Got mine three weeks ago, 300 rounds in it with no issues. No problem hitting the target up to 25 yards with tight groupings. This is third CZ that I own (76BD and P10s) and never felt the triggers were a problem but is the same with my P365 and Cheetah X , somehow I just get used to each trigger and make it work.
0 seconds ago After a couple of years of therapy, the de-cocker and sear assembly are almost not horrifying to me at all....as long as I avert my eyes when I remove the slide.
I learned a hard lesson with a '75 BD Sear Cage- use a Qtip shaft,cut to width to hold the guts in and CAREFULLY cover it with masking tape. MOVE SLOWLY. 6 hours of speaking in Tongues i finally found an excellent MCarbo video. Only those that have fixed a CZ Decocker Sear Cage can understand what we went thru. Nothing fazes me now.
Even the tiniest bit of glass or plastic makes them essentially safe. You would have to be licking the paint to make the radiation dangerous in the slightest.
I like Berettas, BUT...adding an optic is always less optimal than other platforms. As long as the USA is the nation of liability-fearing corportations and Elmer Fudd gun people, you will have to get your triggers worked on...or pay for a custom factory weapon for two to three times the price.
Hold on now, I respect your opinion on the Nocuture . However lets not go backwards and remove the optics cut for a slimline version. We definitely need a P-09s that's sub compact around p-10s size that replaces the Rami. If there was a slimline it should been a 1 1/2 holding at least 14+1. Check with Primary Machine, i believe their threaded barrels work on the nocturne. Also the Mcarbo kit works pretty well on the omega series and is cheaper epically for self install.
I chose the MCarbo kit, took time to polish out tool marks with 4000 grit and dremel polished to a mirror finish. Excellent results! SA is 2.8lbs, DA was 5.2lbs- too light for my taste so put the OEM Hammer spring back, it raised the SA to 3.2, DA to +10lbs. Much safer in my hands. I plan to get the short reset trigger from CGW.
Your right! For the price of a Staccato you can buy two of these with the optics, holster, trigger package plus ammo. And still be ahead. Great content as always, really appreciate you sharing your experience and insights.
i got one and have been carrying it for a month now. great pistol, but some potential issues are random and need to be addressed. when putting on the optic make sure the extractor side screw is not too long. this will cause feed issues. and some are having a problem with the mag hanging open with rounds still in the mag. This is caused by the next round pushing forward and making contact with the slide stop. you can either ride the slide stop with your thumb when shooting to prevent this or get another slide stop, taper the bottom edge with a file, and change the slide stop spring. this is not the case with everyone, but it has happened to some and me as well. I carry it with confidence now and bet my life on it. if you have these issues there is a fix. just my two cents...
@@hunter-in-the-shadows the extractor side screw is a thing with most pistols. I recal with Glocks when I was making slides for them as well. The other...I have not had any magazine issues with any of the various magazines I use.
@@suareztactics I was just putting it out there. There have been a lot of videos about the magazine problem, and it even happened to me a few times. But it's still a pistol I trust my life with. Not everyone is having the issues but they are occurring for some.
@@hunter-in-the-shadowsno....I get it. I will prob do a short video on tbe optics screws. That is always a thing on the extractor side if the optics are close to the extractor. Magazines not so much. I have even been using alot of CZ P01 magazines. Which mags did you have an issue with???
@@suareztactics Play PO9 nocturne I am using the mags that came with it, and I've also got some p7 and P9 mags I've been using with it. But I fixed the problem, and on some of the message boards on Reddit people were talking that it was the same problem PO9's head years ago. It's got a lot to do with some of the rounds kicking forward when it's loading around underneath the round kicking forward and interfering with the slide stop, causing it the lock back with the round still in the mag. It's really not a big deal and it's something that could be easily remedied, but there are a lot of people out there on RUclips and even online that are trying to badmouth but nocturne by saying it's a lemon. There's even a new review out right now where they're calling it straight up garbage and that people should just stick with Glocks, but that's for Glock fan boys. I've been shooting cZ's and CZ variants for years, own multiple CC's including also a couple of Jericho's and a bull Cherokee. I would bet my life on anything that's CZ or CZ based. Including my nocturne, and if people want to split hairs about Stryker fires I got a P10F. The issues with the magazines hanging open with round still in them seems to be hit and miss and not everybody is encountering it. But there does seem to be a growing number of videos that are. But some of them are just CZ haters. I'm not even bringing this up because I am disavowing the CZ nocturne, I'm just pointing out that there are some questions. But if you look into it and anybody looks into it the questions have really easy answers. It's a nothing burger.
@@hunter-in-the-shadows send me those vids on an email. I want to do rebuttals like I did with Hackathorn and red dots. Send to info@suareztactics.com Thanks man!!
What size roller bearing did yours have? And did you disassemble and measure the roller bearing size before you ordered or did you just roll the dice and just go with the most common size I think it's a 220
I get that it is an okay DA/SA pistol, but you seemed satisfied with the SP01. Is there a reason you switched to carrying this one other than testing and evaluation?
I don't get why they don't offer a lanyard loop one can fish out by a hook or under spring tension. Still solid and as long as it isn't on a line it is out of the way. Or just 2 positions for the cross pin to have the choice to store it or have it protruding. Why the cans on those pistols? Home Def.? I hop they don't have that chamber check cut that fouls the rds quickly. They won't touch .45ACP since it got expensive after the 97 model and 10mm, look at Tanfoglio if the current importer is still worth it overseas. Most won't touch it. The wide frame can take it.
I just went to the JM Custom Kydex Holster site and while they likely have a holster that will fit a CZ P-09C nocturne with holosun optic, none of the selections specifically stated for the P-09C nocturne. I shot off an email to them and mention that Gabe Suazez to their site and I will await their ordering instructions. I have purchased a minimalist type holster that I saw elsewhere and after examining it I do not consider it secure. I just got it and have not put it on yet to test it out. On triggers relative to good accuracy on pistols, a decent trigger is about 50% of the issue.
I got the P09 holster cut for optic. Reason is twofold. One is I plan on a P09 F coming in a week or so...second is that I plan to run a threaded barrel in the P09C. In either case...a longer holster tends to leverage the pistol tighter to the body.
Now this is just my .02 cents worth. Nite sites really do not work IF it's pitch black inside your domicile and your intruder is dressed in black and who's shape is hard to define. Think about it.
Which is why for home work I use a PVS14 and suppressor. I can see the dimmed down dot through the nods and the intruders will have no idea I am hunting them in that setting.
What does the P-09 C offer that the P-01 doesn’t? I’ve got a P-07 with CGW internals and it just seems kinda meh compared to my P-01 and P-01 Omega. Don’t get me wrong, the P-07 is a good gun. It’s just not amazing.
I asked this exact question, and from what I gather, the p01 seems to be a nicer piece when cajunized. I think that if you don't own a cz, the p09/p07 is a cheaper option at the cost of quality. I think my next cz will be a 75bd, I want to try a steel frame and larger gun.
If you have a P-01 with CGW stuff you have a good system. But the P-09 feels just as good to me and choosing between the two would not be easy. But that is my opinion. The main advantage of the P-09 is that it comes optics ready. No need to send it out to get milled. As well...I prefer the Omega decocker to the standard CZ decocker, and it is discontinued in all but the 07-09 series. Finally...and I didn't think this would be the case, it feels better in the hand than my P-01 series...and intangible, but it has an effect downrange. Those are my thoughts.
@@Blobertbigly If you have a P-01 with CGW stuff you have a good system. But the P-09 feels just as good to me and choosing between the two would not be easy. But that is my opinion. The main advantage of the P-09 is that it comes optics ready. No need to send it out to get milled. As well...I prefer the Omega decocker to the standard CZ decocker, and it is discontinued in all but the 07-09 series. Finally...and I didn't think this would be the case, it feels better in the hand than my P-01 series...and intangible, but it has an effect downrange. Those are my thoughts.
If you like HKs go for it. 1). In my experience the triggers will never be as good as some other pistols...regardless of what you do to them. 2). Difficult to properly add optics which is a mark of a modern 2024 pistol. Yes...I am well aware of what Langdon is doing but there is more to it than a plate and an optic cut. 3). This is a video on the CZ P-09C, and not the HK30. If someone wants to send me an HK30 I will be happy to shoot some drills with and video my impressions.
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Got mine three weeks ago, 300 rounds in it with no issues. No problem hitting the target up to 25 yards with tight groupings. This is third CZ that I own (76BD and P10s) and never felt the triggers were a problem but is the same with my P365 and Cheetah X , somehow I just get used to each trigger and make it work.
Good info. Some of my most frustrating weekend gunsmithing experiences were with the CZ trigger upgrade. The sear cage of horror.
The sear cage is evident in the decocker models as I understand. Not in the Omegas
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After a couple of years of therapy, the de-cocker and sear assembly are almost not horrifying to me at all....as long as I avert my eyes when I remove the slide.
@@stanpiper8158 what’s the deal with the non-omega triggers being difficult?
I learned a hard lesson with a '75 BD Sear Cage- use a Qtip shaft,cut to width to hold the guts in and CAREFULLY cover it with masking tape.
MOVE SLOWLY.
6 hours of speaking in Tongues i finally found an excellent MCarbo video.
Only those that have fixed a CZ Decocker Sear Cage can understand what we went thru.
Nothing fazes me now.
You’re like a tactical Joe Rogan
@@JoseMaldonado-wx7xh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tritium is a radioactive material and not allowed by most European countries, hence the phosphorescent sights. First thing I change on my Czech CZs.
Even the tiniest bit of glass or plastic makes them essentially safe. You would have to be licking the paint to make the radiation dangerous in the slightest.
@sheeplord4976 Yep. Not sure why they avoid them.
I dream of the day we get good triggers out of the box.
I'm THIS close to getting a Beretta.
I like Berettas, BUT...adding an optic is always less optimal than other platforms. As long as the USA is the nation of liability-fearing corportations and Elmer Fudd gun people, you will have to get your triggers worked on...or pay for a custom factory weapon for two to three times the price.
Walther PDP PRO trigger is phenomenal.
Hold on now, I respect your opinion on the Nocuture . However lets not go backwards and remove the optics cut for a slimline version. We definitely need a P-09s that's sub compact around p-10s size that replaces the Rami. If there was a slimline it should been a 1 1/2 holding at least 14+1. Check with Primary Machine, i believe their threaded barrels work on the nocturne. Also the Mcarbo kit works pretty well on the omega series and is cheaper epically for self install.
I had an mcarbo spring kit and shook trigger on my p07. That was a dream combo
I chose the MCarbo kit, took time to polish out tool marks with 4000 grit and dremel polished to a mirror finish.
Excellent results! SA is 2.8lbs, DA was 5.2lbs- too light for my taste so put the OEM Hammer spring back, it raised the SA to 3.2, DA to +10lbs.
Much safer in my hands.
I plan to get the short reset trigger from CGW.
When you asked for things from CZ how about a parts department that has less than 75% of the parts out of stock?
Your right! For the price of a Staccato you can buy two of these with the optics, holster, trigger package plus ammo. And still be ahead. Great content as always, really appreciate you sharing your experience and insights.
i got one and have been carrying it for a month now. great pistol, but some potential issues are random and need to be addressed. when putting on the optic make sure the extractor side screw is not too long. this will cause feed issues. and some are having a problem with the mag hanging open with rounds still in the mag. This is caused by the next round pushing forward and making contact with the slide stop. you can either ride the slide stop with your thumb when shooting to prevent this or get another slide stop, taper the bottom edge with a file, and change the slide stop spring.
this is not the case with everyone, but it has happened to some and me as well. I carry it with confidence now and bet my life on it. if you have these issues there is a fix. just my two cents...
@@hunter-in-the-shadows the extractor side screw is a thing with most pistols. I recal with Glocks when I was making slides for them as well.
The other...I have not had any magazine issues with any of the various magazines I use.
@@suareztactics I was just putting it out there. There have been a lot of videos about the magazine problem, and it even happened to me a few times. But it's still a pistol I trust my life with. Not everyone is having the issues but they are occurring for some.
@@hunter-in-the-shadowsno....I get it. I will prob do a short video on tbe optics screws. That is always a thing on the extractor side if the optics are close to the extractor.
Magazines not so much. I have even been using alot of CZ P01 magazines.
Which mags did you have an issue with???
@@suareztactics Play PO9 nocturne I am using the mags that came with it, and I've also got some p7 and P9 mags I've been using with it. But I fixed the problem, and on some of the message boards on Reddit people were talking that it was the same problem PO9's head years ago. It's got a lot to do with some of the rounds kicking forward when it's loading around underneath the round kicking forward and interfering with the slide stop, causing it the lock back with the round still in the mag. It's really not a big deal and it's something that could be easily remedied, but there are a lot of people out there on RUclips and even online that are trying to badmouth but nocturne by saying it's a lemon. There's even a new review out right now where they're calling it straight up garbage and that people should just stick with Glocks, but that's for Glock fan boys. I've been shooting cZ's and CZ variants for years, own multiple CC's including also a couple of Jericho's and a bull Cherokee. I would bet my life on anything that's CZ or CZ based. Including my nocturne, and if people want to split hairs about Stryker fires I got a P10F. The issues with the magazines hanging open with round still in them seems to be hit and miss and not everybody is encountering it. But there does seem to be a growing number of videos that are. But some of them are just CZ haters. I'm not even bringing this up because I am disavowing the CZ nocturne, I'm just pointing out that there are some questions. But if you look into it and anybody looks into it the questions have really easy answers. It's a nothing burger.
@@hunter-in-the-shadows send me those vids on an email. I want to do rebuttals like I did with Hackathorn and red dots. Send to info@suareztactics.com
Thanks man!!
CZ European website lists the CZ P-09 C Nocturne SR with a threaded 115mm barrel. 1/2” × 28 UNEF - 3A
I've been saying the same damn thing for years!! I told my wife it was cheaper to buy trigger kits!! Yuup
CZ P-09 Nocturne SR is ready for suppressors
Just a little help, when showing the trigger we want to see the trigger not your finger. Thanks for the vid. I am considering this or another p10c
A trigger is a trigger is a trigger...what it looks like it irrelevant...what it feels like is everything...and that can only be conveyed with words.
What size roller bearing did yours have? And did you disassemble and measure the roller bearing size before you ordered or did you just roll the dice and just go with the most common size I think it's a 220
I called them and asked. After discussing we agreed on the 220. The 220 tends to provide smoother DA pulls
@@suareztactics thanks 👍
Primary machine in Louisiana probably has threaded barrels for the 07 or nocturn
Nope. Perpetually out of stock,
@suareztactics I'm looking at them right now czp07 po9 C Nocturne match grade threaded barrel 264.99$.. black , gold , or gun metal grey.
@suareztactics also I have a threaded P09 barrel I bought from them several years ago. Search threaded barrel instead of cz parts
@@jeffbradley5723 I was looking at em too. OUT OF STOCK
@suareztactics bruh , in stock 07 09c nocturn slide your mouse down one more row. Lol
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All you have to do is thumb the hammer. That's why God put it there.
Yes, deep conceal .380 or maybe 9mm
Agree Tony (JM Custom) makes the best holsters
I get that it is an okay DA/SA pistol, but you seemed satisfied with the SP01.
Is there a reason you switched to carrying this one other than testing and evaluation?
@@echo_research_and_development I still carry the SP01
what optic is that you have?
@@absmith17148 Holosun EPS
Thought so.. looks bigger than the eps carry
I don't get why they don't offer a lanyard loop one can fish out by a hook or under spring tension. Still solid and as long as it isn't on a line it is out of the way. Or just 2 positions for the cross pin to have the choice to store it or have it protruding.
Why the cans on those pistols? Home Def.?
I hop they don't have that chamber check cut that fouls the rds quickly.
They won't touch .45ACP since it got expensive after the 97 model and 10mm, look at Tanfoglio if the current importer is still worth it overseas. Most won't touch it. The wide frame can take it.
I just went to the JM Custom Kydex Holster site and while they likely have a holster that will fit a CZ P-09C nocturne with holosun optic, none of the selections specifically stated for the P-09C nocturne. I shot off an email to them and mention that Gabe Suazez to their site and I will await their ordering instructions.
I have purchased a minimalist type holster that I saw elsewhere and after examining it I do not consider it secure. I just got it and have not put it on yet to test it out.
On triggers relative to good accuracy on pistols, a decent trigger is about 50% of the issue.
I got the P09 holster cut for optic. Reason is twofold. One is I plan on a P09 F coming in a week or so...second is that I plan to run a threaded barrel in the P09C. In either case...a longer holster tends to leverage the pistol tighter to the body.
@@suareztactics I just ordered the P-07 holster with the red dot cut.
Now this is just my .02 cents worth. Nite sites really do not work IF it's pitch black inside your domicile and your intruder is dressed in black and who's shape is hard to define. Think about it.
Which is why for home work I use a PVS14 and suppressor. I can see the dimmed down dot through the nods and the intruders will have no idea I am hunting them in that setting.
Way back i bought your infidel t shirt, need another any plans on bringing them back? Great info as always on weapons n tactics..
Probably not. I sold the store and don't think I want to get into shipping and retail again at my age...LOL
What does the P-09 C offer that the P-01 doesn’t? I’ve got a P-07 with CGW internals and it just seems kinda meh compared to my P-01 and P-01 Omega. Don’t get me wrong, the P-07 is a good gun. It’s just not amazing.
I asked this exact question, and from what I gather, the p01 seems to be a nicer piece when cajunized. I think that if you don't own a cz, the p09/p07 is a cheaper option at the cost of quality.
I think my next cz will be a 75bd, I want to try a steel frame and larger gun.
If you have a P-01 with CGW stuff you have a good system. But the P-09 feels just as good to me and choosing between the two would not be easy. But that is my opinion. The main advantage of the P-09 is that it comes optics ready. No need to send it out to get milled. As well...I prefer the Omega decocker to the standard CZ decocker, and it is discontinued in all but the 07-09 series. Finally...and I didn't think this would be the case, it feels better in the hand than my P-01 series...and intangible, but it has an effect downrange. Those are my thoughts.
@@Blobertbigly If you have a P-01 with CGW stuff you have a good system. But the P-09 feels just as good to me and choosing between the two would not be easy. But that is my opinion. The main advantage of the P-09 is that it comes optics ready. No need to send it out to get milled. As well...I prefer the Omega decocker to the standard CZ decocker, and it is discontinued in all but the 07-09 series. Finally...and I didn't think this would be the case, it feels better in the hand than my P-01 series...and intangible, but it has an effect downrange. Those are my thoughts.
My P-01 is the best most reliable smoothest pistol I own or have ever shot
It's cheaper and comes cut for a rds. Being polymer many people like the recoil better, also the grip fits many peoples support hand better.
No CZ 75 ? 🤔
As is evidenced by the title...THIS video is about the P09C Nocturne...not the 75.
10mm please please please. I would love this gun in 10mm
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They make threaded barrels for the p07 / p09
And yet....out of stock since I remember. If you know a place that has them, let me know.
👍👍
How about the hk p30
If you like HKs go for it. 1). In my experience the triggers will never be as good as some other pistols...regardless of what you do to them. 2). Difficult to properly add optics which is a mark of a modern 2024 pistol. Yes...I am well aware of what Langdon is doing but there is more to it than a plate and an optic cut. 3). This is a video on the CZ P-09C, and not the HK30. If someone wants to send me an HK30 I will be happy to shoot some drills with and video my impressions.
Have an updated video showing a reliability test using 200 rounds of hollow points if anyone is interested ruclips.net/video/JJ_1bY6bAIk/видео.htmlsi=rDxbj8PSt_VMxLjT