Picoscope Basics Part 1 (scale, time base and trigger settings)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- In this part 1 of 2 series I will be covering lab scope scales, time base and trigger settings
00:00 - intro to pico 6 software
00:45 - scope screen (scale and time)
01:18 - time per screen vs time per division
03:00 - voltage scales
05:46 - setting multiple channels
08:50 - using inductive amp probe on an ignition coil
12:30 - setting a scope trigger
15:50 - trigger level, slope and delay
17:38 - when to NOT set a trigger
20:30 - auto vs manual trigger
26:00 - where you never want to set a trigger
28:37 - inductive high amp probe
30:22 - when to use a single trigger
32:41 - setting a trigger on another channel
36:00 - synchronizing ignition patterns
Here is part 2 • Picoscope Basics Part ...
which covers sampling and the waveform buffer
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Great content and knowledge.... Thanks for doing what you do Paul. I myself know that it costs money to get in depth quality training like this and am greatful for Paul Danner. I have also sat denso training classes for advanced waveform diagnostics and was a complete waist of money and honestly felt I knew more than the instructor. Thanks to Paul Danner
You would be hard pressed to find this quality of education with payed admission, little lone for FREE! Dude is a blessing
I rewatched this series again today after watching it in the past. Wow, this was helpful! So much good information that I missed the 1st time I watched it. I paused the video and took notes so many times, it took me about an hour and a 1/2 to watch this 40 minute video 😊
Heck yeah man! Awesome, that is what it's about. So glad to hear this, thank you
That was great, you answered a ton of questions I already had about my Picoscope, so now it's time for me to actually use it. I hope you make more and title them appropriately, because I know you use the scope in alot of your videos, but it's always hard to remember which video made use of the scope, and what was viewed on the scope. Explanation of the trigger was perfect, makes perfect sense now. Having a verbal explanation of the slope helped alot, much better than reading about it.
What a great teacher! I've been using this scope 4 years and you are opening it up to levels I didn't even know it had
very clear explanation of how a scope works....Many thanks Paul
Its weird to me how I have learned more of the techniques I use on a daily basis from you then anything/anyone else. Top 2 tools I use now a test light and a scope. You truly are amazing paul.
Great work! Especially that you include your OOPS! events. It makes me realize that mistakes are possible but not the end of the world when you make them.
So so clear!! Thank you very much, I need to let you know that I speak in Spanish ( of course I understand English, but is not my language ) and I can understood everything you explain perfectly, impressive quality of information thanks again.
By the way, impressive predictive motor and spell check on android for English too lol, was very helpful.
Thank you!
Great video Mr. Danner. I am looking forward to viewing all the others that are scope related. I was always unsure about the trigger functions. Thanks for the great description. Keep on.
Brilliant video, thank you! Such a clear explanation, onto part 2.
Thanks Sam
Have your paper book and let me tell you what an amazing book it is...thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and this video.
.my tech school was never this thorough on scope settings. Please more more! Keep these case study videos coming as well.
i wish you would of made this video about a year ago, i bought so many books and dvd's on this when i bought my scope. It took me about 3 months to fully understand how to use it, and you pretty much summed it up in 40 minutes,lol. the trigger was the hardest part for me to understand, but thx again for another great video.
Thank you Franklin!
your good at this man, i'm an old cadillac electronics man,just now getting into the oscilloscope usage,got a hantek 1008c ,it's the difference between a volt meter and an oscilloscope to a stethoscope and an EKG,i'm goin whath all. thanks for your expertise.
Great as always !!! Very Useful Info for all that are starting with Scopes !
Yes. All decent scopes will show both AC and DC content in the DC coupling mode. If you set it to AC coupling, it will block all of the DC. I will be showing this in part 2
All respect to you man , many thanks,
Ali from egypt
Excellent ! Just what I needed to get going with my new bought Pico. Thanx a bunch for this video :)
I've been waiting for something like this. We all see you using the Pico but had no idea how it works. Now we do, thank you! I learned a lot. That's a quality instructive session congrats! Top quality instruction.
I know nothing about the tool you're using (I'm not even involved with an automotive field, I'm from IT but have an interest in automotive, etc.) but watching your video was a treat. It was very clear and it's obvious you know what you're talking about. Keep up the great work.
Video may be 6 years old ,but very informative and detailed. Thank you for the education
By far the best scope training video on here.
Awesome job on trigger detailing!
when I took a engine performance class, our instructor just gave us the pico scope and had us figure it out on our own, not knowing what was right and what was wrong. Just wasting time.... thanks man, for a lesson on how to use the pico.
+Rich thanks Rich!
Hello all. So I'm a backyard mechanic that works on my families vehicles. I currently use the Autel MS906BT scanner. I'm thinking about adding a scope to toolbox to make life a little more easy (I think!) I was thinking about the Pico 2205A for now since its only a couple hundred bucks. I think 2 channels should be ok? I'm asking all of you to see if anybody had buyers remorse and wished they spent the extra money. Before I know it Ill be 60 so I'm just trying to watch the cash flow. I appreciate and suggestions. Ive been watching Paul on and off for years! He is just amazing with what he does! Anyone is a better person for just knowing this man, inside and outside of the shop!
Great video rich with information and the you deliver those infos is amazing. thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Respect.
What you need to do with the Verus is save your waveforms on a very small timebase, then zoom out on the capture for your repetition. (save the whole buffer) You just have to remember that the Verus zooms out, not in. So you store your waveforms differently.
I don't know how much I have to say thank to you!
very good Paul. I have done enough work on pico, thought it might not be useful, but still i got good tips from the session, such as the one delay. I learned it today.. quite useful, second is not to choose the trigger when more than point in the wave form have a position. good lesson learned..
Great video! Great ebook, Great job as always.
like always we appreciate everything you let us know about your knowledges we wait for the other videos part two etc thanks man
Great instruction as usual Paul
another excellent video thank you keep up the good work with the pico
That was very informative, thank you! :)
This applies to all scopes for the most part. Maybe a title like, "Scope basics, featuring the Picoscope?" Good stuff as a refresher or for a new tech only using their scope a few times a year.
Once this tool is more familiar to a tech, it becomes their greatest asset!
Nice tip on single trigger, I just bought a Pico 4225 with a floating ground I think that is a big advantage before the scope with shared ground, I rememberer a video where you had some issue with the shared ground. Do not remember what it was for issue I try to find that video. Thanks to your videos I got my self the now how to use a scope and diagnose a car. I am only a diy mechanic but very interested in the electronic part of modern cars because of the part changers at the shops. Thanks for your help Danner
Great video👌Thanks for the effort for sharing this👍
Great video Paul.Anybody have any experince with the Hantek1008A ? I am debating on which one I should get.
oldskool funk Hi oldskool funk, i'm also interested in the hantek1008A. Did you buy it? Do you recommend it after the research you've done?
God bless you
Awesome! Thank you for sharing teacher Danner
My pleasure!
Well done, thank you!
Excellent video
Greetings from Finland. You are really good in what you do.
Very KNOWLEDGEABLE
Sir ScannerDanner
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Just wait until your students find out about VE waveforms...
Another well executed and extremely informative video Paul
Great intro!
Excellent Vid Paul. I have been wanting to buy the Pico but didn't know much about the basics so I am happy to see you showing that. Autonerdz is nice for discussions but I prefer the visual myself. Keep it rolling man!
You are the best I driving old cars and you help me save a lot of money, I live in a place where they only change parts, one example is on a car they change part at a cost of $2000 and did not fix the problem next time the did a $100 repair and that fix the problem.This happen all the time and they I think charge the customer most of the time otherwise they should be out of business. Most people don't understand they get robbed. This is special garage for there on brand don't now what you call
great video paul
Very helpful! And 53,000 views - well done!
Man I wish my auto instructors taught like you .Wonderful lecture and class.
Thanks John!
Excelent video
A thousand thumbs up. This is the type of content you can only find here on ScannerDanner (and ScannerDanner premium ;).
Thanks man! Really appreciate that. Hoping to have Part 2 soon.
That's a dope smart board.
Excellent! I need a picoscope and part2. Thx....
Hi good video, I uses a scope for many years but still learnt something important to save time.
not sure offhand. you can change how it opens up though. i just can't remember how. maybe some of my pico friends can chime in on that one
Great info
I have no doubt in my mind (especially for the ones who are getting into this) by watching this, could actually enhance your learning capabilities even further.
Awesome!
thank you for the tutorial! now i understand how to use the autel maxiscope better
This was a great intro to the Picoscope software - thanks! (I found it on their website)
+Jerod Matlock thanks Jerod
Well done, looking forward to more. Question. Is the Pico scope accurate compared to a quality DMM when sampling a voltage reading, as well as a converted amperage readings. Is it possible to use the pico to take a ohm reading, just had to ask ? Thanks Paul.
Yes. Look for some in the future on the Verus too
Thank you ❤
very nice
thank you! now if i could just figure out how to convince all of my subscribers that they need my eBook. :)
Where is your ebook?
“Basic Auto” I bought my book from AES
@@germdoesit3795 I missed this one, sorry. It is available through my website at www.scannerdanner.com
Thank you!
I think some of the problems is the fact your using some high end tools and they dont want to get caught up in all that. Most backyard mechanics dont have that kind of cash laying around to pay for that kind of stuff. We all understand higher end equipment is where you should be, but......im a diy'er and im going for cheaper equipment. If I can find a much cheaper version of a scanner and a scope, im doing that. But there is another problem with doing that, your covering higher end equipment, so why am I going to bother buying a book if your only going to keep showing high end equipment, that means you dont cover the cheaper stuff. Im a diy'er and im considering the book, but my budget doesnt allow for an expensive scanner or a scope, hard to learn something your just picking at let alone a piece of equipment you dont show, so now I have to learn a cheap scanner, cheap scope and then learn what your showing which I may or may not be able to figure out on my own. Ahhh a catch 22 sitting there. But yes, I am considering the purchase.
@@oldiron4135 I promise you that everything I covered in this lesson applies to ALL scopes!! Sure the button pushing will be different but you must look beyond the tool and understand the concepts. There will be some limitations with what you can do with more basic tools. For example, if you are using a 1 channel scope and I have a 4 channel.
But this will be the same throughout what I do and what I teach. I am not going to chose a lesser tool when it may not do the function I need. I will show you the testing method and you can use it to understand how to either apply it to the tooling you have or understand where your tool may fall short. So in these cases, I try to provide all alternative testing methods, but sometimes they don't exist! Hope that makes sense. Again, look past the tools and at the lesson. Thank you for your interest!
Very Nice, great job. :)
Thanks for the advise. I wasn't using a small enough time base. I don't see why snap on won't just let us zoom in!!
I would not be able to answer that question for you. Have you looked into the 2 channel scope package that pico offers?
Hi Paul,when you connect your synch probe to the plug wire do you need to use an attenuator to protect the scope or not ?.....thank you
Great video, I realy needed this to know these features, I hope on the next videos you can show a known good pattern on different part (injectors, ignition....etc).
Please can you do vidoes on modis scan tool. Thank you.
Dear! Paul Thank you very much por excellent vid. Please, tell us when the part Two is comming?
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Hi I just got my pico and im now learning how to use it, I will be watching your vids to try to get an idea on how to use this tool, thank you very much for these sessions you have post, my question is when you connected your amp probe to the coil primary circuit do have to use the attenuator and when do you have to use the attenuator.
I am directing all help requests to my forum. Sign up (it's free) and create a new post. Be sure to add a name under "alias" as this is the name that will appear in the post.
Here is the link to the forum.
www.scannerdanner.com/ForumRetrieve.aspx?ForumID=3226
Thanks!
Paul, when I got my cam and crank signals later on I realized that I didnt have the channels set to AC, but to DC. Did I get a correct waveform with the picoscope set to DC but yet got AC waveforms?
P.S. Do you know how to set a "Maths Channel" in picoscope to detect a cylinder misfire by looking at a crank signal using a "Frequency" to see the cylinder drop out by rpm loss?
Set up the scope the way you would like it to open up when you start the application, then go to File/Startup Settings/Save Startup Settings. Now, every time you open the app, it will open on those settings. You can also make a bunch of presets by saving a setup using a .pssettings ending to the filename. I have a bunch of these that I use for custom setups.
Paul, I would like to know what wall screen you're using. I never saw a touchscreen such big, that also allows to be written at with a pen...?
I am also very interested to know the equipment you use in presentations.
SO NICE! White board with projection overlay then allows you to make notes and control computer!
YUM!
Please advise.
Mr Danner, what is your thought on a PicoScope vs the Vantage Pro for waveform analysis purposes?
May be difficult to explain here, but try setting up the scope the way you like it, then click the file tab in the upper right. In that box there is an option "Startup settings", click on this, the "save startup settings". Whenever you open the Pico software or click the "home" icon, the program will be set up the way you left it.
this is great is there a part two thanks
SUBSTANTIAL Sir ScannerDanner
Impressive video tutorial amazing
Thank you, take care and have a great day. Sir ScannerDanner
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Thanks
Hey paul, did your probe library come preloaded with the scope6 program?. When i go into mine theres no amp probe.
The way he looks at the camera when he drops it... Lols
GOLD!
I might of jumped the gun on that i guess i should find the video and watch it because out of curiosity i was just messing with my verus and could not change the time base for each channel, even with separate windows opened, so very good question
Soon. Sorry about that. I just need to find the time to do it.
Don't be a parts changer Great video from the master of diagnosis
Hi Mr. Danner:
Do you have any thoughts on Hantek? Or do you recommend Pico? Your opinion would be of great value. Quality is of importance to me, and if Pico stands out above the rest would you be kind enough to respond with your experience / opinion. Thank you for your vids.
+Dog Food never used one. I have heard that Hantek has copied a lot of there stuff from pico
I haven't watched all the video yet. But I'm assuming most of this in these next videos will also apply to the Verus?
Dear ScannerDanner,
can you tell me the make of the Interactive board you are using?
Kind regards
thank yuo
Any idea when part 2 is coming out?
Thanks for video could u clarify something for me u can set the vertical scales for different readings using extra channels but I dont see the horizontal time changing I only see one scale where as I can see 4 vertical am I missing something
What is the difference, apart from specs, between the 2405a 4 channel pico and the 4 channel 4225 pico?
Is there really a real world difference that makes the 4225 more than twice the price?
Will the 2405a be ok for just day to day car diagnostics? Or will i be crying out for a 4225 within a few weeks? :-)
The reason why you cannot change time base for each channel is because the typical reason to scope multiple inputs is because you are looking for the relationship between the inputs. If you have them on different time bases, the relationship is lost. However, there are rare times when it would be a nice feature.
what software version are you using I noticed when you opend the pico only one channel was on mine opens with all for channles on and I have too turn off the ones I don't need
Hey I have a challenging question i wondering if you could answer. GM has just introduced the media oriented systems transport (most) into their radio systems. It is supposed to be a 100 times faster than high speed can bus lan. I've been trying to connect my picoscope 4000 series to it and the radio glitches and mutes when i backprobe the 2 communication wires. same thing happens when i backprobe with my fluke 87. I was wondering does the picoscope draw like the slightest amount of amperage or microamps to gain a reading? i know a high impedance test lamp draws like an amp and it'll definitely short out
a common can bus. I was wondering if the same principle applies to this really sensitive communication circuit. could the picoscope or fluke be partially shorting those wires together by something higher than megaohms to gain a voltage reading? I don't believe they've manufactured any tools yet to do live circuit testing for diagnostics yet like using oscilloscopes.
Yes. Last I checked the PicoScope is a 2 mega ohm impedance meter. Every digital meter or scope will draw a small amount of current from the circuit being tested.
wheres part 2 I love the picco
@beansandgravy1... Paul will have to chime in on the pico because ive never used one but the verus if u have 1 window open and using 1-4 channels u can only choose 1 timebase at a time however u can open 4 seperate windows and choose a timebase for each window, duane from realfixesrealfast has a video demonstrating it on the verus if interested.