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Imagine Picard getting back to the Enterprise after everything and finally sits down at his desk in his ready room and is like "Where the hell is my fish?" 😂
Commander, I want a list of all the changes Gelico made.
1. Troi in Unform. She prefers it.
2. Fish.
Not the bloody fish.
3. I was relieved of duty.
4. He banned Picard Day
Maybe I can overlook the fish.
@@TheOmegaRiddlerthis is now the canon reason they weren't all changed back
"Beamed it into space, sir."
"You know something, Counselor? I could swear Livingston's fins look differently now. The torture must have affected me more than I suspected."
@BlazingOwnager I was looking for a fish pun so bad that I thought you wrote "Breamed it in to space, sir".
The fish isn't some captive pet, that's Lt. Bloop, liasion to the cetacean officers.
Yeah, and it's sad the Jellico is such a speciesist jerk. "Get that fish out." Such cringe. /s
Man Lower Decks really hit home for a lot of people huh
True but he's been putting in requisitions for his own office for years. Sharing one with Picard wasn't bad but he needed his own space.
@@evilmiera Weren't cetacean ops referenced as far back as TNG's "we'll always have Paris" in '88? Lower Decks just gave it screentime and characters. Iirc I've seen ship cross-sections with cetacean ops marked.
his name is Livingston!
Another benefit to putting Troi in a uniform is that it gives a burst of blue on the bridge when the only other time we see the blue uniforms on a regular basis is just in sick bay.
Yeah that's an odd thing that rarely gets brought up... in TNG blue shirts were supposed to be science and medical... we almost never see anyone in science uniform. Logically it'd make sense for Data... but he wears yellow... for engineering?
@@marhawkman303 Data was the Operations officer, like Ensign Kim. It makes total sense.
@@thomasbrown3793 Yeah, he's the guy who sciences the tech... and we have no actual science officer? It's weird.
Being a Counselor isn't far from Medical, so blue does make sense...and Deanna looks so darn good in it! ❤
@@marhawkman303because the blue uniform clashed with the gold Data makeup
My theory is that the fish isn’t real, it’s a hologram.
Or alternatively, the fish is real and the tank is a tiny holodeck 😂
That was Stewart's opinion as well.
The holofish AI is such high fidelity, it’s even suffering like a real fish would.
It’s a nice theory, but in the episode where every living thing on board de-evolves it becomes a jellyfish.
I always thought that too.
That he kept it there to remind him no matter how helpless a creature (or representative he was negotiating with) seemed to be, one slip up and he and his crew could wind up dead.
I never realized the fish never came back
Sent down to cetatian ops, I hear it eventually reached the rank of lieutenant commander.
He did. Or a cousin did. Caveman Riker is eating an office fish in Genesis.
And the fish tank got twice as big in Generations.
@@DrewLSsix promotion worthy comment
@@MuzzyBarkerhe wasn’t eating it, he was bashing the fish tank (so he probably DID want to eat it).
He never got in, but the aquarium cracked. When CaveRiker turns, you can see water leaking out
Helps that Troi looks so much better in the uniform than in the... yoga therapy gear?
Sirtis is a genuinely gorgeous woman, but some of the things they put her in just didn't work.
Blasphemy
I was surprised that she kept appearing in shorts because when I first saw her outfit sans context I assumed she was a guest civilian or Starfleet personnel.
One claimed reason was that she should look casual to earn patients' trust. For a talk therapist, boy, does that NOT mean wearing a skintight catsuit.
😂😂😂😂
My sister and I, who watched religiously when the show first run, always hated what we called Troi's plumsuits. We loved that she finally got a uniform and we agreed that she looked great in it!
I liked Jellico. He was not made to be an enemy, but to just be disliked. He brought an order and discipline to the crew that was lacking. If you still like TNG you can continue their adventures on STO (Star Trek Online). Fly your own Galaxy, create your own Away Team, save the universe! Devs did a super good job on details. The cut scenes of your Galaxy are so real it's like the adventure never ended 👍
@@covingtonhalltown3730yeah, Jellico was a great character acted well. Riker was kind of acting petulant imo. Sure, Jellico was gruff but he also had moments of empathy and compassion - but more importantly he was a war commander. Kind of like WW2 battle commanders that were known to be brusque but got the job done, like Patton, Zhukov, Etc
I liked the blue dress she wore occasionally but I never liked the plum one piece. She looks great in a uniform.
Also what I like about Deanna in uniform is that it shows her rank as commander. She's one of the higher ranked officers in the ship, showing it gives the audience a reminder of why she should be paid attention
Lt commander (2 gold, one black). So she holds the same rank as Data. Which also tied back to 5x05 disaster where she has to take command as the highest ranking officer on the bridge because Ro is only a Lt
@@kasocool2812 I wonder if that's an error because Crusher and later Troi outrank Data but he is still above them in the chain of command. I wonder if Ensign Ro being a proper bridge officer would also put her above Troi.
@@brandonlink6568 Crusher is a commander so would outrank most people (theirs also the whole medical directive stuff where if needs be she could take command away from the captain). I'm assuming in most cases the writers just forget about her and Troi's ranks. In universe he's probably been either given temporary command by a superior officer giving him the authority to do so. Or crusher and troi just choose to follow them.
Star fleet is based on the us navy if I remember correctly so there might be information on how they deal with it somewhere
@@kasocool2812 I looked into this awhile ago and there's a term called Line Officer that's basically the chain (line) of command. So Data is 3rd in command of the ship even though 4 others onboard outrank him but not all of them are line officers.
@@brandonlink6568
In the real Navy, some officer lines like medical officers do not get "Chain-of-command" authority unless it is to command their own departments (in the "All Good Things .." episode, you see Beverly commanding a MEDICAL ship, so that matches).
The Line Officer is one who went through specialized training to take over in the regular "chain of command" like Troi did when she went out to get her rank increased to Full Commander from Lieutenant Commander.
So she was already in the "chain of command" (I guess Starfleet put Counselors in the line) but after that she could actually transfer to the Command branch and take on a ship command (probably starting with a smaller vessel than something like a Galaxy-Class) if she wanted to, or if Starfleet needed a qualified ship commander in an emergency.
The fish thing is weird. In a universe with a holodeck I always imagined it was a fake fish he just liked to see because it’s such a helpless creature but at the same time it’s one of the deadliest fish known to man, and was meant to remind him to never let his guard down while negotiating no matter how helpless the delegate seemed to be.
It was definitely a good metaphor for that, but also something else.
Picard is a great diplomat, but he can also be a cunning warrior when needed. The Picard maneuver is a great example of that.
Another metaphor the fish may have is that it's a visual reminder for the viewer that Picard is holding something back, an ability to be ferocious and deadly....once let loose.
@@Soldier4USA2005 My thoughts on Picard is that... we know he was actually a science officer before he got promoted. He has a lot of... relics of his own past. What does the fish say about that? hmmm.,.
@@marhawkman303 Obvious bait is obvious.
Marina Sirtis in uniform was one of the best decisions in the season.
she really wanted underwear
She was tired of being the space Barbie,
@@amead78 The Uniform didn't change that. They should have evolved her tasks. Maybe as Starfleet Intelligence Officer for covered Ops or interrogations. Maybe some kind of combat training. Being only the Counselor was boring as fuck.
@@greyd.99xsomeespecially since they essentially made Guinan the ship’s counselor in all but name.
@@NeoTechniDenied!
Can't believe it took 6 and 1/2 years to get her a uniform. I remember watching this live and going it's really late in the game for her to wear a uniform. That even to this day when I see episodes of her in a uniform I know that they are end game episodes.
You can date the show specifically into 4 eras.
1) No beard Riker
2) The Pulaski season
3) The peak years
4) Deanna Troi uniform
What I don't get is why people are saying it took six years. She was in a uniform in the first season. It was the tunic uniform men and women wore that they later dropped but it was still a uniform and not one of her bruise suits.
She looked so much better in the uniform
Naa, much sexier without it.
You're obviously not a lesbian.
Also, 7 of 9 and T'Pol both looked better in uniform. I never understood why they insisted on having them wear the catsuits.
Same. It wasn't only demeaning to the characters, actresses, and women in general, but to the fans as well.
@@orkleth always thought Kira's Bajoran uniform was the worst. Like they wanted to transition away from the form fitting cat suit to give her actual authority, but ended up half assing it. She got an instant charisma and hotness boost once she stepped into that Starfleet uniform.
Patrick Stewart didn't want picard to be commander Shepard forgetting to feed his fish over a decade earlier lol
I had such a negative reaction to Jellico when TNG first aired. Now I think it's because I was conditioned to see Ronny Cox as the bad guy! I wonder if I'd seen the character differently with an unknown actor.
Nah he was a total jerk.
So you never watched Beverly Hills Cop?
I know "Jellico's not a bad guy" is now a common opinion among fans, but what shocked me on my last rewatch is how childish _Riker_ seems in part II.
When I was a kid I thought Jellico was a dick. And now that you mention it, it's also possible it's because I equate Ronny Cox with the douche on a power trip type. But after having been in the military, and having kids of my own, I get him. There was a lot to do in very little time, so he had to crack the whip in order to achieve the objectives.
@@MegaZeta His approach was wrong and out of character. He'd be the first to tell anyone else that first you make the new schedule, then you present your arguments against it. That way you can't be accused of avoiding work.
The reason for removing the fish tank is because they would only remember to feed the fish on filming days. Several episodes were filmed with no fish in the tank because it died and they didn't have time to replace it.
I’m not sure if it was then, but nowadays lionfish can be an invasive species in some areas, so it might’ve been easier nowadays to film with one and get one quickly.
Also I’m assuming Patrick kind of changed his mind about “”captive”” animals because he’s owned several dogs since IRL, and obviously Picard had Number One in the series.
@@stevesminty okay but there is a difference in having a dog and giving it enough space to run around and play and having a fish that size in what looks like 2.5 gallon tank.
That kind of makes it worse. It could also be sir Patrick's attempt to save the feelings of the people who did not take care of the fish. Requesting it for story reasons won't get people in trouble like calling them terrible people who killed multiple fish
@@Benjamin1986980 Excellent point!
@@389Miku definitely true!
Without looking it up, I remembered Picard's fish is named Livingston.
I'm such a geek!🤣
Dr. Livingston, I presume. A 24th century fish would have a PHD.
@@HariSeldon913He's a Sub-Space, Warp Theory, Specialist ( junior grade ), who was reassigned from Cetation Ops. 🐠
The Dolphins kept trying to eat him.
Peace! 🍻✨🌎❤🐬✨✌
The fish was named after producer David Livingston. (I'M KING OF THE NERDS FOR KNOWING THIS!)
@@HariSeldon913 Was it ever spoken on screen or is that All There In The Manual?
In the Army, I was once brought in to fix a broken company when the old commander got fired; I had already commanded a company in that division
I called myself Captain Jellico, it became my thing
After ky short 8 month command, my message over the company leadership group thread was a meme of Jellico saying "its been an honor serving with all of you"
I knew about the uniform. Didn't know about the fish
Same here.
The fact Deanna was kept out of uniform for so long did a major disservice to the character imho.
She was hired as "eye candy" according to several articles I have read. The unisex trouser uniforms were thought as not sexy enough for the "eye candy" hence her pastel "uniform". She want seen as a front line character until later in the run.
I personally think she looks great in the uniform but still a little weak as a character..
Not really. It was pretty clear that she wore civilian clothing as a counselor to put her clients at ease.
@@CS-zn6pp Obviously so. Her acting and character are hollow. She is basically useless for most of the series.
Her terrible psychic abilities were also a disservice.
"RAAAWWWRRRR!"
"I'm sensing hostility."
BuT RoDdEnBeRry WaS a ViSiOnArY!!!
Why is it that both Deanna & 7 of 9 looked the best in their uniforms that they weren’t allowed to wear the rest of the time?
Fr and for 7 she had it for a single episode
Dax always looked hot in hers.
Comfort, maybe. Both actresses were essentially bolted into catsuits with corsets. Jeri Ryan's claustrophobic and said it felt like being strangled all day.
There's also that they break uniformity and stick out like sore thumbs. Maybe if their suits had more personality to them.
Probably bc of producer Rick Berman. He's also a big reason why there were basically no queer characters on Star Trek for the longest time.
I'm dying at the super intense music at him telling her to wear a uniform
It *IS* a terribly dramatic moment. A pivotal moment which would change the course of the entire series forever. A moment to be mourned somberly. The moment we said goodbye to the cleavage.
@@etsequentia6765 Goodbye, tiddies...
The whole uniform makes sense. I agree 🫡
A few years before in the original "Total Recall" , Ronny Cox had a fish tank in his office.
ruclips.net/video/RBYwCoCLj7g/видео.html
There's a later scene where he smashes the tank in a rage, and the fish flop around air-drowning on the floor. So Captain Jellico hates fish.
Give da peeple eeeaaairrr!
@@ModernRelikJellico/Cohaagen gave the extra fish food to feed Benny's kids who were actually Cardassian 😂😂😂
Actually Jellico was right about pretty much everything and Riker was essentially the antagonist.
Amen! As a former naval officer I thought Riker was way out of line and should’ve been brought up on charges…
Agreed. When it came down to it he even swallowed his pride to make sure it was done and to get Riker on that shuttle.
This!
@@markmusselwhite9377Yeah, he was too much Tom Kiefer and not enough Steve Merrick in those episodes.
It was pointed out by another lore hound that Jellico's wanting to change the shift layouts not only made sense but actually was adopted elsewhere in Starfleet later on. Further solidifying Riker being a stupid and egotistical man-child.
Aside from Riker the character, this was also a peak moment of the writers outing themselves as not really knowing how an actual military command structure works...which was baffling, cause in other moments they do a decent job and provide good examples of command and leadership. The biggest one would be Data dressing Worf down when he was temporarily in command, which contrasts with here...with Worf, he stepped a toe out of line with Data, here while Riker "mostly" seems to keep it behind closed doors, pretty much straight up mutinies against Jellico...in the middle of a critical ongoing crisis situation (and with that smug grin the character put on some times).
Imagine destroying Picard's extremely realistic android lionfish that cost half as much as a starship. Monsters.
The animal thing is a little odd considering multiple crew members supposedly had pets, and numerous times it's been mentioned or shown that there are zoo animals ( dolphins ECT) onboard the ship.
Unlike a lionfish on a TV set, though, the cats used for Spot probably didn't die regularly from getting jostled. Most fish are delicate when moved.
@@MegaZeta true that’s an interesting angle, they probably didn’t keep it on set the whole time. But in universe that doesn’t matter
Well with the dolphins they aren't just some random dolphins kept in a tank for people to look at they are actually crew members that specializes in the ships navigation systems
@@mandalorefett3589 What? The dolphins are actual crew members? Do they have rank pips?
@@TonkarzOfSolSystem yes they are actual crew members they worked in the cetacean ops. yes they have rank lips like everyone else and before you ask the source they dropped the explanation in the next generation technical manual from 91
I knew of the uniform issue for decades. First time learning about the fish.
No the counselor didn’t wear the uniform because she was a counselor. Her job was different than the others and having the softer cloths could help her in her job that having a ridged uniform cannot when counseling.
TNG is one of my favorite shows of all time, and I was so glad when they finally had Troi wear a standard officer's uniform. Her rank and her experience deserved that kind of respect.
I liked that it showed Jellico being his own captain and taking charge. The writers wanted him to be the "jerk" character we were all supposed to hate, but instead became a fan favorite😊
Except for the fact he was more than okay with just leaving Picard behind. Totally not military like.
Marina said in an interview, that after wearing the „cheerleader“ uniform in the pilot, the producers didn’t like it, because she looked fat. And they told her to lose six pound between May and September, when they were to shoot the first season. So she had four months to lose the weight, and lost eight pounds in the end.
She took a personal trainer and continued with the gym throughout the series. But then the producers decided that a uniform would make her look too „reserved“ for a ship‘s counsellor, so they put her in civilian clothing, to „mellow“ her appearance. And Roddenberry wanted her to have a cleavage, but as she said: „You can’t have brains and cleavage in Hollywood at the same time.“
She begged the producers to make her look more professional and put her in a blue uniform, and was beyond thrilled when they did. „My cleavage was gone but suddenly I got my brains back. I had my pips, my tricorder, my phaser and I got to go on away mission. I was back in the game.“
An unfortunate decision. The loss of the cleavage was the moment the show took a downturn and started to nosedive. It was the beginning of the end.
@@etsequentia6765 Oh really?
I always imagined the fish was a gift from a grateful party he had served in some manner. Every other thing ever presented in his office, was always something he had struggled to achieve or was a deeply personal gift. He was a diplomat before he died. Serving hundreds, maybe thousands of species over decades of service.
livingston's removal was, genuinely, one of my least favourite things that happened in the entirety of tng. every time i saw him on screen it made me so happy. really, if they had just invested in getting him a bigger tank... that's what i think would be more suitable. picard has done plenty of immoral things, definitely things more old-fashioned than keeping a fish, but i think he'd have the knowledge and compassion to take care of it a lot better. after all, data has spot. i don't see why anyone on the enterprise would be above the idea of having pets. livingston never seemed to me like an object and i never thought picard saw him that way.
Picard no, but Patrick Steward yes. It was against Stewards personal morals as to why he hated having the fish there. He didn't like the idea of keeping pets or animals confined. The fact that there was spot and other animals onboard the Enterprise is really a moot point and not really relevant to the situation.
They could have had her in those outfits when doing her counselling or off duty, but on duty and on the bridge she should have been in uniform.
The only non uniform outfit of hers I liked was the blue dress she had.
Wow! Stewert was further gone than I imagined...
whY NOT have just a fish..that is like a hologram]
Could have been a holographic fish, could have been a mention of Data programming it for Picard as a birthday girft. But no.
Now I can’t help but ingratiate Picard complaining about Spot. Like they are in space. What are they going to do, teleport the fish to the nearest planet with a salt water ocean?
That would break the Prime Directive. They would have to take it back to it's home planet lol
Real talk, the ship had a pretty large aquarium/oceanic section. They could have held the fish there until the next time they were back at earth. I mean, bringing in real talk to a Star trek comment and all that....
@@slightlyevolved ya but that leads to the question of how big an aquarium do you need for it to be humane. After all plenty of people think the concept of zoos and aquariums are wrong. Also that’s a lion fish in there and they are very aggressive and have done serious damage to non-native areas. It’s possible it could wipe out a tank that isn’t designed for them.
@@slightlyevolvedthey could just give it to the next starfleet ship that's heading towards earth. If neccessary that ship can do the same, etc.
@C0ldIron there's an aquarium type environment called 'Cetacean Ops', which is basically the part of the ship where sentient dolphins enlisted in Starfleet (this is canon, I'm not making this up) lived and worked
If it's big enough for sentient lifeforms to be happy, I think they'd take good care of the lionfish :)
Given that Troi's outfits were to up the raitings it is ironic that she, in my opinion, looks so much better in uniform.
Personally I hate the idea of costumes for ratings. They did the same for Seven and, over on Stargate, they had Anise/Freya. All the other Tok'ra have normal clothes except her.
It's all about appealing to the audience. There's literally no other point of a show.
@@SlyNine Strongly disagree. The costumes should look appropriate for the character. If Troi needed to be in those outfits then don't make her an officer. Have her be a non-starfleet therapist.
I think the uniform changed blossomed later when Tori had to take command during the episode Disaster and later in the episode where she was taking a test for regular command… forgot the name but she had to order fake LaForge to his death.
It would have been cool to see that the fish tank was just a hologram and Jellico swapped it for a photo of his kid or something.
As an ex-Navy submariner, I loved Jellicoe running his ship much more like a real life ship of war. The only issue I had with the episode is just how much they had Riker act like a childish little bitch. They did Riker dirty by scripting him to act that way.
You can’t solve a crisis by being a Nice-guy.
It takes a dictator.
@@perfectsplit5515 he wasn't being a dictator, he was being a military commander. HUGE difference.
@@22steve5150 The military is a dictatorship.
It is not a democracy.
This was an exploratory period for starfleet. It would be years before the Dominion war. Think of it like the 80s for the US military.
@@rmo9808 US military in the 80s had a lot of funding, due to the Cold War. Is that the aspect to which you are referring, in your analogy?
A: it's the future, we literally have animated picture frames today, no living animals in them...
B: Lion Fish are not barracudas, they don't travel unless they have to, so synthesize some shrimp dinner and he'd be perfectly happy in the safety of that tank!
I get it, honestly. Like if I was filming a show with the same cast for several years, and all my actor friends got to wear cool uniforms all the time, I’d want to as well.
I love that actor when his eyes popped out in *_TOTAL RECALL_*
Having fish is a violation of their rights? Did it ever occur to Stewart that his character may have been giving those fish asylum from their tyrannical planet?
"Commander Riker, from now on I'd like you to walk around chairs, the main bridge isn't a climbing frame for your freakish daddy-longlegs moments."
Patrick Stewart cost a lionfish it’s job and in retaliation, the lionfish invaded foreign waters as an invasive species.
Patrick Stewart's distaste for the aquarium as part of his character had to be exacerbated by how there were probably quite a few Livingstons, to put it delicately, given reactions of most fish to stress.
"There's a lot of things..."
(Lists 2 things)
Bro, even the whales in cetacean ops would be like "It's a fish dude, it's fine. We eat those."
I love hearing these little informative tidbits.
I always took the fish tank as being a simulated one and Troi’s clothing as an unusually distant counsellor’s uniform; like a difference between a nurse’s uniform and a support worker’s uniform, with the not so military nature being to help put people more at ease.
That said, not liking the princes of the universe demanding we be assimilated by their expression demands of us, if Troi’s actress wanted to wear something more military, that’s up to her, as far as I’m concerned.
Until this episode, I always forget she is a star fleet officer.
"Mr. Riker! Why the hell is my fish wearing a Starfleet uniform?"
Also a LIONFISH is a hazard on a spaceship.
Having a shrink as part of the command staff was such an 80s vibe, so informal hotness would be a natural prerequisite for her outfit.
If true, what does it say that it took five and a half seasons - almost 80% of the way through the show's run - for those things to happen? How deaf to their actors' were the production staff? (And I know the answer was "very" in the early seasons, but these things couldn't happen in season 3 or 4? Couldn't get rid of a fish until half way through the penultimate season?)
They were deaf to female actors until right about … eight years ago?
Production staff had no say, it was the bean counters and executives.
@@TOYBOX2008 You think the wardrobe and set dressing decisions were made by accountants?
That's a thing you're actually thinking?
@@wellesradioBeing deaf also found its way into Picard, too. The writers and producers were also deaf to the Black actors as well because they made Worf a deadbeat father, something Dorn didn't want. AUdiences got no closure on his issues with Alexander. Meanwhile, despite asking, LeVar NEVER got a wife, but was made a Disney father with two daughters! Burton really wanted to show health relationships of Black families. Regarding the Marina, when she was hired, she was normal sized, but the producers forced her to loose weight. Once she lost the weight, the producers still refused to give her a standard uniform. Then the fans protested harshly and the producers were forced to allow Marina to wear a uniform. Just sad all around!
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbersYou need to actually listen to what the actors have been saying over the last six decades. Often times, people had no say. This was especially true if you were a woman or minority. So yes, accountants and producers had a pony in the race and kept people in "their places" if they thought it was going to increas ratings and make profit for investors!
In the final episode, All good things, Q : [scoffs] The anomaly, my ship, my crew; I suppose you're worried about your fish, too.
Well... yeah.
She looked so much better In a Star Fleet uniform
I think Jellico wanted to get rid of the fish because he was worried he would lose his temper on it.
Fish thing sounds a bit bizarre - it's some kind of hologram or whatever.
I think your average fish wouldn't mind being in a protected environment with health care benefits vs being in the wild filled with parasites and hunted by other animals.
The Lionfish: DAMMIT! How much screentime do you think I'll get if I'm not in the Ready Room?!?
I had breakfast with Ronnie Cox at my house he told me he doesn't want to act anymore he just wants to play his banjo.
He's done a few voice roles recently, but as they're essentially cameos he doesn't really need to leave his house to do them.
This is brilliant! A whole new perspective on Jellico. Thanks for the info.
I was in the military when I saw these episodes, so I really enjoyed seeing Jellico "lock everyone's heels" and whip them into a more squared away, professional shape.
Stewart was being silly here. Picard doesn't hold the fish captive, he provides an environment for the fish to live in so that the fish can travel the galaxy with him.
They had a whole zoo on board.
Thanks for making rewatch this double episode. It gets better every watchthrough
I like that fish. I didn't have a problem with this guy.
Fish were holographic, problem solved
Sirtis desperately hoped a uniform would make her character relevant. 😁
Data's pet cat Spot is adorable, but keeping a pet fish is barbaric.
"Okay, fine, in the next episode, we will say the fish is a hologram... but were keeping the fish!" 😂
That’s because the loin fish is actual a crew member
It can boss O’Brien around
LOIN FISH
"Holding a fish captive in my office"
As opposed to dumping it out into the ocean, to devour microplastics
I think it's funny how they framed these requests through the lens of having it be orders from a temporary Captain most of the crew didn't like.😂
Also I always heard the story about the Fish not as Patrick Stewart being generally against the idea of owning fish, but rather that he didn't like how tiny the aquarium was.
Could be explained away that it's really just a hologram fish, but then it's still too small for a holofish.
Based on some other comments, the crew (of the show, not the ship) was apparently relatively bad at actually feeding the fish on non-shooting days, and thus they ended up going through quite a few lion-fish. No longer having the fish removed the problem of having to feed the fish.
I actually liked Jellico as a captain. I know he was designed to be an antagonist, but he made it seem more military and formal. Everyone was so lax…i mean, Riker was smashing a different junior officer every other episode
"Captain Picard made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake."
“By the time they get rid of that fish, I’ll be back home in time for cornflakes!”
The four shifts schedule never made any sense to me. So in normal ops, they were on a 3-shift rotation. That makes sense because the ship always has 1/3 of the crew already at stations. But going to 4 shifts would reduce that to 1/4 of the crew being at stations.
If anything you'd go to a two-shift schedule rotation if your intent was to make the ship war-ready. That way, half the crew is always at stations.
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
I give them credit. I really enjoyed the show and watched every episode, but if they just got rid of the fish, I probably wouldn’t have even noticed. I’m not sure I needed a whole in story explanation. Good on them for caring
I always liked the fish
The fact that anyone thinks in the future humans will give more of a damn about animals is pretty funny though
I'm glad Troi was finally wearing a uniform. She's an officer on board a Starship AND the crew (and their families) need to know that..
Now I'll have to watch that story arc again. This brings things together now 🙂
I always thought troy looked better in the uniform
How clever they put all that in Jellico's dialogue.😊
She was so much hotter in her Starfleet uniform
No cleavage, no like.
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The only thing I dislike about the changes was that they made it seem like it was secondary to what the actors wanted.. as if Troi was forced to change.. it would have been nicer if she commented that she preferred wearing the uniform.. For the fish it makes it seems like it was Picards touch to his room to have the fish... Picard should have asked to remove the fish.. maybe something along the lines of him freeing the fish somewhere..
It would made no sense since the fictional character CHOSE what she wanted to wear. She's paid to act, not direct.
I thought they were going to say Jellico’s actor made the demands. This was a cool way for them to explain some clean up on the show.
I really do love Captain Jelico. When I first watched the episode when I was younger I went with what the show was trying to say, that he’s kinda mean and unlikable. But like, I really like him. Great captain.
I’ve always hated him
I love that they transferred the blame to a temp character.
Totally makes sense. I could imagine Marina really wanted somewhat normal clothes instead of being stupidly sexualized.
Edit: Oops, spelled her name wrong 🤭
Agreed, then in the 7th season when they have single shots of her or dr crusher they put a soft glow to beautify them. Has to be network decisions
Producer and writing decisions, TBH. Despite the showing starting off somewhat progressive for its time and only getting more progressive as it went on, it was still a boys' club at the end of the day.
@@NewbieStarTrek I know; the more you learn, esp about the original guys😫😖
She started off wearing a uniform in the pilot episode. Granted, it was the "short" version with a tiny skirt, go-go boots, and no sleeves, but still, it was a uniform. I guess they thought body hugging spandex with deep cleavage was more appropriate. 😉
At least it built up to her character development - her promotion to Cmdr, taking a watch, being an actual officer.
I can imagine the scene now.
I approve of these changes, walks into ready rooms, Mr data where is Livingston?, his tank has been moved to your private quarters, fade to black.
I literally almost clapped and cheered when he made her put on a uniform. I was so sick of her walking around as eye candy and being so out of place.
Blasphemy. One must never be "sick" (such vulgar language) of her walking around as eye candy. It must be appreciated as the sublime gift that it is.
I had always thought they wanted Troi in that outfit to get do some of her chest and it was so weird that she was not in uniform. But when you see her in uniform it actually accentuates her body better than the first outfit.
You would think in the enlightened future that they would know that fish don't have human-like intelligence
You guys know the fish tank comes right back though, right? It's only gone for a single episode.
I'm all for Deanna wearing a uniform I just wish it was her own idea in the show and not Jellico's...
Hey! Salute when you talk about Jellico. The Enterprise was not supposed to be a cruise ship.
@@brianjlevineI’d never salute to that ass
@@brianjlevinethat’s RIGHT Gopher!!!
Picard to Riker: Number One take the Bridge, while I take a number two.