How Bad Is China’s Navy? Frigates Slower Than Carriers, Carriers Take 48 Hours to Start
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- Recently, news about the radar of China's 054B frigate has sparked widespread attention. It is claimed that the S-band radar of the ship, with 2 pieces, each measuring 3-3.5 square meters, totals at least 20 square meters, while the US "Constellation" class frigate has 3 radars totaling only 1.8 square meters. At first glance, isn't China streets ahead of the United States? Supposedly, it can detect targets at least three times farther away and handle at least three times more airborne targets. It sounds like bad news for the U.S.
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The phrase "upon closer examination" is like China's kryptonite. That whole country is about appearance, and not substance.
beside that, the US navy is very clever in spreading China's fake capabilities, they can use it to demand even more funds! You never hear a Navy expert contradicting Chinese claims, they know exactly the capabilities of Chinese radar.
Yup. CCP led China is body without a soul. Mainly because CCP demolished 98% of culture and history lol. Taiwan is the real China with rich culture and soul.
I concur. Only thing their armed forces are good for are being very smartly dressed and performing impeccably choreographed and synchronised parades but when it comes to actually facing theer adversaries like the Indian soldiers at 16,000 feet elevation on Himalayan border they brown their pants. In fact upon just reading their deployment letter stating their location they can't stop sobbing as scared a they get.
@@pmshah1946 this footage with 20 tanks firing simultaneity, same with planes etc., this has zero military value, only propaganda for folks without military knowledge!
@@pmshah1946 That seem to be one of the biges cruches of Chinas military, lack of eny proper expirience of combat in real conflict.
Mot of the time they just boast but we have not seen them mostly fist fight the Indian troops in the himalaya and do those impressive military training vids.
As lack of advanced tech can be over come whit skill but seem the paper dragon is over all lacking on many places, if thes data points to be believed.
World's most expensive cardboard army.
Wait there more. "Aluminum army". 😂
Tofu military
China is weak but they capacity capability not know but ten years from now
@@al28854tofu nation more like it look how their cities are collapsing
Tufu military, , they have to project strength through what doesnt exist, this is the perfect example of that.
All I have to say is: never correct your enemies, especially when they are making mistakes.
Japan,Skorea, Philippines &others 😂😂
It becomes an issue when the enemy believes their own propaganda, becomes over confident and starts attacking. Like we've seen with Russia in Ukraine. Xinnie the Pooh has nobody giving him bad news. I doubt he knows what is really going on. That is the truly scary part. A sane person would never attack, but a deified dictator only hearing what he wants to hear, might make bad and catastrophic decisions.
Napoleon said it first.
pardon me?
he is not actually correcting the flaws but rather he is leading them to disaster... me like a fish in a barrel
“Frieght?”
It’s FRIGATE
What level of illiteracy is required to narrate this videos...
Okay, you heard what I heard. If that is an AI, someone got cheated. If it's a real person, same deal.
Omg a word in their second language was wrong lets RAGE BRO
@@stezenast5878fuck yea! Hit the caps lock and LETS FUCKING GO!!!!
And how is your Chinese? Give them a break.
3000 personel to support a handful of aircraft? The Nimitz class carries about 4000 to support about 80 aircraft. Are some of the Chinese Navy personel in the engine room pedalling the ship?
Pedaling to run the electric generators to power the radar. 😳😂
That what china is good at .. DRAGON BOAT RACE !!! 😂
when the pedals are working.
That's actually a bad comparison, a Nimitz is a lot more capable than the Chinese carrier, so at first glance the Chinese carrier isn't that bad off.
Compare it to the Charles De Gaulle, which is around 2000 personnel for 30+ aircraft all on a little more than half the displacement.
@@SgtBeltfed Yes, that is a better comparison. Thank you.
A US nuclear sub captain once said on TV that the only time you would know you were anywhere near a US sub is when you are on the way to the bottom of the ocean.
That’s one thing you never hear about is Subs.
Many US subs have been hit when playing stealth.
Lmao!
Ahhh my Dark Humor switch just flipped on and I had a good laugh with a few vet from different branches I just showed this too.
Didn't the Russian military say, "to find a US sub you just have to listen for the silent hole in the water?"
@@majestic2253 It was actually the Brits, when the US asked how come their subs could find our boomers in wargames so easily.
The story I heard (I was a surface guy) from the bubbleheads was the solution was to add a very advanced sound system to project "ocean sounds". Dunno if it's true, as I had nothing at all to do with ASW ops; but its a fun story.
For further reading, "Blind Man's Bluff" is an excellent unclassified primer on submarine operations.
Paper boats they use water canon as a main weapon 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
tofu boats 😂 they cant even survive ramming with the phillipine ships
Will one day make some great artificial reefs!
Let's not forget the personnel gap... Chinese naval personnel can't keep up with Japanese naval personnel any more than the Type 054s can keep up with Mogamis...
Or the equipment gap, the "retired" PLA destroyer turned Chinese Coast Guard, can't stand up to Philippine's Japanese built Coast Guard ships.
@@Juan-os4hs The whole video was centered on the failings of Chinese naval equipment...
what? The average age of a Japanese sailor is 35+
Or do you mean in skill? I recall meeting a Japanese sailor during RIMPAC that only had one job and it was putting on a tourniquet, and that's it, no other medical experience or applications. So i don't believe Japan's military doctrine is good at war.
Have you seen the "quality" of American sailors? Some of them are very good at make up, dancing and....um...entertainment. Does that win wars?
Ex Navy here, can’t tell you exact speed of the Nimitz class but it’s way more than 33 knots, you’d be surprised!
Top speed is kind of irrelevant, every USN aircraft carrier post ww2 has had a design speed of ~33kts.
The difference is that the USN nuclear carriers can do the whole damn trip non-stop at 30kts if needed, plan cant seem to get their carriers-with-chinese-characteristics to japan without breaking down.
Why did you choose Navy? Just wondering.
Same they can easily outrun the task force.
@@nullcognomen7553 With respect, a carrier's top speed is hugely important to flight operations. Aircraft loadouts are critically dependent upon wind across the flight deck to generate sufficient lift. Carriers will turn into the prevailing wind to launch and recover aircraft; but if there isn't any, the ship's own velocity must generate the wind itself. There may also be tactical, operational, or even political reasons a carrier simply can't turn to the desired direction.
In any of those cases, the engine order telegraph may need to ring up some ridiculous numbers more suitable for a car than a hundred thousand ton behemoth.
The Nimitz class can go as fast as 50 knots, which is incredible/
Hearing Japan's "NEW" Carrier named "Kaga" is sure to evoke the same feelings of seeing a past character appear in a movie sequel...
Midway popped up in my head Lol
Just a coincidence that they waited until Enterprise was retired.
I watched US F-35s operating off the JS Izumo. It was a surreal experience.
@@johnrussell1881When you say "operated" I assume you meant took off and landed without incident...on a sunny day. What a deal! For only $150 million a pop we got a deal😢
@@olliefoxx7165 Keep pretending. Everything from China is fake, after all!
Didn't even KNOW about Japan's carriers but that's a REAL CHALLENGE when a 1/5th the ship can do 66%of the 'known' load of china's AND 100% of current carrier capacity
Well, it's settled. Our military is awesome. Just ask Washington. They never lie.
@@olliefoxx7165 Cry harder, Xi's watching you.
The US has had 33 knot carriers since the Essex class in WW2, and of course the other warchips had/have to match the speed of the carriers.
Even with such information:
- Never underestimate the opposition.
- Never be complacent.
- Always ensure that you're not worth the trouble of fighting against.
- If conflict happens, maximise damage and minimise losses.
Sometimes, peace can only be achieved via a stalemate, where submission or friendly cooperation are not viable options.
It's not a matter of complacency, but of whether the nation surrenders due to propaganda before the first shot is fired
@@Dan-gs3kg reminds me of Vietnam
Exactly, a lot of people I. The US seem to forget that. That's why it is so important that the foreign aid bills passed. We've seen what a lackluster response lead to in 2014 with the invasion of Crimea. (or Chechnya or Georgia before).
Roman author Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus said over 1500 years ago “If you want peace, then prepare for war”
We should do more friendly cooperation as China has proven 10x more willing to do so than the US, the world's largest sponser of mass murder, non-defensive wars of imperial aggression, & non-defensive sanctions.
Now I know you are wrong.
China's carriers have the BEST propaganda.
Much better than US propaganda.
Propaganda with Chinese characteristics according to Winnie the Xi.
I heard that no other country has anything that comes close to China's Mouth Cannon.
The Chinese navy sounds really awesome, in world of fan fiction and make believe.
China, like Russia is full of propaganda. Non nuclear ships can't run at full speed for long.
And how's about with the US Navy ? Did the US Navy already successfully to invade china until now yet ?
Now even ships are tofu😲.
So basically it’s the radar version of a Chinese “5000W” solar garden lights you see on Amazon 😂 What’s a few extra zeros here and there?
Claimed equal does not mean true equal. China's Tofu navy does not come close to claimed capability and that just the equipment. China does not have the trained experienced personal to man the ships they currently have and does not have the support at sea so they work only within land based air cover. The problem with automation and reduced crew is simple, when it breaks down it take people and parts to fix it. With out them the ship then becomes a sitting duck.
Great Systems are build for simplicity, repairability and redundancy, together with great training for when things go wrong. I somehow doubt the PLAN really does that.
@@thorwaldjohanson2526 China is recruiting kids out of High School to be fighter pilots and providing less then 1 year of training and combat training consisting of preplanned drills. With that for the pilots thank what they are doing on the maintenance side.
@@donaldsmith1055 They studied too much "Top Gun".
Having worked with them, I assure you that our carriers are capable of going WAY over 33 Knots. Our other ships are way faster than that.
I got out 40 years ago and was on a Vietnam era DDG with 4 boilers....we could do in excess of 36 kts when I was in at 4500 tons.......we had 70k shp even then.....my ship was multi-role capable and often sent on hunter-killer missions alone
I have heard reports of over 90 knots with everything at full for the Ford ...
@@nigelrhodes4330 60 kts is the actual for a Nimitz class CVN.......remember they have to be able to put 40 kt winds across their flight deck for flight operations
@@nigelrhodes4330 nothing of 100,000 displaced tons could approach 90 kts....when you start getting speed up on water it takes about twice the power to advance each additional kt....the old Pegasus class that they used for drug interdiction in the Caribbean only went 65 kts and they put them up on hydrofoils to get that at a much lower tonnage
@@michaelkendall662 are you not aware that you are being tease to give away information you are replying to Chinese spy pretending as if he or she is just commenting so you are giving out information that you are certainly aware of that's why you see the reply tph didn't come back from him or her be aware in the comments sections there are a lot of CCP spy especially when you're talking about sensitive information.
Points to the western press merely writing positive reports to support Chinese propaganda rather than actually reporting on the Tofu-King's real capabilities.
wrong
@@jsanf44373 wong
@@jsanf44373such an annoying childish trend. Grown adults just saying “wrong” that’s it and don’t wanna elaborate, pathetic
It's so we can justify creating something double their supposed performance to the taxpayers....thats how we got the f22.
@@phillip1092 it's entirely wrong western press is anti China it's an horrendous take.
I have a Chinese made food grinder. It’s is heavily made using all stainless steel, but is a little crooked and arrived with a chunk of slag inside and covered with polishing compound.
I tried to install a new Chinese door knob at an office. It was beautiful solid brass, but threads were cut wrong and it couldn’t stay together.
Typical China, it looks good on the outside but when put into use it fails, the land of shortcuts and facades
Do you want to compare $10,000 with $10 something?
Yes because if you can't make a 10$ dollar piece right..... What makes you think you can make a 10 million dollar piece right?
@@mikejohnson-wb9vm There are 10000 items in China, you can't afford it, buy 10 substitutes and start complaining about the bad quality
@@mikejohnson-wb9vmsays a fool whose entire country depends on Chinese products because they can't produce anything domestically.
At least everybody knows their water canons are the real deal, it's battle tested.
Some things to consider; during WWII the USN was capable of keeping multiple huge carrier task forces in full scale operations for several months at a time using only fossil- fueled assets. This was eighty years ago. It isn't too difficult to imagine what could be done with today's tech, logistical support is the weakest link in the chain, but it IS difficult to imagine any conflict of sufficient duration for this to be an issue
We arent the same nation, this isnt the same navy. We are nowhere near the same caliber of quality we use to be.
@@olliefoxx7165 Boy, you're working overtime with your, what, 30th anti-US post? LOL. Imagine being so salty and not being a WuMao? Inconceivable! Literally!
@@junkscience6397 I'm not anti-US. I'm pro American. I'm anti-globalist and anti-corrupt establishment. You must be making money off the $34 trillion dollars in debt and perpetual wars.
Unfortunately, there's limited value comparing Chinese and American naval weapons technologies.
Yes, "upon closer examination" Chinese weapons probably can't compare with American technology but on the other hand, it's probably not that important to China... It's important mainly for any amount of prestige but realistically if there was an open no holds barred naval conflict, it's likely practically every Chinese surface and submarine vessel would be sunk within 24 hours, maybe half that time. But, China probably wouldn't rely on any of its armed naval vessels. China's immediate goals are generally within range of land bases and land based air cover so could lose all its warships and still pose substantial military threats. The US on the other hand has limited access to essential land bases although progress is being made building new bases in the Philippines and Japan. But even with those bases it's problematic how effective they can be projecting naval and air power over Taiwan and the South China Sea.
Probably the bottom line is that the US won't have to try to hard to effect a blockade on Chinese shipping by interdicting beyond China's naval and air force capabilities but it' s probably less clear how much assistance the US can provide in the early hours of a territorial grab. Various countries that feel vulnerable to a Chinese attack or invasion will likely be on their own for at least the first hours and maybe days of an open hostile conflict with China.
China will be stuck on the mainland cause performing naval invasion in japan is not worth the time and definitely naval invading Philippines is a massive waste of time. sure get luzon but the country and the spirit of nationalism will still exist on visayas and mindanao. and mindanao is unconquerable island due to how fierce muslim filipinos are. overtime, luzon will be freed again because again, you can't really inflict fear to Filipinos xD. there's a good reason we have infamous record on china during korean war xD
its gonna be a stalemate for everyone
Your assessment is correct. In any conflict China's strategy is A2/AD with heavy dependance upon its vast number and varieties of land based missile systems and batteries. I also believe that China's tactics would mirror their historical tendencies. That of employing massive wave attacks, and their belief that quantity over quality would win the day. Depending on missile types and ranges their aim(s) are to attack US (or allies for that matter) naval assets when within range of their land based missile assets before the US (or others) can approach within range of their asset's capabilities. The goal being to inflict damage and/or eliminate as much of the approaching US naval assets as possible before they can enter into the theater. Another goal they hope to achieve in this is the US public. Upon hearing of early US losses and casualties at the onset and prior to the US being capable of countering is a huge propaganda strategy. They know that US sentiment played a huge role in the Vietnam War. China feels that the US public upon seeing US losses with no or insignificant early Chinese losses will sway public sentiment (the Chinese foment and promulgate the divide in US politics and public opinion to their advantage as much as possible as one part of their Unrestricted Warfare Strategy). I am certain that China would initially also target US military space assets - the eyes, ears, communication, and coordination capabilities. China has previously demonstrated this capability when it destroyed one of its aging satellites via a direct kinetic kill using a land based missile (Russia has done this as well). China has also deployed satellites with robotic arms that could be maneuvered into position to either damage and/or disrupt US satellite orbits. As one possible counter measure, I have read where Elon Musk has met with the US military. This may lead to either cooperation in using Musk's StarLink system if needed or perhaps employing a separate similar system strictly for US military purposes and/or use. China was none too happy about this, and this may be a reason for their banning of Tesla vehicles in certain areas within China as a signal of displeasure aimed at Elon (though they are publicly stating the ban is centered around national security reasons) As far as subsurface is concerned, I won't delve into this too much. Only to say that the US really needs to increase its number and deployment of attack type submarines.
The regime change in the Philippines is Huge and a big blow to the CCP. As you state the new bases (and also 'upgrades' being made in Guam; and plans with Japan as well) agreed to provide an enhanced measure of deterrence. Deployment of anti-missile batteries, aircraft, possible naval, resupply, and logistics assets greatly tilts in the favor of the US in any possible conflict. This increases the number of 'targets' China would have to deal with, but the anti-missile systems will not only provide some measure of protection of those assets, but also the capability of destroying (or at least reducing the number) China's land based missile/drone/etc. assets that would be launched at approaching US naval forces (reducing the number of missiles that the Navy would have to deal with). Lastly also concerning anti-missile batteries. I have read that the US Marine Corp is undergoing a somewhat paradigm shift. They are eliminating their tank divisions (tanks would be useless in a China-US conflict anyways unless the US had plans to insert troops onto the mainland, and I don't think that is in any plans - things could possibly change that, but there is also the US Army if tanks would be needed). Instead they are moving towards small platoon? sized mobile anti-missile systems groups. The strategy and goal being that there are so many, many small islands in the region, and the deployment of many such units on numerous islands would - further exacerbate the number of US assets the Chinese would have to contend with, and being mobile, their exact location would be extremely difficult to detect and target. Again, a huge deterrent to China's vast land based missile capabilities. I think this is an excellent strategy, and hope the US military goes down this path.
Would China go after Russia? They want Manchuria back after all
We as Indians seen personally the quality of fighter planes of China air force in himalyan region . Their planes struggle to air borne in low density air while Indians flew there planes easily.
China navy is only a paper Tiger 😢
They are all started from drawings using graphics simulation instead of paper now. Therefore, to be exact, they all are graphic tigers. This is the most advanced technical terms to be used today. Your wordings are obsoleted.
What about the mighty To-Fujian?!!! That's one big future coral reef 😮
it would give cancer to the fishes unfortunately.
nimitz can go 42 knots lol
(Anyone who's been in the US Navy and knows it's capabilities) to China: "I f*ckin dare you"
Yeah, your capabilities are ramming ships into tankers and crashing your aircraft every week. Incompetent fools. I'll never forget that picture you posted on Twitter, showing a commander wrongly using a closed rifle scope 😂
🤔🤔🤔. Strange how usa does have new battle against.....china?
Why well be usa sino war 2.5?
Usa got eyes on challenge china.
Japan is the future of the "free world"
FIFY. "Japan and the US is the future of the free world in the Asian Peninsula".
You can't leave out the Russian navy in this area, though.
@@packerjip9665ya seen their new submarine called the Moskva?
@@isaacteo4063 Wouldn't worry much about it. The SU-57 proves how much russia overstates their military hardware capability. Russian manufacturing is trash and US sanctions aren't helping it.
@@isaacteo4063I believe it can submerge for a lot longer than American nuclear powered subs which is obviously impressive.
..........my brother in Christ. They lost 4% of their purchasing power in the past couple weeks alone. If they raise interest rates their economy collapses. If they don't raise rates they collapse into the USD and fuel the end-game even harder. There is no solution to Japan's economy. The can-kicking is about done. All of a sudden no one will have any money and anyone saying shit like "Japan is the future of the free world" will share the same status as a used toilet.
The Shandong reminds me of the IJN Shinano. Both have massive displacement, both carry fk all for aircraft, and the Shandong will probably last just as long as the Shinano did come a real fight.
The difference is the Shinano was a support carrier, the Shang Dong is supposed to be an attack carrier. I would compare it to the Forestal class. It comes up lacking. Heck a modernized Essex could probably take it.
A Chinese CG ship showed poor steel quality after collision with Japanese made Ships used by the Philippine Navy. The Chinese CG ship is the same build of a Chinese line of frigates.
The Chinese CG was in fact a retired Chinese navy ship, refitted for Chinese CG use, the Philippine CG ship was made by Japan.
The art of war teaches to appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. CCP seems to have taken the last point too seriously but, that doesn't mean the world should let it's guard down regardless.
As someone who spent his entire career in the classified world, all that I can say is that I am deeply impressed by this creator's knowledge and intellect. There are certain given that people need to recognize... One of the most important "givens" regarding this topic is that China and Russia always dramatically overstate their capabilities while the United States dramatically understates its capabilities. We are seeing this dramatically in the Ukraine. (When I say "overstate", I include capability, quality, and quantity.) Impressive video.
A Poor Leader's arny and navy, vs the World's military might. Especially the US. What do you think will happen in a War? Epic Humiliation.
Hey now. The US military would still perform well despite the poor leader.
1:42 - 1:46 just look on the reflection of metal platings on the side hull it shows that it is poorly made..
Soda cane
@@arileo6304 🤫
Interesting…
Somewhere the USS New Jersey is laughing hysterically.🇺🇲
I may be old but I ain't no cardboard ship!🤣
Well, let's get real: A Nimitz-class carrier has no need to worry about being chased by one of those Chinese frigates anyway. If that ever happens, the carrier is just going to turn into the wind and launch. One airstrike, no more Chinese frigate.
Also worth noting that the USN has been getting valuable experience in anti-missile warfare and delivering strike missions while the PLA Navy is just flexing off the coast of Taiwan against an enemy they know will not fire back. In the meantime, the Houthis are blowing holes in Chinese-flagged ships in the Red Sea and Great Leader Xi can't/won't do anything about it.
Thanks, great reporting.
Those diesel engines are easy targets for submarines! You can hear them coming.
Did you just say "streets ahead"? 😂
Chinese to english translation problems. If you ever had to read the english instructions to a Chinese product you'd understand.
@longshot7601 I get it, but just for a second I thought he was a fan of a TV show called "Community" 😁
Isn't it supposed to be "streaks ahead"?
We Indians know the reality of the Chinese army and navy..their army gets beaten up every other day from our army..Indian Navy saves ships from pirates and Chinese navy runs in opposite direction when receives a distress call😂😂😂
Yes, the Indian reminded the world that "One Indian Soldier is equal to Four Chinese PLA Soldiers".
@@peterhsieh380Nehru and all Indians in 1962 had the same idea as you do now... Then the Indians stayed quiet on the border for 50 years😂
Frigates slower than carriers? That can be said of American carrier escorts as well, none of which can keep up with their carrier when it speeds up to launch aircraft.
Nimitz class carriers can go 70mph ...from the Aleutians to South China sea in 3 days...
I recently heard from a Chinese source that this is the way the Chinese military make their estimates of their strength: " An elephant and an ant weigh 3 tons therefore the ant must weigh 1.5 tons!"
"streets ahead" ... awesome! Love Community!
China Observer: you established the facts and later the comments... me like you've done a great research and not biased on comments!!! you are great man. really !!!
china is no match with taiwan
You have no idea…. I sailed down the Huangpu River in 2001, the Chinese navy was birthed there and for 15 miles they had warships birthed 3 deep the whole way and these are just classed as “coastguards”
Let think twice. China navy does have large number of battleship can easily attack them.
One problem.... Taiwan navy force have strong defense ability with steel fist throw at them.
How many Taiwan need submarine against china battleship?
@@shawngrinter2747you're correct. China also tested Taiwan abilities.
Strange...why they send fish ship to spy round Taiwan territory, Taiwan didn't knew china playing test game on them. Why they do that?
@@JosephineBovain It is not the best way to play poker by showing your cards before you play them. Taiwan dont want to add gas into the conflict with China. Chinese planes violate unharmed Taiwanese airspace NOW, but will they be able to do that, when it is obvious, that China is starting a war?
China's navy is the world's most powerful coast guard.
The narrator failed to mention that the Chinese warships run on China's best gutter oil......
Tofu Dreg 😂
FRI-Gate.
The computer voice can't seem to pronounce words right. or either the real guy doing it is a dumbshit.
This might sound SHOCKING, but Frigates ARE slower than carriers. If a carrier is slower than a frigate, I get VERY sorry for the people on that carrier.
Carriers are the fastest of warships, at least warships of any significant size. For instance many of the US carriers have a LISTED speed of about 35 knots. The actual speeds are classified, but I know for a FACT it's a bit faster than that. No other warship in the US military can do 35 knots, and their listed speeds are slower.
This is the Gerald Ford Class Carrier for instance:
In excess of 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph). So the listed speed is about 35 mph, and the only thing the US govt. wants to say about it is that it goes faster than that.
Major carriers have nuclear power propulsion. There's a reason for that.
How fast is that smoky Russian carrier, when it works?
no they have steam propulsion
They need to make the carriers slower. It spreads slower then...
I very much did enjoy your analysis
"Streets Ahead" ... Awesome!
What about the UK Navy ,who doesn't ask for their sailors to know how to swim?😂
The radar claim doesn't make a lot of sense. Why isn't a sparse array practical? Why isn't lower transmitter power practical? These are independent variables. GaN is an advantage that raises power ceiling, not a disadvantage.
#DownWithTheCCP
quality not quantity
I don't like to support the chinese in any way.
But being a steam based boiler system.
If they have on shore boilers.
They could pipe that preheated steam into the ship and have it going in only a few hours.
Just like american battleships.
I wouldn't want to be crew on a 32-megawatt radar. When I worked with a USAF radar, we cleared the roof on the rare occasions when a 10-megawatt radar was brought up.
China is like that kid trying to copy your homework and still gets it wrong
yea... the distance at which a radar can detect surface targets is dependent on how high off the water it is (OK that isn't the only factor, but it is the limiting factor in surface detection)
PLA is a papper tiger 🐅
Philippine Brahmos will test their Navy's capabilities in the West PH Sea
They only good at attacking fisherman ships in south china sea😂
I'm the guy that has to point out that some of the footage of the Kaga is not of the helicopter carrier currently in use, which does little to diminish what I found to be an interesting and informative video.
Even the CGI is crap
Don’t be carried away by these negative exposures of their war equipments, just don’t underestimate their capabilities so you won’t be taking them for granted, better to be ready in treating their war equipments as an equal, so there be no blunders, if their war equipments has those negative features it’s much better then you won’t be on an over whelming positions
Is the PLA / Chinese Navy receiving any tech support / systens from Russia?
Russia and China are friends of convenience. They have a history of animosity towards each other. Russia would be foolish to help China on the tech front, and I highly doubt this is the case.
Yeah but consider how the ukraine war is going. Its clear their kit isnt up to par.
“Streets ahead” ? I have never heard it phrased that way “ leagues ahead” would suit this naval themed episode much better. Also how you pronounce “frigate’ really throws me off every time it’s mentioned, just some suggestions :). Meep up the good work.
Remember that socialism is all facade.
CVN 70 sailors claim she went 65mph+ with both reactors running at full tilt in the past. In reality it's more likely 50-55mph
The onboard gift shop is top notch tho.
Comparing a Chinese frigate with a now defunct LCS class is erroneous. I'm not sure we ever called LCS a frigate. Sure didn't work as one.
Copying is the greatest sign of flattery, but it won't get you top tier military equipment.
054B the “Temu Class”
Skipped ahead to the part about the kind of fuel the Shandong uses and I'm not surprised. If it's heavy oil, then the two-day startup time makes sense as they likely have to preheat the oil so that it's actually in a liquid state, and for a full fuel load, yeah I could easily see that taking a couple of days. Heavy oil as the fuel load, however, indicates that China hasn't learned a damn thing from the Liaoning regarding sourcing a better boiler design, so if they ever put the thing out to sea for a significant length of time, keep an eye out for tugboats, as it's liable to have the same problems as Russia's Kuznetsov.
About that Djibouti "base" - there's no fuel storage there and no heavy cranes, and even if there were, there's a large US Navy/Marine/Air Force presence at the International Airport on the other side of town. China isn't about to locate a military base of any significance in a place that could be wiped out in minutes should there be a reason to do so.
Um, large boilers always take that long to start up, even land based boilers: this is why wind power doesn't work for a lot of countries, because you have to keep your boilers hot for when the wind dies, and if you're keeping your boiler hot anyways, why not just use the boiler instead of wind?!. It's the same with the Carriers: even the G.R. Ford takes that long to start after it's shut down, it's just that nuclear carriers are only shut down twice in their 50 year lifespan: once at 25 years to refuel, and once at the end of their life.
Biggest disadvantage is the green crews and leadership. American crews habe legacy experience and procedures to draw upon
China's 2nd aircraft carrier Shannon, is only estimated to be 60 to 70 thousands ton not 80 as suggested in this video!
After all that, it is wise to never underestimate your enemy. It was suggested.
😂😂😂😂most of the Chinese bmnaval fleet has coast guards, which are not attack capable as battle tanks they are higher in numbers but for what ? No matter how high tech smart coast guards you may have as long as they are not combat capable you can't save them in real battle for atleast 10 mins
nobody has a floating golf ball with the radius of a football field in the middle of the ocean besides the US so nobody has the detection ability the US has. I don't know all of what that thing does but given its height and its size and the amount of ships they put around it when they take it out it does a lot.
Dunno about now, but 20-odd years ago, the CVN I served on was relatively blind. We had radar, actually several different ones, but relied very heavily upon the much better sensors of our escorting destroyers and cruisers.
Good video but audio levels are all over the place.
EXCELLENT COVERAGE!!!!
In fairness, USA doesn't have a pier in Djibouti either. To be clear, they do have pierage in the neighbourhood, just not in Djibouti.
But yes, the Chinese base in Djibouti is sadder than we were led to believe: now I understand why they are not able to defend their ships off the coast of Yemen.
No one should should underestimate China's aircraft carriers.
Though a Chinese carrier may take two days before its engines reach full capacity, China has many tugboats that can tow Chinese carriers into the battlefield.
Also, it can take a lot of missile hits before it sinks. And that will result to less missiles the US can use for other targets.
So although China may be arming at an alarming rate it appears that arming, both land, air and sea, may lack significant performance in several areas compared to US weapons. Let's pray that is generally true.
Interestingly China has to deal with not only the large and technologically advanced US navy but also the similarly advanced Japanese, Indian and South Korean navies as well as a rapidly growing Australian navy. Sounds as though China STILL is at a disadvantage and will be for the foreseeable future as the allied navies also grow and improve.
My Chevy Vega started faster than this in 1979, but it used a lot of oil to do so.
Underestimating your adversary is dangerous.
It is interesting. You'd think that China would start putting military assets around the world ie Africa just for real time reps before invading Taiwan.
Unless they plan on nuking Taiwan, the PLA will need to perform land ops.
it cannot help and save china
tofu destroyers
Yeah the fact that they have so many people on one ship is kind of dumb.
Sigh, a steam-powered aircraft carrier is not going to start with the flip of a switch -- this applies to Chinese and American carriers. Those of us in the propulsion plants had to be onboard ship long before we could put a Nimitz class ship to sea. I'm actually underwhelmed by a lot of what I see in the Chinese navy, but making up imaginary vulnerabilities isn't the way to evaluate them.
aircraft carrier can do 33 knots in rough sea state
America's philosophy when discussing our military has been 'Walk softly and carry a big stick,' ever since 1945. If we say we can do a thing, we can do better than that thing.
So you're saying the Chinese basically got their naval fleet from Temu.