Is flying too expensive? - Thermal challenge - I tried to stay up for an hour
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2023
- Todays video was just nice to get up and enjoy the early morning air and just natter about flying. I'm definitely trying to expand my flying skillset and enjoying getting back into a bit of thermalling.
I enjoy sharing my passion for flying and sharing why I have ventured down certain paths. Paramotoring was a huge passion of mine and I hold the skills of flying them in high regard, but I needed a new challenge and flexwing flying has definitely given me many more challenges and opportunities.
Just Hangin RUclips link
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Anthony Vella's Channel:
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Paul Mockford's Channel:
/ @paranoob
I frequently get asked about the kit I use, all links or names are below.
My PeaBee radio and communications set up is:
ICARO SCARAB Helmet with MicroAvionics PM100 Bluetooth (Vlog modified by MicroAvionics)
www.microavionics.com/paramotor
My Airband radio ( I have the appropriate Licence) is :
www.microavionics.com/ Yaesu FT450 FTA .
Engine instruments:
Trailtech TTO Tech and CHT
Fuel gauge - Tiggy Aviation
Tiggy fuel flow and quantity device - Soon to be an upgrade coming out.
GPS
NAVITER OUDIE 5 PRO with FLARM
Electronic Conspicuity device
SkyEcho 2
Camera and Microphones:
Flight Briefing room
Video Camera 4K Camcorder ORDRO WiFi Ultra HD Vlog Camera and a ICE BLUE microphone
Flying cameras
GoPro 3+, GP6 and 7 with audio adaptor.
Camera Mounts/ cases
flybubble.com/flytec-bumblebee
www.flypureair.co.uk/store/Ca...
Flying Clothing:
FlyKandy Jacket and trousers
OZEE flying suit EXEAT and 30seven gloves
Sealskinz mittens
Editing software
Adobe Premier elements
Music - Epidemic Sounds - Subscription.
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Thanks for the shout out Giles 👌, fly high and far 😁🇦🇺
Hi Paul, I hope a few subs have gone your way. You'll have to look out for a few videos on a recent trip to Scotland.
Hi Giles, again very interesting video, I will enjoy talking about thermals with you. Thanks for your time today. 👍👍
My Pleasure Ged. Every day is a school day.
Fly safe tomorrow 👍👍
Looks like great fun!
It was definitely a trip of a lifetime.
Hi Giles Sorry I missed you at Eccles Newton. I was away to a wedding. I hear you had interesting landings. I fly a Quik from here hangared in red shed behind the caravan. Hope you enjoyed . Catch up with you sometime.
Hi Gary, gutted we missed you, it's a lovely strip and Eccles Newton will hopefully feature in the series of videos I'm planning to make the trip.
Just realised I hadn't commented on this one, Giles! Good fun there - I wouldn't mind betting that, on a really booming day, the burn figures could be reduced spectacularly.
Hi Dan, it's not compulsory to comment but your support is always appreciated. I'm sure it will take you back to your glider days.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Definitely not compulsory I know, but I like to keep the social side going! 👍
Back in the day, my Quantum used to thermal about as well as my Cavalier did.
Hi Paul, I'm sure the Cavalier had some form of lift capability😁. It's all about trying new things for me.
Good topic, flying in a flexwing is great fun for the $$$
Hi Doug, yes definitely good value for money. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I've been away on a flying trip.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 No worries, I've been busy as well. Hopefully you are all smiles. 😁
Hi Giles great video thank you. the 2 video links mention in your description dont work in my part of the world, Australia. is one of them the link to the aussie pilot you mentioned in the vid? Cheers
Hi Steeptakeoff, yes, have a look for the channel. Thank you for pointing out it doesn't work, not sure why, I'll have a look into it. Glad you are enjoyed the video.
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Thanks Mike, you must have enjoyed it for that many thumbs up. 😊
Great video, Giles. I really enjoyed seeing how you stayed up. I had wondered whether you would need to switch the engine off completely in order to detect the thermals, but clearly that’s not necessary. Cheers John
Hi John, it's all seat of the pants really. I had great fun.
Have you ever flown PG or HG? By far the best way to learn how to thermal...
Hi John, yes, I flew paragliders and paramotors for over a decade. I couldn't afford to do both now. A new paramotor set up is over £13k now. I've flown PG xc as well in Spain and the UK but only when there is a good retrieve 😁.
Paul and I met on a thermal course a couple of years ago. I fly with him every now and again and have made a brief cameo in one or two of his videos. He is on the coast and seams to get flying weather three times to our locations one, I'm very jealous but that did get me into Sub-70 so, not a bad result 😎. I try Thermaling in my sub-70 too, I find it harder than just the hang-glider. I think its the weight, sound and maneuverability. The next engine will have electric start, don't fancy rowing the pull starter to the ground 😨
P.S. Couldn't get Paul's link to work, below might?
www.youtube.com/@justhangin7186
Hi Blue, small world. Thanks for the link to his channel, I've updated my description.
Looks like fun, would have been good to see if you could stay up with the engine off.
Hi Tom, one day I'll pluck up the courage to turn it off.
Looks like there should have been some thermal streets.
If people want to fly for little money Gliding, Hanggliding, and paragliding are good places to start.
Hi Simon, I completely with your, the paragliding /hang glider side are good cheap ways of getting into the air. But on the powered side of things, it's just finding the right balance.
I love audio verio. I straighten as the lift gets stronger and tighten as the lift gets weaker and then when I have it even tighten a little a bit. Gaggle flying is always fun. Totally agree with you on the cost of flight, one additional thing I would add; the cost per hr reduces the more you fly as the insurance, hangar and club costs are devided into smaller amounts.
I definitely had a good read of Derek Piggott's book a few weeks. You should try thermalling you Kub and see how you get on 😁. I do agree with you R concep6of keeping the operating costs down, it was more about the new breed of microlights, they just have put microlight flying outside the scope of normal people.
That's why I want to get into flex wing. General aviation is ridiculously expensive. Looks like a perfect fun day ! You were hitting a few bubbles until cored a good boomer near the end. Thermals appear are much softer than what we have here in desert US. Perhaps it's the vegetation ? Do you see any dust devils in your part of the world ? Thanks for taking us up on such a nice day !
Hi Allan, it was quite a soft day for thermals but yes I can imagine uk thermals a not as, strong as the ones you would get. Yes we do get dust devils as I know they turn aircraft upside down. Good to see you back in the comments.
45 mph (cruising), at 1.58 gallons (liter conversion) is still ~28.5 mpg fuel efficiency, which is about the same as a small compact car in the US. So just think of it as driving for an hour vs flying for an hour. Which would you have more fun doing for the same cost?
Hi Matthew, I think that's an easy one, I love flying and would happily put the extra fuel in for this much fun. I just flown to Scotland in my Peabee and some of the views were amazing, no car will allow you to see them.
Thanks for the video Giles. I’m very interested in sub70 and thermal chasing.
Hi Tom, the Sub70 class has opened up my eye and have allowed me achieve lots of my flying dreams.
Thanks for showing thermaling. That looks like fun to me👍👍👍. I bet the gas consumption is very low at those throttle settings to.
Hi Gayle, I think I burnt less than 3 litres.
Great video! Fellow paraglider pilot here, and this video of yours is precisely why I want to get into nano trikes. Would it be hard to restart the engine if you shut if off completely? What if it was off for 2h why you thermaled out, can it be restarted in the air cold, or is there too much risk of that not working out? Thanks!
Hi Emanuel, welcome to the channel, these engines are great for starting when correctly primed but unfortunately they can't be primed from the seat. I've tried to find a way of remote priming but I never managed to design a practical system. I love thermalling (takes me back to my paragliding days) so I just do it with the engine on idle. I hope that answers your question.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 thanks for the response! That's good to know. The only reason I want one of these is to go up and thermal. So I would have to design a way to remote prime. Now I would normally think "I can design something for sure, even if this guy can't", but after watching many of your videos I know you're a great designer/tinkerer so if you can't figure it out, surely I won't either lol! I'm subscribed and look forward to more videos!
Great video, but all looks like too much hard work to me! 😅 Thermals are easy to find when you really don’t want them!!!
Hi Geoff, that is very true, when I started on my way back, I kept finding them, so I agree.
It would be fun to try a low throttle thermal cross country flight😁
Hi Gayle, I think we did that one by accident on our way to Scotland, it was a bit bouncy at times🤣.
Looked like ace fun Giles, personally I generally want to avoid thermals, not find them 🤣 With you on the crazy prices for some of the 3-axis microlights - 'only' £110k is frankly a joke to the vast majority of people and honestly, a bit of an insult ☹ Flexwings are definitely the 'cheapest' way into powered aircraft flight, but that doesn't make it 'cheap' in itself - but it does make it accessible to plebs like me 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Mike, I think East Fortune is definitely a flexwing hub on the east coast.
That was amazing, Giles. I know very little about thermals. How do you find them if they aren't on Sky Demon? 🤷🏼♂ 🤣Another vid on thermals might be good 👍🏻 👏👏
Hey
I´m a glider pilot, so I know a fair bit about thermals. We find them by looking at the clouds. The big fluffy clouds are formed by thermals. If the sky is blue we just fly until we find one. We detect the actual thermal by looking at the variometer and by feeling them. After a few hours of flying thermals you will get a feeling, "Hosenbodengefühl" in german (pants-bottom-feeling), when a thermal is coming even before the instruments show them.
…🤷🏻♂️ yup, can’t find them on SkyDemon either! What’s that all about!?! 😂
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Thank you Walter. I always wondered how you glider pilots stayed up there so long 👍
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Hi Walter, gliders are a wonderful way to learn about flying. I started learning to fly on K13 gliders back in 1994 and found it a wonderful way to fly and experience thermalling. How long have you been flying?
Hey Giles. I really enjoyed your video. Good luck staying in those thermals. No two thermals are the same.
The answer to your question is relative to how much disposable income a person has. The cost has really gone up here in the states. The cost of training has gone up. Ultralights, under Part 103 of the FAA regulations, were self regulated. We used to be able to train people to fly ultralights with a 2 seat ultralight and an exemption from the FAA that the 2 seater trike was used just for training ultralight pilots. There were instructors everywhere there was an ultralight. It's not like that anymore. We had ultralight instructors all over the place. Now, they are few and far between. It costs the instructors more to train pilots and naturally the cost is past on to the student.
The cost of trikes has gone up too. Manufactures had starter trikes - a lot like my Sabre Trike. Some builders just built simple trikes that were cheap, strong and safe. They were simple, portable and affordable. They were made of simple aircraft tubing, AN hardware, wheels and an engine. If a part broke, you could easily fix it. Plans were even made and sold to build your own trike (except the wing). Once the pilot got the flying fever, they would move on to buy a more expensive trike with all the bells and whistles much like the ones you get now. You can't find those starter trikes here in the States anymore. People that made trikes found they can make more money selling high dollar trikes than they could selling lots of low cost simple trikes. I believe the ultralight community shot themselves in the foot by getting the government involved and starting Sport Pilot licensing. There were so many changes and it hurt the people that just wanted to fly for fun. You can see it in the decrease of fly-ins here in the states.
Oh well. Enough of my ranting. I fly for fun and flying for me is cheap. That's my opinion.
Your certainly right about instructors being few and far between in the USA. I have to go to a different state to get training! But my Northwing ATF is still pretty bare bones flying👍👍
@@gaylembond8647 Mine is more barer. LOL!
Hi Wayne, we are all allowed to rant from time to time. You have some very valid points there as well. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I've been away on a 3 day flying trip and a retrieve.
Do you really need reserve on P-BEE ?
Hi Anees, yes and no. If its Sub70 but operating as Sub70 with reserve fitted then yes. I have actually removed mine only recently for a top box.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 hi Giles; I am not sure to understand the reason why you do not need a rescue parachute. Is it just a question of class/ weight? I fly a similar nanotrike : MTOW 170 kg (in France), without rescue parachute right now, but have the intention to get one, in case of wing failure for example.. Regards.
@@garp4l0q39 if the aircraft is a Sub70 class, ( no licence required to fly it, there is a clause that if you have a reserve fitted, your allowance increases to 75 kgs. I hope that helps.
@@GolfFoxtrot22 Giles, I understood that, but I still do not know if your opinion is that this kind of nanotrike does not need a rescue parachute. You removed yours, for a top box : this looks amaising for me. Despite the extra 5 kg that it gives , however a rescue parachute is less than 5 kg. My opinion is that a rescue could help (although I have not got one right now).
Good topic👍
Yep, not cheap by my standards. Economy of scale, we don't have the demand for someone to pump out 10000 units a year for 6k$.
My problem is here in Canada we don't have any manufacturing of any of the components. Even a wing manufactured here would be nice instead of 9k$ from the US.
Cheers
I'm guessing not many wing manufacturers over the pond? We only have one in the UK, the Aeros wings are made in EUROPE and still need to be shipped to England.
North Wing is the only one I'm aware of for north and south America
Yes it is to expensive and i hope it stays that way , you don't want flying being affordable because trust me i live on a council estate and while i really wish i was able to afford flying the thought of it being accessible to some of the people i have to live around just doesn't bare worth thinking about that said im sure that an amount unsavoury and unsuitable people are flying as i write. speak.
I think it all depends on the passion and desire to fly. If you really want to fly, you'll find away however, that tends to separate those that want to do it on a whim.
Where's your vario?
Hi Michael, it's in the Oudie GPS, the vertical back box on the front strut. Google Naviter Oudie 5 pro. I hope that helps.