Great test and thanks for taking the time to show us all, will be intreating to see if this new update on the Manticore fix’s all scenarios and keep the unmasking but eliminating the iron falsing, then it’s great news for all Manticore owners 😎😎😎😎😀😀😀😀
Definitely a huge improvement and makes for a much more enjoyable hunt without all the falsing. Higher levels will impact depth if the ground is contaminated.
Thank for testing, keeping my nox 800 for now at the time Manticore were hard to find so i was on fence about deus 2 no Maticore so i bought deus 2 ws6master, now i on fence about Manticore will see, video like these help make better decisions .Thanks.
Iffy, Nice test and assessment of the new update. I would suggest that you test several low conductors like small gold instead of the coins to see how the stabilizer affects target response. On the Legend, for example, you have to be cautious in how high your run beach stabilization in that you might lose small gold. I know inland hunters are not as focused on small gold as beach hunters but I have hit small gold with my Equinox in parks. I would hate to lose that on the Manticore by setting the stabilizer too high.
Thanks William, the nickel is a nice mid conductor test but i agree i would try and use any filtering as low as possible. I was impressed with this and wanted to show it. I thought i would be masking more than this on high especially because it performed so well this high with the nails out hunting. I have noticed you will impact some depth if the ground is not clean.
So the deus2 is "hopeless " on the separation or we need to use the correct number on silencer to work perfectly!?. Is the uptade or just it is how it works...let say theres a silver/gold coin under or next to a ferrous metal (small ir big object) the deus will loose it?.and we might dont realize its a good target to dig?. Im new i would appreciate ur honest answer sir!. Thanks
Definitely best case scenario. When it comes to separation above ground will be best case and a good benchmark. Depth tests will vary everywhere based on soil condition.
Also, next time you do the comparison, would like to see you making a full sweep instead of the short choppy ,.I want to see what it would be like in the real world out in the field
The Minelab looks good Mike. To be honest, XP needs filters between V ,071 and V 1.00. Or just iron the falsing outta V 1.00. Thanks for the test, and I'll get you some pics of the stuff I found with the program you gave me. I like it, but Deus needs an in between update and they need the silencer to not takes such big jumps ..... needs to step up much slower.
Thx Jay, I definitely prefer the 1.10 silencer. Was digging a ton on nails with the 1.00. I have been using General as a base and have had good luck with it.
@@IffySignals Right on Mike! V 1.00 is a falsing nightmare, but they just turned it back into V ,071 with V 1.10. I view it as a sidestep. The VDI and separation of V 1.00 is what I want ...... without the falsing.
Why is the VDI so low? Are the nails pulling it down? I have not installed the update on my Manticore yet. I was assuming the separation would allow your VDI/paint to be better. As always Iffy, thanks you for these informative videos.
Welcome Outlaw. VdI definitely being pulled down by the nails. All machines will do that. Some more extreme than others. Thats why you get the 7,8,9 on the D2 near nails.
The newer detectors you have demonstrated single freq. May be the best in 2023? I believe wrap around and falsing are the same thing. One of the forums several years ago agree. Whites Spectra V3i and the members on that forum (and they on the forum compared the V3i 'wrap around' to the terminology as a convertible term.) With the V3i the manual states many like the 'wrap around' feature. and in the expert manual they can either turn it on or off. I do not believe it is falsying on iron I believe it is simply 'overloading' in the processor as with a hot rock. This is not a 'salvation' issue as one will lose their salvation either way, they believe. I have yet to see anyone grew an antennae on top of their head as a result! lol. R O F L. Thanks for the video.
Hey Loren, The top Stabilizer 1-12 will chop up the audio and knock out the nails, the filter on/off will add a nuanced audio. The nuanced audio will be more apparent the higher you go with the Stabilizer. I like the Stabilizer by itself and leave the filter off. For relic hunting that filter changes the audio to much for me. I can see it being a great add on for the beach or parks.
@@IffySignals Gonna give it a whirl tomorrow. Good to know there difference between 'Stabiliser' and 'Stabiliser filter', despite the stabiliser itself being a filter :D
Hey, 2 broken harmonica reeds and a button, they sounded good, i did not have the filter on at the time. The filter can be tough on relic sites. It does change the audio a bunch. I leave it off.
I guess the question would be, does the Silencer at 4 knock out more falsing nails than does the Manticore at 10? In other words, does a Silencer of 3 equal the Manticore at 10? If so, there is nothing gained.
Hey Terry, the Manticore at 10 is doing a better job on my relic sites at knocking out the falsing nails then silencer 3 or 4. I keep my D2 at silencer 2-3 max because of the separation impact.
Had two questions one are you using the 11 inch coil on both machines , and two What would the relativity setting of 4 be equal to on the manticore? I have both detectors and after watching Tennessee sharpshooter comparing the 11 inch coil to the 9 inch coil, it appears in certain scenarios The 11 inch coil is better for separation than the 9 inch coil, it has to do with the circumference, and where the targets are . They both have to have the coin and the nail within the circumference as it passes over to hit , example you will be able to hit a dime better when it is less than 5 1/2 inches from a nail and if the dime is 6 inches from the nail with the 11 inch, or if you are using a 9 inch coil if the nail is more than 4 1/2 inches from the coin, it probably won’t hit it. Thanks for the comparison. always interesting to see how they stack up . Oh, and one more thing did the target show up as iron with the red just curious
It always has to do with the layout of the targets in the ground which is why you will always end up digging iron. The number of possible placements in the ground is near infinite. DD coils are sensitive on the very edges as well as in the middle so any targets lingering in those zones at the same time are a problem. The technology is getting better but ultimately it can't compensate for everything. Go over your productive spots in all modes, all frequencies, all directions and using as many coils as possible. Even multiple machines if you have them.
This is personal preference. Both are great. For general/coin hunting i like the Manticore for the wide VDI spread. For relic hunting i like the D2 and use it as a two tone machine.
Sounds like I might have to up grade to the Manticore.. But not right now. I just want to get out and have some fun digging holes. Thanks for sharing . Happy Hunting .. Peace
Wow Tom D was saying to start around 7 but I think I'm going to try 10 at this very early 1 room site I have. It was a wooden school house which is long gone the land owner said it was taken apart and the wood was repurposed early 1900s. So tons of square nails and hardly any modern trash. This will be a great site to try this at this Sat. Thanks for the video Mike!!
This absolutely has to be a new benchmark. Two top tier detectors, and short of ergonomics, one seems not only ahead but looks like it’s kicking it in high gear and leaving the other in the dust. Engineers of other manufacturers are like 🤔. Thanks Iffy! 👍
No signal other than iron on both machines. Only one that would give a signal on the nails is the Legend with the IF off and that is intentionally done by Nokta to fully open the machine up for users. I made a video in the past of that as well.
Both would be pretty close but i have seen better results testing on fine gold with the Manticore, neither machine is a specific gold machine with a top frequency of 40. Maybe XP will release a HF coil like they did for the Deus 1. The higher the frequency the better for gold.
I noticed if using a high stabilizer I lose some depth when used in sites commingled with iron. Its a setting i will use when needed due to iron falsing. On clean ground i leave it off.
@@IffySignals Ok. Thank you very much. My manticore should be arriving on Wednesday and I can’t wait to finally use it and see how it works here in Norway 😄
I need both, Manticore for general hunting because of the wide VDI scale (really good for coin hunting) and the D2 for Relic hunting. I use the D2 as a 2 tone relic machine.
Hey Chips, its in the land programs. You can use the land programs on the beach as well if you want to use it, it is mainly for knocking out nails. I noticed that it also helps with being able to increase sensitivity if you are using it in a high emi area. It will impact depth when the ground is trashy or loaded with iron but if the ground is clean it will be minimal.
@@IffySignals can you talk to the engineers over there and ask them to put some work into the beach programs? And ask them to tighten up the VDI? Gold is all over the place as well as foil! Don’t get me started about zinc Pennie’s. Lol. With the D2 you know what targets pretty much fall in the ranges. Just like the NOX 800. I think they rushed this update out to calm the masses on iron falsing! Here is the problem we can’t see the VDI or 2D screen when water hunting. We depend on tones. With the iron high false peaks it makes the machine awful in the water. And I haven’t tried a general program in the saltwater but I bet it won’t like it. Just like the D2 they made a surf program like the dive program and it loose over an inch in depth and take the freq down to calm it down. With that you will loose smaller gold chains and earrings. But with the D2 you can use the beach sens and beach P in the saltwater and not loose the freq or depth.
@@IffySignals but to add to your video on separation. I hit a post hurricane beach in Estero Fl yesterday. I wanted to put the core to the ultimate test on separation. The beaches are like detecting in a scrapyard with every metal know to man commingled ! It is so bad you can’t find a clean patch of ground to rest your coil! I was able to pull a clad dime 14” down with iron targets above below and to the sides. You could actually hear it with all the other mess around it. So that was awesome!
Hey, i use General as a base and adjust from there. I like the way it handles iron. I run silencer as low as possible and will use notch sometimes 7-40 to cherry pick. All depends on the site.
iffy, In the previous video you showed that with the update 1.00 XP had solved the bug of the tid when a good target was near the iron.. Now in this video I see again the same bug of the tid, on the same "test boards"---why?
The 1.00 update corrected the ID but falsed more on iron. With the new update it is reverted back to the 071 silencer settings. If you use sensitive FT you will notice the ID will be allot better but you may struggle in relic sites with nails.
@@IffySignals so if i set silencer 0 on version 1.00 i will have correct id if i set silencer 0 on 1.10 i will have ferrous id when a good target is close to iron? the silencer at 0 on the 1.10 does not correspond to the silencer 0 on the 1.00?
@@IffySignals the silencer at 0 should be disabled on both versions so it should equal on 0...anyway thank you very much for the answers always precise and super informed
@brillero2356 welcome, 0 is different on both versions. 1.00 - 0 is bot the same as 1.10 - 0. Zero is technically never fully opened up to the user, there is always some running in the background to accommodate soil and minerals and nails. 1.00 was opened up to the point where users were struggling allot more with nails. XP reverted it back to the 071 silencer to alleviate that.
Hey Rick, Pulltabs being non ferrous would also come through. Rusty bottle caps are an even harder test than nails but for old home sites the nails that remain are the battle.
@@IffySignals The reason I asked was I bought the Manticore buried a silver quarter at 6" and put a pull tab on top of the ground where I buried the quarter and it couldn't see the quarter.That would explain why I hardly ever dig deep silver coins.
@@rickkeifer5928 thx for the info Rick. Thats tough for any machine to see past the pull tab. Im not sure i have seen one be able to do that. What will happen is the ID of the pull tab and the ID of the quarter will be blended or averaged in some cases. In other cases favored to only the pull tab, this really depends on the layout of the test. Best to get them out of the ground and see whats hiding underneath. Good luck 👍
Great test and thanks for taking the time to show us all, will be intreating to see if this new update on the Manticore fix’s all scenarios and keep the unmasking but eliminating the iron falsing, then it’s great news for all Manticore owners 😎😎😎😎😀😀😀😀
Definitely a huge improvement and makes for a much more enjoyable hunt without all the falsing. Higher levels will impact depth if the ground is contaminated.
Thank for testing, keeping my nox 800 for now at the time Manticore were hard to find so i was on fence about deus 2 no Maticore so i bought deus 2 ws6master, now i on fence about Manticore will see, video like these help make better decisions .Thanks.
Welcome Fred
Yes!!! It's important to know the settings on the machine and how they work.
Definitely 👍
Iffy,
Nice test and assessment of the new update. I would suggest that you test several low conductors like small gold instead of the coins to see how the stabilizer affects target response. On the Legend, for example, you have to be cautious in how high your run beach stabilization in that you might lose small gold. I know inland hunters are not as focused on small gold as beach hunters but I have hit small gold with my Equinox in parks. I would hate to lose that on the Manticore by setting the stabilizer too high.
Thanks William, the nickel is a nice mid conductor test but i agree i would try and use any filtering as low as possible. I was impressed with this and wanted to show it. I thought i would be masking more than this on high especially because it performed so well this high with the nails out hunting. I have noticed you will impact some depth if the ground is not clean.
They ‘Nailed’ it. I like it 😂 nice review thanks for spending the time to show us. 👍🏼
Haha. Thx 👍
So the deus2 is "hopeless " on the separation or we need to use the correct number on silencer to work perfectly!?. Is the uptade or just it is how it works...let say theres a silver/gold coin under or next to a ferrous metal (small ir big object) the deus will loose it?.and we might dont realize its a good target to dig?. Im new i would appreciate ur honest answer sir!. Thanks
Great video Mikey. I got to try Jeff's 900. I like it, lite and it goes deep. Have a great summer Bud.
Thanks Mike 👍
Just picked up a manticore…have an 800… after 10 hrs so far all I can say is WOW
Good luck with it Al 👍
Iffy just went out and upped the stability but got to 8 after that my signals started getting choppy. Thanks for the information.
Welcome PA, thx for the info.
Thanks for testing, buddy! 😊
Welcome Mike
Great information Mike, and some day when I have the Manticore (or Deus II?) I will refer back to this video, thank you💖
Thanks Mona
Thinking of buying one or the other a very informative video thank you Iffy
Welcome Rick
Above ground tests mean very little, in ground targets it all changes, the manticore would fail when targets in the ground
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Definitely best case scenario. When it comes to separation above ground will be best case and a good benchmark. Depth tests will vary everywhere based on soil condition.
@@IffySignalscould you bury them and do the test again be interesting to see results
Thank you for sharing with us.
Welcome Jimmy
Thanks for sharing Mike, great info 🤙
Thx NZ
They know what they're doing at minelab Michael😉No doubt about it💪
👍👍
XP Got its work cut out for it, though, I am finding good targets within the iron. Can hear and see most of them. I am liking 1.1. Nice vid M.
Thanks CZ
Great test Mike!!!
Thx Bill
Iffy sigs I love your channel very helpful love your videos thanks for all the useful info and videos you do happy Independence Day 😊
Thanks Johnny! Happy 4th! 👍
Depends all on, settings,also setting used wrongley,meaning in ma y cases its down to the man using the detector..
Yes, both machines can be setup with filters that can impact both depth and separation.
Also, next time you do the comparison, would like to see you making a full sweep instead of the short choppy ,.I want to see what it would be like in the real world out in the field
Thanks Chuck
The Minelab looks good Mike. To be honest, XP needs filters between V ,071 and V 1.00. Or just iron the falsing outta V 1.00. Thanks for the test, and I'll get you some pics of the stuff I found with the program you gave me. I like it, but Deus needs an in between update and they need the silencer to not takes such big jumps ..... needs to step up much slower.
Thx Jay, I definitely prefer the 1.10 silencer. Was digging a ton on nails with the 1.00. I have been using General as a base and have had good luck with it.
@@IffySignals Right on Mike! V 1.00 is a falsing nightmare, but they just turned it back into V ,071 with V 1.10. I view it as a sidestep. The VDI and separation of V 1.00 is what I want ...... without the falsing.
Absolutely agree. Hope that XP will have 2nd try in next update. In some case 1.0 was unstoppable.
I don't have either machine but I enjoyed the test!
Thanks Jerry
Good test Iffy !!! 🎉😊
Thanks Brian.
It seemed like you didn't turn stabilizer on- my understanding is the 0-12 only works when you turn ON stabilize. Did I just miss it? Great video!!
Thx Mark, Stabilizer works on its own (off -12) Filter on will give the tonal nuance.
Why is the VDI so low? Are the nails pulling it down? I have not installed the update on my Manticore yet. I was assuming the separation would allow your VDI/paint to be better. As always Iffy, thanks you for these informative videos.
Welcome Outlaw. VdI definitely being pulled down by the nails. All machines will do that. Some more extreme than others. Thats why you get the 7,8,9 on the D2 near nails.
bonjour, le DEUS 2 est en version 2.0 depuis un petit moment, a voir pour faire de nouveaux tests 👍
Correct. Sensitive full tones has the old 1.00 filters the other programs are using the .071 filters.
Nice video Iffy.
Thanks TN
Good video, if you will notch 0-4 or 0-5 on the d2, it will elmante falsing, give it a try
Thanks! Ill try it out.
The newer detectors you have demonstrated single freq. May be the best in 2023? I believe wrap around and falsing are the same thing. One of the forums several years ago agree. Whites Spectra V3i and the members on that forum (and they on the forum compared the V3i 'wrap around' to the terminology as a convertible term.) With the V3i the manual states many like the 'wrap around' feature. and in the expert manual they can either turn it on or off. I do not believe it is falsying on iron I believe it is simply 'overloading' in the processor as with a hot rock. This is not a 'salvation' issue as one will lose their salvation either way, they believe. I have yet to see anyone grew an antennae on top of their head as a result! lol. R O F L. Thanks for the video.
Thx for the info Don, i have never messed with the V3I, even used they are tough to find and expensive.
@@IffySignals Thank you for your appreciated response. As always!
Iffy, @2:24 it shows that you have "Stabilizer Filter: OFF", which means the separation test was not conducted with it on :)
Hey Loren, The top Stabilizer 1-12 will chop up the audio and knock out the nails, the filter on/off will add a nuanced audio. The nuanced audio will be more apparent the higher you go with the Stabilizer. I like the Stabilizer by itself and leave the filter off. For relic hunting that filter changes the audio to much for me. I can see it being a great add on for the beach or parks.
@@IffySignals Oh nice!
@@LorenLemcke yea, let me know what you think of the filter audio as a relic hunter.
@@IffySignals Gonna give it a whirl tomorrow. Good to know there difference between 'Stabiliser' and 'Stabiliser filter', despite the stabiliser itself being a filter :D
@@LorenLemcke yea! So glad they left them separate for the user to decide.
Nice video !!!
Where did you get your dust cover for the controls on your Manticore ?
Ebay, Deanos covers.
Also I noticed volume in headset seems to self adjust sometimes loud then soft. Anyone else notice.
Have not noticed yet.
Hey Mike when you had your Stabilizer at 10 what good signals did you dig and what or how did they sound? Thx
Hey, 2 broken harmonica reeds and a button, they sounded good, i did not have the filter on at the time. The filter can be tough on relic sites. It does change the audio a bunch. I leave it off.
I guess the question would be, does the Silencer at 4 knock out more falsing nails than does the Manticore at 10? In other words, does a Silencer of 3 equal the Manticore at 10? If so, there is nothing gained.
Hey Terry, the Manticore at 10 is doing a better job on my relic sites at knocking out the falsing nails then silencer 3 or 4. I keep my D2 at silencer 2-3 max because of the separation impact.
@@IffySignals Thanks, that is what I wondered.
Had two questions one are you using the 11 inch coil on both machines , and two What would the relativity setting of 4 be equal to on the manticore? I have both detectors and after watching Tennessee sharpshooter comparing the 11 inch coil to the 9 inch coil, it appears in certain scenarios The 11 inch coil is better for separation than the 9 inch coil, it has to do with the circumference, and where the targets are . They both have to have the coin and the nail within the circumference as it passes over to hit , example you will be able to hit a dime better when it is less than 5 1/2 inches from a nail and if the dime is 6 inches from the nail with the 11 inch, or if you are using a 9 inch coil if the nail is more than 4 1/2 inches from the coin, it probably won’t hit it. Thanks for the comparison. always interesting to see how they stack up . Oh, and one more thing did the target show up as iron with the red just curious
It always has to do with the layout of the targets in the ground which is why you will always end up digging iron. The number of possible placements in the ground is near infinite. DD coils are sensitive on the very edges as well as in the middle so any targets lingering in those zones at the same time are a problem. The technology is getting better but ultimately it can't compensate for everything. Go over your productive spots in all modes, all frequencies, all directions and using as many coils as possible. Even multiple machines if you have them.
I believe you are right ,there are so many variables. thanks a lot for your reply always enjoy your videos thanks Chuck
Good info Bill 👍
Can't use the stabalizer on the manticore on single frequencies only multi.
Thanks for watching 👍👍
Great video !!! Don’t know if you do comparison videos???? Comparing the Xterra pro and the Simplex Ultra would be very informative….. thanks Tony
Thx Tony!
which is better? I got out of the hobby long ago now want something nice
This is personal preference. Both are great. For general/coin hunting i like the Manticore for the wide VDI spread. For relic hunting i like the D2 and use it as a two tone machine.
Sounds like I might have to up grade to the Manticore.. But not right now. I just want to get out and have some fun digging holes. Thanks for sharing . Happy Hunting .. Peace
Thx Danny, good luck.
Wow Tom D was saying to start around 7 but I think I'm going to try 10 at this very early 1 room site I have. It was a wooden school house which is long gone the land owner said it was taken apart and the wood was repurposed early 1900s. So tons of square nails and hardly any modern trash. This will be a great site to try this at this Sat. Thanks for the video Mike!!
Good luck! Let me know how it goes 👍
how did it go
This absolutely has to be a new benchmark. Two top tier detectors, and short of ergonomics, one seems not only ahead but looks like it’s kicking it in high gear and leaving the other in the dust. Engineers of other manufacturers are like 🤔. Thanks Iffy! 👍
Welcome Jay
Thanks Iffy
Pur the Coins away and try again with the Manti will there ne s Signal?
No signal other than iron on both machines. Only one that would give a signal on the nails is the Legend with the IF off and that is intentionally done by Nokta to fully open the machine up for users. I made a video in the past of that as well.
Which of the two is best for gold nuggets?
Both would be pretty close but i have seen better results testing on fine gold with the Manticore, neither machine is a specific gold machine with a top frequency of 40. Maybe XP will release a HF coil like they did for the Deus 1. The higher the frequency the better for gold.
The Manticore seems to be getting better! Does the new filter impact depth that you know of?
If the ground is clean it does good. In my test garden that is loaded with small bits of iron it will impact depth.
@@IffySignals Same as everything else I suppose. Very impressive test.
Hi Iffy. What do you lose by using the stabiliser function?
I noticed if using a high stabilizer I lose some depth when used in sites commingled with iron. Its a setting i will use when needed due to iron falsing. On clean ground i leave it off.
@@IffySignals
Ok. Thank you very much. My manticore should be arriving on Wednesday and I can’t wait to finally use it and see how it works here in Norway 😄
So will you now be selling The Deus ll?
Definitely not 😆
After all this experience which one you would go first?
I need both, Manticore for general hunting because of the wide VDI scale (really good for coin hunting) and the D2 for Relic hunting. I use the D2 as a 2 tone relic machine.
@@IffySignals what about on the beach if you go after gold and silver rings?
@@IffySignals I’m using Nokta Legend and want to upgrade for something that will do better !
@@Bornhunting777 manticore. The wide VDI will help you hunt the beach in my opinion.
@@IffySignals how would you describe between nox900 and manticore despite prices,
How do you find the stabilizer ? I didn’t see it in the beach modes. How does it effect depth?
Hey Chips, its in the land programs. You can use the land programs on the beach as well if you want to use it, it is mainly for knocking out nails. I noticed that it also helps with being able to increase sensitivity if you are using it in a high emi area. It will impact depth when the ground is trashy or loaded with iron but if the ground is clean it will be minimal.
@@IffySignals can you talk to the engineers over there and ask them to put some work into the beach programs? And ask them to tighten up the VDI? Gold is all over the place as well as foil! Don’t get me started about zinc Pennie’s. Lol. With the D2 you know what targets pretty much fall in the ranges. Just like the NOX 800. I think they rushed this update out to calm the masses on iron falsing! Here is the problem we can’t see the VDI or 2D screen when water hunting. We depend on tones. With the iron high false peaks it makes the machine awful in the water. And I haven’t tried a general program in the saltwater but I bet it won’t like it. Just like the D2 they made a surf program like the dive program and it loose over an inch in depth and take the freq down to calm it down. With that you will loose smaller gold chains and earrings. But with the D2 you can use the beach sens and beach P in the saltwater and not loose the freq or depth.
@@FlTreasureHunter ill send it over Chips.
@@IffySignals but to add to your video on separation. I hit a post hurricane beach in Estero Fl yesterday. I wanted to put the core to the ultimate test on separation. The beaches are like detecting in a scrapyard with every metal know to man commingled ! It is so bad you can’t find a clean patch of ground to rest your coil! I was able to pull a clad dime 14” down with iron targets above below and to the sides. You could actually hear it with all the other mess around it. So that was awesome!
Chips channel awesome!
Hello man! Later your exp with deus2 do you have some favourite programm and setting? 😊
Hey, i use General as a base and adjust from there. I like the way it handles iron. I run silencer as low as possible and will use notch sometimes 7-40 to cherry pick. All depends on the site.
@@IffySignals in 2 tones audio or put other audio in general?
@@Susan_HunTer i like 2 tone high square. 150 for iron, 900 ish for the second tone.
@@IffySignals thanks you man,as always 💋
@@Susan_HunTer welcome 👍
iffy, In the previous video you showed that with the update 1.00 XP had solved the bug of the tid when a good target was near the iron.. Now in this video I see again the same bug of the tid, on the same "test boards"---why?
The 1.00 update corrected the ID but falsed more on iron. With the new update it is reverted back to the 071 silencer settings. If you use sensitive FT you will notice the ID will be allot better but you may struggle in relic sites with nails.
@@IffySignals so if i set silencer 0 on version 1.00 i will have correct id if i set silencer 0 on 1.10 i will have ferrous id when a good target is close to iron? the silencer at 0 on the 1.10 does not correspond to the silencer 0 on the 1.00?
@brillero2356, yea 1.10 uses the old 071 silencer unless you use Sensitive FT.
@@IffySignals the silencer at 0 should be disabled on both versions so it should equal on 0...anyway thank you very much for the answers always precise and super informed
@brillero2356 welcome, 0 is different on both versions. 1.00 - 0 is bot the same as 1.10 - 0. Zero is technically never fully opened up to the user, there is always some running in the background to accommodate soil and minerals and nails. 1.00 was opened up to the point where users were struggling allot more with nails. XP reverted it back to the 071 silencer to alleviate that.
Let's go let's go treasure ✌👵
Woot woot!
What about depth
The filters, Stabilizer and silencer can both impact depth depending how polluted the ground is.
Try Sensitive FT silencer 0
Silencer 0 in any program will hit most of my tests including these without an issue. 👍
Replace the nails with pull tabs and see what happens.
Hey Rick, Pulltabs being non ferrous would also come through. Rusty bottle caps are an even harder test than nails but for old home sites the nails that remain are the battle.
@@IffySignals The reason I asked was I bought the Manticore buried a silver quarter at 6" and put a pull tab on top of the ground where I buried the quarter and it couldn't see the quarter.That would explain why I hardly ever dig deep silver coins.
@@rickkeifer5928 thx for the info Rick. Thats tough for any machine to see past the pull tab. Im not sure i have seen one be able to do that. What will happen is the ID of the pull tab and the ID of the quarter will be blended or averaged in some cases. In other cases favored to only the pull tab, this really depends on the layout of the test. Best to get them out of the ground and see whats hiding underneath. Good luck 👍
Nice truck but needs bigger tires
Hahaha! Thx Bro.
@@IffySignals lol
No hoo doo voo doo. Ill have to try this. Go pro stop recording!
Haha!