Some Thoughts on the Retroid Pocket 4

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
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  • @Gooeyflames77
    @Gooeyflames77 8 месяцев назад +278

    I get people’s arguments about getting the odin 2 over this but the rp4 pro is one of my dream machines. A vita sized handheld that can play gc and ps2 has been in my wishlist for a while and I’m so happy it’s real. I’m definitely pre ordering this asap!

    • @ramy8700
      @ramy8700 8 месяцев назад +22

      That's fair, as long as it can play both PS2 and GC it's worth it. Also consider looking at the Odin Lite. Also $200 and same chipset

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 8 месяцев назад +1

      And it comes with lots of colour variations

    • @michaeltam4171
      @michaeltam4171 8 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, size is the matter.

    • @fab9566
      @fab9566 8 месяцев назад +6

      Pareil! Odin 2 est une excellente consoles mais on est à des niveaux de prix élevés. La dimension de la retroid pocket 4 est idéale et la performance est au RDV. à 199 euros elle va cartonner.

    • @suntorytimes1
      @suntorytimes1 8 месяцев назад

      @@fab9566Prepare to spend in the vicinity of 250€ though, between shipping and taxes.

  • @itsfarhan0.024
    @itsfarhan0.024 8 месяцев назад +212

    Can i say i just love how Russ conveys information in a very understandable way for someone who is new for retro consoles while also giving veterans of the space what they need to hear

    • @pepito69
      @pepito69 8 месяцев назад +1

      Subpar is my middle name 😎

    • @t.a.kalsekar
      @t.a.kalsekar 8 месяцев назад +1

      It’s just called effective communication 😊

    • @JesusKristov
      @JesusKristov 8 месяцев назад +4

      No you can't just say that. Remove your comment or the police will get involved

    • @pepito69
      @pepito69 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@JesusKristov 😱

    • @The-Fencing-Coach
      @The-Fencing-Coach 8 месяцев назад +3

      One of the hardest workers on RUclips. Always fair, always thorough, and frequent content.

  • @adamegan8352
    @adamegan8352 8 месяцев назад +43

    The 4 Pro really seems like what I’ve been waiting for in terms of a device worthy of an upgrade. My 2+ has been perfect for what i’ve wanted to do, other devices have been tempting but would either be too expensive or not have enough power to justify it for me. That translucent red model definitely has my attention lol.

    • @Statistic189
      @Statistic189 8 месяцев назад +2

      You’re better off spending the extra money and getting an Odin 2 lol

    • @christianbaker832
      @christianbaker832 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@Statistic189For someone who just wants to play up to PS2 and GC, I don’t see the justification for spending the extra $100 on the Odin 2 vs getting the RP4 Pro.

    • @Statistic189
      @Statistic189 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@christianbaker832 I do, compatibility of the chip itself. Dimensity doesn’t play well with emulation for one. And for 100$ you get way more battery life and up scaling past 720p. You can run them at 4k upscale.

    • @christianbaker832
      @christianbaker832 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@Statistic189 My brother owns the Odin Lite which has the Dimensity 900 and it plays great with emulation. We’ve played many GC and PS2 games as well. As for the battery, it’s supposed to be comparable. Personally I don’t need upscaling past 720p. It’s better than native either way. These are still supposed to be “retro” gaming. Again, I just don’t see the reason to spend the extra $100🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @christianbaker832
      @christianbaker832 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@Statistic189 If I’m gonna spend $300 plus I mine as well just spend a bit more and get a Steam Deck.

  • @Zetakun
    @Zetakun 8 месяцев назад +108

    I ended up getting Odin 2 but if I didn’t, this would be serious must get for me. I still love my old Retroid 3+

    • @ExGearUser
      @ExGearUser 8 месяцев назад +3

      not sure If I should go odin 2 still...looks good

    • @DndAJ4x
      @DndAJ4x 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@ExGearUser The biggest factor imo is if you want to emulate switch or not as snapdragon is highly optimized for the emulator but if not I'd definately go with the rp4 pro as it should run everything else (with select switch games included mostly lightweights and indies)

    • @Teremei
      @Teremei 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@ExGearUser this is $100 cheaper AND smaller which I like

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 8 месяцев назад +8

      Odin 2 with 6' screen is way better than RP4 with that small 4.7' screen

    • @epicnessbrian5295
      @epicnessbrian5295 8 месяцев назад +13

      the only reason someone should pick the retroid 4 over the odin 2 is if they want a more pocketable device.

  • @0525ohhwell
    @0525ohhwell 8 месяцев назад +27

    Awesome. This is pretty much the most I hoped for when the Odin 2 came out. The Pro looks like a real winner for a pocketable.

  • @EpicPrintingShop
    @EpicPrintingShop 8 месяцев назад +21

    I'm certainly looking forward to making a grip/case for them!

    • @iTheBeep
      @iTheBeep 8 месяцев назад +4

      🐐

  • @maka8008
    @maka8008 8 месяцев назад +14

    I think the 4 pro will be my first dabble into the world of handheld emulation. There is just so many options, and I would love to play up to ps2 with little to no issues. Anyway, have a great christmas/holiday everyone.

    • @wd99999
      @wd99999 7 месяцев назад

      Same here, my wife just got me a cheapo $30 unit off Amazon (basically only good for Dr.Mario, Double Dragon and Excitebike) now I’m researching them like crazy lol. The 4+ sounds like a great machine

  • @palaceofpolish8617
    @palaceofpolish8617 8 месяцев назад +10

    I have been into the idea of a hand-held GameCube/wii device for well over ten years. I remember, waaay back in the day, when youtubers were taking GameCube consoles apart and reconfiguring the actual hardware into a somewhat portable design. Many of those designs still required the game disc. I never thought we would get to this point in handheld gaming.
    I was excited about the rp3+ because it was so close to being capable of what I wanted. I knew the next thing retroid put out would be "the one" for me.

    • @deg6788
      @deg6788 8 месяцев назад

      Same here

  • @gtssage
    @gtssage 8 месяцев назад +27

    Between my retroid 3+ and Oled steam deck, I don’t feel like I’m missing out by not getting any of the retroid 4 skews. Looks to be another great device for those looking for it.

    • @steelscooter
      @steelscooter 8 месяцев назад +1

      Skus - stock keeping units.

    • @jonathaningram8157
      @jonathaningram8157 8 месяцев назад

      If you have the steam deck you don't need anything else. Maybe something more compact to play and that's it. I have the 3+ and the 2S and wish I have a deck oled.

    • @kenkaneki666
      @kenkaneki666 7 месяцев назад

      I have the steam deck and it’s way too uncomfortable with a poor battery life. I’m considering this or an Odin 2.

  • @Honey-Buffalo
    @Honey-Buffalo 8 месяцев назад +81

    I literally had just ordered the RP3+ as my first retro handheld like 5 hours before the news dropped. Luckily, I'll be able to return it and I'm going for the 4 pro instead.
    I'm glad they seemed to have addressed all the complaints about the RP3+. I'm also super happy they kept the same form factor rather than increasing the screen size like so many seem to be asking for. It seems like there are a ton of options with bigger screens like odin or steam deck but none of those are as portable as the RP3/4.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 8 месяцев назад +2

      I just ordered an rg405m a few hours ago XD. Finally decided on that one over the RP3+ but now this makes me question everything again....
      guess I could return it and wait for this rp4 but if I get in my hands tommorow I'm gonna want to play with it XD

    • @spencerdunn6933
      @spencerdunn6933 8 месяцев назад +7

      Lol I've been putting off buying a handheld all fall because I knew somebody was gonna announce somethin' good round the holidays. This is what I was waiting for.

    • @syferz
      @syferz 8 месяцев назад +3

      At 4.7inch, I really hope they can increase the screen size to 5.2inch whenever they get to RP5, as Switch games could benefit greatly from the half inch screen increase, and I think of the Vita's 5inch screen with almost identical dimensions, thinking that maybe just moving to an OLED could allow them to shrink the bezels and only slightly increase the actual size of the device. I do love my RP3+ though, I think they nailed the form factor, I'll be getting a 4 Pro and eventually a RP5.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@spencerdunn6933 well rub it in why don't you XD
      anyway they haven't even announced a release date yet and I'll be playing my new handheld tomorrow so HAH! (i'm coping hard here bro XD)

    • @1234_Flux
      @1234_Flux 8 месяцев назад

      I've had my RP3+ for a few weeks now, I've got most of it setup now. I was thinking about buying the Odin 2 as well anyway.

  • @CountRichard
    @CountRichard 8 месяцев назад +9

    Here's hoping they make a Flip 2. Hopefully they'll add a bottom screen as well, so that we can properly emulate upscaled DS and 3DS games

  • @shade20x64
    @shade20x64 8 месяцев назад +46

    This is exactly what I wanted from the RP4. It looks like they addressed every issue I had with the RP3. I'm in for the Pro model.

    • @creaturecore13
      @creaturecore13 8 месяцев назад +4

      Not for me as I think it's still a little under powered. The odin pro was still too weak to run ps2 and gamecube well. (And this is about the same power) It ran some games, and ran others with major tweaking of settings, and others poorly. For this to make sense I would have liked it to be able to handle ps2 without tinkering. But right now the odin 2 is the only handheld that can do that. I am happy that this uses the new sticks on the odin 2 and the retroid 2s.

    • @shade20x64
      @shade20x64 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@creaturecore13 The D1100 should be able to handle PS2 well. You just aren't going to get the crazy upscaling ability like you can with the Odin 2. But on a device this size, that's perfectly fine.

    • @creaturecore13
      @creaturecore13 8 месяцев назад

      @@shade20x64 that would be fine for me, but there is no proof of that yet. There arent many videos of the 1100 on youtube showing emulation. If it actually runs as well as the 1200, yeah its a must buy as for 200 you cover ps2 and gamecube and everything older

    • @tommygeary1931
      @tommygeary1931 8 месяцев назад

      @@creaturecore13 im not sure i can trust ayn after the original odin had the worst analog sticks ever, plug crazy input lag. makes any action games tough to play, i'm stuck using it as an RPG machine

    • @shade20x64
      @shade20x64 8 месяцев назад

      @@creaturecore13 Fair enough.

  • @Brian-el6yz
    @Brian-el6yz 8 месяцев назад +9

    Loving my Odin 2, I don't see a crazy reason to go for this RP4, but as for the Odin 2 bulky build, I've found it to work really well with Switch cases, so if anyone want's a rough comparison, it's just about the size of a switch, with the back ergonomic grips to add a tad more to it.

  • @greenshell5735
    @greenshell5735 8 месяцев назад +59

    Having a gamecube/ps2 that fits in my pocket had always been my dream handheld so im incredibly excited for this to come out

    • @War-Zone349
      @War-Zone349 8 месяцев назад

      It's not going to play all of those games at 100% yet. You'll need something like the Steam Deck for it still.

    • @SameriddAndCave
      @SameriddAndCave 8 месяцев назад +3

      Just use your phone with a backbone.

    • @roguegeek
      @roguegeek 8 месяцев назад +3

      If your dream is having a pocketable GC/PS2, this isn’t it. It’s close, but it isn’t it.

    • @leonardomatheus1888
      @leonardomatheus1888 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@War-Zone349it will

    • @chimerschang
      @chimerschang 8 месяцев назад

      @@SameriddAndCave What if my phone can't even run SNES at full speed?

  • @disipleiam84
    @disipleiam84 8 месяцев назад +30

    Really appreciate you leveraging your knowledge and experience to now look ahead to these devices. Retroid knocked it out of the park with the 2S, so I'm hoping they continue to be the device that all other devices within respective price points can aspire. Always excellent content.

  • @The1Giz
    @The1Giz 8 месяцев назад +3

    God Damn Russ. That handheld comparison chart was a knockout move.

  • @alfredocanas6802
    @alfredocanas6802 8 месяцев назад +6

    I think The RP4 Pro is a no brainer with all those extra features. I will hopefully pull the trigger for this model next year.

  • @Michirin9801
    @Michirin9801 8 месяцев назад +21

    It looks like they FINALLY perfected it! This is like, *Everything* I wanted from an emulation handheld!
    Symmetrical sticks, SNES button layout and colours, sensible Select and Start button placement, Android, full speed GC, Wii and PS2, US$200 or less, Smaller than a Switch Lite, 16:9 screen for PSP and Wii games (I don't mind the black bars on the sides for everything else) Yeah, I think I may well go for this, but not immediately, I'll wait and see...

    • @scrub_jay
      @scrub_jay 8 месяцев назад +3

      Full speed on those is not a given until we have them in hand. Still looks like a fantastic device for the price

    • @theresnothinghere59
      @theresnothinghere59 8 месяцев назад

      he never said you will be able to play GC or PS2

  • @gatebreaker44
    @gatebreaker44 8 месяцев назад +3

    I'm excited to hear some rumblings on the anbernic rg406 sometime soon as a consequence of this

  • @dawsoncjames
    @dawsoncjames 8 месяцев назад +7

    Even owning the Odin 2, I still want the RP4 pro. I'm so greedy. I get excited about the tech as it becomes more and more capable.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 8 месяцев назад

      Why do you want the downgrade for a smaller screen

    • @dawsoncjames
      @dawsoncjames 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@hassanger8128 portability and device 'adorableness'.

    • @CarlosDiaz-fs6cv
      @CarlosDiaz-fs6cv 8 месяцев назад

      Same dawgie. I got me 2s, love the size, but I wish it was more powerful.

    • @jonathaningram8157
      @jonathaningram8157 8 месяцев назад

      How long do you actually spend playing on the device you own?

  • @alejorag
    @alejorag 8 месяцев назад +9

    I've had a non plus Pocket 3 for a while now and I LOVE it so I'm seriously looking forward to the 4 Pro, PS2 era was my favorite era so this is like a dream come true to me. I'll gladly keep my good old 3 as a backup or as a show piece.

    • @Zodiacman16
      @Zodiacman16 8 месяцев назад +1

      Same here, only reason I want to upgrade is for GC and PS2, so if Retroid can deliver here that's basically my perfect machine.

    • @alejorag
      @alejorag 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Zodiacman16 I feel you man, if the RP4 Pro delivers I feel like I'll spend basically the rest of my life navigating the gigantic PS2/GC library I didn't get to fully experience as a kid lol. I know they've been easy af to emulate on a PC for a while now but I'm a sucker for handhelds, I just love the format way more.

    • @jonathaningram8157
      @jonathaningram8157 8 месяцев назад

      you didn't have any issue with the screen yet ?

    • @alejorag
      @alejorag 8 месяцев назад

      @@jonathaningram8157 Not at all, it's still looking and working like day 1. Did you have issues with the screen in yours?

    • @jonathaningram8157
      @jonathaningram8157 8 месяцев назад

      @@alejorag Yeah I had to replace it after few months and a guy on discord had to do it 3 times this year. Some tiny vertical lines start to appears.

  • @johnnyxxx31
    @johnnyxxx31 8 месяцев назад +1

    We all just gonna glaze over the fact that Russ said he was in his early 20s when PS2 came out? Dude is a vampire and has not aged even a little

  • @jorgeferreira4983
    @jorgeferreira4983 8 месяцев назад +65

    I think it's amazing that we're getting all these devices and see competition rising as the price falls..
    But for me what we are really needing now is evolution on the emulator's side!

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 8 месяцев назад +12

      Good software matters a LOT.

    • @sergiodetter1417
      @sergiodetter1417 8 месяцев назад +5

      we are also seeing evolution on the software side, if you follow the emulation scene you know there are lots of people doing a really good work for the comunity

    • @jorgeferreira4983
      @jorgeferreira4983 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@sergiodetter1417 i know that and i really support the effort they make in bringing all this to our hands and for free... What I'm saying is that we are not needing more powerful devices because they reached the limit of what is possible to emulate! That is why i think we need to get a step ahead on the software side!

    • @lastonewon
      @lastonewon 8 месяцев назад +5

      Successful PS3 emulation is tough but it's coming, SD Can do it

    • @stormranger528
      @stormranger528 8 месяцев назад +2

      A user friendly all encompassing emulation station

  • @jddiggy2343
    @jddiggy2343 8 месяцев назад +6

    I was planning on getting the retroid pocket 3+ as my PS2 emulator in February or March. Since I just got the RG405v and now I'm really glad I made that purchase I'm happy with 405v and now by the time I wanted the RP3+ I can get the RP4Pro and have an even better emulation experience (hopefully) which makes me really excited. I'm probably one of the few people the timing in this announcement and speculated release actually works out for. I'll definitely wait and watch for retro game core as well as a few other RUclipsrs to review the device first but all reports show this is going to be a great device!!!!

    • @trashpandacus
      @trashpandacus 7 месяцев назад

      How is the GC, PS2 and 3DS emulation on the 405v? Iove the form factor but I'm waiting for Anbernic to release the next iteration which will hopefully be as powerful as the RP4 Pro.
      I have a Miyoo for everything GB, GBC, GBA and now just want something for PSP, NDS, 3DS and bonus if it can run GC & PS2 well.

  • @Bozzyshy
    @Bozzyshy 8 месяцев назад +10

    Having an ROG Ally means I'll never buy one of these probably ever again yet I still watch all these videos fascinated with what these companies put out there and how far along the retro gaming handheld market is coming

    • @MrJustek
      @MrJustek 8 месяцев назад +1

      You might want to consider one of these for the fact you it fits nicely into your pockets. Also do you really want to use a rog ally to play super old GameCube games? It's more fitting on a smaller more efficient console. Leave the Rog for the heavy lifting ;)

    • @spencerdunn6933
      @spencerdunn6933 8 месяцев назад

      Is the Ally actually portable? Everytime I see one of the heavy hitters they as big as a bat.

    • @Bozzyshy
      @Bozzyshy 8 месяцев назад

      @@spencerdunn6933 I take a bag everywhere with me so for me it is

    • @Bozzyshy
      @Bozzyshy 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrJustek for me I always have a bag with me anyway and I can have everything together with me with my ally modern games and retro all saves etc I find it convenient just grabbing one system for everything never have to compromise and leave some systems at home with me when I leave

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 8 месяцев назад

      I want to buy ROG Ally.
      Does it come with emulators installed?
      If not, how do you install them?
      Which emulator is compatible?
      Can I play Nintendo Switch Games on it?
      There is a good deal on BestBuy now for $399.
      Thank you...

  • @geekweidman
    @geekweidman 8 месяцев назад +1

    I saw the announcement and was more than thrilled you made this video. Thank you 🎉

  • @homerjay424
    @homerjay424 8 месяцев назад +12

    The 4 will be disruptive at the 150 price point...there are a bunch of t618 machines at different form factors at 150 and above. The 4 kinda forces the t618 to lower in price to compete. Heck, I could see Anbernic dump the 505 to $100 usd, which is insane...
    The 4 pro is pretty much all by itself as Russ said...great video.

  • @Teremei
    @Teremei 8 месяцев назад +27

    I'm so used to the retroid ecosystem and have great experiences with it. So as long as it plays PS2 smoothly I'm going to love it! Like with Pocket 4 I don't have to learn how to flash an entire front end on it, it already has the retroid front end which I'm used to.

    • @Edwinschuur
      @Edwinschuur 8 месяцев назад

      After Russ's recommendation for RP3+ Daijisho is definitely worth it to try out.

    • @ramy8700
      @ramy8700 8 месяцев назад +1

      I hoped for this too. Unfortunately I doubt it. The Odin 1 Pro is more powerful and it also struggled with most PS2 games.

    • @mattdavis9601
      @mattdavis9601 8 месяцев назад

      I game on an LG V35. It's got an 845 like the Odin 1 Pro; but, no fan cooling so endurance isn't the best when playing PS2. Even when starting at room temperature it's always struck me as odd what PS2 games run well and what don't. Like; "NFL 2K5" runs great with a few tweaks and its predecessors are even better. Meanwhile all of the EA Sports gridiron games I've tried (Madden, NCAA, and Arena) are a disaster.

    • @kevtn8
      @kevtn8 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ramy8700RP4 Pro is more powerful than Odin Pro 1 though. Like Russ says it should on paper handle the complete library of PS2 /GC maybe even most at 2x. If Yuzu ever gets more optimized even some decent Switch emulation too.

    • @ramy8700
      @ramy8700 8 месяцев назад

      @@kevtn8 crossing my fingers 🤞, this price point would be nice

  • @rushmore3927
    @rushmore3927 8 месяцев назад +10

    Waiting for the Flip 2.

  • @NeroVingian40
    @NeroVingian40 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ah, if it was an old iPhone screen (I don’t know any screen out there that has that 750x1334 resolution other than the older iPhones), then that is a very good screen. It’s an LCD, but it’s the best of the best of LCDs, iPhone’s old LCDs are very good. The oldest device that uses this screen is the iPhone 6, and the last iPhone that use it is the iPhone SE 2022.
    A Dimensity 1100 has an equivalent performance with a Snapdragon 865. The first Odin came with a Snapdragon 845.

  • @A.S.Bridges
    @A.S.Bridges 7 месяцев назад +1

    Holy crap.... I'm brand new to this pocket emulation scene and I feel like a kid on a candy store. Your expertise and delivery are so accessible that a completely green newby like myself can follow along and understand. What an amazing age of handheld gaming we live in, my mind is absolutely blown. I'm honestly so glad I've been ignorant to this incredible community until now because this Retroid 4pro sounds like the perfect starting point for my portable retro needs. Absolutely remarkable. New subscriber right here. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out on your upcoming videos for sure. Great stuff! Thank you so much for sharing your passion! Cheers!

  • @CameronDunn
    @CameronDunn 8 месяцев назад +5

    I finally bought a 2S during their Black Friday sale to replace my 2+ (the button placement on the 3 and 3+ were too wonky for me), but if I hadn't I definitely would have picked one of these up. It seems like the perfect handheld for me.

  • @santiniperico8627
    @santiniperico8627 8 месяцев назад +2

    I got my Odin2 just the other day and I love it so much but good for retroid.

  • @rubenloza1920
    @rubenloza1920 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the update, been looking to update my handheld for a few months now and this one looks like the one I am putting on the list. Looking forward to the review from you for the final call.

  • @e46love
    @e46love 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very glad they're keeping the dpad located above the joystick

  • @Peratohtori
    @Peratohtori 8 месяцев назад +16

    I've been holding out for a new handheld, and to me, the RP4 pro seems to hit most of the bases at once
    I'll still wait for the reviews when it comes out, but there's a good chance this is what I've been waiting for

  • @jake-n-g
    @jake-n-g 8 месяцев назад +9

    I’m gonna be really torn on RP4 Pro vs Odin 2. I know there’s a decent price difference, but both are really enticing. Won’t complain about having options though! The emulator space is in such an awesome spot right now. This was basically the dream during my GamePark32 days.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 8 месяцев назад

      Well, there is a huge difference in the screen size

    • @lastonewon
      @lastonewon 8 месяцев назад +9

      The only reason why you would want a RP4 over an Odin 2 is portability and pocketability. The Odin 2 is a much more powerful device

    • @jake-n-g
      @jake-n-g 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, still deciding and screen size is part of it. The Odin 2 would be nice for the bigger screen, especially if I end up just playing it around the house. If I go for portability, RP 4 seems a bit more practical, and the lower price point is nice.

    • @oohhno8948
      @oohhno8948 8 месяцев назад +2

      Do you prefer D-Pad or Joystick first?

    • @jake-n-g
      @jake-n-g 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@oohhno8948 Good point to add, ty. D-pad first for the older retro games and anything not 3D. But I do want to play a lot of Dreamcast & Gamecube on whichever I get, so would still want comfortable sticks.

  • @UeharaM
    @UeharaM 8 месяцев назад +1

    The moment they announced the Retroid Pocket 2S I had a hunch that it was in preparation for the 4th instalment. The fact that the RP2S has analog trigger buttons and R3/L3 functions despite not running that much games that uses them was a clear sign of it being a proof of concept, kinda like how the RP2+ was for the RP3.

  • @mn2361
    @mn2361 8 месяцев назад +2

    As a RP3+ user, i have to say that changin aethersx2 setting and using an eternal cooling vent, i'm able to play gran turismo 4 for ps2 at almost 100% speed.
    But knowing before the improvement by the cooling vent, back that day i would buy the ayn odin. So for those who are interested on RP4 i suggest to check the performances before the purchase.
    Hope this was helpful

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 8 месяцев назад

      The chipset is comparable to an Odin Pro. I have t played it in ages but it ran every ps2 game I threw at it. If you want a pocket PS2, this seems like a no brainer.

  • @PavoneSoftworks
    @PavoneSoftworks 8 месяцев назад +5

    If the 4 pro can do 3DS emulation at at least 1x, I'd definitely go for that. Gamecube and 3DS are my favorites and the analog triggers are something they should've had by the RP3 imo

    • @zuko9085
      @zuko9085 8 месяцев назад

      I'm probably the same. I need gamecube and 3ds. The 3ds library is incredible but it can only handle GBA or maybe SNES on the New 3ds locally. Would love to have gamecube and 3ds on a system my kids can use.

  • @ladams391
    @ladams391 8 месяцев назад +13

    Personally, I'm not really into playing systems like Gamecube and PS2 on a handheld, '90s era games like sprite-based stuff and early 3D rpgs and such like you'd see on the PS1 and the systems that came before it feel much better to play on a handheld than the more demanding high-speed 3D stuff that became more common in the '00s, so I'm not really looking for anything more powerful than the RGB30 I'm pretty sure I'm getting for Christmas. That said, I am quite interested in the prospect of maybe picking up a used RP3/3+ for a good price from someone who upgraded to the 4 or 4 Pro, mostly just for the widescreen aspect ratio, the generally good build quality of RP devices, and access to the Android ecosystem. I do think that the shift in business model is a good idea for Retroid, its reassuring for customers who felt burned by the release of the 3+ and additionally it will allow them to more easily do what I'm pretty sure they're doing here: price the base and pro models in such a way that for most people it won't make much sense to get the base model when the pro is a better value proposition.

  • @Owens777
    @Owens777 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is the video I've been waiting for. Ya just give the most common sense perspective in a convoluted, newer gaming space.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @mrgman1228
    @mrgman1228 8 месяцев назад +1

    "handheld PS2/Gamecube device under $200" Exactly... Definitely going to have to get the Pro

  • @rometherevenant8749
    @rometherevenant8749 8 месяцев назад +1

    I don't care that I bought the Odin 2 pro. I still want the pocket 4. I love the form factor of this device too

  • @janX9
    @janX9 8 месяцев назад

    It's okay Retroid take your time. Do it right.
    I'll be here when you're ready for pre-order.

  • @mryouseef
    @mryouseef 8 месяцев назад +3

    I received my RP3+ today 😅.
    I knew that RP4 is on the way but I expected a different form factor.
    RP4 resolved what made me hastate the RP3+.
    Sticks, Analog triggers, Home/Start/Select buttons placement.
    I can return mine but i got it for $107 shipped. Half the price of the Pro excluding shipping/Tax

    • @suhtangwong
      @suhtangwong 8 месяцев назад

      It's OK, I waited a month to get my rp3 then 5 days later they release the rp3+ 🤦🏼‍♂️ I got both...

    • @mryouseef
      @mryouseef 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@suhtangwongYeah will keep it and enjoy the experience.
      Either way there is no clear info when RP4 will ship.
      And if I want to play GC or PS2 I will use my steam deck.

  • @tamethegiant891
    @tamethegiant891 7 месяцев назад

    Got mine ordered. You got me so pumped up for it! Cannot wait!!

  • @frobonetic
    @frobonetic 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was already looking at getting a RP 3+ but now I'm definitely saving for a RP 4Pro

  • @leemacklin2948
    @leemacklin2948 8 месяцев назад +3

    I think RP4 Pro is pretty much the sweet spot as far as emulation handhelds go for now. PS3/XBox360 is a good bit down the road on handhelds, so any additional power is a bit over kill. The PS2 and GC run at 480, so upscale to 720 on this screen should look good (anything more is also a bit overkill?).

  • @rickycole5303
    @rickycole5303 7 месяцев назад +2

    Bruh I've watch this video 20 times
    I'm really excited to get my 4 pro.
    It's gonna be my first one

  • @KevinNaui-jn9hh
    @KevinNaui-jn9hh 8 месяцев назад +1

    I want to buy this then travel back in time and give to my 8 years old self when I was just watching my neighbors playing all the games in their house like n64, gc, ps1/ps2 era . They only let me watch but not play. 😢

  • @fellowninja
    @fellowninja 8 месяцев назад +2

    I think that RP4+ is going to be the go-to. The Odin 2 Pro is insane, too, and it'll probably feel more premium in comparison. It's all about its ability to play GameCube and PS2, because that's what you can't get with something that is cheaper: RG35XX+ and Miyoo Mini+ are the best price-to-playability for the PlayStation, but there are more premium devices that can as well. So, maybe this will be the bottom end for a device that can play the PS2 catalogue, with more premium models like the Odin 2 and Ayaneo Pocket Air.

  • @ben5676755
    @ben5676755 8 месяцев назад

    This is what I've been waiting for. Super excited for it.

  • @wordsmith451
    @wordsmith451 8 месяцев назад

    I just ordered a Pro for Europe and it only cost $216USD including shipping. It seems to greatly vary from company to company and device to device, so I always post prices. Sometimes you'll be paying an extra $30-40 for shipping and taxes to Europe, which greatly changes the value proposition, especially for budget devices. I'm happy to see here that the price is reasonable.

  • @MrMo0nlight
    @MrMo0nlight 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Pimax Portal Retro is also currently priced at $199. I wonder how it compares. I know it still has that segmented "d-pad" despite the non-removable controllers.

  • @JimPanzeeEsq
    @JimPanzeeEsq 8 месяцев назад

    Doh! Loved the colour buttons on the transparent model.

  • @bryanbeckett869
    @bryanbeckett869 8 месяцев назад +1

    Depending how these play out, I’m buying the Pro when I get back from Japan in February. This is exactly what I wanted.
    Button placement - perfect.
    Analogue triggers - perfect.
    New analogue sticks - perfect.
    Edit: I love how even though this dude has the best Steam Deck and it’s his go-to, he still is really loving these lower priced devices for us all. There’s no elitism around “just get the best spec Steam Deck”. I don’t quite want that much power. I just want Dreamcast/N64/PS2/GC handheld for occasional retro gaming.

  • @creaturecore13
    @creaturecore13 8 месяцев назад +3

    if this processor can play up to ps2 with no tinkering even without upscaling its a must buy for me, if not its a pass. The odin pro was too weak to do that and the odin 2 is too expensive when i can just do what ever i need too on the win mini. But seperating the ps2 and under library on such a small handheld would be real nice. I guess we will see when the 1100 is tested

  • @thehorsefromGOTs8
    @thehorsefromGOTs8 8 месяцев назад +4

    I wasn't a huge fan of the buttons or dpad on the rp3+ but I REALLY wasn't a fan of the start and select button locations, I had somehow forgotten they were on the top until now. also I'm a bit disappointed there's no front facing speakers this time either.
    Also they said no RP4+ but they didn't say annnnnything about RP4S 😉

  • @SmashEnigma1
    @SmashEnigma1 8 месяцев назад

    If I had Russ’s voice for Google Maps directions I’d never get angry in the car again

  • @user.asleep
    @user.asleep 8 месяцев назад +2

    I hope they would come up with one that has the same specs as the Pro version but in a RP2S form factor. I just love its retro design especially in 16bit colorway.

  • @Briansawilddowner
    @Briansawilddowner 8 месяцев назад +4

    I’d been holding off on getting my first “real” emulator (one that costs more than $40) because i didn’t feel like any of them were quite where i wanted them to be to be worth my money. RP4 Pro looks like it may fit the bill. I’m gonna wait until you’re able to review one though.

  • @alexv3375
    @alexv3375 8 месяцев назад +1

    Considering it's got the JP/EU SNES colour scheme - grey, with the black control sticks/pads and multicoloured buttons - that I like available, it can run GameCube and PS2 well, _and_ it's got all the buttons on the front? Yes, please! If it can run _Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic_ like my old GPD XD can, then it'll be a definite buy.

  • @JosilyneTwigg
    @JosilyneTwigg 8 месяцев назад +3

    I would love to see a Retroid Pocket Flip +/Pro/2
    The clamshell handhelds have by far been my favorite, and the retroid pocket flip is my favorite of them so far
    Id like a retroid flip that has dual screens for DS, 3Ds, and WiiU emulation
    Obviously this (most likely) isnt happening anytime soon
    But its sometging neat to think about

  • @ZeHamberglar
    @ZeHamberglar 8 месяцев назад

    Can't wait for the Retroid Pocket 4+ to come out soon.

  • @Cariocekus
    @Cariocekus 8 месяцев назад

    Might finally be getting a Retroi Pocket now. Pro looking really really appealing.

  • @cincyfan987
    @cincyfan987 8 месяцев назад +1

    Been waiting for an affordable ps2/GameCube device. Hope it performs well.

  • @TacticalPower88
    @TacticalPower88 8 месяцев назад +2

    4 Pro definitely looks like the move at $200. Seems like that sweet spot that could realistically satisfy most retro gamer's 'up to Gamecube/PS2' needs reliaby enough. After that, prices get noticeably steeper for dimishing returns if you're not someone looking to do anything crazy extra like run Xenia on the go.

  • @thatsgoodpocky
    @thatsgoodpocky 8 месяцев назад

    That chart showing price and relative performance is very useful. Thanks a lot Russ!

  • @concept226
    @concept226 8 месяцев назад +1

    Phheeww!!! I'm glad that I sold my Pocket 3 Plus a couple of weeks ago, I expect the prices will come down on those soon. I think this will be great for playing Ps2/GameCube games. It will probably be what I hoped the 3plus would be. A slightly bigger screen would have been nice. But I get why they are keeping the same screen. It will keep costs down and allow it to still be pocketable.

  • @brogersdesign
    @brogersdesign 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just jumped in & got the RP3+. Great device & my first Android emulator. After some reviews for the RP4pro I may make the jump & get my 9 year old into retro gaming with the older device.

  • @Joker-pf7ih
    @Joker-pf7ih 8 месяцев назад +1

    Loved my RP3+, was definitely on track to get an RP4… then the Odin 2 was announced… then the steam deck OLED was announced… the steam deck has taken over as the best way to play everything

  • @matthewseleski7795
    @matthewseleski7795 8 месяцев назад

    I just pre-ordered the 4 pro in ice blue... I love the size of the retroid pocket 3 and always wanted more power so sold for me

  • @GojiGuy
    @GojiGuy 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just bought the 2S (the higher end model was on sale for $99) and I'm not at all mad this got announced so soon. The 2S is perfect for me. A 4:3 480p screen means minimal to zero letterboxing for the games I want to play and Dreamcast looks exceptional because the actual game res meets the screen res perfectly.
    Honestly, I'd only be interested in the 4/Pro if it can do GameCube and PS2 and can do it with a 4:3 (or 1:1) screen. I'm not interested in widescreen games since PS2 and GC were really 4:3 systems anyways.

  • @enjoygary
    @enjoygary 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Pimax Portal retro is on sale for $150 right now. That device has a Snapdragon 845.

  • @shinossd113
    @shinossd113 8 месяцев назад +1

    if i didn't already get my odin 2 the RP4 pro would've been my first android handheld

  • @benji_san
    @benji_san 8 месяцев назад +9

    I was waiting for this announcement ever since the Odin 2 dropped, I chose RP3+ over Odin 1 so i wanted to get RP4 again, but i think the move is to just get the Odin 2, if it runs up to Switch games then i mean, what more do you possibly want out of an android device? I think im confident in making a purchase now

    • @mdariff006
      @mdariff006 8 месяцев назад

      for now just get the odin 2, u not only can play some nintendo switch games, u also can play psvita games…i bought the odin pro 2 256gb clear blue and some nintendo switch games i try play very well, now currently trying and testing psvita games

    • @mattdavis9601
      @mattdavis9601 8 месяцев назад

      Counterpoint: Where are you going to play it at? If it's primarily at home then the Odin 2 makes a ton of sense. If you do a lot of gaming while riding mass transit, or maybe during that time after lunch but before your lunch break is over, then the smaller physical size of the Pocket 4 makes a lot of sense. For me the Pocket 4 would be used anywhere that I currently game on my smartphone, or before that, anywhere where I'd have used a GBA or PSP back in the day.

    • @benji_san
      @benji_san 8 месяцев назад

      @@mdariff006 i genuinely didn't know you could play Vita, i mean the hardware is capable but i didnt think theres emulation for it. Wow, game changing

  • @I4get42
    @I4get42 8 месяцев назад +2

    Heck ya 😃. I'm glad they made a significant improvement, but didn't go too powerful/ expensive. Don't want to leave a hole in the market for folks who aren't looking to spend $300+

  • @thomaswillians5714
    @thomaswillians5714 8 месяцев назад +2

    RP4 Pro is really a good price/performance console and also with a very good form factor

  • @XVa-uj8m
    @XVa-uj8m 8 месяцев назад +12

    Retroid seems to be the benchmark for these emulation handhelds under $200. It would be nice to see them offer a special model called the Retroid OLED at $200 with Retroid 4's hardware or when 5 comes. All these old consoles were originally played on CRT which offers perfect color reproduction while LCD's gray out when the picture goes black.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 8 месяцев назад +4

      I'm guessing OLED will be the next natural progression, but maybe it'll take a little time to filter down into the cheap devices. This is using an iPhone 6 screen, and the iPhone X finally got an OLED screen back in 2017.
      Although I think around 2007, Samsung first launched a OLED mobile screen for phones. Sony released a OLED screen with the Vita back in 2014. The Vita screen is used in one of the Anbernic devices the RG405M, I believe? So I guess it's feasible for the next Retroid Device to do it cheapish. If not, then definitely down the line in a few years.

  • @mitchthepreacher1512
    @mitchthepreacher1512 8 месяцев назад

    Holding out for the Flip Pro/Flip 2. 2024 is already shaping up to be ANOTHER good year of retro handhelds!

  • @Mythrand
    @Mythrand 8 месяцев назад +1

    I waited a long time for this anjouncement and even considered buying the 3+ last week. I am SO glad I waited!! The 4Pro is going to be "the device" hands down.

    • @K3nVV
      @K3nVV 8 месяцев назад

      ...for this price point, I agree

  • @imafgc
    @imafgc 8 месяцев назад +2

    the 4 pro sounds like exactly what I've been waiting for, but unsure if I should pre-order or wait for impressions videos

  • @AspaceRON
    @AspaceRON 8 месяцев назад

    I was one of the dummies that bought the RP3 and the RP3+ came out right after I got it. I’ve been holding off upgrading, waiting for the RP4 for a long time now and I’m so glad I did. I love the fact they’re releasing the 4 and 4 Pro at the same time. Is anyone else wondering where the yellow and black color is or is it just me?

  • @Heldermaior
    @Heldermaior 8 месяцев назад

    That clear transparent shell with traffic light buttons looks really good...

  • @kevtn8
    @kevtn8 8 месяцев назад +1

    Icing on cake for me would removable battery compartment similar to Rg35XX Plus or Miyoo Mini. That can really extend the life of the device if you're happy and satisfied with the level of emulation.

  • @shlokshah5379
    @shlokshah5379 8 месяцев назад

    Reallt happy that companies are trying to compete with phones. They had average hardware with weak chips using the same ones for years. The competetion from ayn and steam deck put them in the right place.

  • @fgmenth
    @fgmenth 8 месяцев назад

    I can't wait for Retroid Pocket 9 next year

  • @asifzafar5485
    @asifzafar5485 8 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I found your channel searching for handheld emulator and ur videos are by far the best with explanation and honest feedback. I ended up pre-ordering the 4 pro based on this video.

  • @JP-uv5tt
    @JP-uv5tt 8 месяцев назад

    Just stumbled on your channel and love the content. Very excited about the 4 pro!

  • @NiallOSullivan
    @NiallOSullivan 8 месяцев назад +5

    I’m hoping that the Pro is good enough with 3DS to become the ultimate classic Monster Hunter mobile machine with the PSP and PS2 games to boot. If MH4U runs welll enough then I’ll be very happy with this.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 8 месяцев назад +1

      Wasn't MH4U a New 3DS enhanced title? Not sure if I remember correctly though. But if so, the New 3DS was bit more powerful than standard 3DS and emulator devices may need bit more grunt too.

    • @suhtangwong
      @suhtangwong 8 месяцев назад +2

      I can play some 3ds games on my rp3+ already, and judging by the specs, rp4 pro should play it even better.

  • @N0FPV
    @N0FPV 8 месяцев назад

    That intro theme music still slaps

  • @scottjl
    @scottjl 8 месяцев назад

    excellent video as always. i'm in for a 160bit pro. happy holidays everyone!

  • @jamesstinedurf9841
    @jamesstinedurf9841 8 месяцев назад

    looking forward to a full review on this in the future

  • @suhtangwong
    @suhtangwong 8 месяцев назад

    Me: I freaken ❤ my rp3+, I would never trade it for the world.
    Russ: the start and select button are now in front of the device thank goodness.
    Also Me: sold!

  • @CoryCDS
    @CoryCDS 8 месяцев назад +1

    I ordered the 3+ on Black Friday and it came in today 🤦🏻‍♂️ I knew this was going to happen

  • @ronch550
    @ronch550 8 месяцев назад +13

    I'm just happy we're moving past the T618 without going Ryzen which is pretty expensive.

    • @CFWhitman
      @CFWhitman 8 месяцев назад +1

      I don't really think you have to worry about these Android devices shifting to an AMD64 architecture. What I'd like to see are more powerful ARM SoCs in Linux handhelds. There are a couple of chips coming that will raise that bar some, but they trail behind the SoCs in Android systems by quite a bit. (This is entirely a matter of what development has been supported/done for the SoC).

    • @ronch550
      @ronch550 8 месяцев назад

      @@CFWhitman no problem if they go with Ryzen but as I said, they're expensive, at least from what I'm seeing. Like how much does a Steam Deck cost? I'd rather have ARM handhelds, as you do.

    • @WilMcCandlish
      @WilMcCandlish 8 месяцев назад

      Do you mean Snapdragon? Ryzen would be a windows handheld not Android.

  • @janelain8439
    @janelain8439 8 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like my ideal console.

  • @_nihilus7127
    @_nihilus7127 8 месяцев назад

    I JUST gifted my old rp3+ to a close friend after he helped me move into my new house. Sounds like i have a few good reasons here to get the 4!

  • @rsorry
    @rsorry 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent android handheld comparison slide 🔥