What are the best EMTB Tires? - Full Review EDDY CURRENT Ebike Tires
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2020
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Riders in this Episode we give away 2 pairs of Eddy Currents from Schwalbe and do the 450km Review on the ebike tires.
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Dude, that shot straight on was both awesome and hilarious! Great review Sam!
Thanks Rider...
Awesome. Thanks mate, can't wait to get some new rubber just in time to shred the trails when looking lockdown ends 👍
Woop woop ....can't wait thanks Sam 🤙
Congrats mate send me your address and what sizes you want!
Thanks for the runner up 7!! Keep up the good videos, definitely still need to buy a pair myself 😉
Next time mate thanks for watching and let me know how you get on defo great tires.
Just ordered a pair to replace my Hans Dampf after1200 miles (2000k) on rocky loose SoCal trails with no flats. Buying these because of your and Loam Wolf’s reviews.
I‘ve seen your video while i search test results for Eddy Current. It‘s absolutly great. Thumbs up and an Abo is yours 👍🏻🤘🏻greetings from Germany
Wow, thank you
Super vid Sam. Sick opening and great review
Glad you enjoyed it this one was a lot of work but I love it
Running eddy 2.8 in the back done 800km loved it but the front i didn't like as much for the terrain i ride to heavy and knob spaceing to tight ended with a shorty front 2.4 mullet on a mullet bike 🚲 I like your channel, keep it up 👍
Congrats to the winners! Enjoy the tires guys !
Sam, really cool video, you are stepping up !
Thanks mate sorry you didn’t win! This video took me all week but happy with how it turned out!
Sam’s Bikes maybe next time you can make a giveaway with a bike and I’m the lucky one 🤣 I know the feeling, we find every time a tiny thing, and we want to improve. But we’ll nice done mate !😁
Another great video , great info .. thanks again
Thanks again!
Sam, i really wish id watched this vid before i published my last ride a few days back on a 600 metre downhill in Spain. I had a Rant about the mismatch of mtb tyres fitted to emtbs after the 'marble' strewn ride on rubbish 2.5 'Nobby nics', done the same ride on Maxxis 2.8s with much more control, on one bike & Kenda 2.6s one another, the Maxxis feel flimsy in the sidewalls tho.- Most Glad You tested these out mate, im definitely going to head back to that confounded hill with some of these Emtb specifics. Im a old motocrosser with rediscovered passion - but bad tyres ruin a good downhill. Keep up the good work lad! I done several countries this year and fretted about this matter. Decent tyres were and are confidence boosters. Im 56 years young, most of the 40 years i spent off road on two wheels in one form or another- Emtbs till i Die ( later than sooner)
thanks for the kind words... good tires and good brakes are the most important part on an ebike... you will Love the Eddys
Another no nonsense review
Cheers Sam
Thanks again!
Another great super informative video.👍
Thanks again mate...
Very informative thanks Sam
Glad it was helpful!
Tried the 2.8 on rear found it very draggy went back to 2.6 Hans damf SG on rear will try 2.6 eddy next. Love the eddy current on the front running mullet setup and riding natural trails with fire road climbs.
I might try the hans next on the decoy and see! I don’t find it draggy but for sure the hans will roll better.
Great review. I've been running a front, at 17psi (86kg), and it's great. Think I'll get a rear 😃
Dude do it!!! The rear tire is a winner!
Glad to see new ebike tire
Yep much needed
Ready to pull the trigger but just need to know the 2.6 will fit the 29s on the rear of my 21 Levo Comp
Might give them a shot in the next couple of months,got a puncture last week and used my shoelace to stop the tyre coming of the other side as you try to put it on👍💯🚴
Haha good work love the hacks
Sam would you run rim protectors (cushcore) with these tires so you can run lower pressures
Why does Sam only have 4.5k subscribers? Good material here, would love to try these slicks.
Hey thanks mate, I try my best the channel is growing but slow!
Hey Sam,nice edit,have you rode these much in wetter muddier conditions,?Riding in Scotland we done often see `sun or dry trails so we ride on the wetter side....So im defo after some feedback on wet roots and mud etc
Mate Im Aussie and live in Spain... I never ride in the Mud haha so I can't tell you sorry.
Yeah the 2.8 tires bounce around a lot and float over loose/wet tearrain, went down to 2.5´s, let´s see how that goes but maybe I will settle at 2.6 s :) Great video!
haha I did the same thing.. 2.5 was amazing but my bike was a little to low now im on the 2.6
I’m running Eddys on my Decoy and love them
Sweet Richard what pressure you running?! I’m still trying to get the perfect balance defo different beast and need to test on the pressure
Sam’s Bikes Sam I have Carbon rims so running higher pressure than I normally would 29 rear and 24 front plus I’m not in your league riding wise so it suits my OK
Hey mate thanks for the reply glad your loving them I’m down to 18,22 now and it’s feeling good! Still a little harsh on the rocks I think I’ll prop a small amount of air pressure.
Running 2.6 Eddys front and rear(front specific on rear) on my 20 levo. Agree with this entire review!
thanks for letting me know and glad your loving your Eddys
What made you decide to run 2 fronts? Looking for new tyres as i keep ripping them! Ripped maxxis and ewilds multiple times in 6 months so want something thats going to last
Dale James my dumbass ordered 3 fronts haha and said screw it. I run 18 rear with cush so traction for daaaays. The tires are incredibly burly though i may go back to maxxix heavy dh after these are toast.
Is it to slack if i go for 2.6 27.5 and 2.6 29? or the more the better?
Love your video, thanks. Question: I have a 750 watt fat tire e-bike. The bike has Kendra tires on it. I live in the desert and here we have goat head thorns that are going through my tires all the time! I get a flat at least once month, its becoming a pain to deal with, getting flats in the middle of nowhere is not fun. I have the tuff liner in them with a tube, and i run a bottle of slime in each tire, but i still get flats. Is there a better, stronger fat tire that would repeal a thorn? I have the 20x40 fat tires. Thanks!
Steven thanks for the kinda words. You need to look at getting a tubeless set up and some plugs... google it and buy me a beer haha or buy a t shirt !
Nice content as always. So are these still the E-bike go-to 8 months on? How do they compare to a Big Betty/Magic Mary combo? What about some back to back range testing with Schwalbe's range? Would be interested to see the difference between the Super Trail and Super Gravity casings in terms of real world puncture protection vs weight/rolling penalty.
MR DOG... good comments new video dropping next week on this buy my go to set up now it Magic Marry Big Betty Super Gravity Super Soft front and Soft back but if your not racing i would only gosoft getting 10% maybe 15% more but wearing 50% faster. Eddys are still good and they last longer but I find more traction on the Magic/Betty
@@SamsBikes looking forward to it. I’m leaning towards the Betty/Mary combo the Eddy’s seem a bit too ‘built’ for me. Biggest challenge right now is finding anyone who has them in stock. Thanks and Keep up the training man
I agree Sam - why do YT supply our Decoys with the minions on exo casings. They just aren’t fit for purpose for a heavy E Bike doing anything remotely interesting up a mountain. I changed the rear of my decoy 29 to a 2.6 Eddy and I love it. I plan to get a 2.6 up front over the next few weeks too. Minion Double Downs we’re on the list as were E Wilds.. but for the life of me couldn’t find them in decent 29er sizes in the UK at Mo. Glad really as I’m impressed with the Eddy, I run 24psi on the rear to play It safe (88kg with kit..no cushcore etc installed). Your videos r getting better Everytime too... Nice one 👍🏽
Thanks bro thar really means a lot, look I think it comes down to cost and weight of the bike, yt would dona deal you buy a whole heap of minions and also they can say the bike is 22kg and this makes maybe 60% happy and maybe they make more sales out of it but I love to see people like commencal putting full fat dh tires on there Ebikes! I’ve run the e wild good but I found the rubber to hard and didn’t grip as well as a minion or a current! Thanks for watching and let’s hope my videos can keep getting better!
Did not win but ok as I bought some other week now!!
Going to try lower pressures, 16st rider on a decoy🤙
Awesome video enjoyed it.
thanks mate... let me know how you get on..
Have 500+ miles on mine (27.5x2.8) and they are awesome. Definitely heavy and stiff, but the durability is unmatched.
Thanks for the feedback I love when I hear this!
How do these stack up these days against maxxis Assegai?
I actually have the 2.8 on the rear 2.6 on the front and you were right...2.8 feel a lot bouncy!
I should have gone for the 2.6.
yep im really not a fan of the 2.8 great if your not really riding hard..
I have the original Maxxis Rekons (29x2.6) on my bike that weigh about 840g each. These tyres are 1370g and 1450g (F/R) which adds a combined 1140g to the rotating mass.
Do you notice that difference on braking, accelerating and turning?
tires and brakes are the most important thing on a Ebike. I can push the bike 20-30% harder with good brakes and tires.
How do they compare to Maxxis Aggegai
Could you concider to do av test with switcing front and back tyres? Maybe when your rear tire is ready to be replaced so tires will be not to different in wear...
I like to ride with identical tires front and back since that gives me the option to keep the front twice as fresh by moving front to back when back is worn out. Probably more difference in my head then in real life. But anything that helps.... 🙂
very good idea ill let you know..
Just for info I have run a range of Schwalbe tyres on my Scott E-genius - all 29x2.6" - riding around the South Downs in UK My conclusions - Nobby Nic - avoid in 2.6" wide as too much exposed rubber between knobs and very prone to punctures - may be better in narrower versions but gave up with them and went for Magic Mary front and back. Excellent all rounders and good in the British winter mud but wear out quickly on rear in harder summer condition. Replaced worn out Magic Mary with Hans Dampf - disaster as tyre split on first ride - I put it down to harder compund which was not up to the rough surfaces of the South Downs. So went for Eddy Current on rear - good grip until the last few weeks of very wet and muddy conditions in UK. Loses traction very quickly on wet uphill - probably due to tight tread pattern which does not diperse mud very well So have now reverted to the old faithfuls - Magic Mary back and front and now back in control in our lovlely UK mud
thanks for all the information have you tires a Big Betty? right now in winter my go too is Marry Betty for the win
@@SamsBikes unfortunately could not find any Big Betty's in 2.6" width and felt 2.4" too narrow for rear
I recently replaced my tires on my Decoy Pro 29 to a Maxxis Assegai 2.6 up front and a Maxxis Aggressor 2.5 in the rear. I've only ridden on them once in the wet so not a very good judge of how they will perform on loose over hard packed on most of my home trails. Have you ridden the new Assegai yet? Just wanted to get your opionion if you have by chance?
Hey mate I haven’t ridden the Assegai yet but it’s pretty similar to the dhf so I’m sure it’s good up front, aggressor is a good roller but didn’t like it much for steep trails and I think it lasted me a month or hard riding! Let us know how you get one!
@@SamsBikes I have a feeling I might be switching the rear back to a DHR 2 but we'll see.
Hi Sam, are you running 2,4 in the front? By the way, keep up the great work bro! 👊🏼
thank mate... I'm running 2.6 27 front and back I turned my decoy straight 27
You don’t have 29” front and 27,5” back anymore? The thing is I have the same Decoy as you have and most of my riding is mid/heavy trail in the hilly part of The Netherlands (south). My average ride is around 40-50 km’s full blast in Trail-mode, averaging 20 -23 km/hour and with this I find my battery range just on the edge and ai would love to get some more out of it. I’m still riding on the original tires but after 1350 km’s the rear is almost gone now. Going to a mullet 2,4 front and 2,6 back with the Eddy’s was one of my ideas to keep good grip but maybe get a little less rolling resistance and more speed...what are your thoughts Sam?
Y bougth a pair of eddy's..but great in the dry,but they are hopeless in the mud.Do you like them in the winter?y have been 1.5 bar rear and 1.0 front...
I live in Spain hahah I’m actually running Magic Marry and Big Betty these days
I'm looking at replacing my stock maxxis rekon rear tire on my 2020 Stance e2. I'm looking at the smart sam dd. I was happy with the traction of the rekon but want a little more tire life and better puncture resistance. I don't want to add more drag as I do use this bike on the road as well but want to keep around the same level of traction. How does this tire stack up to the rekon? I run Ice spiker pros all winter so it's for the other 3 seasons up here in northern new england any feed back would be appreciated thanks
So it looks like the smart sam dd are not of the tubeless tire design and yes I know that you can use sealant and make most non tubeless tires work tubeless but it's not ideal. Looks like it's back to the drawing board to find a good ebike tire again as I think the eddy currents would have more drag on tarmac then the rekon when I'm on the road? If not and they lasted as long or longer I would go that route{remember I'm referring to the wear that would be occurring when the street}
Hey mate I would look at the new Nobby Nics they should be really good for road and trails
@@SamsBikes My new nobby nic arrived today plan on re shoeing her with it as soon as my bike gets back from the bike shop!
I have a MAXMAX POWER (21) and the Johnny Watts are quite bad for riding offroad and I want better protection for my rims in the back (sometimes rocky here). I would prefer Hans but I can't find a 2.8 Hans with super gravity. What would you choose? Thanks
mate I would defo go for Eddy Current.
@@SamsBikes Ok, on the back I will go for it, thanks. Front has a good suspension. Maybe I will go for a lighter one in the Front.
@@SamsBikes actually maybe I have found an alternative for the back: Specialized Butcher BLCK DMND
Hi. I am 75 years old. I ride road and back trails of Southern Spain as far East as Sierra Navada's! My tribe is 1 soft tail eBike 500w rear. 2 x eTrikes a 26"x1000w Front hub, and a 24"x1500w Front hub! How old do you have to be? Good luck!
Thanks for sharing!
27.5 at 2.8 running 12 on front 15 on back. 35mm internal rim measurement. No burping and loads of grip. Draggy but I have a motor so no issue really
Man really?! That’s mental low pressure I’m down to 18-22 and even that is scary
Sam’s Bikes that’s what I was thinking but the side walls are that stiff it feels ok. I would up the psi to the 20 and 18 for really roughy stuff but general trails and downs and medium jumps there good but thinking about they do feel like the slip before they catch grip. This might be squirm do to the low pressure🤔
U should try using Crank Brothers speedier tire lever, these things make tire install an easy task.
I just ordered some thanks for the heads up
@@SamsBikes U should only need one, but good to have a spare.
Sam , I have a problem with the Maxxis DHR II from my Decoy : on wet/mud DH/trails are very bad :(
I want to buy the Eddys , will I have more grip on Wet / Mud ? Or should I buy Magic Marry ?
I know that in Madrid is never wet , but maybe you have an answer for me.
Thanks !
haha I hate the rain... I never ride in the mud I'm Aussie haha but I would check out a Magic Mary front and Big Betty back. Let me know how you get one!
Still using 'em? Why not?
Does nobody talk about puncture protection nowadays I would like to see swalbe make smart Sam plus in 29x2.60
I have not had a puncher in 9 months on the Eddys
Maybe next time 😉
Sorry bro defo next time!
Haa that was good. Opening seg cracked me up. Ive been waiting a stiffer sidewall for around here for lower psi on the steeps and still have support in the faster berms. Totally agree with your 2.6 rear verses 2.8. Id run one of thise 2.6 ec on the rear. Im not into that intermediatte knob overlapping with the outside edging knobs though and the rounder profile for a front tire. Good review/breakdown though. I hadnt heard much on the ec profile.. Better on the rear personally i think. I prefer edgier front tires. Ive ordered the new michelin dh 34's for my mullet decoy. A bit heavier than the eddy so see how they go
thanks for the feedback this video was alot of work but really fun as well.... let me know how you get on with the 34s im always on the look for the best rubber.
Shuawe? "Schwalbe" is german for "Swallow" (the Bird). Check Google Translate for how to pronounce it, I can't really type it out... But "Shuawe" is WAAAAAAY off! ;-D Thanks for the review, looking at these for my next tires...
That’s how we say it in oz sorry mate 🧉
@@SamsBikes ... Like the Porscha/Porsche thing all over again... 😝
What is your rider weight Sam ?
84kg plus gear so like 92-3
@@SamsBikes have you tried any michelin ebike tyres as yet. If so how do they compare?
Yep didn’t really like him too much super strong but didn’t find the same traction
That Eddy current comment is in danger land. Generally, in physics, Eddy currents just slow things down. ;) ... And IMO the weight, rolling resistance and price resistance is a huge price even for the heaviest Ebikes. If I was a 200 lb rider on a 30 lb regular bike would anyone care?..., so why would tires matter suddenly for an 180 lb rider on a 50 lb ebike?
Can't het these tires hardly anywhere though
These are NIGHTMARE to put on. And when I wanted to take them off I had to cut them in half. Also very heavy. I went for Maxxis DHR II on my Turbo Levo and never look back - same traction on different conditions, much lighter.
Thanks for your input I love mine tires are a personal thing
Ooops Maxxis assegai
REALLY only for gravity stuff. If you ride anything else.... dont... absolutely agree with you Sam but they roll like bricks and playfullnes??? forget it. I will put mine on again when (at last) i will hit some really chunky mountain stuff. Try and turn the motor off and pedal these pigs. You will se what i mean ;-)
Thanks for your opinion I’m pretty sure that’s what I said, marry/ hans for trail riding and eddy for enduro super enduro. I love mine thanks for watching