Not sure if this is going to come off like a back handed compliment or not but.. since TableTopTactics abandoned the fantasy players, this channel is now the best AoS channel on RUclips. You guys are killing it, keep it up! 😄
Just a reminder, Spiteswarm Hive only adds +3 to NORMAL moves and charges. So if you run or auto run you won't get that 3". Warsinger adds +3 to all movement though not just run rolls to clarify what you stated in your list explanations.
Yep Michael is aware of that he never added the hive onto a run move. And he misspoke on the warsinger explanation. thank you for clarifying that though people are going to be watching this to see what is possible for the new sylvaneth. It would be helpful it Michael explained things correctly lol
also got some sweet metal Kroxigors :D and i converted my old Kroq-Gar to a Saurus Scar-Veteran on Aggradon as they are the same size :) used the Metal Carnososaur and an old Scar Veteran on cold one, the one with skaven pelts :D
Happy to see my trees do so well. I may drop spellsinger for warsinger, too. Seems to help things overall. Warsong Rev has been a waste of points in my last few games.
Great battle report again! Love the layout.. I have became accustomed to micheals gittiness when things are looking up! Always enjoyable! Looking forward to seeing more battle reports with ionus cryptborn lists!! Keep up the amazing work fellas!! You guys really put out the ideal battle reports as far as presentation and competitive lists is concerned!! Can't top your guys quality! Merry Xmas!!
Merry Christmas to you as well my friend. I am just being myself so I am really glad you enjoy it. Your positive and supportive comments are the fuel that keep us going. P.S. we are filming a special christmas episode so stay tuned for that!
@BattleshockWargaming your boy will be about it!! If my wife loves me at all.. I will have an ionus cryptborn Christmas gift waiting for me!! Lol If she doesn't that's grounds for termination! Lol so while I assemble and paint I will be able to check out your vids! This will push my stormcast army over 26,000 points. So it will be a pretty big milestone!
Great battle report- that was really fun! I'll take a BR with Sylvaneth any day of the week! I like how Belthanos looks and his abilities are pretty good, but I find his damage lacking. I would prefer to have Drycha almost every the time. It sounds like his abilities performed really well this game. I couldn't really tell since I wasn't thinking about movement stuff as a viewer.
IMO Belthanos is a support piece that can fight if needed, he isnt at outright strong as some of our other hammers but fundamentally changes how the army can play.
in battleround 4 your Warsong Revenant cast Verdurous Harmony, that is a ress not a heal.however, do not think it would have an effect on the outcome of the match. keep making cool battle reports🤩
Due, Sylvaneth is the army that scares me the most. When properly piloted it has infinet possibilities...You can never take your foot off the gas against them
you are correct. some players play to conservative against sylvaneth and that lets me just pick all the engagements and just tear them apart. Need to shut them down and stop all the movement
Hey guys just wanted to say great batrep, though I think you got one rule wrong. Regarding Primal Dice, like with blizzard at @30:05 it doesn't work like that. To have the spell unstoppable you have to roll two sixes but at least one needs to be rolled in the original casting roll and at least another one needs to be rollled in the Primal Dice added later to the roll, you can see it in the GHB ruling for Primal Dice.
It can be any of the dice from original cast and primal "When a primal magic dice modifies a casting roll, if two or more of the dice in the casting roll and primal magic dice are 6s, and the caster did not suffer a primal miscast, the spell is successfully cast and cannot be unbound. In addition, the caster cannot attempt to cast any more spells in that phase and both players receive 1 primal magic dice."
@@BattleshockWargaming yes, "two or more of the dice in the casting roll AND primal magic dice are 6s" This means there needs to be a 6 in both the casting roll AND the primal magic dice. Otherwise it would say OR instead of AND.
Aggradons are good, but you need to out them where you need them so they don't get picked off before they make an impact. They're amazing for passing the double by popping the Starseer 5+ Ward, buffing them with Mystic Shield, and shipping them in to blender for two turns.
mystic shield and the ward would make them much more survivable and also make their rage meter actually work. Matt and i were talking off camera about how it can be hard to pick when to use that ward ability. Im in favor of battle round 2 just in case i get doubled going into 3
@@BattleshockWargaming I've run Aggradons quite a bit lately, and they're my top performers. They've never dissapointed when I get them in the fights they should be in.
can someone explain to me how durthu has 7 attacks ? while also being able to strike in melee and get out before anybody can fight back ? what is this, it looks utterly broken as there seem to be absolutely no way to stop this or even hurt the guy. While he casually dish out 15-20 wounds a turn. Its nowhere on his warscroll so I am very confused.
Durthu gets an extra attack for being near a tree. D3 additional attacks for a relic. And the strike and fade is an army wide rule. Put it all together you have a cruise missile
Aggradons used correctly can be our best hammer in coalesced. They need placing where you want them and really are only good in 6s. They need some buffs though as well. They’ve always been my MVP. FYI the hero phase move happens at the start so before spells.
He was holding out for a good opportunity, but it should have prob been used in BR 2 or 3. Michael and Matt talked about this briefly in the wrap up. Thanks for watching our channel! We appreciate you :)
My buddy plays Seraphon and always gives my Stormcast a run for their money. I am VERY cautious of his Aggradons adter he wiped out 2 units of 5 Vindicators at the top of the first round on his turn. Getting a hero move is really strong. Ggs tho, it was a dope battle report to watch.
Thank you man, Glad you enjoyed the battle report. We have a new one every week! It is possible for aggradons to put in the work but the stars have to align just right
Great report, and fantastic armies. Ive been away from AoS for a while. Can you use cp’s on allies? You used it on the sce allies to Keep Them from running.
Hey guys thank you for your battle reports which are really cool!!, now i'm bit confuse about warsinger. I think warsinger is an aspect of war and cant be taken by the warsong revenant, only aspect of renewal. Please confirm that
You need visibility to perform a dispell on an endless spell. The spiteswarm hive was in the middle of a wildwood, so Matt was unable to interact with it. Thanks for the comment! We appreciate you.
OldBlood on Foot only gives +1 wound to Saurus Warriors and Saurus Guard. Doesn't work on Kroxigor. I also think he missed making rider attacks with his Aggradons.
Good catch on the old blood +1 wound, i just checked and Matt remembered the rider attacks when he fought into the vanguard hunters but he just kinda whiffed
I need to know and im sorry to write so late, how is it that spirit of durght can just tp out before the hit back in combat i dont know how he does this and what phase its in when he does it
This is a battle trait available to all Sylvaneth models included in a Sylvaneth army. In YOUR turn, after fighting with a unit, you may redeploy. You can only use this ability once in each of your turns. Hope that helps :) Rule can be found in the Sylvaneth Battle Tome or on Wahapedia
Not sure if it's weird to ask but what state are you guys based in? You've mentioned a couple GT's around the country so not sure whether we're in the same circuit
Have to watch this After Work but my Games as seraphon as sylvaneth are Auto looses vs starborn lets See If sylvaneth can finally Take Out Dinos. So still rooting for my trees
Starborn historically has been a tough match for sylvaneth, but im hoping not having to rely on the hive is going to make that a much more favorable matchup in the future.
We have friends or friends of friends come play sometimes yes. Usually we will meet and play with someone first before asking them to come film with us
Its really easy, its mostly drybrushing greys and then whites to get the base white of all the trees, Then is screamer pink on all the branches, dry brushed with emperors children, fulgrim and then white on the ends. all the weapons on done with aethermatic blue contrast.
Did Durthu run and charge in sylvaneth first turn? At least you said "ran" in the video. Also, I feel like off camera you should correct mistakes like putting the kurnoths in combat on Seraphon second turn. It was a huge misplay and would be nice to see the game prolong rather than being over by a bad play. I feel like people watching want to see a game with as little mistakes as possible, so defiinitely feel like mistakes like that are okay to correct for a greater battle rep. But just my opinion of course. Either way nice to see Michael and the Sylvaneth again though!
Yes Durthu ran and charged turn one to get into combat. We try to avoid major mistakes as much as possible without influencing each others decision making processes. From my perspective it was not a mistake from how i deployed the kurnoths that if you tagged the dryads you were going to have to fight the hammer unit standing right behind them. In retrospect it was a misplay for matt to trade poorly into a screen but those decisions are easier to see sometimes after they have been done.
We love the new Belthanos miniature! He really cranks Sylvaneth to 11, as they were already a quite strong faction. I expect to see at least 1 Sylvaneth army podium at LOV this year.
Well ive played alot of tough games with seraphon and unfortunately i have certainly lost more games with them they I have won. We were hoping that the damage reduction and save stacking was going to play big into this game but sylvaneth can really dump the damage
New to this, but how does Durthu get so many attacks ? He only has 3 on his profile. And wtf is this strike and fade bullcrap ? coming from 40k this looks just stupid broken, like really. Cannot even fight in melee wtf
Durthu gets one additional attack for being near a tree, D3 for the artifact of power, and then strike and fade is an army wide rule for the sylvaneth. put it all together you get a cruise missle durthu
Not sure if this is going to come off like a back handed compliment or not but.. since TableTopTactics abandoned the fantasy players, this channel is now the best AoS channel on RUclips. You guys are killing it, keep it up! 😄
That is a huge compliment so thank you very much.
Tabletop tactics is tooo silly
The paint scheme on the Sylvaneth is amazing
Thank you so much Ironfather, I am a big fan of the cherry blossom look for the sylvaneth so i was very excited to paint these guys up.
Just a reminder, Spiteswarm Hive only adds +3 to NORMAL moves and charges. So if you run or auto run you won't get that 3". Warsinger adds +3 to all movement though not just run rolls to clarify what you stated in your list explanations.
Yep Michael is aware of that he never added the hive onto a run move. And he misspoke on the warsinger explanation. thank you for clarifying that though people are going to be watching this to see what is possible for the new sylvaneth. It would be helpful it Michael explained things correctly lol
also got some sweet metal Kroxigors :D
and i converted my old Kroq-Gar to a Saurus Scar-Veteran on Aggradon as they are the same size :)
used the Metal Carnososaur and an old Scar Veteran on cold one, the one with skaven pelts :D
I like the old metal Carnosaur! I think its so cool to see classic models like that still getting love and still getting play on the table top.
How many threes can you roll on two dice?
Michael: Yes
Nothing but 3 up saves for days
Happy to see my trees do so well. I may drop spellsinger for warsinger, too. Seems to help things overall. Warsong Rev has been a waste of points in my last few games.
Warsinger might be the way moving forward in this new belthanos world
Great battle report again! Love the layout.. I have became accustomed to micheals gittiness when things are looking up! Always enjoyable! Looking forward to seeing more battle reports with ionus cryptborn lists!! Keep up the amazing work fellas!! You guys really put out the ideal battle reports as far as presentation and competitive lists is concerned!! Can't top your guys quality! Merry Xmas!!
Merry Christmas to you as well my friend. I am just being myself so I am really glad you enjoy it. Your positive and supportive comments are the fuel that keep us going.
P.S. we are filming a special christmas episode so stay tuned for that!
@BattleshockWargaming your boy will be about it!! If my wife loves me at all.. I will have an ionus cryptborn Christmas gift waiting for me!! Lol If she doesn't that's grounds for termination! Lol so while I assemble and paint I will be able to check out your vids! This will push my stormcast army over 26,000 points. So it will be a pretty big milestone!
Great battle report- that was really fun! I'll take a BR with Sylvaneth any day of the week!
I like how Belthanos looks and his abilities are pretty good, but I find his damage lacking. I would prefer to have Drycha almost every the time. It sounds like his abilities performed really well this game. I couldn't really tell since I wasn't thinking about movement stuff as a viewer.
IMO Belthanos is a support piece that can fight if needed, he isnt at outright strong as some of our other hammers but fundamentally changes how the army can play.
we dont need hammers as Sylv, for that we have Swordnoths or Durthu
merry christmas guys! wishing yall the best for all the content you've provided this year
Thanks a lot Luke! We appreciate it very much :) Big plans for 2024!
in battleround 4 your Warsong Revenant cast Verdurous Harmony, that is a ress not a heal.however, do not think it would have an effect on the outcome of the match.
keep making cool battle reports🤩
Your correct i miss remembered that rule, would have been better to res the model than heal the wounded kurnoth.
That’s going to be great matchup! 😊
Due, Sylvaneth is the army that scares me the most. When properly piloted it has infinet possibilities...You can never take your foot off the gas against them
you are correct. some players play to conservative against sylvaneth and that lets me just pick all the engagements and just tear them apart. Need to shut them down and stop all the movement
Early Spoiler Shield
Edit: Finally my Boys the Seraphon are back at it again
Hey guys just wanted to say great batrep, though I think you got one rule wrong. Regarding Primal Dice, like with blizzard at @30:05 it doesn't work like that. To have the spell unstoppable you have to roll two sixes but at least one needs to be rolled in the original casting roll and at least another one needs to be rollled in the Primal Dice added later to the roll, you can see it in the GHB ruling for Primal Dice.
It can be any of the dice from original cast and primal "When a primal magic dice modifies a casting roll, if two or more of the dice in the casting roll and primal magic dice are 6s, and the caster did not suffer a primal miscast, the spell is successfully cast and cannot be unbound. In addition, the caster cannot attempt to cast any more spells in that phase and both players receive 1 primal magic dice."
@@BattleshockWargaming yes, "two or more of the dice in the casting roll AND primal magic dice are 6s" This means there needs to be a 6 in both the casting roll AND the primal magic dice. Otherwise it would say OR instead of AND.
Hey Guys, what was allowing Durthu to Run and still shoot?
Cheating thats what lol. Michael should not have been able to shoot that first turn.
Matt was a great addition to the channel, hopefully we see him again soon
Oh yeah, he'll be back :)
Aggradons are good, but you need to out them where you need them so they don't get picked off before they make an impact.
They're amazing for passing the double by popping the Starseer 5+ Ward, buffing them with Mystic Shield, and shipping them in to blender for two turns.
mystic shield and the ward would make them much more survivable and also make their rage meter actually work. Matt and i were talking off camera about how it can be hard to pick when to use that ward ability. Im in favor of battle round 2 just in case i get doubled going into 3
@@BattleshockWargaming I've run Aggradons quite a bit lately, and they're my top performers. They've never dissapointed when I get them in the fights they should be in.
can someone explain to me how durthu has 7 attacks ? while also being able to strike in melee and get out before anybody can fight back ? what is this, it looks utterly broken as there seem to be absolutely no way to stop this or even hurt the guy. While he casually dish out 15-20 wounds a turn. Its nowhere on his warscroll so I am very confused.
Durthu gets an extra attack for being near a tree. D3 additional attacks for a relic. And the strike and fade is an army wide rule. Put it all together you have a cruise missile
Aggradons used correctly can be our best hammer in coalesced. They need placing where you want them and really are only good in 6s. They need some buffs though as well. They’ve always been my MVP. FYI the hero phase move happens at the start so before spells.
Thanks for watching our video! Aggradons seem that they can slap if used correctly. We will put them on again soon!
Love to see the lizards, lizards for life!
Great game. Belthanos seems really strong. His output is much higher than it appears.
Yes, he has the potential to do 28 damage, with solid rend. Pretty scary model for 360ish points lol
Can you use the Belthanos ability in the Realm Shaper?
Good battle. I think he forgot his starseer can give a 5+ ward to some units once per battle.
He was holding out for a good opportunity, but it should have prob been used in BR 2 or 3. Michael and Matt talked about this briefly in the wrap up. Thanks for watching our channel! We appreciate you :)
Building my Belthanos watching this, ready to put into my treelords army
Belthanos with all trees is going to be a real force, imagine him running around with multiple durthus
09:55 so durthu has Run and Shoot?😉15:02
no run and shoot for Durthu michael is a big old cheater! lol
Great fun report. 3 months since we've sen some Tzeech boys. Lets get those bid birds back on the table
We just filmed a special xmas report Guild of Summoners vs Xmas Squigs! I am going to power edit it, hopefully it will premiere on December 27th :)
@@BattleshockWargaming woooooo awesome stuff
PDREX LET’S GOOOO!
LEts GOOOOO
My buddy plays Seraphon and always gives my Stormcast a run for their money. I am VERY cautious of his Aggradons adter he wiped out 2 units of 5 Vindicators at the top of the first round on his turn. Getting a hero move is really strong.
Ggs tho, it was a dope battle report to watch.
Thank you man, Glad you enjoyed the battle report. We have a new one every week! It is possible for aggradons to put in the work but the stars have to align just right
Great report, and fantastic armies.
Ive been away from AoS for a while. Can you use cp’s on allies? You used it on the sce allies to Keep Them from running.
You can use cp on any friendly model/unit unless stated otherwise :)
How did you get that iridescent effect on belthanos?? Absolutely gorgeous
That is Turbo Dork color shift paint and some dry brush :)
Love the sylaneth theme...
What did you use as the mystic shield?
I've just been thinking lately that I need help remembering all the shit going on.
that mystic shield can be bought on grey matter games website
Of course I'm rooting for Belthanos, no pun intended! 🎄 That Sylvaneth army looks so gorgeous, really nice colour scheme. 😍
Thank you Void! I love the cherry blossom theme on the trees i think it really pops
Nice, I'm Ill anyway, perfect to watch from bed with a lil coffee again.
Nothing makes coffee better like watching some warhammer while you drink.
Hey guys thank you for your battle reports which are really cool!!, now i'm bit confuse about warsinger. I think warsinger is an aspect of war and cant be taken by the warsong revenant, only aspect of renewal. Please confirm that
Aspects of war are linked to Sylvaneth Heros which the warsinger is a Sylvaneth Hero.
@@BattleshockWargamingthank for the head up!!
@@joseignaciobasciani8159 no problem glad i can help
Why didn’t he ever dispelled the sylvaneth endless? Was there a tactical reason? Or just forgot
You need visibility to perform a dispell on an endless spell. The spiteswarm hive was in the middle of a wildwood, so Matt was unable to interact with it. Thanks for the comment! We appreciate you.
OldBlood on Foot only gives +1 wound to Saurus Warriors and Saurus Guard. Doesn't work on Kroxigor.
I also think he missed making rider attacks with his Aggradons.
Good catch on the old blood +1 wound, i just checked and Matt remembered the rider attacks when he fought into the vanguard hunters but he just kinda whiffed
I need to know and im sorry to write so late, how is it that spirit of durght can just tp out before the hit back in combat i dont know how he does this and what phase its in when he does it
Strike and fade is a sylvaneth battle trait. In your turn, one unit can teleport away after it fights
Thank you I will show this to a friend of mine that playes sylven its a trick he wil be happy to be able to use
Hello. New Sylvaneth player here. What ability are you using to strike and fade with Durthu?
This is a battle trait available to all Sylvaneth models included in a Sylvaneth army. In YOUR turn, after fighting with a unit, you may redeploy. You can only use this ability once in each of your turns. Hope that helps :) Rule can be found in the Sylvaneth Battle Tome or on Wahapedia
@@BattleshockWargaming Fantastic thank you. I have the tome on order but I was just wondering as I was watching :). Great content as always!
Is the revanent because of the aura or is it because you always choose a same subject of the same subjection your order mind!
Both these are in my pile of shame. I'm concentrating on seraphon ATM. 😂
Make that seraphon army my friend, it is such a fun army to paint and play!
Go Belthanos!!!
He is a GREAT model, both rules and model are amazing 👏
Not sure if it's weird to ask but what state are you guys based in? You've mentioned a couple GT's around the country so not sure whether we're in the same circuit
We are in the portland metro area and we have another group out of boise
Have to watch this After Work but my Games as seraphon as sylvaneth are Auto looses vs starborn lets See If sylvaneth can finally Take Out Dinos. So still rooting for my trees
Starborn historically has been a tough match for sylvaneth, but im hoping not having to rely on the hive is going to make that a much more favorable matchup in the future.
Merry Christmas Guys
You too!!
Great br as always, btw belthanos gives run and charge, but not run and shoot.
Thanks for the reminder, Michael is a great big cheater lol. But seriously i know he knows that so idk why he was trying to do pot shots with durthu
Are you guys in the PNW? do you have subscribers come in and play?
We have friends or friends of friends come play sometimes yes. Usually we will meet and play with someone first before asking them to come film with us
Eee Smiitr sweet potato fries with some cheese on top with a so sweet sauce Chinese fries
Would you be willing to share your sylvaneth recipe, that's exactly what I want to paint.
Its really easy, its mostly drybrushing greys and then whites to get the base white of all the trees, Then is screamer pink on all the branches, dry brushed with emperors children, fulgrim and then white on the ends. all the weapons on done with aethermatic blue contrast.
2:08
awesome
Thanks for the comment! Hope you enjoy the battle
Did Durthu run and charge in sylvaneth first turn? At least you said "ran" in the video.
Also, I feel like off camera you should correct mistakes like putting the kurnoths in combat on Seraphon second turn. It was a huge misplay and would be nice to see the game prolong rather than being over by a bad play. I feel like people watching want to see a game with as little mistakes as possible, so defiinitely feel like mistakes like that are okay to correct for a greater battle rep. But just my opinion of course.
Either way nice to see Michael and the Sylvaneth again though!
Yes Durthu ran and charged turn one to get into combat. We try to avoid major mistakes as much as possible without influencing each others decision making processes. From my perspective it was not a mistake from how i deployed the kurnoths that if you tagged the dryads you were going to have to fight the hammer unit standing right behind them. In retrospect it was a misplay for matt to trade poorly into a screen but those decisions are easier to see sometimes after they have been done.
@@BattleshockWargaming I meant run and shoot, as you shot with durthu turn one.
@@kalleejnar oh yeah he shot, michael def screwed that up. I know michael knows not to do that. What a cheating cheater! lol
@@BattleshockWargaming Haha not trying to call out a cheater here, I just thought I had missed that Durthu have run and shoot all this time
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We love the new Belthanos miniature! He really cranks Sylvaneth to 11, as they were already a quite strong faction. I expect to see at least 1 Sylvaneth army podium at LOV this year.
Tell me blizzard is disgusting without telling me.
Michael- say no more.
Blizzard is freaking game changing. i basically never leave home without it anymore
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Dang feels like Seraphon is really struggling to win in your games.
Well ive played alot of tough games with seraphon and unfortunately i have certainly lost more games with them they I have won. We were hoping that the damage reduction and save stacking was going to play big into this game but sylvaneth can really dump the damage
New to this, but how does Durthu get so many attacks ? He only has 3 on his profile. And wtf is this strike and fade bullcrap ? coming from 40k this looks just stupid broken, like really. Cannot even fight in melee wtf
Durthu gets one additional attack for being near a tree, D3 for the artifact of power, and then strike and fade is an army wide rule for the sylvaneth. put it all together you get a cruise missle durthu