"One of the most important things about learning to draw is the ability to suffer trough a lot of bad drawings" I'm definitely in that part of the learning path. Great video Marshal. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@@claireyuan4195 that "suffering" is your skill compared to your expatations. That suffering is mindset. Like he said, it is part of progress, not just in drawing, but in dancing, acting, singing, playing... Only important thing is what you will do with that suffering. If it cripples you, you are done. If it motivates you, you are on good tracts. Think of suffering as a good tool because it means you are not happy with everything you draw, you know it can be better so work on it. If you don't "suffer" it means you are in comfort zone. You are drawing something you allready know or you don't give a shit for progress. Again, use "suffering" as a tool. The tool that makes you work harder, not tool thst cripples you.
There's a moment when putting down a special line, where you look at the line and it just brings everything around it to life. Even if it's something sketchy or doodly, when you put that line down and suddenly sparks pop and fly in your brain as if that line completed a circuit and you feel transcendent. Suddenly, if you ever had to make a line like that again you know you'll be able to do it with confidence next time and the time after that. The sparks don't stop, nor are they ever blinding.
Had the pleasure of taking an 8 week class with marshall and I must say it was probably the greatest academic experience of my life. A true inspiration and imaginative talent, bravo!
Damn, I'm jealous! My best academic experience was a 5 day workshop with Aaron Blaise and Ronnie Williford, but that seems rather small compared to 2 months with Marshall! Stan and Marshall are definitely on my list to meet next, I hope they'll come to Europe some day.
That's what I've been experimenting with. I've noticed the sketches I do in pen feel and look so different than if they were in pencil. Then when I went back to the pencil I did exactly what Marshall said: erase, try to fix it, erase again, try to fix it, eventually getting so frustrated that I no longer wanted to sketch. By far the hardest thing is going through so many awful drawings and trying to believe that it'll get better one day with practice.
@@_Nyxus_ I know right. It's depressing if you can't learn from your mistakes. You're gonna have to evaluate the problems like see what's wrong but in a bigger picture. Having someone to critique is also helpful. For now im focused on anatomy because it really does help on knowing what to do and why it's there. Bout to move on gestures and mannequin.
@@novski3175 I've had so many issues trying to get gestures down. I think sometimes we have issues trying to make things simplistic, at least I have that issue. So when looking at Proko when he's teaching gesture drawings, it looks so easy, but when I attempt it it just looks terrible. So I'm going back and forth trying to do gestures, fundamental shapes, and human "beans."
@@_Nyxus_ i think gestures are more of line of action. I've tried commiting to perspective like Kim Jung Gi's method it's so advanced so I decided to learn anatomy first then move on to gestures then perspective. I'm still new to anatomy and how and wherever the limits of bones n muscles.
@@novski3175 Yeah anatomy and proportions are a beast to tackle. Just learned about the 600 page sketchbook challenge in 30 days so maybe all of us should try that!
"I don't think self consciousness is the best state to be when drawing" That's so true. I always mess up my drawings when someone is watching, so frustrating.
this was amazing. i always adore Marshalls voice and his personality... it comes through his drawings as well... i only started drawing with pen sometimes last year and he is right, it's the same for me too, if you draw with a tool that is permanent/defiant/and on impulse you wont fuss and bother redrawing something a thousand times to get there.. you will actually just do better or you wont take yourself too seriously and just do more reps (drawing more drawings rather than making one good one). Pen, marker, ink, sharpies, etc these are all good tools to get you sketching on impulse. ofcourse you may not be ready to do this but definitely give it a go.. itll grow on you :) PS beautiful horse sketches even the super rough ones were just tangible and modern, masterly. It really makes me wanna take up horse drawing all of a sudden lol
Glad you found the video useful. Marshall's approach to drawing with a pen and the things that motivated him to start drawing that way are interesting to hear and consider for ourselves.
Surprisingly, the thing I learned from this video was the last shadow he drew under the horse. It’s amazing to see such a casual but intentional drawing
I really like the idea of "this will be garbage anyway, so I will". It is a great pressure reliever. I came here to have some notions about horse drawing and Im leaveing with this beautiful lesson for all my drawings. Thank you.
That front angle in the first set: being quadrupeds, of course their shoulders are much more rounded than a bipeds; easy to intellectualize, but that means their shoulder blades don't span across their backs, but slope steeply down from the withers to the sides. Sawhorse-fashion, so to speak. Grabbed a pencil and paper, and in 3 mintues sketched the most fluid, natural horse I've ever done. Thank you.
I love the energy your drawings have, much more expressive than most of the drawing guides out there. It does take experience to be able to do this, as you know....Horses are such a great model of energy and anatomy....Just keep drawing...... The hardest part for me is to get my lines to describe the rounded form and suggest weight and musculature rather than being a mere outline.
I LOVE this. It's motivational and inspirational whilst still being positive and very self-aware. It's not necessary to be so negative and critical all the time, and to me, this teaches me more than some videos that are trying so hard to teach things, whilst forgetting the most important factor in art: personality. Really good video.
When he described that you observe and then give it a go, then fail, then observe more and give it another go... I thought this wasn't a good thing, although is what comes more natural to me... so thank you for giving me permission to approach this part of art in a way that feels natural!
I am now in love with sketching with ink ever since I had this dream of seeing a deer while camping and I drew the deer and now I can't stop I started a year ago and I have finnish 2 sketch books from ink sketches
I could watch this even if it was hours and hours long! Such mesmerizing lines....his hands are dancing on the paper with the pens...the way he is holding the pen!!! And silky voice too! I imagined i was a little girl and he is a grandpa like art teacher! I wish he made this type of videos drawing different subjects! Magical activity. Million thanks!
I’d say pencils and erasers are like safety wheels in a sense that you can take them off when you feel comfortable, but for some people, it’s difficult to remove them because they know that it would be more hazardous.
Love it! It feels more like he's sitting next to you and explaining this like a grandpa would to his grandchild. Good craft also, those lines are beautiful!
Oh this was wonderful, came for ideas/instruction left with so much more. Truly a hilarious joy to watch and the angry horses about to give out a beat down were the best.
You described everything that goes through my mind whenever I draw human figures from imagination. Only I feel much more lost than you do. But now that I know that a master experiences the same thing, I don't feel so lost anymore. Thanks Marshall!
I love pen and Ink, im actualy learning tô use pencil and erases , because i was stuck into messy sketches with Ink for years , i think i built alot of confidence with Ink
His voice is like a combination of Brian Cranston and the late great Adam West. Just immediately captivates the ears. Drawings aren't too shabby either.
oh yes..this feeling of being watched and under pressure.... sometimes I like to show results more than the process, because I know the results are going to be better if I can be all on my own, my speed/tempo and no stress in the back of my mind. Although I am doing the exact same thing.
I just tried a few sketches and they look very good I was surprised you made me so at ease and explained every thing really good I'm proud of myself I'll keep on drawing thank you sir
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Love it! At the final drawing you add personality to the horse and that's what I think is one of my actual weaknesses when I draw. Thanks for the tips!
Not gonna lie, Marshall sounded like Fuhrer King Bradley from Full Metal Alchemist and it kinda made me chuckle a bit. Great video though, it helped me out quite a bit!
I'm so glad I watched your first Asking Pros video and met this guy. He's such a ray of sunshine and happiness. Makes me think what if Goldberg gave up wrestling and took up art :)
4:16...don't go over it.....oh darn, the original hoof was better! I am unfamiliar with Marshall Vandruff I have sketched horses in a fashion similar to this for over 50 years, having grown up with the Elaine Mitchell Silver Brumby series of books which were illustrated by Anette MacArthur Onslow. Her delightful pen and ink illustrations that evoked such a wonderful sense of playfulness, movement and mystery. Marshall went further than I would and personally, I prefer the initial sketch to the finished drawing. To me (not everyone) it lost some of its spontaneity each time he traced it, and became more of a cartoon. Perhaps that is what he were aiming for? Anyway, I am grateful to have found this and thankful you posted it.
"If the line goes shaky it's alright... I was doing these drawings late at night... cha cha cha" legend
Gabi I'd listen to this guy all night long. Cha cha cha.
after this line i scrolled to the comments thought allright it shall to be on ffirst and here you are man)) great vido! and coment )
"cha, cha, cha" indeed! :)
Drawing Blues Cha Cha cha
😂😂🤲🏻
Marshall Vandruff is a gem.
I always like when this guy speaks.
Marco Bucci so are you
@Kuush I thought the same. Yesterday i was watching a Marco Bucci Video. So i'am going in circles here, hanging out with the cool guys.
Marco Bucci you are also a gem
Marshall's voice is so mesmerising
remembers me of stanley parable
Sounds a bit like Norm McDonald
He sounds like a horse narrating how to draw horses. Getting the information strait from the horses mouth.
People named Marshall generally have a mesmerising voice
"One of the most important things about learning to draw is the ability to suffer trough a lot of bad drawings" I'm definitely in that part of the learning path.
Great video Marshal. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
I suffer so much, i feel like I'm burning in hell of incompetency. Because of that, pushing through my practice everyday is exhausting
@@claireyuan4195 that "suffering" is your skill compared to your expatations. That suffering is mindset. Like he said, it is part of progress, not just in drawing, but in dancing, acting, singing, playing...
Only important thing is what you will do with that suffering. If it cripples you, you are done. If it motivates you, you are on good tracts.
Think of suffering as a good tool because it means you are not happy with everything you draw, you know it can be better so work on it.
If you don't "suffer" it means you are in comfort zone. You are drawing something you allready know or you don't give a shit for progress.
Again, use "suffering" as a tool. The tool that makes you work harder, not tool thst cripples you.
How do we know he's sketching from imagination in this video? 🤔
With his voice, this guy could do audio books. XD
Or like a podcast or something
@@antoinelandry7534 they already has a podcast draftmen in this chanel!
snow king of nothing yeah I love this podcast ! It was irony hehehe
Reminds me of the narrator in Christmas story
5:00 one of greatest hits ever
There's a moment when putting down a special line, where you look at the line and it just brings everything around it to life. Even if it's something sketchy or doodly, when you put that line down and suddenly sparks pop and fly in your brain as if that line completed a circuit and you feel transcendent. Suddenly, if you ever had to make a line like that again you know you'll be able to do it with confidence next time and the time after that. The sparks don't stop, nor are they ever blinding.
Am I the only one mesmerizied by his voice?
No. He sounds very relaxing.
No. No you are not. It is beautiful.
No Yusuf there are millions of people like you & me! He is a great teacher as well artist!
He should be a book reader. The ones who read books for the audio. He'd be great. ;w;
His voice sounds like a cross between Adam West and Bryan Cranston
Had the pleasure of taking an 8 week class with marshall and I must say it was probably the greatest academic experience of my life. A true inspiration and imaginative talent, bravo!
Damn, I'm jealous! My best academic experience was a 5 day workshop with Aaron Blaise and Ronnie Williford, but that seems rather small compared to 2 months with Marshall! Stan and Marshall are definitely on my list to meet next, I hope they'll come to Europe some day.
Sketching with Pen increased my confidence and helped me deal with insecurities.
That's what I've been experimenting with. I've noticed the sketches I do in pen feel and look so different than if they were in pencil. Then when I went back to the pencil I did exactly what Marshall said: erase, try to fix it, erase again, try to fix it, eventually getting so frustrated that I no longer wanted to sketch. By far the hardest thing is going through so many awful drawings and trying to believe that it'll get better one day with practice.
@@_Nyxus_ I know right. It's depressing if you can't learn from your mistakes. You're gonna have to evaluate the problems like see what's wrong but in a bigger picture. Having someone to critique is also helpful.
For now im focused on anatomy because it really does help on knowing what to do and why it's there.
Bout to move on gestures and mannequin.
@@novski3175 I've had so many issues trying to get gestures down. I think sometimes we have issues trying to make things simplistic, at least I have that issue. So when looking at Proko when he's teaching gesture drawings, it looks so easy, but when I attempt it it just looks terrible. So I'm going back and forth trying to do gestures, fundamental shapes, and human "beans."
@@_Nyxus_ i think gestures are more of line of action.
I've tried commiting to perspective like Kim Jung Gi's method it's so advanced so I decided to learn anatomy first then move on to gestures then perspective.
I'm still new to anatomy and how and wherever the limits of bones n muscles.
@@novski3175 Yeah anatomy and proportions are a beast to tackle. Just learned about the 600 page sketchbook challenge in 30 days so maybe all of us should try that!
Marshall needs to narrate audiobooks. He is as vocally talented as he is visually talented!
"I don't think self consciousness is the best state to be when drawing"
That's so true. I always mess up my drawings when someone is watching, so frustrating.
I wouldn't mind if we need to wait longer for this kind of content. It is really good, and it would be great to see more of It.
Thank you, Stan
this was amazing. i always adore Marshalls voice and his personality... it comes through his drawings as well... i only started drawing with pen sometimes last year and he is right, it's the same for me too, if you draw with a tool that is permanent/defiant/and on impulse you wont fuss and bother redrawing something a thousand times to get there.. you will actually just do better or you wont take yourself too seriously and just do more reps (drawing more drawings rather than making one good one). Pen, marker, ink, sharpies, etc these are all good tools to get you sketching on impulse. ofcourse you may not be ready to do this but definitely give it a go.. itll grow on you :) PS beautiful horse sketches even the super rough ones were just tangible and modern, masterly. It really makes me wanna take up horse drawing all of a sudden lol
Glad you found the video useful. Marshall's approach to drawing with a pen and the things that motivated him to start drawing that way are interesting to hear and consider for ourselves.
Love Marshall's voice and way of teaching. And amazing amount of experience that shows in his drawings.
Surprisingly, the thing I learned from this video was the last shadow he drew under the horse. It’s amazing to see such a casual but intentional drawing
Marshall Vandruff is such a delight, that I would love if he had his own channel of just this.
Your like the best old person I’ve ever known of
Everything this man says is just pure gold. I've got so many small quotes written down by him that changed my outlook on drawing as a whole.
This voice over is absolutely Golden. Colour me entertained.
I think the thumbs down only came about someone traumatized by horses.
Probaly christopher reeve
@@v1sor1 Auch.
vaportrails999 😂😂
I really like the idea of "this will be garbage anyway, so I will". It is a great pressure reliever.
I came here to have some notions about horse drawing and Im leaveing with this beautiful lesson for all my drawings.
Thank you.
I love him! His voice is so calm , he made the whole video relatable and light (He sounds like my dad when he's coaching me while drawing)
That front angle in the first set: being quadrupeds, of course their shoulders are much more rounded than a bipeds; easy to intellectualize, but that means their shoulder blades don't span across their backs, but slope steeply down from the withers to the sides. Sawhorse-fashion, so to speak. Grabbed a pencil and paper, and in 3 mintues sketched the most fluid, natural horse I've ever done. Thank you.
I love the energy your drawings have, much more expressive than most of the drawing guides out there. It does take experience to be able to do this, as you know....Horses are such a great model of energy and anatomy....Just keep drawing...... The hardest part for me is to get my lines to describe the rounded form and suggest weight and musculature rather than being a mere outline.
I LOVE this. It's motivational and inspirational whilst still being positive and very self-aware. It's not necessary to be so negative and critical all the time, and to me, this teaches me more than some videos that are trying so hard to teach things, whilst forgetting the most important factor in art: personality. Really good video.
Marshall is a super legend. Dude is one of today’s elite artist
I love Marshall
He's awesome
I love when this guy shows up. he's always so peppy.
somebody needs to take this man to disney and dreamworks for recording the characters voices. hes amazing in drawing and in singing
Thanks you so much Mr. Marshall Vandruff. It was real wonderful to see and hear you. And thank you for all your advice!
When he described that you observe and then give it a go, then fail, then observe more and give it another go... I thought this wasn't a good thing, although is what comes more natural to me... so thank you for giving me permission to approach this part of art in a way that feels natural!
Marshall is such a good teacher and very calming to listen to haha. Their podcast, Draftsmen, is really good too.
Wow I love this guy and the daring tails he creates!
I am now in love with sketching with ink ever since I had this dream of seeing a deer while camping and I drew the deer and now I can't stop I started a year ago and I have finnish 2 sketch books from ink sketches
I could watch this even if it was hours and hours long! Such mesmerizing lines....his hands are dancing on the paper with the pens...the way he is holding the pen!!! And silky voice too! I imagined i was a little girl and he is a grandpa like art teacher! I wish he made this type of videos drawing different subjects! Magical activity.
Million thanks!
I’d say pencils and erasers are like safety wheels in a sense that you can take them off when you feel comfortable, but for some people, it’s difficult to remove them because they know that it would be more hazardous.
8:34 I agree with that so much. It's going to take time. Your going to work through a lot of bad drawings and bad days before something turns out good
This guy is hilarious! Love him.
such a beautiful human being, explaining such interesting things in a wholesome way, thank you for making this video
That Manga G nib looks amazing...I want some.
i could listen to this guy ramble about whatever he wants for like 6 hours
I love Marshall, I learned a lot of art wisdom just from listening to draftsmen podcast and his videos.
In my opinion the very first drawing is the best by far.
Love it! It feels more like he's sitting next to you and explaining this like a grandpa would to his grandchild. Good craft also, those lines are beautiful!
You're a wizard, Marshall
This is the definition of quality content! Amazing artist
love his voice and his art
Can you tell him his voice is a blessing
Oh this was wonderful, came for ideas/instruction left with so much more. Truly a hilarious joy to watch and the angry horses about to give out a beat down were the best.
good god someone get this guy his own youtube channel
You described everything that goes through my mind whenever I draw human figures from imagination. Only I feel much more lost than you do. But now that I know that a master experiences the same thing, I don't feel so lost anymore. Thanks Marshall!
Marshal is good even when self conscious
Enjoyed but what I love is watching you & Stan together when you crack each other up.
This dude is my FAVOrite!!!
Nice work. Makes me feel like drawing again
I Missed Marshall so much.
Watching you making those drawings is so enjoyable! Really satisfying :)
Damn, those lines are so sexy
I love your perspective series!
I was thinking of drawing horses this morning this came out.How convenient. THANK YOU PROKO and MARSHALL.
Abdullah Naim it does happen ey. One time I was thinking of adding a bookshelf to my drawing then a bookshelf tutorial of sorts appeared in my feed.
I could listen to him all day and i wouldn't get bored for 1 second
5:00 This proves you are a legend. I like your shaky style... Keep it up
Marshall, Marshall, Marshall. It's so pleasant hearing your voice. This man breathes creativity!
Marshall is simply a great artist as well as a great man in general
Practice makes perfect, right. I enjoyed your lesson!
Man I love listening to Marshall Vandruff talk.
besides the art part, Disney should also hire Marshall's voice in the production
I love pen and Ink, im actualy learning tô use pencil and erases , because i was stuck into messy sketches with Ink for years , i think i built alot of confidence with Ink
This video is awesome I'm a horse lover and I'm always drawing them this really helped thanks
Dang Marshall, you draw horses very well...
Wow! Thanks Sir Marshall! More videos like this please.
I keep coming back to this I really love his technique and his positive direction...
thanks marshall for posting this invaluable late night insight. very inspirational indeed. cha cha cha!
I could listen to him all day! What a pleasure. Thank you for sharing with us.
I loved how he refined his initial sketch.
His voice is like a combination of Brian Cranston and the late great Adam West. Just immediately captivates the ears. Drawings aren't too shabby either.
That voice... awesome!
I can not describe in words how much I love Marshall!
This is a price-less video. I'm storing this forever and showing it to my children so they want to draw a lot
oh yes..this feeling of being watched and under pressure.... sometimes I like to show results more than the process, because I know the results are going to be better if I can be all on my own, my speed/tempo and no stress in the back of my mind. Although I am doing the exact same thing.
btw, great demo of how to use tracing paper to correct on your initial sketch and render a drawing.
I love this guy! 12 days of Proko is so fun!!
I just tried a few sketches and they look very good I was surprised you made me so at ease and explained every thing really good I'm proud of myself I'll keep on drawing thank you sir
Love it!
At the final drawing you add personality to the horse and that's what I think is one of my actual weaknesses when I draw. Thanks for the tips!
I love this guy. So funny. Great voice
Wow amazing man ..very fast drawing horse 👏👍👍
Marshall should do some narrated pre-drawing mediation sessions .. i just love it!
i could see him drawning horses for HOURS
Not gonna lie, Marshall sounded like Fuhrer King Bradley from Full Metal Alchemist and it kinda made me chuckle a bit. Great video though, it helped me out quite a bit!
I haven't opened the video but I already know I'll be motivated
I love his voice, it's like listening to a podcast or an audiobook.
Soooo, just to be clear, we're just not going to mention Vandruff's immaculate Space Ghost impression?
This guy should narrate audio books. His voice is aural gold....
Thanks, Sean Connery. You are an inspiration!
Love this lesson ... and your awesome voice! You would be a very fun teacher to have!
Awesome videos proko , im learning a lot from you!
Ale Art it was marshal anyway
Zo Zo i know but “Proko” is the name of the channel, all of them involved, helps a lot :)
I'm so glad I watched your first Asking Pros video and met this guy. He's such a ray of sunshine and happiness. Makes me think what if Goldberg gave up wrestling and took up art :)
4:16...don't go over it.....oh darn, the original hoof was better!
I am unfamiliar with Marshall Vandruff
I have sketched horses in a fashion similar to this for over 50 years, having grown up with the Elaine Mitchell Silver Brumby series of books which were illustrated by Anette MacArthur Onslow. Her delightful pen and ink illustrations that evoked such a wonderful sense of playfulness, movement and mystery.
Marshall went further than I would and personally, I prefer the initial sketch to the finished drawing. To me (not everyone) it lost some of its spontaneity each time he traced it, and became more of a cartoon. Perhaps that is what he were aiming for?
Anyway, I am grateful to have found this and thankful you posted it.
Love this demo! Especially doing horses.
I love this guy, thank you for bringing him in ~
His lines are just pure joy.