Arlindo Nascimento well I mean to him it seemed beneficial for a sith to consider his apprentice equal because then jealousy won't consume the apprentice like it did with the ancient jedi which led to thier downfall, inner civil war.
I think rather than naive, he was way too much rational. After all he is coming from a race known as bankers and he thought as long as Palpatine gained something from him he would not object his tenets. On the other hand though, in reality, paply had one super uber hyper gigantically big ego.
The Rule of Two remained useful for Sidious; Vader was a menace outside of the chain of command, with practically no repercussions for whatever he did. He terrorized both the Imperials and the enemy, whoever that might be at one point or another. Everyone who knew that Vader answered exclusively to the Emperor had to wonder just why he remained loyal to that old man. Moreover, Vader was the public face of the Empire and a target for anger and hate while Sidious hid in the shadows. While Sidious did not plan to be ever replaced as Sith master, he always needed an apprentice as his lackey. Might have helped if he hadn't ultimately forsaken the succession part of the RoT. With how powerful Sidious was, finding a proper successor was difficult though.
ToxicDubZ I remember that the possibility of Vader getting a new suit is mentioned in the Death Star novel, but it's not something driven by Palpatine if I remember correctly. And of Palpatine wanting that final battle I never even heard.
TocixDubZ The reason that Vader didn't get a new suit in the end is that it was too dangerous. He could have died just from changing suits. Again, Palpatine had nothing to do with it not happening, not from what I remember.
Also we don't know exactly what Sidious's end game was in new canon. In legends, it's clear enough that he never intended to be succeeded as he was immortal. It's implied that his ambitions don't end there, but the next stage would've been to become some sort of new life form possibly. The comic itself only makes vague implications that Palpatine intended to from new empire that would be governed with dark side directly, meaning that he intended to maybe achieve some sort of omnipresence. Palpatine himself doesn't really give any clues either. "I live as energy. I AM the dark side!" As for new canon comics, Palpatine's views of rule of two are mixed. He seems to keep lip-service to it by training several force sensitives such as inquisitors, but his justification to this is that since they're more like Dark Jedi and not Sith, he isn't really breaking the tradition. Then again, he also contemplated that maybe Vader should be replaced by non-force sensitive and took steps to make it happen. When Vader called him out of this violation, Sidious deflected this by saying that "everything is of the force." Later he reasserted this that his choice of non-force sensitive servants to achieve his goals was the correct one, that he had "learned from the mistakes of the old masters" implying that he saw Bane's rule useful for it's own time, but now redundant. Ofc, he could've also meant the ancient Sith, though I personally think that by old masters he meant his predecessors.
"For thinking this was a good choice for an equal partnerrrrrr" .....I usually have these videos on in the background while I work, this cracked me up so hard I had to stop to like and comment.
Technically speaking, Palpatine did develop a 'Rule of One' in which he saw himself as the only Sith. This is noted in Book of Sith. However, this is really a cheap subversion as he still kept the Rule of Two in order. Perhaps this is why after Vader's death he abandoned the Darth title and had many apprentices, but none were Sith lords.
@@Auron181 maul after his defeat at obi wan's hand wasn't considered anymore a sith of the bane line and the inquisitors weren't sith at all, but only inferior dark side adapts, expandable servants to the emperor, not meant to be successors or or even his right hands. Vader on the other side, was true and only sith apprentice. this info was already established in Legends before Disney and kept in the new canon.
@@SpecForceMarine in the clone wars he recognizes maul as a sith trying to oppose him. I feel we are arguing sematics though cause from my understanding maul wasn't trained in everything a true Sith lord should have gotten. Hes essentially just a sith assassin however, dont discredit the guy he did survive what should of been a mortal wound using a sith ability. If not for him looking for recruits all sith teaching would have ended with sidious but maul was training people he was looking for an apprentice. Reference starwars Rebels and The Solo movie.
@@SpecForceMarine also i dont completely agree with this. Its not about what sidious feels is possible to replace him. Bane didnt view any of the other Sith as powerful like how this mythical revan was. Using this argument the sith at the time of banes life besides bane himself would not be sith. 2. Sith in EU is a red skinned race that doesnt exist anymore. 3. Anyone following old sith teachings from holocrons are following sith teaching which maul definitely got ahold of in rebels. Which definitely makes him a sith. Just cause sidious is a strong entity doesnt mean these others are not sith but it is kind of like a sith acolyte vs a true bonafide Sith inquisitor styled Master.
Only two there are. Sidious and his apprentice Maul...no wait and Tyranus. No wait Tyranus apprentice too, Ventress...and savage oppress too?(who is the apprentice of the apprentice of the apprentice?)
Well he thought Maul was dead, and went to take care of Maul and Savage when he found out. Also, Ventress was like an inquisitor. As soon as she started to outgrow that level of power, Sidious made Dooku take her out.
You realize palpatine was still an apprentice when he would of had maul. Braking rule of two his entire carreer. His honor guard and inquisition all show this
Is dooku really converted though i mean he seemed pretty honest to obiwan in clone wars episode 2 about sidious. His eyes never even taint. On top of that just going to point out master apprentice lineage. Yoda
Also he leaves maul when killing savage opress most likely cause hes not sure who is actually stronger between maul and vader. Maul definitely was given the chance to kill vader snd take his spot back.
The Darth Bane books were so good. I've read probably a total of 25 (of the well over 100) books and ever time I read one, I'm like, they gotta make a movie out of this! I mean if they made 1 movie per year of every book there would be over 100 years worth of movies. That's job security for Disney for the next century!
When he was killing Plagueis he stated that he never thought of him as Master. Only himself and that he kept him alive for so long. To get the secrets of immortality from him.
John Porteous not really, think of it like this, if you've got someone constantly at your heels that will attack once you fail you'll want to become more powerful to dissuade any thoughts of attacking. The rule of two forced the master to become stronger while also giving the apprentice an example of the power they crave, without it the master would stagnate and become weak.
And it was ultimately self destructive, as each master knew enough to keep secrets from the apprentice which would go to do the same and more and more knowledge ended up going missing Look at the shitfest that is Sidious' apprentices starting with Maul, each one trying to get their own apprentices, each weaker and more poorly trained than the last ending up in the same power vacuum that Bane attempted to end
Truth is that selfishness can only take you so far. The 1000 years of Sith knowledge culminating in Sidious (if you assume any dark lord as evil as Sidious before him) are improbable.
The Rule of Two was social darwinism. Palpatine in ROTS. "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us". For Sidious, the power of the Dark Side was more important to him than himself. If anyone could surpass Palpatine in the Dark Side, he would ultimately be really satisfied.
Anakin WAS more powerful than Yoda OR Sidious by ROTS, He lost 40% of his power level after his injuries and was STILL 80-90% the strength of Yoda and Sidious, And that comes directly from the man who WROTE IT all. Anakin was the most powerful force sensitive of all time by ROTS and the end of the war, That's been stated and confirmed over and over again in multiple places. Read the ROTS film novelization, Mace Windu admits straight up to Obi-Wan that Anakin was his superior and "arguably the most powerful Jedi in existence" , And that only HE was strong enough to stop a Star destroyer burning through the atmosphere with the force, as he did with the invisible hand. Which was what mace was referring to. Or, just read Dark Lord: the rise of Darth Vader, "Anakin Skywalker was once the most powerful Jedi Ever known to the order, but now he is but a disciple of the dark side, a lord of the dreaded Sith" , And on Mortis, the father states plain as day "the True Chosen one is the only being strong enough to control my children, now you see who you truly are" , And ALL of that is canon content, But even so, Lords of the Sith is a novel that came out after Disney took over, and it speaks about more of the same, stating how Anakin was the most powerful of all. Like I said, He was already much stronger than Sidious or Yoda either one by ROTS and the end of the war, Sidious knew that too, it was the whole reason he had to make sure Anakin felt as if he NEEDED him, so he would not just kill him. Yoda wanted Anakin to be the one to go and confront Sidious in the first place, but Mace messed it all up.
Daz Davis no no no no you don’t seem to understand the difference between potential and power the quote you gave of sid shows exactly the power of Skywalker. “Darth Vader WILL become more powerful than either of us” NOT Darth Vader IS more powerful that either of us.
Tielman Roos Lmao. And YOU don’t seem to understand Star Wars at ALL. Listen to Lucas you idiot.... Darth Vader lost nearly 40% of his power level after his injuries on Mustafar and yet was STILL 80-90% the strength of Yoda and Sidious. He was ALREADY 120-130% their power level you moron. Anakin Skywalker by ROTS was thee most powerful force sensitive ever known. Period. That’s is canonical FACT. Read the film novelization, and it’s sequel. It states it as clear as clear is possible. “He was the most powerful Jedi EVER KNOWN to the Jedi order, and now he is a disciple of the darkside, a lord of the dreaded Sith, and avenging right hand of the galaxy’s ruthless new emperor” , I can go on and on with fact and the source to find it in dude.. You don’t have a single clue what you’re talkin about. You’ve proven that. He was 23 almost 24 years old and in the beginning of his prime by ROTS, AND a hardened war veteran that had already trained his OWN apprentice into a little beast herself. Again in the ROTS film novelization, Mace Windu literally admitted to Obi-Wan than Anakin was his superior, and arguably the strongest Jedi in existence.... and Dooku said himself that his power literally scared him in that he could feel him growing stronger and stronger and stronger as the battle rages on.. That he was the most dominant saber duelist that HE had ever known, and Dooku was KNOWN himself to be thee best duelist of the Jedi order second only to Yoda before he left it. He used to beat Mace Windu all the time again before he left the order. Mace was literally afraid of him. And yet Anakin flattened him in one minute flat. This is not a debate dude, stop trying. You know nothing. Go read a thing or 2, or just watch the film, listen to Lucas like I said, or watch TCW... He was the Only being in existence powerful enough to control the literal Gods of the Force itself. Could Yoda do that? NO. Could Sidious do that? NOO.. ONLY Anakin Skywalker. And that is a FACT that cannot be argued. The Father told him outright, “only the chosen one is strong enough to control both of my children, now you see who you truly are....” , like I said. It’s not a debate dude. Stop trying. Skywalker was the strongest force sensitive ever known by ROTS. That is Fact, proven in sooo many different sources, and by Lucas himself. Which trumps literally everything else at all. No matter WHAT anybody tries to say. Period..... ESPECIALLY not some random moron on RUclips that doesn’t know anything about it to begin with.
The Rule of Two was not built for ruling galaxy. Destroying the Jedi in secret and plain sight, yes, but not after that has been accomplished. The Rule of Two ultimately led to the destruction of the Sith and the Galactic Empire.
Spoilers. Lol u sure about that you clearly havent seen solo the whole point of that movie is to fix two things one. Sith line continued maul had apprentices and two why wasnt solo identified without his helm on the death star. Answer he is an ex storm trooper.
So what happens if both Sith lords are killed before an apprentice can be trained, such as if they both happened to be on a ship when it was destroyed, or the the Jedi discovered them both and killed them? Is there a fail-safe to ensure he survival of the Order, or do the Sith go extinct right there?
Doesn't really seem like an apt comparison. If you kill every human at once, then we'd go extinct, but the Sith ideology can potentially be passed down through recordings and holocrons, but that'd be hard to manage after death. For an ideology meant to preserve the Sith, it just seems like like it came with a pretty huge flaw.
Replying to a 5-year-old comment, but: I'd imagine that the Sith would _temporarily_ go extinct. Force-Sensitives with a bad side will never truly go away, so it's inevitable some would fall to the Dark Side. They might not be true Sith, but I reason it would essentially be a cold restart of the Sith Order. If for whatever reason all the Sith knowledge was destroyed or just kept hidden from Dark Side practioniers, the Sith would still rise. It would just be very slow and probably mirror how the Sith Order started in the first place, as Dark Jedi relearn all the aspects of the Dark Side and begin to re-master it.
Sidious was right the purporse of the rule of two was the destruction of the jedi and the galactic republic, and he did it the republic become an empire and the jedi were all but destroyed. Now Sidious could ruled supreme as lord and master of the galaxy and he would train force sensitives to serve him and his empire, and of course hunt the remaining jedi. That was the purpose of the inquisitors, the emperor`s hand, the adepts of the dark side among others organizations under the empire. officially there was only him and Vader as his apprentice,shadow hand, supreme commander of the imperial forces the others were so loyal that never once an emperor minion betrayed him, because they were trained in the ways of the sith fight but not in the sith ideologies.
Palpatine really gave him a verbal lashing as he killed plagueis , adding that he was arrogant to think he'd be above the rule of two and that he wouldn't fall to it, and selfish in that he became obsessed with his own immortality, leaving Sidious to carry forth the grand plan of destroying the jedi and ruling the galaxy.
I think Sidious philosophy captures the nature of the Sith well, they value power above everything especially power for themselves, Palpatine did not want to share his power so he disregarded the rule of two
I think originally Sidious had every intention of fallowing the rule of two before Vader was defeated. “Lord Vader will become more powerful than either of us” he knew Vader would kill him but the legacy would of been fulfilled. But with Vader’s potential cut down he changed his plans.
I mean he killed Savage Oppress and said that this was the first rule of the sith as his reason so yeah I think it's safe to say he held this in high regard.
Jan Gustl_WT be defensive they will have to come for us also launch rockets on the hangars we cnnot afford it that they have fghrer support gather vader super star destroyer or my eclipse cuzz that can take out snoke’s ship in one shot then we blast them to bits with grand admiral trawn
Either way Sideous never intended to share power he hoped to become immortal and if he would've fully achieved that I'm sure he would've used Vader's weakness of suit and eliminate Vader and be content to rule himself
Clint Myers my guess is Zannah, she was apprenticed to Bane as a small girl and didn't challenge him for atleast 20 years. I'm not too sure thus answering wasn't really answering... from a certain point of view.... whatsa me asayin.... shoot me already
Yeah, I can't stand those people who conclude that Sidious wanted to do away with the Rule of Two and train thousands of Sith. I have no idea how they could have come to such a conclusion. All evidence points to the fact that Sidious believed very strongly in the Rule of Two. However, he believed in the Rule of Two and only the next best thing, a placeholder to the end goal of any true Sith: a Rule of One, where the perfect Sith has achieved immortality and needs no one else. Sidious was on the verge of achieving this through his clones, though I suspect that they, too, were also placeholders for when he would discover how to keep himself truly immortal.
Sidious was weak. Short sighted. He embraced the Rule of Two in theory, but never fully in practice because he never thought he would lose power. I will finish what my Grandfather started. I will become the most powerful being to ever have ruled the galaxy. My power is only beginning to be realized.
Hmmm, interesting notion. I do wonder though. For a non Sith you do dabble a fair deal with their teachings. Killing dear ones to prove thy self to the dark side, killing thy master when they outlive their usefulness. And by what you state, I feel as if you expect to be overthrown yourself. Would you be content with one stronger taking your place as you did snokes? Or shall you succeed where sidious failed and rule forever?
Yes, Darth Ren strike down your true enemy....Micky Mouse. Only then will you truly rule the galaxy and your journey to the dark side will be complete.
Let's be honest, Sidious wanted to run the Empire as one forever. He was probably trying to find a way to become more powerful and deage, so he could take out Vader. He probably had Vader's suit ready all along, knowing he'd get burned on Mustafar. He didn't want Anakin because of his power. Sidious wanted to lessen Anakin's power and use him as a cyborg slave.
The rule of two is the only way the Sith could have remained in control of the galaxy. It was the only doctrine that used the dark side of the force to its fullest potential. It ensured that whoever was in control of the Galaxy was at least as powerful as, in fact more powerful than, the previous leader. Darth Plagueis wanted to replace jealousy with trust, which was a betrayal of the dark side. He also wanted to replace the cycle of increasing the power of the Sith with each leader, with two Immortal leaders working in tandem to make each other as powerful as possible. This would have worked if Darth Plagueis had picked an apprentice who agreed with his philosophy. But, as we see in the novel, Darth Sidious never had the intention of ever sharing power with him.
Plagueis was doing the same thing as the Brotherhood of Darkness was doing, it didn’t work then and it wouldn’t work now. These two ruined the Sith Order!
yeah because Vitiate was very "successful" destroying the Jedi and Republic with his army of sith and both his empires didn't completely fall apart due to infighting and Power grabs? While Sidious had only one Sith apprentice who singles handily Created a war with both sides are controlled by the sith, brought down the entire republic Created an Empire that completely dominated the Entire Galaxy and complete destruction of Enitre Jedi Order with Luke being the last Jedi in the galaxy by the time of ROTJ.
You are right about Sidious destroying the Jedi order and the Republic compared to Vitiate , I agree Sidious was more successful in Vitiate in that regard. Honestly don't think Vitiate later to be Valkorion wanted to truly destroy the Republic he just wanted to cause all of that death and destruction to power that ritual he did to keep himself alive and he wanted people to rule over. He manipulated the Mandalorions to send them to war in the Mandalorian Wars he dominated Revan and Malak to his will and have them star the Jedi Civil War. Then there was the Great Galactic War and the Cold War, then towards the end of it he destroyed all life on Ziost when he returned to the Eternal Empire his second Empire that was even more powerful than his previous Sith Empire and the Republic combined defeating both of them but not wiping out the Jedi or Sith entirely. He was over 1400 years old that is some long term planning. That being said like I said before do agree with you that Sidious was definitely more successful in destroying the Jedi and did it in a much short timer.
and like I said both his empires fell apart with him being killed and overthrown and his long-term planning completely fell apart he spent 1000 years of planning to capture only half the Galaxy before losing it not to mention Revan influenced and manipulated his mind to make a peace treaty with the republic and then everything went downhill from there. sith empire started to crumble with sith infighting among themselves during TOR and his family (son and daughter) seized the Eternal Empire from him which also caused more infighting with his second empire and he was gone for good. he was not close to achieving immortality then all of his sith Predecessors even Darth plagueis mention him in more casual dismissive as ancient sith lord who failed to achieve immortality. He didn't manipulate the Mandalorians.The Mandalorians already were building their armies and wanted to go war with Republic after the fallen Sith Lord Exar Kun defeat with Republic. Mandalore the Ultimate was war veteran in Exar kun war and the Mandalorian wars was going to happen either way. The sith empire only promised to back the Mandalorians if they started losing the war which they didn't fulfill their promise and Mandalore told Revan of Sith Empire involvement. Vitiate achievements was dwarfed by Darth Ruin's Sith Empire which was more powerful and ruled the galaxy for 1000 years before its downfall. The whole Valkorion characterization is horrible re-written of the Character due Bioware writers turned 180 degrees with a character I honestly don't care about Vitiate motives because his motives and goals change when it suits the writers and makes him very inconsistent character.
Well, that would ultimately depend on the Sith Order in question and their methodology. If the Sith Order was like the Brotherhood of Darkness, then it would still self-destruct. But if the Sith Order adopted the mindset of Sith like Darth Marr and Lana Beniko, then the Sith would actually stand a chance of conquering the galaxy.
if only sidious actually followed the rule of two his apprentice would have became probably the strongest being in the entire galaxy, but unfortunately he was too prideful from what I understood.
Sidious made one crucial mistake, he stopped the rule of two with himself. He should have found an apprentice and poured his knowledge into him, allowing for an even more powerful successor. Had the rule of two remained true, the sith would have won.
untrue he basterdized the teachings of bane by only doing the rule of one one eternal being to rule all vader is just a puppet and a weakend one when he became a cyborg one that cannot destroy sidious but only submit to him and anyone that would try to join him are not official sith or his apprentice just mear puppets
Alright I just discovered this channel and absolutely love the content but, and please take this in the spirit in which it is meant, it's "tenets" not "tenents". Please :)
Millie Mccarver dark side acolytes. Much like assuage ventress, savage opress, and pretty much what grievous or DURGe would be if they were force sensitive. Not true apprentices but mere soldiers and tools to be used to serve the sith lord rather than the minion as well. A dark side acolyte would usually be more focused on Lightsaber combat (much like the inquisitors who's lightsabers are basically Sci fi Swiss Army knives) and simple force powers than truly powerful and dangerous abilities the dark side could offer like Sith alchemy, force drain,or even force lightning.
Greater Grievobeast 55 They also serve as potential appreatices for either the master or the appreatice after they take the rule. Assuming of course they succeed or gain enough favor.
Having only two is risky. Never thought about it that way. My problem with the rule was if the apprentice tried and failed to overthrow the master, all those years invested in training would be lost. By the time a new apprentice was fully trained, the master would likely be old and easily beatable, which undermines the whole idea of each generation being more powerful than the last.
I don't know. If I remember correctly (and I may have to go back and re-read the Bane trilogy__it's been a while), he made it clear to Zannah that when she made her move, either he dies or she does. If you remember the story, Bane was losing faith in his apprentice because she was so hesitant to attack. Why? Because she knew how powerful the Sith Lord was, and that if she lost__there would be no do-overs.
zulubro If the apprentice tries and fails then the apprentice was too weak. old age? a solution to that problem was in the third of the darth bane trilogy.
Bane built the rule of two because the Sith of his time were weak and foolish. Everyone that served the dark side of the Force, called themselves Sith. Even if they were weak in the Force. Weak Sith lords would team up and bring down powerful Sith lords. Bane believed that the Sith had been water down. And he was right.
You know there is a focus on many alien races and other species but why? I have counted on one hand 3 black characters ( Mace Windu, Lando and Finn) in the massive Star Wars Universe. Besides the most recent introduction of Rose, Baze and Chirrut why is there no latin characters? Why has there been a gender shift in the franchise, now anytime Star Wars is mentioned you will most likely now see references a female lead. Why is there a lack of diversity within the Star Wars universe?
Wait you forgot saw guerrra? Or the fact that I'm pretty sure Poe is Latino? In any case If your implying this has much of anything to due with racism than I doubt it, at least not with Star Wars itself. To be blunt there's just a lot more notable white actors in Hollywood then there are a lot of the other races. I mean yeah they could go through the effort of adding more diversity in their but from the new trilogy it looks like there already at it! I'm sure things will get even more diverse in the future, but I'm just not hoping their siding with diversity over talent. In any case in lore human race doesn't seem to be an issue even within the empire, kinda insignificant when there are countless different kinds of sentient life, if anything I want to see aliens be introduced more into the main cast than I do anything else.
How about you stop complaining. We do not need diversity in every single aspect of Our Lives. Not to mention the new Star Wars movies are completely filled with diversity.
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It seems that sideous actually held bane in pretty high esteem
for a Sith Plagueis was a bit naive i mean palpy does not like to share his toys or his powers
Arlindo Nascimento well I mean to him it seemed beneficial for a sith to consider his apprentice equal because then jealousy won't consume the apprentice like it did with the ancient jedi which led to thier downfall, inner civil war.
i suppose you are right
I think rather than naive, he was way too much rational. After all he is coming from a race known as bankers and he thought as long as Palpatine gained something from him he would not object his tenets. On the other hand though, in reality, paply had one super uber hyper gigantically big ego.
True...Palps came from a wealthy family. It's never mentioned/shown of them sharing their wealth with the locals
Thats why sith lost at Palpatine, he left no successor. He tried to create a rule of one, and the sith empire crumbled after his death.
Sidious was like " forget the rule of two... I AM THE SENATE!!!" - Sidious then doing his signature laugh.
then a master windu walks in and told me I’m not so I came back with UNLIMITED POWER
*i am the rule of 2
Rule of 2 finished him in the end. His apprentice killed him
Good. Good.
"For thinking this was a good choice for an equal partner."
Too true. Never partner up with the Senate.
Raghuvar Vasudev I chuckled on that part, as how absurd it was
nice, more of Bane
same here, plz make more bane vids
The Rule of Two remained useful for Sidious; Vader was a menace outside of the chain of command, with practically no repercussions for whatever he did. He terrorized both the Imperials and the enemy, whoever that might be at one point or another. Everyone who knew that Vader answered exclusively to the Emperor had to wonder just why he remained loyal to that old man. Moreover, Vader was the public face of the Empire and a target for anger and hate while Sidious hid in the shadows. While Sidious did not plan to be ever replaced as Sith master, he always needed an apprentice as his lackey. Might have helped if he hadn't ultimately forsaken the succession part of the RoT. With how powerful Sidious was, finding a proper successor was difficult though.
Didn't he propose the new Vader suit so that they can have a proper final battle leading to Vader taking the throne?
ToxicDubZ I remember that the possibility of Vader getting a new suit is mentioned in the Death Star novel, but it's not something driven by Palpatine if I remember correctly. And of Palpatine wanting that final battle I never even heard.
ImperialistOpinions well if he allowed the new suit he would have to anticipate a confrontation
TocixDubZ The reason that Vader didn't get a new suit in the end is that it was too dangerous. He could have died just from changing suits. Again, Palpatine had nothing to do with it not happening, not from what I remember.
Also we don't know exactly what Sidious's end game was in new canon. In legends, it's clear enough that he never intended to be succeeded as he was immortal. It's implied that his ambitions don't end there, but the next stage would've been to become some sort of new life form possibly. The comic itself only makes vague implications that Palpatine intended to from new empire that would be governed with dark side directly, meaning that he intended to maybe achieve some sort of omnipresence. Palpatine himself doesn't really give any clues either. "I live as energy. I AM the dark side!"
As for new canon comics, Palpatine's views of rule of two are mixed. He seems to keep lip-service to it by training several force sensitives such as inquisitors, but his justification to this is that since they're more like Dark Jedi and not Sith, he isn't really breaking the tradition. Then again, he also contemplated that maybe Vader should be replaced by non-force sensitive and took steps to make it happen. When Vader called him out of this violation, Sidious deflected this by saying that "everything is of the force." Later he reasserted this that his choice of non-force sensitive servants to achieve his goals was the correct one, that he had "learned from the mistakes of the old masters" implying that he saw Bane's rule useful for it's own time, but now redundant.
Ofc, he could've also meant the ancient Sith, though I personally think that by old masters he meant his predecessors.
"For thinking this was a good choice for an equal partnerrrrrr" .....I usually have these videos on in the background while I work, this cracked me up so hard I had to stop to like and comment.
Technically speaking, Palpatine did develop a 'Rule of One' in which he saw himself as the only Sith. This is noted in Book of Sith. However, this is really a cheap subversion as he still kept the Rule of Two in order. Perhaps this is why after Vader's death he abandoned the Darth title and had many apprentices, but none were Sith lords.
Oppo Rancisis No. it is not “noted in the book of Sith”
What’s noted is that Darth Krayt created the “rule of 1” , or the 1 Sith Empire. Not Palpatine
No he didnt. Maul is a direct brake of rule of two also wtf his guard the inquisition you dont know cannon at all.
@@Auron181 maul after his defeat at obi wan's hand wasn't considered anymore a sith of the bane line and the inquisitors weren't sith at all, but only inferior dark side adapts, expandable servants to the emperor, not meant to be successors or or even his right hands. Vader on the other side, was true and only sith apprentice.
this info was already established in Legends before Disney and kept in the new canon.
@@SpecForceMarine in the clone wars he recognizes maul as a sith trying to oppose him. I feel we are arguing sematics though cause from my understanding maul wasn't trained in everything a true Sith lord should have gotten. Hes essentially just a sith assassin however, dont discredit the guy he did survive what should of been a mortal wound using a sith ability. If not for him looking for recruits all sith teaching would have ended with sidious but maul was training people he was looking for an apprentice. Reference starwars Rebels and The Solo movie.
@@SpecForceMarine also i dont completely agree with this. Its not about what sidious feels is possible to replace him. Bane didnt view any of the other Sith as powerful like how this mythical revan was. Using this argument the sith at the time of banes life besides bane himself would not be sith. 2. Sith in EU is a red skinned race that doesnt exist anymore. 3. Anyone following old sith teachings from holocrons are following sith teaching which maul definitely got ahold of in rebels. Which definitely makes him a sith. Just cause sidious is a strong entity doesnt mean these others are not sith but it is kind of like a sith acolyte vs a true bonafide Sith inquisitor styled Master.
Plagueis said "New Order starts now" :O
Hey can you tell me where did you got your perfile picture? :o
Only two there are.
Sidious and his apprentice Maul...no wait and Tyranus. No wait Tyranus apprentice too, Ventress...and savage oppress too?(who is the apprentice of the apprentice of the apprentice?)
Well he thought Maul was dead, and went to take care of Maul and Savage when he found out. Also, Ventress was like an inquisitor. As soon as she started to outgrow that level of power, Sidious made Dooku take her out.
You realize palpatine was still an apprentice when he would of had maul. Braking rule of two his entire carreer. His honor guard and inquisition all show this
Is dooku really converted though i mean he seemed pretty honest to obiwan in clone wars episode 2 about sidious. His eyes never even taint. On top of that just going to point out master apprentice lineage. Yoda
Also he leaves maul when killing savage opress most likely cause hes not sure who is actually stronger between maul and vader. Maul definitely was given the chance to kill vader snd take his spot back.
And now you see why the system was flawed from the beginning
The Darth Bane books were so good. I've read probably a total of 25 (of the well over 100) books and ever time I read one, I'm like, they gotta make a movie out of this! I mean if they made 1 movie per year of every book there would be over 100 years worth of movies. That's job security for Disney for the next century!
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As always, wonderful video Star Wars Reading Club!
When he was killing Plagueis he stated that he never thought of him as Master. Only himself and that he kept him alive for so long. To get the secrets of immortality from him.
The irony of the Rule of Two is that it required an order of hedonistic social darwinists to value something beyond their own life
John Porteous not really, think of it like this, if you've got someone constantly at your heels that will attack once you fail you'll want to become more powerful to dissuade any thoughts of attacking.
The rule of two forced the master to become stronger while also giving the apprentice an example of the power they crave, without it the master would stagnate and become weak.
And it was ultimately self destructive, as each master knew enough to keep secrets from the apprentice which would go to do the same and more and more knowledge ended up going missing
Look at the shitfest that is Sidious' apprentices starting with Maul, each one trying to get their own apprentices, each weaker and more poorly trained than the last ending up in the same power vacuum that Bane attempted to end
Truth is that selfishness can only take you so far. The 1000 years of Sith knowledge culminating in Sidious (if you assume any dark lord as evil as Sidious before him) are improbable.
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What if Sidious And Vitiate had a conversation?
Is this original EU sidious if so thats a terrifying thing to imagine
@@Auron181 why?
@@gasmaskerhub2075 Owerpowered biTchiate and sidious talk and boom galaxy dead
The Rule of Two was social darwinism.
Palpatine in ROTS. "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us".
For Sidious, the power of the Dark Side was more important to him than himself. If anyone could surpass Palpatine in the Dark Side, he would ultimately be really satisfied.
Yep, just like Bane.
Anakin WAS more powerful than Yoda OR Sidious by ROTS, He lost 40% of his power level after his injuries and was STILL 80-90% the strength of Yoda and Sidious, And that comes directly from the man who WROTE IT all. Anakin was the most powerful force sensitive of all time by ROTS and the end of the war, That's been stated and confirmed over and over again in multiple places. Read the ROTS film novelization, Mace Windu admits straight up to Obi-Wan that Anakin was his superior and "arguably the most powerful Jedi in existence" , And that only HE was strong enough to stop a Star destroyer burning through the atmosphere with the force, as he did with the invisible hand. Which was what mace was referring to. Or, just read Dark Lord: the rise of Darth Vader, "Anakin Skywalker was once the most powerful Jedi Ever known to the order, but now he is but a disciple of the dark side, a lord of the dreaded Sith" , And on Mortis, the father states plain as day "the True Chosen one is the only being strong enough to control my children, now you see who you truly are" , And ALL of that is canon content, But even so, Lords of the Sith is a novel that came out after Disney took over, and it speaks about more of the same, stating how Anakin was the most powerful of all. Like I said, He was already much stronger than Sidious or Yoda either one by ROTS and the end of the war, Sidious knew that too, it was the whole reason he had to make sure Anakin felt as if he NEEDED him, so he would not just kill him. Yoda wanted Anakin to be the one to go and confront Sidious in the first place, but Mace messed it all up.
Daz Davis no no no no you don’t seem to understand the difference between potential and power the quote you gave of sid shows exactly the power of Skywalker. “Darth Vader WILL become more powerful than either of us” NOT Darth Vader IS more powerful that either of us.
Anakin would’ve had his arse handed to him by Sid 10 times out of 10.
Tielman Roos Lmao. And YOU don’t seem to understand Star Wars at ALL. Listen to Lucas you idiot.... Darth Vader lost nearly 40% of his power level after his injuries on Mustafar and yet was STILL 80-90% the strength of Yoda and Sidious. He was ALREADY 120-130% their power level you moron. Anakin Skywalker by ROTS was thee most powerful force sensitive ever known. Period. That’s is canonical FACT. Read the film novelization, and it’s sequel. It states it as clear as clear is possible. “He was the most powerful Jedi EVER KNOWN to the Jedi order, and now he is a disciple of the darkside, a lord of the dreaded Sith, and avenging right hand of the galaxy’s ruthless new emperor” , I can go on and on with fact and the source to find it in dude.. You don’t have a single clue what you’re talkin about. You’ve proven that. He was 23 almost 24 years old and in the beginning of his prime by ROTS, AND a hardened war veteran that had already trained his OWN apprentice into a little beast herself. Again in the ROTS film novelization, Mace Windu literally admitted to Obi-Wan than Anakin was his superior, and arguably the strongest Jedi in existence.... and Dooku said himself that his power literally scared him in that he could feel him growing stronger and stronger and stronger as the battle rages on.. That he was the most dominant saber duelist that HE had ever known, and Dooku was KNOWN himself to be thee best duelist of the Jedi order second only to Yoda before he left it. He used to beat Mace Windu all the time again before he left the order. Mace was literally afraid of him. And yet Anakin flattened him in one minute flat. This is not a debate dude, stop trying. You know nothing. Go read a thing or 2, or just watch the film, listen to Lucas like I said, or watch TCW... He was the Only being in existence powerful enough to control the literal Gods of the Force itself. Could Yoda do that? NO. Could Sidious do that? NOO.. ONLY Anakin Skywalker. And that is a FACT that cannot be argued. The Father told him outright, “only the chosen one is strong enough to control both of my children, now you see who you truly are....” , like I said. It’s not a debate dude. Stop trying. Skywalker was the strongest force sensitive ever known by ROTS. That is Fact, proven in sooo many different sources, and by Lucas himself. Which trumps literally everything else at all. No matter WHAT anybody tries to say. Period..... ESPECIALLY not some random moron on RUclips that doesn’t know anything about it to begin with.
The Rule of Two was not built for ruling galaxy. Destroying the Jedi in secret and plain sight, yes, but not after that has been accomplished. The Rule of Two ultimately led to the destruction of the Sith and the Galactic Empire.
TheGamingFluttershyFan you’re an idiot
@@dazdavis7896 why is that?
Spoilers. Lol u sure about that you clearly havent seen solo the whole point of that movie is to fix two things one. Sith line continued maul had apprentices and two why wasnt solo identified without his helm on the death star. Answer he is an ex storm trooper.
@@dazdavis7896 you're a dumbfuck and a douchebag
@@Visitormassacre Yeah, in Legends the Empire never ended, it just had different rulers over time.
Power is never stagnant it's either being gained or lost
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Andrew Schmidt yes? That's why I said it was ONE of the funniest "if not for me lines". I've been subbed for a long time and luv the channel.
Andrew Schmidt haha yeah😂 almost holding my breath with him
So what happens if both Sith lords are killed before an apprentice can be trained, such as if they both happened to be on a ship when it was destroyed, or the the Jedi discovered them both and killed them? Is there a fail-safe to ensure he survival of the Order, or do the Sith go extinct right there?
Doesn't really seem like an apt comparison. If you kill every human at once, then we'd go extinct, but the Sith ideology can potentially be passed down through recordings and holocrons, but that'd be hard to manage after death. For an ideology meant to preserve the Sith, it just seems like like it came with a pretty huge flaw.
Sith and Jedi are just labels
jedi could turn dark side but if the sith killed all jedi before getting wiped out themselves no more sith
Replying to a 5-year-old comment, but:
I'd imagine that the Sith would _temporarily_ go extinct. Force-Sensitives with a bad side will never truly go away, so it's inevitable some would fall to the Dark Side. They might not be true Sith, but I reason it would essentially be a cold restart of the Sith Order. If for whatever reason all the Sith knowledge was destroyed or just kept hidden from Dark Side practioniers, the Sith would still rise. It would just be very slow and probably mirror how the Sith Order started in the first place, as Dark Jedi relearn all the aspects of the Dark Side and begin to re-master it.
"teacher Yes, But master... never" Darth Sidious is just too cool!
Hahahahahaha
"For thinking this was a good choice for an equal partner!"
I wish that sith empire returned under emperor and dark council.
It's a pity that he could save other's from death but not himself it's ironic.
The concept of the rule of two comes from the ancient Sith lords, Bane is first introduced to it by Revan.
Great video
Sidious was right the purporse of the rule of two was the destruction of the jedi and the galactic republic, and he did it the republic become an empire and the jedi were all but destroyed. Now Sidious could ruled supreme as lord and master of the galaxy and he would train force sensitives to serve him and his empire, and of course hunt the remaining jedi. That was the purpose of the inquisitors, the emperor`s hand, the adepts of the dark side among others organizations under the empire. officially there was only him and Vader as his apprentice,shadow hand, supreme commander of the imperial forces the others were so loyal that never once an emperor minion betrayed him, because they were trained in the ways of the sith fight but not in the sith ideologies.
Palpatine really gave him a verbal lashing as he killed plagueis , adding that he was arrogant to think he'd be above the rule of two and that he wouldn't fall to it, and selfish in that he became obsessed with his own immortality, leaving Sidious to carry forth the grand plan of destroying the jedi and ruling the galaxy.
Video about Darth Sidious Rule of one according to the book of the sith?
You should do a video on what if Darth plagiues was emporer
I think Sidious philosophy captures the nature of the Sith well, they value power above everything especially power for themselves, Palpatine did not want to share his power so he disregarded the rule of two
What older sith lords thought for Darth sidious and how they react to his success of their gowl by dominate galactic empire?
Palpatine understood that he would be repeating those same mistakes that the ancient sith made during the old wars.
I think originally Sidious had every intention of fallowing the rule of two before Vader was defeated. “Lord Vader will become more powerful than either of us” he knew Vader would kill him but the legacy would of been fulfilled. But with Vader’s potential cut down he changed his plans.
You’re correct about that
I mean he killed Savage Oppress and said that this was the first rule of the sith as his reason so yeah I think it's safe to say he held this in high regard.
you see I like to think differend than other sith lords like mister snoke or plagueis or supreme leader kylo ren
darth sidious What thinking, exactly, did you put into getting chucked over a balcony by my Grandfather, Darth Vader? LOL
Kylo Feels Your Pain to be onest when I was falling I remebered something
1. I cannot fly
2. I know vaders real father
Emperor, the empire is back to make a big strike against the First Order. The fleets moved out in hyperspeed and is awaiting orders!
Sir... as a royal guard what exactly do you want me to do now that there is no longer a republic
Jan Gustl_WT be defensive they will have to come for us also launch rockets on the hangars we cnnot afford it that they have fghrer support gather vader super star destroyer or my eclipse cuzz that can take out snoke’s ship in one shot then we blast them to bits with grand admiral trawn
Abandoning the Rule of Two proved Darth Bane right. The Sith lost its dynamic.
So how do you feel about the inquisitors and how does "cannon" version of Sidious.
that makes a lot of sense, actually lol now I understand why they even wanted the rule of two lol.
Sidious died as all rule of two died. Hands of his apprentice. He could not escape it.
Either way Sideous never intended to share power he hoped to become immortal and if he would've fully achieved that I'm sure he would've used Vader's weakness of suit and eliminate Vader and be content to rule himself
Bane‘s rule was perfect because the Sith are too consumed with Greed to share power. He knew that it was the only chance for the Sith to prosper
Two quick questions...which Sith apprentice served their master the longest and were they killed, or did the do-in that master?
Clint Myers my guess is Zannah, she was apprenticed to Bane as a small girl and didn't challenge him for atleast 20 years. I'm not too sure thus answering wasn't really answering... from a certain point of view.... whatsa me asayin.... shoot me already
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What about when he took darth maul and darth tyrannus as apprentices?
I am, The Sith'ari...the one you all need, but don't deserve.
Yeah, I can't stand those people who conclude that Sidious wanted to do away with the Rule of Two and train thousands of Sith. I have no idea how they could have come to such a conclusion. All evidence points to the fact that Sidious believed very strongly in the Rule of Two.
However, he believed in the Rule of Two and only the next best thing, a placeholder to the end goal of any true Sith: a Rule of One, where the perfect Sith has achieved immortality and needs no one else. Sidious was on the verge of achieving this through his clones, though I suspect that they, too, were also placeholders for when he would discover how to keep himself truly immortal.
For the rule of 2, are other force-sensitives supposed to just be ignored or should the Sith have culled the potential recruits of the Jedi?
Usually they prefer people not for to be Jedi (IE jaded adults or something)
Sidious was weak. Short sighted. He embraced the Rule of Two in theory, but never fully in practice because he never thought he would lose power. I will finish what my Grandfather started. I will become the most powerful being to ever have ruled the galaxy. My power is only beginning to be realized.
Hmmm, interesting notion. I do wonder though. For a non Sith you do dabble a fair deal with their teachings. Killing dear ones to prove thy self to the dark side, killing thy master when they outlive their usefulness. And by what you state, I feel as if you expect to be overthrown yourself. Would you be content with one stronger taking your place as you did snokes? Or shall you succeed where sidious failed and rule forever?
Yes, Darth Ren strike down your true enemy....Micky Mouse. Only then will you truly rule the galaxy and your journey to the dark side will be complete.
Kylo Ren doesn't exist in the universe this video deals with (Legends).
Marka Ragnos already did
John Vougias I don't feel like you're being very supportive. But I do Feel Your Pain.
So what happened to your usual picture while "IN THIS VIDEO EXPOSE..."
What did Darth Sidious think of the Dark Council?
Let's be honest, Sidious wanted to run the Empire as one forever. He was probably trying to find a way to become more powerful and deage, so he could take out Vader. He probably had Vader's suit ready all along, knowing he'd get burned on Mustafar. He didn't want Anakin because of his power. Sidious wanted to lessen Anakin's power and use him as a cyborg slave.
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The funny thing is, is that Sidious still upheld the rule of 2 lol.
Equality among Sith Lords? So plagueis wanted to replace Bane’s rule of two with 2 Sith Lords equally ruling the Galaxy?
Bane was the second greatest sith Lord ever. Only Sidious was greater.
to be honest in canon sidious seems to take the ro2 more seriously
The dark side anointed Sidious, which prompted him to murder his master in his sleep
This is Canon for me!
Is this canon content or legends?
The rule of two is the only way the Sith could have remained in control of the galaxy. It was the only doctrine that used the dark side of the force to its fullest potential. It ensured that whoever was in control of the Galaxy was at least as powerful as, in fact more powerful than, the previous leader. Darth Plagueis wanted to replace jealousy with trust, which was a betrayal of the dark side. He also wanted to replace the cycle of increasing the power of the Sith with each leader, with two Immortal leaders working in tandem to make each other as powerful as possible. This would have worked if Darth Plagueis had picked an apprentice who agreed with his philosophy. But, as we see in the novel, Darth Sidious never had the intention of ever sharing power with him.
Plagueis abandoned the rule of two because he became powerful enough in the for to live forever
Plagueis was doing the same thing as the Brotherhood of Darkness was doing, it didn’t work then and it wouldn’t work now. These two ruined the Sith Order!
Too bad Old Republic is not cannon Vitiate would laugh at Sidious idea of planning.
Great video very informative love the channel.
yeah because Vitiate was very "successful" destroying the Jedi and Republic with his army of sith and both his empires didn't completely fall apart due to infighting and Power grabs?
While Sidious had only one Sith apprentice who singles handily Created a war with both sides are controlled by the sith, brought down the entire republic Created an Empire that completely dominated the Entire Galaxy and complete destruction of Enitre Jedi Order with Luke being the last Jedi in the galaxy by the time of ROTJ.
You are right about Sidious destroying the Jedi order and the Republic compared to Vitiate , I agree Sidious was more successful in Vitiate in that regard. Honestly don't think Vitiate later to be Valkorion wanted to truly destroy the Republic he just wanted to cause all of that death and destruction to power that ritual he did to keep himself alive and he wanted people to rule over.
He manipulated the Mandalorions to send them to war in the Mandalorian Wars he dominated Revan and Malak to his will and have them star the Jedi Civil War. Then there was the Great Galactic War and the Cold War, then towards the end of it he destroyed all life on Ziost when he returned to the Eternal Empire his second Empire that was even more powerful than his previous Sith Empire and the Republic combined defeating both of them but not wiping out the Jedi or Sith entirely. He was over 1400 years old that is some long term planning.
That being said like I said before do agree with you that Sidious was definitely more successful in destroying the Jedi and did it in a much short timer.
and like I said both his empires fell apart with him being killed and overthrown and his long-term planning completely fell apart he spent 1000 years of planning to capture only half the Galaxy before losing it not to mention Revan influenced and manipulated his mind to make a peace treaty with the republic and then everything went downhill from there. sith empire started to crumble with sith infighting among themselves during TOR and his family (son and daughter) seized the Eternal Empire from him which also caused more infighting with his second empire and he was gone for good. he was not close to achieving immortality then all of his sith Predecessors even Darth plagueis mention him in more casual dismissive as ancient sith lord who failed to achieve immortality.
He didn't manipulate the Mandalorians.The Mandalorians already were building their armies and wanted to go war with Republic after the fallen Sith Lord Exar Kun defeat with Republic. Mandalore the Ultimate was war veteran in Exar kun war and the Mandalorian wars was going to happen either way. The sith empire only promised to back the Mandalorians if they started losing the war which they didn't fulfill their promise and Mandalore told Revan of Sith Empire involvement.
Vitiate achievements was dwarfed by Darth Ruin's Sith Empire which was more powerful and ruled the galaxy for 1000 years before its downfall. The whole Valkorion characterization is horrible re-written of the Character due Bioware writers turned 180 degrees with a character I honestly don't care about Vitiate motives because his motives and goals change when it suits the writers and makes him very inconsistent character.
He didn't want to rule the galaxy but rather absorb it and they made him lose with some weird asspull.
I left a like for *thinking this was a good choice for an equal partner*
Plagueis and Sidious were fools. Bane also considered a Rule of One but realized that even a Dark Lord of the Sith would eventually die.
You know bane would have done the same if he learned the essance transfer ritual erlier
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I thought D Zannah killed Bane. Idk
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What if the Sith We're more United like the Jedi?
FalloutReaper read the darth bane books to find out.
Well, that would ultimately depend on the Sith Order in question and their methodology. If the Sith Order was like the Brotherhood of Darkness, then it would still self-destruct. But if the Sith Order adopted the mindset of Sith like Darth Marr and Lana Beniko, then the Sith would actually stand a chance of conquering the galaxy.
This isn't an essay...you don't need to say, "in this video expose" every time...
if only sidious actually followed the rule of two his apprentice would have became probably the strongest being in the entire galaxy, but unfortunately he was too prideful from what I understood.
Sidious made one crucial mistake, he stopped the rule of two with himself.
He should have found an apprentice and poured his knowledge into him, allowing for an even more powerful successor.
Had the rule of two remained true, the sith would have won.
untrue he basterdized the teachings of bane by only doing the rule of one one eternal being to rule all vader is just a puppet and a weakend one when he became a cyborg one that cannot destroy sidious but only submit to him and anyone that would try to join him are not official sith or his apprentice just mear puppets
Alright I just discovered this channel and absolutely love the content but, and please take this in the spirit in which it is meant, it's "tenets" not "tenents". Please :)
Too bad Anakin was a whiny brat.
Bogdan Cvetkovic A shitty chosen one, clone wars made him better at least
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Then what were the inquisitors
Millie Mccarver dark side acolytes. Much like assuage ventress, savage opress, and pretty much what grievous or DURGe would be if they were force sensitive. Not true apprentices but mere soldiers and tools to be used to serve the sith lord rather than the minion as well. A dark side acolyte would usually be more focused on Lightsaber combat (much like the inquisitors who's lightsabers are basically Sci fi Swiss Army knives) and simple force powers than truly powerful and dangerous abilities the dark side could offer like Sith alchemy, force drain,or even force lightning.
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They also serve as potential appreatices for either the master or the appreatice after they take the rule.
Assuming of course they succeed or gain enough favor.
Millie Mccarver They were technically Sith, but not true Sith like Bane, Zannah, Sidious or Vader.
Emp United good point!
They are servants of the SITH
The Rule of Two is a ruthless philosophy, and effective. Don't understand Plagueis' motivation for turning away from it.
Having only two is risky. Never thought about it that way. My problem with the rule was if the apprentice tried and failed to overthrow the master, all those years invested in training would be lost. By the time a new apprentice was fully trained, the master would likely be old and easily beatable, which undermines the whole idea of each generation being more powerful than the last.
I don't know. If I remember correctly (and I may have to go back and re-read the Bane trilogy__it's been a while), he made it clear to Zannah that when she made her move, either he dies or she does. If you remember the story, Bane was losing faith in his apprentice because she was so hesitant to attack. Why? Because she knew how powerful the Sith Lord was, and that if she lost__there would be no do-overs.
zulubro He feared losing his power, this made him weak.
zulubro If the apprentice tries and fails then the apprentice was too weak.
old age? a solution to that problem was in the third of the darth bane trilogy.
Simple. He wanted to live forever. The rule of two results in the masters death at the hands of the apprentice
I like Darth Plagueis more than Darth Sidious and Darth Vader tbh.
The rule of 2 was a stupid idea. That being said the siths greatest enemy was themselves.
Bane built the rule of two because the Sith of his time were weak and foolish. Everyone that served the dark side of the Force, called themselves Sith. Even if they were weak in the Force. Weak Sith lords would team up and bring down powerful Sith lords. Bane believed that the Sith had been water down. And he was right.
Edwin Lindley I know why he did it. and I disagree with the rule of 2. But yes the sith we're weaker due to weak so called sith.
You know there is a focus on many alien races and other species but why? I have counted on one hand 3 black characters ( Mace Windu, Lando and Finn) in the massive Star Wars Universe. Besides the most recent introduction of Rose, Baze and Chirrut why is there no latin characters? Why has there been a gender shift in the franchise, now anytime Star Wars is mentioned you will most likely now see references a female lead. Why is there a lack of diversity within the Star Wars universe?
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Khaden Allast oh whoops doo, you counted 2 out of a possible infinite number of people it could be. Bravo you are so smart.
Wait you forgot saw guerrra? Or the fact that I'm pretty sure Poe is Latino? In any case If your implying this has much of anything to due with racism than I doubt it, at least not with Star Wars itself. To be blunt there's just a lot more notable white actors in Hollywood then there are a lot of the other races. I mean yeah they could go through the effort of adding more diversity in their but from the new trilogy it looks like there already at it! I'm sure things will get even more diverse in the future, but I'm just not hoping their siding with diversity over talent. In any case in lore human race doesn't seem to be an issue even within the empire, kinda insignificant when there are countless different kinds of sentient life, if anything I want to see aliens be introduced more into the main cast than I do anything else.
Star Wars are about good story, not artificial diversity.
How about you stop complaining. We do not need diversity in every single aspect of Our Lives. Not to mention the new Star Wars movies are completely filled with diversity.
its not real,,, all of you know this,,, right?
The Great Pumpkin takes offense to this
Keith Skelhorne yeah, but fiction is fun.
Weakling.