@@martymccann4935 Your entitled to your own opinion, but it’s absolutely absurd to call Halloween 2018 a piece of crap. Like seriously that movie probably has the most passion and effort poured into it than any other Halloween movie. It’s objectively a very well made film.
Brad Dourif really steals the show. His acting in this was among the best of his career along with his work in Deadwood and Cuckoo's Nest. Annie's death was heartbreaking.
@@captainspyder6754 Check out his meltdown in the season 1 finale of Deadwood. Brad was amazing in this film and suffers the most in the end (D-cut or T-cut)
Gotta give Rob Zombie props. He made Michael scary again. Imagine a 7 foot unstoppable killer coming after you. This is how Michael should have been from the beginning
Michael was BRUTAL in this film even moreso than H6. I loved his realistic look because if Myers was living on the run he would be unkempt and filthy and full facial hair. He still became the Shape when he donned the ripped mask and hoodie. It was awesome seeing this version of Michael.
I’m glad I found this! Great stuff man! Always love to see someone give love to this movie! I’m glad I’m not the only one making videos about this one too 😂.
I loved the character of Annie in this movie the tough no nonsense survivor she had become ... loved Linda's father yelling at Loomis... but the best part was the BRUTAL Octavia Spencer hospital death scene (I prefer the directors cut version which has even more stabs(
Awesome review, dude. 😊 I just LOVE this movie so much. It is definitely my personal favorite horror movie and it's an underrated horror masterpiece. I love the remake, too. ❤
The new film delves deep into the whole survivor trauma and PTSD stuff that Laurie experiences and I love that RZ explored that well in this film. RZ's H2 was very emotional especially Annie's death and aftermath. Whatever people think of RZ he did save the Halloween franchise and made it damn good horror again after the dogshit called Resurrection.
Dude your review of the first RZ's Halloween convinced me to watch it again today. I loved it but just hadn't seen it in like 6 years. I liked RZH2 as well at first and then loved it the more I watched it. The Scream Factory one isn't grainy to me. The "hobo" Michael did take a while to grow on me, then I realized that him wearing the mask, only when he's about to kill someone was amazing.
He really did. He looked very realistic and terrifying when he lurked in the shadows with the mask on and hoodie up (the mask had a cool Phantom of the Opera thing after the stripper ripped a piece of it off.) Hobo Michael was awesome
I've always loved both of the rob zombie Halloween films. Mostly I find myself watching Halloween II more than his first movie. It's very unique and Halloween II is the series at its darkest and most brutal. Really I prefer the theatrical version of this movie because of its ending. The unrated ending with Michael and his mask off and says "die" really turned me off. The theatrical ending is way better with Laurie going g over to Michael and says "I love you brother" and stabs him multiple times. Then walks out with Michael's mask on. That's my preferred ending of Halloween II. Besides that I love everything in Halloween II.
I just saw this movie and I wasn't expecting to like it so much, especially because I thought that the first one one was so messed up. As always, great review!
Also, I like the hospital scene in the beginning, even as a dream sequence. Since the original Halloween 2 took place in a hospital, I think that this scene in Rob Zombie’s version was a sort of nod to that film.
Hell yeah dude.. i loved it better then the first one.. i hated the dialogue on this one more. but the direction and different approach it took makes it good.. and the cameos are awesome... the white horse stuff would of been better had it been explained , i honestly think it should of took a who've done it approach and make it look like michael did it all.. but it turns out to be lori.. i think rob wanted that but the studio stepped in letting him do whatever he wanted as long as he put in michael and shocking kill scenes.. but the emotional parts and acting were well done.. it is cool seeing michael myers being realistic and an animal.. michael is scary as fuck in this one , and his kills are done well i love it when he grunts and looks like a man till he puts on the ripped mask... lori and loomis were better written but it should of lasted more with them.. and brad doriff stole the movie it should of kept it all in one characters point of view.. i think annie , you're awesome dude.. i agree and feel all the same opinions you have.. my favorite parts were how you see all the characters loose there mental states from the last movie.. i hated all the crappy parts tho .. but seeing loomis be a sellout while lori and annie are still suffering is what could of made the movie better without even michael he could of been the nightmare boogyman parts making it look real but it ends up all being her... and brad doriff shoots her and cries....
The two problems I had with this movie was Michael's grunting every time he would stab somebody, and how Loomis was basically a total douchebag til the last 15 minutes of the movie. Overall I did enjoy the movie though, especially the last 30 seconds.
I think the Rob Zombie movies are like Marmite. People either love them or hate them and there's no inbetween. I think both of them were a positive change in direction after the way the pre-reboot series had gone. And I really liked what they did with the lore and exploring Michael Myers in more detail. I also really like this version of Michael. Because the fact that he's seven feet tall and built like the side of a house makes him seem all the more unstoppable. Even more so than the old-school Michael, even though this Michael is actually the more mortal version. Bullets actually matter to Rob Zombie's Michael. It's possible to make a character scary without them having any overt supernatural abilities; just make them a human tank.
Rzs H2 is honestly like my 2nd or 3rd favorite in the entire series. Rob did an amazing job. This was way better than his remake and I enjoyed the remake. This film as well as H3 and H6 were the only to truly capture the look and feel of October midwest Halloween. Even the original did not capture that as good as this film. Rob made a great and original film while Halloween 2018 was a big letdown and nothing new or original.
Loved it... sure it has issues but who cares. I'm glad you are also a fan of character development in horror movies as well. Tyler Mane has become my fave Michael Myers, and I dig the hobo look as well (at least it's different and makes sense rather than he is in hibernation or something like the old ones). Bugs me how ppl complain "the ghost of his mum" !!! What?? No, he's crazy and he sees her but she ain't actually there. Bleeding hell lol
Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe Rob shot this on 16mm which explains why it's so grainy. Agree, enjoyed this film alot(The Unrated). Glad it tried to be it's own thing. Rob's slasher take on the Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Good: Laurie Bad: Michael Ugly: Loomis
sinister cinema reviews. I loved this movie I mean I understand why people hated it but I personally think it was good for what it was especially how Michael psychologically scarred Laurie whereas besides in H20 where Laurie (Jamie) became an alcoholic barely paranoid person this one straight shows just how far a traumatic experience can affect someone
I have to admit that at 1st viewing was not feeling this movie, because it was sooo brutal and left field of the 1st Halloween that Zombie did. After additional viewings....its a classic. Zombie at his best, Because its so brutal, and because the dream sequence was soo scary and realistic to someone experiencing PTSD. It takes a deep dive into the dark sides of trauma, with all of these things aside, freaking scary. Great acting! Annie's scene the murder and her dad and Laurie finding her....heartbreaking but realistic sometimes we say things we regret to people we love and we can't take it back....but you could see how much they loved Annie......much better than the 1st to me.
The stuff with the pumpkin gods got me, I find it hard to look past that and Malcom McDowell's portrayal of Loomis, honestly. Having said that, the brutality worked very well and I don't hate the film - I certainly commend Rob Zombie for trying something different.
Exceptional in depth review. Which is your fave ending of the two? Did you see the uncut version too? I've heard from horror movie fans that Laurie did die, she did get shot several times.. and the vision of the white horse etc is her version of the afterlife
Karla Straight yeah I’ve seen both. I prefer the one where Michael yells Die! I don’t understand the problem with it. It’s pretty awesome he finally said something and of all the words he would say this would be it. It brings great depth to the character.
Love this movie! OMG you are right about recasting Daeg with another child who has none of Daeg's charisma and anger. That kid looked like he came from Nickolodeon. The white horse was ok, I guess. The kills, esp the nurse at the beginning are fantastic!!!. I love how Annie has become so strong with dealing with what happened to her in the first movie, and due to the trauma, is so longer so sexy and goofy. She's grounded and serious. Her death was heartbreaking. As much as I love the movie the character of Laurie really did annoy me, she turned into a shrieking harridan. I understand she is mentally unstable and naturally she would be a mess, but she's so out of control and hard to feel bad for her. The uncut version is so much better, always watch the uncut versions of all horror movies. With two endings out there, I like the one where Micheal, Laurie and Loomis all die in a circle outside the barn due to stabs/gunshots. Great remake of song "love hurts"
I have a theory that the original ending would’ve had a reveal that all the killings in the movie were Michael really died in the first one and Laurie actually committed all the murders in this one and Michael was just a figment if her imagination. I think that may have been the direction Rob wanted to go but they wouldn’t let him.
I've finally seen RZ'H2 last night. Well, I didn't really like it. I think Zombie's style and esthetics are not my cup of tea. But I have to say I kind of admire him for daring making it so different than Carpenter's movies. Annoying Laurie, pricky Loomis, talking huge bum Myers, horses and visions. Why not? On the other we have seen most of particular ingridients of his remake sequel before in other horrors, or even Halloweens. But his style make it a stand out for sure. Cheers!
I’m glad I finally have some idea of what happened to little Michael, I never understood this, I thought no one else noticed that switch because I never heard RZ say nothing bout it.
Yay...SLASHER SUNDAY!! As I already stated in Killer Flicks....I LOVE the beginning(The Hospital) and there are bits and pieces sprinkled throughout the movie that I liked.I actually prefer this to his Halloween Remake...Shocking huh? Thumbs Up Jason😎👍
Thank you for not taking the, "motives ruin everything" route. Honestly, I think that's the reason why the slasher genre is looked down on by some, because it just seems like they're nothing more than thoughtless stabathons. So I really appreciate what Zombie did with both his movies.
If I ever have some chance to meet Rob Zombie I am going to tell him H2 is his fuckin masterpiece and one of the greatest slashers of all time. People say this one is far fetched, but the ambiguity of it all honors the motivation of the original. For the one and only time we see the inside Michael's mind. Done in a subtle way that can be and apparently is overlooked by most. But people don't like to think too much do they? Haha
I love Rob’s Halloween films. I would argue that Halloween 2 is better than the first one, regarding Rob’s two. I like the depth that Rob gave Michael and Laurie. It’s not the same absent minded slasher franchise. Loved the white horse bit.
I finally saw this movie a couple days ago. It's definitely not a bad remake IMO. Not a movie I'd buy, but definitely worth a watch. I really like the way Danielle Harris's character matured. She was my favorite character in the movie and it bothered me when she was killed. I guess it's crazy that I never watched it before considering it's almost ten years old. But I just saw Jacobs's Ladder for the first time yesterday and I liked it. It was a lot different than Adrian Lyne's typical movies. I mean when someone says Adrian Lyne I think fatal attraction or nine and a half weeks. Good review Jason, sorry for rambling lol.
First I respect your opinion and I would never insult you for liking this horrible movie but H2 sucks! This is a prime example of trying to do something crazy different and completely screwing it up in every possible way! The idea for the movie had a good foundation but between the horrible writing and over acting and hating most of the characters this movie fails in every way! Laurie is very unlikable most of the film and it's hard to root for her beyond the first act! Dr. Loomis is an ass and I hate him in the movie for everything he does! Annie frankly is the best character and she's given nothing to do and her death is pointless and makes no sense because Michael would never have known where Sheriff Bracket even lived! Sheriff Bracket is the other strong point of this movie but even though he gives a strong performance again it's because his daughter is killed off in a horrible pointless way so his strong performance is negated by Annie's pointless death! This movie has not grown on most it's still really hated and for good reason, the internet has just allowed the small amount of the horror audience that like this movie to find each other and it's not a large audience! I am in the process of beginning to rewrite the movie when it's finished I will upload the script on RUclips and share it with everyone and I think my version will be far better and liked by most of the horror community!
I saw this in theaters also and it was EXCELLENT. I enjoyed the remake but RZs H2 was way better. A brutal, dark, atmospheric, and violent slasher film full of emotionand style. It retains just enough of the Halloween mythos to still be a Halloween film but also a great RZ horror mindfuck. Loomis was an Elseworlds type version and he was supposed to be a bit of an antagonist. Donald will always be Donald but Malcolm did alright for this universe's Loomis.
I love the Rob Zombie Halloween films. IMO, I think the reason his versions get a bad rap is because everyone compares it to John Carpenter’s. If his Halloween films stood by themselves w/out any previous Halloween films, I feel that they’d turn into mainstream classics and most everyone would like them. A little off the subject, I’m stuck in the 70s and 80s when it comes to my music, and that’s why I absolutely love Zombie’s choice of soundtracks. However, he has issues with assigning the proper music with the time period a movie is set in, like in 3 From Hell. The movie takes place 10 years after the Devil’s Rejects, in 1988, but he uses music from an album that was released in 1973 (James Gang). Don’t get me wrong, I love it, but it doesn’t make sense to me honestly. I don’t know, his movies are kind of gritty, so maybe that’s why he does it, as 70s rock, especially Southern rock is rather gritty. That’s just my opinion.
After watching this review I went back to watch it again I'm not gonna lie when I saw this in the theatre initially the white horse was such a turn of i boycotted a rewatch until 2011 i can now say ive watched this no less then Fifty times now its one of the greatest slashers ever Michael is so vicious and though the white horse and new kid mike is off putting this film far makes up for it in every other aspect. Now we just need a white horseless cut and it would be a perfect film
I love your reviews and I agree with u this movie is really good as it's different than the original and I might get hate for this but I rather Laurie Strode's actress in this movie than Jamie Lee in Halloween even though I love the original I rather the acting in this movie but I do love Dr Lomis in the original no one can do it better than him he is just too iconic.
truth this movie was going to have Laurie as killer and Micheal was already dead, and at end of the movie Laurie would be killer and kill Dr Loomis and then flash back would show Micheal/Laurie killing people. but the owner of the series said Micheal has to be the killer. so that was scarped, the ending scene where she shoots down was kept in the movie, do think the movie would have did better if they keep that original ending? also good review u got now sub ^^
the white horse stuff made me think of Twin Peaks when i saw it. my only real issue with this one is the language its as hard to listen to as Django in places lol, I've written 6 books and i haven't clocked up nearly as much swearing as RZ's halloween 2
I have problems with this movie but when i saw it in theaters when it came out i loved it, then a bit went by and didnt like it as much, what is amazing in this film though is Brad Dourif and Tyler Mane
@@sinistercinemareviews5420 every viewing was different for me for a while but now it does get better every time, i think it's because i saw a video of Zombie talking about the ending., Also who's your favorite horror character?
People are so weird sometimes. As you said they complain if there is a character background given and they rather don't know anything about them. If you show them "The Open House" they will shit all over that movie for not having that. I liked that one a lot and when trying to talk about it everybody calls it shit. I guess it's the same with the RZ versions of "Halloween". I liked them, too. But my taste seems to be weird anyway. Well, I enjoy what I enjoy, what the hell do I care if others can't handle that. ;)
So true. And I don't get the negativity. I watched and had a bast with it. Right the next day I showed it to my wife and she liked it just the same. And often our taste is quite divided. But here we were totally on the same page. And on the www you find haters almost in every review. Lee and you seem to be the exception, haha.
Yeah same here. I grew up with a lot of the old classics but yet I am way more into good remakes. I like a modern feel to movies. Good lighting, good camera work, etc. Most people despise new stuff, but I find it great to go with the times and see how things evolve. Take Halloween for example. I never was much into the entire original series. I like the first one and love it for what it has done for the genre, but I really have a hard time sitting through them. I prefer the RZ versions even though that is solely based on how brutal Michael is portrayed. A Michael like this with the feel of the first one, that would be wow. Like the best of both worlds. But well, gotta see the new one and hope for the best :D
Can someone list the movies from each clip in the intro? I WOULD LOVE THAT. I seem to be unfamiliar with some of these iconic looking kills and would love to give each movie a watch!! @sinistercinemareviews love these videos
In order of scenes -Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 -Pieces -Don’t go in the house -Friday the 13th Part 4 The Final Chapter -Pieces (again) -Motel Hell -Nightmare Beach AKA Welcome to Spring Break -Maniac (2012) -Sleepaway Camp 2 Unhappy Campers -Slumber Party Massacre 2 -Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (Again) -Tourist Trap -The Burning -Jason X
You think this new Halloween film gonna be good bc in my opinion I really don't know like I wouldn't be shocked if it's just ok or bad Bc rz era n brand of Michael I really enjoyed
Luke Joles I definitely think they are going to try and capture the feeling of the first which would be a good thing since none of the sequels outside of 2 really did that. The first is tonally my favorite and seeing something more like that would be very welcomed
In my opinion this is a shitty Halloween movie but if you change the characters and title it's a solid and brutal horror flick. So many good kills in this, but my god! That scene where he stomps that dudes face by the dumpster is as brutal as it gets and I love it!
I think this movie works as a stand alone but not as a Halloween film.Its to far removed from the franchise it's the same as Jason goes to hell a good film but not a Friday film.
I can understand a hallowern fan hating rz h2, but I feel the movie gets way too much hate. The directors cut I agree because it's horrible. But the theatrical cut, to me at least, is one of the best Halloween sequels and it's easily the ballsiest one. Everything in the movie makes sense to some degree Michael has no home, so ofc he's gonna look homeless. Loomis became a millionaire likely off what happened, so it's likely he's gonna be arrogant to other people because he sees them below him in wealth. Laurie became mentally scarred from the events of the 2007 one so she isn't going to be that goody 2 shoes friendly happy girl like she was in the first one. The white horse while annoying and the movie could've done without it, is Michael's point of view and his hallucinations. Michael wouldn't wear his mask much because, well the police would be looking for a guy in a decerept shatnar mask so he wouldnt wear it. I think hobo michael looks badass when he had the mask on. The characters may not be hugely likeable, but to me Laurie especially is so damn interesting on how she kept on living. This film is one of my favourite movies and no one's changing my opinion its easily the most unique movie since the first one and from what I've seen people just seem to want the same thing over and over and over. This movie is by a mile the most underrated of the franchise, and hell. Its in the top 3 of halloween movies for me. It just works for me.
So i love the movie and dont mind michael talking at the end, my question is if he could talk why would his choice words be "die"? The only reason i question this is when he shows Laurie the picture in the first film, if he could have said something why didnt he say "brother" or anything to convey to her shes the baby and hes her brother? He didnt/couldn't, but then decides to say die here.. Lol, I love both films but i think the picture scene could have been the prime opportunity for him to choose to say anything :P
If I had to give an in universe reason I would say that Loomis was always the one trying to get him to speak and when he finally does it’s Michael stabbing him to death haha
I love house of 1000 corpses for paying homage to everything in horror and being parody but not stupid or boring devils rejects was foul and gritty as hell cant wait for new firefly family entry other that rob zombie is a fake
Gotta admit i really didnt like this movie. When i saw it in the cinema it just really annoyed me that he'd put his wife in the movie for no reason with that daft horse stuff. Ive never seen it again cos ive avoided it ever since but ive heard that the directors version is different & loads better so was wondering if this is true? If it is i might give it a 2nd chance. If its basically similar to the theatrical version tho i dont think ill bother.
That intro!. You know I love this movie. It just gets better with every viewing too.
Do you prefer the theatrical or directors cut? I love the directors cut, personally.
@Kylloween I hated Halloween 2018 overrated piece of crap I'll take rob zombies Halloween movies over the new Halloween movies
@@Hank_Poole the directors cut makes it even better to me I love this movie !
@@martymccann4935 Your entitled to your own opinion, but it’s absolutely absurd to call Halloween 2018 a piece of crap. Like seriously that movie probably has the most passion and effort poured into it than any other Halloween movie. It’s objectively a very well made film.
Brad Dourif really steals the show. His acting in this was among the best of his career along with his work in Deadwood and Cuckoo's Nest. Annie's death was heartbreaking.
Sam Loomis That scene is just heartbreaking it nearly made me teary eyed, the first time a Halloween movie has done that to me
@@captainspyder6754 Check out his meltdown in the season 1 finale of Deadwood. Brad was amazing in this film and suffers the most in the end (D-cut or T-cut)
Gotta give Rob Zombie props. He made Michael scary again. Imagine a 7 foot unstoppable killer coming after you. This is how Michael should have been from the beginning
Michael was BRUTAL in this film even moreso than H6. I loved his realistic look because if Myers was living on the run he would be unkempt and filthy and full facial hair. He still became the Shape when he donned the ripped mask and hoodie. It was awesome seeing this version of Michael.
I’m glad I found this! Great stuff man! Always love to see someone give love to this movie! I’m glad I’m not the only one making videos about this one too 😂.
Like a ton of other people on KF, I already showed my love for this one :)
I loved the character of Annie in this movie the tough no nonsense survivor she had become ... loved Linda's father yelling at Loomis... but the best part was the BRUTAL Octavia Spencer hospital death scene (I prefer the directors cut version which has even more stabs(
All great stuff right there. I’m not sure what I prefer
Awesome review, dude. 😊 I just LOVE this movie so much. It is definitely my personal favorite horror movie and it's an underrated horror masterpiece. I love the remake, too. ❤
That is why I love H3 and H6 and RZ's H2 so much because it was something different and very original.
The new film delves deep into the whole survivor trauma and PTSD stuff that Laurie experiences and I love that RZ explored that well in this film. RZ's H2 was very emotional especially Annie's death and aftermath. Whatever people think of RZ he did save the Halloween franchise and made it damn good horror again after the dogshit called Resurrection.
You right
I've always loved both of zombies Halloween's and I like this one more Everytime I watch it
Dude your review of the first RZ's Halloween convinced me to watch it again today. I loved it but just hadn't seen it in like 6 years. I liked RZH2 as well at first and then loved it the more I watched it. The Scream Factory one isn't grainy to me. The "hobo" Michael did take a while to grow on me, then I realized that him wearing the mask, only when he's about to kill someone was amazing.
Yes! I may pick up the Scream factory box set
Sinister Cinema Reviews I hope you find it for a decent price because its OOP, unless you're talking about the 10 disc set. I have the 15 disc one
"I know how to spell DAUGHTER!!!! Yes er'!!!! M-O-O-N!"
And homeless michael looked awesome..
He really did. He looked very realistic and terrifying when he lurked in the shadows with the mask on and hoodie up (the mask had a cool Phantom of the Opera thing after the stripper ripped a piece of it off.) Hobo Michael was awesome
According to Zombie's commentary, all three are dead at the end.
Maurice Tha Beast Vlogz good to know
I've always loved both of the rob zombie Halloween films. Mostly I find myself watching Halloween II more than his first movie. It's very unique and Halloween II is the series at its darkest and most brutal. Really I prefer the theatrical version of this movie because of its ending. The unrated ending with Michael and his mask off and says "die" really turned me off. The theatrical ending is way better with Laurie going g over to Michael and says "I love you brother" and stabs him multiple times. Then walks out with Michael's mask on. That's my preferred ending of Halloween II. Besides that I love everything in Halloween II.
I have grown to absolutely love this movie... took awhile but wow its better on every viewing! And I prefer the ending that everybody else hates!
Karla Straight I loved it first view. But I like it more each time
How dare someone give you a thumbs down 😡😡😡
I want to give you a thumbs up...
I just saw this movie and I wasn't expecting to like it so much, especially because I thought that the first one one was so messed up. As always, great review!
Great film and great review!
Thanks 😀
love that RZ halloween shirt, I love the theatrical cut of this film
Also, I like the hospital scene in the beginning, even as a dream sequence. Since the original Halloween 2 took place in a hospital, I think that this scene in Rob Zombie’s version was a sort of nod to that film.
I love your channel bro! Been binge watching your halloween series reveiw getting ready for the new one!!!!
Sebastian seibers you see my trailer reaction?? I was amped!
Sinister Cinema Reviews for a first reaction video it was damn good. I cant wait for it, I will be there first day 💯
Hell yeah dude.. i loved it better then the first one.. i hated the dialogue on this one more. but the direction and different approach it took makes it good.. and the cameos are awesome... the white horse stuff would of been better had it been explained , i honestly think it should of took a who've done it approach and make it look like michael did it all.. but it turns out to be lori.. i think rob wanted that but the studio stepped in letting him do whatever he wanted as long as he put in michael and shocking kill scenes.. but the emotional parts and acting were well done.. it is cool seeing michael myers being realistic and an animal.. michael is scary as fuck in this one , and his kills are done well i love it when he grunts and looks like a man till he puts on the ripped mask... lori and loomis were better written but it should of lasted more with them.. and brad doriff stole the movie it should of kept it all in one characters point of view.. i think annie , you're awesome dude.. i agree and feel all the same opinions you have.. my favorite parts were how you see all the characters loose there mental states from the last movie.. i hated all the crappy parts tho .. but seeing loomis be a sellout while lori and annie are still suffering is what could of made the movie better without even michael he could of been the nightmare boogyman parts making it look real but it ends up all being her... and brad doriff shoots her and cries....
Cool review,I can't wait till you start reviewing Lucio fulci films.
I gotta finish Argento first
One of my favorite movies of all time.
I love this movie too, the most underrated entry in the series and personally my 3rd favourite Halloween movie
Yes!!
Same for me
I loved it the first time I saw it too
The two problems I had with this movie was Michael's grunting every time he would stab somebody, and how Loomis was basically a total douchebag til the last 15 minutes of the movie. Overall I did enjoy the movie though, especially the last 30 seconds.
I think the Rob Zombie movies are like Marmite. People either love them or hate them and there's no inbetween. I think both of them were a positive change in direction after the way the pre-reboot series had gone. And I really liked what they did with the lore and exploring Michael Myers in more detail.
I also really like this version of Michael. Because the fact that he's seven feet tall and built like the side of a house makes him seem all the more unstoppable. Even more so than the old-school Michael, even though this Michael is actually the more mortal version. Bullets actually matter to Rob Zombie's Michael. It's possible to make a character scary without them having any overt supernatural abilities; just make them a human tank.
Rzs H2 is honestly like my 2nd or 3rd favorite in the entire series. Rob did an amazing job. This was way better than his remake and I enjoyed the remake. This film as well as H3 and H6 were the only to truly capture the look and feel of October midwest Halloween. Even the original did not capture that as good as this film. Rob made a great and original film while Halloween 2018 was a big letdown and nothing new or original.
Sam Loomis agreed
The song in the hospital "nights in white satin " explains the entire movie
I’ll listen to the lyrics closer
Loved it... sure it has issues but who cares. I'm glad you are also a fan of character development in horror movies as well. Tyler Mane has become my fave Michael Myers, and I dig the hobo look as well (at least it's different and makes sense rather than he is in hibernation or something like the old ones). Bugs me how ppl complain "the ghost of his mum" !!! What?? No, he's crazy and he sees her but she ain't actually there. Bleeding hell lol
Love love love this movie! Nice to go through all your halloween videos man! YOU ROCK!
Emil Björklund thanks man.
Can we all agree that this is one of the more story driven films of the franchise and how much fucking balls to the walls that this film went.
We can yes.
I always knew there was more folks out there that appreciate this film. And it gets better after mutiple watches.
Aaron Burr!!, Aaron Burr!! I loved that commercial
Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe Rob shot this on 16mm which explains why it's so grainy.
Agree, enjoyed this film alot(The Unrated).
Glad it tried to be it's own thing.
Rob's slasher take on the Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
Good: Laurie
Bad: Michael
Ugly: Loomis
TK1971 yeah I’ve read the grain is intentional since I filmed this
I like this movie too, but it does have flaws. That intro is slick.
On the subject of Rob Zombie, have you reviewed "Devil's Rejects"? I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts on that one?
The Devils's Rejects is a rare film that actually surpasses the first film (very rare for sequels). I loved House of 1000 Corpses but TDR was amazing.
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I loved this movie I mean I understand why people hated it but I personally think it was good for what it was especially how Michael psychologically scarred Laurie whereas besides in H20 where Laurie (Jamie) became an alcoholic barely paranoid person this one straight shows just how far a traumatic experience can affect someone
I have to admit that at 1st viewing was not feeling this movie, because it was sooo brutal and left field of the 1st Halloween that Zombie did. After additional viewings....its a classic. Zombie at his best, Because its so brutal, and because the dream sequence was soo scary and realistic to someone experiencing PTSD. It takes a deep dive into the dark sides of trauma, with all of these things aside, freaking scary. Great acting! Annie's scene the murder and her dad and Laurie finding her....heartbreaking but realistic sometimes we say things we regret to people we love and we can't take it back....but you could see how much they loved Annie......much better than the 1st to me.
The stuff with the pumpkin gods got me, I find it hard to look past that and Malcom McDowell's portrayal of Loomis, honestly. Having said that, the brutality worked very well and I don't hate the film - I certainly commend Rob Zombie for trying something different.
Well, I find that most people who talk about Laurie being "annoying" in THESE films talk about the infamous DONUT scene in particular.
That was just an attempt at separating her from the goody two shoes Laurie from 1978
Exceptional in depth review. Which is your fave ending of the two? Did you see the uncut version too? I've heard from horror movie fans that Laurie did die, she did get shot several times.. and the vision of the white horse etc is her version of the afterlife
Karla Straight yeah I’ve seen both. I prefer the one where Michael yells Die! I don’t understand the problem with it. It’s pretty awesome he finally said something and of all the words he would say this would be it. It brings great depth to the character.
I don't remember which version he yells "die" in but I do love that moment, and yeah that WOULD be the word he would say
Love this movie! OMG you are right about recasting Daeg with another child who has none of Daeg's charisma and anger. That kid looked like he came from Nickolodeon. The white horse was ok, I guess. The kills, esp the nurse at the beginning are fantastic!!!. I love how Annie has become so strong with dealing with what happened to her in the first movie, and due to the trauma, is so longer so sexy and goofy. She's grounded and serious. Her death was heartbreaking. As much as I love the movie the character of Laurie really did annoy me, she turned into a shrieking harridan. I understand she is mentally unstable and naturally she would be a mess, but she's so out of control and hard to feel bad for her. The uncut version is so much better, always watch the uncut versions of all horror movies. With two endings out there, I like the one where Micheal, Laurie and Loomis all die in a circle outside the barn due to stabs/gunshots. Great remake of song "love hurts"
I have a theory that the original ending would’ve had a reveal that all the killings in the movie were Michael really died in the first one and Laurie actually committed all the murders in this one and Michael was just a figment if her imagination. I think that may have been the direction Rob wanted to go but they wouldn’t let him.
That would be great haha
I've finally seen RZ'H2 last night.
Well, I didn't really like it.
I think Zombie's style and esthetics are not my cup of tea.
But I have to say I kind of admire him for daring making it so different than Carpenter's movies.
Annoying Laurie, pricky Loomis, talking huge bum Myers, horses and visions.
Why not?
On the other we have seen most of particular ingridients of his remake sequel before in other horrors, or even Halloweens.
But his style make it a stand out for sure.
Cheers!
I’m glad I finally have some idea of what happened to little Michael, I never understood this, I thought no one else noticed that switch because I never heard RZ say nothing bout it.
Yay...SLASHER SUNDAY!!
As I already stated in Killer Flicks....I LOVE the beginning(The Hospital) and there are bits and pieces sprinkled throughout the movie that I liked.I actually prefer this to his Halloween Remake...Shocking huh?
Thumbs Up Jason😎👍
Not going to lie when this came out I was 12 and it fucking terrified me way more then the original carpenter Halloween
Wow great review. Watched this movie in theaters loved it. And own the DVD watch it every year. Can't wait for October 19th
Hated this film
MovieJohn you’re not alone haha
Oh wow how saaaaaaad
Thank you for not taking the, "motives ruin everything" route. Honestly, I think that's the reason why the slasher genre is looked down on by some, because it just seems like they're nothing more than thoughtless stabathons. So I really appreciate what Zombie did with both his movies.
Horror fans are an interesting lot.
That they are lol
If I ever have some chance to meet Rob Zombie I am going to tell him H2 is his fuckin masterpiece and one of the greatest slashers of all time. People say this one is far fetched, but the ambiguity of it all honors the motivation of the original. For the one and only time we see the inside Michael's mind. Done in a subtle way that can be and apparently is overlooked by most. But people don't like to think too much do they? Haha
It rules
I love Rob’s Halloween films. I would argue that Halloween 2 is better than the first one, regarding Rob’s two. I like the depth that Rob gave Michael and Laurie. It’s not the same absent minded slasher franchise. Loved the white horse bit.
What is the intro music from? Or did you or someone you know produce it? It's fantastic👻👍👻
this movie has grown on me I love it now
31:43 Michael Bay directed that commercial.
I love this movie
I've always loved this movie it's one of my favorites I'm a huge rob zombie fan I love all of his movies
I finally saw this movie a couple days ago. It's definitely not a bad remake IMO. Not a movie I'd buy, but definitely worth a watch. I really like the way Danielle Harris's character matured. She was my favorite character in the movie and it bothered me when she was killed. I guess it's crazy that I never watched it before considering it's almost ten years old. But I just saw Jacobs's Ladder for the first time yesterday and I liked it. It was a lot different than Adrian Lyne's typical movies. I mean when someone says Adrian Lyne I think fatal attraction or nine and a half weeks. Good review Jason, sorry for rambling lol.
Chrisy Turner you aren’t rambling. I like it. I haven’t seen Jacobs ladder in forever
First I respect your opinion and I would never insult you for liking this horrible movie but H2 sucks! This is a prime example of trying to do something crazy different and completely screwing it up in every possible way! The idea for the movie had a good foundation but between the horrible writing and over acting and hating most of the characters this movie fails in every way! Laurie is very unlikable most of the film and it's hard to root for her beyond the first act! Dr. Loomis is an ass and I hate him in the movie for everything he does! Annie frankly is the best character and she's given nothing to do and her death is pointless and makes no sense because Michael would never have known where Sheriff Bracket even lived! Sheriff Bracket is the other strong point of this movie but even though he gives a strong performance again it's because his daughter is killed off in a horrible pointless way so his strong performance is negated by Annie's pointless death! This movie has not grown on most it's still really hated and for good reason, the internet has just allowed the small amount of the horror audience that like this movie to find each other and it's not a large audience! I am in the process of beginning to rewrite the movie when it's finished I will upload the script on RUclips and share it with everyone and I think my version will be far better and liked by most of the horror community!
I will definitely check it out 😀
You certainly made me look at the film a different way. Still not at all my fav but still a new perspective.
Awesome!
If everyone loves this movie I should start watching this thing high then cause I'm missing out lol
Totally agree. The kid from the first movie was totally believable. The second kid Michael sucked ass.
I saw this in theaters also and it was EXCELLENT. I enjoyed the remake but RZs H2 was way better. A brutal, dark, atmospheric, and violent slasher film full of emotionand style. It retains just enough of the Halloween mythos to still be a Halloween film but also a great RZ horror mindfuck. Loomis was an Elseworlds type version and he was supposed to be a bit of an antagonist. Donald will always be Donald but Malcolm did alright for this universe's Loomis.
Love the reviews . Has anyone told you you look like Dave Bautista?
Haha. Never
I love the Rob Zombie Halloween films. IMO, I think the reason his versions get a bad rap is because everyone compares it to John Carpenter’s. If his Halloween films stood by themselves w/out any previous Halloween films, I feel that they’d turn into mainstream classics and most everyone would like them. A little off the subject, I’m stuck in the 70s and 80s when it comes to my music, and that’s why I absolutely love Zombie’s choice of soundtracks. However, he has issues with assigning the proper music with the time period a movie is set in, like in 3 From Hell. The movie takes place 10 years after the Devil’s Rejects, in 1988, but he uses music from an album that was released in 1973 (James Gang). Don’t get me wrong, I love it, but it doesn’t make sense to me honestly. I don’t know, his movies are kind of gritty, so maybe that’s why he does it, as 70s rock, especially Southern rock is rather gritty. That’s just my opinion.
I hate this movie sorry had a good opening then went downhill imo
After watching this review I went back to watch it again I'm not gonna lie when I saw this in the theatre initially the white horse was such a turn of i boycotted a rewatch until 2011 i can now say ive watched this no less then Fifty times now its one of the greatest slashers ever Michael is so vicious and though the white horse and new kid mike is off putting this film far makes up for it in every other aspect. Now we just need a white horseless cut and it would be a perfect film
I'm one of a very few that wanted an Rob Zombie Halloween threequel
Weirdly, I’m supposed to be on a live stream tonight for Drumdums talking about this film
@@sinistercinemareviews5420 that's awesome I would love to tune in for that
That was a sick stream thanks for letting me know about it
Thank you for watching it
I love your reviews and I agree with u this movie is really good as it's different than the original and I might get hate for this but I rather Laurie Strode's actress in this movie than Jamie Lee in Halloween even though I love the original I rather the acting in this movie but I do love Dr Lomis in the original no one can do it better than him he is just too iconic.
Christina Healy I don’t think you’re crazy for that at all
truth this movie was going to have Laurie as killer and Micheal was already dead, and at end of the movie Laurie would be killer and kill Dr Loomis and then flash back would show Micheal/Laurie killing people. but the owner of the series said Micheal has to be the killer. so that was scarped, the ending scene where she shoots down was kept in the movie, do think the movie would have did better if they keep that original ending? also good review u got now sub ^^
the white horse stuff made me think of Twin Peaks when i saw it.
my only real issue with this one is the language its as hard to listen to as Django in places lol, I've written 6 books and i haven't clocked up nearly as much swearing as RZ's halloween 2
Katie Woo fuck yeah! 😉
I have problems with this movie but when i saw it in theaters when it came out i loved it, then a bit went by and didnt like it as much, what is amazing in this film though is Brad Dourif and Tyler Mane
It Just gets better for me
@@sinistercinemareviews5420 every viewing was different for me for a while but now it does get better every time, i think it's because i saw a video of Zombie talking about the ending., Also who's your favorite horror character?
Ever??? Oh god. Who knows?
@@sinistercinemareviews5420 I guess we can narrow it down to just slashers, Hell you're right there's just too many great characters
People are so weird sometimes. As you said they complain if there is a character background given and they rather don't know anything about them. If you show them "The Open House" they will shit all over that movie for not having that. I liked that one a lot and when trying to talk about it everybody calls it shit. I guess it's the same with the RZ versions of "Halloween". I liked them, too. But my taste seems to be weird anyway. Well, I enjoy what I enjoy, what the hell do I care if others can't handle that. ;)
Key-Si Ling loved the open house. That film is a perfect example of how unpleasable genre fans can be
So true. And I don't get the negativity. I watched and had a bast with it. Right the next day I showed it to my wife and she liked it just the same. And often our taste is quite divided. But here we were totally on the same page. And on the www you find haters almost in every review. Lee and you seem to be the exception, haha.
Key-Si Ling I’m always the odd man out
Yeah same here. I grew up with a lot of the old classics but yet I am way more into good remakes. I like a modern feel to movies. Good lighting, good camera work, etc. Most people despise new stuff, but I find it great to go with the times and see how things evolve. Take Halloween for example. I never was much into the entire original series. I like the first one and love it for what it has done for the genre, but I really have a hard time sitting through them. I prefer the RZ versions even though that is solely based on how brutal Michael is portrayed. A Michael like this with the feel of the first one, that would be wow. Like the best of both worlds. But well, gotta see the new one and hope for the best :D
Can someone list the movies from each clip in the intro? I WOULD LOVE THAT. I seem to be unfamiliar with some of these iconic looking kills and would love to give each movie a watch!! @sinistercinemareviews love these videos
I only recognize the Friday the 13th part 4 scene and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 scene and Jason x Scene. The rest I need to figure out
In order of scenes
-Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
-Pieces
-Don’t go in the house
-Friday the 13th Part 4 The Final Chapter
-Pieces (again)
-Motel Hell
-Nightmare Beach AKA Welcome to Spring Break
-Maniac (2012)
-Sleepaway Camp 2 Unhappy Campers
-Slumber Party Massacre 2
-Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (Again)
-Tourist Trap
-The Burning
-Jason X
Sinister Cinema Reviews Thank you very much! Appreciate it. Keep grinding out this great content too! Favorite RUclips channel at the moment.
yung verde you got it buddy
Jw did she shoot him in the head in the original? Confused by how he survived for part2 for how much blood was on her?
Rob was originally going to end it with that Laurie was doing all the killing and Michael was dead the whole time. I would have loved that haha
@@sinistercinemareviews5420 me too i like both movies not my favs out the movies but i enjoy them for certain scene's
I hated that the hospital scene was just a dream Bc it would've made it a whole lot better if it wasn't
Luke Joles I agree but then she would know he was still alive so the entire script would have to change.
You think this new Halloween film gonna be good bc in my opinion I really don't know like I wouldn't be shocked if it's just ok or bad Bc rz era n brand of Michael I really enjoyed
Luke Joles I definitely think they are going to try and capture the feeling of the first which would be a good thing since none of the sequels outside of 2 really did that. The first is tonally my favorite and seeing something more like that would be very welcomed
Yeah more of that suspense is gonna make it pretty scary n I think that's what there going for also but I do like ur input on Rz version
Luke Joles thanks man.
In my opinion this is a shitty Halloween movie but if you change the characters and title it's a solid and brutal horror flick. So many good kills in this, but my god! That scene where he stomps that dudes face by the dumpster is as brutal as it gets and I love it!
do you think you could do the evil dead series
The Cosmic Hamster absolutely
I think this movie works as a stand alone but not as a Halloween film.Its to far removed from the franchise it's the same as Jason goes to hell a good film but not a Friday film.
I can understand a hallowern fan hating rz h2, but I feel the movie gets way too much hate. The directors cut I agree because it's horrible. But the theatrical cut, to me at least, is one of the best Halloween sequels and it's easily the ballsiest one. Everything in the movie makes sense to some degree
Michael has no home, so ofc he's gonna look homeless.
Loomis became a millionaire likely off what happened, so it's likely he's gonna be arrogant to other people because he sees them below him in wealth.
Laurie became mentally scarred from the events of the 2007 one so she isn't going to be that goody 2 shoes friendly happy girl like she was in the first one.
The white horse while annoying and the movie could've done without it, is Michael's point of view and his hallucinations.
Michael wouldn't wear his mask much because, well the police would be looking for a guy in a decerept shatnar mask so he wouldnt wear it.
I think hobo michael looks badass when he had the mask on. The characters may not be hugely likeable, but to me Laurie especially is so damn interesting on how she kept on living. This film is one of my favourite movies and no one's changing my opinion its easily the most unique movie since the first one and from what I've seen people just seem to want the same thing over and over and over. This movie is by a mile the most underrated of the franchise, and hell. Its in the top 3 of halloween movies for me. It just works for me.
So i love the movie and dont mind michael talking at the end, my question is if he could talk why would his choice words be "die"? The only reason i question this is when he shows Laurie the picture in the first film, if he could have said something why didnt he say "brother" or anything to convey to her shes the baby and hes her brother? He didnt/couldn't, but then decides to say die here.. Lol, I love both films but i think the picture scene could have been the prime opportunity for him to choose to say anything :P
If I had to give an in universe reason I would say that Loomis was always the one trying to get him to speak and when he finally does it’s Michael stabbing him to death haha
Sinister Cinema Reviews lmao ill take it 😂
www.blu-ray.com/movies/Halloween-II-Blu-ray/7890/
Explains the grain.
I saw this. Lame. Oh well. Thanks!!
I love house of 1000 corpses for paying homage to everything in horror and being parody but not stupid or boring devils rejects was foul and gritty as hell cant wait for new firefly family entry other that rob zombie is a fake
The movie was not bad
Gotta admit i really didnt like this movie. When i saw it in the cinema it just really annoyed me that he'd put his wife in the movie for no reason with that daft horse stuff. Ive never seen it again cos ive avoided it ever since but ive heard that the directors version is different & loads better so was wondering if this is true? If it is i might give it a 2nd chance. If its basically similar to the theatrical version tho i dont think ill bother.
The movie is still shit. This will never change.
I can’t even watch this movie without getting pissed. It’s that bad smh
I like this movie. but not as good 2007 Halloween
3 dislikes. Boo
4 dislikes to you. Boo you.