If you run this comp the druid is dreamstate, and he will not need to drink. The reason dreamstate isn't common in 2s, is because without natural perfection and swiftmend, the druid can easily die. WIth a priest healer, this issue is heavily mitigated.
For Race choices you either forgot or dont know that troll is just as viable as undead for horde, if not even better(in my opinion it is) due to Hex of Weakness and Shadowguard+Blackout talent combo. Undead: Devouring Plague(instant, 3min cd) is nice, but it can be dispelled, and that combined with its high mana cost + long cd means its not gonna have much value against teams with paladin, shaman or priest in them that knows to look out for it. Will of the Forsaken(instant, 2min cd), while stupidly good, only have value vs warlocks, priests and warriors. Which means any team not with them in it and it might aswell not exist. Troll: Hex of Weakness(instant with no cd)reduces physical damage done, so decent vs all melee(especially dual wielders/feral) and hunters as you can use it on their pet aswell. Also reduces healing received by 20%, which makes swapping targets easier if you dont have mortal effect cd ready. If the enemy is trying to dispel it you can just use rank 1 and make them waste mana. Hex of Weakness lasts 2min(which means you can consistently keep it up on the entire enemy team at all times), with rank 1(35 mana) reducing physical dmg done by 2(so use vs casters) and rank 7(295 mana) reducing physical damage done by 35. Hex of Weakness is especially useful in any team that does alot of consistent damage to all enemy team members through cleaving, dotting etc. Hex of Weakness value drops vs teams without healers in it tho. Shadowguard(instant with no cd) is amazing for long term surviability for any priest that puts 5 talent points into blackout, and for shadow it also provides healing(far more than devouring plague in fact if the damage is on someone with Vampiric Embrace on them, which shouldnt be hard with its low cd). 10% chance to stun for 3sec each time it does damage is amazing for the priests survival, and a healing priest can just use rank 1 which costs like no mana and will punish whatever dispeller is trying to get rid of it due to dispel cost. And if I remember right it does not have Dimishing return(could be wrong tho). And lets not forget that trolls have Berserking, +10-30% cast speed depending on priests health. I seem to remember that in the beginning of BC I played as a druid with a warrior friend of mine. In beginning of matches he would just shadowmeld in waiting area and wait til someone got close so he could charge and surprise them. So if I remember right, in beginning of BC you cant see what classes you are up against if they are stealthed? If this is so night elf might be preferable over dwarf just for the ambush opportunity to make enemy think they are up against some kind of triple stealth shenanigans like double rogue+druid or some shit.
@@cempas Just in case you dont know, Fear Ward becomes available to all priests in BC. So that is just plain wrong. I will admit tho that dwarf and gnome racials are pretty damn good for warrior. Just pointing out something weird I saw done back when BC was originally released.
@@pawzom2564 yes ofc i know that. The reason u go dwarf is stoneform which is amazing vs rogues. There is no other option as ally. As horde u go undead for most comps unless u gonna go some kind of castercleave as shadow, then u pick troll for the healing% debuff.
good info, night elf priest is sleeper too. starshards another dot, elune grace for 20% hit miss, shadowmeld available in combat.... holy and disciple talents are so juicy. Priest have a lot of good talents when u get critically hit. blessed resillence op. tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&priest&5002320133300120300000230501332300152000300000000000000000000000 or u can go vampiric touch...
tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&hunter&0503300151521004010000000000000000000000003020530510302010500000 survival melee hunter tbc build. stoneform or tauren for bonus hp, good dodge, parry, good pvp talents, moongose bite+ taptor stike, 15% agi, sirit bond.if ua re tauren u get 20% bonus max hp, 15% if not...2% gp per 10s...
Unfortunately there's a massive drought in quality TBC arena footage. Most of what I can get are from more recent private servers but even then to find the exact comp you want is a huge challenge. I'm sure once the first season in TBC Classic is out there will be a huge flood of footage.
Beastmastery was broken as fuck in TBC. They screwed up the pet scaling for so long season 1-2 and 3 i believe. BM hunters in 2v2 could carry a would often sell slots for carry's... if they stick to the original release schedule with bug fix's/nerfs patches then you are gonna see some insane BM huntards in live!
Can you do a better job at showing what specs people are? You show the hunters talent tree but don’t even show druids spec you just expect casuals to know what your talking about
1 hour matches? i am playing this combo and we play max 3/4 min arenas :D i thought 1 hour arenas are only in shadowlands... because healers have ALWAYS full mana :D crazy and sad
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"WoW."
This actually sounds like a really fun comp
Got my first and most likely last Gladiator title playing this comp as hunter in TBC s3.
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What's the best spec for hunter in this comp in your opinion?
@@Oh5MaGmA636 I played with most points in MM, but can't say if it's best or not. It's so long time ago.
Me and my hunter friend are doing feral/hunter/healer team so I appreciate the advice you have given!
yeh man but meta comp is two healer not feral
Great video. Would be intersted in seeing a Turbo Cleave video
Have not played that comp myself but I imagine draining the Mage would be much better against RMP
I played PHD. You drain the mage, its GG. PHD should alway beat RMP. idgaf what anyone says
@@GrimsyTV Not these days - times have changed my guy
@@Cobusftwmahoniez in tbc, yes it still should absolutely destroy rmp
I can’t find any content exploring the Warlock/hunter/priest comp aka drain comp. Please put something out on it!
If you run this comp the druid is dreamstate, and he will not need to drink. The reason dreamstate isn't common in 2s, is because without natural perfection and swiftmend, the druid can easily die. WIth a priest healer, this issue is heavily mitigated.
For Race choices you either forgot or dont know that troll is just as viable as undead for horde, if not even better(in my opinion it is) due to Hex of Weakness and Shadowguard+Blackout talent combo.
Undead:
Devouring Plague(instant, 3min cd) is nice, but it can be dispelled, and that combined with its high mana cost + long cd means its not gonna have much value against teams with paladin, shaman or priest in them that knows to look out for it.
Will of the Forsaken(instant, 2min cd), while stupidly good, only have value vs warlocks, priests and warriors. Which means any team not with them in it and it might aswell not exist.
Troll:
Hex of Weakness(instant with no cd)reduces physical damage done, so decent vs all melee(especially dual wielders/feral) and hunters as you can use it on their pet aswell. Also reduces healing received by 20%, which makes swapping targets easier if you dont have mortal effect cd ready. If the enemy is trying to dispel it you can just use rank 1 and make them waste mana.
Hex of Weakness lasts 2min(which means you can consistently keep it up on the entire enemy team at all times), with rank 1(35 mana) reducing physical dmg done by 2(so use vs casters) and rank 7(295 mana) reducing physical damage done by 35.
Hex of Weakness is especially useful in any team that does alot of consistent damage to all enemy team members through cleaving, dotting etc. Hex of Weakness value drops vs teams without healers in it tho.
Shadowguard(instant with no cd) is amazing for long term surviability for any priest that puts 5 talent points into blackout, and for shadow it also provides healing(far more than devouring plague in fact if the damage is on someone with Vampiric Embrace on them, which shouldnt be hard with its low cd).
10% chance to stun for 3sec each time it does damage is amazing for the priests survival, and a healing priest can just use rank 1 which costs like no mana and will punish whatever dispeller is trying to get rid of it due to dispel cost.
And if I remember right it does not have Dimishing return(could be wrong tho).
And lets not forget that trolls have Berserking, +10-30% cast speed depending on priests health.
I seem to remember that in the beginning of BC I played as a druid with a warrior friend of mine. In beginning of matches he would just shadowmeld in waiting area and wait til someone got close so he could charge and surprise them. So if I remember right, in beginning of BC you cant see what classes you are up against if they are stealthed? If this is so night elf might be preferable over dwarf just for the ambush opportunity to make enemy think they are up against some kind of triple stealth shenanigans like double rogue+druid or some shit.
Just no, if u are ally u go gnome or dwarf as warrior. As priest u go dwarf only
@@cempas Just in case you dont know, Fear Ward becomes available to all priests in BC. So that is just plain wrong.
I will admit tho that dwarf and gnome racials are pretty damn good for warrior. Just pointing out something weird I saw done back when BC was originally released.
@@pawzom2564 yes ofc i know that. The reason u go dwarf is stoneform which is amazing vs rogues. There is no other option as ally. As horde u go undead for most comps unless u gonna go some kind of castercleave as shadow, then u pick troll for the healing% debuff.
good info, night elf priest is sleeper too. starshards another dot, elune grace for 20% hit miss, shadowmeld available in combat.... holy and disciple talents are so juicy. Priest have a lot of good talents when u get critically hit. blessed resillence op. tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&priest&5002320133300120300000230501332300152000300000000000000000000000 or u can go vampiric touch...
No..
Loved this dude! Arena info videos are what I need!
I wanna play this in TBC classic mainly bc I wanna play BM in season 1 and don't feel like switching mains
Very interesting video ! keep it up :)
Sounds like this team is going for a slow painful grind making life miserable as people run out of resources. Just like a real PhD!
just fund ur videos keep it going its very informative !
SV PvP Hunters do not take readiness. They take Wyvern sting and scatter.
tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&hunter&0503300151521004010000000000000000000000003020530510302010500000 survival melee hunter tbc build. stoneform or tauren for bonus hp, good dodge, parry, good pvp talents, moongose bite+ taptor stike, 15% agi, sirit bond.if ua re tauren u get 20% bonus max hp, 15% if not...2% gp per 10s...
I like better warlock hunter priest or Druid
can anyone link videos of this comp cant find any?
Unfortunately there's a massive drought in quality TBC arena footage. Most of what I can get are from more recent private servers but even then to find the exact comp you want is a huge challenge. I'm sure once the first season in TBC Classic is out there will be a huge flood of footage.
How would shadow work for this?
I had a feeling jungle could be good in TBC for 3's
its not jungle since druid is healer...its a double healer hunter comp
That voice 😍🔥
It took me 16 years to get my PhD in WoW and I'm still unemployed....
People gonna hate you for playing double healer
Haters gonna hate
i prefer hating on people playing rmp... wich means 70% of tbc and woltk 3v3 teams.
Please no. Any double healer/drain comp is cancer
What server is it?
where t oplay TBC?D
Beastmastery was broken as fuck in TBC. They screwed up the pet scaling for so long season 1-2 and 3 i believe. BM hunters in 2v2 could carry a would often sell slots for carry's... if they stick to the original release schedule with bug fix's/nerfs patches then you are gonna see some insane BM huntards in live!
Can you do a better job at showing what specs people
are? You show the hunters talent tree but don’t even show druids spec you just expect casuals to know what your talking about
good luck finding 2 healers let alone 1 decent healer for arenas. Let alone find one that wants to play with a hunter.
Friends?
rly? nelf disc better than dwarf? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Dont play this comp youll hate yourself (and rightfully so)
phd lol
And this is why I wont be playing classic tbc. 1 hour matches aren't fun
Yes, the 40k oneshots of Shadowlands is where the funs at.
@@aleksiarpalahti5937 learn to use defensive cooldowns versus offensive cooldowns. Or go play your boomer version of wow
@@clauslarsen8971 im already here
1 hour matches? i am playing this combo and we play max 3/4 min arenas :D i thought 1 hour arenas are only in shadowlands... because healers have ALWAYS full mana :D crazy and sad
cancer team :D