By all the reviews without riding any of these I'd go 1) DJI Amflow * 2) Canyon Strive:ON 3)Spec Levo * (Would have to drop off the DJI for now bc that would require selling a kidney for me to afford top spec and not available in the U.S. yet anyway.) What?...No love to the Orbea Wild that everyone else seems to gush over?? Thanks for all the great reviews!
I’m a Santa Cruz fan-boy and got a chance to pedal the Vala. Very fun bike! That said, the same day I tried out the new Pivot LT. I had to go with the Shuttle! First few rides on the LT and it’s so good! Fun and poppy enough on mild trails, then comes alive on DH. Coming off a Levo Gen3. Also great! Haha. So many good ones out there right now! Good vid.
@@kinaceman yes. Demo’d one last fall. Put 40 + miles on it. Awesome bike. A bit underpowered tho, especially with no range extender. I’d rather have the Vala, especially with only a 4-5ish lbs weight penalty and tons more power and range.
love the vids! your dedication to testing is for sure the differentiating factor. us riders need numbers other than just weight and watts to make decisions. i personally want to see you test a bafang m620 or m630 bike ASAP
Just bought my dream eMTB bike, Sam, but it didn’t make the list! 😂My Orbea Wild LTD arrived on Friday last week and it’s so good - loving the Gen 5 after coming off an EP8. And the rest of the bike is next level - handling and ride is sublime
@@tinman8888 yep, weighed with pedals (flats, Wolf Tooth) and rear CushCore. It’s a large, 600Wh battery, 29 F&R (DH casings) and it came in at 22.1kgs. I’m very impressed! I just came off a Transition Repeater and it was 24kgs. The TR was amazing but the Wild is next level and brings back some of that analogue feel. I couldn’t ask for more - get one! 😂
👍👍❗ Loved your list Sam. I especially liked how you (like me) still appreciate the Gen 3 Levo I have the opportunity to test ride new bikes (not nearly as much as you) and I keep going back to the overall feel of the Levo. Loved how you threw in that bonus build at the end 👌 THAT IS TRULY A DREAM BUILD!!
Thanks John Yes mate the Levo still stands up to all these bikes and its almost 4 years old... and Yes the Amflow is a killer bike now I'm done the upgrades.
@@SamsBikes Yeah just adding my share of thoughts, because wild has gone mullet in 2025 and it is worth checking out. Your list is awesome and I would gladly ride and test any of these bikes! Especially AMFLOW, hope I get to hop on one some day :)
The Vala really got my attention when released!! Ultimately led me to start comparing new bikes and consequently to buying an Ari Timp Peak. Banger of a bike! Super playful. Biggest downside is 630wh battery is the ONLY option and coming from a 720wh on my fantic I feel the range loss.
Amflow is on my top, too. But the Orbea Wild and the Rise LT are there, too. Word is the YT Decoy SL is a nice ride as well, but comes with the Fazua risks. Will wait. First of all I am after how they handle as a bike, only then as ebikes. I'd likely include Pole bikes (Sonni, Voima) too in the list, especially the Sonni. You should try it!
Love to see the Santa Cruze Vala but with a DJI motor. Seems like DJI just did a mike drop on the whole industry. At least on paper it’s leagues above, I mean power, battery range, weight, integration. Not sure about the Amflow frame but things are going to get super interesting if other companies pick this up.
I’m not sure if you have covered this before but I’m getting a turbo levo and would like to try and replicate the Bosch emtb mode (as best as possible) is there a video for that? Or could you perhaps give me some suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Hi Sam, I agree hundred percent on your List! Die Only Bike what is not on your List and I love is the new Orbea Rise Lt…but with the Vala that‘ll be my Choice..but as a big Specialized Fan..when comes levo gen 4?
Yep alot of people are saying Wild, I tested it and didnt love it.. its good but I feel not in my top 10. I'm with you with the Vala and for the Gen 4... it must be coming soon
Just tried the Santa Cruz Vala and the Heckler SL back to back. Vala has slightly better motor, a bit more power uphill and is 2kg heavier. For me it was the Heckler SL as a clear winner. More agile, more fun, easier to ride and suited my style much better. I'd take the downhill agility of the Heckler SL over the slightly more powerful motor of the Vala.
Hey Sam, you should try and get your hands on a Scor 6080z LT . 190/180 it's a bit on the heavy side but take it through a rock garden and no problem. Plus at 7000.00 us a good value.
I now have the choice between: Turbo Levo Expert 20234/24 (best price), Santa Cruz Vala GXS GX (20% more expensive), orbea Rise LT M 10 (just as expensive as the Vala). Which bike would you buy for the low mountain range and as a bike for everything? The alternative would be the new Levo, but it probably costs 30% more (Expert)
Great video @SamsBikes ! Very good comparison breif. There is so much talk of the flex in the Amflow. Q.... Did you notice the flex in the bike out of the box? If so did your upgrades improve the flex feel? Theres also talk that it gets overwellmed in chunk and its more trail orentated even with upgrades. Do you agree somewhat with that? Im on the fence between the Amflow/Vala/Orbea Wild. Need to make a decision soon :)
Hey Mark did you watch my review? the Amflow is a great Trail Ebike and Flex I didn't really notice that but when the trails got harder you can find the limit... My upgrades has made it a lot better for enduro style riding.
👌I love your rebuild Amflow👍. Your choise of suspension is very nice, because Öhlin TTX22M as a option at the rear is very nice, but as nice as Fox Factory DHX2, because there is not easy to get hold of spare parts if you have Öhlin and living in Sweden now a days😖. I have 4 pice of Öhlin 36 170mm - 180mm forks and the only fork I am satisfied with is the one and only coil fork. The Öhlin forks have to small air chamber to get the fork to be as smooth like the Fox Factory 36mm or the Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate 35mm as have a bigger air chamber. You have to "sacrifice" the ramp up chamber volume to get more air volume and get it just a little bit softer, witch make you lost the meaning with this Öhlin special ramp up. The Öhlin air chamber is own separate part in contrast of Fox or Rockshox hwo have their air chamber in the over fork leg, witch gives them more volume. There is no meaning to have one 180mm fork that you only gets 150mm travel from😂. This Öhlin forks is fore havier people than 85 kg on a havier Emtb, with wrists as Arnold Schwarzenegger😂😂😂. I am now gona take some time to figure it out some way to increase the air chamber volume in my Öhlin or rebuilt thees forks to colil forks😉. Wish me luck😂
Hi Sam….with the new Magic Mary’s what is the rolling resistance like? looking at some of the information online Schwalbe has said the rolling resistance isn’t the best and this is why they made the Albert, a new tread pattern designed to combat rolling resistance due to the radial construction. Always had Mary’s on my previous bikes and looking at getting some for my Levo but torn between the Mary and the Albert.
@ have you tried the Albert gravity soft rear with a Mary trail pro ultra soft front, to get the best of both worlds? British winter is coming and I do like a Mary then.
Sambo on your Amflow did you go with an overstroked rear shock or standard spec and 150mm travel. Looking at one of these but was thinking 38@160mm front and a rear coil that gave me 160 on the back as well. Cheers mate.
Hey mate, at the moment I'm running 170 38s it feels good, I'll defo try it at 160 as well. Unfortunately, you can't over stroke the antlers so I'm running at 150.
Bonjour Sam...il manque les nouveaux Orbea Rise et Wild... même si le moteur Shimano est has been Perso j attend que le Amflow soit dispo en France Et bravo pour tes essais...
If specialized doesn’t focus as much in the race enduro geometry, and if their battery/motor tech leaps bounds over their current system, that bike is going to be the one!
Sam I like your videos but you seem to have a lot of recommendations and picking bikes with never having even ridden them. Perfect example is you don’t even mention the Orbea Wild. A bike that was a top pick for both PinkBike and The Loam Wolf. It’s only gotten better and you don’t even mention it…..lol
Hey mate their are so many great bikes out there and I pick the best bike I feel will be the best unfortunately we only have 48k subscribers and we can’t get our hands on all the bikes! I’ve ridden and tested the Orbea Wild and it’s a good bike but I feel it’s not in the top ten for me and my style
Thanks for your thoughts; I feel I’m very good at reading geometry and understanding the brands so these are my picks as the best e-bikes I wish I could test them all
@@SamsBikes Very questionable rationale... In fact, it reasonably brings your credibility into question. If your policy is simply that you don't include bikes that you haven't been able to test in your list, then it would be somewhat understandable. But to claim that you are good at reading geometry and understanding the brands, etc. - as a basis for not including ANY bikes that you don't test? That is BS and not cool....
@@kyledavis635 I try my best for you riders... and I feel these are the best ebikes fo4 2025 maybe next year I'm bigger and I can get my hands on every ebike I want to test until now ill continue doing it this way.
👍The Rotwild EXC Ultra seems to be the most Interesting bike for me to test, because the rear suspension I guess would be real smooth ans soft, and would not affects the rider negatively as much as a bicycle with a short swingarm😋 I guesses......🤔
👉Frameset👈😅. I whant to build my own bike, I need a frameset.....Now😂. I have contacted Amflowbikes about this bike as a frameset and are still Waiting for answer 😋
EASY....CRESTLINE. If we now have a motor to assit in the climbs, I want a full DH bike. 180 / 180mm all day !! 1st manufacture to make a 170-180 mm enduro Emtb with the DJI motor wins the whole market ! ( I hope its forbidden bikes....Oh Canada ! )
So, 9000 euros in Australian $’s would come to. $14,626.71. Surely that’s not right? If it is then some of those bikes are worth more than my vintage airstream and car put together. That’s highway robbery.
@@SamsBikes I must be really out of touch. But in saying that, you do have some really nice looking bikes on show. So, thanks for the heads up. Appreciate your response..
*too much hype on that amflow, wait a cpl yrs to see how the batteries hold up* no orbea wild on the list? ehhh why mondraker is never included on these kind of lists?
Let’s see but the Amflow is the real deal you really need to try one! Orbea are ok but for me their are better bikes for the top ten and Mondraker same deal they are good but not in my top ten sorry
@@SamsBikes but again. first batch is always not good. yo may get good or bad quality, they dont even mention what cells they use and batteries are the most expensive component on an ebike, besides the motor.. i bought an ebike like 3 yrs ago. first batch and had problems, later on the company did better on the later batches. So never buying first of whatever a company is doin, lesson learned.
Not trying to be funny, but I guess people will ask twice when you say the name Propain Sresh. Sounds weird and more like a LPG Propane leak somewhere..
Sam love the reviews but as all these bikes get smarter, need a new category in the reviews that is the companies cyber security credentials and their personal data privacy policies.
You may not have heard of us yet, but we are committed to earning a place in your rankings. We will be working hard on our next bike model to achieve honorable recognition or placement. 😤
Crestline all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? How many drivetrains will you go through per year riding the Dji motor with all that power? A great bike is the sum of all of its parts, not just the motor.
@SamsBikes the more power you run through anything, the shorter the life in general, right? Especially if you have the same drivetrains. I noticed I go through a chain twice as often on my e bike vs my meat powered bike, must have weak legs🍻😂😂😂😂
I try my best for you riders to give you my pick of top ebikes for 2025... maybe next year I'm bigger and cn test all the ebikes I want until then this is how ill do it.
The rocky mountain altitude powerplay should've been up there stunning bikes with a superb dyname 4.0 motor rid the amflow and od say its on par but with long term reliability can't say that yet about the avinox
How did crestline manage to fit the VPP but not Santa Cruz. People call my crestline a fake Santa Cruz, I say it's more Santa Cruz than a santa cruz itself.
so there you go legengs... What is your favourite ebike for 2025 ?
That Green/Gold Santa Cruz is a beauty, but Strive:On is my choice
By all the reviews without riding any of these I'd go
1) DJI Amflow *
2) Canyon Strive:ON
3)Spec Levo
* (Would have to drop off the DJI for now bc that would require selling a kidney for me to afford top spec and not available in the U.S. yet anyway.)
What?...No love to the Orbea Wild that everyone else seems to gush over??
Thanks for all the great reviews!
1) DJI Amflow
Hey @samsbikes, what’s wrong with the new Orbea Wild, coming with the gen5 motor, as well???
Santa Cruz Heckler SL
I’m a Santa Cruz fan-boy and got a chance to pedal the Vala. Very fun bike! That said, the same day I tried out the new Pivot LT. I had to go with the Shuttle! First few rides on the LT and it’s so good! Fun and poppy enough on mild trails, then comes alive on DH. Coming off a Levo Gen3. Also great! Haha. So many good ones out there right now! Good vid.
Right on legend and lucky you to test them all! Yes 2024 we are all very lucky with most e-bikes
Did you try a heckler SL?
@@kinaceman yes. Demo’d one last fall. Put 40 + miles on it. Awesome bike. A bit underpowered tho, especially with no range extender. I’d rather have the Vala, especially with only a 4-5ish lbs weight penalty and tons more power and range.
love the vids! your dedication to testing is for sure the differentiating factor. us riders need numbers other than just weight and watts to make decisions. i personally want to see you test a bafang m620 or m630 bike ASAP
Santa Cruz vala. Love the brand and bikes and even better with the Bosch motor
Totally i
Just bought my dream eMTB bike, Sam, but it didn’t make the list! 😂My Orbea Wild LTD arrived on Friday last week and it’s so good - loving the Gen 5 after coming off an EP8. And the rest of the bike is next level - handling and ride is sublime
Hope you enjoy it!
Hey mate have you happened to weigh your rig at all? While weight isn't everything I am curious. Cheers.
@@tinman8888 yep, weighed with pedals (flats, Wolf Tooth) and rear CushCore. It’s a large, 600Wh battery, 29 F&R (DH casings) and it came in at 22.1kgs. I’m very impressed! I just came off a Transition Repeater and it was 24kgs. The TR was amazing but the Wild is next level and brings back some of that analogue feel. I couldn’t ask for more - get one! 😂
@@kineticadventures3747 wow that’s pretty impressive alright. Cheers mate.
I’m a huge fan!! Trying to make my decision on my next E-Enduro! My first is Gen 1 Heckler ! Absolute BEAST- but as you know, it’s heavy !!
every Bike on this list are killer
👍👍❗ Loved your list Sam. I especially liked how you (like me) still appreciate the Gen 3 Levo I have the opportunity to test ride new bikes (not nearly as much as you) and I keep going back to the overall feel of the Levo. Loved how you threw in that bonus build at the end 👌 THAT IS TRULY A DREAM BUILD!!
Thanks John Yes mate the Levo still stands up to all these bikes and its almost 4 years old... and Yes the Amflow is a killer bike now I'm done the upgrades.
Can’t wait my amflow comes on Wednesday 💪🏻
Congrats rider enjoy it
Orbea Wild!
Yep it’s ok but I feel my list is better r
The new orbea wild is awesome with mullet link and revised geometry and internals, colors are also great. Still loving my 24 tho
Yes alot of wild comments here... I tested it last year and it was good but I didn't love it.
@@SamsBikes Yeah just adding my share of thoughts, because wild has gone mullet in 2025 and it is worth checking out. Your list is awesome and I would gladly ride and test any of these bikes! Especially AMFLOW, hope I get to hop on one some day :)
@the10rv then there's the fact the Wild has one e bike awards everywhere. I think someone's a hater...😮😂😂😊
The Vala really got my attention when released!! Ultimately led me to start comparing new bikes and consequently to buying an Ari Timp Peak.
Banger of a bike! Super playful.
Biggest downside is 630wh battery is the ONLY option and coming from a 720wh on my fantic I feel the range loss.
Yep the Timp Peak looks great as well
Great review Sam! Thanks 😊
Thanks Legend
Amflow is on my top, too. But the Orbea Wild and the Rise LT are there, too. Word is the YT Decoy SL is a nice ride as well, but comes with the Fazua risks. Will wait. First of all I am after how they handle as a bike, only then as ebikes. I'd likely include Pole bikes (Sonni, Voima) too in the list, especially the Sonni. You should try it!
I'm glad you mentioned the Magic Mary radials. I want to try them but can't find them anywhere.
Hey mate keep trying to find them! Where you based ?
Mate it’s a hard decision to make hahaha I’d love to try that Pivot, looks awesome. But I’ll be more than ok with any other of the list.
Well se are racing next year so start picking your race bike....
That Amflow Enduro is c r a z y N i c e! 🚀
Yes it is sir!
Love to see the Santa Cruze Vala but with a DJI motor. Seems like DJI just did a mike drop on the whole industry. At least on paper it’s leagues above, I mean power, battery range, weight, integration. Not sure about the Amflow frame but things are going to get super interesting if other companies pick this up.
I’m not sure if you have covered this before but I’m getting a turbo levo and would like to try and replicate the Bosch emtb mode (as best as possible) is there a video for that? Or could you perhaps give me some suggestions? Thanks in advance!
would always pick the Turbo Levo SWorks full spec 😁
When you know you know haha
Hi Sam, I agree hundred percent on your List! Die Only Bike what is not on your List and I love is the new Orbea Rise Lt…but with the Vala that‘ll be my Choice..but as a big Specialized Fan..when comes levo gen 4?
Yep alot of people are saying Wild, I tested it and didnt love it.. its good but I feel not in my top 10. I'm with you with the Vala and for the Gen 4... it must be coming soon
If I can choose one from this list... Santa Cruz Vala will be my winner.
It does look pretty rad
I like the Santa Cruz with new Bosch motor. My 2021 Bosch motor has over 8000miles and never a problem.
Yep the Bosch motors are very reliable
Orbea wild
Yep looks like a good bike
@@SamsBikes so you havent even tried one and these are your top 10? i also have a wild and its pretty good
@@angelffalcon3134 Yes have tested the Wild its good but doesn't make my top 10
Just tried the Santa Cruz Vala and the Heckler SL back to back. Vala has slightly better motor, a bit more power uphill and is 2kg heavier. For me it was the Heckler SL as a clear winner. More agile, more fun, easier to ride and suited my style much better. I'd take the downhill agility of the Heckler SL over the slightly more powerful motor of the Vala.
The Wild is truely sorted, versatile and stable!
yep its a good bike
Hey Sam, you should try and get your hands on a Scor 6080z LT . 190/180 it's a bit on the heavy side but take it through a rock garden and no problem. Plus at 7000.00 us a good value.
Sounds interesting
Definitely would want the Amflo for Tahoe riding. Unfortunately, probably won’t be available in the USA for quite awhile 😢!
Santa Cruz Vala, I hope to order one asap!
If your endorsement of the Schwalbe tire is true, then that is absolutely amazing.
I now have the choice between: Turbo Levo Expert 20234/24 (best price), Santa Cruz Vala GXS GX (20% more expensive), orbea Rise LT M 10 (just as expensive as the Vala). Which bike would you buy for the low mountain range and as a bike for everything? The alternative would be the new Levo, but it probably costs 30% more (Expert)
Great video @SamsBikes ! Very good comparison breif. There is so much talk of the flex in the Amflow. Q.... Did you notice the flex in the bike out of the box? If so did your upgrades improve the flex feel? Theres also talk that it gets overwellmed in chunk and its more trail orentated even with upgrades. Do you agree somewhat with that? Im on the fence between the Amflow/Vala/Orbea Wild. Need to make a decision soon :)
Hey Mark did you watch my review? the Amflow is a great Trail Ebike and Flex I didn't really notice that but when the trails got harder you can find the limit... My upgrades has made it a lot better for enduro style riding.
@ thanks, i will check out your review :)
@@markgladwin6650the Wild is truely sorted and stable - give it a crack
👌I love your rebuild Amflow👍.
Your choise of suspension is very nice, because Öhlin TTX22M as a option at the rear is very nice, but as nice as Fox Factory DHX2, because there is not easy to get hold of spare parts if you have Öhlin and living in Sweden now a days😖.
I have 4 pice of Öhlin 36 170mm - 180mm forks and the only fork I am satisfied with is the one and only coil fork.
The Öhlin forks have to small air chamber to get the fork to be as smooth like the Fox Factory 36mm or the Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate 35mm as have a bigger air chamber.
You have to "sacrifice" the ramp up chamber volume to get more air volume and get it just a little bit softer, witch make you lost the meaning with this Öhlin special ramp up.
The Öhlin air chamber is own separate part in contrast of Fox or Rockshox hwo have their air chamber in the over fork leg, witch gives them more volume.
There is no meaning to have one 180mm fork that you only gets 150mm travel from😂.
This Öhlin forks is fore havier people than 85 kg on a havier Emtb, with wrists as Arnold Schwarzenegger😂😂😂.
I am now gona take some time to figure it out some way to increase the air chamber volume in my Öhlin or rebuilt thees forks to colil forks😉.
Wish me luck😂
Thanks for the kind words and good luck with your forks
Hi Sam….with the new Magic Mary’s what is the rolling resistance like? looking at some of the information online Schwalbe has said the rolling resistance isn’t the best and this is why they made the Albert, a new tread pattern designed to combat rolling resistance due to the radial construction.
Always had Mary’s on my previous bikes and looking at getting some for my Levo but torn between the Mary and the Albert.
Albert roll better but Magic grip up better and have a super sharp edge for turning
@ have you tried the Albert gravity soft rear with a Mary trail pro ultra soft front, to get the best of both worlds? British winter is coming and I do like a Mary then.
Sam, when will we see the Levo Gen 4?
That is what I am waiting for .........😋
John it has to be coming soon.
Would you recommend to upgrade the amflow rear shock to coil?
Yes I like it better
Sambo on your Amflow did you go with an overstroked rear shock or standard spec and 150mm travel. Looking at one of these but was thinking 38@160mm front and a rear coil that gave me 160 on the back as well. Cheers mate.
Hey mate, at the moment I'm running 170 38s it feels good, I'll defo try it at 160 as well. Unfortunately, you can't over stroke the antlers so I'm running at 150.
AMFLOW for me
Btw you should ask for alum frame to give it a test as well, seem people talk about flex on amflow.
Alloy frame would be interesting
love my gasgas eec5 with my upgrades, buth that ampflow is very tempting
Yep the Amflow is very impressive
That Amflow looks over-biked ?
Loam wolf guys have all mentioned the flex in the frame, good to hear your thoughts on this.
It feels pretty amazing with my set up
When will the am flow come to the USA?
Hi Sam! Exactly the as my Dream Bikes!!! Would you buy a Levo Gen 3 at the Moment?
Bonjour Sam...il manque les nouveaux Orbea Rise et Wild... même si le moteur Shimano est has been
Perso j attend que le Amflow soit dispo en France
Et bravo pour tes essais...
Amflow incoming soon ❤
Congratulations
One thing I don’t understand why the santa cruz vpp don’t fit in a SC but fit in the crestline……both with electric motors.
haha thats a great point
Love it!!! Amflow coming to US, when?
I have heard other industry people say 4th quarter of 2025, but I’m not sure it’s that true.
Thanks mate, I think mid next year you should be able to order one!
DT EX 471 rims? 25mm of internal widht with 2,5 tires? Why not XM 481 if you want something light?
Ask Bruni the world champion
I have a Levo gen2 and if I could it would be the Levo gen3 . Specialized is the best 😂
If you know you know... the Levo rocks
@SamsBikes Absolutely. The Levo rocks and the next Levo will be probably heaven better
Nikoli!!!!! All the way!
Yes it’s a very pretty ebike
Ordered the new one77 from Cube :), is that not available on your Country?
Not a fan of Cube e-bikes sorry
@SamsBikes interesting! Is it because of the frame or geometry? Cause most of the other main components can also be found on any other e-bike
Is it just me every tine I seen the bottle holder it looks high and like only a baby bottle would clear the shock ?
are you talking about the Amflow? yes with the Ohlins shock its hard to fit a water bottle.
Cannondale Moterra SL Lab71- 19.2kg , eats all of these except maybe the Amflow
Waitin` for the Kenevo SL 3.
If specialized doesn’t focus as much in the race enduro geometry, and if their battery/motor tech leaps bounds over their current system, that bike is going to be the one!
@ Right. 60Nm, 400Wh, 19 kg.
I love my KSL2 so yep you could be on to something
@@SamsBikes 🤗
What about the Orbea Rise LT?
Yep good call
amflow is my next emtb 🎉
It’s very impressive
wonderful
What about Trek Rail. Black Friday sales on now and can pick up cheap, Bosch motor.
not a Fan of the new Trek its ok but not in the top Ten.
Fantastic review, thanks.
Thanks Andrew
Sam I like your videos but you seem to have a lot of recommendations and picking bikes with never having even ridden them. Perfect example is you don’t even mention the Orbea Wild. A bike that was a top pick for both PinkBike and The Loam Wolf. It’s only gotten better and you don’t even mention it…..lol
Hey mate their are so many great bikes out there and I pick the best bike I feel will be the best unfortunately we only have 48k subscribers and we can’t get our hands on all the bikes! I’ve ridden and tested the Orbea Wild and it’s a good bike but I feel it’s not in the top ten for me and my style
@ just seems strange that a bike that’s winning reviews and races and has only gotten better doesn’t even get mentioned.
Lotto me any of these, except the Canyon.
haha yep all these bikes arr killer
Sam! Haven't watched this yet! Is the vala in? Is the cube 177 in? 😁
you should watch it then haha
Vala!
Yes sir
You put out great informative videos, but why do you include bikes you haven't ridden or experience with in the best bike list?
Thanks for your thoughts; I feel I’m very good at reading geometry and understanding the brands so these are my picks as the best e-bikes I wish I could test them all
@@SamsBikes Very questionable rationale... In fact, it reasonably brings your credibility into question. If your policy is simply that you don't include bikes that you haven't been able to test in your list, then it would be somewhat understandable. But to claim that you are good at reading geometry and understanding the brands, etc. - as a basis for not including ANY bikes that you don't test? That is BS and not cool....
@@kyledavis635 I try my best for you riders... and I feel these are the best ebikes fo4 2025 maybe next year I'm bigger and I can get my hands on every ebike I want to test until now ill continue doing it this way.
Wow, what a nice amflow you have, learned a lot from you and thank you for that. When riding does a limiter hit like a wall with all that torque?
not really.... I'm normally riding uphill so hard to hit the limitor
AMFLOW, and all the all significant others....
hahaha
The Canyon looks a bit outdated. The Merida is very good, I love the old one, so this could be great again, imagine then avinox motor in it.
yep I'm loving the e160 but yes it would be loads better with the DJI motor
New norco range vlt?
sweet bike but a little heavy
👍The Rotwild EXC Ultra seems to be the most Interesting bike for me to test, because the rear suspension I guess would be real smooth ans soft, and would not affects the rider negatively as much as a bicycle with a short swingarm😋
I guesses......🤔
Totally mate that’s what I’m thinking 🤔 I really hope I get to ride it next year
👉Frameset👈😅.
I whant to build my own bike, I need a frameset.....Now😂.
I have contacted Amflowbikes about this bike as a frameset and are still Waiting for answer 😋
Frame sets are hard to get unfortunately
The vala in not even a SC
The Levo? The same old bike with a huge amount of motor problems.
The Amflow - at least you got one of three
The only bike I would buy is the Amflow
It’s a super bike and ebike motor system
@SamsBikes I am in Melbourne and have had my PL PRO now for a week and it's an awesome bike I am very happy with it 😊
EASY....CRESTLINE. If we now have a motor to assit in the climbs, I want a full DH bike. 180 / 180mm all day !! 1st manufacture to make a 170-180 mm enduro Emtb with the DJI motor wins the whole market ! ( I hope its forbidden bikes....Oh Canada ! )
No Trek Rail?
Na not a fan of the new Trek
Trek slash plus
Yea na not with the TQ for me
Have to go Trek Rail for CX but it also adds 10lbs to the rig
So, 9000 euros in Australian $’s would come to. $14,626.71. Surely that’s not right? If it is then some of those bikes are worth more than my vintage airstream and car put together.
That’s highway robbery.
check all highend bikes these days thats what they cost.
@@SamsBikes
I must be really out of touch. But in saying that, you do have some really nice looking bikes on show. So, thanks for the heads up. Appreciate your response..
*too much hype on that amflow, wait a cpl yrs to see how the batteries hold up*
no orbea wild on the list? ehhh
why mondraker is never included on these kind of lists?
Let’s see but the Amflow is the real deal you really need to try one! Orbea are ok but for me their are better bikes for the top ten and Mondraker same deal they are good but not in my top ten sorry
@@SamsBikes but again. first batch is always not good. yo may get good or bad quality, they dont even mention what cells they use and batteries are the most expensive component on an ebike, besides the motor.. i bought an ebike like 3 yrs ago. first batch and had problems, later on the company did better on the later batches. So never buying first of whatever a company is doin, lesson learned.
Not trying to be funny, but I guess people will ask twice when you say the name Propain Sresh. Sounds weird and more like a LPG Propane leak somewhere..
yep kinda a strange name but killer looking bike
is Rail + not 2025 ?
Rail seems heavy and boring 🥱 if I’m honest
Nebo Peak by Ari.
Pivot
Yes Sir
No yeti???
That’s a good call ☎️ I wish Shimano had a range extender
Why not the Orbea Rise?
So many great bike in 2024 and I’m sorry these are my favorites
Sam love the reviews but as all these bikes get smarter, need a new category in the reviews that is the companies cyber security credentials and their personal data privacy policies.
good point
No Rail?
Nicoli due to the belt drive
No Whyte Elyte bikes?
None of these bikes have enough travel. Crestline getting close...
For me to much travel can make a bike boring you need big ass trails to go with it
@@SamsBikes My Voima begs to differ...
You may not have heard of us yet, but we are committed to earning a place in your rankings. We will be working hard on our next bike model to achieve honorable recognition or placement. 😤
Bulls VUCA EVO AM 2
Amflow or Nicolai
Good call
You're recommending bikes you haven't ridden?
I try and do my best to get all my favorite bikes maybe next year I will thanks for your support
Crestline all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? How many drivetrains will you go through per year riding the Dji motor with all that power?
A great bike is the sum of all of its parts, not just the motor.
I’m actually not sure about that the power delivery is so smooth on the DJI but only time will tell
@SamsBikes the more power you run through anything, the shorter the life in general, right? Especially if you have the same drivetrains. I noticed I go through a chain twice as often on my e bike vs my meat powered bike, must have weak legs🍻😂😂😂😂
Anything with a MGU
Have you tired one!
@ no, but it’ll be on my next bike
Waar is de nieuwe trek rail
No Trek fuel exe?
Random opinions mixed with marketing. How can Sam include bikes that he did not test rids?
I try my best for you riders to give you my pick of top ebikes for 2025... maybe next year I'm bigger and cn test all the ebikes I want until then this is how ill do it.
No Orbea....
not this time
There’s only one😂
which one haha
@ Amflow 🫵
NO MONDRAKER???????????????????
The rocky mountain altitude powerplay should've been up there stunning bikes with a superb dyname 4.0 motor rid the amflow and od say its on par but with long term reliability can't say that yet about the avinox
Sl montara?
Yep looks good
How did crestline manage to fit the VPP but not Santa Cruz. People call my crestline a fake Santa Cruz, I say it's more Santa Cruz than a santa cruz itself.
That’s a good point
Considering that the people who started Crestline all worked for Santa Cruz, it is the poor man Santa Cruz
And VPP sucks balls. The links rotate in opposite directions and cause massive pedal kickback