I'm an old man and not the sharpest tool in the shed. Your explanation of the sites is spot-on and digestible. Ironically, I'm not even searching for a web platform. I just stumbled on your site. It is well done. I subscribed for the entertainment value and hopefully to learn something along the way.
Your ability to tell stories is thoroughly enjoyable. Humorous, informative, visually fun and well delivered. Whatever gift or talent it is you have/have crafted, totally scalable. Please keep it up. You’re doing us a civil service
Just discovered your stuff Steve. Honestly so refreshing to watch something on the topic of web builders that's not clearly paid for. This space can be really challenging to get honest opinions.
This is the best breakdown I've seen! Your delivery was very clear and concise and helped me really understand what each platform has to over. Bravo 👏🏾
Thank you so much for this content. I'm researching this and appreciated the brief demo on each site too. The color coding of your bookshelf cracks me up!
THANK YOU. Starting a small business and the web design component is a bit daunting to me. I greatly appreciate your clear comparisons. I will definitely be using your affiliate links!
I’m surprised and disappointed you didn’t cover Framer-which for me, as a 30 year designer, is the best website builder there is. Any chance you might review it?
Can’t believe the author didn’t even mention Oxygen Builder. I’m both a designer and a developer, and with Oxygen, I can create whatever I imagine or whatever my client wants. I’m not limited by anything - I can use modules, or I can write my own code.
Dude - you are AMAZING!!! You should be an actor. And your teaching style is incredibly clear and so easy to follow. I should know; I've been teaching classes for 30 years. Thank you for the fabulous comparison, and I wish your business well!
You rock dude! Pun intended! As your music is amazing too!... Thank you for being such a huge source of high quality information delivered in such a friendly and clear way! Gamechanger!
Great video! I wanted to touch base on Shopify - It does have a bit more customization than you stated. When customizing you can create templates for other types of pages. So instead of just editing the home page layout, you can create product specific templates, or collection templates, and then connect those afterward. This gives you a lot more options in terms of customization.
What website builder would you recommend, if I only want a simple website that will be about one database and options for the user to search in it or search for results most similar to what he entered?
As an artist restarting my career I found this video really helpful. I only have a couple items to sell on a store right now and its been really difficult to find and understand what platform works best for that. I don't feel like I need all the templates and design stuff or a huge storefront. Hadn't heard of carrd before but I like the price and simplicity. Hopefully a stripe or paypal widget can get me where I want. Would love a video on it.
I think that's you're approaching it so smartly - start with something simple and low-price like Carrd and just use a Stripe widget. You can always get more complicated if you need!
BIG Props for this and your other videos. Than you sooo much for all the help. How did you get into affiliate marketing? Its seems a hard biz to get into. A little confusing on where to start. ANY advice would be very appriciated!! Thank You In Advance.
To put Wordpress more in "website builder" territory, you need to add a builder theme like Divi or Elementor. With those, Wordpress becomes much more user friendly and builder-like.
SBW missed the boat on that point exactly! all the sites suggested are garbage, so we do ZipWP to build all our websites Elementor or Spectra on top of ASTRA. Kadence is washed up,
Awesome video! I'm planning to start a business in the coming months, and this video gave me great insights into which webpage could do the job! Thanks
Great video and analysis. What's your take on the Elementor page builder and their hosting service? Together, they start to resemble website builders with their dedicated hosting platform like the ones you covered but they are still in WordPress.
Not clear how this is related to the web host one is using. Suppose I want to build a web page using the host Hostinger, or Bluehost, or whatever. How do I know whether I can use any of these? If I start with any of these web builders, how does this constrain me to use certain web hosts? It's like you're talking about a separate universe here.
I keep asking this same question, and am getting NO answers anywhere... Seems the ONLY software for this is either $50-$1200/mo creation platforms like Adobe DW for ultra professional web presences, or free useless software that is no better than manually coding a single page. I already HAVE a domain and hosting service, so WHERE the heck to I get a WYSIWYG program to create a site without knowing Java, JSON, CMS and CSS??? I don't have time to learn this, I have a business to run...
Most of these cannont be used on different hosts, the companies own their own hosting and force you to use theres. Unless you have a static webiste, which in that case you can build in webflow and then get the html and host it on your own host.
@@edmundcox9224 Websites are not cheap despite what they advertise, but if you just need a basic brochure site you can build one on google business profile, with very little knowledge, if you need something to bring you leads, then you will need to hire out.
I believe WordPress can be used on any host. However I may be wrong so do your own research just in case. It's also tough to use I hear unless your a pro.
What about website speed and ping times. Are some of these options better at automatically condensing code, compressing media, etc? For maximum responsiveness?
I just found your channel and I enjoyed it immensely. You definitely earned my subscription today. Looking forward to exploring your other videos and all upcoming videos. I really learned a lot from this video and your style of presentation was so refreshing.
Steve, I thought your explanation of the difference between these website builders and WP was crystal clear, and I couldn’t agree with you more. For a simple guy like myself who is just trying to build a simple website for my humble tea business with no prior website building experience, this video really hit home for me. I would love to do a total custom build and make a spectacular website via WP, but then how to make it a blog with ecommerce functioning? How to connect payment options? How to ensure it’s all secure? How to keep it all updated? How to make it responsive? How to figure out shipping and taxes that change? …you get my point. And I definitely get yours. All of that is learnable and doable through WP I’m sure. But do I want to spend the time to become a website building expert, or do I want a functioning website with all that essentially taken care of so I can focus on the business.
what are the storage limitation on squarespace? When I was doing a trial period, I really struggled uploading the photos because it will reach maximum photos everytime?
Is there one that you'd recommend that has the best security features? I need a website that has some public pages, but also "members only" pages that requires the member to have a password. The password can be the same for all members that I provide to them, or it can be where each member has their own log-in and creates their own password. Thanks for any tips on this!
Thank you Steve for sharing with a balance of clarity and brevity. Also for exposing the existance of Carrd. Many of my questions were answered across products.
Thank you so much for this video! You are a filmmaker and this is very rare here on youtube. As well thank you for using music only, where it make sense. I've enjoyed and learned from this video a lot!
Are there any tools left that let you develop your site locally and the upload to your hosting and don't have to pay monthly fee, just one time software tool price?
I learn wonderfully by your teaching style. No overly enthusiastic energy which would give me anxiety. I'm taking over my husband's web site and exiting GoDadddy and WordPress. Screw that mess. Re: your bookshelf. I organize my husband's golf shirts mimicking the pattern of the color wheel. Rainbows of everything golf. Short, long, slacks separated and color coded. It's so pretty. He gets his clothes from his sponsors. What's wrong with us? We are brilliant and have Asperger's. My husband says not to worry, it's just "dingleberries."
great video. My only complaint is the title. It grabbed me, which was the intent, of course. But you only reviewed 5 website builders - there are many, many more. So I'm glad you don't take bribes for endorsements, but being up front and honest in trying to get views matters, too.
Thanks Steve. What about the differences in payment processing when adding a shop to your site? (and associated costs of THOSE) Say for example am I right in saying that Wix can link up with SumUp, but Squarespace can't. So I might choose Wix because of that - since in design style they're both decent. Can you outline the differences from that point of view please? Many thanks.
A genuine question Steve, anyone else with experience please do share your recommendations, I would like to build a website with a timeline, covering many years and almost daily info, so it would have thousands of pages and I would like it to be easy to use with a timeline at the bottom of the main page and scrolling into years, months and days, any recommendations.
If i buy a pro plan for webflow, do i have to buy domain and hosting separately? Or webflow or any other website builder provides that with the paid plan? Please help me out on this one.
OMG, I had to pause to write this comment - WHATTA STELLAR JOB !!!!!!! Like WOW, the clarity of the delivery, the tea chat re: ethics of not selling out, the jazzy background music which is so refreshing to all the fast-paced style videos and even the colour-coded book-shelf !!! I am so impresed :))))) You must be a professional script-writer or something to be able to hold attention so well - just brilliant :))) Thank You, I subbed right away. I found your channel looking for a Mozello review - do you happen to have made a video about their platform ?
Great video. I think Carrd may work best for me, but… I need a bespoke domain for emails so I can make social media accounts. What are my options? I would prefer something integrated. Thanks in advance!
I have used everything too, and these are all my same opinions; and this is how I explain everything to my clients, but I wasn’t sure/confident of my opinions.. now I am 😂. Thank you!
What about framer? :) I am thinking between Framer and Webflow but because of the basic CMS in Framer, probably will go with Webflow - just afraid of the high learning curve.
Watching your reviews makes me feel so attached to watching more, the way you break down things for better understanding is top-notch, I been watching you for quite some time now, and I enjoy your videos, Keep providing us with the best.. Good luck, am still building my channel and page, and I hope it gets closer to teaching soon.
Can you link a Carrd landing page to another Carrd landing page? If I wnated to use the first landing page to interduce my catering company and the second page with a menu and how to reach, can I do this?
Very informative video, of all the videos I've seen on the subject, (more than 200), this is one if not the best one, your very well timed brief demo of each web builder and wordpress, combined with your stellar cinematography and camerachanges, and including the price comparison of each option makes this video an excellent piece of information for those looking to learn wich website builder to choose, well done💯
Great comparisons to help viewers decide. One aspect you didn’t include that you might consider, is the executive team leading each company and what country they're headquartered in. A lot of viewers might not want to associate with some of these businesses if they're aware of this.
I'm an old man and not the sharpest tool in the shed. Your explanation of the sites is spot-on and digestible. Ironically, I'm not even searching for a web platform. I just stumbled on your site. It is well done. I subscribed for the entertainment value and hopefully to learn something along the way.
You space your speech well. Your pause is perfect. You also speak very clearly and gracefully.
Thank you - I really appreciate you taking the time to say so :)
Reminds me of the calm app
Yeah there is something different about the way he speaks. Could be vocal or theatre trained? Its refreshing
I agree! Makes it seem way easier than it really is. 🔥
Webflow has the best of both worlds. There's a learning curve, but once you have the basics, the creativity will flow.
Well said 👍
It's too expensive for international language sites.
Webflow and framer would be the best in upcoming years.
Wix Studio is pretty much like that also
@@syedHabib-c3p Framer is the best IMHO
After GRINDING through all of the options out there, this video was a huge help in restoring my sanity. Kudos and two thumbs up.
"You should aim to have less on your website," is the phrase I'd stick to. Thanks for comparison.
Your ability to tell stories is thoroughly enjoyable. Humorous, informative, visually fun and well delivered. Whatever gift or talent it is you have/have crafted, totally scalable. Please keep it up. You’re doing us a civil service
Wow, thank you! That’s encouraging to hear 😊😊
Just discovered your stuff Steve. Honestly so refreshing to watch something on the topic of web builders that's not clearly paid for. This space can be really challenging to get honest opinions.
This is the best breakdown I've seen! Your delivery was very clear and concise and helped me really understand what each platform has to over. Bravo 👏🏾
Glad it was helpful!
you aint seen much then
Thank you so much for this content. I'm researching this and appreciated the brief demo on each site too. The color coding of your bookshelf cracks me up!
THANK YOU. Starting a small business and the web design component is a bit daunting to me. I greatly appreciate your clear comparisons. I will definitely be using your affiliate links!
If you need web designer for your business, i can definitely help you. Let me know please❤
@@nahidahmedjoy3861 I need a fully functional website with 18 products and a parallax intro.. what price? pls tell me straight away no cap.
this guy is so soothing to listen to ;)
I’m surprised and disappointed you didn’t cover Framer-which for me, as a 30 year designer, is the best website builder there is. Any chance you might review it?
It’s coming in the next update!
Can’t believe the author didn’t even mention Oxygen Builder. I’m both a designer and a developer, and with Oxygen, I can create whatever I imagine or whatever my client wants. I’m not limited by anything - I can use modules, or I can write my own code.
Have seen many videos of website builder and ur video made it easy to choose, straight to the point. Thank you!
Wonderful video. Thank you for speaking at a slower pace for old guys like me. Well done.
Steve, thank you for your excellent explanation of website builders.😊
My pleasure!
Been looking at dozens of videos researching this topic on what to use, and your video really helped me decide... finally!! Thanks!!
Dude - you are AMAZING!!! You should be an actor. And your teaching style is incredibly clear and so easy to follow. I should know; I've been teaching classes for 30 years.
Thank you for the fabulous comparison, and I wish your business well!
Wow, thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to say so - makes my day!
You rock dude! Pun intended! As your music is amazing too!... Thank you for being such a huge source of high quality information delivered in such a friendly and clear way! Gamechanger!
I appreciate that!! 😊
Mr Roger’s vibes on the coffee break. Incredible video.
This is hands down the best website comparison video
Thanks for this video. Really needed this type of content to kickoff this process of getting a website.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! I wanted to touch base on Shopify - It does have a bit more customization than you stated. When customizing you can create templates for other types of pages. So instead of just editing the home page layout, you can create product specific templates, or collection templates, and then connect those afterward. This gives you a lot more options in terms of customization.
Brilliant review! You're a natural teacher and you get to the heart of the matter with each and every minute of the video.
Wow, thank you - I appreciate you taking the time to say so!
What website builder would you recommend, if I only want a simple website that will be about one database and options for the user to search in it or search for results most similar to what he entered?
Did I miss something? Which one was the best?
he shows the pros and cons, you decide
@@goncastgno, the title says this one is best. Which one???
@@AberrantArt the best (for your needs) and he said
@@AberrantArt Clickbait, like always! I don't know why we keeping falling on this shit, HAUHAUHAHA
@thtasca he got me once... I put the setting for his channel to "not show this channel anymore".
As an artist restarting my career I found this video really helpful. I only have a couple items to sell on a store right now and its been really difficult to find and understand what platform works best for that. I don't feel like I need all the templates and design stuff or a huge storefront.
Hadn't heard of carrd before but I like the price and simplicity. Hopefully a stripe or paypal widget can get me where I want. Would love a video on it.
I think that's you're approaching it so smartly - start with something simple and low-price like Carrd and just use a Stripe widget. You can always get more complicated if you need!
The most objective review of website builders I have seen on RUclips so far.
BIG Props for this and your other videos. Than you sooo much for all the help. How did you get into affiliate marketing? Its seems a hard biz to get into. A little confusing on where to start. ANY advice would be very appriciated!! Thank You In Advance.
To put Wordpress more in "website builder" territory, you need to add a builder theme like Divi or Elementor. With those, Wordpress becomes much more user friendly and builder-like.
Yeah - I think that needs to be included when I redo this video 👍
Kadence theme and blocks is excellent. It's replacing Divi for me on many projects.
@@MikeSimpson1 Yes, Kadence is awesome. I use it for most of my websites, way more performant then most other builder themes.
SBW missed the boat on that point exactly! all the sites suggested are garbage, so we do ZipWP to build all our websites Elementor or Spectra on top of ASTRA. Kadence is washed up,
Bricks builder actually. Elementor and Divi are a bit outdated and give poor code output/ speed.
Awesome video! I'm planning to start a business in the coming months, and this video gave me great insights into which webpage could do the job! Thanks
The best video for website building software on RUclips - easy to understand and explains it very well.
I'd be interested to see how you feel wix studio stacks up to webflow and framer. Wix classic vs Webflow doesn't seem like a fair fight :D
Good to know!
I like your calm tone. Thanks for the Vid ;)
Great research! Which one of them would be good if like ESPN fantasy football switched over?
Great video and analysis. What's your take on the Elementor page builder and their hosting service? Together, they start to resemble website builders with their dedicated hosting platform like the ones you covered but they are still in WordPress.
Not clear how this is related to the web host one is using. Suppose I want to build a web page using the host Hostinger, or Bluehost, or whatever. How do I know whether I can use any of these? If I start with any of these web builders, how does this constrain me to use certain web hosts? It's like you're talking about a separate universe here.
I keep asking this same question, and am getting NO answers anywhere... Seems the ONLY software for this is either $50-$1200/mo creation platforms like Adobe DW for ultra professional web presences, or free useless software that is no better than manually coding a single page. I already HAVE a domain and hosting service, so WHERE the heck to I get a WYSIWYG program to create a site without knowing Java, JSON, CMS and CSS??? I don't have time to learn this, I have a business to run...
Most of these cannont be used on different hosts, the companies own their own hosting and force you to use theres. Unless you have a static webiste, which in that case you can build in webflow and then get the html and host it on your own host.
@@edmundcox9224 Websites are not cheap despite what they advertise, but if you just need a basic brochure site you can build one on google business profile, with very little knowledge, if you need something to bring you leads, then you will need to hire out.
I believe WordPress can be used on any host. However I may be wrong so do your own research just in case. It's also tough to use I hear unless your a pro.
How is Framer not in this list? Hands down the most innovative web builder company out there rn
It’s coming in the 2025 update!
@@stevebuildswebsites and what about Elementor Pro? Is there a reason it's not on there? Very curious.
What about website speed and ping times. Are some of these options better at automatically condensing code, compressing media, etc? For maximum responsiveness?
Id suggest Google Lighthouse to test that 👍
Would've loved to see you cover Framer in this video
In my next update for sure
amazing but what about framer?
i was about to ask the same
I just found your channel and I enjoyed it immensely. You definitely earned my subscription today. Looking forward to exploring your other videos and all upcoming videos. I really learned a lot from this video and your style of presentation was so refreshing.
That’s so awesome to hear, thank you!
Carrd! I love it! I created sectioned page and it's really sleek and good looking! Thank you!
That’s so awesome!! Glad to hear it :)
i think you're very very underrated dude. Thanks for this!
Steve, I thought your explanation of the difference between these website builders and WP was crystal clear, and I couldn’t agree with you more.
For a simple guy like myself who is just trying to build a simple website for my humble tea business with no prior website building experience, this video really hit home for me.
I would love to do a total custom build and make a spectacular website via WP, but then how to make it a blog with ecommerce functioning? How to connect payment options? How to ensure it’s all secure? How to keep it all updated? How to make it responsive? How to figure out shipping and taxes that change? …you get my point. And I definitely get yours.
All of that is learnable and doable through WP I’m sure. But do I want to spend the time to become a website building expert, or do I want a functioning website with all that essentially taken care of so I can focus on the business.
Well said! 👏 Couldn’t agree more 😊
what are the storage limitation on squarespace? When I was doing a trial period, I really struggled uploading the photos because it will reach maximum photos everytime?
Is there one that you'd recommend that has the best security features? I need a website that has some public pages, but also "members only" pages that requires the member to have a password. The password can be the same for all members that I provide to them, or it can be where each member has their own log-in and creates their own password. Thanks for any tips on this!
Thank you Steve for sharing with a balance of clarity and brevity. Also for exposing the existance of Carrd. Many of my questions were answered across products.
So glad to hear it!!
Thank you so much for this video! You are a filmmaker and this is very rare here on youtube. As well thank you for using music only, where it make sense. I've enjoyed and learned from this video a lot!
this video is a piece of art, well deserved comment and like!!! keep up the good work this is a great vibe!
can we create a employee portal with any of these builders?
What’s the best solution for membership management?
I'm not totally sure though I've used Squarespace for that in the past! squarespace.syuh.net/B0mq3q
Great video! But I have one question: do the other website builders allow one to create a blog and monetize it with adds? TIA!
Curious...so what are Elementor, Divi and Beaver Builder classified as?
page builders, they need a CMS platform
Are there any tools left that let you develop your site locally and the upload to your hosting and don't have to pay monthly fee, just one time software tool price?
AMAZING EDITS! which software?? thank you keep it UP! 🙂
Excellent. Would love to see you do a video on Framer!
Bro, the way you speak is just *chef kiss
I learn wonderfully by your teaching style. No overly enthusiastic energy which would give me anxiety.
I'm taking over my husband's web site and exiting GoDadddy and WordPress. Screw that mess.
Re: your bookshelf.
I organize my husband's golf shirts mimicking the pattern of the color wheel. Rainbows of everything golf. Short, long, slacks separated and color coded. It's so pretty. He gets his clothes from his sponsors.
What's wrong with us? We are brilliant and have Asperger's. My husband says not to worry, it's just "dingleberries."
great video. My only complaint is the title. It grabbed me, which was the intent, of course. But you only reviewed 5 website builders - there are many, many more. So I'm glad you don't take bribes for endorsements, but being up front and honest in trying to get views matters, too.
I’ve tried many, many more (look at my channel) but maybe I should’ve said that in the video?
Thanks Steve. What about the differences in payment processing when adding a shop to your site? (and associated costs of THOSE) Say for example am I right in saying that Wix can link up with SumUp, but Squarespace can't. So I might choose Wix because of that - since in design style they're both decent. Can you outline the differences from that point of view please? Many thanks.
A genuine question Steve, anyone else with experience please do share your recommendations, I would like to build a website with a timeline, covering many years and almost daily info, so it would have thousands of pages and I would like it to be easy to use with a timeline at the bottom of the main page and scrolling into years, months and days, any recommendations.
I liked this video, very simple explanation and I have learnt about a new website builder (Carrd)
Impressive, VERY impressive quality of your video !
If i buy a pro plan for webflow, do i have to buy domain and hosting separately? Or webflow or any other website builder provides that with the paid plan? Please help me out on this one.
The best video on the internet about this gossip!😍
OMG, I had to pause to write this comment - WHATTA STELLAR JOB !!!!!!! Like WOW, the clarity of the delivery, the tea chat re: ethics of not selling out, the jazzy background music which is so refreshing to all the fast-paced style videos and even the colour-coded book-shelf !!! I am so impresed :))))) You must be a professional script-writer or something to be able to hold attention so well - just brilliant :)))
Thank You, I subbed right away. I found your channel looking for a Mozello review - do you happen to have made a video about their platform ?
Thank you!! Really appreciate the kind comments :) I haven't actually tried Mozello, sorrry!
Great video. I think Carrd may work best for me, but… I need a bespoke domain for emails so I can make social media accounts. What are my options? I would prefer something integrated. Thanks in advance!
how do you think framer fares against webflow?
One video to rule them all. Thank you very much for your objectivity
Thank the stars for you! Now I understand why WIX drove me insane! I have an Apple brain! I really love how you break things down!
Hi. Would you mind sharing what lens you use on your camera?
I have used everything too, and these are all my same opinions; and this is how I explain everything to my clients, but I wasn’t sure/confident of my opinions.. now I am 😂. Thank you!
That's awesome - hearing that, gives me confidence too!!
Thanks for the Carrd rec at the end! Easy peasy
What about framer? :) I am thinking between Framer and Webflow but because of the basic CMS in Framer, probably will go with Webflow - just afraid of the high learning curve.
Very helpful - thanks a lot! I know it's not exactly earth shattering, but you got yourself 1 more subscriber!
Framer? Elementor?
I seem to be having trouble designing these, since im working on my ipad
love the clicks sound you use throughout the video, super clean
Appreciate it!!
Thanks for such kind of knowledgeable video, but i want to ask you that is carrd is best for E-commerce one page website?
Great video, overview of top options, thank you!
My ears can't believe, zero music 👍
Thanks for the deep analysis of these website-building platforms. You really save us! Much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Watching your reviews makes me feel so attached to watching more, the way you break down things for better understanding is top-notch, I been watching you for quite some time now, and I enjoy your videos, Keep providing us with the best.. Good luck, am still building my channel and page, and I hope it gets closer to teaching soon.
I really appreciate that!!
@@stevebuildswebsites You welcome..
What about Framer? How is it in comparison to Webflow?
Love your pollo shirt
Integrity. Well played, sir.
Can you link a Carrd landing page to another Carrd landing page? If I wnated to use the first landing page to interduce my catering company and the second page with a menu and how to reach, can I do this?
What is the intro sound? 🤔
no wordpress?
Carrd stays GOATed, fr fr
What can you say about DIVI THEMES?
Thank you soooo much for telling us about Carrd! ohhhh myyyyy gawwwwd lol
Well you can do most the things webflow in wix studio too…cms etc
True - not Wix though
@@stevebuildswebsites You do can use CMS in pretty much any element in WIx, I've been using for a while.
Which is best if you want to host video
Steve, next year please include Framer and Showit
On my list 👍
Very informative video, of all the videos I've seen on the subject, (more than 200), this is one if not the best one, your very well timed brief demo of each web builder and wordpress, combined with your stellar cinematography and camerachanges, and including the price comparison of each option makes this video an excellent piece of information for those looking to learn wich website builder to choose, well done💯
Thank you!! I put a lot of time into it - so I appreciate you taking the time to say so 😊
Not exactly "every" website builder. What do you think about Framer? I am not a web designer, but I am a designer, and want to expand into web design.
This is really useful thanks you also I love your choice of jazz as your music on this
Glad you like it! 🎶
Great comparisons to help viewers decide. One aspect you didn’t include that you might consider, is the executive team leading each company and what country they're headquartered in. A lot of viewers might not want to associate with some of these businesses if they're aware of this.
Are we talking xenophobia bigotry or concern about foreign adversaries?
How about Canva? If you have a premium plan already, would you save money?