Am I really on RUclips? It’s surprising how the commenters are not insulting the Chinese and actually hopes they progress. I wish to stay on this side of RUclips
@@ShyCataclysm You mean like high speed train , infrastructure building , solar , wind turbines , EV . The Chinese were never first but they now dominate all these industries and have innovated on top of previous firsts , isn't that how science works ? Was facebook first ? Nope , do u remember mySpace which was the pioneer in social media ... So much for being first ....But there's a lot of firsts for the Chinese like wechat , dji , byd . Are u honna deny that ?
How many of these smart scientist shown in this video are part of the rhino poaching problem? Killing our magnificent rhinos, letting the babies die from hunger in our forests and parks. Just so they can use the ground up horns in some bizarre sexual stimulant fantasy.
@Wi2Low Dji was first the same wsy Apple's iphone was first. Iphone was a convergence of technologies that Apple was able to integrate and make a first. Dji did the same thing with drones. So their contribution is as significant as an iphone in identifying the right technologies to integrate to produce a compelling product. That's a first and there's still no company from the West that can match Dji's innovative drive to this day. So how dies USA compete ? They'll just ban Dji bcos they can't compete. Everyone can see how the West are sore losers.
Whoever is saying China is copying stuff from others, next time you go to the gym to work out, tell yourself you are copying from others who are also working out in the gym.
This issue was already addressed by Dongfang hour in his other videos. And Yes. Chinese companies are copying SpaceX, they pattered their rocket development to SpaceX.
As an american, and a human I'm excited for China. And to be honest less bureaucratic red tape for new technology than the US. we need more countries and companies launching rockets to space so that humanity can go multiplanetary and galactic eventually❤😊 🇨🇳❤️🇺🇸
As an a authoritarian government, China can instantly turn a civil space program into a military one. So, beware! I will be happy for China only when it turns to a democratic government. Until then, I am suspicious.
An overlooked part of reusability that's actually extremely helpful for reliability is that it allows to to analyze a spent booster and really verify that your design assumptions were correct, and it wasn't just seconds from blowing up. You can test that the safety margins were actually correct, see what wore off unexpectedly that should be redesigned. So even if they never plan to reuse the first couple of returned boosters, the insight is worth it to turn a "science experiment" into a workhorse on an accelerated schedule.
Worth noting, I covered in this video what I consider the 8 most promising Chinese reusable rocket companies, but there are other contenders (such as Expace, Space Epoch, ...). Putting SAST and commercial players on equal footing is also debatable, but to make things fit in a 15-minute video, I had to make some editorial decisions. I noted two small mistakes as I reviewed the video: the icon of the Hyperbola-1 (at 3:17) is incorrect, and at 9:00, it's the TQ-12A that will power the Zhuque-3, not the TQ-12. Let me know what you think of these 8 Chinese rocket companies in the comments! 🙂
Ideally it should be TQ-12B for ZQ-3 but seems like they can’t get that done in time and going with TQ-12A. I wonder how much loosing 20 tons of max thrust will impact the performance.
I would put my money on space pioneer if they could recover reputation-wise from the dynamic fire. They have a better attitude of putting all their effort into actually building rockets and not PR and attracting investors(unlike Landspace or deep blue, which exhibit characteristics of Blue Origin/Boeing). When they goofed then there was a government check on all those companies and many of their competitors started relaxing, like how Landspace delayed their ZQ3 VTVL 10km hop from June to September. In fact, many of these companies keep delaying their deadlines. Sadly, only Landspace managed to successfully relight an engine mid flight and complete all the required tests for reusable capabilities. What remains to be seen is whether they could achieve a significant payload capability, because their payload predictions for the capability of ZQ3 wasn’t even informed by preliminary design but just a copy of Falcon 9. Idk where your sources come from but there are many CN video channels that document the realistic progress of these companies, and it doesn’t look good. CN will have to continue relying on LM series rockets for liquid launches for a long time.
@@JYF921On your last statement…..the key part is, which of these companies can bootstrap? When Elon made the shocking command decision to scrap- literally- the Falcon 1 and put their all into the Falcon 9, everyone-including his employees- thought he was crazy. But he knew they had to bootstrap themselves with the real, paying market- the medium-class market, which was horribly inefficient and which he felt was ripe for him to disrupt & get money out of. (Turns out, he was partly right; midway through, he realized it would take even more money, and created Starlink, against all odds- the opposition was incredibly well-funded on that, too- but by then he had the advantage: his own booster to launch them, between launching paying customers, and getting more efficient all the time….). So, to this gentleman’s question; DONGFANG HOUR: None of these RLV companies can survive to get to there, from here, without an ONGOING income source in between; like Elon figured out he needed, when he went with the falcon 9 to generate income, then later, Starlink. So when asking the ultimate question: WHICH OF THESE GUYS WILL SURVIVE? The question becomes: Which of these guys will develop- however way- some sort of income stream SOONER, NOT LATER, TO HELP THEM SURVIVE to keep developing these RLVs? Because it’s going to take awhile…and they are going to keep burning money the entire time. IN EACH CASE, how will they generate the funds on an ongoing basis? Can’t be only VCs? Needs to be- like SpaceX figured out- via a business. - Dave Huntsman
China is still a 'developing country'. When the United States and the Soviet Union were playing in space, China was still playing with mud. There's no shame in standing on the shoulders of giants.
@@alexgummer4979 what many people don't get is that when someone has a new capability you're first going to try to replicate the original findings the way they first achieved it, just to verify your understanding and gain the same capabilities. Afterwards you have the freedom to find new ways to achieve the same or better result. it's just risk management doing what is known to work
@@Stevie-L-n8g There isn't such a thing as stealing technology when it comes to rockets. The engineering and manufacturing are so extreme that nothing is easy. "Coping" a competitor isn't easy. Furthermore, every component and system in a rocket is optimized for its design, so "stealing" a design is only the baseline and is iterated on.
Thank you so much for covering this topic, Western press does not even take not of Chinese efforts in space flight. All you ever see is stuff from SpaceX etc.
You are welcome! To be fair, the Chinese press also doesn’t cover that much non-Chinese space programs, other than major events (such as the recent Starship launch). I think this is pretty much true everywhere, which is why social media/RUclips can be a good place to get information.
@@mikeg9b Yes, but these are also specialized channels. Theres NOTHING in mainstream media. Three possibilities: - They don't know (bad) - They don't care (bad) - They know but won't tell (worse)
@@Spicysauced As a Chinese, I can tell you responsibly that the Chinese don't care, the people care more about doing their jobs, taking care of their families, and living a happy life
@@Spicysauced Because the media won't want to cover repeat news: SpaceX's development history was well documented by the media, including landing tests, and eventually has become so routine that covering landings isn't as novel anymore. China's programs, comparatively, are trying to solve a problem that has already been solved by SpaceX. SpaceX also arguably has a greater reason to be in the highlight of the media: a viable, fully reusable superheavy lift launcher, compared to clones of their already successful Falcon 9.
SpaceX proved the world that reusability rocket can work so it's only matter of time before anything else takes off, depends on who has enough resource and wide enough vision.
NASA proved re-usable rockets were viable with the DC-X program in the 1990s. SpaceX just piggybacked on NASA's work, quite literally. They invented nothing.
... and a long track record of copying the actual innovators. Technical progress for humankind would advance faster if the PRC wasn't always taking the easy path.
Jiuquan is looking busy. Space Pioneer and Landspace is making their own launch site there. Haiyang sea space port is getting new launch ship next year Wenchang expansion is coming along slowly but surely. Xichang just approve creation of commercial launch centre. Though I am a bit iffy on this one since Xichang have it “reputation” due to being inland launch site. Apparently there might be brand new space port in Xiangshan in the future as well, making it another coastal launch site for China
The more people create a reusable rockets, the price of per seat will go down as for normal people can travel like flights to other countries. What an incredible generation we born in !!!
Good overview! The great number of startups with already impressive hardware is amazing, and undoubtedly at least some of them will achieve their goals. But at the same time it must be said that making a small rocket that goes up and down a few kilometers is not yet a sign of being at the cusp of launching a reusable space launch vehicle. Advanced amateurs with deep pockets were successfully making such hoppers even before SpaceX was founded. It is hard, but it is not as crazy hard as making a rocket that launches a payload into orbit. And making the rocket that does that and then *also* lands, that is insanely hard. Still, a hopper is the necessary first step, and I am sure the young Chinese engineers will not stop at this first step.
Thanks! To some extent, I agree with you, notably for the earlier hoppers (ie Linkspace’s RLV-T5). But the latest tests were using in-house orbital class cryogenic 70-80 ton thrust engines, and tested TVC, RCS, grid fins, and deployable landing legs. Reaching altitudes of 10+ km means they are reaching MaxQ and part of the descent takes place in (complex) transonic regimes. I assure you this not amateur level rocketry. That being said, I agree that there is still work to be done before full 1st stage recovery. The next milestone is an 100 km hop.
@@DongfangHour Fully agree. A high altitude hop tests many important aspects of the later missions. It will be very exciting to see more companies landing their rockets after successful orbital launches.
China new industry cycle 1. Push for as many as possible company to emerge using various government helps when necessary 2. First phase culling by reducing government help and let the weak company to die. 3. Give some time for a breather to let merger, acquisition etc happen 4. Second phase culling by stopping government helps or only make it minimum help to force the emergence of champion companies 5. Introduce big world champion company to give the domestic champion sense of threat to push them innovate even harder. I wonder what stage is china space industry right now?
I wonder if SAST reusable rocket will be Long March 12R. Apparently that rocket is very different from base model LM-12 with it replacing all kerolox engine with unname methalox engine. Which does kinda make it sound like SAST resuable rocket
AGI, humanoid robots, and cheap space launches, are all coming at the same period within a few years time span. And fusion along with widespread quantum computing will most likely be a reality within a decade thanks to AGI. This is the greatest time to be alive in human history.
No question China is no. 2 in the world in rocket launcher development. No other country other than the US comes close. This video was ver informative and interesting and there are very few RUclipsrs that I know of that are reporting on Chinese launch rocket developments. Thank you for your efforts.
I would put my money on space pioneer if they could recover reputation-wise from the dynamic fire. They have a better attitude of putting all their effort into actually building rockets and not PR and attracting investors(unlike Landspace or deep blue, which exhibit characteristics of Blue Origin/Boeing). When they goofed then there was a government check on all those companies and many of their competitors started relaxing, like how Landspace delayed their ZQ3 VTVL 10km hop from June to September. In fact, many of these companies keep delaying their deadlines. Sadly, only Landspace managed to successfully relight an engine mid flight and complete all the required tests for reusable capabilities. What remains to be seen is whether they could achieve a significant payload capability, because their payload predictions for the capability of ZQ3 wasn’t even informed by preliminary design but just a copy of Falcon 9. Idk where your sources come from but there are many CN video channels that document the realistic progress of these companies, and it doesn’t look good. CN will have to continue relying on LM series rockets for liquid launches for a long time.
Thanks for making this video about the Chinese reusable rockets. There so little coverage about this in the west. 8 does sound like to many through, especially if they meet the same launch speed as space x.
The fact that the Chinese are competing against each other to ultimately compete internationally is a good thing...wow...Americans must come to the realization that competition is a good thing...not a bad thing!!!!..it helps bring costs down that results in lower costs to all consumers...both industrial and regular consumers....that is a good thing!!!!!!
Competition between US and China means war. All it does it create war. One side intends on winning. I would rather have the US compete within itself and dominate space than China and US compete. Would you rather have CCP values dominate space or American values?
guess u havnt heard about Blue Origin, RocketLab, Stoke Space, Relativity Space and few more. most of them already further along than any of these Chinese companies regarding reusable rockets. also most of them already having a reliable orbital rockets and or already doing similar propulsive landing tests.
@@fxarts9755 Forgot about Astra, Firefly, ULA, ABL, Northrup Grumman, etc. American spaceflight is frankly more insane in my opinion with how many people are working on it.
I suspect some of their smaller companies will end up consolidating into a larger company and some of them will just straight up fail and go bust. This happened in other Chinese industries as well. Loads of companies start with enthusiasm due to government subsidy and window guidance policy but when the industry matures and subsidies dry out or become more focused towards companies that perform the best, general economics just don't work for those companies at the bottom of the barrel.
The Chinese always surprise me, In the U.S. they are making noise over Elon Musk's rocket,, And the Chinese, many companies are already working quietly without making noise.
@@100c0c The Americans are making noise, they probably have some kind of insecurity, But what's more funny just like you are used to lying, Elon Musk still does not have a reusable rocket, only in the experimental process.
China needs this many rocket companies, because for them space access is a must do and they are not taking any chances. They are not willing to fund just a few that are economically sensible and see what happens.
The huge list was impressive to show. I was disappointed in the low tonnage to LEO. ONly 12 tonnes?! EEEK I would gather that the actual space program (CSA) will always be 2 steps ahead.
It has been around thirty years since the DC-X demonstrated vertical launch and controlled landing. Plus DC-X was flown multiple times while demonstrating landings from a actual mission type profile. Perdictibly when turned over to NASA they suffered a landing accident. SpaceX's big break came when they recieved some Federal money during development of the Falcon 9 because the USAF and other organizations wanted cheaper access. They didn't care if SpaceX developed a re-usable booster. They just wanted cheaper launch services. After boosters the next step is recovery and reuse of the second stages. I'm surprised we haven't seen more effort being put into inflatable heat sheilds.
Companies from various provinces and cities in China are engaged in fierce competition. This intense internal rivalry ensures that only the most successful will emerge to compete on the global stage. Rocket reusability is no different.
not really, Starship has been extremely fast development. Once you get Falcon 9, it's just scaling up. I'm more impressed with Heavy and the 2nd stage.
Starship is a failure. They have only one "successful" deployment and it exploded during re-entry. Moreover, none of their ships have been able to escape earth's gravity since their inception. SpaceX's greatest gift to the world is bankrupting the us government.
What is the turnaround time for a reusable rocket, what is the cost of refurbishment, is it significantly better than rebuilding the rocket? A closer look at Spacex suggests the benefits are marginal at best, maybe the Chinese can make it worthwhile
When meaningful inventions, breakthroughs, and discoveries were successfully achieved, completed, full field, and realized with many years of research and spend millions of dollars of money by humans, China try to replicate it. Since it can be done, China will prove they can also do it as well.
不得不承认，美国技术总是走在前沿，应该说马斯克,没有他美国也落后！中国作为后进国，跟着走！中国必具备这样本领！美国的或者其他国家有新的发明，中国只需要看一眼就怀孕！当然，中国也需要更多自己创新技术！We have to admit that American technology is always at the forefront. It should be said that Musk, without him, the United States would lag behind! China, as a backward country, should follow! China must have such ability! If the United States or other countries have new technologies, China only needs to take a look at them! Of course, China also needs more innovative technologies of its own!
Fellow Asian from SEA here. I hated that you put Mixue and tons of electric cars in my country, lol. But have to admitted that I wish you all greatly for semiconductor and space R&D. More competitor, better for all of us. With all those mega hard education and tons of government money, its gonna be faster than we think for sure.
@@jnhkx Are you Thai? It's a pity that Chinese mixue and electric cars enter Southeast Asia. This should be a market behavior. If these Chinese products are unpopular and unsalable locally, then these Chinese products will withdraw from Southeast Asia! I personally welcome goods and electric cars from Southeast Asia to enter China! Just like welcoming Tesla and McDonald's! If Southeast Asian products are competitive enough! Yes, competitive products from foreign countries will always break the local dull consumer market! Hatred cannot promote market competition! Thank you for your wishes for Chinese semiconductors. According to my observation of the Chinese semiconductor market, Chinese companies are moving forward. Now China's manufacturing of 5nm chips depends on ASML equipment! Maybe in 2-3 years, we will get rid of ASML and use Chinese equipment to manufacture 5nm chips, completely breaking the US blockade!
@@jnhkx As for China's efforts in space, it has become less anxious! China has never thought about competing with the United States for first place. Let's move forward step by step according to the plan! It is more important for China to take Musk's Starlink as a goal and build a Chinese version of Starlink! Increase income for Chinese companies! There are multiple choices in this world!
China invented the concept of the first use of chemical rockets, and was using it in battle fields and fireworks. Everything else after that is just evolution of it, that includes the spaceX ones. The og is still China.
Chinese rocket companies: We placed the engines on the bottom and the payload on top. Americans: Ah, I see China is copying SpaceX. In all seriousness, many Chinese companies definitely copy SpaceX (see how often presentations are literally duplicates of Falcon 1 - Falcon 9 - Falcon Heavy - Starship. That’s not surprising though, since already successful architectures should be a lot easier to develop vs figuring out something completely new.
Yeah people think there's much real original invention in tech, Bezos space company would be happy to have some engineers from SpaceX and kinda use the same approach or similiar design like SpaceX with little tweaks.
So should china build them in square shapes with four wheels, to not look copied. What a stupidity.rocket science is complex and leaves only few ways to innovate.
Why do they all look like carbon copies of SpaceX? You forgot to mention the Government subsidies too. They are wanting to build an ICBM that is liquid fueled like sat launches. No other country has used liquid fuel for ICBMs since 1962.
Very informative. I only knew a little bit of what you've mentioned. I learned a lot. Thanks Maybe, you can do a video on the new Chinese moon suit, and compare it with the US'.
@@tricky778The self landing software. It’s hard and expensive to create, which is why Blue Origin and Rocket Lab are still, to this day, far behind Spacex. Combine that with the fact that it is no secret that China commits corporate espionage in the US and you have your answer.
@@mike-0451 Anyone could develop rocket landing software. The best way to do it nowadays is teacing an AI in a simulator. Much better than developing it algorithmically, although that's also possible. I think an AI is much better at handling changes in engine power, and failure of some engines. It would be much more robust! These things are difficult to program. Much easier to teach an AI. There's no need to copy anyone's software. If one would steal anything, it would be SpaceX rocket engine designs and production tech.
Nothing surprises me anymore when I know how many Chinese engineers work at SpaceX. Chinese industrial espionage is flourishing throughout America. I would also like to see something invented by them and not stolen as usual.
😂You gotta remember that China is the first inventor of rockets a chemical propelled fight object along with cannons and gun powders. Just like the equation of e = mc2 the concept provided the spark to all the possibilities that we have now and forever.
I sure don't believe that China is close to this, they can't even test a rocket without having it accidentally fly away. How in the world would they be able to do this
@@galaxiedance3135 mate... I'm sure you don't actually believe what you're saying. You literally just saw Chinese companies successfully testing these rockets... They successfully landed.
@@SifisoMoabj idk man. nasa did similar tests to these back in the 90s - (DCX Delta clipper) this is like the first step. not bad but still a long long way to go
@@DongfangHourHey, We support you 😊. don't listen to these people. They create a toxic environment in the comments section. You should delete these comments
True. Unders CPC, China built their own space station and there will be crews from 7 other nations that will take part. Under US gov, 2 astronauts got stranded, and they are still up there.
Once the Chinese space companies make the breakthroughs they may dominate the space sector as the do with the EVs.incidentally? In both fields they are competing with Elon Musk’s companies.
Wait isn't the tethered net system way smarter and cheaper than the Mechazilla? Maybe not, because I guess you still need to put the rocket on the ground before another launch and that's easier with Mechazilla. Unless you move the ground to the rocket.. lol.. which would be possible in theory.
Mechazilla will be needed to put the Starship booster on the launch stand and the upper stage on the booster. Having it catch the booster just means they don't need any extra hardware. Previously, a giant crane separate to the launch tower was used. Tethered net is not a bad way to catch boosters, as far as I can tell, especially since CASC wants to use it on drone ships where there is no launch tower to put grabbing arms on.
Mechazilla’s function allows for retrieval _and_ re-stacking of the vehicle within minutes of launch and recovery, rather than days or weeks. Catching a booster with wires is comparable not to starship but Falcon 9. They are catching them on wires because they cannot design a program to land the rocket themselves. They’ll have to steal that somehow.
I wonder if a high-speed train ending in an upward bend would save fuel. It seems to me like rockets spend a lot of fuel before they get any upward speed! This would also be a better landing mechanism than SpacX's chopsticks. I know, the Chinese mastered chopsticks thousands of years ago. But, trust me, landing between those easily fails. Landing against an almost vertical wagon already moving downwards. The decent speed of the rocket wouldn't have to be so precisely controlled. I think the speed of the wagon would be matching the speed of the rocket. We wouldn't want to heat the Landing mechanism too much with the rocket engines, if the rocket was hanging under the track it wouldn't. Exactly how to do that might be a difficult problem, but worth solving.
What happene to Russia & Europe? All I see is USA China & india startups are making rockets. Many govt agencies of these 3 countries now rely on private startups for their supplies & logistics. Space X is miles ahead of Chinese & Indian startups but China is catching indian space companies are still in nascent stage. Some Indian startups are doing great in satelite services,rocket is still 1 decade behind US china. Skyroot got good results in its previous tests. Hope one day these companies form a giant companies to launch human to far plantes like Mars & Jupiter moons .
They started to get free speech in the late 80's...then Tiananmen Square happened (and Tibet, and religious persecutions, and Xinjiang, and the Great Firewall, and a dictator for life, and...and...and...).
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Am I really on RUclips? It’s surprising how the commenters are not insulting the Chinese and actually hopes they progress. I wish to stay on this side of RUclips
Unbiased content on RUclips is really getting less and less
@@Noredia_Yuki That's because they're CCP bots or naive fools. Which one are you?
@@Sajuuk I think i should be asking which one you are, naive? brain dead? ignorant? or just a racist imperialist? pick one or all of them
@@Noredia_Yuki Welcome back to youtube you knew of
You are the first RUclipsr who managed to showcase me what the chinese launch providers have accompleshed. Thanks for that.
He is paid
@@bertBert-w3o Copying always means you'll never be 1st
@@ShyCataclysm You mean like high speed train , infrastructure building , solar , wind turbines , EV . The Chinese were never first but they now dominate all these industries and have innovated on top of previous firsts , isn't that how science works ? Was facebook first ? Nope , do u remember mySpace which was the pioneer in social media ... So much for being first ....But there's a lot of firsts for the Chinese like wechat , dji , byd . Are u honna deny that ?
How many of these smart scientist shown in this video are part of the rhino poaching problem? Killing our magnificent rhinos, letting the babies die from hunger in our forests and parks. Just so they can use the ground up horns in some bizarre sexual stimulant fantasy.
@Wi2Low Dji was first the same wsy Apple's iphone was first. Iphone was a convergence of technologies that Apple was able to integrate and make a first. Dji did the same thing with drones. So their contribution is as significant as an iphone in identifying the right technologies to integrate to produce a compelling product. That's a first and there's still no company from the West that can match Dji's innovative drive to this day. So how dies USA compete ? They'll just ban Dji bcos they can't compete. Everyone can see how the West are sore losers.
Whoever is saying China is copying stuff from others, next time you go to the gym to work out, tell yourself you are copying from others who are also working out in the gym.
@@brightfrost Baaaah
This issue was already addressed by Dongfang hour in his other videos. And Yes. Chinese companies are copying SpaceX, they pattered their rocket development to SpaceX.
😂😂😂😂. Nice try
They do not "copy". They steal.
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As an american, and a human I'm excited for China. And to be honest less bureaucratic red tape for new technology than the US. we need more countries and companies launching rockets to space so that humanity can go multiplanetary and galactic eventually❤😊 🇨🇳❤️🇺🇸
More competition, More capabilities the entire humanity will have.😊
@@giovoid9291 Chinese here, let's explore!!
@@NaseerJohnstonTheMuslim we just need aliens to invade us so we can finally unite.
Yes, because we are human beings, we are one. We should go to outer space instead of being separated by politics
As an a authoritarian government, China can instantly turn a civil space program into a military one. So, beware! I will be happy for China only when it turns to a democratic government. Until then, I am suspicious.
An overlooked part of reusability that's actually extremely helpful for reliability is that it allows to to analyze a spent booster and really verify that your design assumptions were correct, and it wasn't just seconds from blowing up. You can test that the safety margins were actually correct, see what wore off unexpectedly that should be redesigned. So even if they never plan to reuse the first couple of returned boosters, the insight is worth it to turn a "science experiment" into a workhorse on an accelerated schedule.
It’s a big reason why Starliner is so hard to get right … the failing thrusters are not recovered
Worth noting, I covered in this video what I consider the 8 most promising Chinese reusable rocket companies, but there are other contenders (such as Expace, Space Epoch, ...). Putting SAST and commercial players on equal footing is also debatable, but to make things fit in a 15-minute video, I had to make some editorial decisions.
I noted two small mistakes as I reviewed the video: the icon of the Hyperbola-1 (at 3:17) is incorrect, and at 9:00, it's the TQ-12A that will power the Zhuque-3, not the TQ-12.
Let me know what you think of these 8 Chinese rocket companies in the comments! 🙂
Ideally it should be TQ-12B for ZQ-3 but seems like they can’t get that done in time and going with TQ-12A. I wonder how much loosing 20 tons of max thrust will impact the performance.
I would put my money on space pioneer if they could recover reputation-wise from the dynamic fire. They have a better attitude of putting all their effort into actually building rockets and not PR and attracting investors(unlike Landspace or deep blue, which exhibit characteristics of Blue Origin/Boeing). When they goofed then there was a government check on all those companies and many of their competitors started relaxing, like how Landspace delayed their ZQ3 VTVL 10km hop from June to September. In fact, many of these companies keep delaying their deadlines. Sadly, only Landspace managed to successfully relight an engine mid flight and complete all the required tests for reusable capabilities. What remains to be seen is whether they could achieve a significant payload capability, because their payload predictions for the capability of ZQ3 wasn’t even informed by preliminary design but just a copy of Falcon 9.
Idk where your sources come from but there are many CN video channels that document the realistic progress of these companies, and it doesn’t look good. CN will have to continue relying on LM series rockets for liquid launches for a long time.
@@JYF921On your last statement…..the key part is, which of these companies can bootstrap? When Elon made the shocking command decision to scrap- literally- the Falcon 1 and put their all into the Falcon 9, everyone-including his employees- thought he was crazy. But he knew they had to bootstrap themselves with the real, paying market- the medium-class market, which was horribly inefficient and which he felt was ripe for him to disrupt & get money out of. (Turns out, he was partly right; midway through, he realized it would take even more money, and created Starlink, against all odds- the opposition was incredibly well-funded on that, too- but by then he had the advantage: his own booster to launch them, between launching paying customers, and getting more efficient all the time….). So, to this gentleman’s question; DONGFANG HOUR: None of these RLV companies can survive to get to there, from here, without an ONGOING income source in between; like Elon figured out he needed, when he went with the falcon 9 to generate income, then later, Starlink. So when asking the ultimate question: WHICH OF THESE GUYS WILL SURVIVE? The question becomes: Which of these guys will develop- however way- some sort of income stream SOONER, NOT LATER, TO HELP THEM SURVIVE to keep developing these RLVs? Because it’s going to take awhile…and they are going to keep burning money the entire time. IN EACH CASE, how will they generate the funds on an ongoing basis? Can’t be only VCs? Needs to be- like SpaceX figured out- via a business. - Dave Huntsman
Copycat 😂
China is still a 'developing country'. When the United States and the Soviet Union were playing in space, China was still playing with mud. There's no shame in standing on the shoulders of giants.
Chins has 8 rocket companies developing reusable launch vehicles! I've heard of two. This is the Chinese way. Wow!
The rockets that look exactly like everyone else's rockets...
@@alexgummer4979 theres onky so many ways to do a reusable rocket, also if it works then why not copy?
@@alexgummer4979 what many people don't get is that when someone has a new capability you're first going to try to replicate the original findings the way they first achieved it, just to verify your understanding and gain the same capabilities.
Afterwards you have the freedom to find new ways to achieve the same or better result. it's just risk management doing what is known to work
What, stealing technology and reusability from SpaceX?
@@Stevie-L-n8g There isn't such a thing as stealing technology when it comes to rockets. The engineering and manufacturing are so extreme that nothing is easy. "Coping" a competitor isn't easy. Furthermore, every component and system in a rocket is optimized for its design, so "stealing" a design is only the baseline and is iterated on.
China is progressing on all fronts. It will greatly benefit mankind with its space technology 👍♥️🇨🇳
Communism and the CCP do not benefit mankind. Just the opposite is true.
RUclips is censoring again. So much for free speech.
Thank you so much for covering this topic, Western press does not even take not of Chinese efforts in space flight. All you ever see is stuff from SpaceX etc.
You are welcome! To be fair, the Chinese press also doesn’t cover that much non-Chinese space programs, other than major events (such as the recent Starship launch). I think this is pretty much true everywhere, which is why social media/RUclips can be a good place to get information.
NASASpaceflight (This Week In Space Flight) and Scott Manley (Deep Space Updates) cover China's launches.
@@mikeg9b Yes, but these are also specialized channels.
Theres NOTHING in mainstream media. Three possibilities:
- They don't know (bad)
- They don't care (bad)
- They know but won't tell (worse)
@@Spicysauced As a Chinese, I can tell you responsibly that the Chinese don't care, the people care more about doing their jobs, taking care of their families, and living a happy life
@@Spicysauced Because the media won't want to cover repeat news: SpaceX's development history was well documented by the media, including landing tests, and eventually has become so routine that covering landings isn't as novel anymore. China's programs, comparatively, are trying to solve a problem that has already been solved by SpaceX. SpaceX also arguably has a greater reason to be in the highlight of the media: a viable, fully reusable superheavy lift launcher, compared to clones of their already successful Falcon 9.
2025-2026 are about to be crazy years for China's space program
And considering their future decades long plans (and what might follow out of thoses) we're on for one hell of a century from now on
Before 2030 land moon
SpaceX proved the world that reusability rocket can work so it's only matter of time before anything else takes off, depends on who has enough resource and wide enough vision.
NASA proved re-usable rockets were viable with the DC-X program in the 1990s.
SpaceX just piggybacked on NASA's work, quite literally. They invented nothing.
If space x wouldn't do it, no one would even think about making it.
... and a long track record of copying the actual innovators. Technical progress for humankind would advance faster if the PRC wasn't always taking the easy path.
SpaceX will dwindle into irrelevance, just as Tesla will within the next few years...
@@marcmcreynolds2827 did you educate your self instead of learning from school?
Now the launching site count may be the main limitations given so many competitors
Jiuquan is looking busy. Space Pioneer and Landspace is making their own launch site there.
Haiyang sea space port is getting new launch ship next year
Wenchang expansion is coming along slowly but surely.
Xichang just approve creation of commercial launch centre. Though I am a bit iffy on this one since Xichang have it “reputation” due to being inland launch site.
Apparently there might be brand new space port in Xiangshan in the future as well, making it another coastal launch site for China
Thanks!
Thanks for your regular support @Marlep, as always 🙏
The more people create a reusable rockets, the price of per seat will go down as for normal people can travel like flights to other countries. What an incredible generation we born in !!!
@@rifleiconic381 umm right now these 7 other high school projects are making Blue Origin look good. 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for sharing, I never imagined that there are so many companies in China
Good overview! The great number of startups with already impressive hardware is amazing, and undoubtedly at least some of them will achieve their goals.
But at the same time it must be said that making a small rocket that goes up and down a few kilometers is not yet a sign of being at the cusp of launching a reusable space launch vehicle. Advanced amateurs with deep pockets were successfully making such hoppers even before SpaceX was founded. It is hard, but it is not as crazy hard as making a rocket that launches a payload into orbit. And making the rocket that does that and then *also* lands, that is insanely hard. Still, a hopper is the necessary first step, and I am sure the young Chinese engineers will not stop at this first step.
Thanks! To some extent, I agree with you, notably for the earlier hoppers (ie Linkspace’s RLV-T5). But the latest tests were using in-house orbital class cryogenic 70-80 ton thrust engines, and tested TVC, RCS, grid fins, and deployable landing legs. Reaching altitudes of 10+ km means they are reaching MaxQ and part of the descent takes place in (complex) transonic regimes. I assure you this not amateur level rocketry.
That being said, I agree that there is still work to be done before full 1st stage recovery. The next milestone is an 100 km hop.
They will get there. Hell, Blue Origin has not yet gotten its own rocket to orbit.
@@DongfangHour Fully agree. A high altitude hop tests many important aspects of the later missions. It will be very exciting to see more companies landing their rockets after successful orbital launches.
@@DongfangHourI don’t think they are reaching Max Q. - Dave Huntsman
China new industry cycle
1. Push for as many as possible company to emerge using various government helps when necessary
2. First phase culling by reducing government help and let the weak company to die.
3. Give some time for a breather to let merger, acquisition etc happen
4. Second phase culling by stopping government helps or only make it minimum help to force the emergence of champion companies
5. Introduce big world champion company to give the domestic champion sense of threat to push them innovate even harder.
I wonder what stage is china space industry right now?
1 and soon to be 2
sink or swim baby. better than US COST PLUS contracts.
Sounds kind of efficient Tbh
That's what regular investors do.
is that what happened with BYD
Great video!
Man. Last time i was this early Blane Curcio was still part of this.
I wonder if SAST reusable rocket will be Long March 12R. Apparently that rocket is very different from base model LM-12 with it replacing all kerolox engine with unname methalox engine. Which does kinda make it sound like SAST resuable rocket
Seems like it. 7x methlox to replace 4x yf100
AGI, humanoid robots, and cheap space launches, are all coming at the same period within a few years time span. And fusion along with widespread quantum computing will most likely be a reality within a decade thanks to AGI.
This is the greatest time to be alive in human history.
No question China is no. 2 in the world in rocket launcher development. No other country other than the US comes close. This video was ver informative and interesting and there are very few RUclipsrs that I know of that are reporting on Chinese launch rocket developments. Thank you for your efforts.
Looking how the bad the Starliner has fkup, I dont think its true anymore. I think we are at the cross roads of leadership change.
I would put my money on space pioneer if they could recover reputation-wise from the dynamic fire. They have a better attitude of putting all their effort into actually building rockets and not PR and attracting investors(unlike Landspace or deep blue, which exhibit characteristics of Blue Origin/Boeing). When they goofed then there was a government check on all those companies and many of their competitors started relaxing, like how Landspace delayed their ZQ3 VTVL 10km hop from June to September. In fact, many of these companies keep delaying their deadlines. Sadly, only Landspace managed to successfully relight an engine mid flight and complete all the required tests for reusable capabilities. What remains to be seen is whether they could achieve a significant payload capability, because their payload predictions for the capability of ZQ3 wasn’t even informed by preliminary design but just a copy of Falcon 9.
Idk where your sources come from but there are many CN video channels that document the realistic progress of these companies, and it doesn’t look good. CN will have to continue relying on LM series rockets for liquid launches for a long time.
Didn’t space x already do this
so?
People still go to university even though others already graduated.
Do your next video on Chinese ChatGPT...or better yet, a Chinese iPod (SpaceX started when I had my first iPod).
12 years ago
@@mr_vvs copium
Dongfang used to spoil us with content years ago about 2 or 3 a month. But one a Month is still worth the wait. 😇👍🏿💯 Keep up the good work
Nabula 1 1st stage test flight footage is best rocket test video I have seen.
Thank you for your work. Great video and detailed content ❤
Thanks for making this video about the Chinese reusable rockets. There so little coverage about this in the west. 8 does sound like to many through, especially if they meet the same launch speed as space x.
The fact that the Chinese are competing against each other to ultimately compete internationally is a good thing...wow...Americans must come to the realization that competition is a good thing...not a bad thing!!!!..it helps bring costs down that results in lower costs to all consumers...both industrial and regular consumers....that is a good thing!!!!!!
Competition between US and China means war. All it does it create war. One side intends on winning. I would rather have the US compete within itself and dominate space than China and US compete. Would you rather have CCP values dominate space or American values?
guess u havnt heard about Blue Origin, RocketLab, Stoke Space, Relativity Space and few more. most of them already further along than any of these Chinese companies regarding reusable rockets. also most of them already having a reliable orbital rockets and or already doing similar propulsive landing tests.
CCP bot spotted 😂🤦🤷
@@fxarts9755 Forgot about Astra, Firefly, ULA, ABL, Northrup Grumman, etc. American spaceflight is frankly more insane in my opinion with how many people are working on it.
To be fair, Space X competes with multiple US launch services.
I suspect some of their smaller companies will end up consolidating into a larger company and some of them will just straight up fail and go bust. This happened in other Chinese industries as well. Loads of companies start with enthusiasm due to government subsidy and window guidance policy but when the industry matures and subsidies dry out or become more focused towards companies that perform the best, general economics just don't work for those companies at the bottom of the barrel.
@@tanjim4487 Is it possible that several of their companies have government support?
In fact, many countries want to acquire failed companies, which are priceless
The Chinese always surprise me,
In the U.S. they are making noise over Elon Musk's rocket,,
And the Chinese, many companies are already working quietly
without making noise.
i don't think many in the west know there's a chinese space station over their heads...
Why shouldn't the US make noise for good accomplishments? SpaceX already has reusable rockets and a satellite constellation.
@@fatdoi003 Many don't even know the ISS is up there
@@100c0c
The Americans are making noise, they probably have some kind of insecurity,
But what's more funny just like you are used to lying,
Elon Musk still does not have a reusable rocket, only in the experimental process.
@@Desyo-wn7ib the only thing the americans are trully unbeatable at is marketing
China needs this many rocket companies, because for them space access is a must do and they are not taking any chances. They are not willing to fund just a few that are economically sensible and see what happens.
US once kicked out a rocket scientist to china.
@@danwlfn 你说的是钱学森对吗？
The huge list was impressive to show. I was disappointed in the low tonnage to LEO. ONly 12 tonnes?! EEEK
I would gather that the actual space program (CSA) will always be 2 steps ahead.
A relatively minor achievement. They'll have that done in six months and exceed SpaceX in a year.
You on crack or fent?
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
stealing technology and reusability from SpaceX. The Chinese way!!!
OK CCP Bot
how will they exceed spaceX if they literally just took inspiration from it lmao
Love your content. Unfortunatelly most rocket youtubers focus on one part of the world and somehow miss almost entirely the chinese market.
It has been around thirty years since the DC-X demonstrated vertical launch and controlled landing. Plus DC-X was flown multiple times while demonstrating landings from a actual mission type profile. Perdictibly when turned over to NASA they suffered a landing accident.
SpaceX's big break came when they recieved some Federal money during development of the Falcon 9 because the USAF and other organizations wanted cheaper access. They didn't care if SpaceX developed a re-usable booster. They just wanted cheaper launch services.
After boosters the next step is recovery and reuse of the second stages. I'm surprised we haven't seen more effort being put into inflatable heat sheilds.
It's been 50+ years since the Moon Landing demonstrated controlled landing.
Great video. Looking forward to more launches.
Companies from various provinces and cities in China are engaged in fierce competition. This intense internal rivalry ensures that only the most successful will emerge to compete on the global stage. Rocket reusability is no different.
I agree, to some extent it resembles the money local governments were pouring into the Chinese EV market back in the 2010s.
Danke!
Appreciate your support !
Starship flight 5 made the Chinese realise just how far ahead SpaceX are. 😮😮😮
not really, Starship has been extremely fast development. Once you get Falcon 9, it's just scaling up. I'm more impressed with Heavy and the 2nd stage.
Starship is a failure. They have only one "successful" deployment and it exploded during re-entry. Moreover, none of their ships have been able to escape earth's gravity since their inception.
SpaceX's greatest gift to the world is bankrupting the us government.
@@skeelo69 why do u say Chinese why don’t you specify their companies
@@edringweeko3419 why? I mean who cares about the name of their company? Nobody really.. just call them chinese rockets is enough.
thank you for your videos! i always looking forward for your informative videos.
They even copy the logo on the pad...haahaa
It's what they good at. Steal technology
I am all for any country exploring space but just curious if China has an equivalent regulatory system to the West?
What is the turnaround time for a reusable rocket, what is the cost of refurbishment, is it significantly better than rebuilding the rocket? A closer look at Spacex suggests the benefits are marginal at best, maybe the Chinese can make it worthwhile
@@terranetti556 "Marginal at best" my guy they own more than half the satellites in orbit
When meaningful inventions, breakthroughs, and discoveries were successfully achieved, completed, full field, and realized with many years of research and spend millions of dollars of money by humans, China try to replicate it. Since it can be done, China will prove they can also do it as well.
不得不承认，美国技术总是走在前沿，应该说马斯克,没有他美国也落后！中国作为后进国，跟着走！中国必具备这样本领！美国的或者其他国家有新的发明，中国只需要看一眼就怀孕！当然，中国也需要更多自己创新技术！We have to admit that American technology is always at the forefront. It should be said that Musk, without him, the United States would lag behind! China, as a backward country, should follow! China must have such ability! If the United States or other countries have new technologies, China only needs to take a look at them! Of course, China also needs more innovative technologies of its own!
Fellow Asian from SEA here. I hated that you put Mixue and tons of electric cars in my country, lol.
But have to admitted that I wish you all greatly for semiconductor and space R&D. More competitor, better for all of us.
With all those mega hard education and tons of government money, its gonna be faster than we think for sure.
@@jnhkx Are you Thai? It's a pity that Chinese mixue and electric cars enter Southeast Asia. This should be a market behavior. If these Chinese products are unpopular and unsalable locally, then these Chinese products will withdraw from Southeast Asia! I personally welcome goods and electric cars from Southeast Asia to enter China! Just like welcoming Tesla and McDonald's! If Southeast Asian products are competitive enough! Yes, competitive products from foreign countries will always break the local dull consumer market! Hatred cannot promote market competition! Thank you for your wishes for Chinese semiconductors. According to my observation of the Chinese semiconductor market, Chinese companies are moving forward. Now China's manufacturing of 5nm chips depends on ASML equipment! Maybe in 2-3 years, we will get rid of ASML and use Chinese equipment to manufacture 5nm chips, completely breaking the US blockade!
@@jnhkx As for China's efforts in space, it has become less anxious! China has never thought about competing with the United States for first place. Let's move forward step by step according to the plan! It is more important for China to take Musk's Starlink as a goal and build a Chinese version of Starlink! Increase income for Chinese companies! There are multiple choices in this world!
China invented the concept of the first use of chemical rockets, and was using it in battle fields and fireworks. Everything else after that is just evolution of it, that includes the spaceX ones. The og is still China.
This just shows what can be done when you don't have to put up with government interference.
Chinese rocket companies:
We placed the engines on the bottom and the payload on top.
Americans: Ah, I see China is copying SpaceX.
In all seriousness, many Chinese companies definitely copy SpaceX (see how often presentations are literally duplicates of Falcon 1 - Falcon 9 - Falcon Heavy - Starship. That’s not surprising though, since already successful architectures should be a lot easier to develop vs figuring out something completely new.
是我们的国家管制的原因，国家之前认为，国家机构中国航天已经很优秀，当心民营企业进入火箭发射行业，吸收走国家培养的人才。直到马斯克回收火箭的成功，国家又发现了，需要民营企业的参与。目前我们的民营企业还不能主导参与军工产品
Yeah people think there's much real original invention in tech, Bezos space company would be happy to have some engineers from SpaceX and kinda use the same approach or similiar design like SpaceX with little tweaks.
So should china build them in square shapes with four wheels, to not look copied. What a stupidity.rocket science is complex and leaves only few ways to innovate.
@@gamh03 what about Rocketlab's Neutron then? Why aren't they just blatantly copying SpaceX?
@@leeswecho Rocketlab is planning to land on landing legs, just like Falcon 9
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Why do they all look like carbon copies of SpaceX? You forgot to mention the Government subsidies too. They are wanting to build an ICBM that is liquid fueled like sat launches. No other country has used liquid fuel for ICBMs since 1962.
Some of them look like carbon copies, others don't. I was specifically looking to see how many of the launchers were obvious knockoffs.
tbf, theres not so much freedom design wise when it comes to rockets
Very informative. I only knew a little bit of what you've mentioned. I learned a lot. Thanks
Maybe, you can do a video on the new Chinese moon suit, and compare it with the US'.
Moving forward like Chinese EVs, not actually. Funny these look like everyone else's rockets. HUH
impeccable job as always, jean. worth the wait
Great update. Western media does not cover space developments in China very often.
Vice-versa.
Okay so.. how about China not covering anything about western world? in this case, the space developments.
we are very happy to have you
07:15 casually testing their rocket in a populated area?
Nice!
These companies are progressing at lightspeed!
Copying at lightspeed
Copying is much easier than innovating.
wait until u hear spaceX starship pace
Sounds cool but energy field manipulation is better. To fly without fuel is the goal.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻
starship has 150 tons payload capacity
Looks like someone got into the SpaceX computers
Why? Can you see that they are using spacex secrets or only the stuff that spacex copied from the public domain?
@@tricky778The self landing software. It’s hard and expensive to create, which is why Blue Origin and Rocket Lab are still, to this day, far behind Spacex. Combine that with the fact that it is no secret that China commits corporate espionage in the US and you have your answer.
stealing technology and reusability from SpaceX. The Chinese way!!!
@@mike-0451
Anyone could develop rocket landing software.
The best way to do it nowadays is teacing an AI in a simulator.
Much better than developing it algorithmically, although that's also possible.
I think an AI is much better at handling changes in engine power, and failure of some engines. It would be much more robust!
These things are difficult to program. Much easier to teach an AI.
There's no need to copy anyone's software.
If one would steal anything, it would be SpaceX rocket engine designs and production tech.
Great video! Thanks for the update !
Nothing surprises me anymore when I know how many Chinese engineers work at SpaceX. Chinese industrial espionage is flourishing throughout America. I would also like to see something invented by them and not stolen as usual.
@@emilnedy2222 nahx SpaceX is not allowed to hired foreigners in their company… only American citizens if I am not wrong
@Samuel-qe9lj Sure but a huge portion are Chinese Americans, just like the rest of the tech industry.
😂You gotta remember that China is the first inventor of rockets a chemical propelled fight object along with cannons and gun powders. Just like the equation of e = mc2 the concept provided the spark to all the possibilities that we have now and forever.
Idiot. Musk just finished complaining about this.
The US Department of Defense prohibits any rocket company in the US from hiring foreigners.
@@passby8070 Chopsticks also, maybe you can claim credit for that from SpaceX too.
Thank you for what you do
I sure don't believe that China is close to this, they can't even test a rocket without having it accidentally fly away. How in the world would they be able to do this
@@galaxiedance3135 keep doubting
@@galaxiedance3135 mate... I'm sure you don't actually believe what you're saying.
You literally just saw Chinese companies successfully testing these rockets... They successfully landed.
@@SifisoMoabj idk man. nasa did similar tests to these back in the 90s - (DCX Delta clipper)
this is like the first step. not bad but still a long long way to go
Child!
i mean space x also took its time to make f9 reusable so i don't think they will take that long to make it work.
Excellent topic, and coverage. 🚀♥ The next couple years are going to be super exciting.
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True. Unders CPC, China built their own space station and there will be crews from 7 other nations that will take part. Under US gov, 2 astronauts got stranded, and they are still up there.
Once the Chinese space companies make the breakthroughs they may dominate the space sector as the do with the EVs.incidentally? In both fields they are competing with Elon Musk’s companies.
lol...rocket is US stronghold, china will not beat US anytime soon
Agree with you, once the Chinese master the technology, they will burst out with the scale and potential of terror
China: If you can't make your own technology, copy it from the US, Europe, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan. 😂😂😂
And nowadays they cooy so fast they have it before you have it!
Why it won't mention in the China gov news?
I wonder how much technology companies have been sifoning out of space X😂😂😂😂😂
Keep wondering...
@@Tony-cs5hq still am 😎😎😎
My india can't even launch a rocket without Russian technology but we are dreaming of surpassing china.
The future of space is all about dominating in space, not cheap launch capability.
Wow Its not like China to rip off designs from America, looks like they took a page out of Elons book
China’s students plagiarise entire books.
Did you see musk complaining about ip theft? Why don't you think before you piss? Oh right ló ÎQ
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Wow the ferrals are out with the pack today .
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@@peanut0brain Try learning to spell before you vomit trash Dim wit
Wait isn't the tethered net system way smarter and cheaper than the Mechazilla? Maybe not, because I guess you still need to put the rocket on the ground before another launch and that's easier with Mechazilla. Unless you move the ground to the rocket.. lol.. which would be possible in theory.
Mechazilla will be needed to put the Starship booster on the launch stand and the upper stage on the booster. Having it catch the booster just means they don't need any extra hardware. Previously, a giant crane separate to the launch tower was used.
Tethered net is not a bad way to catch boosters, as far as I can tell, especially since CASC wants to use it on drone ships where there is no launch tower to put grabbing arms on.
Mechazilla’s function allows for retrieval _and_ re-stacking of the vehicle within minutes of launch and recovery, rather than days or weeks. Catching a booster with wires is comparable not to starship but Falcon 9. They are catching them on wires because they cannot design a program to land the rocket themselves. They’ll have to steal that somehow.
The race for second reusable orbital launcher is between Blue Origin and the many innovative companies.
My money is on China.
You are so resourceful and you present your information professionally. Excellent job!
I wonder if a high-speed train ending in an upward bend would save fuel.
It seems to me like rockets spend a lot of fuel before they get any upward speed!
This would also be a better landing mechanism than SpacX's chopsticks.
I know, the Chinese mastered chopsticks thousands of years ago. But, trust me, landing between those easily fails.
Landing against an almost vertical wagon already moving downwards.
The decent speed of the rocket wouldn't have to be so precisely controlled.
I think the speed of the wagon would be matching the speed of the rocket.
We wouldn't want to heat the Landing mechanism too much with the rocket engines, if the rocket was hanging under the track it wouldn't.
Exactly how to do that might be a difficult problem, but worth solving.
Thank you for this informative update🙂🙏🙂
This video of yours is now viral!
Every journey starts somewhere, Mac!
Thank you for your informative vlog. I am learning a lot without hidden racist propaganda.
That tether catch is 🔥
Great video Channel.
Good report. - Dave Huntsman
What happene to Russia & Europe? All I see is USA China & india startups are making rockets. Many govt agencies of these 3 countries now rely on private startups for their supplies & logistics. Space X is miles ahead of Chinese & Indian startups but China is catching indian space companies are still in nascent stage. Some Indian startups are doing great in satelite services,rocket is still 1 decade behind US china. Skyroot got good results in its previous tests. Hope one day these companies form a giant companies to launch human to far plantes like Mars & Jupiter moons .
great to see a lot of companies competing and moving forward ..
Thoroughly informative video, thanks a lot.
Great video! China always moves fast once they start.
They started to get free speech in the late 80's...then Tiananmen Square happened (and Tibet, and religious persecutions, and Xinjiang, and the Great Firewall, and a dictator for life, and...and...and...).
It would be a huge shame if another country sabotaged their efforts
The US sabotages itself all the time.
"Another country" would do that if it was possible. But sanctions doesn't work when all the development is done within a country.
Which is the only country to land a craft on Venus?
When landing, hydrogen balloon at cabin side will hold posture of vessel body to sit on the pad.
Bro, if they keep putting up mega constellations shit's gonna be like that scene from wall-e
Thanks for your info about CHina rocket tech..
keep going..
um a subscriber..
The dynasties of old would have been VERY impressed!
Still waiting for Falcon 9 but MethaLox to be the thing
starship and Vulcan (ULA) are the only methalox in the US I think
@@100c0cblue origin NewGlen too
even rice they can make copies