What is Happening with iPhone Camera?
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- What exactly is happening with the iPhone's camera?
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When we all rely on camera processing, there's no reliable way to measure and judge "better" anymore, but this is a leading issue in a lot of neural network and AI tech. Developers can always guide it, but who decides what and how decisions are made when a chunk of those decisions aren't and can't be made by humans (devs or users)? We're living in strange times.
Yeah
I would guess at least some companies run tests similar to what MKBHD did to figure out what style people like most. Other companies might just rely on for example some photography professionals opinion. Some might do both.
Mamoru Oshii was onto something.
it's been like this since years tho when it comes to smartphone cameras
This has nothing to do with AI lol. There was never a way in the first place to judge what arbitrary configuration is the best. Marques prefer the look on the iPhone, maybe someone in Asia will prefer the look of the Xiomi. None of these strategies is "better" than the other.
I've come to deeply appreciate how you explain these topics. I do I.T. and I find myself overexplaining pretty often and accidentally confusing people by trying to be too clear. You have mastered the art of teaching without overwhelming the listener. Thanks for everything you do!
Totally agree. Excellent comment!
Very true. Definitely a good skill if you need to engage with non-technical audiences professionally. Getting the idea across cleanly and without seeming patronizing.
This comment makes me think you’re on the spectrum
So true
Him and dave2d are really good at explaining things in layman's terms
You promote cobalt slavery? Wtf
This is prime journalism.
This amount of attention to details, story telling is really world class.
Thanks Marques for showing the meaning of being a master of your craft.
What prime journalism lol? He conducted supposedly scientific tests, and then completely ignored the results to call iphone the best camera
@@dragonsaige then he made a video to talk about iphone camera problem xD
@@dragonsaige Congratulations on completely missing the point as explained in this video.
@Darkfarfetch what exactly is "woke skin tone"?
@@dragonsaige lol sometimes i say to myself why am i not a ytuber, literally you can find your own flock of sheeple (no off3nc3 to any1) and make money out of them, all you gotta do is tell them what they want to hear, even not, you will eventually find another flock that will like what they are hearing.... I am not talking about this guy specifically (actually puts some work in the video, watched him and others to decide which phone to take as an upgrade) but in general.
The blind test sounds like a great idea and entertaining result. More of these tests would be appreciated
From 3:57 to 4:12, he explains the high sensitivity ,noise reduction, sharpening and over processing of images, not only verbally but also by changes in the video to help the viewer understand it visually as well! That's brilliant! 😁
Omg I can’t believe it either .. Wow just Wow 😂
thats mkbhd for ya :D
I love how much attention for detail is put for a RUclips video
also did not notice, very nice
Efforts 🔥👏
Honestly I hope Marques makes videos forever because these kind of sit down, calm explanations of everything tech is what I am here for
His explication is soothing and at the same time very informative not every body can do that. Sometimes I try to explain it like he does but never get it across like he does. It's his natural niche.
With the way AI innovation is going, he might very well continue making videos forever as a digital avatar or something similar
Petition to make Marques immortal.
Totally agree 👍
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Yep! A great explanation for why I have to manually adjust every iPhone photo I take in order for the image to come out as I would like. Generally I find the phone prefers over exposure to light everything in frame, and in the process loses so much mood and subtlety. Almost every shot I take requires a tap on the brightest part of the screen and then further decreased exposure by a step or two from there. Said in another way, the photos are not just photons and camera processing, but also user processing. Not to mention any post-processing (which I personally avoid).
Marques...your team and you, are making one of the most educational and easy to understand technical videos on RUclips. Great work.
I think when you initially purchase a phone, it should have a survey option when setting up the camera app to allow you to pick from photos you prefer over others. Therefore the software can personalize to the user's liking.
This is such a smart idea, a sort of small test , maybe show a variety of photos of different subjects and have you pick through and then calibrate the camera according to your selections.
Agreed. Like that's a billion dollar idea right there. Similar to Apple's Photo Styles (or whatever you call it) where you can actually adjust the processing of the photo, but more user-simplified, powerful, and in-depth.
I would love that function. For the lazy ones you can just add some preset calibrations made from professional photographers
Quick, patent this before Apple does!
That’s brilliant idea in my opinion
"Partly Photons, but Primarily Processing" is the most eloquent way of explaining modern smartphone cameras that I've ever heard. Great video, Marques.
I liked the quadruple P's, but coulda have been a quintuple with just the standard Peace straight after. "Partly Photons, Primarily Processing...Peace".
but when it s primarily photons and partly processing (or not proc), phones camera get shot down ( xperia line) by almost everyone...so.....processing is the trend.
@@vaudou74 I get what you're trying to get at, but nope! Old Pixels and Sony Xperia 1 mk 2, 3 and 4 takes the best most naturalistic true to life photos hands down. Because both the new Pixels, Samsungs and iPhones have an over sharpening, an over saturation, an over exposure and an over processing in general issue! And not a small one.. And regarding the iPhones in particular.. They always had this strange off putting green/yellow tint/tone as far as I can tell. Maybe not so much on the first three or four models, but from then on for sure, as far as I can remember. It has become better. I.e. less of an issue with every new model. But it's still there. Oh, and you forgot to mention that btw! In fact.. correct me if I'm wrong here.. But I don't think that MKBHD ever mentioned it. And pretty much no other tech reviewer either. Anyhow.. that green/yellow tone/tint is horrendous! And the damn phone seems to add it to every picture by default.. yyiiiikes! Makes all people look like they are being seriously ill/sea sick, lol!
And let's not even start venturing into the "beauty-mode-by-default-smoothing-China phones".. 🥴😖😫😫
This video explains a lot. When I moved from the iPhone 8 Plus to the 12 Pro, I was convinced the 8 Plus took better photos. Now I know why - because they were processed a lot less. Apple really needs to up its camera game. What looks good in a lab will be very different in real-world photography scenarios. Why compute at all - we should have full control over editing or leaving the pic in its original form.
A lot of my friends with newer iPhones often ask me "what phone have you got?!" because my photos are so clear and vibrant. I have an iPhone 11 and I think it takes much better photos than my friends 12s and 13s. After watching this video I think I'm just going to upgrade to an 11 pro.
Very interesting insight! Recently switched from 11 Pro to 14 Pro, and feel like the difference is fairly insignificant (for the purposes for which I use the camera), leading to the question "what is happening with iPhone camera?"
I switched from 11 pro max to 14 pro. And I feel it’s much better quality of picture and video
O hi didn't expect to find you here
@@nohjh93 that's just your apple brain coping with how much money you wasted by buying an apple product
same. Returning my 14 pro. It's not worth the money
Activate the pro mode. With that enabled the pictures suddenly are insane. The level of detail is unmatched with any smartphone. Also the processing is much different. Especialle with brightness set to -0.3 pictures look superb.
This is a Brilliant video. Not only did you break down this complex topic so well, however created & edited the special effects to show people want you are talking about deserves an award
Thank you man for making this video. It helps me confirm I'm not seeing things lol. I have both an iPhone 14 pro and Pixel 6A. I find myself reaching for my 6A for photo taking most every time. Especially low light. The 14 pro does major over processing in 48mp mode with low light situations. It's terrible. I have to turn off, so to speak, the 48mp res for low light. The 6A just works, love it.
I couldn't have agree more! Well done and loving this video you and the team put together. thank you M.
What’s happening is they will still sell in unimaginable numbers with no end in sight
I hate how Apple won't release imessage on androids
@@en_vy I have an android...I've never struggled to message anyone lol
Yes they sell so much because it is a status symbol. Even though, like his tests prove, people don't prefer the camera. For stills at least. If other phones like pixel could catch up in the video department things could change.
@@en_vy we need good competition because as of now we are losing fast! Look at flagship phone prices now versus a few years ago it’s turning into the Nvidia gpu prices situation but getting worse
@@en_vy Switch.
I think you’re correct with this. I personally wish we could get more of the “preview” pic vs what the post processing pics look like. Take a sunset pic for example, they look different on the preview vs what actually saves to the camera roll (iPhone
14 pro max). This works well on some pics but I’d prefer the most natural / real looking pic myself.
Probably has to do with the fact that you think what’s shown to you on the screen looks perfect when you hit the shutter button
The Pixel has an option to "save as preview"
How do you see the preview on iPhone?
@@Anankin12 so does samsung
@@Anankin12 but I think it might just be for the selfie cam
Im not quite sure
This was a really done video. Insane how machine learning / ai has significantly tuned captures to perceived quality.
Your videos have been WAY MORE philosophical lately... I love them! Keep it up
I’m not happy with the focusing distance of the 14 Pro. I had a much easier less frustrating photo taking experience with the 11 Pro I upgraded from. Not to mention the 14 Pro screen I’ve had for 2.5 months has way more scratches on it than the 11 Pro that I had for 3 years… it’s taken several steps back this generation
Just use a screen protector
In terms of the focusing distance, it’s because of the larger sensor.
Try up close ultrawide photos or step back and take a 2X shot
well, at least you paid the non-inflated price for this one. I, as a European, upgraded from my 11 Pro Max to a Pixel 7 Pro, partly because of increased prices (1449€/$ for the base 14 Pro Max). I don't know how I would feel if I actually spent that kind of money on a worse experience ^_^'
Scratches💀…bro that’s a you problem get a damn screen protector and this is with any phone or even any device and just be careful and there should be no scratches 😂🤣everything else you said was fine but the scratches is a human error
Why don't you have a screen protector
Cheers for including a clip from our blind camera comparison! I personally agree about the iPhone not necessarily improving lately for photos. I was just chatting with a friend who says he now shoots video and pulls frame grabs from that for his photos because of how much better it looks, overall. 🤷🏻♂️
Between watching the video and seeing you comment, I’m subscribing
I’ve thought for a while that my iPhone’s video quality looks better than the photo quality, and could never figure out why. Nice to see someone find this to be true as well.
Totally agree, especially in darker scenes! The iPhone 14 Pro night mode looks like a pixelated oil painting now.
I saw someone doing a Camera A B Test between the 14 Pro and an iPhone 7 and the 7 genuinely won at least for video, because the 14 Pro is just oversharpened and the 7 was pleasantly soft with enough detail, which is just what you want in a video camera
Is Apple likely to improve this with future versions of iOS? Could the iPhone 13 with iOS 17 improve upon this (having more accurate light representation instead of lighting up the entire face of a person) since its just a software thing or would I need to get a new phone?
This the smartest, clearest, most well done explanation of smartphone image processing I've heard on RUclips. Kudos.
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What a review. Learnt so much about the camera system. Thank you!
This reminds me of someone in a podcast saying that it's increasingly hard to distinguish between good and bad TV series, since when everything looks so good these days you are fooled into thinking the story, acting, everything is good, and you don't understand why you are left with a feeling of emptiness inside after watching it. The same feeling is increasingly true with watching photography, as images with bad composition, uninteresting subject matter, etc, still look technically perfect and professionally exposed. Technical tools aimed to help laypeople get better result end up creating this eerie unnaturally "perfected" version of reality, largely devoid of anything interesting.
I dunno about that. Lot of people agree the Avatar movies are the best looking movies of all-time but have mediocre stories.
Yes, you're spot on!
@@robertmusil1107 I would like to add a similar title, Project I.G.I. I mean the graphics are not even close to newer FPS games but, man, the storyline is so well put together that the game feels like a "real" mission and not some senseless dogfight. Some other titles could include Stronghold: Crusader, Age of Empires II and such games.
A little grain, and dirtiness really help ground the photo in reality, maybe it’s why polaroids are so popular as it often encapsulates your experience with that moment.
@@robertmusil1107 BattleBit is a decent example
You seriously put out some of the highest quality content around. Just everything about it is fantastic. Keep doing you my man - you kill it.
Killing is bad
@@SarmadTechLab Lol. Not in this case. I think there’s a translation issue there 😁
@@SarmadTechLab 😆
Another ass kisser😔😔😔
@@Xenaman 😂😂😂 People like you are everything that is wrong with this world. I recently discovered his channel and as a fellow creator I find his work extremely impressive and inspirational. I know I appreciate kudos, so why not extend them to him on a job well done?
Get out of here with your meaningless negativity.
Marques,
Thank you for explaining this problem and the process of how a smart phone camera works. It’s really helpful……please keep making great videos.
Sir, you have done an excellent job of explaining. Much appreciated. Well done !!!
This might be my favorite video of yours and I’ve been watching since the OG days. As a professional photographer, I’ve always had trouble explaining to others that the phone camera test doesn’t mean much to me because of several different factors. There is just so much that goes into what I personally look for in a photo that an average person doesn’t understand because they’re simply looking at the final processed photo and that’s it. Thanks for making a video I can share with orhers!!
Copy and paste and this was my exact thinking. I love this guy. He's so on it.
Yep, also, reduce the resolution and size of the photos, and you're left out with the first impression.
This leads to a very interesting debate on what's "good" and what's "liked", and why what's "good" is considered so and why the qualities you judge things on (and perhaps most experts judge things on) have to be different from what the common mass judges things on.
Meat rider
@@Gjd94 hmm. Weird.
The interesting part in the blind test for me was how important accurate representation of dark skin tone is. I spent a lot of time between images asking "Which one is more accurately representing the tone of Marques' skin?" because some were absolute trash, and that was the easiest thing for me to differentiate in pictures.
Nice talk chat GPT
That's the weird part. What if have never seen mkbhd in real life.
@@CarlJohnson-iv7sn I'd imagine someone with such a high production value would colour-correct their skin tone in videos.
@@LJdaentertainer bro this is how I talk. I took it really personally when I played around with ChatGPT and it's writing read exactly like every essay I've ever written.
And that’s also the reason why a test with other skin tones will give you completely different results.
I can’t even explain with words how good this video was!! So informative wow
That's why you're the best Marques! Amazing explanation one more time :)))
im so glad this is being addressed.
nearly every photo i take i look at, and I see the software processing it
a couple seconds after and it makes the image look worse in my opinion.
OMG, I'm glad someone finally brought this to light. I've had iPhone 13 Pro for more than a year. I upgraded from iPhone XS. At first, I was excited about the camera performance, especially in low light. However, then I started noticing the heavy processing mentioned in the video and unnatural subject overexposing. Also, any photos with high contrast scene look like a very bad HDR overprocessing. As a result, despite having a phone with incredibly capable camera sensor and lens (we would've only dreamed of this 5 years ago), many of my photos just look like overprocessed rubbish. It feels absolutely crazy to me that there's not way to turn these "smart" background processes. Now I would much prefer my photos the way they come straight out of camera just on my old iPhone XS. I don't think this is this really what Apple wanted to achieve with this? Well, perhaps the issue will get elevated since it's getting more attention. Thanks for bringing this to light Marques!
I don’t know why this was never mentioned before
Same here with iPhone 14 Pro. The AI image processing is doing worst than ever with this new module even when RAW Is Turned on. Image sharpening is way off, HDR is too agressive and low Light photos are noisy with no texture. Ultra wide camera is much worst than main
You are right! They look so overprocess. I have a Sony mirroles camera as well and the difference is night and day betwen them. They need to solve this problem, no one want’s a photo that process, it dosn’t look real. If you have rare hair, the HDR is so agressive that you see trew the hair like crazy.
I completely agree. Sometimes I refer to even taking a picture in certain scenarios where I know it’ll just be over edited rubbish.
I have the 14 pro max and I haven’t had any good pictures since the X. I really wish you could turn it off.
Indoor iphone photos are not that good than xiaomi and google pixel
Definitely appreciate the depth this video goes into when examining real life vs what the camera produces!
I'm currently on a very conservative budget as I've just recently begun my journey into making content. I use an outdated iPhone SE 1st gen as my actual phone, and I use an iPhone SE (2nd gen) as a dedicated camera (no sim card) for when I want to capture video in the outside world, and use a Razer Kiyo Pro for my at-home / online adventures. Something I notice with the iPhone SE (2nd gen) is that when I zoom in, it feels like the quality of the picture or video suffers immensely. Eventually I'll upgrade and I am hoping the newer Iphones retain a lot of detail even when zoomed in! I can't afford the latest and greatest but I'm stilled impressed with how quickly the camera technology in our smartphones improves, and how if you just wait a few years you can get some serious bargains on refurbished iphones! The older I become the more I can't stomach handing over top dollar just to have the latest and greatest, just to watch how you can buy it a couple years later for a small fraction of the price!
Thanks for the useful info! Great video!
Godspeed and God bless!
I know you use the default camera app on the phones you test to be able to judge the camera in a way that it will be most used by everyday consumeres, but when it comes to getting the best out of a phone camera do you use third party apps or do you find better results from the pro modes that are build within the default camera app? I ask because i use a OnePlus 7t Pro and find that the best results come from the GCam app, and was curious on your experience and thoughts on this.
Great video Marques. I liked how you explained the details of cell phone photography and how different this video was in comparison to your typical review videos. This video was great because you explained something very complex in a very simple, understandable manner to the general public. Happy 2023 to you!
The intro and animations in this video are next level, keep it up Marques!
Every. Video.
I mean it’s the whole team working
@@rspec122 how tf is this simpin
@@rspec122 I swear that there are people who probably only watch the intro and dont care about the content. Its annoying.
Simply the best way to put it, perfect explaining
I'm so happy you're still making videos :)
I like your channel because you dont just "review" and "compare" but also give analysis data, and reasons, even researching physics and engineering behind it.
be for real there is zero technical explanation in this video lmfao the dickriding is crazy. It's a good video but nothing like you mentioned
Ive seen hundreds of smartphone camera videos and for some reason this one just really helped me understand everything that goes behind the software and what a picture actually is. So thank you very much!
Love this new intro Marques! Keep it up!
The production quality of this video is phenomenal!
Really enjoying you summing up using alliteration in these recent videos. Every second of your videos show the hardwork you guys are putting in. Keep up the great job.
This explains a lot. Just recently I was using a Pixel 4a, while my daughter has a 13 Pro. We both love taking photos, usually with a lot of people in the shot and everyone, *everyone* including me kept getting blown away how the 4a's photos could perform toe to toe in terms of image quality, sometimes even better and all of the time when it comes to low light shots.
A few weeks ago I made the move to a 14 (regular). Although the camera experience is better (and the ultra wide is awesome).. I cant help but compare its photos back to my 4a and prefer those.
Buy pixel 7 or wait for our dear pixel 8❤️💯⚡⚡⚡
I think something is wrong with my Pixel 4a because it takes some of the worst photos I've ever seen on a smartphone from the past 5 years. Compared to my family who also own a 4a or other Pixel model
@@markowalski1 reset
@@infinitysaiyan No he should just wait for the iphone 16 or 17
🧢 they’re terrible
Inspiring. Very well explained. Just crazy
What a great observation and testing. Thumbs 👍👍
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and all the research and tests you all do, GREAT JOB!!
These videos are the best and most honest commentary on technology. Thank you for all this great content.
IPhone still on same , beta this beta that, it's not new technology, same thing.
Ehhh... not when it comes to Tesla and Elon.
This kind of videos are a clear explanation why you are the very best reviewer
What an engaging and excellent video! Thank you Marques!
Love the way you take a deep dive into a topic and notice even the smallest details and then manage to explain them so good.. Keep up the good work, love the channel✌️🙏
Excellent presentation. I like the video effects illustrating the features. Good research and analysis. Definitely one of the best videos from MKBHD.
Marques does such a great job explaining
Overprocessed, that's the word I've been looking for, and the way you broke it down makes so much sense!
The way you included the cinematography at 3:57 of the various smartphone camera processing (lighting, sharpening , etc.) is dope!!!
Man, the live changes to the image while explaining the overprocessing was yet another impressive feat of this video, I hope the editor is making as much money as he/she should. Said it once, will keep saying it, this is the best tech channel. I just love this channel!
That was my favorite part, too!
You can rest assured the editor is making bare minimum probably like an average salary of like 60 grand a year maybe 70 grand.
@@ZxAMobile
"bare minimum"
"70 grand"
pick one
That's not even impressive. The hell?? You literally just insert photos on editing software and add text to. Why impressed with that? Literally every video does picture insertions
As I watched your video, I was really impressed with the content and production value, then I looked and saw you have 16.6M subscribers! I have one question about your gear?? What are you using to get such high quality audio?
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Please do a follow up to with video. iPhone 15 and 15 pro have not improved significantly.
I've always 'watched' MKBHD videos, but recently I started really 'enjoying' them because of all the little details that raise the bar in production quality. Best tech channel ever.
So, I’m an audio engineer as well as an artist, & I can say that the same saturation of processing is happening in the audio world just as much as the visual. Over processed vocals or photos are never good 🎈
Autotune! Ugh!
What do you guys think of Dolby's audio recording app? As a musician who uses those recordings to record sketches of songs, I'm quite impressed
@@MennoNehernot autotune in a lot of circumstances. you can usually tell if the autotune is supposed to be intentional. if you’re left guessing whether they want you to hear it or not, that’s a bad autotune job
And Auto tune has gotten so ubiquitous that you don't know what a singer's voice actually sounds like anymore.
Not the same at all lmao
Wow!!! You said some mind blowing things ( to me) well done . Thank you
Your videos are always so informative and well made 🙌
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I really want to focus on what Marques is talking about but just simply amazed at how the editing team of this channel is mind blowing. The quality of production, the simplicity yet when you think deeply, you realized that it was really complex. Now I know the reason why MKBHD don’t upload as often as any other channel does because one MKBHD video is produced meticulously. Simply mind blown! 🤯
I'm glad you mentioned this as I've noticed something is definitely up with the 14 Pro camera. Over the last few weeks, I've had a couple times where I take a picture of something indoors and the quality is just...not up to par like it usually would be. Then I grab my Pixel 7 Pro and it captures exactly what I was hoping to get with the 14 Pro. I usually keep the iPhone on me as a reliable way to get a great pic and excellent video at any time, but now I can't really trust it with pics. It'll be P7P for pics and 14 Pro for videos only.
Just like me 😂
Same feeling on 13 pro max.
this is the way
Dang you got the newest apple and google phone.
So you happen to have both these phones ? Yeah !?
Really great technical knowledge and well presented
I love the way you talk 😂 its so real doesn't sound forced or over rehearsed or like your reading a script.
Sounds so good.
I'm a public speaker and I have to say keep up the good work bro
Love that you rendered the actual effects you were talking about! Amazing demo!
Its content like this that makes me a huge fan of your Marques! Love these insights! I encourage you to do more such insightful videos as these videos are what differentiate you from the rest of the tech youtubers - anyone can do a review but only a few can understand and present such insights! Thanks Marques!
One of the best breakdowns I've enjoyed on a while.
This might be the best and most informative gadget video i have ever seen.
Love your high sensitivity, noise reduction, & over sharpening edits you made to the video when discussing those issues
I’m so glad you spoke to this. I just upgraded from the XS to the iphone 14 max pro last month, and was driving me crazy how much it auto enhances the photos. Still a great camera system but I like keeping photos as natural as possible.
It’s not natural at all
@@albertocoss734 shot in raw that s it
shoot Raw or select a preset style and adjust it to your liking.
@@nikthesinger RAW is terrible for the average user, it has basically no processing and huge file size, it is meant for photographers that edit the photos later through software like photoshop and lightroom. A much better option is to get a more feature-rich camera app like Halide and tweak it to your liking. It will still produce relative small file sizes and process them to your liking. Apps like that can react much quicker than apple purely because they can release updates every few days, thus they tweak based on feedback at a rapid pace.
Then you need to buy a real camera, not a sh&thole with a tiny diaphragm. The quality of the image depends on the amount of light absorbed. which is proportional to the lens diameter.
Very interesting subject, and I learned a lot from this video! This is great journalism.
Sometimes you "want" to have a face half in shadow, for dramatic effect. Having software that makes faces look evenly lit can limit creativity.
Fantastic video! I have just started to use an iPhone 14 after using an 11 for several years, mainly for work. The quality of the few shots I have taken for use in my (litho printed) magazine have been pretty shocking. The effects in some images are almost like Photoshop's watercolour or dry brush filters. The frankly weird lighting effects on human faces (which is the main subject I shoot) mean that I am seriously thinking of sending the phone back from whence it came. I thought I was getting an upgrade with the 14, but I feel that I have gone several large steps backwards. Surely Apple can introduce a 'classic' mode which allows you to switch off all the over-processing which is messing with a perfectly good sensor?
iPhone 14 is better than 14 pro?
The blind test was great, kudos MKBHD.
I have both the Pixel 7 Pro and the 14 Pro Max and use both on a daily. Yeeeaaaahh, while the 14 Pro Max has it's strengths, if you wanted to just take a photo, dang the 7 Pro is something else.
Like iPhone isn't bad whatsoever, it just needs tuning.
You are doing well @HelloHorizon having the world's best photography phone for your photos and the world's best video phone for your videos. Happy days for you bro. 👍
I love your delivery of the issue. Made it really easy for me to understand, and you've obviously done the research. I've recently upgraded from an iphone 6 to 13pro, only because upgrades don't happen on the 6 anymore. I was always fiddling with add on lenses to try and improve macro and telephoto to blow them up a bit. And I've had Moment lenses for a while now that are pretty good for that side of things. But the software compensations you talked about were fascinating. I did not realise they were that intrusive.
videos like this are the reason you are one of the best creators on the platform
FANTASTIC Video!
This comparison is awesome, validates my frustration with taking photos with phones... Last time I liked my photos from my phone was with iPhone 4.
That in turn got me into photography and bought dedicated cameras for my photos.
Try this apps: Halide or Nomo Raw.
man, you contents are soooo good! The script, flow, quality and story telling... dude, you are excellent. Re: camera and processing - I feel like the "better" depends upon the two types of audience. One, who knows about the properties that makes a photo and second, a general population where all they want is "pretty" pictures. I bet, anyone hardly prints those pictures, enlarges them and puts them on a huge (wall) frame - they tend to do that with professionals who takes these pictures with the camera system that they know.
Thanks for the insight! What I'd like to see is a test with alternative camera apps, like Halide for example and shooting in RAW.
Exactly this happened with my friend. He had iphone 14 pro max on a trip but did not like overprocessed photos at all. He was more pleased with my 2016 $250 pocket camera as it gave very realistic image with details and some real depth effects.
Great insights. I'm currently looking to be radical and change from SLR to smart phone only. Being an old analogue darkroom guy this is a big step and I have been processing digital on photoshop and Lightroom. So question which would make a good review comparison is with these big phone sensors how are they on true Raw, can it be accessed and how good are they at information gathering so I can to my own raw processing to get a look I like rather than as you describe software assumptive looks.
This channel has basically been my tech class. Learnt a lot. Thanks Marques.
one channel should not be your main source of anything.
Love the real time visual representation through animation and editing, makes it so easy to understand what you're talking about. Like when you say over-sharpened, it's not as jarring as seeing it happen then you're like ok that's bad. Great work man, keep it up!
Great video. I've wanted to learn about this subject for some time now. I swore I preferred the photos my iphone 6 took and now I know why.
Great presentation.
I am glad this is getting highlighted by tech reviewers like Marques. Hope Apple takes note and gets this fixed ASAP.
If it doesn't hurt their stock price, they won't care.
Thank you for validating what I have been feeling man. I went from the 13 Pro to the 14 Pro and have found that the regular pictures on the 14 Pro have a ‘blandness’ to them in comparison to the 13 Pro. I have been resorting to either Portrait mode to just recording videos to get those desired results. I’m hoping Apple keeps tweaking the software to get the 14 Pro back on track - in my humble opinion
@@kingsalvy138 use the ProRAW image and edit it, first dialing down on all the lighting correction.
@@andreasbrand3191 how? In the picture app?
If people stopped buying a new phone every year that 'be nice
All my photos on the 14 pro are blurry
Why upgrade after a year?
Well said!
I love your content, man… but can We take a minute to appreciate the kick ass job your team do? Lights on point, set looks amazing, editing is *chef's kiss*. Seriously!
This is incredible, Marques. Your way of explaining stuff would have me sit down and listen about anything. You could explain why water is wet and I would sit there listening quietly for hours.
actually an interesting question^^
Your dumb this guy has been biased since 8 years ago when he was skinnier than a pole
I confess that you are truly correct, Marques talks a lot 😅🤣
And he can’t be bothered to acknowledge your comment
@@lateral1385 then why did you acknowledge my comment?
This proofs that my comment has grabbed your attention which is why you read and replied to it. 🤣🤣
I’m a professional photographer & cinematographer. I was always decently satisfied with my iPhone 12’s camera for what it was. Never expected much out if it. But man, I just picked up the 14 pro and I could not be more disappointed. Bad post processing, blurry edges on one of the lenses, trouble focusing, the list goes on.
I get great results, but I don't use the iPhone's processing. I export from Photos using File > Export > Export Unmodified Original For X Photo(s), then import into Lightroom Classic. Doing it that way (when shooting with the 1x camera in RAW mode) gets detail that's approaching mirrorless cameras. I'm pretty sure this is what most photographers are doing when reviewing the camera.
From the iPhone photo app?
CHINESE JUNK ?
@@dgbrownnt my dude, that's some sad mirrorless camera if the iPhone RAWs are close to it at all. The iPhone is still not close to a good APS-C body with a good lens on it, much less the full-frame options. That being said, people have been getting so used to smartphone photos that it takes someone actually taking a closer look to tell the difference.
I had iPhone 12 pro amazing phone honestly best I’ve had, I switched to iPhone 14 pro in November I returned it a week later the focus issues was a big reason, apples changes aren’t for the better, the focal distance honestly made me hate the device and the dynamic island just isn’t great. I switched back to iPhone 12 pro and couldnt be more happy
completely agree! I’ve had a second hand IPhone X for many years now and the battery is starting to suck! I was thinking of upgrading but I’m not convinced because I really don’t like the over saturation and sharpness on newer models. Thinking of getting the 12 but idk if I’ll have the same problem…
Thank you for the video, it explains a lot
Thanks a lot Marques. Now I got the rough idea on how it works. Your insights drive me to learn more about image processing.
The level of editing in MKBHD’s videos gets better and better every time. The first 60sec, while may not seem like much, was perfect introduction to how photos are processed and illustrated beautifully.
That was such an amazing description of the differences in what a camera does that my jaw is on the floor.
I also felt the same with my iPhone 14 Pro Max camera recently that it was too processed especially selfie shot in the dark.