James Damore, Helen Pluckrose & The Second Culture
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2018
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This short with James Damore and Helen Pluckrose at Portland State University uses offcuts from a feature-length documentary I'm currently working on. My plan is to play with footage that's unlikely to make the final cut and build a RUclips support base while I figure out the complicated subject matter.
My usual sources of film funding are blocked off to me because of the sensitive subject matter and slow approach I'm taking. If you think what I'm doing here is valuable and you're in a position to help, you can support the project here - / mikenayna
I ask that you please respect everyone that features in my videos and keep your thoughts and feelings in the comment thread.
Also featuring Peter Boghossian, Heather Heying (rhymes with flying):
/ peterboghossian
/ heathereheying
Related articles by Helen Pluckrose:
areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/h...
areomagazine.com/2017/08/22/a...
Full Google Memo: assets.documentcloud.org/docu...
Special thanks to Portland State University, Andy Ngo and Freethinkers of PSU.
Additional footage provided by Travis Brown at The Signal Productions and Tim Pool.
Note: This has been re-uploaded with fixed audio.
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"This is a university. If we cannot have this conversation here, we cannot have it anywhere"
Nail on the head. This is exactly what they want.
Fascinating that the protestors had a chance to say something beyond their slogans; but had nothing to say.
What I think is fascinating is that in the old days, social justice was praised as progress. Now it`s the opposite. These idiots will always be seen as regressive losers.
The smug responses speak volumes. I’ve talked to people from cults who’ve been more intellectually engaged than these poor souls. If they weren’t so dangerous I would feel sorry for them.
Bill olu Compton actually you took way to much from what I said. I called them poor souls because they are deceived. Even though I feel pity for those who are deceived no matter the ideology doesn’t mean I don’t think they should get a big dose of reality. Nor do I think they aren’t intelligent enough. Deception isn’t always a measure of intelligence but a larger issue of the mind and the heart. They need to be engaged vigorously on all levels but not with kid gloves. So don’t be like them and accuse me of something without even trying to understand why I said what I said.
@Bill olu Compton Have you even watched the video? Cause what you say is exactly the opposite of what H. Pluckrose said, so you either disagree and I'd be curious to know why or you didn't understand.
@Bill olu Compton I got the answer to my question: you haven't understood.
What they say is you should be able to quote scientific data even if that data goes against the belief system of a company. That's what Heather Heying is saying (and caused these young people to leave in a noisy manner), men are on average taller than women, and women have different kind of interests than men, hence why there are more men in the STEM fields than in the education or healthcare fields. This isn't discrimination, however trying to censor people for discussing this kind of ideas is indeed discrimination.
They aren't demanding gender equality on a shrimping boat or an oil rig. These people lack consistency.
Or garbage collector for some reason.
Wow. This is brilliant. You're right!
The same with feminism. They all just want high payed, powerful jobs in air-conditioned offices in big cities. Everyone sees this. But even in my country in scandinavia, women take sick leaves and part time jobs DOUBLE as much as men, and still they shout about the wage gap and patriarchy or blames the men for not doing as much work at home as them. We have been pandering with women for too long. Fathers need to stop raising girls different than boys. The White Nighting fathers do to their daughters creates conflicts in any modern society as when they realize daddy is no longer protecting them, they get a dose of the real life and gets over sensitive, taking sick leaves and part time jobs. We have a HUGE problem in the western world with feminism and young people believing they are oppressed. Wake up to the real life people. It`s not that pleasant!!
These people imagine a world where things like shrimping boats and oil rigs - and dirty, difficult, high-risk, unpleasant jobs - don't exist.
@@julianfischer1485 Love it!
I love Helen Pluckrose. She is more brave and more intelligent than any PC activist. She need to dye her hair blue and dress like a cyberpunk and maybe the activist crowd will listen to her.
The blue haired brigade turned up at a class (social and economic) and feminism, at a conference I was at. Guess what? They were middle class students. WC and poor young people don't really behave like this.
Sadly, modifying her image might be the best strategy at any success with changing their minds.
That may actually work since appearance seems to be important to them
She's brave and smart and tells the truth.
No matter what you look like, or how right you are, the left only listens to ideology.
"Do you have any more thoughts?"
"No"
Sums it up entirely.
Huge kudos to Helen Pluckrose for actually studying this Second Culture. It seems like we are talking past each other to an astounding degree, so her work is direly needed.
The "I'm oppressed, he's oppressed" woman at 9:50 had me dying.
"fuck the police! power to the people!" "okay thank you"
I love how the camera zooms in to the lady with the blue hair 1:26 almost preparing for the inevitable.
Funny thing is it wasnt zoomed in. Its because of the big lens is meant for filming at a distance.
*wearing headphones as well* She may as well shout out when she is going disrupt them..
Well if the headphones didnt give it away it would have been the pastel blue hair on a butch emo dude
@@Heretic920 portable safe space
@Dildo Faggins
I was going to comment on that, before I found yours, which got buried under more recent ones ...
Knowing now she was one of the protesters, it is now obviously inevitable that she put on her earphones, before James even spoke a single word ... but equally obviously, she wasn't there to listen, just to disrupt, thereby taking up a seat, that could have been used by someone else, who would have wanted to listen to him, and the panel as a whole, but couldn't, since the venue was near, or at, capacity ...
How racist is the woman who says to the black policeman "You should know more than anybody!"? unbelievable.
I escaped my ideological echo chamber. Now everyone hates me.
You swallowed the redpill known as the righteous mind. Seriously your mouth unhinged like a snake. It was horrifying to watch.
Jesus Adam, you are everywhere!
I want my new name to be "Jesus Adam" now :)
@@ThinkClub You are out of control!!!!!!111
Think Club to be fair I kinda hated you before.😉
Here's hoping you can market the final documentary well enough for it to influence our society. I really want masses of people in politics, universities, news media and entertainment to wake up and stop preaching unsavoury lies. And then maybe corporations could feel free to follow suite. Being constantly gaslighted by a mutated culture is exhausting.
Corporations are absolutely free to do whatever they want, including standing up for what's right. They're pandering to the absolute minority, because of emotional blackmail.
You want all these institutions to wake up? You're naively crazy to think this is only a problem in which people need to "wake up". This crap has been peddled into academia for decades with many generations now infested with post modernist ideology that has corrupted itself into said institutions. This is literally a generational issue and you think people are just going to "wake up"? Maybe they might but of course only after we have passed the zenith of the suffering caused by these ideologues.
+Thermic Light
Yes. It not going to be until they do some seriously horrifying stuff and this becomes murderous that they stop and recognize what they have given themselves over to.
I hear the same argument all the time from these people "I'm not going to engage as it's not worth my time", when in fact, they don't have a single argument to stand on.
It feels like witnessing the beginning of the end of civilized society. I don't feel like I'm exaggerating much.
Yes, seems like we are all arguing over shifting the deckchairs on the Titanic while fast approaching the ice berg of climate change. We are going to have to rely on scientific facts and methods not abstract power theories to help us deal with what is coming our way. Humanity needs to unite and use our best brain power to try to alleviate the coming environmental crisis. But on the evidence of this video I despair at the arrogance of the SJWs that left the meeting because they were offended by facts. Only by understanding facts and analysis are we going to be able to do anything positive and constructive to save the human race from catastrophe.
Welcome to 2020
@@andylarsen4739 My comment was made 1 year ago, but I'm still fascinated to see how bad things can get.
It looks scary, but that people is in an extreme position. Most humans don’t act that way, that’s why the world hasn’t gone crazy. What should make us worry is having extremists in positions of power.
Just wait, it gets soooo much worse
This is scary man... I'm worried about the future.
this comes the future: you should be scared
You were right
Yup, still relevant.
Using the Mozart requiem was a powerful move....like mourning the end of reason as we descend into madness and despair.
I have a feeling this documentary is going to be very important.. great so far
Ethan Fisher it’s going to be hilarious!
I love how a number of commenters picked up on the Mozart Requiem. Doesn't seem like a coincidence that they programmed the Lacrimosa: "That day is one of weeping,
on which shall rise again from the ashes the guilty man to be judged."
Anyone else think that Mike does a fantastic job of putting this all together? The music, the directing ... the content is great, but Mike really amplifies it well.
3:55 - 4:29 is a great argument I've never heard anyone make before.
I’m really excited to see what you’re going to do with this documentary. Your production value in these snippets is strong, and the topic is awesome - so psyched to eventually see solid proof that a lot of this stuff is academically illegitimate.
Agreeeeee
He should take his time. Do it over several years. The best documentaries I have seen about things like this, the directors have used 10, sometimes 20 years to make. Just think about all the content he is getting now in 2020.
Helen is the go to for this proof
@@eltoro969 Yes, but it also has to be relevant. I mean it has to be aired soon enough to help stop spreading this bullshit. Not to tell the ballade ex-post how this insanity ruined the society of the 21st century.
someone says men are taller than women and that offends you so much you must walk out? wow...Wow...WOW I just can not even.
Orwell was a complete freaking prophet for his views on language
2+2=5 is what they're been told to believe.
@@frankpeter9145 stop it, 5 is too strict an answer. It's fluid! 2+2 equals whatever you feel like this morning
At first I thought that person was making a joke cos they were short or something then they walked out and I was amazed. Fucking mental
There are now people in counties like the US and UK living in different universes than each other. How can we have any discussion when one side thinks it's fascism to say men are taller than women?
Teetering on the border of hilarity and horrifying
Its like a clockwork Orange kind of thing
The more you see the less hilarious it becomes.
(Sometimes I still laugh)
Lunatics are usually bordering those qualities. Like Joker from the Dark Knight.
They're diving deep into something nonsensically confusing, really.
Nothing hilarious about it. Their predecessors murdered tens of millions in the name of their ideology.
UGH I left academe in the 1990s when Identity Politics was just taking hold in the social sciences and humanities. So glad I escaped its vortex. As with everything, there is a kernel of truth but it's so poorly presented or analyzed and then misrepresented that the truth is lost amidst all the BS. I'm so glad that there's an opportunity to have longer more meaningful discussions like this are taking place more recently. The people who disrupt these events are clearly disturbed.
15:56 Dr. J. Lindsay performing/enacting his classic gesture.
For anybody wondering the music is Mozarts requiem in d minor, a personal favorite.
i did wonder. thank you
Man, this is making the hairs of my neck stand on end.
"People do not have the right to tell you what you can and cannot listen to." I thought we settled this shit with the Religious Conservatives when they tried to go after heavy metal. If I'm not going to let my grandma tell me what I can listen to, I'm sure as hell not going to let some blue-haired....woman (?) tell me.
That's the funny thing. The Conservatives were fighting against free speech in the 1980's, and now it's the Left. It's all by design though. The two major political parties are nothing more than sheep herders. The 99 percent and the Tea Party agreed on the majority of important issues. Those in control of this country could not allow them to come together, so they they forced them back into their corners fighting over meaningless social issues. Divide and Conquer works. They can't fight the Elite if they are fighting against each other.
What party was Tipper Gore in? Things have not changed...
The people who you fought for became the very thing you now fight. This is the nature of power dynamics. Oppressed people oppress others
@@michaelpatten1286 Democrat.
I've been watching stuff on RUclips around this subject for years and I have only just found you, Mike Nayna. I'm seriously pissed off at the algorithms! I just watched the Evergreen documentary and now this. Just brilliant content. How you only have 50k subs is near criminal..
He’s gotten better at public speaking
"If I were to tell you any thoughts on this event it would be more than this event is worth", Then why did you show up at all ?
Because I need to assert my superiority, but I don't want to prove it!!!!
To be fair you have to have a high IQ to understand that the triangle isn't round
Yet, she proceeded to provide nothing worth an ounce of dirt.
iGBk - Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it The Young Turds who said that "its nuanced" whenever they were put on the spot and could not support their position without resorting to the usual SJW word salad.
That's the start of cognitive dissonance from forming
“IM OPPRESSED HES OPPRESSED “
🤣🤣🤣 please keep these series coming. We need more people like you all. Very smart and I’m thankful to have come across these videos
That girl who pulled the plug or whatever on the sound system - the actual vandalism itself may be a misdemeanor, but as far as I know, *conspiring* to commit a misdemeanor is a *felony* and I'm so sorry she wasn't charged accordingly. If security can gather enough info to prove there was a conspiracy to commit a crime, they should have been busted for that.
I cannot wait to see the full film.
Give me honest conflict over dishonest harmony anyday. Dam i miss my old left. Great work mate.
"Byeeeeeeee" lmao.... of course she had blue hair
Hmm my thinking is, It's not an airport you don't need to announce your departure !!
Is it a she or a he?
@@9mil41 DONT ASSUME HER GENDER YOU NAZI BIGGOT RACIST FACIST PATRIACHAL CANCER PARASITE!!
jk dude, who gives a fuck she's ignorant and entitle, her opinion doesn't matter anyway.
Pretty sure that's a man
sitting in the audience with headphones on might be the greatest approximation of the issue at hand.
Well done. I'm now one of your patrons, keep it up!
You're a legend, Sync, thanks.
Effing scary. These people sound more orthodox and fundamentalist than most street preachers. Woe that they have any level influence in society.
The victim narrative is present here plainly too.
"I'm oppressed, he's oppressed... sexism... racism"
It almost seems surreal. That is just rudimentary regurgitation of a collective discourse that has been brewing for decades. Unitary, totalizing ideology curated by a collectivist doctrine that seeks an organic reorganization of society and culture by espousing an absolutist platform. It's tantamount to brainwashing. It honestly shows an alarming lack of reasoning skills and preys upon untrained minds. It's almost like when you hear that terrible song on the radio, but can't help but sing it out as it is stuck in your head from conditioning.
"If we can reprogram the language, we can reprogram the world."
Redefining logic and language. This is the radical left's greatest weapon and it's scary to see any fellow citizen subscribe to such a basic narrative, without question or qualification and when challenged, revert to amorphous arguments and buzzwords.
Heying describes sexual dimorphism, present in our lineage for untold millions of years, woman walks out, taking offence, then proceeds to equate the logical consistency aforementioned with the logical fallacy that triangles are circles. It's circular logic no different from the radical rightists these radical leftists oppose.
Dialogue. Freedom of speech. Scientific method. Proprietary rights. Human rights.
Radical leftists need to get a grip on reality if they want to be taken seriously.
I have often had this thought. The difference is that street preachers had a message roughly derived from a written document (the Bible), and you could discuss it with them. These new radicals have no logic, no document, and want more and more insanity.
Thanks Mike! Thanks James! Thanks Helen! Thanks Peter!
Probably my favorite episode on this channel. Thanks for all the work you’ve done to present this stuff
cant wait to watch the doco kudos to you sir
Thank you for this. Just thank you.
I'm so grateful that you are doing this important work
Outstanding. Keep up the excellent work. This is a highly complex and often mistaken area of discourse, and interesting productions like these will continue to bridge the gap to those unaware of the zeitgeist
This looks really good! Well done!
wow, mike - what a strong and fittingly chilling atmosphere! these 17 minutes are haunting af. captured the whole feel of the situation, the underlying, looming dread about it. can't wait for the full feature!
Brilliant production, essential message!!
If everyone could just agree that a fact... indeed is a fact, the world would be much better of. Walking away on the FACT that men are (on average) taller than women, is so very strange to me. I just don't understand it. I must be missing something here. I've read Damore's mail about 5 times now, and I still can't figure out what pissed people off about it. Someone, please enlighten me!
He opened his mouth. That was too much for some people to take.
Truth offends people who have rejected Western culture.
Keep up the great, thought provoking content. Jam on!
Congratulations, very rounded material, good editing and soundtracks. I'm in fact keen to watch the whole talk.
Thanks for covering this so well.
amazing stuff. Very important.
Love the Requiem. Nice touch.
I love your work! Fantastically done, I can't wait to see more!
Thanks for putting this together. Great work.
This is a fantastic channel.
300 likes and ZERO dislikes - good stuff! Keep them coming =)
Wait for the SJW & NPC trolls to start dogpile here
Love the way you let the situations speak for themselves
Looking forward to this documentary
"Men are, on average, taller than women"
"I'm not gonna sit here and listen to these facts!!!"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
two different languages, that is exactly what it is
Precisely what they want, so that they can say one thing and have it mean anything they want - and the same applies to you. Chomsky's influence on linguistics, Deleuze and Gautari's influence in the English departments... They have their fingers in everything but Engineering, because their bridges would fall down 😅
I am glad to have found your channel. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the work you're doing.
You're doing important work. I'm too poor at the moment to donate to your patreon but I hope you gain more traction with this project.
It’s terrifying and mind-blowing that this has been brewing for so long in our universities, people being indoctrinated and released into the world, and those in power didn’t stand up somewhere along the way and say, “this is nuts” and put a stop to it.
Absolutely fascinating! Thanks Mike and Helen Pluckrose, your explanations are so clear and helpful. Keep up the good work.
I like how this video is cut together like an investigative journalism report without the narration interspersed throughout.
one side is interested in a discussion and exchange of ideas, the other side believes that their opinions are the one and only truth, sabotage equipment and call their opposition names.
hmm, which one is the bad side, i wonder.
Here from the JRE podcast.
same here... do you remember if the mainstream media covered their story about sending out all those papers? I don't but may of missed it. I think tim Poole talked about it
Beautifully shot and edited! Nice work
Very well done....all of your messages have been spot on.
Great stuff, Mike. I mean it's not great, but you are doing a fine job of it.
Can't wait for what's probably the most important documentary of recent times. I'm actually really pessimistic about the whole situation. There is evil genius behind creating an ideology that simply refuses to believe in reason. It puts the ideology outside the battleground for ideas. It's an indestructible monster.
This is really important and needs more coverage
Brilliant! I love you guys and the work that you do - thank you
How fitting that you use a Requiem as the backing track. This SJW nonsense will be the death of all of us.
Wheel Trouble, I hope it’s not too late, we are all waking up.
Alarmism, alarmism, everywhere I look.
I'm going to go with the venal, corrupt, self-serving President of the USA, with the IQ of a particularly smart shrew, a shit-ton of nuclear weapons at his behest and a complete disregard for anyone who isn't white and/or rich over a few slightly confused university students vis the most likely cause of our extinction tbh
@@usxnews1834 Please explain.
I really worry about what these "SJW"s will be like when the slap of the real world causes disillusion
I have the feeling that a lot of them are going to go into extreme conservatism into extreme right-wing values
I think that their foolishness compounded with their college debt is going to cause a bitterness that might just spring them into true fascism I mean obviously they're already toying with fascism and a swift kick in the ass by the world might make their 180 an extremely sharp turn
Push Back
been a year, this guy is a chump.
Please refer to them accurately as " SOCIAL TERRORISTS" when your discussion or comments are serious.
You can call them NPC when in casual conversations.
And by the way, not a single dislike vs 450 something likes. Good job. 👍
I'm loving these, keep up the good work Mike.
God bless Portland🙌🏼
thank you for the great video
I've been watching videos, for years now, of Portland not putting up with leftist bullshit. I now have a chance to move to Portland for work, and though I originally was considering Seattle, will now be applying to jobs in Portland.
I look at the blue-haired unicorn and it's so sad; somebody's son (daughter?) set off to college with great hope, and now pretty much unemployable.
Very well cut piece of film! Good job man.
I've been waiting for this for a while and I didn't know it. I'm so upset I didn't catch it sooner
WTF is going on in the world. If you didn't laugh, you'd have to cry.
Is this a re-upload of content that was posted before? If so, was it taken down and reuploaded for some reason, or were there adjustments made to this version?
Seems exactly the same to me, I assume re-uploaded now he's had a massive surge in subscribers from videos that came after it.
Yeah. Sorry about that. The last upload had some significant sound issues that I wanted to fix.
No worries, just nice to know that I wasn't missing anything. Thanks for the quick reply!
Thank you so much for your work!
Yall are incredible
WTF how can someone not listen to what is being said about actual data collected from women and men?
Colliding world views Maybe +being Denise and living in their own bubbles
I find it’s the same time and time again that these people who are protesting don’t want their ideas challenged. If you challenge them they dismiss you and at times use name calling to divert the conversation. Classic example of walking away instead of engaging. I don’t know how you reach these people to change their minds.
Awesome work!
Good work! This is really interesting stuff
I feel sorry for uni students that have been turned into post modernists.
^My guy over here needs to stop watching Jordan Peterson vlogs
@@usxnews1834 sounds like you need to start.
@@JamesJames-gc2kl Curious if either of you can even coherently explain what you mean when you say they've been 'turned into postmodernists' tbh
@@usxnews1834 7:48 she explained it here mate
UBX
do you go to any of the progressive colleges? Didn’t think so. You have no clue what you’re talking about. fairy tales.
The Cult of the NPCs
Please refer to them accurately as " SOCIAL TERRORISTS" when your discussion or comments are serious.
You call them NPC when in casual conversations.
@@drsrikanthr9148 To be honest, they'd have to do something that's terrifying first. At most they're "Social Inconvenience" or even "Social Bullies" in some cases. Nothing terrifying yet.
@@interfilamentar413 It was true like a year ago..... I too saw videos of them and had a laugh and scoff. But now they are teaching children, even little ones, these NPCs are becoming responsible for growing children and growing minds of young adults.
All the chaos which you see on the streets is because we just laughed and scoffed at them a year ago and thought them just tiny minority like neo - Nazis. Not anymore , please consider this carefully.
I am an Indian, I have no vested interest in the situation in USA , except that it will spread to young minds overseas. Please consider thoughtfully. Thank you , peace
The only NPCs I know are _non-player characters._ What are you talking about?
+@Kenny Palurintano That's a terrible analogy, as NPCs are controller by dungeon masters or referees for the benefit of player characters, and not all NPC are adversaries.
The term generally use for what your describing is _robots._
It's always good to hear and process different perspectives on issues people, by and large, are in disagreement over.
Well done. The concluding music is very appropriate.
"Bring your whole self to work." Yeah, I hear that bullshit at my own workplace too - they're all pushing this line these days. Who decided this was even necessary? There are parts of my life and personality that have zero bearing on my workday, and I keep them PRIVATE, rather than inflict irrelevant life-matters on my employer and colleagues. Bringing one's "whole self" to work is narcissistic in the extreme. Talk about entitled!
6:05 - Really?
Why this does not have a million views is a mystery to me. The exchange between Peter and Helen starting at 3:48 and Helen's brilliant response was mind blowing.
Needed a snazzier title.
Subscribed in anticipation for more
i cant wait for the final film. I hope it goes mainstream. if response.equals("there are biological differences"); return "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE";