SHAWN'S NEW IRON SHAFTS | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue 120 X100
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2017
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Shawn gets fit for new iron shafts after 25 years of playing Dynamic Gold S300's! See the huge improvement he has in consistency and feel by switching to something new. On location at TXG Tour Experience Golf txg.ca
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Recently switched to this shaft in the S version - can't say enough how much I love the way the TI 120 feels - such a great shaft. Found it feels more "compact" like Shawn says here in the fitting but still feels "familiar" to someone like me that just played DG for years by "default" - great stuff.
Very eye opening, great content Shawn
Tons of insight. Great series of videos!
Very interesting, well done gents. Thank you for sharing this.
I tried this shaft and tons of others, including two different project x , regular dynamic gold, KBS, and others. This shaft consistently went straight and the distance it was supposed to go. By far the best shaft I tried.
I do my own grips in my workshop (in the garage) and like an extra wrap on the bottom of my 7,8,9,and wedges for chipping when I grip down.
Just got fitted for the 120 x100's and I was amazed at the dispersion vs my old shafts/other contenders. Incredible what a shaft fitting can do.. Misses were so much better.
@MD I started hitting the ball right to left a bit more (right handed) after switching from the project x lz 6.5's. I used to miss to the right more often than not. I think going to the stiffer shaft helped that but I honestly don't know enough to help- just my personal experience. I also got lucky enough to hit them on grass (after the simulator inside) which made me confident to make the switch. Sucks to have to pay for the fitting but was worth it. They're solid man, good luck tinkering haha!
I bought a set of clubs that had one DG 120 in the AW. Best feeling club in my bag until I got fitted and ended up with the Nippon 1150 GH Tour.
Ian Frazier is such a patient man!
Fantastic Sean. I switched from a S300 to a X100 a couple of months back and I have never hit the ball so straight.
Awesome James!!
Just got fitted for these bad boys, let me tell you what a difference. The dispersion was so much better, my typical miss was left and when I held off, I'd miss right occasionally. NOT with the DG 120 and the Mizuno 223. It lets me swing my swing and the shaft stays with me. The shots stayed more on target, I'm currently stuck at 3-5 and need to get over the hump. I think this might be the way to go.
This was interesting to watch and very professional team work 👍 I have tried couple times fitting. Both times i was the biggest difference. I think your swing has to bee repeataple before make you make big adjustments to your clubs. Always fix the indian before arrow 🏹😉
We get such strong winds and so frequently, in western Canada. The DG is less popular here than the project X, KBS C-taper etc arm to be the leaders in lower flight flight shafts
I would love to find something much closer to Montana. Definitely worth a trip
amazing going from stock shot 10 degree in to out to hitting the fade shot. Makes sense for ian to change Seans shaft as opposed to getting him to try and change his swing dynamics.
It seemed to me the dynamic lie angle varied by 1-2 degrees toe down based on your 10 degree in to out swing and your 1 degree out to in. Did you guys discuss a happy medium between the two?
Ian "if you want to hit it further take an extra club" - so simple and so true. Having got new irons (first time in 20 years) with what I thought was a proper fitting with my local club pro, I am in awe of the difference between a regular club pro fitting and a top professional fitting
Appreciate the feedback Justin!!
I have an old set of Wilson staff irons from 1987 with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts and they say frequency matched on them?
is there a fitting experience like this in California - i know there are many places that fit clubs - but im talking with the same integrity as TXG
Ian Fraser, well done ,good fitter.good for Shawn too
The 120 should be stiffer than the regular 130g x100? Less weight flexes less?
Amazing insight, want to go do this in the next 2 months
If you are in the Toronto area, they have a great facility in Burlington and at 404 and 401 area; Ian and his team are top of the heap!
I play ping irons with the Ping CFS stiff steel shaft I'm going to get a new set of ping irons next year and thinking about trying the dynamic gold 120 looks like a great shaft I have tried super light Steel 85 - 90 G those are just too light I'm all over the place I really want to give the dynamic gold 120 a try
I am playing CFS stiff now in my original ping ISI’s. On my Monday my i210’s with dg 120 x100’s are showing up and I can’t wait. First new irons since 2000.
H fr: Honolulu,
Played with DGS300 forever then stopped to have 2 back surgeries now im able to play again got fitted with Mizuno jpx hot metal pros @ fitter recommended DG 105 S300. Got them @ i can't hit them i feel like its to light i dont have control...would like to try DG tour issue 120...HELP
DG 120 X100 and MCC Plus 4 Grips and you would be on the money?
What shafts is he coming from? Original DG S400 or DG X100?
Shawn is this made play (score) better?
Why is it that Count Yogi is not mentioned on most you tube channels. I read that he coached Ben Hogan
And helped him with his hook.
Not sure I will get an answer, but this video touches on where I am in right now. I'm 50 and I'm a 10 handicap who occasionally shoots in the high 70's. I've just started back playing after a 8 year hiatus, and have upgraded my blades to Mizuno 919T irons and Titleist SM7 wedges. I love my SM7 wedges, 50, 56, and 62 outfitted with Tour Issue S400 wedge shafts, but I'm not quite satisfied with my Dynamic Gold 120 S300's in my iron shafts. I feel like the draw in my irons are too pronounced, causing me to start to change face angle or line.... wondering if the Tour Issue X100 might be the choice for me?
Hi Mike; the only reason why you would change is that if the shafts feel sloppy; I am waiting on my blueprints with the shafts you have and feel they are doing the job during the fitting; It’s funny how I have always been recommended an X-stiff and every time I got them installed they felt like I had to work at my swing to get them loaded. Observe the strain level in your swing instead; on a scale of 1-10 your effort should be 3 and the velocity produced by this should get you a 7/10 in velocity.
Any thoughts after almost a year using that shaft?
Man that was cool stuff
DG in an iBlade +1/2" = a beastly D5-D6? On a fitting head. (curious). Do the 120 swingweight 1-2 sw points lower than the DG traditional due to being a lighter shaft?
No, they keep the same balance point.
new subscriber here, awesome video! would be interesting to get your take on the mizuno dna system and similar, for those folks who cannot visit txg physically :D
I am sure we will get to that; they have a solid Mizuno representation!
When I win the lotto tonight my first purchase will be a GCQuad. Thanks guys.
GC Quad and a trip to TXG for me lol
I was wondering if Shawn could do an update on that series and if he worked on his in to out numbers or if it was just that day it was so consistently over 10°. Because I feel it was the main reason Shawn got the occasional block to the right and also why the dynamic lie angle changed quite a bit. The attempts to fade the ball were almost the best shots on both videos. Hence my question about the path
Some of it was my swing that day too, I have always had a small issue of taking the club too inside on the backswing; fades have been awesome as of late! :)
And definitely getting those shafts into my next set of irons from Ping now that they have this shaft in the line up!!
Do you find that husky golfers require longer shafts (like plus 1 inch) to accommodate less bind at address?
It is a combination of everything; the Ping Static Fit is a great place to start and is rarely off; between the GC Quad and their chart, it has been spot on 99% of the time!
Like you had, Shawn, I've been playing (still am) w/ DG S300 shafts. Debating whether to buy new shafts (not cheap, even if I put them on) for my TA 845s or used clubs with that shaft on them? Presumably you've been using them for a couple of years now -- do you notice a big difference? The 120s are 10 grams lighter. I'd prefer a slightly head-heavy program. I could buy lighter grips to compensate some. What grips are you using? I'd imagine you kept the same heads (blueprints). Getting fitted like you did makes sense, but not everyone is close to a fitter like Ian. ):
Went back to my Dynamic Gold S-300; the 120’s were too light for me.
@@golflessons I love it! To heck with GC Quad -- stick to old faithfuls. Thanks for saving me time and money!
This is very interesting but I have not heard mention of puring iron shafts.
Very useful process for making sure each shaft in the set is of an acceptable tolerance. The worse the shaft the more useful the process becomes, when using Dynamic Gold Tour Issue or Nippon product minimal improvement is achieved.
TXG is the best
Shawn what happened to the forward movement prior to the backswing????? It disappeared????? 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
No worries! It was mentally engaged for a while, but I am back in a big way baby! 😀👍💪
How would you compare the DG 120 X100 to the Project X 6.0? My 6i swing speed is 100.
Ian,
Would a more counterbalanced shaft like kbs tour x or project x been of benefit to Shawn speaking to the point of very in to out path?
Lance Sedevie good question! What is the difference between the x100 and 6.5?
X100 130 grams. Px 125 grams and a smidge stiffer than x100. Px has higher balance point is what I know
Shawn is very particular about the way the shaft 'feels'. When dealing with better players is never normally a wise move to make a change the will adversely affect the players timing. Shawn loves the 'sledge hammer feel' that he gets from TT DG.
X100 is a little heavier and much softer in the butt section. Good for players with smooth tempo and transition. PX is 5 grams lighter and has a much stiff butt section. In most players hands PX plays stiff than DG.
Ian Fraser
Thanks Ian for the insight. Was my understanding that the lighter head weight created by counterbalanced shafts made it easier for the stuck player to get club more in front easier. Truth or myth in your opinion
What is the different between Dynamic Gold R300 and R500? What is the weight for the R500?
R 500 is heavier and slightly stiffer.They are not available now due to better weight control during manufacture
Every video I watch from you Ian makes me want to stop by and get fit by you. But a 6hr flight and $500 extra just isn't in the cards :-).
196 6 iron? I wish... lol I’ve got an average smash factor of 1.4 w/ my MP-18 SC and I’m only carrying about 178. I’m jealous.
Don’t be afraid of the x7 or x100 best move I ever made as they are buttery as 💯 they don’t play as stiff as what one would think
Tour pros soft and hard step them anyway
Thank you John!
Im glad u have said this as im going DG S400 TI... complete opposite from the wimpy shafts i currently play
Stiffer clubs go shorter... complete myth! Great content!
Should i replace my kbs tour flt 130g shafts in my TM p770 irons to the 120g x100??
The best thing to do is to get to a place like Club Champion and try them out; I did get them but in S-flex and I am happy I did; I think the X would have made me strain too much.
I naturally have a fast swing and i make good contact but recently i slowed the swing a bit and have been more consistent. Back to back i shot a 74 for 18 holes.
@@DebtOfLife good! Like tennis, golf is all about the second serve, an attacking one of course. Strain level should be an easy 3/10 and velocity and compressikn should be 7.5/10
Choose the shafts based on that!
Ok sounda good. Thanks for the input sir. I only smash the driver and 3 wood lol. I average 115 and my fastest is about 121ish.. swing speed.
@@DebtOfLife that is right where I am; and that is on the borderline between S flex and X flex; determining factor and enemy #1 is STRAIN.
Variances in strike and delivery for most people overwhelm any thing else
The hardest part about watching this video is comparing this fitting to the one I just received which was me asking questions and the fitter having to google search everything to get an answer and me leaving feeling like I knew more about golf than the guy who gets paid to fit me into a new set of irons
I understand everyone needs to start somewhere; hope the charge was on par with the service!
@@golflessons it wasn't terribly pricey. Did want to ask, what is your 7 iron swing speed? Ive used s300s just like yourself and want to know if you feel much difference in the x100 as the s300
About 93Mph...
I'm getting a head ache...lol
to be honest Shawn, a person of your skill would know that with a 10 to 14 degree in to out path and a 2 to 4 degree closed face is gonna produce 20 yard or more draw.... there is no shaft that's gonna bring that down to a slight draw. I'm kinda surprised that you couldn't see this and adjust your face to path accordingly... didn't you notice that when you set up for a fade your club path was almost straight and your club face the same.... just a thought
These were my early days with the GC Quad; looking up at the screen was not familiar and I was simply in learning mode; we received these shafts at Ping and it is in my fitting cart; I will be working with them some more to make sure; not going to jump in after 40 years with the same shaft; but hey, I am 53 now and ripe for options and appreciated Ian’s opinion and views; he is very good at what he does and has seen things work for many tour player and a change in feel can deliver a different release and result; just staying open...😀 Shawn
@@golflessons Thanks for your reply Shawn... yeah I totally agree with you on Ian... That guy really knows his stuff, been hooked on his videos for a while now and have learned quite a lot about angles and delivery and what that does to the ball flight... Always enjoy your opinions and the style of how you teach, looking forward to a great 2019... Cheers
@@golflessons tiger was 10 in to out when he met Butch and he was playing world class golf. Don't change your swing. Be confident in the fact that when you hit it it's gonna move a specific distance left every time.
he stoops over the ball a bit?
Take a look at my “dynamic posture shawn clement” video with Dr Jeremy, just so you can see the purpose of the posture: ruclips.net/video/EaPuToR6QS4/видео.html
@@golflessons ok thanks they are great videos,my Scottish compatriate knows his stuff
Ian didn’t know how to respond to some of Shawn’s goofy comments
Goofy enough to be the #1 fitter for Callaway Canada on be on their fitting board 2 years running? Embrace the goofy!
Lighten up!
I know I am a little late to the game here, but this is why I hate box stores. I have a extreme in to out path that causes the "S" word, and EVERYONE has told me I need heavier. So I was fit in the DG S300 with a swing weight of D8-E0. I cant trust anyone here in my hometown. Great Video, I will be trying the 120s.
The S word comes from a swing that has centring issues; or does not stay centred. See my “contact and direction shawn clement” to start and then see “solid contact no shanks shawn clement” and “the football drill shawn clement” and finally “match backswing to target shawn clement” to address the swing coming too much from the inside
Bro is this guy alright
How u gona get this far in life without someone tellin you about that swing
I'm confused. From the looks of it, you are trying to hit a draw on all your shots instead of it happening naturally. Kind of counter productive wouldn't you say?! I mean...10-11 degrees from the inside...thats nuts!
Don’t let those numbers scare you; you can hit as big or as low a draw as you want; as long as you don’t compromise your anatomy in the process; love curving the ball! Your body is built to curve like in ping pong, tennis, baseball etc...never try to hit straight!
Shawn Clement oh for sure for sure. I meant during the fitting process. When you purposely put more curvature on a ball (fade,draw) during fitting, your less likely to find the tendencies you ultimately want to minimize.
Tiger was 10 degrees from inside when he came to see butch for the first time. And he was playing world class golf at the time. It's all about being confident in your shot shape.
The problem is that it is easy to fit a high level amateur like Shawn, because he has a consistent swing.
What happens when your average hack gets on this device and hits his normal all over the place shots?
Saint Kimbo very likely become less “all over the place”, but certainly relative to your ability. You might then get more enjoyment out of the game, practice more and maybe get better. Every golfer, regardless of ability, will benefit from a fitting. PERIOD. Your results might not resemble Shawn’s, but when you have the right tool for the job, things tend to go smoother. And in 5 years, you’ll probably benefit from another fitting... your golf swing is in near constant evolution.
I disagree, you don't seem to understand that the problem with club fitting is that, unless you are of very high ability, and have a consistent 'miss', as shown here with Shawns tendency to overhook, you are going to end up with clubs that simply cover up whatever issues you have.
For example, if you get clubs that have a draw bias to ease your slice, how is that helping to get rid of your slice?
Another example is Peter Finch's old man, they have given up on any technique improvements, admitted by Peter in the video, and have fitted him with clubs that simply minimise the impact of his technical flaws. Obviously, he's not going to get any better, but will probably enjoy himself more, but is that a good thing?
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That's an interesting point, but please don't refer to Shawn as "a high level amateur". I mean - come on.
In any case, I dislike the constant references to "tour pros" as if they were another breed of human. There are many thousands of amateurs of the same ability and distance as tour pros, although perhaps not the same short game skills, it's just that they have dedicated their lives to something other than golf. The name Bobby Jones springs to mind.
Well, the reason I refer to Shawn as a high level amateur, is because I think the term Golf Professional is a term that should be reserved for Players that play for money.
It's an overused term that is unnecessary, 'Golf Pro's' that don't play for money are usually Instructors or golf course administrators of some type, I mean school Teachers don't call themselves "Teaching Professionals" do they? It's a little egotistical, that implies a connection to the very best Pro Golfers, In my opinion.
I've never seen a course 'vlog' from Shawn, so I've got no idea how well scores.
As far as fitting goes, I stand by my point, based on personal experience, I started about 20 years ago with a cheap second hand set of clubs and worked my way, albeit frustratingly slowly, down to a low single figure handicap and have quite a collection of clubs from blades to chunky 'game improvement' irons and can hit them all very well.
Get fitted by all means but nothing will save bad technique and that should be the priority, especially for beginners and high handicappers, because, while a 'fitted' set of clubs may save you a couple of shots per round, but you'll still hit the wall.
Well, I think we're going to end up like puppies chasing their tails here.
I started off by saying that your point about club fitting possibly being a band-aid for less proficient players has some substance to it. So that's that.
As to the term "professional golfer" being restricted to those that earn money by playing tournament golf, we're getting nowhere. Shawn gives us all his understanding and insights into the game from years of study, practice and teaching. He does so because that is more rewarding to him than attempting to make money by being a "professional golfer" in your definition.
It is incongruous to suggest that evidence of his scoring on a golf course has any bearing on his ability as a golf instructor.
And, finally, teachers at all levels are frequently referred to as teaching professionals.
Another bone in the body?
Looks like I need stiffer bones! 😝😂
That’s one ugly swing but it works for you
2 arms and 2 legs and fully insurable!!
buddy you have 4 subscribers, and 2 of them are your mom and dad ahahaha