Making an episode about an Institute that you respect is not easy - tried to stick to hard data - that shows a worrying trend. Really touched with so many IIT alumni reaching out that sharing their story and the fact that too much is expected out of a IIT Graduate. Hope this episode helps in a little way. Though not many - did manage to draw a few smart comments that enquired about my educational qualifications ... not that it matters - but here goes:))))) Schooling - La Martiniere College Graduation - Hindu College Masters - St.Stephens MSc - Got admission into Boston University (but dad didn't have 40+ lakh to spare:))) Had the privilege of studying in the best school / colleges of India - But had to work my butt off in the media sector - no godfather - no alumni support - just kept up-skilling and learning on the job.
the only problem ye hai is video me ke aplog bus video bna dete hai news article ka basis pe na kisi unemployed student se bat krne ka kosis krte hai na kuch... pucho to sahi ke kya kya problem hame hai.. dekho fir real sch pta chalega...
Agar koi ladka 12 ke baad padne ke liye bahar jata hai to use pata hi nahi hota ki wo kon sa course le ouur usss course ka future kyaa hai use aane wale samaay me use field ki jyada jarurat hai market me ya nahi. All students are confused in India about how to choose best course for his life, for study, for money and for future
I am from one of these IITs and I can confirm all these are true. There are a few more factors even within the course and curriculum structure that effect the students. The reality in media and society is completely different from what's on ground
@@iitjee2024target shutting down with full force ..startups r ones who r sacking more than 70% while Google,twitter r laying off only 20% Startup survival is make or break stage now
Startup culture is encouraged, but is very small. The majority mindset is still and always pushed to be placement. It's very few students maybe 3-4 percent who willingly take the risk to go beyond and do something different.
nah the problem is even after they are from IITs they take irrelevant courses like Metallurgical Engg, Material Engg, Ocean Engg, etc and stay jobless, they should choose CSE, ECE, Civil and other popular courses that are relevant in Job market. Although I'm a BCA passout from a Tier-3 college currently working, I'm lucky I didn't waste my time taking stupid courses.
I'm not from IIT, (ECE from Tier 3 College). But right from the beginning, I was interested in Software Development. I did lot of courses in the same, did projects, increased my rating in Competitive Programming. Finally grabbed International Offer!! With my experience, I can confidently say that, in the present world, you don't need an IIT degree to be successful. "IIT degree" acts as a catalyst for your success but absence of it doesn't make you a failure. Just focus on your skills, be a top player of the game. Your college, your degree, your grades, your branch doesn't matter. The journey is tough but sure is worth rewarding.
Imtiyaz Ji what you say is very true. I’m a retired ObGyn Prof and I graduated from a Tier 2 institution and taught all my 30y of working life in a Tire 3 Med Coll and I can with confidence say I did better teaching than the Tire 1 Med Coll colleagues and my students have done better than anybody. The IITs & AIMS only prepare Engineers & Doctors for the west.
I moved to USA to pursue PhD after graduating from IIT. The difference is day and night when it comes to work culture and treatment towards students. Students have freedom to pursue courses of their interest and are respected by their professors here in USA while in India we still live in the age where professors bully students for reasons I never understood.
Professor bullying students I can related to it just don't agrees with professor theory I got F 😇😇my whole GPA go down coz of that F. never will forget that A** hole face in my life
Tushar bhai need some help... Im working as srf in iitd... I have heard that us phd is more rewarding than german phd but time taken is more... Is it true?
@@spellcheck5393I guess it depends on the team, your lead and managers. I have worked in both US and India and I have had good experiences at both places. Whereas many of my Indian friends are glad to be in US because they were overworked, under paid and unappreciated in India. Everyone has different experiences.
As a fellow IIT graduate with a specialization in Mechanical Systems, I can totally relate to the dilemma of whether or not IITs are still worth it. After clearing GATE 2019, I had high hopes of doing excellent research and finding a job where my skills would be valued. However, after two years of hard work and a CGPA of 9.5/10, during the placement, I was offered a position of graduate trainee with a package of 10 lakh per annum. Although this was the highest pay for many of my batchmates who wanted to continue in the core sector, I ended up rejecting the job offer and pursuing my PhD in artificial intelligence and renewable energy in France. I must say, it has been a way more rewarding experience than I ever imagined. So, to answer the question "Are IITs still worth it?", it totally depends on your aspirations and the path you want to take.
There is no Industry in India. What do u expect?? U work in a heavy engineering firm in India which will have only domestic demands, i.e in country demands.... It's no Hyundai heavy engineering, Boosan, GE, Semens, which have international monopoly.... Germany has 4-5 big firms itself along with smaller firms, India has just TATA, that's it. What do u expect???
@@rabindrakumar3861 I think the domain knowledge of EEE you will gain from IIT will always be relevant but you should definitely up skill yourself by learning machine learning and popular programming language
@@iron_007 zero 😂😂. Phd are just for academic position, usually they don't have a very high value in the market compared to a masters guy or someone with similar level of industrial experience
Not only IIT courses need to be re evaluated. But the entire education system in India needs to be re evaluated. Our Education system should encourage minds with problem solving skills rather than focusing on minds with memory keeping skills. This is something we will be talking about in the coming times but I'm happy people have begun to address the issue starting from IIT.
An IITian here. The content of this video is absolutely true. No doubt that IITs do office some security in terms of job, salary, quality education and networking. However the amount of pressure that students go through during preparation is not worth all that. I appeared for IIT-JEE for the first time in 2015, but couldn't clear it. I was so much depressed. My world turned upside down. I used to cry at nights. However I gathered courage and started preparing again and luckily cracked JEE in 2016. God knows what I would have done if I didn't clear JEE in 2016 either. Now when I look back I feel that I was depressed for no reason. Most of my colleagues and seniors in my company are non-IITians. And they are also as intelligent as I am (or probably more 😅). They are earning at par with me. If you are a JEE aspirant, do remember that going to an IIT is great but not at the cost of your happiness and mental health.
Same colleagues are from all type of schools. All are salaried employees forced to work 9am to 10 pm and keep crying to change jobs but don't cuz of pay.
Took 2 year drop for NEET & my experience was the same. Won't recommend it to anyone (especially if they've mental health issues. Tbh, phases like these break even the strongests) unless they're REALLY passionate about it. NOTHING is more important than your physical & mental health.
that is not the case, faculties in IITs are highly qualified in their respective subjects, the thing is there is no need of these new subjects in the real market, when only thing they need is CS engineer.
Professional college is for helping to understand the fundamentals in deeper and cleaner manner. Once your fundamentals are clear you yourself need to work on new courses technologies. This new courses will be based on industry demands and the industry changes in every 5-6 year time. If you are skillful and your fundamentals are strong you can learn any thing new at any time. Please note, professional colleges are not a placement cell.
The truth is that Indian society views IITs just as a ticket to a 1cr package and a job in Silicon valley, and not as institutes that further humanity. Until that mentality won't change, we will never progress
I spent 4 years of my life in IIT Bombay. I think there are lot of opportunities apart from doing graduation from IIT. Less than 5 percent students get satisfied after completing there graduation from IITs. So be careful before to make IIT as your dream.
i am also an ECE engineering Student ( VIT vellore ). this is verry serious problem for any of our indian engineering colleges and manufacturing industries . if you see or hear then there is only large number of IT jobs but very less core engineering Job . this indicate that there is very less manufacturing industry in our country.
My friend is also from VIT and did ECE. He's doing a 13LPA IT job which he got by preparing for Computer programming and problem solving. Jobs in mechanical, chemical, civil are very very less when compared to the number of students
Hi, is it just about lack of jobs in other sectors or also about the lack of niche and applied courses provided by Indian universities? As someone who has been working in the study abroad industry, I am amazed by the kinds of niche and practical programs universities offer abroad. I believe India needs to grow in research, higher ed opportunities which would contribute to the growth and establishment of new industries.
If you are above average, you can crack government exams for core. Trust me, my seniors from core branch have cracked those exams, just studying 2 hours daily from 2nd year. Competition is less when you know your syllabus
I was a State ranker..Failed to get seat at IIT...Had to go for Only Diploma Course due to family & financial problems, Done some basic jobs like sweeper, typing etc.. during education..some relatives (some are billionaire) doesn't even want to see my face.however I was tried to learn business methods too..after 10 years results on business comes ..Profits reached 10cr first time in history. Moral : Never Give up !
Being an IITian , I can say that most of the people who don't get jobs are the once who don't sit for placements and opt for higher studies. Also many students don't score bare minimum cgpa for sitting for placements. So yes , competition is even more after going into an IIT too , because everyone has come after cracking one of the worlds toughest exams. It doesn't makes sense saying if you get IIT you will be successsfull. You need to grind even more , and that is a fact.
In 2020 I gave GATE Exam and secured a rank of 5000, and took admission in Jadavpur University. I thought that since it was such a prestigious university in Kolkata the course for Mtech in CSE would also be very good. But after joining I came to know that it was very outdated, and the main focus of the entire course was on the theoritcal subjects and the teaching method of most of the faculty were below par. After continuing for a semester I decided to drop off. Even the de-registration process was very challenging as most of the task was to be performed offline. Nothing happens online there.
@@AdrianOsta I don't know if you are aware of the current scenario of India, but none of the colleges are able to fill their seats with Mtech students except the top tier IIT and IIITs. Same was the case for JU. We had a batch strength of 30 out of which 23 was filled and even in that 3 of us left in the mid way. Next time onwards check the facts and then make some useless comments.
@@subhambasuroychowdhury9698 damn bhai Merse toh jee clear nahi hori :( inspite of taking drop Bhot demotivating feel hota But Dekhte Best of luck brother aage ke liye
I can tell about situation in 31 NITs across India. NITs are thought of as 2nd grade institutions if IITs are thought of as 1st grade institutions. I was PhD fellow in mathematics in NIT Durgapur and i saw people after Mtech doing PhD in their disciplines. I asked couple of engineering students why are doing PhD after Mtech, why don't do job ? Their answers were "companies are offering 20k salary per month, it is better to join PhD where you get monthly 31k fellowship better than 20k job". The job situation of engineering students is very disappointing
IITans are successful not because of IIT, but because the students who go there are genuinely hardworking and consistent students. These qualities also help them in life ahead. People, companies know this fact hence they try to give these students the opportunities they deserve. Hence the hard working nature and consistency of the student gives them success not IIT entirely.
Only general candidates. Getting into IIT despite of state based apartheid is really commendable and such students are the one who are high package grabbers.
I am in class 10th and seriously this video chills me... though I haven't thought much about going to an IIT but can guess that other sectors are going through the same fate. I always wanted to learn new skills and will surely boost that up after this.
If you wanna do CA by opting commerce It's best option Since ICAI which is organisation of CA Offered 12000 jobs And there were 10000 CA qualifiers Meaning CA has more demand and less supply
Just before you make up your mind to choose commerce for CA, as suggested by the user above, make sure you watch videos of CA mentors and meet CA aspirants. And don't forget to read about the passing percentage of CA final, even inter.
@कार्तिक मलिक [जाट] as far as I know till +2, you can't pursue chemistry without maths Choose any stream you're interested in and just make sure to analyse the career options available after completing graduation.
@कार्तिक मलिक [जाट] totally depends on your interest. It's quite a subjective decision Sit down with paper and pen, make mind map, take help of quora and YT, and choose according to your liking. I can't give you that, that's your job
Hello Akash.......I am a doctor,currently an aspirant for NEET PG. I would like you to emphasis on the current state of young doctors in our country. As per a RTI reply by National Medical Commission, in the last 5 years, 64 UG and 55 PG students have committed suicide. 150 UG students and 956 PG doctors have dropped out of the college due to various reasons. The cost of medical education in India, the quality of training and the enormous amount of workload coupled with imbalance in UG/PG seats. I would urge you to make a separate video on this topic so that common people can understand the irony of medical education in India.
True.. I am also a doc, NEET pg aspirant. And the way we r being treated like shit by NMC, judiciary is pathetic. I think MBBS degree is too much overrated in our society, just like IIT. Many students go into it coz they don't knw wht other options r for bio. The field is highly toxic, interns r made to wrk like donkeys, and also the increasing violence against us by patients. No one is ready to listen.. Many of my frnds r contemplating of leaving the country jst for a better working environment.. Everything is soo mismanaged. I finished MBBS frm highly reputed.govt college, got good marks in 12th, topped in bio.. I couldn't clear neetpg and whatever I studied went into waste due to this recent postponent saga. And the added pressure of marriage.. I m losing my mind.. Despite working hard all my life since childhood.. I m here, a Grand Failure. I advice juniors not to take MBBS just coz people say u will get settled.. It will take long time to settle, and if u take mbbs, thn try to go to foreign for Pg.. My strong advice.
True , after rigorous study for 4.5 yrs and sleepless internship for a year , gaining all knowledge for primary care doctor. When I asked for job in hospitals they said 30k per month for 12 hrs duty , I was shocked !! They said ayurvedic doctors do at 20k we want just white coat to sit hospital in night so people think we are giving 24hr service. Its not the case in engineering if your talented you get hired and paid.
Fellow NEET PG aspirant here bro, I was just going to type the same. No body is held accountable for the injustice and suicides. No fair working hours for residents.
Bro, Will you please make a video on INDIAN DOCTORS also?? Please do a research on how is the life of aspiring doctors and those who have become doctors or have joined Post graduation courses and committing suicide even before appearing to Competitive exams and giving up their lives and also increasing crimes on doctors & Jobs offered to doctors. NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS ISSUE . looking forward for you to speak on that !
@@niiikkkk1668 medico is a medico, be it an Indian graduate or foreign graduate. Politics me already divide and rule chal raha hai, yahan na kariye. Unity is the best. NEXT implementation ke bad waise b sab equal hi hone wala hai! So please. 🤗
I'm not IITian but got a placement with 12 LPA in Accenture as Business Development Associate after completing BBA from a tier 2 college bcz of my soft and market demand skills which I learned from udemy.
As an IITian myself, I think one of the biggest problems isn't that of IIT, but the sheer lack of jobs for any other core field other than Computer Science (or maybe even Electronics). For the remaining branches, one may think that there must be some opening, cause if there weren't any jobs then why on earth would these departments even exist, right? But the fact of the matter is that virtually nobody in these branches actually takes a job in their own specialization (even if they do, it's because they weren't getting anything else). Also, as academics in IITs is much more rigorous and difficult compared to any other external institute, it's tougher for IITians that students from other colleges to study the courses from their own specialization, whilst also studying Computer Science for their placements in Software engineering firms. That leaves students from these branches with just 2 options - study in their own specialization and work hard to get a menial low-paying job, or some further education (if you have the money to fund it, ofc); or ditch their specialization entirely to study Computer Science for Software firms. Most people would clearly choose the second option, which works out generally. However, this year was much different as the global tech recession caused most Software firms to virtually freeze all placements. This has caused far worse placements than usual, as if we exclude high-paying trading firms, IBs and HFTs (none of which are related to engineering, btw), very very few companies actually paid a hefty salary for the to-be graduates. This recession has sent shockwaves even to junior batches, most of whom have essentially shifted their focus entirely from Computer Science to fields like Finance, Consulting, Management and Trading; none of which are related to engineering in any way. If anything, IITs' placements stats show that the domain of engineering itself isn't nearly as secure a domain in the job market as once thought to be. My prediction is that in the coming years, more and more IITians would join IIT just for the sake of it, whilst completely immersing themselves in studying Management-related fields for Finance and Consulting positions.
It's completely true I was also I.T student but by God grace or something i switched my faculty on time As result i saved lots of money, needed time and most important mental peace Today i am soft skill trainer and writer with healthy mind Lastly i urge all you who are reading this please don't ignore your mental health
I never got placed when I completed my Master's in IIT Madras, which even led to me being suicidal. It has taken at least 1.5 years of therapy to recover from that. Eventually, I shifted away from Civil Engineering because of low job demand. I re-skilled myself as a software developer (I was able to do that because of my privilege to some extent), to get a good job and even now I am underpaid, despite highly specialized nature of my job (requires competency in engineering, computer science and Math). I still wish I should have gone to Europe or USA or Canada. No wonder India has so much brain drain. We simply don't have respect for highly skilled employees, especially, but not limited to, ones from engineering background. I love engineering a lot and I think a lot of students too, but struggle for getting admission and then failing to get a job really hurts the morale of students. No wonder India has so many suicide attempts among students. EDIT: Also, there is a fundamental issue of not many entrepreneurs rising in India, for the simple reason that our education stifles the creativity of student. I think the reasons are far too deep than represented in the video. India simply does not know how to use the vast range of talents present among the students. For example, I always wanted to work in space agency, specifically to develop computational tools. However, I cannot do that in ISRO because first, they don't take experienced engineers (because they want to take only through an exam, which apparently our govt thinks is more fair and there is also an age limit) and second, the kind of work I have to do in ISRO is decided by my specialization and not my interests (because governments have decided a career path according to specialization without any flexibility). This further stifles creativity of people. That is the reason our research institutes don't contribute too much in any sector and research is generally stagnant, because there is no value to the new ideas and no funding for ideas. Because there is no funding, no ideas are executed and no new companies are created and hence, not a whole lot of jobs. Indian industries depend a lot of international products/companies because we simply don't have funding to fund ideas of our own. For example, the almost entire IT industry depends on international contracts to earn money, very, very few companies have products of their own. One I know of is Byju's, which provides a service of very dubious utility to it's customers, in my opinion. We hardly try to develop new technologies, products or services, if at all. Sorry, for the long essay, but the issue is very, very nuanced and lies in the flawed foundations on which education system is laid out here.
It's not respect, if all run for jobs who will create business and employ them. It's youth fault only. We have to compete with foreign country people in business then only people will be employed.
@@Riyanparag_discoraza Problem is with students, because no one want to study physics , chemistry and maths. USA paying 300k dollars base pay to computational chemist/physicist. India pays peanuts to them if we compare them with software engineers.
@@kripanichand9543 is true, many students don't have any awareness about the research job market . Europe is paying 7k euro per month for a fresh PhD graduate in chemistry, while India pays 50k per month salary. I guess IISER /IISC will Rule india in future.
Aakash, I am from IIM. Thank you for bringing the suicide agenda. Being a mother, it scares me to think - what's the use of the education if it compels students to take such extreme steps. These places are very very good at creating Intelligent money minting bots. So, lets not expect compassion. Please do understand these students have reached the top just by focusing on themselves, focus focus & focus. We have not been taught to think about others and we have not learnt too. So, how can you expect anything else? Exceptions are there but very rare.
Mam not only suicide I have known about a grape attempt by prof on his phd student, after which he was removed and ordered not to come near the Institute and the student's degree was put on hold. This never comes out in to the public, everything is hidden. And the profs, most of them are not even humble when u ask them normal questions, either they don't know stuff and they don't teach it well, if they have some knowledge they are extremely rude always thinking of ways to bully u.
You are absolutely correct, I've seen a lots of cases that education and banner is Just a ladder to build up one's future but qualified thinking, dedication,devotion and patience to acquire is much important, we the parents shouldn't create pressure, Just to motivate the children simultaneously we should listen and understand their minds and capacity,parents का प्यार, मोह का बंधन में बच्चे खो जतें हैं,
This will continue If aim of higher education is only gaining big package job/s in InterNational Companies... Overall development is Missing.. People are not able to focus on themselves well too.. they dont know how to keep themselves mentally & physically fit.. ( very basic requirement of life )..
I had always thought that going IIT that bigger things and now i realised that your skill is more than important your degree and I heard that once you would get IIT then you enjoy your life you don't need study more but that time is important for learning. I am happy to seeing that people are seeing talent not degree.
India and Indians have been looking at institutions like IITs through the wrong lens. Their counterparts in the US, like MIT, Harvard etc, are not looked at as factories that create workers for mundane jobs but rather thinkers, thought leaders and entrepreneurs who will incubate the next adventure, business, technology and will "create" jobs and intellectual property that benefits the whole country and humanity in general. Until we change our mindset and attitude towards these institutions and foster them to be what they should be, we will continue to see these transactional disappointments.
I am a Mathematics student at Jadavpur University. When i was reading in class 12 , my thoughts were very high about the Jadavpur University, Presidency University etc etc. But now i understand that my thoughts are totally wrong. College depend nahi karta hain, sabhi teachers ek hi tarah hota hain. Lekin observation and study, these two things only depend on you. Yeha paar sirf tag hii milte hain. 🙏🏻 Sorry if the words hurt anyone 🙏🏻
All schools teach the same abcd but people are foolish who run behind some particular schools similarly all colleges teach the same curriculum so what one learn and impart is important.
Plzz sir made a vedio on IAS scam.. Becoz many coaching institutions attract students and lakhs of students waste life for merely 400 posts.. And almost 98 percent students got depressed by not selecting in IAS after 8 years of time waste in it. And then they got nothing.
That's what I am saying people in India are wasting their precious teenage years, their most productive years of life preparing for exams. The main reason behind this rat race is the Indian mentality where people who get a government job or become IAS/IPS are celebrated like heroes and overhyped. Mostly the coachings do so. Well they have to make their business. If they would not hype the exam they are training students for no one would buy their courses, test series and study packages. This is all bloody business. If you want to sell your product first create its hype.
@@loser3357 I agree with the comment Ed tech is biggest business now Upsc jee neet are prime exams of this industry upsc is worst as it sucks ur whole youth I know bhaiya who started preparation on 21 22 age and now 30+ couldnt get a job but still have hopes ek ye mentality bnjati hai itna aagye hai thoda aur shi Kabhi pre nhi hoga kabhi pre hua to mains nahi kabhi interview tk pahuch gye to lgega ab kareeb hai fir kabhi mains hi na ho mostly got stuck in loop
Darun bolecho Abhishek da. Being an IIT grad I can relate to this absolutely. But this is not just for IITs but for very good universities as well. People have a conception that if someone is studying in a reputed institute he will get everything automatically. However, people fail to see 70-80% students struggle to get through such phases. It is humiliating. And the present fintech and IT sector totally outshines all other sectors which also makes it very clear how our traditional sectors are lacking and soon with automation there won't be any high paying jobs, that's why if you see diploma college placement data in some areas they are doing better as Indian industries needs labours at cheap price, they don't need specialists. They are outsourcing it anyway.
Being from iit bombay, I totally agree with each and every point of the video. Never thought someone could make such an accurate video showcasing the real reality of iits. And yes it is damn true, in today's world skills are more important than any thing . Even iit degree fails out . Gaya wo Zamana jab 3 idiots dekhke sab ko iit jaana tha.. world is changing at a very high speed. And we should understand the demand of edtech industries rather than just being from iit.
Many IITians are working as accountants in Retail Jobs like Amazon, Shoe- Making Cobbler Companies like Nike and Grocery Outlets sourcing farm produce to bring to grocery market. This does not require IIT education. You can do these in India itself.
As an IIT kanpur undergrad from EE , I do agree by your few points . But you know what is best about IIT and IITians is that they are surrounded by intelligent people everytime and this pushes them to work even more harder and prove their credibility. They manages to land into a decent jobs sooner or later.
@@meet_2480 Why the heck u always frightened about the reservation system 🤮🤮. Do u know the difference between SC/ST and general quota cut off. No. of seats for EWS ??? U are going to compete with your communities and u are gonna marry from ur community right. Can't u fight with your community 😂
@@dinesh6489 Its not about fighting with our community. It's about how a deserving student can't get a seat at good iit in good branch but one from SC ST gets it even at low marks. The bitter fact is that they can't even cope up to level of teaching at these prestigious institutions.
I'll tell you my example I am going to give Jee adv this year I am damn sure I'll get under 900 hundred rank but still won't be able to make to top 7 iits cs branch . While one with 'lower caste' gets it easily.
This is the actual sad reality of our education system. One of my friend's wife did a PhD in plasma physics, now she is teaching in a school because of no jobs in her subjects..
Experimental plasma physics doesn't really exist, thus I assume it's computational and theoretical with simulations. In that case, she could have used those with some programming in analytics and related areas. Curious why not
I did a chemical engineering program at IIT Delhi after getting a good rank, but now I work in the IT sector. The curriculum was boring and hard, and people who scored much lower than me in JEE are earning 5 times more money than I am. I feel like IIT wasted my time. those who went to lower branches at IIT can understand my frustration because I don't get the respect I deserve. Additionally, individuals with less academic pressure not only read literature, learn new skills, and enjoy their leisure time but also engage in sports activities. Moreover, the fees charged by IITs are significantly higher compared to state engineering colleges. And despite being so unsuccessful and hurdles people mock you like “bhai tum to IIT ho” Even professors are only supportive for further education if you are a 9 pointer other they don’t care
Being Post Graduate Doctor I request you to Please make Such Detail episode on Aspiring MBBS Students ,to let them know Reality of MBBS Even PG ,SUPER SPECILIST In Today's society
Thank you for this episode. My son will finish 10th this year. We were all set to spend lakhs of rupees on training and getting him into IIT. But somewhere i always felt that I must study the success rates of these colleges. U did it for me. This episode was a real eye opener. I think we along with my son will explore a lot more career options and he can pick what he wants. No more pressure on him.
Yes please leave him to take a right path and after few years he should not blame on his parents that - "abba mhi manenge" Or my parents pressures me to take engineering
I am currently associated with one of the 'prestigious' IITs for setting up a Centre of Excellence. We had to agree on giving totally new courses through the Centre with pre-identified demand from industry. Academic upgradation can only work when the IITs work together as partners. But unfortunately the common sentiment is of competition among these institutions.
I have been to DU and am now currently in Iit madras. I totally understand how soft skills are very important. Currently working on some skills aside from my data science course. Keep making content like this, it's necessary 👍🏻
I am an IITian and pass out from IIT MUMBAI (CS, 2012 Batch) currently working as a Senior Software Consultant in USA (NYC) in a Top MNC. I can definitely confirm that whatever you told is absolutely correct. Unfortunately, now the standard (In terms of Skill Sets) of IIT graduates has been degraded a lot and I feel very very bad about it because they are getting fired immediately. Their learning attitude is also not there in the industry because they think that they are the best because society and parents think so. To be very honest, after spending 10yrs in this IT Software industry, still I always look to enhance my skill sets and as per my reporting manager I am one of the extremely highly skilled professional but I really don’t know whether my job is safe or not in this global recession. People in the Society including the parents, they don’t want to understand that what an IITian is going through in his life. We are just living in a false illusionary society where people thinks that every IITian is well settled and perfect in their professional life which is absolutely wrong.
I agree. THe skills based jobs have nothing to do with education. The software industry is evolving and the businesses want quick results so they hire only based on skills and ignore education and other background of the candidate
I am from IIT and I can say this video is true to the point. you addressed a very important issue that in India core engineering sectors don't have jobs.
well when you want to give vote for religion and caste then what kind of job you are looking for , this the result, you should join the industries / sector for which you select govt
@@VY-zt3phSandly being a congress worker from Tripura no party is good for India I think ...Every one is corrupted except some central leader(like-modi,Rahul gandhi).
I am also an IITian. Maximum no. of unemployed students are from reserved category. They get admission due to reservation but unable to complete the course with >8.5 CGPA. Though, they get admission for Engineering, but they start preparing for Civil services or CAT and don't work on their skills.
Being an NITian(NIT Silchar CSE), I too agree that many times, there are courses that are taught in IITs/NITs & other colleges which are irrelevant and does not have any relation with the branch a student is pursuing....Even sometimes I also feel that those good things that I imagined during my JEE preparation about college are far far away from the reality :)
@@arghojitsaha3568 bhai dekho jo tume socha hoga college life se related wo india ke colleges mein milna bohot muskil hai you have to find your hustle and if your main motive is placement then all things will become secondary
@@tranquilizer234 🙂pure general bro, pure general! And what do you mean by "tumhare liye aasan hoga"?🙃waise toh bolta nehi, but mere mains mein 98.22%ile the,CRL 16262, so you can imagine NIT mein CSE kyu mila🙂
Kya chahte ho tum log IIT bhi kharab hai, MBA bhi kharab hai, medical bhi kharab hai,sahi kya hai? Sab tumhari tarah RUclips khol ke baith jaye Aur jo man me aye wo bolna suru kar de. Isse desh aur duniya dono bahut tarakki karegi
Saari problem population ki hai .. or govt. Ko youth ka use karna bilkul bhi nhi aata .. literally learn something from chinna... How to use it effectively. Me bhi neet aspirants hu. But, ye akash Bhai such bol rhe h. Reality to change nhi ho jaygi... Mujhe ye sbb rat race lgta h... Jha hmm sbb Jaa rhe hai ...😕
Dekho mai bhi NIT me padta mains aur advance dono crack kiya hun, jo ye data bata rahe hai, ki itne% placement nhi hua Badi badi iits me, inse ye pucho ki kitne % bacche placement me baithe hi nhi, kitne research or higher study ke liye chale gye wo bhi to batao. Bata rahe hain ki communication skill acchi nhi hoti , iit balo ki😅(isliye ye course le lo) kabhi kisi iit bale mile ho. Do semester hum logo ko communication skill per kaam karya jata h.Agar iit bala ye sab bole tab sahi lagta hai, bina proper knowledge kuch bhi bolna sahi nhi lagta mujhe
I am not from an IIT or NIT, but I know a few friends of mine who are from these colleges, and we are in our BTech final year rn. Trust me, even if our skills are quite good, the one from IIT/NIT will always have an edge. Be it offcampus placements or on campus. In fact , they get the opportunities of getting top jobs because companies pay higher salaries to them and also, on campus is slightly easier than off campus. Hence a person in NIT/IIT will definitely get more opportunities, be it on campus or off campus. This is a reality. People say negative things about these institutes, but deep down most engineering graduates want a good high paying job and yes, these institutes will give you a 10x better opportunity.
Most of the jobs are limited to the IT sector. In IIt's, most students who prepare for IT companies ( Please mark my words. I wrote that students who prepare for IT companies, not the CSE students) get placed at the end of the 2nd day or 3rd day of placement. For some other branches, the jobs are a little fewer. But if you are targeting the IT companies and preparing correctly, you will land a good-paying job. Yes, skills play an essential role over degree. But this doesn't mean that degrees play zero roles. IIT tag can give you a chance to stand out, but how you will take advantage of that chance depends on your skills. I agree that IIT does not mean success. There are different ways also, but IIT still gives you something. In my opinion, IIT means something other than success. IIT gives you opportunities and the stage, but how you perform depends on you. One more point that I want to address is that assume that there is an IAS person selected as a cricketer in the Indian team. And he is not performing well in the Indian team. His performance is poor. So does retain him makes a good point? Obviously no. The same thing happens when you will get a job after IIT. If you are not doing justice with your job, then how you can say that the IIT tag should protect me (Don't take it personally, not talking about a massive layoff). This is incorrect to say that IIT should defend my job. Why should IIT protect your job if you do not add value to the company? One thing that I disagree with is equality. They do justice with equality. You should get some relevant information about the placement session in IITs. I am impressed with the placement sessions and placement guidelines at IIT compared to other colleges. In one day, there are two slots. And the company will get slots depending on the package they offer and the company's tag. A student can get any number of offers in a particular slot but has to accept only one offer in that slot and take exit from the placement. For example, If a student gets placed in company 'y' and in the same slot he was placed in company 'z', then he has to take one offer and take exit from the placement so that every student will get a chance and the student already know that which company came in which day and which slot. And most good companies got early slots only. So there is no point in participating in further slots. This will not happen when you first get placed for TCS, but then you will get to know that Google is coming. This will never be going to happen. Depending on its tag, relations, and package, the company will get slots. So there is no harm in taking an offer from a slot and taking an exit so that every student will get a chance. In the video, you mention that company 'X' offers less package. This may be true. But this needs to be completed information. If company 'X' offers less package and is not well-reputed. The company 'X' will not get the early-day placement slots. It got a slot after 10-12 days. Till 10-12 days, most of the targetted student gets placed. What I mean by the targetted student is let's assume company 'X' is an IT company, so till 10-12 days, most students who prepare for IT company get placed. Only those students left who prepare significantly less or no preparation for the IT company. I am saying that those students are okay in study. I am saying maybe they did not prepare for the targetted role. The point that I want to add is you have to make a good balance between the college tag and specialization. You have to understand the jobs available in the market for that particular specialization, and if a job is available, will this college help me get the job? Don't think I got the tag, and that specific tag will do every good thing for me ( This is true for all the tags, not only IIT). Many of us think that story ends when you enter into IIT. But the reality is your story is just started.
In Pakistan, IIT considers a paragon. I remember our professors gave the example of IIT. Currently, Even though the students are facing problems to hunt the job after graduation from IIT. Yet the university is still proud of India.
Definitely the quality of Education in Old Five IITs + Guwahati IIT is the best. It can be compared with any Top Engineering Grad Schools of USA. But in India IITs or Universities are far behind in Pure Science and Mathematical Research.
@@rohanagarwal7880 Indian institutes were opened up by the USA to hire cheap labor and cut the cost. Pakistan was formed to provide political services to the USA.
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 I think you don't have the maturity level to understand what I wrote. Yeah, we are accustomed with MIT, Harvard, NYU, and Columbia. Many Pakistan graduated from world top class University. My comment was specifically for IIT.
IITs are not meant to guarantee jobs but they are guaranteed to give world class infrastructure and access to various exposures to the students. Itna hi kharab koi IIT k bare me sochta hai to private college se engineering kr le or fir open market me uska competition kisi IIT wale se bhi hoga...!!
Yes , the video is correct but I am also from IIT MADRAS , and yes only 5% of the students will grab the highest packages but students and parents as well as teachers should remember that the tough entrance exams were for admission into IITs and the probability of getting a job is simply result of one's presence of mind and the ability to handle all kinds of pressure
My brother is MTECH from IIT MADRAS IN Chemical Engineering he is jobless he lost job in 2 months now he prepare for Gate Exam after Mtech from IIT Madras to Get Job In PSUs
Bhai industry me job dekhne bolo, kuch softwares seekha hoga. Kuch toh in demand skill kiya hoga tho kuch na kuch mil jayega. Then he can prepare for Gate on the side. Time waste mat karo competitive exam keliye.
@@thedeshbhakt Thanks Akash sir please 🙏 make a same scratch o/r detailed vedio on AIIMS dream of Doctor becoming students it will help me alot THANK YOU AKASH SIR
as an IITian I can vouch for this!! The problem is the jobs are limited to the IT sector, hence circuital branches (CSE, EE, ECE) are the only ones to have great placements (yes we on average get more than 35LPA CTC) . We definitely have the best faculty however considering the market condition engineering has now become more about cracking the coding interviews and getting into IT sector irrespective of your core branch.
see, the thing with this AI takeover is obviously scary, but we must understand that everyone should do what they desire and emergence of a disruptive technology shouldn't hinder it, rather it should make it more exciting. I would advise you to let her do what her heart wants and she surely would be able to make you proud. Please don't loose your sleep over the AI saga.
I am from medical field which of course is underpaid. But main problem is that you can't switch pg seats if you don't like it's for you. If you leave that seat you have to pay big amount of money and would be shamed for wasting someone's seat. But in foreign countries students try different specialisations and find what's fit for them.
India mein sabse bda problem yeh bhi hai.... Shamed for wasting a seat.... I completely disagree with that.... Every one is living his own life with own dreams and aspirations.... I took admission in some prestigious college say AIIMS Delhi.... After completing course mbbs now I am no more interested in medical field.... Then ismein problem kya hai... I will do MBA and got into some MNC job.... Seat barbaad hone ka kya logic hua... Hum kya chori krke admission liye the.... Open competition k thru admission liye the phir mam kiya change of line of career ka toh change kr rhe hain..... Seat waste kyun hoga..... Hum apne life ko apne mja k saath jee rhe hain toh...
@@carpediem8533 bhai abhi abhi 17 saal ka ek ladka mere family mein class 12 k baad ias Krna chahta hai...... He asks me everything... I told him .... Now woh yeh bhi bol rha tha class 12 level pr jee advance ka alag craze hai.... Jab graduation 3 yr ka krenge toh 4 yr ka kr hi skte hain....... So after class he wants to do btech graduation and then. ... Civil services preparation.... Aur yhan aise aise gadhe hain jo bolenge jb finally civil services Krna hai toh btech kyun karein..... Are bhai tum Mt na kro.... Jo Krna chahta hai woh kre....usko apne mehnt pr krne do.... Civil services mein graduate in aniy discipline hai.... Engineering subject one of graduation papers hai.... Bhut logon ko pta bhi nhin hai.... Toh moorkh logon ka koi kmi nhin hai.... Agar uska civil nhin ho payega toh woh phir btech degre ko pvt MNC job mein use ka sonchega nhin toh phir thik hai.....
I am from one of the IIT, completed Master's in Chemical Engineering and got Rs 5 Lakh package in dec placement season. Later on few companies were offering better packages but I was not allowed to be interviewed as was already placed. Later on the company which gave me placement of 5 lakh per anum called me in their office and layed me off before joining😁, seems Rs 5 lakh was too much for them, they made a mistake.
I knew this already thats why ditched iit jammu mtech ece for mtech in iiit cse Iiit is one of few institutes which give admission to non cs folks for their CSE masters
Hi Akash, Thanks for the great episode as always - as an IIT graduate (2010), I resonate with your core message - the glossy pay figures of a few mask the overall picture. It was a similar situation in 2009-10 when I graduated. Wanted to make two comments as I have observed over the years: 1) Good salary offered by banks, consulting firms, and non-core jobs distorts the preferences of most students - kind of defeats the intent of establishing IITs to create engineering and research talent. This is a systemic issue which cant be fixed by the institutes - until core jobs become lucrative, good students will go for best-paying jobs irrespective of what they studied. 2) While immediate salary post-IIT might not be grand (10-16lac as you mentioned), the average earnings of an IITian over 10-15 years is a more appropriate lens to judge if IIT is worth the money/effort (and I would believe the answer is yes, as I have seen most of my batchmates, as I know, have done exceptionally well). That's where the brand and network effort starts to play. The challenge is this long term is easier said than considered - neither parents, nor students or media would look at this way - our human tendency is short-term/immediate reward thinking.
Sir, the generation today thinks that in the long run which you are talking about, everyone will be dead ! Actually it takes too much to get the degree these days as compared to what it was 15 years ago ...and waiting for that long is not worth it
I'm also an IIT graduate (1990), and I know many IITians and non-IITians for over 30 years, and I can say that over the long-term, universities don't matter at all. All that matters is the work that you do, and by extension, your work ethic, passion, creativity, and ability to get along with others. For example, I know a person who graduated from a Tier 3 college in India and is now VP of International Transactions at Citi in the USA, and Citi does not care where he graduated from. The biggest advantage that IITians have is not the education, but the network.
Same goes for IIM s. You have to skill yourself and learn techniques, do courses which will not necessarily be taught in class. After that do boot licking of placement committee to ensure maximum shortlists. After that too final placement is random, that is, not everyone gets the desired packages and good companies even after hard work.
Not sure if it’s a hidden detail , but I’m glad that you chose the national science day to explain the other side of issue…. Respectfully very impressed 👏🏻
I think you should also include data about how much people are going into IIM and UPSC just because they know that they are going to placed but for a iit tag they choose lower branch at a low AIR in JEE advanced and also they are many people from the branches you mentioned are opting for higher studies.
Most of those students don't apply for placements at all. Those who apply for placements and don't get any offer are counted as unemployed by the placement cell
Very well said Sir. The things you said about the necessity of soft skills were way too enlightening. These skills are indeed very important in todays time and scenario. In a world where AI and ML are making our lives easier we need to know the importance of those who use these these tools in the most justified and efficient manner.
Fascinating and highly informative as always. I have friends who are from IITs and NITs and sadly, this is true. I almost went into engineering but I followed my passion and created a 3D design and animation startup. I would love it if Akash has time to cover the animation, game design and vfx fields as well, because a lot of people are highly skilled, passionate and dedicated artists who deserve a good compensation and career, but unfortunately it is very much ignored in our country, where India has the largest outsourcing work for Hollywood movies and video games.
Hey! Deshbhakt talks about how lower branch people in IITs end up getting 10lpa-16lpa but is it really true? I just saw the placement stats and even Ceramic in IIT BHU has avg 23+ LPA . It's crazy. Similarly, no branch in IIG has median less than 18lpa. This is so contradictory! What have your friends got to say about it?
@@r65400 firstly u were fooled my those coaching media crooks sister and the data presented by deshbhakt is 100% legit as i have crosschecked from my friend's college placement data. Moreover get out of those fake media outlets + ceramics and non circutal lower branches has negligible placements
@@vaishali.1801 Anpadh hai kya bhai tu? Khud jaake dekhle official stats "Tune maal phuka hai". This tells about your level of education and common sense, dude! Ffs you got eyes , go and check yourself. Sucha creep
I graduated from IIT Roorkee in 2020 and did my bachelor's in Production and Industrial Engineering and can I affirm the points that you have raised here, there is more shocking news that I can tell you regarding the time we were there, we actually wanted the IIT to close our program, it should be a shock because the course and curriculum hasn't been updated for a very long time, even if they update these courses there aren't any faculties that can teach them, i.e why it is one of the main reasons why IIT students don't prefer higher studies from IIT, Akash even if you do this data analysis that for the IIT's , majority of the profs that are hired don't have the domain knowledge regarding the subject they teach and aren't even with a good education background which is one of the reason. Thanks for making this video you don't know how many students are actually suffering by taking these branches.
I am also from an IIT. I am disagree from this point that IIT's prof does not have good educational background. For securing a prof. job in IIT's they have to spend atleast 7 years of research (PhD+PostDoc). It may be that they are not a good teacher but it is not the case that they don't have good educational background.
Kuch bhi IIT proff ka study background check karna most of them has done their PhD,MS from the best universities like MIT , standford ,Caltech so you can't judge their education qualification they might be bad teacher but not a bad researcher wase tumne yeh baat likhi hai Mero ko ajeeb lagi kyuki sabhi iit students ko Pata hai ki unki education background kitni sahi hoti hai I don't think you are from an IIT
@@r65400 bro that's your fault that u are not preapred for advanced aur jaha that rat race ki baat hai it is there in china ,korea , Singapore and japan as well
@@r65400 hey can you please tell which college is that ? (asking cuz I too gave mains this year and got similar percentile) ( I have a knack you might be from Delhi region..)
IITan from Madras, the content is to the point and absolutely true. Only CSE grad gets the good package, which makes headlines. Also on numerous occasions, companies withdraw offers after providing a joining letter (it happened with my mates, Flipkart had withdrawn the offer). Overall it is nice to get admission to IIT, but it's not the end of the world.
Hey! I am a jee aspirant and getting nits/iiits but never prepared for jee advanced. I am regretting because according to stats even ceramic branch in IIT BHU has avg package 23+ LPA which is too much for a lower branch. In IIT GUWAHATI, no branch had median package of less than 18 LPA. If this is the case, why do people say that majority of people fall in 10-18 lpa category and that lower branches do not get good placements?
Umm as a jee aspirant who couldn't clear jee (as i think i can't 😂) the preparation of jee give you some sort of ability to bear pressure and to work hard which is more important than to go in college So if you do not doing any productive things in 11th and 12th so it's good to prepare for it and face the harsh reality and competation 😂 i know i will not get iit/nit
The best strategy to develop a career is choosing a career and building skills around it by yourself, build a portfolio, solve open problems. The jobs would come to you. I was a student at an NIT and I thought I was among cream, but when I landed a job at Reliance Jio . I found people from local engineering colleges doing the same stuff with same salary, thats when I realized joining IIT NIT rat race was a waste of time and building real skills which job market needs matter. I took this learning to advice my younger sibling to join an easier private college that provided scholarship. Presently he is in US at the same place where I am. I wish internet and social media awareness was at current level as are available now
Also you don’t need to join any paid sessions, all the information is free on RUclips and platforms like edX & coursera. You don’t need any certifications. Doing real life projects on websites like github , tableau are better than certifications which anybody can buy nowadays
From NIT Rourkela cse branch (rejected IITs lower branches) Every stated point is true but the real problem lies with the profs too ,they really don't wanna teach.We watch RUclips videos for almost every other subject to pass exams .
Bro if I join lower branch of nit Rourkela will I get ample of time to study cs and crack placement through myself and complete the studies of lower branch parallely???
I am MBA. When I was drawing a handsome salary and funding my engineering friends, today after 15 years, all are earning more than me, well above me. It might be a little struggle in the starting, but anyone aspiring for IITs, should not get demotivated coz of this video. Getting into IIT Or IIM does not makes your whole life comfortable. Life is a struggle.
Good one AB! Another classic case to demonstrate, How People rise to their level of incompetence and then amplify more incompetence by sharing their incompetence as knowledge through a crippled educational system!
Happy holi , Akash sir. I'm preparing for IIT and I was like waiting for this sort of a video. Feeling relaxed after watching the grey shades of IITs.😁👍
Very well said, Akash! However, I want to mention that intelligence is evenly distributed among all individuals, and it ultimately depends on how one utilizes it. I am speaking on behalf of individuals who did not attend IITs. I have observed many engineers who are preparing for bank jobs or receiving computer training, including IIT students. Therefore, one should not label IIT students as the cream of society because one day they may have to compete with someone who did not attend an IIT. Additionally, even Indian CEOs in the US did not necessarily graduate from IITs. Many obtained additional MBA degrees or computer training, and 99% of individuals working overseas did not attend IITs and earn similar salaries to IIT graduates. Nowadays, attending top colleges is not essential, but possessing a basic degree and expertise in a sought-after software such as AI or machine learning can take you to great heights. This message is not intended to discourage IIT students or their parents but to inspire all others. As Akash stated, skill-based education plays a crucial role in shaping our future.
Not generalizing but to some extent, teachers are guiding students to get marks and not understanding the subjects better. Recently I listened to Nobel laureate Mr.Abhijit Banerjee talking about the Indian education system that a 5th class student doesn't know to solve a problem with 3rd class books. This is why more students are migrating to study abroad
Hi Akash/Team, The video is very true. Can you please also make another video on the research scenario in IITs. Focusing on how IITs are run like a cartel? Getting a job at an IIT as a professor is almost impossible. Also, the focus is always on quantity rather than the quality of papers published. The procurement of lab equipments is also filled with corruption.
I studied in tier 3 college, my hostel friend in mechanical who was average student and even failed in some subjects went to UK for masters and then doctorate and is in research field now.. The potential of an average student to succeed in foreign country even tho he was week in studies shows how behind India is. Too much competition and very little jobs is killing the future of millions of Indians
Yes , the Indian Education system only wants students to rattafication, memorizing a lot of things, and taking loads of things which are not important , We students are chasing IIT,JEE, because all of the students are giving IIT ,JEE and not seeing other exams,skills and not focus on the main Points i.e., SKILLS. The main point of stress in Todays Student is our Indian Education system , Our society says to us that You have to crack,iit,jee but they don't think what a student wants to become. So Students to live in the world without stress follow your dreams and not see what others are chasing off. If we take an example of the German Education System ,the student follows his own dream . So Don't Take Stress 🙏.
This video is about Btech in IITs. The situation is even worse for MTech, Msc and PhD courses at IITs. Being from one of newer IITs. In our time in MSc(19-21) , only 1 student got placed out of 31, that too with 6 lac package.
I preparing for IIT not for Job But For the Great Exposure Of the world ...... Because there are many clubs to develop your Skills. And a friend Company and Hostel Life.. Job Is secondary For The Students Who have the ability to Crack IIT ..
sir I am from class 11th and pagal after IIT so I checked out for your video to know about it from thumbnail and I was actually satisfied so thank you very much for this information 👍👍
I am studying MSC in mathematics (IIT DELHI) fee structure of msc,phd, Mtech research like courses is very high and hiked upto more than 150% even after covid situation . If govt don't support us for research then how can we move for phd . Because even in phd fellowship is too much low and must be revised earlier as possible . Please raise our issues 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@kushagrapaliwal5365 Bohot se aam engineering students ko 20 25000 ki nokri laga gayi to BOHOT badi baat hoti hay bhy ek middle class family ke liye. Agar IIT se 7 to 10 L ki nokri matlab 60 se 80000 ki nokri lagi to it's quite a fat sum of money for a middle class guy.
as a jee aspirant i can confirm that there is a lot of pressure from homes for getting into iits after my class 10th I wanted to opt for physics as i was exceptionally good at it but later in 11th i discovered that i am also having deep interest in economics so i said to my parents that i wanted to pursue my studies further in economics my father said i cant feed you forever you need to earn as soon as possible so you need to get into iits and in this january attempt i secured 97 percentile good enough to get me a seat into an nit now that my dad is pretty much sure about my engineering he said that after getting into collage he want me to get into UPSC preparation i am interested in geopolitics and economics but i don't wanna get into IAS preparation NOW MY FATHER SAYS BETA FOR US MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE OUR PRESTIGE IS EVERYTHING IMAGINE HOW HAPPY WE WILL BE WHEN YOU WILL BECOME IAS but no one asks me what i want to do with my life
Brother, stay strong, atleast you'll be proud of yourself that you did what your father asked you to. Getting 97 percentile isn't a piece of cake, your father must be proud of you, think of their happiness. You can explore a lot of different things when you get into an IIT or any college that you will join.
@Meena Empire Garmi ki chuutiya hoti hai badi lambhi, bacche ho jaate hai bade bore, toh samajhna yeh hota hai bada mushkil kya kre kya kre? Jaise ki Coaching me pdhna, Pw ko OP kehna aur IIT ki videos dekhna😭😭
well, being in IIT and studying the courses I can fully relate this. I know IITs are best but it is because of the students who makes the IITs worth it. I think administrators should think of upgrading the curricular and also focus on Research opportunities.
This was true 20 years ago when I did it 20 years ago.. and I made a good decision to find job in IT. it's better to do engineering in a area where there are jobs rather then institutions
I failed in 5th standard, I failed in 9th again In 10th somehow I got 53% In 12 I got, 44%, yes you read it right. I was never a bright student. Somehow I managed to get into BSC computers (I was getting place in electronics but I realised, in computers I dont have to mug up/learn by heart as I cannot do that since childhood) I was good in logical ability and C/C++ After BSC somehow managed to enter MCA, brushed up my ability to write good code. Infact I was one of few students in my class (full of 70-90% throughout students) who used to implement the practical code programs and whole class use to copy it. Got placed in a small company in campus interview (as this company was not having any bar on academic percentage which anyways I never had) Now its been 15 years in software development and doing well and earning package more than 50LPA. I regret those wasted 2 years in my school, how can I be so dumb to not pass 5th standard ? Anyways ... Not writing this msg to praise myself, its just to say 'Kabil bano kamyabi jhak mara ke ayegi' and never ever feel demotivated in any phase of your life, believe in yourself. We live only once!!
Currently in 12th grade, I've decided to take a different route than the traditional JEE preparation. Instead, I've devoted my time to mastering C, C++, and Python, and delving into the basics of Kali Linux. I firmly believe that working hard on honing these skills for over 2 years will pave the way for promising job opportunities. It's my unique journey towards self-improvement, and I'm excited about the endless possibilities it holds. Here's to charting our own paths and embracing the journey of personal growth!
100% agreed IIT's being the gems of our country Still lacks in research, our top institute IIT BOMBAY is at 62nd position in world rankings in research, we surely need to upgrade
I am a PhD from IIT Delhi, currently a postdoc in US. The scientific acumen of Indian researchers is actually pretty good. Research in India cannot compete with the west easily mainly because research is a luxury, the amount of money thrown into research in US mainly by national science foundation, defence agencies, corporates etc cannot be matched by India. Also, feel free to disagree, the majority of people at DRDO and scientific bodies are incompetent mainly because they are majorly selected without research experience. You cannot fill-in scientist positions with people having just masters and limited research experience. Secondly, just by having a US university affiliation in my author list, the value of research paper and chances of acceptance after peer review shoots up. There is a bias inherent which can only be broken by international collaborations. Another major difference is the mindset, in US and the west, people want to do the best work and believe that they can. In India, atleast the older generations of prof. always competed only for the second and third level of international journals and research outputs. Complicated scenario which can only improve over time.
Making an episode about an Institute that you respect is not easy - tried to stick to hard data - that shows a worrying trend. Really touched with so many IIT alumni reaching out that sharing their story and the fact that too much is expected out of a IIT Graduate.
Hope this episode helps in a little way.
Though not many - did manage to draw a few smart comments that enquired about my educational qualifications ... not that it matters - but here goes:)))))
Schooling - La Martiniere College
Graduation - Hindu College
Masters - St.Stephens
MSc - Got admission into Boston University (but dad didn't have 40+ lakh to spare:)))
Had the privilege of studying in the best school / colleges of India - But had to work my butt off in the media sector - no godfather - no alumni support - just kept up-skilling and learning on the job.
the only problem ye hai is video me ke aplog bus video bna dete hai news article ka basis pe na kisi unemployed student se bat krne ka kosis krte hai na kuch... pucho to sahi ke kya kya problem hame hai.. dekho fir real sch pta chalega...
Kota tho gyo 🤣
Medical walon mein bhi banaye ek video
Sir please make video on casteism in IIT
Agar koi ladka 12 ke baad padne ke liye bahar jata hai to use pata hi nahi hota ki wo kon sa course le ouur usss course ka future kyaa hai use aane wale samaay me use field ki jyada jarurat hai market me ya nahi.
All students are confused in India about how to choose best course for his life, for study, for money and for future
I am from one of these IITs and I can confirm all these are true. There are a few more factors even within the course and curriculum structure that effect the students. The reality in media and society is completely different from what's on ground
Sir how is startup culture in iit ?
@@iitjee2024target shutting down with full force ..startups r ones who r sacking more than 70% while Google,twitter r laying off only 20%
Startup survival is make or break stage now
Startup culture is encouraged, but is very small. The majority mindset is still and always pushed to be placement. It's very few students maybe 3-4 percent who willingly take the risk to go beyond and do something different.
No u r not
nah the problem is even after they are from IITs they take irrelevant courses like Metallurgical Engg, Material Engg, Ocean Engg, etc and stay jobless, they should choose CSE, ECE, Civil and other popular courses that are relevant in Job market. Although I'm a BCA passout from a Tier-3 college currently working, I'm lucky I didn't waste my time taking stupid courses.
I'm not from IIT, (ECE from Tier 3 College).
But right from the beginning, I was interested in Software Development.
I did lot of courses in the same, did projects, increased my rating in Competitive Programming.
Finally grabbed International Offer!!
With my experience, I can confidently say that, in the present world, you don't need an IIT degree to be successful.
"IIT degree" acts as a catalyst for your success but absence of it doesn't make you a failure.
Just focus on your skills, be a top player of the game.
Your college, your degree, your grades, your branch doesn't matter.
The journey is tough but sure is worth rewarding.
hey i am dropper and worried about college, which college u were from?
@@intelloenfant3110 iam also dropper 🙃
Bhaiya kis college se the aap
Imtiyaz Ji what you say is very true. I’m a retired ObGyn Prof and I graduated from a Tier 2 institution and taught all my 30y of working life in a Tire 3 Med Coll and I can with confidence say I did better teaching than the Tire 1 Med Coll colleagues and my students have done better than anybody. The IITs & AIMS only prepare Engineers & Doctors for the west.
Agree completely!
I moved to USA to pursue PhD after graduating from IIT. The difference is day and night when it comes to work culture and treatment towards students. Students have freedom to pursue courses of their interest and are respected by their professors here in USA while in India we still live in the age where professors bully students for reasons I never understood.
Me too at Germany basically I also doesn't like the infrastructure of Indian education system
Professor bullying students I can related to it
just don't agrees with professor theory I got F 😇😇my whole GPA go down coz of that F.
never will forget that A** hole face in my life
Tushar bhai need some help... Im working as srf in iitd... I have heard that us phd is more rewarding than german phd but time taken is more...
Is it true?
Work culture is bad in US as well.
I have worked in US , UK ,IndiaAustralia...frankly except Australia it's crappy culture everywhere
@@spellcheck5393I guess it depends on the team, your lead and managers. I have worked in both US and India and I have had good experiences at both places. Whereas many of my Indian friends are glad to be in US because they were overworked, under paid and unappreciated in India. Everyone has different experiences.
As a fellow IIT graduate with a specialization in Mechanical Systems, I can totally relate to the dilemma of whether or not IITs are still worth it. After clearing GATE 2019, I had high hopes of doing excellent research and finding a job where my skills would be valued. However, after two years of hard work and a CGPA of 9.5/10, during the placement, I was offered a position of graduate trainee with a package of 10 lakh per annum. Although this was the highest pay for many of my batchmates who wanted to continue in the core sector, I ended up rejecting the job offer and pursuing my PhD in artificial intelligence and renewable energy in France. I must say, it has been a way more rewarding experience than I ever imagined. So, to answer the question "Are IITs still worth it?", it totally depends on your aspirations and the path you want to take.
There is no Industry in India. What do u expect?? U work in a heavy engineering firm in India which will have only domestic demands, i.e in country demands.... It's no Hyundai heavy engineering, Boosan, GE, Semens, which have international monopoly.... Germany has 4-5 big firms itself along with smaller firms, India has just TATA, that's it. What do u expect???
After EEE from IIT, what are the ways to upgrade oneself to remain relevant for the upcoming market?
@@rabindrakumar3861 I think the domain knowledge of EEE you will gain from IIT will always be relevant but you should definitely up skill yourself by learning machine learning and popular programming language
What should be your market value or job aspects after your complications of phd degree?
@@iron_007 zero 😂😂. Phd are just for academic position, usually they don't have a very high value in the market compared to a masters guy or someone with similar level of industrial experience
Not only IIT courses need to be re evaluated. But the entire education system in India needs to be re evaluated. Our Education system should encourage minds with problem solving skills rather than focusing on minds with memory keeping skills. This is something we will be talking about in the coming times but I'm happy people have begun to address the issue starting from IIT.
True ❤😊
An IITian here. The content of this video is absolutely true. No doubt that IITs do office some security in terms of job, salary, quality education and networking. However the amount of pressure that students go through during preparation is not worth all that. I appeared for IIT-JEE for the first time in 2015, but couldn't clear it. I was so much depressed. My world turned upside down. I used to cry at nights. However I gathered courage and started preparing again and luckily cracked JEE in 2016. God knows what I would have done if I didn't clear JEE in 2016 either. Now when I look back I feel that I was depressed for no reason. Most of my colleagues and seniors in my company are non-IITians. And they are also as intelligent as I am (or probably more 😅). They are earning at par with me. If you are a JEE aspirant, do remember that going to an IIT is great but not at the cost of your happiness and mental health.
@khansir6826the fuck is up with you lol. Fake account. Pehle gyaan choda fir guidance manga
Same colleagues are from all type of schools.
All are salaried employees forced to work 9am to 10 pm and keep crying to change jobs but don't cuz of pay.
hello what kind of courses have they done bro ?
hello bro what kind of courses and skills have they taken bro?
Took 2 year drop for NEET & my experience was the same. Won't recommend it to anyone (especially if they've mental health issues. Tbh, phases like these break even the strongests) unless they're REALLY passionate about it.
NOTHING is more important than your physical & mental health.
The problem is even if you introduce new courses in colleges the teachers don't know how to teach these new courses properly.
Grim revelation.
that is not the case, faculties in IITs are highly qualified in their respective subjects, the thing is there is no need of these new subjects in the real market, when only thing they need is CS engineer.
Professional college is for helping to understand the fundamentals in deeper and cleaner manner. Once your fundamentals are clear you yourself need to work on new courses technologies. This new courses will be based on industry demands and the industry changes in every 5-6 year time. If you are skillful and your fundamentals are strong you can learn any thing new at any time. Please note, professional colleges are not a placement cell.
Earning well and finding hot wife is more important.
Follow passion when stomach is filled.
Just prepare for good Govt job.
Exactly
Being a student at Motion has made me realize the true importance of getting into IIT-it's the gateway to a brighter future😄😄💪
The truth is that Indian society views IITs just as a ticket to a 1cr package and a job in Silicon valley, and not as institutes that further humanity. Until that mentality won't change, we will never progress
True they never think to learn more into technology or explore new fields.
achaaa chomu
do you know about total startups from iit ?
@@grey301k Le be. ak aur iitian
@@TestCraft007 🤣🤣🤣😁
abe chomu job hi nhi milegi toh progress kaise karenge?? 1Cr nhi toh kam se kam dhanka package toh mile.
I spent 4 years of my life in IIT Bombay. I think there are lot of opportunities apart from doing graduation from IIT. Less than 5 percent students get satisfied after completing there graduation from IITs. So be careful before to make IIT as your dream.
😨
what do you do bro?
Can u name a few
@@mayankmehta9333 😂😂
@@mayankmehta9333 u wanna ask for opportunitues?
i am also an ECE engineering Student ( VIT vellore ).
this is verry serious problem for any of our indian engineering colleges and manufacturing industries .
if you see or hear then there is only large number of IT jobs but very less core engineering Job .
this indicate that there is very less manufacturing industry in our country.
My friend is also from VIT and did ECE. He's doing a 13LPA IT job which he got by preparing for Computer programming and problem solving. Jobs in mechanical, chemical, civil are very very less when compared to the number of students
True.
Hi, is it just about lack of jobs in other sectors or also about the lack of niche and applied courses provided by Indian universities?
As someone who has been working in the study abroad industry, I am amazed by the kinds of niche and practical programs universities offer abroad. I believe India needs to grow in research, higher ed opportunities which would contribute to the growth and establishment of new industries.
The courses covered in VIT in non-IT Engineering are not adequate. This is my experience and observation of VIT.
If you are above average, you can crack government exams for core. Trust me, my seniors from core branch have cracked those exams, just studying 2 hours daily from 2nd year. Competition is less when you know your syllabus
I was a State ranker..Failed to get seat at IIT...Had to go for Only Diploma Course due to family & financial problems, Done some basic jobs like sweeper, typing etc.. during education..some relatives (some are billionaire) doesn't even want to see my face.however I was tried to learn business methods too..after 10 years results on business comes ..Profits reached 10cr first time in history.
Moral : Never Give up !
Bhai mai kaise manu?
story acchi hai
Wtf👁️👄👁️😂😂
Kuch bhi
Bhai sahab agar too 10 crore kma rha hota to yanha aane ki koi jaroorat nhi thi ...
Being an IITian , I can say that most of the people who don't get jobs are the once who don't sit for placements and opt for higher studies. Also many students don't score bare minimum cgpa for sitting for placements. So yes , competition is even more after going into an IIT too , because everyone has come after cracking one of the worlds toughest exams. It doesn't makes sense saying if you get IIT you will be successsfull. You need to grind even more , and that is a fact.
Basically business is best because there is atleast possibility of being well off but yeah anyways
Those percentage were of eligible students
Most likely chemical mechanical aeronautical branch
Mister, You're forgetting that cgpa is relative to other students so there will be some students who won't be able to sit for placement anyways.
Bro mare friend ve iit b sa ha aerospace engineering kiya ha but unplaced ha 😏😏 job nahi mile
In 2020 I gave GATE Exam and secured a rank of 5000, and took admission in Jadavpur University. I thought that since it was such a prestigious university in Kolkata the course for Mtech in CSE would also be very good. But after joining I came to know that it was very outdated, and the main focus of the entire course was on the theoritcal subjects and the teaching method of most of the faculty were below par. After continuing for a semester I decided to drop off. Even the de-registration process was very challenging as most of the task was to be performed offline. Nothing happens online there.
Welcome to outdated bengal and shame on you for wasting a seat.
What are you doing right now??
@@AdrianOsta I don't know if you are aware of the current scenario of India, but none of the colleges are able to fill their seats with Mtech students except the top tier IIT and IIITs. Same was the case for JU. We had a batch strength of 30 out of which 23 was filled and even in that 3 of us left in the mid way. Next time onwards check the facts and then make some useless comments.
@@Specsy2004 Mtech from IIIT
@@subhambasuroychowdhury9698 damn bhai
Merse toh jee clear nahi hori :( inspite of taking drop
Bhot demotivating feel hota
But Dekhte
Best of luck brother aage ke liye
I can tell about situation in 31 NITs across India. NITs are thought of as 2nd grade institutions if IITs are thought of as 1st grade institutions. I was PhD fellow in mathematics in NIT Durgapur and i saw people after Mtech doing PhD in their disciplines. I asked couple of engineering students why are doing PhD after Mtech, why don't do job ? Their answers were "companies are offering 20k salary per month, it is better to join PhD where you get monthly 31k fellowship better than 20k job". The job situation of engineering students is very disappointing
True
@@sanjeevkumarnitrourkela6637 Bhai aur jo package bade bade dikhate hain unka kya ??
@@amiyanayak8823 wo sirf kuch percentage of students ke hote he bhai wo bhi jo cs ee ece branch me hote he generally
@@avengers888 agreed 👍🏼
But my dad thinks iit mai gaya to life set hai...😭😀😂
IITans are successful not because of IIT, but because the students who go there are genuinely hardworking and consistent students. These qualities also help them in life ahead. People, companies know this fact hence they try to give these students the opportunities they deserve. Hence the hard working nature and consistency of the student gives them success not IIT entirely.
👍
I'm searching for this positive vibes comment
Exactly crct👍...
bro iit has still unemployment
Only general candidates. Getting into IIT despite of state based apartheid is really commendable and such students are the one who are high package grabbers.
I am in class 10th and seriously this video chills me... though I haven't thought much about going to an IIT but can guess that other sectors are going through the same fate. I always wanted to learn new skills and will surely boost that up after this.
If you wanna do CA by opting commerce
It's best option
Since ICAI which is organisation of CA
Offered 12000 jobs
And there were 10000 CA qualifiers
Meaning CA has more demand and less supply
Just before you make up your mind to choose commerce for CA, as suggested by the user above, make sure you watch videos of CA mentors and meet CA aspirants.
And don't forget to read about the passing percentage of CA final, even inter.
Chutiye tu aa bhi nhi payega iit me ....aur naa tere jaise soch walo ka yahn par koi koi kaam hai
@कार्तिक मलिक [जाट] as far as I know till +2, you can't pursue chemistry without maths
Choose any stream you're interested in and just make sure to analyse the career options available after completing graduation.
@कार्तिक मलिक [जाट] totally depends on your interest. It's quite a subjective decision
Sit down with paper and pen, make mind map, take help of quora and YT, and choose according to your liking. I can't give you that, that's your job
Hello Akash.......I am a doctor,currently an aspirant for NEET PG. I would like you to emphasis on the current state of young doctors in our country. As per a RTI reply by National Medical Commission, in the last 5 years, 64 UG and 55 PG students have committed suicide. 150 UG students and 956 PG doctors have dropped out of the college due to various reasons. The cost of medical education in India, the quality of training and the enormous amount of workload coupled with imbalance in UG/PG seats. I would urge you to make a separate video on this topic so that common people can understand the irony of medical education in India.
This is fu$king indian education system its sucks 😕😐
True.. I am also a doc, NEET pg aspirant. And the way we r being treated like shit by NMC, judiciary is pathetic. I think MBBS degree is too much overrated in our society, just like IIT. Many students go into it coz they don't knw wht other options r for bio. The field is highly toxic, interns r made to wrk like donkeys, and also the increasing violence against us by patients. No one is ready to listen.. Many of my frnds r contemplating of leaving the country jst for a better working environment.. Everything is soo mismanaged. I finished MBBS frm highly reputed.govt college, got good marks in 12th, topped in bio.. I couldn't clear neetpg and whatever I studied went into waste due to this recent postponent saga. And the added pressure of marriage.. I m losing my mind.. Despite working hard all my life since childhood.. I m here, a Grand Failure. I advice juniors not to take MBBS just coz people say u will get settled.. It will take long time to settle, and if u take mbbs, thn try to go to foreign for Pg.. My strong advice.
I agree
True , after rigorous study for 4.5 yrs and sleepless internship for a year , gaining all knowledge for primary care doctor. When I asked for job in hospitals they said 30k per month for 12 hrs duty , I was shocked !! They said ayurvedic doctors do at 20k we want just white coat to sit hospital in night so people think we are giving 24hr service.
Its not the case in engineering if your talented you get hired and paid.
Fellow NEET PG aspirant here bro, I was just going to type the same. No body is held accountable for the injustice and suicides. No fair working hours for residents.
Bro, Will you please make a video on INDIAN DOCTORS also?? Please do a research on how is the life of aspiring doctors and those who have become doctors or have joined Post graduation courses and committing suicide even before appearing to Competitive exams and giving up their lives and also increasing crimes on doctors & Jobs offered to doctors. NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS ISSUE . looking forward for you to speak on that !
Yes, for fmge students also
@@niiikkkk1668 medico is a medico, be it an Indian graduate or foreign graduate. Politics me already divide and rule chal raha hai, yahan na kariye. Unity is the best. NEXT implementation ke bad waise b sab equal hi hone wala hai! So please. 🤗
Mbbs doctor even not getting 10 lakh salaries....
very true. they have to give NEET-pg. sirf mbbs karke toh jobs lagti hi nhi hai
Good suggestion.
I'm not IITian but got a placement with 12 LPA in Accenture as Business Development Associate after completing BBA from a tier 2 college bcz of my soft and market demand skills which I learned from udemy.
@@shivagupta9825 thanks brother🥰
Bhag
@@physics232bro IIT ka tag Kam nhi aata hai
@@war_mvp wo abhi class 11-12 ka hoga aur shorts mai iit's ki highest package dekhta hoga
Bhai kon sa bba college tha aapka
As an IITian myself, I think one of the biggest problems isn't that of IIT, but the sheer lack of jobs for any other core field other than Computer Science (or maybe even Electronics). For the remaining branches, one may think that there must be some opening, cause if there weren't any jobs then why on earth would these departments even exist, right? But the fact of the matter is that virtually nobody in these branches actually takes a job in their own specialization (even if they do, it's because they weren't getting anything else). Also, as academics in IITs is much more rigorous and difficult compared to any other external institute, it's tougher for IITians that students from other colleges to study the courses from their own specialization, whilst also studying Computer Science for their placements in Software engineering firms.
That leaves students from these branches with just 2 options - study in their own specialization and work hard to get a menial low-paying job, or some further education (if you have the money to fund it, ofc); or ditch their specialization entirely to study Computer Science for Software firms. Most people would clearly choose the second option, which works out generally. However, this year was much different as the global tech recession caused most Software firms to virtually freeze all placements.
This has caused far worse placements than usual, as if we exclude high-paying trading firms, IBs and HFTs (none of which are related to engineering, btw), very very few companies actually paid a hefty salary for the to-be graduates. This recession has sent shockwaves even to junior batches, most of whom have essentially shifted their focus entirely from Computer Science to fields like Finance, Consulting, Management and Trading; none of which are related to engineering in any way.
If anything, IITs' placements stats show that the domain of engineering itself isn't nearly as secure a domain in the job market as once thought to be. My prediction is that in the coming years, more and more IITians would join IIT just for the sake of it, whilst completely immersing themselves in studying Management-related fields for Finance and Consulting positions.
but cant there be recessions in finance jobs also?
How do you know someone's from IIT? They'll tell you. Literally no one mentions their alma mater unless they're an IITian.
The main problem is, India is a country of job seekers and not job providers.
It's completely true
I was also I.T student but by God grace or something i switched my faculty on time
As result i saved lots of money, needed time and most important mental peace
Today i am soft skill trainer and writer with healthy mind
Lastly i urge all you who are reading this please don't ignore your mental health
Absolutely!
Salam walekum Zehra gf banoge
middle class student dont have these option sir
@@NicolasAlvesDias same bro i am also very concern about my mental health but i do not have any other thing to do than preparing for IIT
@@NicolasAlvesDias everyone has option it's your how you opted it. Just try to convince parents
Tomorrow is my jee advanced exam and I now I am watching this😂😂
Oh bhai konsi. Iit mili phir
Plzz bhai guide me I am jee aspirant 2025
@@PrashantSawle-w5n bhai iit hyderabad mila
Aur konsa branch
Zaki_numan35 meri id hai follow karo
I never got placed when I completed my Master's in IIT Madras, which even led to me being suicidal. It has taken at least 1.5 years of therapy to recover from that. Eventually, I shifted away from Civil Engineering because of low job demand. I re-skilled myself as a software developer (I was able to do that because of my privilege to some extent), to get a good job and even now I am underpaid, despite highly specialized nature of my job (requires competency in engineering, computer science and Math). I still wish I should have gone to Europe or USA or Canada. No wonder India has so much brain drain. We simply don't have respect for highly skilled employees, especially, but not limited to, ones from engineering background. I love engineering a lot and I think a lot of students too, but struggle for getting admission and then failing to get a job really hurts the morale of students. No wonder India has so many suicide attempts among students.
EDIT: Also, there is a fundamental issue of not many entrepreneurs rising in India, for the simple reason that our education stifles the creativity of student. I think the reasons are far too deep than represented in the video. India simply does not know how to use the vast range of talents present among the students. For example, I always wanted to work in space agency, specifically to develop computational tools. However, I cannot do that in ISRO because first, they don't take experienced engineers (because they want to take only through an exam, which apparently our govt thinks is more fair and there is also an age limit) and second, the kind of work I have to do in ISRO is decided by my specialization and not my interests (because governments have decided a career path according to specialization without any flexibility). This further stifles creativity of people. That is the reason our research institutes don't contribute too much in any sector and research is generally stagnant, because there is no value to the new ideas and no funding for ideas. Because there is no funding, no ideas are executed and no new companies are created and hence, not a whole lot of jobs. Indian industries depend a lot of international products/companies because we simply don't have funding to fund ideas of our own. For example, the almost entire IT industry depends on international contracts to earn money, very, very few companies have products of their own. One I know of is Byju's, which provides a service of very dubious utility to it's customers, in my opinion. We hardly try to develop new technologies, products or services, if at all.
Sorry, for the long essay, but the issue is very, very nuanced and lies in the flawed foundations on which education system is laid out here.
It's not respect, if all run for jobs who will create business and employ them. It's youth fault only. We have to compete with foreign country people in business then only people will be employed.
I agree to the fact that there is shortage in the entrepreneur mindset in India.
Bingo!!!
Civil engineering has low prsopects of job dude... software ka dekho...
So true. Even the IITians who get lucrative jobs in united states are not getting them as engineers but as MBAs. No creativity nurtured at IIT.
IISERs producing world class research scientists in pure science, IITs producing IAS, CEO of tech companies and IIM students.
Ganesh sir is a gem, he is one of the best scientists in India ever produced.
@@kripanichand9543 he is god 🙏 and also you forgot about CN RAO (great chemist).
India need more research institutes like IISER and IISC , no need of IIT and IIM For Excel sheet jobs .
@@Riyanparag_discoraza Problem is with students, because no one want to study physics , chemistry and maths.
USA paying 300k dollars base pay to computational chemist/physicist. India pays peanuts to them if we compare them with software engineers.
@@kripanichand9543 is true, many students don't have any awareness about the research job market .
Europe is paying 7k euro per month for a fresh PhD graduate in chemistry, while India pays 50k per month salary.
I guess IISER /IISC will Rule india in future.
Aakash, I am from IIM. Thank you for bringing the suicide agenda. Being a mother, it scares me to think - what's the use of the education if it compels students to take such extreme steps. These places are very very good at creating Intelligent money minting bots. So, lets not expect compassion. Please do understand these students have reached the top just by focusing on themselves, focus focus & focus. We have not been taught to think about others and we have not learnt too. So, how can you expect anything else? Exceptions are there but very rare.
Mam not only suicide I have known about a grape attempt by prof on his phd student, after which he was removed and ordered not to come near the Institute and the student's degree was put on hold. This never comes out in to the public, everything is hidden. And the profs, most of them are not even humble when u ask them normal questions, either they don't know stuff and they don't teach it well, if they have some knowledge they are extremely rude always thinking of ways to bully u.
You are absolutely correct, I've seen a lots of cases that education and banner is Just a ladder to build up one's future but qualified thinking, dedication,devotion and patience to acquire is much important, we the parents shouldn't create pressure, Just to motivate the children simultaneously we should listen and understand their minds and capacity,parents का प्यार, मोह का बंधन में बच्चे खो जतें हैं,
This will continue If aim of higher education is only gaining big package job/s in InterNational Companies... Overall development is Missing.. People are not able to focus on themselves well too.. they dont know how to keep themselves mentally & physically fit.. ( very basic requirement of life )..
I had always thought that going IIT that bigger things and now i realised that your skill is more than important your degree and I heard that once you would get IIT then you enjoy your life you don't need study more but that time is important for learning. I am happy to seeing that people are seeing talent not degree.
Yes i agree too i also secured a decent rank in jee but i agree upon ut opinion
India and Indians have been looking at institutions like IITs through the wrong lens. Their counterparts in the US, like MIT, Harvard etc, are not looked at as factories that create workers for mundane jobs but rather thinkers, thought leaders and entrepreneurs who will incubate the next adventure, business, technology and will "create" jobs and intellectual property that benefits the whole country and humanity in general. Until we change our mindset and attitude towards these institutions and foster them to be what they should be, we will continue to see these transactional disappointments.
Indians have a tendency of running away from truth. Ur comment will get mixed replies.......mostly critical.
Very well said.
Itni diplomatic thinking se pet nhi palta... money is important
Govt Ruling Regime only wants Joy Shree Rom and not interested in career, students growth and your boll bachhan.....they want Afghanistan, Nigeria
agree
I am a Mathematics student at Jadavpur University. When i was reading in class 12 , my thoughts were very high about the Jadavpur University, Presidency University etc etc. But now i understand that my thoughts are totally wrong.
College depend nahi karta hain, sabhi teachers ek hi tarah hota hain. Lekin observation and study, these two things only depend on you.
Yeha paar sirf tag hii milte hain. 🙏🏻
Sorry if the words hurt anyone 🙏🏻
sad bro sad ...
That why I left JU math 2017 batch within 1 week
All faculty are not equal, I meet few foreign faculty in my IIT and they are just awesome by every aspect like knowledge, research, teaching
@Arka Bhowmik you are right.
All schools teach the same abcd but people are foolish who run behind some particular schools similarly all colleges teach the same curriculum so what one learn and impart is important.
Plzz sir made a vedio on IAS scam.. Becoz many coaching institutions attract students and lakhs of students waste life for merely 400 posts.. And almost 98 percent students got depressed by not selecting in IAS after 8 years of time waste in it. And then they got nothing.
Check hrithik mehlawat video
Exactly 💯
@@akash4700 bro what's your thoughts in this situation 🤔😕
That's what I am saying people in India are wasting their precious teenage years, their most productive years of life preparing for exams. The main reason behind this rat race is the Indian mentality where people who get a government job or become IAS/IPS are celebrated like heroes and overhyped. Mostly the coachings do so. Well they have to make their business. If they would not hype the exam they are training students for no one would buy their courses, test series and study packages. This is all bloody business. If you want to sell your product first create its hype.
@@loser3357 I agree with the comment
Ed tech is biggest business now
Upsc jee neet are prime exams of this industry upsc is worst as it sucks ur whole youth
I know bhaiya who started preparation on 21 22 age and now 30+ couldnt get a job but still have hopes ek ye mentality bnjati hai itna aagye hai thoda aur shi
Kabhi pre nhi hoga kabhi pre hua to mains nahi kabhi interview tk pahuch gye to lgega ab kareeb hai fir kabhi mains hi na ho mostly got stuck in loop
Darun bolecho Abhishek da. Being an IIT grad I can relate to this absolutely. But this is not just for IITs but for very good universities as well. People have a conception that if someone is studying in a reputed institute he will get everything automatically. However, people fail to see 70-80% students struggle to get through such phases. It is humiliating. And the present fintech and IT sector totally outshines all other sectors which also makes it very clear how our traditional sectors are lacking and soon with automation there won't be any high paying jobs, that's why if you see diploma college placement data in some areas they are doing better as Indian industries needs labours at cheap price, they don't need specialists. They are outsourcing it anyway.
Being from iit bombay, I totally agree with each and every point of the video. Never thought someone could make such an accurate video showcasing the real reality of iits. And yes it is damn true, in today's world skills are more important than any thing . Even iit degree fails out . Gaya wo Zamana jab 3 idiots dekhke sab ko iit jaana tha.. world is changing at a very high speed. And we should understand the demand of edtech industries rather than just being from iit.
"3 idiots dekhke sab ko IIT jana tha" but 3 idiots taught us to do what you love to do.
Please give some tips for JEE
IIT still gives best package in private job.
I cracked Govt exam as I am not from IIT and got jhandu private job.
Didn't 3 Idiots teach us to do different? Thats why I'm in neuroscience
Many IITians are working as accountants in Retail Jobs like Amazon, Shoe- Making Cobbler Companies like Nike and Grocery Outlets sourcing farm produce to bring to grocery market. This does not require IIT education. You can do these in India itself.
As an IIT kanpur undergrad from EE , I do agree by your few points . But you know what is best about IIT and IITians is that they are surrounded by intelligent people everytime and this pushes them to work even more harder and prove their credibility. They manages to land into a decent jobs sooner or later.
But reservation is a serious threat to that
@@meet_2480 Why the heck u always frightened about the reservation system 🤮🤮. Do u know the difference between SC/ST and general quota cut off. No. of seats for EWS ??? U are going to compete with your communities and u are gonna marry from ur community right. Can't u fight with your community 😂
@@dinesh6489 Its not about fighting with our community. It's about how a deserving student can't get a seat at good iit in good branch but one from SC ST gets it even at low marks. The bitter fact is that they can't even cope up to level of teaching at these prestigious institutions.
I'll tell you my example I am going to give Jee adv this year I am damn sure I'll get under 900 hundred rank but still won't be able to make to top 7 iits cs branch . While one with 'lower caste' gets it easily.
@@dinesh6489 ok so according to you more than 50% is termed as few ?
This is the actual sad reality of our education system. One of my friend's wife did a PhD in plasma physics, now she is teaching in a school because of no jobs in her subjects..
That really hurts
You need to choose your subjects based on job availability if you final aim is to get a job .
@@arijitroy1931 exactly itachi
Experimental plasma physics doesn't really exist, thus I assume it's computational and theoretical with simulations. In that case, she could have used those with some programming in analytics and related areas. Curious why not
@@Rising.Master Big fan brother 2018 se apki videos dekhta hu
I graduated from a Tier 3 college, now earning a Google equivalent salary, got 6 international offers in 2022 and mentoring IIT students.
I did a chemical engineering program at IIT Delhi after getting a good rank, but now I work in the IT sector. The curriculum was boring and hard, and people who scored much lower than me in JEE are earning 5 times more money than I am. I feel like IIT wasted my time. those who went to lower branches at IIT can understand my frustration because I don't get the respect I deserve. Additionally, individuals with less academic pressure not only read literature, learn new skills, and enjoy their leisure time but also engage in sports activities. Moreover, the fees charged by IITs are significantly higher compared to state engineering colleges.
And despite being so unsuccessful and hurdles people mock you like “bhai tum to IIT ho”
Even professors are only supportive for further education if you are a 9 pointer other they don’t care
very true sir .... i too obsrved that mostly the non science stream students / graduates overtake the tech guys at one point or another it is sad ....
So true bro.
Millenniums are squeezed hard for good money, suicides in Korea, Taiwan, India are rampant, go to China.
@@sonarbangla8711 👍
I can understand.
Being Post Graduate Doctor I request you to Please make Such Detail episode on Aspiring MBBS Students ,to let them know Reality of MBBS Even PG ,SUPER SPECILIST In Today's society
@@tusharzambre3662 what's reality of mbbs?
Thank you for this episode. My son will finish 10th this year. We were all set to spend lakhs of rupees on training and getting him into IIT. But somewhere i always felt that I must study the success rates of these colleges. U did it for me. This episode was a real eye opener. I think we along with my son will explore a lot more career options and he can pick what he wants. No more pressure on him.
You are a very responsible father .
Yes please leave him to take a right path and after few years he should not blame on his parents that - "abba mhi manenge"
Or my parents pressures me to take engineering
This video is a true example of how not to get manipulated by the society.
Means, criticizing him or whom
Actually I am in 9th class, so please can you guide me whether I should do jee preparation or not?
@@Paise_dedo_salon ofc u should do but not with the cost of your mental health..
@@SAUMYARATHI-w4t oki
@@Paise_dedo_salon I would suggest you to learn programming from 9th then go for jobs after 12
I am currently associated with one of the 'prestigious' IITs for setting up a Centre of Excellence. We had to agree on giving totally new courses through the Centre with pre-identified demand from industry.
Academic upgradation can only work when the IITs work together as partners. But unfortunately the common sentiment is of competition among these institutions.
I have been to DU and am now currently in Iit madras. I totally understand how soft skills are very important. Currently working on some skills aside from my data science course. Keep making content like this, it's necessary 👍🏻
I am an IITian and pass out from IIT MUMBAI (CS, 2012 Batch) currently working as a Senior Software Consultant in USA (NYC) in a Top MNC. I can definitely confirm that whatever you told is absolutely correct. Unfortunately, now the standard (In terms of Skill Sets) of IIT graduates has been degraded a lot and I feel very very bad about it because they are getting fired immediately. Their learning attitude is also not there in the industry because they think that they are the best because society and parents think so.
To be very honest, after spending 10yrs in this IT Software industry, still I always look to enhance my skill sets and as per my reporting manager I am one of the extremely highly skilled professional but I really don’t know whether my job is safe or not in this global recession.
People in the Society including the parents, they don’t want to understand that what an IITian is going through in his life. We are just living in a false illusionary society where people thinks that every IITian is well settled and perfect in their professional life which is absolutely wrong.
even if they join a low paying job like 7 lpa or something , there is a very high probability that in his late 40s he is well settled
Sahi kaha mujhe lagta stability ke lia log engineering kar lete hai .... 😢
I agree. THe skills based jobs have nothing to do with education. The software industry is evolving and the businesses want quick results so they hire only based on skills and ignore education and other background of the candidate
IIT nahi , MIT (BOSTON) ki aur chalo
Are iits well known by American?
Only rule to remember. No guarantees in life.
Zindagi, ek safar, hai suhanaa. Yaha kal kya ho, kisne jaana.
I am from IIT and I can say this video is true to the point. you addressed a very important issue that in India core engineering sectors don't have jobs.
well when you want to give vote for religion and caste then what kind of job you are looking for , this the result, you should join the industries / sector for which you select govt
@@surajhanda9096 bro I didn't vote in 2019. And in 2014 I wasn't eligible. But next year I will give vote.
@@VY-zt3ph yeah give vote to bjp
@@surajhanda9096 no. I will give to Congress.
@@VY-zt3phSandly being a congress worker from Tripura no party is good for India I think ...Every one is corrupted except some central leader(like-modi,Rahul gandhi).
I am also an IITian. Maximum no. of unemployed students are from reserved category. They get admission due to reservation but unable to complete the course with >8.5 CGPA. Though, they get admission for Engineering, but they start preparing for Civil services or CAT and don't work on their skills.
>8.5 cgpa 😅😅 are u kidding bro
Lol everybody in the comment section is an IITian 🤣🤣🤣.
Agree 💯
Source: Trust me bro
Sab kuch reservation par hi laya karo tum log ghuma fira ke💀 mana reservation galat h bhai har jagah kaha ghusa raha hai
Being an NITian(NIT Silchar CSE), I too agree that many times, there are courses that are taught in IITs/NITs & other colleges which are irrelevant and does not have any relation with the branch a student is pursuing....Even sometimes I also feel that those good things that I imagined during my JEE preparation about college are far far away from the reality :)
Yaa but cse,ece and eee is worth it for your prep of jee mains if you have acquired great skills at college time
@@tranquilizer234 lets see what happens, only 4months completed since i am in 1st yr
@@arghojitsaha3568 bhai dekho jo tume socha hoga college life se related wo india ke colleges mein milna bohot muskil hai you have to find your hustle and if your main motive is placement then all things will become secondary
@@arghojitsaha3568 i think you belong to sc bhai tumhare liye toh fir bhi cse easy rahi hogi leni and tab bhi khush nahi ho
@@tranquilizer234 🙂pure general bro, pure general! And what do you mean by "tumhare liye aasan hoga"?🙃waise toh bolta nehi, but mere mains mein 98.22%ile the,CRL 16262, so you can imagine NIT mein CSE kyu mila🙂
Kya chahte ho tum log
IIT bhi kharab hai, MBA bhi kharab hai, medical bhi kharab hai,sahi kya hai? Sab tumhari tarah RUclips khol ke baith jaye
Aur jo man me aye wo bolna suru kar de. Isse desh aur duniya dono bahut tarakki karegi
Saari problem population ki hai .. or govt. Ko youth ka use karna bilkul bhi nhi aata .. literally learn something from chinna... How to use it effectively. Me bhi neet aspirants hu. But, ye akash Bhai such bol rhe h. Reality to change nhi ho jaygi... Mujhe ye sbb rat race lgta h... Jha hmm sbb Jaa rhe hai ...😕
Dekho mai bhi NIT me padta mains aur advance dono crack kiya hun, jo ye data bata rahe hai, ki itne% placement nhi hua
Badi badi iits me, inse ye pucho ki kitne % bacche placement me baithe hi nhi, kitne research or higher study ke liye chale gye wo bhi to batao. Bata rahe hain ki communication skill acchi nhi hoti , iit balo ki😅(isliye ye course le lo) kabhi kisi iit bale mile ho. Do semester hum logo ko communication skill per kaam karya jata h.Agar iit bala ye sab bole tab sahi lagta hai, bina proper knowledge kuch bhi bolna sahi nhi lagta mujhe
@@nitubhai786 aage wala baat toh nahi pata but haa...communication skills bure nahi hain IITians ke. Infact bahut hee sahi hain
@@nitubhai786 who knows jo higher studies k liye gye unka nhi laga ho placement isliye gye ho
I am not from an IIT or NIT, but I know a few friends of mine who are from these colleges, and we are in our BTech final year rn. Trust me, even if our skills are quite good, the one from IIT/NIT will always have an edge. Be it offcampus placements or on campus. In fact , they get the opportunities of getting top jobs because companies pay higher salaries to them and also, on campus is slightly easier than off campus.
Hence a person in NIT/IIT will definitely get more opportunities, be it on campus or off campus.
This is a reality. People say negative things about these institutes, but deep down most engineering graduates want a good high paying job and yes, these institutes will give you a 10x better opportunity.
Most of the jobs are limited to the IT sector. In IIt's, most students who prepare for IT companies ( Please mark my words. I wrote that students who prepare for IT companies, not the CSE students) get placed at the end of the 2nd day or 3rd day of placement. For some other branches, the jobs are a little fewer. But if you are targeting the IT companies and preparing correctly, you will land a good-paying job.
Yes, skills play an essential role over degree. But this doesn't mean that degrees play zero roles. IIT tag can give you a chance to stand out, but how you will take advantage of that chance depends on your skills.
I agree that IIT does not mean success. There are different ways also, but IIT still gives you something. In my opinion, IIT means something other than success. IIT gives you opportunities and the stage, but how you perform depends on you.
One more point that I want to address is that assume that there is an IAS person selected as a cricketer in the Indian team. And he is not performing well in the Indian team. His performance is poor. So does retain him makes a good point? Obviously no. The same thing happens when you will get a job after IIT. If you are not doing justice with your job, then how you can say that the IIT tag should protect me (Don't take it personally, not talking about a massive layoff). This is incorrect to say that IIT should defend my job. Why should IIT protect your job if you do not add value to the company?
One thing that I disagree with is equality. They do justice with equality.
You should get some relevant information about the placement session in IITs. I am impressed with the placement sessions and placement guidelines at IIT compared to other colleges. In one day, there are two slots. And the company will get slots depending on the package they offer and the company's tag. A student can get any number of offers in a particular slot but has to accept only one offer in that slot and take exit from the placement. For example, If a student gets placed in company 'y' and in the same slot he was placed in company 'z', then he has to take one offer and take exit from the placement so that every student will get a chance and the student already know that which company came in which day and which slot. And most good companies got early slots only. So there is no point in participating in further slots. This will not happen when you first get placed for TCS, but then you will get to know that Google is coming. This will never be going to happen. Depending on its tag, relations, and package, the company will get slots. So there is no harm in taking an offer from a slot and taking an exit so that every student will get a chance.
In the video, you mention that company 'X' offers less package. This may be true. But this needs to be completed information. If company 'X' offers less package and is not well-reputed. The company 'X' will not get the early-day placement slots. It got a slot after 10-12 days. Till 10-12 days, most of the targetted student gets placed. What I mean by the targetted student is let's assume company 'X' is an IT company, so till 10-12 days, most students who prepare for IT company get placed.
Only those students left who prepare significantly less or no preparation for the IT company. I am saying that those students are okay in study. I am saying maybe they did not prepare for the targetted role.
The point that I want to add is you have to make a good balance between the college tag and specialization. You have to understand the jobs available in the market for that particular specialization, and if a job is available, will this college help me get the job? Don't think I got the tag, and that specific tag will do every good thing for me ( This is true for all the tags, not only IIT). Many of us think that story ends when you enter into IIT. But the reality is your story is just started.
In Pakistan, IIT considers a paragon. I remember our professors gave the example of IIT. Currently, Even though the students are facing problems to hunt the job after graduation from IIT. Yet the university is still proud of India.
R e bro wo galat coarse hai, aisa coarse koi nehi lete hai .. original core main sob hota hai
Definitely the quality of Education in Old Five IITs + Guwahati IIT is the best. It can be compared with any Top Engineering Grad Schools of USA. But in India IITs or Universities are far behind in Pure Science and Mathematical Research.
Because sorry to say.. Pak doesn't have Institutes like these.. In India MIT harvard oxford are considered the premium Institutes
@@rohanagarwal7880 Indian institutes were opened up by the USA to hire cheap labor and cut the cost. Pakistan was formed to provide political services to the USA.
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 I think you don't have the maturity level to understand what I wrote. Yeah, we are accustomed with MIT, Harvard, NYU, and Columbia. Many Pakistan graduated from world top class University. My comment was specifically for IIT.
IITs are not meant to guarantee jobs but they are guaranteed to give world class infrastructure and access to various exposures to the students. Itna hi kharab koi IIT k bare me sochta hai to private college se engineering kr le or fir open market me uska competition kisi IIT wale se bhi hoga...!!
Yes , the video is correct but I am also from IIT MADRAS , and yes only 5% of the students will grab the highest packages but students and parents as well as teachers should remember that the tough entrance exams were for admission into IITs and the probability of getting a job is simply result of one's presence of mind and the ability to handle all kinds of pressure
Gf banoge meri😮
Yes didi you are right i ve seen legitimate data
@@Ash78677wtf
Joining iit Madras this year!
My brother is MTECH from IIT MADRAS IN Chemical Engineering he is jobless he lost job in 2 months now he prepare for Gate Exam after Mtech from IIT Madras to Get Job In PSUs
😱😳
Bhai industry me job dekhne bolo, kuch softwares seekha hoga. Kuch toh in demand skill kiya hoga tho kuch na kuch mil jayega. Then he can prepare for Gate on the side. Time waste mat karo competitive exam keliye.
@@saagar2002 true skills coding toh humlog bhi Sikh sakte hain fir toh job pure world me available hogi
@@imawarrior4527 sab sikh skte h to tu b seekhle fir
Akash bhai this work of yours is not lesser than any social reforming act. Highly recommended
that is too big a compliment - just doing my little bit
@@thedeshbhakt Thanks Akash sir please 🙏 make a same scratch o/r detailed vedio on AIIMS dream of Doctor becoming students it will help me alot
THANK YOU AKASH SIR
as an IITian I can vouch for this!! The problem is the jobs are limited to the IT sector, hence circuital branches (CSE, EE, ECE) are the only ones to have great placements (yes we on average get more than 35LPA CTC) . We definitely have the best faculty however considering the market condition engineering has now become more about cracking the coding interviews and getting into IT sector irrespective of your core branch.
really on an avg more than 35LPA CTC?? dont forget the term CTC plays a huge role here
@@aayushmohta592 yeah we actually do (I am from computer science). but for non circuital branches the scenario is grim.
@@fossil5639 I would be happy if I could help you but why would you choose ece over cse because of the current market trends?
@@fossil5639 why do you think AI won't be able to do those jobs?
see, the thing with this AI takeover is obviously scary, but we must understand that everyone should do what they desire and emergence of a disruptive technology shouldn't hinder it, rather it should make it more exciting. I would advise you to let her do what her heart wants and she surely would be able to make you proud. Please don't loose your sleep over the AI saga.
I am from medical field which of course is underpaid. But main problem is that you can't switch pg seats if you don't like it's for you. If you leave that seat you have to pay big amount of money and would be shamed for wasting someone's seat. But in foreign countries students try different specialisations and find what's fit for them.
India mein sabse bda problem yeh bhi hai.... Shamed for wasting a seat.... I completely disagree with that.... Every one is living his own life with own dreams and aspirations.... I took admission in some prestigious college say AIIMS Delhi.... After completing course mbbs now I am no more interested in medical field.... Then ismein problem kya hai... I will do MBA and got into some MNC job.... Seat barbaad hone ka kya logic hua... Hum kya chori krke admission liye the.... Open competition k thru admission liye the phir mam kiya change of line of career ka toh change kr rhe hain..... Seat waste kyun hoga..... Hum apne life ko apne mja k saath jee rhe hain toh...
@@ashishprasad6904 seriously. Everyone should live and let others live too.
@@carpediem8533 bhai abhi abhi 17 saal ka ek ladka mere family mein class 12 k baad ias Krna chahta hai...... He asks me everything... I told him .... Now woh yeh bhi bol rha tha class 12 level pr jee advance ka alag craze hai.... Jab graduation 3 yr ka krenge toh 4 yr ka kr hi skte hain....... So after class he wants to do btech graduation and then. ... Civil services preparation....
Aur yhan aise aise gadhe hain jo bolenge jb finally civil services Krna hai toh btech kyun karein.....
Are bhai tum Mt na kro.... Jo Krna chahta hai woh kre....usko apne mehnt pr krne do.... Civil services mein graduate in aniy discipline hai.... Engineering subject one of graduation papers hai.... Bhut logon ko pta bhi nhin hai.... Toh moorkh logon ka koi kmi nhin hai....
Agar uska civil nhin ho payega toh woh phir btech degre ko pvt MNC job mein use ka sonchega nhin toh phir thik hai.....
You always touch the untouchable subject that wins hearts ❤
Very true.
I am from one of the IIT, completed Master's in Chemical Engineering and got Rs 5 Lakh package in dec placement season. Later on few companies were offering better packages but I was not allowed to be interviewed as was already placed. Later on the company which gave me placement of 5 lakh per anum called me in their office and layed me off before joining😁, seems Rs 5 lakh was too much for them, they made a mistake.
I knew this already thats why ditched iit jammu mtech ece for mtech in iiit cse
Iiit is one of few institutes which give admission to non cs folks for their CSE masters
Now what r u doing
@@Pravar hey I m bsc now which clg r u
@@mayankmehta9333 *institute
@@Pravar tier 30clg can I share my number
Hi Akash, Thanks for the great episode as always - as an IIT graduate (2010), I resonate with your core message - the glossy pay figures of a few mask the overall picture. It was a similar situation in 2009-10 when I graduated. Wanted to make two comments as I have observed over the years:
1) Good salary offered by banks, consulting firms, and non-core jobs distorts the preferences of most students - kind of defeats the intent of establishing IITs to create engineering and research talent. This is a systemic issue which cant be fixed by the institutes - until core jobs become lucrative, good students will go for best-paying jobs irrespective of what they studied.
2) While immediate salary post-IIT might not be grand (10-16lac as you mentioned), the average earnings of an IITian over 10-15 years is a more appropriate lens to judge if IIT is worth the money/effort (and I would believe the answer is yes, as I have seen most of my batchmates, as I know, have done exceptionally well). That's where the brand and network effort starts to play. The challenge is this long term is easier said than considered - neither parents, nor students or media would look at this way - our human tendency is short-term/immediate reward thinking.
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Sir, the generation today thinks that in the long run which you are talking about, everyone will be dead !
Actually it takes too much to get the degree these days as compared to what it was 15 years ago ...and waiting for that long is not worth it
Perfectly said mate. The huge alumni network is the best part. Rest anyone can learn anything in this day and age.
I'm also an IIT graduate (1990), and I know many IITians and non-IITians for over 30 years, and I can say that over the long-term, universities don't matter at all. All that matters is the work that you do, and by extension, your work ethic, passion, creativity, and ability to get along with others. For example, I know a person who graduated from a Tier 3 college in India and is now VP of International Transactions at Citi in the USA, and Citi does not care where he graduated from. The biggest advantage that IITians have is not the education, but the network.
@@politicallyincorrect1705 exactly sir even my friends from IITs who chose non circuit branches are crying and regretting about their descision.
Preparing for MBA is far better than going for iit🙏
Same goes for IIM s. You have to skill yourself and learn techniques, do courses which will not necessarily be taught in class. After that do boot licking of placement committee to ensure maximum shortlists. After that too final placement is random, that is, not everyone gets the desired packages and good companies even after hard work.
Fir to tu berozgar h rehne de😂😂
@@hypnosis_nightmare 😅
Not sure if it’s a hidden detail , but I’m glad that you chose the national science day to explain the other side of issue…. Respectfully very impressed 👏🏻
I think you should also include data about how much people are going into IIM and UPSC just because they know that they are going to placed but for a iit tag they choose lower branch at a low AIR in JEE advanced and also they are many people from the branches you mentioned are opting for higher studies.
Most of those students don't apply for placements at all. Those who apply for placements and don't get any offer are counted as unemployed by the placement cell
Iim better than IIT ok
@@sohil-eh7ko 😂😂
Very well said Sir. The things you said about the necessity of soft skills were way too enlightening. These skills are indeed very important in todays time and scenario. In a world where AI and ML are making our lives easier we need to know the importance of those who use these these tools in the most justified and efficient manner.
Brilliant analysis 👏 👌 kya baat hai Sir..perfect eye opener..hope the pressure on kids are reduced after knowing this reality..keep it up Sir..
Fascinating and highly informative as always. I have friends who are from IITs and NITs and sadly, this is true. I almost went into engineering but I followed my passion and created a 3D design and animation startup. I would love it if Akash has time to cover the animation, game design and vfx fields as well, because a lot of people are highly skilled, passionate and dedicated artists who deserve a good compensation and career, but unfortunately it is very much ignored in our country, where India has the largest outsourcing work for Hollywood movies and video games.
Hey bro , sometime i gonna collab with you as a 2D animator
Hey! Deshbhakt talks about how lower branch people in IITs end up getting 10lpa-16lpa but is it really true? I just saw the placement stats and even Ceramic in IIT BHU has avg 23+ LPA . It's crazy. Similarly, no branch in IIG has median less than 18lpa.
This is so contradictory!
What have your friends got to say about it?
@@r65400 firstly u were fooled my those coaching media crooks sister and the data presented by deshbhakt is 100% legit as i have crosschecked from my friend's college placement data. Moreover get out of those fake media outlets + ceramics and non circutal lower branches has negligible placements
@@r65400 phir tumne maal phuke data dekha hoga wo 23lpa nhi hoga i bet
@@vaishali.1801 Anpadh hai kya bhai tu? Khud jaake dekhle official stats
"Tune maal phuka hai". This tells about your level of education and common sense, dude! Ffs you got eyes , go and check yourself.
Sucha creep
I graduated from IIT Roorkee in 2020 and did my bachelor's in Production and Industrial Engineering and can I affirm the points that you have raised here, there is more shocking news that I can tell you regarding the time we were there, we actually wanted the IIT to close our program, it should be a shock because the course and curriculum hasn't been updated for a very long time, even if they update these courses there aren't any faculties that can teach them, i.e why it is one of the main reasons why IIT students don't prefer higher studies from IIT, Akash even if you do this data analysis that for the IIT's , majority of the profs that are hired don't have the domain knowledge regarding the subject they teach and aren't even with a good education background which is one of the reason. Thanks for making this video you don't know how many students are actually suffering by taking these branches.
I am also from an IIT. I am disagree from this point that IIT's prof does not have good educational background. For securing a prof. job in IIT's they have to spend atleast 7 years of research (PhD+PostDoc). It may be that they are not a good teacher but it is not the case that they don't have good educational background.
Kuch bhi IIT proff ka study background check karna most of them has done their PhD,MS from the best universities like MIT , standford ,Caltech so you can't judge their education qualification they might be bad teacher but not a bad researcher wase tumne yeh baat likhi hai Mero ko ajeeb lagi kyuki sabhi iit students ko Pata hai ki unki education background kitni sahi hoti hai I don't think you are from an IIT
@Janavi Rajput completely agree. Iit profs gave good domain knowledge.
@@r65400 bro that's your fault that u are not preapred for advanced aur jaha that rat race ki baat hai it is there in china ,korea , Singapore and japan as well
@@r65400 hey can you please tell which college is that ? (asking cuz I too gave mains this year and got similar percentile)
( I have a knack you might be from Delhi region..)
IITan from Madras, the content is to the point and absolutely true. Only CSE grad gets the good package, which makes headlines. Also on numerous occasions, companies withdraw offers after providing a joining letter (it happened with my mates, Flipkart had withdrawn the offer). Overall it is nice to get admission to IIT, but it's not the end of the world.
Hey! I am a jee aspirant and getting nits/iiits but never prepared for jee advanced. I am regretting because according to stats even ceramic branch in IIT BHU has avg package 23+ LPA which is too much for a lower branch. In IIT GUWAHATI, no branch had median package of less than 18 LPA. If this is the case, why do people say that majority of people fall in 10-18 lpa category and that lower branches do not get good placements?
Umm as a jee aspirant who couldn't clear jee (as i think i can't 😂) the preparation of jee give you some sort of ability to bear pressure and to work hard which is more important than to go in college
So if you do not doing any productive things in 11th and 12th so it's good to prepare for it and face the harsh reality and competation
😂 i know i will not get iit/nit
how's the result?
Result kaisa.tha Bhai?
This is what my dad would say lol
I am a civil engineering student and i
Have seen that 75% of civil engineering are either unemployed or preparing for gov jobs.
Or either in extreme low paying job 12 hours + per day
@@pritishranjanbehera5151 and getting only 10000-12000 per month
So what are good options left for civil engineers
@@financewithabishek, if you want a good salary package in civil engineering, you need to go abroad.
The best strategy to develop a career is choosing a career and building skills around it by yourself, build a portfolio, solve open problems. The jobs would come to you.
I was a student at an NIT and I thought I was among cream, but when I landed a job at Reliance Jio . I found people from local engineering colleges doing the same stuff with same salary, thats when I realized joining IIT NIT rat race was a waste of time and building real skills which job market needs matter. I took this learning to advice my younger sibling to join an easier private college that provided scholarship.
Presently he is in US at the same place where I am.
I wish internet and social media awareness was at current level as are available now
Also you don’t need to join any paid sessions, all the information is free on RUclips and platforms like edX & coursera.
You don’t need any certifications. Doing real life projects on websites like github , tableau are better than certifications which anybody can buy nowadays
@@slapfighting your sibling is from which college?
From NIT Rourkela cse branch (rejected IITs lower branches)
Every stated point is true but the real problem lies with the profs too ,they really don't wanna teach.We watch RUclips videos for almost every other subject to pass exams .
Bro if I join lower branch of nit Rourkela will I get ample of time to study cs and crack placement through myself and complete the studies of lower branch parallely???
This video is like satisfaction for every non iitian.
😁✌
Still it won't change the fact that you failed jee
@@mynk_rjpt bruh i cleared jee advanced and still went for dtu cse. Itna narcisism acha nhi hai... life me fail hone se achha hai jee me fail ho jao
@@vnssn but I never said anything to you.
@@vnssn rank kitni aayi
I am MBA. When I was drawing a handsome salary and funding my engineering friends, today after 15 years, all are earning more than me, well above me.
It might be a little struggle in the starting, but anyone aspiring for IITs, should not get demotivated coz of this video.
Getting into IIT Or IIM does not makes your whole life comfortable. Life is a struggle.
Truth informs and makes one ready - Lies when hidden - Demotivate.
Good one AB! Another classic case to demonstrate, How People rise to their level of incompetence and then amplify more incompetence by sharing their incompetence as knowledge through a crippled educational system!
Happy holi , Akash sir.
I'm preparing for IIT and I was like waiting for this sort of a video. Feeling relaxed after watching the grey shades of IITs.😁👍
Very well said, Akash! However, I want to mention that intelligence is evenly distributed among all individuals, and it ultimately depends on how one utilizes it. I am speaking on behalf of individuals who did not attend IITs. I have observed many engineers who are preparing for bank jobs or receiving computer training, including IIT students. Therefore, one should not label IIT students as the cream of society because one day they may have to compete with someone who did not attend an IIT. Additionally, even Indian CEOs in the US did not necessarily graduate from IITs. Many obtained additional MBA degrees or computer training, and 99% of individuals working overseas did not attend IITs and earn similar salaries to IIT graduates. Nowadays, attending top colleges is not essential, but possessing a basic degree and expertise in a sought-after software such as AI or machine learning can take you to great heights. This message is not intended to discourage IIT students or their parents but to inspire all others. As Akash stated, skill-based education plays a crucial role in shaping our future.
Good research.. touched all salient points.. ekdum sehmat hope all concerned watch .. and absorb.. for a reality check.
Not generalizing but to some extent, teachers are guiding students to get marks and not understanding the subjects better. Recently I listened to Nobel laureate Mr.Abhijit Banerjee talking about the Indian education system that a 5th class student doesn't know to solve a problem with 3rd class books. This is why more students are migrating to study abroad
Hi Akash/Team,
The video is very true. Can you please also make another video on the research scenario in IITs. Focusing on how IITs are run like a cartel? Getting a job at an IIT as a professor is almost impossible. Also, the focus is always on quantity rather than the quality of papers published. The procurement of lab equipments is also filled with corruption.
There is a saying in Punjabi "Jitna gurr unna ki mitha" . It's the effort you put in matters in the end , it's what you make of it.
I studied in tier 3 college, my hostel friend in mechanical who was average student and even failed in some subjects went to UK for masters and then doctorate and is in research field now..
The potential of an average student to succeed in foreign country even tho he was week in studies shows how behind India is.
Too much competition and very little jobs is killing the future of millions of Indians
Why? Simple, India lacks Industrialization
I have been in many discussions with friends that the Indian system of education is failing their students. You just reinforced my beliefs.
Very true. Your income from RUclips is higher than 95% of the IITians salary package.
@@ajitkumarsahu503 nice joke iitians can buy this 🤡
Respected sir, excellent analysis and great video.
You always bring the real truth of social issues in your videos.👍👍
Very genuine and important topic, and a great lesson to our parents, students, leaders & teachers, infact for everyone...
Great content...👌🏻
At any rate, having an engineering degree from an IIT is better than having one from a non-IIT.
But its not worth it.....
@@superRnova288 bhai sun usko apni IIT Jake gand marwane ka soak hai agar uusko marwana hai toh marwaye data toh sab sahi the
Yes , the Indian Education system only wants students to rattafication, memorizing a lot of things, and taking loads of things which are not important , We students are chasing IIT,JEE, because all of the students are giving IIT ,JEE and not seeing other exams,skills and not focus on the main Points i.e., SKILLS.
The main point of stress in Todays Student is our Indian Education system , Our society says to us that You have to crack,iit,jee but they don't think what a student wants to become.
So Students to live in the world without stress follow your dreams and not see what others are chasing off.
If we take an example of the German Education System ,the student follows his own dream .
So Don't Take Stress 🙏.
This video is about Btech in IITs. The situation is even worse for MTech, Msc and PhD courses at IITs. Being from one of newer IITs. In our time in MSc(19-21) , only 1 student got placed out of 31, that too with 6 lac package.
Video is about lower branches in IITs
Bro don't speak this much truth
I preparing for IIT not for Job But For the Great Exposure Of the world ...... Because there are many clubs to develop your Skills. And a friend Company and Hostel Life.. Job Is secondary For The Students Who have the ability to Crack IIT ..
sir I am from class 11th and pagal after IIT so I checked out for your video to know about it from thumbnail and I was actually satisfied so thank you very much for this information 👍👍
I am studying MSC in mathematics (IIT DELHI)
fee structure of msc,phd, Mtech research like courses is very high and hiked upto more than 150% even after covid situation .
If govt don't support us for research then how can we move for phd . Because even in phd fellowship is too much low and must be revised earlier as possible .
Please raise our issues 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes I can feel. Very high fees
1 min silence for those middle class parents who think ek bar IIT crack ho gya to life set hai
😅
7 to 10 lack per annum bhi kya kam hay bhy ? Ye to starting hoti hay...
@@kushagrapaliwal5365 yes bro . A person from a lower class or lower middle class has to do anything to support his family
@@kushagrapaliwal5365
Bohot se aam engineering students ko 20 25000 ki nokri laga gayi to BOHOT badi baat hoti hay bhy ek middle class family ke liye. Agar IIT se 7 to 10 L ki nokri matlab 60 se 80000 ki nokri lagi to it's quite a fat sum of money for a middle class guy.
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
as a jee aspirant i can confirm that there is a lot of pressure from homes for getting into iits
after my class 10th I wanted to opt for physics as i was exceptionally good at it but later in 11th i discovered that i am also having deep interest in economics so i said to my parents that i wanted to pursue my studies further in economics my father said i cant feed you forever
you need to earn as soon as possible so you need to get into iits
and in this january attempt i secured 97 percentile good enough to get me a seat into an nit
now that my dad is pretty much sure about my engineering he said that after getting into collage he want me to get into UPSC preparation
i am interested in geopolitics and economics but i don't wanna get into IAS preparation
NOW MY FATHER SAYS BETA FOR US MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE OUR PRESTIGE IS EVERYTHING
IMAGINE HOW HAPPY WE WILL BE WHEN YOU WILL BECOME IAS
but no one asks me what i want to do with my life
So sad bro 😢😞😪💔
Brother, stay strong, atleast you'll be proud of yourself that you did what your father asked you to.
Getting 97 percentile isn't a piece of cake, your father must be proud of you, think of their happiness. You can explore a lot of different things when you get into an IIT or any college that you will join.
Just say "fuck you" and leave. Get a part time job and await placements.
@Meena Empire "mai kisi ka sapna hu jo aaj ban chuka hai sach"
Those days😭
@Meena Empire Garmi ki chuutiya hoti hai badi lambhi, bacche ho jaate hai bade bore, toh samajhna yeh hota hai bada mushkil kya kre kya kre? Jaise ki
Coaching me pdhna, Pw ko OP kehna aur IIT ki videos dekhna😭😭
This video is highly undervalued. Keep it up
well, being in IIT and studying the courses I can fully relate this. I know IITs are best but it is because of the students who makes the IITs worth it. I think administrators should think of upgrading the curricular and also focus on Research opportunities.
This was true 20 years ago when I did it 20 years ago.. and I made a good decision to find job in IT. it's better to do engineering in a area where there are jobs rather then institutions
I failed in 5th standard,
I failed in 9th again
In 10th somehow I got 53%
In 12 I got, 44%, yes you read it right.
I was never a bright student.
Somehow I managed to get into BSC computers (I was getting place in electronics but I realised, in computers I dont have to mug up/learn by heart as I cannot do that since childhood)
I was good in logical ability and C/C++
After BSC somehow managed to enter MCA, brushed up my ability to write good code. Infact I was one of few students in my class (full of 70-90% throughout students) who used to implement the practical code programs and whole class use to copy it.
Got placed in a small company in campus interview (as this company was not having any bar on academic percentage which anyways I never had)
Now its been 15 years in software development and doing well and earning package more than 50LPA.
I regret those wasted 2 years in my school, how can I be so dumb to not pass 5th standard ? Anyways ...
Not writing this msg to praise myself, its just to say 'Kabil bano kamyabi jhak mara ke ayegi' and never ever feel demotivated in any phase of your life, believe in yourself. We live only once!!
@@dhaneshshastri1 congrats on your success brother. You proved that academics doesn't matter, it matters the skills you have🫡
Liar
@@sarojbandhukarmakar1105he ain't
Currently in 12th grade, I've decided to take a different route than the traditional JEE preparation. Instead, I've devoted my time to mastering C, C++, and Python, and delving into the basics of Kali Linux. I firmly believe that working hard on honing these skills for over 2 years will pave the way for promising job opportunities. It's my unique journey towards self-improvement, and I'm excited about the endless possibilities it holds. Here's to charting our own paths and embracing the journey of personal growth!
how its going brother i am thinking to do same i am 11th
Yeah that's horribly true 👍
Thanks a million for this video
100% agreed
IIT's being the gems of our country
Still lacks in research, our top institute IIT BOMBAY is at 62nd position in world rankings in research, we surely need to upgrade
I am a PhD from IIT Delhi, currently a postdoc in US. The scientific acumen of Indian researchers is actually pretty good. Research in India cannot compete with the west easily mainly because research is a luxury, the amount of money thrown into research in US mainly by national science foundation, defence agencies, corporates etc cannot be matched by India. Also, feel free to disagree, the majority of people at DRDO and scientific bodies are incompetent mainly because they are majorly selected without research experience. You cannot fill-in scientist positions with people having just masters and limited research experience.
Secondly, just by having a US university affiliation in my author list, the value of research paper and chances of acceptance after peer review shoots up. There is a bias inherent which can only be broken by international collaborations. Another major difference is the mindset, in US and the west, people want to do the best work and believe that they can. In India, atleast the older generations of prof. always competed only for the second and third level of international journals and research outputs. Complicated scenario which can only improve over time.