Maxoak Bluetti EB150 solar generator review: A better value than a Goal Zero Yeti 1500x or 1000.
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- I found a few hidden improvements in my in-depth review of the Maxoak Bluetti EB1500 1,500wh solar generator with MPPT solar charging input up to 500w, 220w wall charger, regulated DC output at 13.5v, and USB outlets. I compare this to my Goal Zero Yeti 1000 and the Yeti 1500X to see which is a better value. tl;dr the Bluetti is the same battery size with 3x longer lifespan at half the price. The only catch? The AC inverter is less than half as powerful as the Goal Zero Yeti and the information display is meager.
Note: I was provided a free review unit from Maxoak but all opinions are my own and I'm pretty critical of everything I test.
Buy from Bluetti:
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Or Amazon:
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The Goal Zero Yeti 1500X is a close competitor with better inverter but twice the price
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My Yeti 1000 with MPPT upgrade was also tested. Check the Goal Zero official refurbished store for availability:
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Great review, as this is nearly identical to the EB 240 other than capacity, I was interested before my EB 240 arrives. Thank you, all the best for you and yours for the holidays.
I'm happy that I bought the Briggs And Stratton P4500 electric generator, also the Wagan 1500 Plus , and the Phoenix Elite 300 solar stations.
as a business guy i def took notice of the lil improvement upgrades by Maxoak (or whoever makes these units lol). Its a sign of a good company who is constantly listening to customer feedback / evaluating / improving their products. I have seen customer service complaints tho....
Thank‘s a lot , Todd 🙏
This was a helpful review. Thanks. :)
Thank you for the detailed review.
Great video and review.
I have one of these units and on thing that I did to make it more versatile was this. I got a standard floor lamp and cut the 120 volt plug off of it and installed a 12 volt cigarette lighter plug, and then I order a few 12 volt 6 watt LED standard base light bulbs, I converted the 120 volt light into a 12 volt DC light. That way you can use the Bluetti without turning on the 120 volt inverter. Just use the DC plug, It is great for power outages and last for weeks on one charge.
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing.
Your video was easy to follow along with.
Thanks todd 😎👍
Cool video Sir, I just ordered an eb120 and I hope it has the bigger power brick and updated 12v regulation.
See you around there youtube streets!
Are you satisfied?
mostly. As Todd said about the eb150. Low loads cause the screen to give a inflated watt usage. It's odd but I'll test soon
Hi Todd,
thank‘s a lot for your deep information due to comparison this two power systems !
One comment from my side: for me it‘s very important to have enough amp-power out of the 12 Volt outputs,
so on the Yeti 1000 you can combine the several 12 V outputs to one single PowerPole 40 Amps output, and that‘s
is what a HAM operator needs in the field.
Wondering, if the announced processor Yeti 1000X with it‘s regulated outputs can also be combined, because it‘s
single one PowerPole 12 Volt output has only 15 amps max.
Thank you very much for a feedback - I‘m really pleased with your youtube videos and the huge information you present
us here - thank you :-)
Cheers from Germany, Claudia
That’s a good question. If I get my hands on an X, I’ll be sure to test that
great review
Great video. Thank you
I know the eb150 is older tech ( But still competitive ). For $899 Canadian, it just can't be beat. It's simple, reliable and proven. With what's going on in this crazy world now a days, having one of these around is one less thing to worry about.
I agree it’s a very bulletproof unit, probably because it’s so basic.
How can you tell if the bluetti is just exaggerating the kill a watt reading rather than actually drawing the additional because of inverter usage for just running the inverter. How can you determine that?
It’s a bit hard to tell because the output can be measured in a few places internally. I use the kill a watt to tell me accurately what is coming out at the output side but the screen may be reporting the output slightly differently so I use those as a rough estimate
I appreciate this video!! So the bluetii is the one for me! Thanks!
I hope you realize it won't power your 700 Watt Microwave or your 900 watt electric heater. It will only power things that require less than 913 watts of input power, not output power.
@@azclaimjumper I appreciate that! So should I get the 2000w one instead?
@@christianarias4850 The inverter for the Jackery 1000 will actually power appliances that require 1000 watts of input power. The Bluetti 1500 inverter will only power appliances that require 913 watts or less. In my mind, the Bluetti 1500 is deceptive advertising because it won't power appliances up to 1500 watts. The Bluetti AC200P will power appliances that require 2000 watts.
You want an INVERTER in your power bank that will meet the power requirements of your appliances. Once you know that then look at your choices however I would suggest you confine your choices to major manufacturers like Jackery or Bluetti.
@@azclaimjumper I've seen differently from a lot of people. Also, every piece of equipment acts differently, you can't confirm that all 700w microwaves will not work. Far too many variables for you to make that comment, not cool.
for EB150 is it important to follow the cycle - charge to 100% and full discharge? or charging to 100% after every little use (10%-20%) is normal mode and harmless for the battery?
I ended up picking up the EB240 and after trying to charger it with my GZ car charger, I was only getting 45w of input (even on the 10a setting) coming off off my SOK 100ah battery.
I find that the 10A setting on the GZ car chargers stress out my car and I get less power (45w) than at the 5A setting (60w)
Hi Todd, Did you try you Nespresso on the Bluetti? My Nespresso says 1200 W. I am currious as it seems that the Bluetti doesn't go above 1000W peak. Thank you
The Ecoflow trips at 1000w so I think the Bluetti could run it since it has a slightly stronger inverter. For both, this is right on the edge of what it can handle though so I wouldn't do it regularly.
Great Vid, Ive been researching between the EB150 @$899 and the Ecoflow Delta 1300 @$1199 (just went up $100). The EB150 has 2500 recharge life cycles and 500w solar charge capacity; which the Delta 1300 has 800 recharge life cycles (bothers me so much) but has the Xcharge that will charge to full in 1.5hrs AC, 400 solar charge capacity but has a 12v charger; also has better inverter, DISPLAY and is smaller, lighter weight. Either one of these would be for my SHTF (some camping) to run a camping fridge, low w lights, ham communication, some electrics etc. Your info between the two (or any other you recommend within $1000) would be help in my purchase, Thx.
Good question. I see the EB1500 as a budget unit because the inverter is pretty small for the battery size, you can’t charge it in your car, and the display is very weak but it’s pretty bulletproof, efficient and a very good value. Both units use NCM chemistry so I’m not so sure I believe the cycle counts are quite that different. Overall I like Ecoflow units but keep in mind that the regular Delta 1300 is kind of outdated compared to pretty much everything else they sell so it doesn’t have Wi-Fi or app control, it’s quite inefficient so you only get about 75% of capacity, it uses their oldest battery tech (500 vs 800 cycles). The Delta Mini is probably better in most regards - they need to update the 1300 or drop it. If you’re running DC appliances and smaller AC loads, the EB150 is a great value but basic. If you need something more robust on features and AC power, look at the Ecoflow Delta Mini or Max (this unit is great). You can get good prices at Costco or refurbished units on eBay from EF.
Yupp very good, the only thing for me in the UK is that the Lead crystal display is no good in low tempters otherwise Grate, im saving up for the AC200 as i need the larger batters!
Keep in mind that it weighs in at a hefty 60#
Do you think the X-Boost could run a VitaMix (tops out at 1800W, but doesn't run for very long) without damaging the blender's motor?
I think that’s pushing it. The EB150 doesn’t have xboost but I’ve found it’s only good for 20-40% over the limit, not 2-3x as they advertise
Todd do you know if there would be a way to use my Boulder 100 solar panels in series? I have a bluetti ac 200 p ? I realize I have to use higher voltage for it. So the parallel connection with my Boulder panels won’t work to charge the bluetti.
A pair of these will get you into MC4s then you can easily connect them in series and use the Bluetti MC4 to 8mm - SolarEnz DC 8mm Female Adapter Adapter Cable Solar Connector Converter Perfect Compatible for 100W Portable Solar Panel www.amazon.com/dp/B08CKZT99D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6JXW5EYTWQYKFCYND4JY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you!
I wanted to know, do the barrel plugs of the goal zero fit/work into the EB 150? Because I have sets of goal zero cords I wouldn't want to get rid of.
The car charger cords didn’t fit because GZ cables have an extra ring to make them snap together to be waterproof. You could trim those down to work, I think
@@todd.parker how about the other cords aside from the car charger? Have you tested them?
@@1ENDUSER From what I can see, all Goal Zero 8mm cords have this extra ring and gasket to make the connection waterproof so you'd need to cut that off to make it fit, I just wasn't willing to do that on my cables :)
@@todd.parker ahh ok. Damnn. Thank you for the reply & help. Always good to know tubers actually reply to their viewers!!! Awesome channel/content as always.
You are harshing my GZ mellow...😎
I know! I’m still a big fan of Goal Zero but I need to look at the cold, hard facts. Their inverters are unbeatable imo, but if you don’t need extreme AC power, you’re paying a premium. I hope they come out with newer versions of the Yeti with LiFePO4 batteries, chaining, and improved wall charger and MPPT to keep up.
Do you have to press dc to run the usb output?
Yes
The charging display
On my 1500 is only half there. Can I purchase a new display? And if so where? Thanks
I’d suggest contacting Bluetti support
How much does the bluetti ac power block draw, Thanks
About 200w
Since I live in Europe and we use 220V AC, can these be converted? Any of them?
Good question, seems the answer is no based on my googling
@@todd.parker Oh crap. Have you got any ideas on what to actually buy?
@@Brgnalf81 Seems you might be able to find this same unit under a different brand. This one seems expensive but it’s the same thing with 220V plugs - maybe Maxoak uses the Poweroak brand in the UK: www.amazon.co.uk/PowerOak-PS8-1-500Wh-solar-generator/dp/B07S6C33H6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?dchild=1&keywords=solar+generator+bluetti&qid=1616967858&sr=8-1-fkmr0
I haven’t tested the Ecoflow yet but those are also good options:
www.amazon.co.uk/ECOFLOW-Portable-Station-International-Generator/dp/B087JG33LV
The lack of car charging is a big one for me, if it was there I would definitely buy one. I'm really interested to see someone get the yeti car charger working with the bluetti.
Guessing that’s because it needs 16v to charge which is the same as the Yeti. I could give it a try
I thought you could just use an inverter? I'm going to buy this Bluetti soon and I plan on using an inverter
@@PrayTellGaming the included charger needs an inverter that can do at least 250watts. The 12 volt socket in cars and trucks in North America are regulated at a max of 150watts. I had to install two direct battery power leads into the cab of my truck, using 6 gauge wire at 10 ft length. From that I can use a 500watt inverter to recharge the Bluetti power bank.
@@todd.parker doesn't work, Bluetti needs slightly higher than 16v to trigger the included mppt circuit for recharging. I found another way I directly wired 6 gauge wire to my battery and hooked up a bigger inverter inside my truck to recharge the Bluetti.
@@FishyFelix I figured. It’s such a major shortcoming of this unit. Can’t wait for them to redesign this using the EB3A feature set, it’s such an old design now
Even though I like Bluetti over goal zero any day, those interested can increase their charge input on the goal zero very cheaply with a lenovo AC adapter model ADLX90NLC3A which will add another 90 W on top of the 60W from the goal zero input.
Yep, I do like that you can plug all kinds of things in at once with Goal Zero units to increase charging power. I have 4x wall chargers going into mine because when I did it, the fast charger hadn’t been released
@@todd.parker
Actually now think of it, it was your channel who told me about this! 👍🏼
Trader to the Goal Zero brand. Just kidding love the comparisons and love to see the two units side by side in one great video!
Glad it was helpful. I try to make these from the perspective of a Goal Zero shopper considering other brands since that’s where I’m coming from. Still a fan of Goal Zero but these new companies are really pushing things fast
On bluetti can I use rockpal 100 solar panel
Should work, you just need to convert from MC4 to 8mm and I think rockpsks has MC4
Definitely looking to replace my goal zero lithium 1000 after it only holding up for less than 3 years.
I’m hoping I can review the AC200 next, that has a LiFePO4 battery, bigger battery and inverter, etc. but it’s twice the price.
@@todd.parker Can't wait for that one!
@@todd.parker GUN TO HEAD..SAME COST....THIS OR JACKERY 1000 ?
Good question. I haven’t tested the Jackery but based on specs, I’d go with the Bluetti because of the 50% larger battery and better USB-C output. Jackery seems solid and can handle 2000w peak AC so that’s the main advantage but I don’t think it’s worth the smaller battery with lower cycle life. I’d probably go with the Ecoflow Pro with extra battery if AC peak power wasn’t my top priority.
@@todd.parker I, too, look forward to your review of the AC200P.
Today price on Amazon for this Bluetty eb150 is $549. I have bought one week ago.
I'm just testing and reviewing the same unit here in Australia, did you open the unit and have a look at what cells are actually in there? I now have 3 different conflicting statements from Bluetti what cells are in the EB150 from Li-ion, to Lithium Cobalt to NMC? All with very different characteristics and safety factors.
The site says they are LG ouch cells. LG Li-ion battery cell, 101,351mAh/14.8V( equivalent to 405,405mAh 3.7V)) - good thread there: diysolarforum.com/threads/dead-brand-new-bluetti-eb150.12580/
@@todd.parker yes, they have now given me 3 different cell chemistries the last one was that they are supposedly they are NMC cells
Does the Goal Zero car charger work with this unit?
I didn’t try mine but I have a hunch it would work if you cut back the waterproof ring on the GZ cables. The 8mm car cable wouldn’t quite fit in.
Clarification: I tried this in the video and I think it would work from a voltage/current perspective but you'd need to trim off the waterproofing ring/gasket on the GZ cable so it would fit in. I just didn't want to modify my cables.
The AC200 charger does though.
So glad to have found someone who has actually tried this. Out of curiosity does it pull exactly 400 watts with that charger? Or is it slightly above / below? Thanks
@@hatchbacktaco9964 I haven't tried the AC200 myself, I just saw others on the Bluetti forum mention it, and they said Bluetti confirmed it working. I see no reason why it wouldn't work. I might pick one up, but solar is my priority.
This unit would be 1000x better if the power supply charged at 400 watts instead of the measly 200. As far as solar it's fine because you could over panel to 600 watts. But for off grid cloudy weeks charging at a rate that would make a generator a viable solution to charge it back up would be great. I'll be getting the AC 300. My friend has it and it charges to full in 45 min to an hour and it's a much larger , much better system.
Is it called a BlueTTi or Blue Eddi
Yes. 😉
COULD I get 7 NIGHTS WITH MY C-pap machine if it draws 20 watts ?
20w/h x 8 hours = 160 watt hours/day x 7 days = 1,120 watt hours total. Assume 20% losses when converting to AC but I think this might just make it.
@@todd.parker Thanks for replying Todd, but I made up my mind to buy another deep cycle marine battery from Walmart. I've had success with those batteries instead of spending BIG BUCKS for a power station.
@@grh7399 Sure. Just keep in mind that a lead acid battery can only be discharged to 50% before it’s damaged so a 100ah battery is only giving you 50ah while a lithium ion or LFP battery can deliver all 100ah and will last much longer so if you can save up and buy a better battery, you will really come out ahead. They are much cheaper and lighter in the long term when you factor in lifespan and usable capacity.
@@todd.parker OH BOY, Todd you're not gonna believe this but I JUST shipped back the CHINS 12V 100AH LITHIUM BATTERY about a week ago. It was $360 but I don't understand lithium batteries and thought I made a mistake in buying it so I sent it back. Will Prouse did a review on it so I guess I got talked into it. They took the battery back and were very understanding with no questions asked, I have nothing buy praise for that company , I think it was Chinus.
@@grh7399 oh, dang. Good price
The thing is, that in Europe, you don't have many other options then Goal Zero. I had Yeti 400, now I have Yeti 1400 lithium - and they are expensive, they have terrible life but not much to choose from.
Interesting. Seems Maxoak Bluetti is called Poweroak in the UK and probably all of Europe? www.amazon.co.uk/POWEROAK-Portable-Generator-Capacity-Emergency/dp/B086BXZXLB?ref_=ast_sto_dp
14:59 - no it's not. Sure it will keep Watts but check the output voltage - you will be surprised how it works.
Voltages are going down to keep Watts so plugged equipment is working but way below full potential.
I haven’t checked the voltage on the Yeti when it’s putting out max output but the inverter is much stronger than the Bluetti. If it’s dropping voltage like Ecoflows xboost, it means it’s cranking up the amps.
How long does take to charge this from zero and from 50%. I am looking at this and the EC delta. this has better battery, but EC delta has quick charge. I am only using this for charging RC batteries on the field on weekends.
I’m testing the Ecoflow River Pro now. The charger is 220w so it takes about 7 hours to charge from 0. The Delta is on sale now so it’s only a few hundred more than the Bluetti. Lots of pros and cons
@@todd.parker 7 hours is not to bad. I know the Delta only last about 500 cycles then its 60% battery. But I only using it once a week about 6 months out of the year so it should last for several years. The pro is the fast charge 1 1/2 to 80% charged, but the Bluetti has 1500wh vs 1260wh, with real hours of about 1200wh vs 1000wh. Both are about the same price difference of about 150 dollars. Cant make up my mind.
@@ReviewCantina what did you end up buying?
@@cholomiranda1418 Bluetti. See video ruclips.net/video/5MK7W4FZ07E/видео.html
@@ReviewCantina might go with bluetti as well. That lifepo4 chemistry is pushing me towards that direction. I am also thinking of just getting the delta1300 and just accept that it will probably be broken/lower usage in about 3 years. That fast charging is a big deal for rolling blackouts it seems.
Surely the inverter size would not matter if a person buys lower wattage appliances for their home in order to save money on their power bills, None of my appliances are above 900w purely because I don't want to give my money to the power companies So the Bluetti is a winner no matter what happens, And most Preppers and those who live off grid would already own low wattage appliances so either way again the Bluetti is a winner.
For smaller appliances it’s hard to beat the cost/capacity of the EB150, especially refurbished but certain refrigerators and most coffee makers and microwaves won’t work with it. Just good to know up front what you need to run
@@todd.parker Cool Yeah, I got a small microwave from amazon that works and a 600w Heater an 800w induction Hob a 900w Jug, a 250w Iron plus my 4x4 fridge and a 250w Boot Dryer and a 700w Cook Pot/pressure cooker, even the my washing machine max's out at around 280w when washing and spinning at the same time and only uses 47w to do a whole wash and spin which is great for long trips. a 700w Cook Pot/pressure cooker, Shop around there is some good gear out there.
It says usb n don't have a clue wat the other lil thing does
Where does it say USB-N? That's not a thing, this has a few USB-A ports
@@todd.parker n ment aNd i was saying and as in &
Seen this👍 but check with Will prowse on RUclips first, that kid is a Genius when it comes to solar products👍
Yep, always watch his videos because he likes to tear ‘em open. I did find a few improvements from when Will and Hobotech reviewed this - they upgraded the wall charger and regulated DC voltage which were limitations they mentioned. Guess they did some firmware updates and swapped in a better wall charger.
@@todd.parker niiiiiice, good to know, I might get this one 👍👍👍
@@todd.parker The 400 Watt wall charger from the AC200 will also work. It cost about £199 to buy in the UK from Solarsupply.
@@todd.parker how fast does bluetti charge with 220V wall charger now?
@@saltpepper1894 assuming it’s the same 220w as the 120v, about 7 hours
Lifepo4? No.
No, just standard lithium ion. Hoping to test some LiFePO4 units soon...
@@todd.parker If possible, pls review SUNGZU SKA2500. TKS.
I just emailed them, we’ll see...
bluetti a disappointment to me. Can't run a 700w microwave.
I think that’s because a 700w microwave consumes over 1000w of power and the Bluetti has a pretty hard cutoff. Bummer
@@todd.parker Yes, agreed, but a microwave is as energy efficient as it gets for electric cooking (slow cooker noted, but different category) and I can't find a smaller one. I knew I wouldn't get 700w aka high, but did expect to get medium or whatever. edit, mine is a uk branded poweroak, but it's the same kit.
Yeah, I bought the smallest microwave I could find and found the Bluetti could run it but it tended to trip the DC so I ended up not using it in my minivan build
@@todd.parker I want my parents (in their eighties) to be able to use the microwave they are used to in the event of a power outage. I guess I'm going to have to go the separate charger, battery, inverter route which isn't what I really wanted. Ohh well, first world problems.
@@todd.parker There's a 1500w inverter in my car (honda e). I'll try that and report back.