XD
My roommates and I have watched it 18 times since release. We feel so seen 💜
Hot take, I personally loved Diana the Musical: I felt like it did for Princess Diana what Hamilton and Six does for Alexander and Eliza Hamilton and the Six Queen of Henry the 8th. Allows her story to be told In a respectful way from her perspective: most documentries who talk about her mainly tell the story from Charles and The Royal Familes side. Diana the Musical gives the story from her side of the story and does a great job of it, I don't get why it's hated the show is beautiful.
I can't wait to see this!
Jaaaaaaaaaaaaames Hewitt.. that is all!
I believe it is good. It's a different perspective of Diana.
P. S. Thanks for the support of BSB. I know Brian and AJ. 😊😊😊
Please allow me to throw my hat in here. I, like you, have seen Diana more thank a dozen times. At least large chunks of it. And it is BAD. Disrespectful and BAD. People either like it because its had terrible reviews and word of mouth, or they are unable to associate ANY bad things with Diana herself, or their perceived empathy for the idea of Diana and her plight. The exploitation of her life in the guise of campy commentary is what cuts most deeply. As far as the progressive happiness with subsequent viewings its simply the anticipation and knowing what youre in for. The first viewing is tough because the mind recoils, overwhelmed. I too experienced a kind of surrealism. Even now I find a little bit of the surreal feeling, though never the same magnitude.
Hillary Clinton and Diana were both shorter haired blonde women in their prime in the 1990s. So Hillary hair / Diana hair just aren't all that different they are adjacent styles. I don't appreciate some random straight guy saying "Hillary Clinton hair" like its some clever read when she looked pretty damn good in the '90s.
Broadway by ghostlight gets me
SO DELICIOUS
YESSSSSSSS
(sigh)
Mommie Dearest only seems camp for those who don't know people actually like that. It's like those who think some villains are cartoonish until they found out real people who were like that.
Mommie Dearest is camp because it's camp.
@@StealingFocus Except angry abusive people actually are like that. It's not an exaggeration. If you know where to look you can see real people acting that way. And yes, I've been on the receiving end of that. It's not campy it's frightening.
@@thenerderrant4293 Faye Dunaway gets too much flack for Mommie Dearest in my eyes.
I think she's genuinely great in that film.
@@thenerderrant4293I’m sorry you experienced that😢 but um best to let them enjoy the acting ok?😅 do the agree to disagree and leave it be.
Does The Royal Family approve of this at all?
Oh I don't think any of them have even acknowledged it
@@StealingFocus Makes sense, glad you have a new video up :). and who was the pupper at the 2 min. mark if you'll permit me?
I was surprised Diana, The Pantomime, was a failure, as it embodies the traits we all associate with its titular character. Cheap, tacky, instantly forgettable and unknown by millions. The only minor difference being the show was a train wreck, rather than a...
You are sick in the head