I bought my first detector kit from Heathkit for Christmas 1974. I first went searching in the spring of 1975 as the ground thawed. It still works as well today as it did back then.
Another great, no BS video! You are the genuine article! I’m an Equinox 800 user and here in the UK, we are forced to ignore the numbers to ID targets. I really only use the numbers to determine if the Nox is trying to lock onto something by giving me the same number amongst jumping numbers. The big take away from your video is to pull the coil back and front tip the target. 👊🏼
@gaz419 Yes, this is how I attempt to quickest pinpoint & target separate with a DD coil. I even sometimes use the back tip for the same reason, to avoid turning 180° around & front tipping, if the best target to dig of multiple targets is furthest away from me.
I like the style you make people thinking about a metaldetector 👍😎. I been searching since 1983 or so. Whites detector this time. Later fisher f75 Ltd. Then nox 800 and ctx. Xp deus ll also. Waiting for the Manticore now. The only detector i have now is the ctx-3030. Just amazing. Hope that Manticore will do a similar job 😎
though I had some problem with sea water It also ruclips.net/user/postUgkxa-FNYUOM93a388gi9a4brtSCEVmrHgJH land for finding any things very easily. (thought it would work as normal due to it being water proof within certain parts of the detector), on dry land and sand worked well. My first one, so still have lots to learn
I really think Minelab should have done a Re-Call. They knew there was a leakage problem with the Equinox 600 and 800 they should have addressed it in some way. Fix it or extend the warranty for a couple more years if water in the control box is the problem.
Thanks Merrill, after watching this video I am (for now!😅) not worried I bought into the Deus2 to early. When the manticore came out, I was really afraid I spent €1600 on the deus2 and had to replace it 10 months later already and splash out another 2k (that I could also spend on my family 😂) for the manticore. I can now sleep again. You’re the best.
Very comprehensive video as always. For most people in the hobby, Deus II vs Manticore is like Mercedes vs BMW. Thanks but I'll stick with my Toyota, it's gets me to the same place at a fraction of the cost.
Agreed, I swing the 800 and it has found me great things, even at depth. I'm not buying either one of these or anything for that matter just to have the latest.
@@scoutingforhistory4584 I used to think that too. I tested a legend this past summer, Great machine, great bargain. In iron about 75%, on open ground, yes 95 % is probably close. Where I live, that could be 1700s silver I am not willing to miss.
Thank God. Someone with balls. You are the only person to water test the Manicore and you even showed it. Nice job. Now we need a depth water test and timed water test. Who will buy that machine without a water test after the poor, poor showing of the 800 in water.
Wrong Merrill, I'm not here because I'm going to take the plunge into one of these detetors. I'm here because this is your video and your videos are top notch. Your videos are the most intertaining, and the best for learing how to metal detect. I love my Deus II, and am still waiting for my Manticore. No problem my waiting, my Deus II is an awesome machine. Last time out I found two wheats, two Buffalo Nickels, and a Mercury Dime, that I'm positive I passed my NOX 800 over. That being said, I'm hoping I will like the Manticore more than I love my Deus II. Thank you Marrill.
Merrill, I just had to say I am impressed that you have solid gold fixtures in your bathtub. No doubt made from all of the gold rings that you have found.
I have been using Deus 2 for 1 year. I think its the best detector for now! But i hope the Manticore will be in Russia soon and i will be able to test it👍 Best wishes from Russia, Kaliningrad region 🎄👍💫
Great video!! Everything you said about the D2 is so true. We came from the Equinox 800 straight to the D2. Thank you so much for your honest opinions on each; and all your work to put out the videos.
I really like the Deus 2... Has alot of power. Been digging coins over 13 inches deep. I had the Deus 2 for almost 7 months and have found 84 pieces of gold to this date. It's a big learning curve but once you get the hang of it WOW!!!! thanks for what you do. Hey how's the "Badger" going???
Another great video. BTW, if you have an old coax cable from your tv, use about 2 feet of it for a test. Connect it to the xp coil and bring it up the shaft the remainder 15 inches or so. Put the coil in the tub of water to cover. You should still hear the signals, You should only need to run the coil to the remote if everything is under water. So you can submerge the coil to the end of the cable going up the shaft 15 inches or so as long as the cable end is not submerged.
'First RUclips Ive EVER Subscribed to in all these years.. and we are talking RElco detector user of the 1960s ..Thankfully I moved quickly the whites Coinmaster4...OH those Virgin Grounds!!! Anyway this was so damn good if you dont mind me saying and so well presented and im going to want to here everything this gentleman has to say... Not sur ebut i got a feeling I got him by a few years... Just wondering when he started.... Me 1966... Back in those days they had no ideas what we had or what we were doing... Can you imagine that!
Well you earned a new subscriber! My wife loves metal detecting, I picked her up a ACE 250 with the Pro Pointer 5 years ago for Christmas. Looking to upgrade her (metal detector not her LOL) and found your channel. We live 20 miles South of Boston (beaches full of rubbish) She cleans more beaches and parks than our parks and beaches department! LOL
I think you are or were a very good school teacher, as you have indicated your profession before. I’ll get to md’ing shortly. I have had some good teachers and some really bad ones. There is an honesty and a skill that comes across through your videos that teachers need to have to get across to students, whatever the subject. I’ll bet your kids and students appreciate that about you. The Deus 2 seems to be a nightmare to get to know. I had an 800, and if they ever become available, I’m leaning toward the Manticore. Thanks for the video on them. On another channel, the guy says “cawl” for coil, and other language hurdles to try and understand. Thanks for your good teaching technique.
Thanks For this video. If I had the money I would buy them both. 1 I love the hobby 2 I love learning new detectors 3 I really want the best detector out there. But it still comes down to the user and how well they know there detector. Depth has always been a problem on fringe depth objects. Our Ears are still our best things we can use for determining weather or not to dig it up. Happy New Year
When the dogs came running TO YOU instead of AWAY from you when you were running that bath, that was hilarious! Especially if you've been following your channel for a long time and seen all your interactions with the dogs! HA HA HA!!! Thanks for taking all this time to compare and share your insights! You're the best! :D PS! I'm a die-hard Equinox 600 user, but I do like what I see and hear about both Deus II and Manticore! :D
😂 I'm here for you buddy. I'm not upgrading anytime soon but I stay for the SAVAGE SMACKDOWNS. Thank you for the quality info. It's great to have a trusted source. 👍 ...target trace was REALLY INTERESTING. I've got ferrous volume control on the Vanquish 540. I'm planning a trip back to the park to try my functions against the steel playground equipment. I WILL DEFEAT THEM! ... for fun, I saw online, pairs of metal detecting shoes. Would love to see a savage review.. would also love to be surprised! Just my mad-man ramblings. 😂 you're easily distracted 😂 nice I think I could be persuade to buy the DEUS II as I enjoy the beach the most. At least, on my level. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Enjoying the 'Inner voice' cutaways. That slayed me! Baptizing the Manticore. COMMITMENT. Have not seen others do that 👍 It's alive and cussing you out! 😂 I worked big box retail and can relate to your color television example. But, I bet you could still bring out the best in any equipment because your experience is sushi 👍
I do love the manticore. But I don’t see evidence that it can vastly outperform the equinox. My new video I’m really excited about a great pull it made.
Here’s something that is a fact , beach 2 on a nox 800 , sensitivity ti only 15 in house air test on a 916 3 gram ring only can pick up at 4 inches , Now the Manticore with a 11 inch coil , sensitivity to 15 was double that , 8 inches . I purchased a manticore and was lucky to get it . From UK and living in Malaysia 🇲🇾, lucky for me, Malaysia gif a batch in from Minelab , Christmas came with a nice surprise. Now the build is brilliant and I have baptised the manticore ans no leaks at all , not that I had any with my Nox 800 . So all in all the Manticore is a beast 👍
Started with a Nokta simplex + and since 5 months with the equinox 900. Great machine’s up to now 💪🏼 The separation of the Nox is next level and the multi frequency of course a major plus compared to the Simplex. The simplex only uses the 15 kHz frequency, which is a great medium ranged frequency. I’m not using it on the beach anymore though… I think the Nokta Legend is a way better option for the frequent beach hunter.
Some great summations Merrill. Definitely gives one food for thought. I'm thinking of giving the manticore a miss and going for a nox900. Just don't think I can justify the price difference. At this early stage the advantages of the manticore just don't appear to be there. Looking forward to your next posts.
Update , I purchased Nox 900 , it’s pretty close to the Legend I have . I have using it for several weeks now. I believe legend is made better , but 900 software is a little better … but to be honest both still find same items
Great job everting explained well , the one thing nobody seems to mention we all have different hearing I basically have almost no hearing in my right ear use headphones and focus on ids but please someone do video on this
I've been using a nox 800 for about 5 years and almost elusively beach and water detect. Since the warranty ran out I use my excal in the water. I've been toying with getting a new machine that can do both and leaning to the Deus 2 -but after hearing your review I'm having doubts(re beach water set up)..Now that you mentioned a new minelab machine maybe I'll wait, and also give the nox 900 some more research effort. Thanks for a great review
I like your comparison videos, when you match signals with detectors. That I believe is the true test of a detector. It’s not burying a coin and checking to see how deep it can pick it up. But going over a signal and seeing what detector can pick it up then dig it. That’s the great test.
Merrill, you bring up an interesting aspect of audio. You have trained your ear to listen carefully to the sounds and recognize many of them. You state you like the Deus 2 sounds because they are square waves. Square waves do in fact produce a great deal of harmonics, which perhaps you have begun to mentally analyze in a superior fashion, providing greater insight. As a suggestion, try setting up your detectors at the outset, then cover the displays with cardboard (or paper) and go detecting. You will now be able to see your results when dug up by sound only, and it may provide some excellent results. Just a thought. Cheers
Great vid again. I have the D2 and I love it but the charging coil situation and the control box falling off drive me crazy. The manticore looks really cool but I doubt I’ll swap but I’ll keep an eye on your channel to see how you get on.
Thanks Merryl: Thus far its the Manticore [M], based upon the menu comparisons. I don't want to fight the interface. If the M has the same access to parameters, it wins on usability.
Good video Merrill, I am patiently waiting for my manticore and think it will be great. I am really impressed with the new equinoxes also, I think they will be totally awesome. I love the new scale and the color screen looks cool. There are so many good choices now and different machines will work better for different people, it depends on the person.
Thanks for the informative video. I am a current owner of a Garrett AT Max. I just started researching and detecting seriously last year and decided to upgrade to a multi-frequency detector since I felt like I was missing good targets due to lack of separation technology. I would prefer to stay with American made but we are not there compared to Minelab or Deus. If I had a Minelab 800, I would hold tight on the Manticore purchase since I feel the 800 can compete with both the 900 and Manticore at this time. Since I have neither and mostly a land hunter, I am going with the Manticore for simplicity and the opportunity for programming upgrades in the future that can combat the nail falsing in the future. I plan to keep the Manticore for many years and the AT Max as a backup since I am not the type who runs out and grabs the latest and greatest.
Get a nice used 800 ...... BUT, make sure you hunt all the spot you have wore out with your Max. You will find things at those spots, especially deep silver. You should be able to pick up a used Nox for less that you paid for your Max.
American technology put multi frequencies in DFX detector in the late 90s and in the early 2000's the V3i ran 3 with a display screen that rivals detectors today. They were ahead of their time and people didn't want to spend time to learn them. Meanwhile their patents expired and Mi elab took them and ran with it. The difference today is the speed of micro processors which is the only reason they get better depth but for over 50 years detectors never changed the basic principle of transmitting a magnetic field through a coil inducing a response in the target metal and picked up by the receiver coil. Pulse induction is about the only other difference in how these detectors work. With all of these new detectors coming out in the last 5 years when you look back at it they aren't really pushing the needle very much other then bells and whistles on a digital screen. And now they use colors to drive market share. Minelab put out the Nox 600, 700, 800, 900 Manticore and even that is going back to somewhat the same platform they started with in the CTX 3030. They flood the market with detectors for maximum profit. They are notorious for releasing machines that should never be released until all problems get worked out. I think it's horrible the customer has to inform them that they release detectors that aren't ready to be released and they've done this back to the late 90's with the Excalibre that leaked. The batteries would die in weeks and it took months sometimes up to 6 months to send it in to be repaired and have it returned. They do this with your money in their pocket and 40 years later the Manticore is gonna do the same thing. By 40 years they still can't get rid of an iron nail where my old DFX clearly shows bars on a screen saying there's iron wrapping around and causing the falsing of a signal and it would give reading on the display warning that literally says "target overload" when a signal over big iron like a horseshoe that wraps around the VDI scale. Yet today Minelab detectors are still digging horseshoes??? Why am I the only person that questions this lol IDK sheeze . If they use old out dated tech at least use that tech in their discrimination also instead of selling a new machine a year later claiming to be the best and it's not. It's possibly gone backwards??? They are concentrated more on profits then developing a great product for it's price which is exactly what Makro has done. In fact they are about to break out soon mark my word they are starting to develope the tech to image the ground in real time. This is a leap forward everything else is bells and whistles if you look how far they push the bar It's literally micro but their price point increase is macro (pun intended)
@@MetalDetectingNYC Merrill I just saw that video on my other device I was gonna reply to it later. Different tablets I have have different RUclips material subscribed. But I would like to follow up on a couple of things. For instance I might've been off a year or two on my memory of when certain detectors came out but that's what happens when you get old. At least it shows I try helping with comments from experience and I'm not one of those guys who google something then they come on and post as if they know everything. I also deal with PTS from a near death accident so at times my might gets a little excited and I may not word things the way I should and posting comments 2:00 a.m. half a sleep doesn't help. I'll explain a little better when I reply on your video. But yeah it was a surprise to first see that comment in highlights which I thought someone commented the same thing as I did but it was more of a surprise to see how you found that video of White engineer explaining "dual frequency" not this multi simultaneously blah blah blah nonsense sales pitch of Minelab when it doesn't process as many as it leads people to believe. I have a cool story about why Whites didn't apply for that patent yet Minelab sneaks in and does it. Thanks for the videos keep em coming
My Deus 2 experience dovetails yours on several un-ease of use parameters, and the hella good performance parameters. Paid for itself with one find as well. It could be sooo much better if the ease of use, and the uncomfortable afterthought headphone design were addressed. Great video and congrats on the peer review!
Hi Merrill, thanks for all those great little tips on the pros and cons of both those two. But the reason as you mentioned that you felt more are ease with the Minelab is common for all us older people ( which is probably the vast majority of people in this sport/hobby/obsession). It is the screen is larger, the fonts are bolder and easier to see, the Deus screen is faint and not easy to see the tiny icons in the bright sunshine. Thanks for warning me about the Desus coil it is a pain to charge and the wire breaks? I guess after this video of yours Desus 3 will becoming out soon. Oh by the way there is a brand new Electric car on the market.....the Chevrolet "EQUINOX" ....come on man how cool would you look driving that up to the beach, make, Phil, Lou, and Adel green with Envy!
Something to consider is the WS6 Master setup for the Deus 2 ($899 new). Bought used for $650. Much more affordable and zero compromises! Much closer price to Legend and all the same features as remote unit that sells for 1.6K. Would the WS6 Master take the #1 spot?
Very good video Merryl! For a knuckle head like myself, I'm going with the Manticore, it looks so much easier to navigate and operate. Looking forward to your comparison videos to come, thanks.
Thanks for posting this Merrill. This helps a lot. I'm #15 on the waiting list with my dealer for the Manticore. Been strongly looking at the deus2, wondering if i made the right choice. After your video I can see that it's going to be okay either way. Thanks. Down the road I'll pick up a deus2 for the beach. Learning The tones on the deus2 would be Great to learn and use. Thanks again for the information.
@@MetalDetectingNYC I've learned so much from watching your videos thanks for taking the time to produce them. Also, fair warning, I own the same wooden chairs you do around your table... Those things are dangerous man, they break.. I've lost two of them in the last year. I'm not heavy either It's something about the design. They're flawed to break. My dad just broke one at Thanksgiving... Down to only two left. They break at the leg... something about them. Lol. Thanks again for everything you do.
Great video, just purchased the 800 and worried about going in the water at the beach, beach all around me here in NZ.... Thanks for the time you spend putting these video's together.. New to all this so a big learning curve!
Awesome vid Merril. True test for us tropical detectorist will be 3-5 day a week shallow saltwater divers. If it doesn’t become a Floodacore for 1 year, then it’s a true competitor to D2 🤙🏽 send me a demo mindlab
Try prospecting audio for the manticore, I hear it is similar to the square tones for the Deus 2.... I am on the fence between the Manticore and Deus 2 for the beach, fortunately I have a little time to see how things play out... Another awesome video, I subscribed and liked!!!!1
Waiting for my manticore pre order. Any idea when they're shipping out to the public? Looking forward to seeing your future hunts with it. Cheers sir love your videos. Happy new year!! 🥂😊
I was an Air Metal Detector backer and never received one. Delivery was supposed to be back in 2020 and they had one delay after another. I finally gave up but wondering if anyone heard what happen. Found your channel and thought it was worth an ask.. great stuff BTW!
Thanks! I have been using a explorer SE and it is terrible… have to dig everything. i was looking at the deus 2 but I really don’t like the wireless coil , seams like this will just be another something to mess with.. so right now I’m looking at the legend, or the 900. As for the manticore I’m not likening the nail problem. Thanks for the information it is really helping with my decision..
Thank you so much Paul! If you are going from an Explorer, I would go Legend first. It is 95% of the capability for 1/3 of the price. Having that said you will be happy with either the Deus 2 or Manticore (or Equinox for that matter). The value is in the Legend. The top of the line performance is in the Manticore or Deus 2.
My thought when I saw the wireless coil. If I’m out in the field and the battery is dead on the head set i can use the external speaker, If the box goes dead i can use a external battery charge and still operate (providing the unit will run while being changed) if the coil goes dead I’m done for the day.
Nwdetectors demonstrates metal detecting techniques to work around nails and the halo, with the Manticore. Minelab Manticore Test on 12-inch Silver Quarter with Iron VS Nails! Buried over 1.5 years! ruclips.net/video/LeZOwgiM3HA/видео.html
I made the mistake of getting the Deus 2 on release date. Will leave it a year before thinking of getting the manticore. Very disappointed that XP didn’t bring out an update for it in December like they said they would. Is a good job I’ve still got my Deus 1 with HF coil. Thanks for the video mate.
@@MetalDetectingNYC yes I never do beaches I hear the Deus 2 is great on them. It’s also found me lots of silver hammered coins and a gold coin on quiet pasture. In the U.K. the Roman fields are highly mineralised. That’s my by far preferred place to detect. Deus 1 with HF coil is awesome in those sites but Deus 2 struggles unfortunately.
@@AngloCelticMetalDetecting добрый день! Подскажите пожалуйста, какие настройки вы применяете на римских полях с Д1 и с Д2? Я стою перед выбором: менять д1 на д2 или нет. С Д1 давно хожу с белой катушкой, находки меня радуют. Но хочу попробовать Д2. Если не затруднит вас, напишите настройки.
I think the best point you made in this video is something I’ve already pondered when considering buying a manticore. “How much deeper do you really want to dig?” I own a nox 600 and I bought the Legend when so many people started having issues with the nox leaking. So now I keep the nox for a backup detector. 99% of my hunting is done in the water and those 2 detectors find targets pretty much as deep as I’m able to recover a target in the water and sometimes deeper than I can dig. I just can’t come up with a good reason to throw $1500 at another detector. I agree with you the Legend is a tremendous detector for the price. It’s basically an equinox that doesn’t leak. Maybe the manticore might be more stable in salt water than the legend? I can crank the sensitivity pretty high with the legend tho. I’d love to buy a manticore. I just need someone to give me a good reason to own it over the legend and I haven’t heard one yet.
Rei has really skinny rope/string with mega lb ratings to replace lanyard on D2! Highly recommended, my first time out I climbed 500ish ft elevation to realize my remote was gone and the panic ensued! Later that day found 1895 "o" barber so it worked out. This rope or any equivalent along with a piece tied to stem with a clip between them gives me peace of mind and I no longer worry!
I forgot. It comes with a cable to not lose the control box, use it😅and if you have the opportunity buy the Gray Ghost headphones with special underwater attack/connector. I use them and they are fantastic.👋👋
Thanks Merrill. Second time I watched this vid. Until I get my Manticore I keep watching your videos. I'll send you a few bucks for your efforts now and then. You deserve it.
D2 Screen too small. Too many batteries to keep charged. Sounds like a sick duck. Have to add that spaghetti wire to hunt in water. Screen is not color. No light. No vibration. loves iron. Loves EMI. 1 to 10 I give it a 4 !
It really depends on what you want to do. If you are into pulling that last Reale or half dime off an old cellar hole lip you will buy a Deus, take the time to learn it and do just that ....... find the few remaining items you missed over the last 30 years in HEAVY iron. If that's not your thing, honestly, most any quality machine will be great.
Have you tried the the noise cancel trick on the manticore yet.where yo push and hold the noise cancel button down till it settles down.in all terrain normal.high as you can get high conductors.or single frequency 5 for depth.
Great info Merrill! I bought the 900 for the simple reason to see if I can flood it? Have always used minelab machines but have flooded the CTX, 2 800s and 2 600s? The only machine I havent flooded is my Xcal! The only true water machine! Im a water hunter in Florida and have to say I hunt with several friends (in water) that have the Deus 2 and have not had a water issue? WHATS UP MINELAB??? Love the machines so I thought I would take a chance on it being EXTREMELY WATERPROOFED???? We will see? Another super video Merrill! Always enjoy!! 👍👍👍👍👍
The idea that you are gonna completely clear all the targets from one area or that you never gonna miss a target I think is not possible, let's start with that. No matter which metal detector you choose you always gonna miss some targets, the way I see it is how much time are you going to take to get to know your metal detector and base on my experience of more than 13 years with my minelab xplorer II (yes is an old metal detector but still working till today) I will definitely go with a minelab metal detector cause I know, with the proper care that is gonna last me for a really long time. Thanks for the video and can't way to see when you take the manticore to the beach. Greetings from California.
Wow M. I want to thank you for your continued education on all that is metal detecting and your humanity with your quirky and intelligent humor. It makes learning fun. I’m waiting for my Manticore and now I’m more excited then ever. This year is going to be fantastic. I’ll catch you on the flip 🕳️👨🏻🦯🫡
Merrill, pull your coil cover and file the area where the coil charger slips over, take a little rat tail file and put a bevel on top. Your charger will pop right on now.
I have the manticore on order but am a little concerned about some of the tests I have seen so far, it appears it loves nails and gives a false signal I presently have a D2 and a legend I will keep the D2 the legend has to go although it is a good detector for the money. Also considering changing my order to the equinox 900 looks to me like the 2D screen is just a big distraction not that accurate
Another great video Merrill. Absolutely right about needing time with the manticore before actually saying what it is or isn’t…really looking forward to your future videos with the manticore. Hopefully this warm weather coming the next few days in New York/ Long Island sticks around for as long as possible before the metal detecting hibernation starts for us
Love the simplicity of the Nox, hoping the Manticore will proof to be a little better then my nox 600, I already love the new features ❤️ Thanks for your info, really helpful 😀 I will see how the machine works out over the year 😁
The dogs are so nice too you when you get the bath going lol! Love it! That's how you get their respect! Yay! Nice review. I'll get the legend lol. I'm poor.
I have the Deus 2, I’ve used it for about a month in tropical salt water and it got moisture in it which shouldn’t have been possible using the red plug and not close to the max depth of 20m (only in the surf line). It detects great but to be honest target ID is very difficult (maybe only me) because a 10k ring and a pull tab can read the same (33), or a silver item reads the same as a bottle cap(77-80). All these are in sand on the beach or in the surf. The Deus reads pretty deep (12 inches all day easy). So I end up digging almost everything!! lol
I guess I'm old school, I still use the E trac but it's getting long in the tooth. Been contemplating a new detector so I've been watching for something to pop out at me on the Manticore by watching these trials. So far I can only assume it's a great detector but I have not seen anything yet that screams that it's better than the Equinox yet. I might be more inclined to look at the 700 or 900 coming out if they fixed the leaking problem. Thanks for the video
Hey Merrill, first i like your channel very much !! My question : When i use the Equinox 800 with the 15 inch coil on the wet beach, how much depth would i loose in comparison with the Deus 2 ? Thank you in advance , best regards from Trier (Germany), Andreas
Wow, this video was really so eye opening in so many ways, so much information on both machines and yes both have that extra sound, Xtra lightness, Xtra programs for this that & the other, and great to all who go out and concour this ( Xtra ) technology when we get the time to figure the ( Xtra) out!, mean while I,ll stick to using the Equinox, or Excalibur 2, last week i found 2 gold rings with the Excalibur 2 where a fellow detector couldn't get them with the XP deus? why well i personal ly think he still needs to learn the ( Xtra) ?, Merrell you said it perfectly alot of people like to punch buttons, some don't, i believe the sale on the XP deus , and the Manticore will suffer due to all the ( Xtra,s), again keep those informative videos coming and teaching us about your understanding of this detectors
Merci pour le partage .Deux excellentes machine une préférence pour le deus 2 un peu moins cher ....Thanks for sharing. Two excellent machine a preference for the deus 2 a little cheaper ....
If you have ta tired old or injured swing shoulder there is only one clear choice - Deus 2! Few comparisons mention this fact that can be crucial to some of us. A great detector that you can't bear swinging for long will not find much.
Yes! Great point that I really should have gone in to. Ergonomics Deus is king. But in fairness you do not feel the weight of the Manticore. It is distributed so well. But advantage Deus 2 with ergonomics.
Just found your channel, Got the Deus II as my 1st detector. It's main use is for fresh water diving. Had for a bout a week. Start making my own programs for it. I set up coins I have already found visually with in wrought iron field of nails, spikes and bolts from the debris field I discovered. I bought this tool for to help find the hidden coins. Mainly gold and silver. The big issue is all the iron hardware that my be next to, below or partially over the coins. My program with a maxed reactivity and low frequency seems the do the best with my tests. But I am open to any suggestions. Thanks.
Merrill, your videos are great thanks. Do you have a video on thin gold chains with the Manticore and XP Deus II? I know all detectors struggle. I dive and recover things for folks here in FL. I’ve been using the Excal II. Leaning on upgrading to a Deus II just worried about the durability. Manticore has limited depth therefore I’d absolutely destroy it within a month.
If where you hunt isn't loaded with too much iron garbage a pulse inductor to hunt along with your VLF will let you run back over and pull chains and earrings the VLF detectors can't hit. But do yourself a favor only run something with like a 950 coil. It matches depth without making you dig a well for a bad target. There is a sound difference in hitting iron compared to gold it just takes using it for a summer. I sweep mine over the swimming hole after I've detected it with the VLF and I only dig the upper (shallow) targets and if there's a chain around this is when you will hit it. The screaming pounding signals are gonna be the iron the gold chain gives a nice mellow constant quick snap like signal. Iron hits hard and holds the signal slightly longer passing by the coil whereas the gold let's go just past center coil. The few iron I dig was well worth digging when you see a big difference in the chains that you will dig. Maybe find a friend who owns one and practice listening to the length of the signal not so much how solid the signal is. Your ear can work well to act as a disc for a pulse Inductor but don't use a big coil or it defeats the purpose. You want that smaller footprint especially on hearing a diamond stud earring or a piece of a chain and yes it will hit a piece of a chain
CTX 3030 has entered the chat... I have a CZ21, Legend, TDI, Minelab F1A4, and CTX at the moment. Had basically every other detector (V3i, Deus 2, Equinox, Sovereign GT, beach hunter, Infinium LS, etc.) but sold them. I grab the CTX every time I hunt unless I'm hunting super heavy trash, in which case I grab the TDI (TDI can cherry pick low conductors better than any VLF), or water hunting where I grab the Legend because the CTX always sports the 17" coil. Everyone runs the CTX in Auto+3 and doesn't realize how crazy sensitive it is when you switch to manual sensitivity... literally like 6 inches deeper. Even Minelab still calls the CTX their Flagship machine, with Manticore between Equinox and CTX.
I know my opinion on it isnt popular with some. I just couldnt get past the lack of separation compared to the Nox. It literally sat in my basement for 2 years. Its a matter of resonating with a persons detecting worldview. It resonated with you and not me.
I bought my first detector kit from Heathkit for Christmas 1974. I first went searching in the spring of 1975 as the ground thawed. It still works as well today as it did back then.
Old times are better than new ones 😂😂😂
I still to this day use my 20 year old bounty hunter quick silver! I do have a nox 900 as well
@@19jody72 Very good. The brochure for my GD-48 promised a maximum search depth of 1.8 m. But in reality I can only locate a large iron door at 1.2 m.
Another great, no BS video! You are the genuine article! I’m an Equinox 800 user and here in the UK, we are forced to ignore the numbers to ID targets. I really only use the numbers to determine if the Nox is trying to lock onto something by giving me the same number amongst jumping numbers. The big take away from your video is to pull the coil back and front tip the target. 👊🏼
Thank you!
@gaz419 Yes, this is how I attempt to quickest pinpoint & target separate with a DD coil. I even sometimes use the back tip for the same reason, to avoid turning 180° around & front tipping, if the best target to dig of multiple targets is furthest away from me.
Merrill, it is refreshing to see a few people, like yourself, post comparison videos with careful and truthful explanations and conclusions.
Thank you Wally!
Great fair video, hoping for a Manticore target ID VDI bible
I like the style you make people thinking about a metaldetector 👍😎. I been searching since 1983 or so. Whites detector this time. Later fisher f75 Ltd. Then nox 800 and ctx. Xp deus ll also. Waiting for the Manticore now. The only detector i have now is the ctx-3030. Just amazing. Hope that Manticore will do a similar job 😎
Thank you!
though I had some problem with sea water It also ruclips.net/user/postUgkxa-FNYUOM93a388gi9a4brtSCEVmrHgJH land for finding any things very easily. (thought it would work as normal due to it being water proof within certain parts of the detector), on dry land and sand worked well. My first one, so still have lots to learn
I really think Minelab should have done a Re-Call. They knew there was a leakage problem with the Equinox 600 and 800 they should have addressed it in some way. Fix it or extend the warranty for a couple more years if water in the control box is the problem.
Merrill, I really appreciate you! Thanks for everything you do!
I got bored during the Deus menu settings
Fantastic vlog great unbiased view
Can't wait to see more vlogs on manticore
Thanks Merrill, after watching this video I am (for now!😅) not worried I bought into the Deus2 to early. When the manticore came out, I was really afraid I spent €1600 on the deus2 and had to replace it 10 months later already and splash out another 2k (that I could also spend on my family 😂) for the manticore. I can now sleep again. You’re the best.
Very comprehensive video as always. For most people in the hobby, Deus II vs Manticore is like Mercedes vs BMW. Thanks but I'll stick with my Toyota, it's gets me to the same place at a fraction of the cost.
In fact ... Manticore need probability an sw update. Xp deus ll needed this several times 🤔
Agreed, I swing the 800 and it has found me great things, even at depth. I'm not buying either one of these or anything for that matter just to have the latest.
I used to think the same thing, but you cannot get where a Deus 2 can take you with a Toyota.
@@jaystrongbow6111 I really think my Legend can find 95% of what the Deus can find, and at 35% of the price. A bargain no matter how you look at it.
@@scoutingforhistory4584 I used to think that too. I tested a legend this past summer, Great machine, great bargain. In iron about 75%, on open ground, yes 95 % is probably close. Where I live, that could be 1700s silver I am not willing to miss.
Thank God. Someone with balls. You are the only person to water test the Manicore and you even showed it. Nice job. Now we need a depth water test and timed water test. Who will buy that machine without a water test after the poor, poor showing of the 800 in water.
Wrong Merrill, I'm not here because I'm going to take the plunge into one of these detetors. I'm here because this is your video and your videos are top notch. Your videos are the most intertaining, and the best for learing how to metal detect. I love my Deus II, and am still waiting for my Manticore. No problem my waiting, my Deus II is an awesome machine. Last time out I found two wheats, two Buffalo Nickels, and a Mercury Dime, that I'm positive I passed my NOX 800 over. That being said, I'm hoping I will like the Manticore more than I love my Deus II. Thank you Marrill.
Thanks Meryl I have them all too with about 30 hrs on the Manticore. Time will tell but so far it is incredible.
Thanks Timjay!
Has time told yet ? 🤔
Merrill, I just had to say I am impressed that you have solid gold fixtures in your bathtub. No doubt made from all of the gold rings that you have found.
Lol😂
I have been using Deus 2 for 1 year. I think its the best detector for now! But i hope the Manticore will be in Russia soon and i will be able to test it👍 Best wishes from Russia, Kaliningrad region 🎄👍💫
How do you like that deus... any regrets in getting it?
Awesome informational video❗️
I'll stick with my Equinox 800.🙂
Thank you!
Great video!! Everything you said about the D2 is so true. We came from the Equinox 800 straight to the D2. Thank you so much for your honest opinions on each; and all your work to put out the videos.
Thank you so much!
I really like the Deus 2... Has alot of power. Been digging coins over 13 inches deep. I had the Deus 2 for almost 7 months and have found 84 pieces of gold to this date. It's a big learning curve but once you get the hang of it WOW!!!! thanks for what you do.
Hey how's the "Badger" going???
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That was an excellent comparison, with points in favor of one over the other, showing the real differences. greetings from 🇲🇽 Playa del Carmen Mexico
Thank you Emmanuel!
Great video. I like the deus 2 and the manticore but I will stick with my Legend and nox 600 for now. Pulling up nice things with them both.
Which one is deeper?
@@bsharaboata7861 I really think both are pretty close in depth. I’ve pulled up items 16”+ with both.
Right on
Another great video. BTW, if you have an old coax cable from your tv, use about 2 feet of it for a test. Connect it to the xp coil and bring it up the shaft the remainder 15 inches or so. Put the coil in the tub of water to cover. You should still hear the signals, You should only need to run the coil to the remote if everything is under water. So you can submerge the coil to the end of the cable going up the shaft 15 inches or so as long as the cable end is not submerged.
How would you connect it to the coil?
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@@markmeyer194 Strip the outer insulation about an inch, and zip tie it to where it mounts.
'First RUclips Ive EVER Subscribed to in all these years.. and we are talking RElco detector user of the 1960s ..Thankfully I moved quickly the whites Coinmaster4...OH those Virgin Grounds!!! Anyway this was so damn good if you dont mind me saying and so well presented and im going to want to here everything this gentleman has to say... Not sur ebut i got a feeling I got him by a few years... Just wondering when he started.... Me 1966... Back in those days they had no ideas what we had or what we were doing... Can you imagine that!
Well you earned a new subscriber! My wife loves metal detecting, I picked her up a ACE 250 with the Pro Pointer 5 years ago for Christmas. Looking to upgrade her (metal detector not her LOL) and found your channel. We live 20 miles South of Boston (beaches full of rubbish) She cleans more beaches and parks than our parks and beaches department! LOL
I think you are or were a very good school teacher, as you have indicated your profession before. I’ll get to md’ing shortly. I have had some good teachers and some really bad ones. There is an honesty and a skill that comes across through your videos that teachers need to have to get across to students, whatever the subject. I’ll bet your kids and students appreciate that about you.
The Deus 2 seems to be a nightmare to get to know. I had an 800, and if they ever become available, I’m leaning toward the Manticore. Thanks for the video on them. On another channel, the guy says “cawl” for coil, and other language hurdles to try and understand. Thanks for your good teaching technique.
Thanks For this video. If I had the money I would buy them both. 1 I love the hobby 2 I love learning new detectors 3 I really want the best detector out there. But it still comes down to the user and how well they know there detector. Depth has always been a problem on fringe depth objects. Our Ears are still our best things we can use for determining weather or not to dig it up. Happy New Year
Excellent as usual Merrill. I love my 800, will wait and see about the 900 and or Mant
Happy New Year Scott!
When the dogs came running TO YOU instead of AWAY from you when you were running that bath, that was hilarious! Especially if you've been following your channel for a long time and seen all your interactions with the dogs! HA HA HA!!! Thanks for taking all this time to compare and share your insights! You're the best! :D PS! I'm a die-hard Equinox 600 user, but I do like what I see and hear about both Deus II and Manticore! :D
😂 I'm here for you buddy. I'm not upgrading anytime soon but I stay for the SAVAGE SMACKDOWNS. Thank you for the quality info. It's great to have a trusted source. 👍
...target trace was REALLY INTERESTING. I've got ferrous volume control on the Vanquish 540. I'm planning a trip back to the park to try my functions against the steel playground equipment. I WILL DEFEAT THEM! ... for fun, I saw online, pairs of metal detecting shoes. Would love to see a savage review.. would also love to be surprised! Just my mad-man ramblings.
😂 you're easily distracted 😂 nice
I think I could be persuade to buy the DEUS II as I enjoy the beach the most. At least, on my level.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Enjoying the 'Inner voice' cutaways. That slayed me!
Baptizing the Manticore. COMMITMENT. Have not seen others do that 👍 It's alive and cussing you out! 😂
I worked big box retail and can relate to your color television example. But, I bet you could still bring out the best in any equipment because your experience is sushi 👍
Great video ! I may just keep the nox 800 . Was thinking bout getting the manticore. Maybe some day
I do love the manticore. But I don’t see evidence that it can vastly outperform the equinox. My new video I’m really excited about a great pull it made.
@@MetalDetectingNYC well brother , I got the beast ! It’s great ! 2 hunts later and I’m starting to get to down . 😊
Here’s something that is a fact , beach 2 on a nox 800 , sensitivity ti only 15 in house air test on a 916 3 gram ring only can pick up at 4 inches , Now the Manticore with a 11 inch coil , sensitivity to 15 was double that , 8 inches . I purchased a manticore and was lucky to get it . From UK and living in Malaysia 🇲🇾, lucky for me, Malaysia gif a batch in from Minelab , Christmas came with a nice surprise. Now the build is brilliant and I have baptised the manticore ans no leaks at all , not that I had any with my Nox 800 . So all in all the Manticore is a beast 👍
Lol I just bought the 800 equinox I watched what you were using. Should be in Tuesday I can't wait
Started with a Nokta simplex + and since 5 months with the equinox 900. Great machine’s up to now 💪🏼 The separation of the Nox is next level and the multi frequency of course a major plus compared to the Simplex. The simplex only uses the 15 kHz frequency, which is a great medium ranged frequency. I’m not using it on the beach anymore though… I think the Nokta Legend is a way better option for the frequent beach hunter.
Some great summations Merrill. Definitely gives one food for thought. I'm thinking of giving the manticore a miss and going for a nox900. Just don't think I can justify the price difference. At this early stage the advantages of the manticore just don't appear to be there. Looking forward to your next posts.
Plus the 900 you get 2 coils , I am not sold on either
I'm definitely leaning more on the nox 900
What improvements are expected with the Equinox 900?
Update , I purchased Nox 900 , it’s pretty close to the Legend I have . I have using it for several weeks now. I believe legend is made better , but 900 software is a little better … but to be honest both still find same items
Great job everting explained well , the one thing nobody seems to mention we all have different hearing I basically have almost no hearing in my right ear use headphones and focus on ids but please someone do video on this
I'm going to stick with the nox.800 to see what the updates might bring.
Awesome video Merrill it was a great job and thank you for sharing.
I've been using a nox 800 for about 5 years and almost elusively beach and water detect. Since the warranty ran out I use my excal in the water. I've been toying with getting a new machine that can do both and leaning to the Deus 2 -but after hearing your review I'm having doubts(re beach water set up)..Now that you mentioned a new minelab machine maybe I'll wait, and also give the nox 900 some more research effort. Thanks for a great review
I like your comparison videos, when you match signals with detectors. That I believe is the true test of a detector. It’s not burying a coin and checking to see how deep it can pick it up. But going over a signal and seeing what detector can pick it up then dig it. That’s the great test.
When you did that video with the legend and it pretty much match everyone, that sold me on the legend.
Merrill, you bring up an interesting aspect of audio. You have trained your ear to listen carefully to the sounds and recognize many of them. You state you like the Deus 2 sounds because they are square waves. Square waves do in fact produce a great deal of harmonics, which perhaps you have begun to mentally analyze in a superior fashion, providing greater insight. As a suggestion, try setting up your detectors at the outset, then cover the displays with cardboard (or paper) and go detecting. You will now be able to see your results when dug up by sound only, and it may provide some excellent results. Just a thought. Cheers
Interesting thought
Great vid again. I have the D2 and I love it but the charging coil situation and the control box falling off drive me crazy. The manticore looks really cool but I doubt I’ll swap but I’ll keep an eye on your channel to see how you get on.
Thanks Merryl: Thus far its the Manticore [M], based upon the menu comparisons. I don't want to fight the interface. If the M has the same access to parameters, it wins on usability.
Good video Merrill, I am patiently waiting for my manticore and think it will be great. I am really impressed with the new equinoxes also, I think they will be totally awesome. I love the new scale and the color screen looks cool. There are so many good choices now and different machines will work better for different people, it depends on the person.
Thx for this one..I find myself leaning toward simplicity these days..you bring up great points..On to the next..
Thanks for the informative video. I am a current owner of a Garrett AT Max. I just started researching and detecting seriously last year and decided to upgrade to a multi-frequency detector since I felt like I was missing good targets due to lack of separation technology. I would prefer to stay with American made but we are not there compared to Minelab or Deus.
If I had a Minelab 800, I would hold tight on the Manticore purchase since I feel the 800 can compete with both the 900 and Manticore at this time. Since I have neither and mostly a land hunter, I am going with the Manticore for simplicity and the opportunity for programming upgrades in the future that can combat the nail falsing in the future. I plan to keep the Manticore for many years and the AT Max as a backup since I am not the type who runs out and grabs the latest and greatest.
Get a nice used 800 ...... BUT, make sure you hunt all the spot you have wore out with your Max. You will find things at those spots, especially deep silver. You should be able to pick up a used Nox for less that you paid for your Max.
American technology put multi frequencies in DFX detector in the late 90s and in the early 2000's the V3i ran 3 with a display screen that rivals detectors today. They were ahead of their time and people didn't want to spend time to learn them. Meanwhile their patents expired and Mi elab took them and ran with it. The difference today is the speed of micro processors which is the only reason they get better depth but for over 50 years detectors never changed the basic principle of transmitting a magnetic field through a coil inducing a response in the target metal and picked up by the receiver coil. Pulse induction is about the only other difference in how these detectors work. With all of these new detectors coming out in the last 5 years when you look back at it they aren't really pushing the needle very much other then bells and whistles on a digital screen. And now they use colors to drive market share. Minelab put out the Nox 600, 700, 800, 900 Manticore and even that is going back to somewhat the same platform they started with in the CTX 3030. They flood the market with detectors for maximum profit. They are notorious for releasing machines that should never be released until all problems get worked out. I think it's horrible the customer has to inform them that they release detectors that aren't ready to be released and they've done this back to the late 90's with the Excalibre that leaked. The batteries would die in weeks and it took months sometimes up to 6 months to send it in to be repaired and have it returned. They do this with your money in their pocket and 40 years later the Manticore is gonna do the same thing. By 40 years they still can't get rid of an iron nail where my old DFX clearly shows bars on a screen saying there's iron wrapping around and causing the falsing of a signal and it would give reading on the display warning that literally says "target overload" when a signal over big iron like a horseshoe that wraps around the VDI scale. Yet today Minelab detectors are still digging horseshoes??? Why am I the only person that questions this lol IDK sheeze . If they use old out dated tech at least use that tech in their discrimination also instead of selling a new machine a year later claiming to be the best and it's not. It's possibly gone backwards??? They are concentrated more on profits then developing a great product for it's price which is exactly what Makro has done. In fact they are about to break out soon mark my word they are starting to develope the tech to image the ground in real time. This is a leap forward everything else is bells and whistles if you look how far they push the bar It's literally micro but their price point increase is macro (pun intended)
Amazing comment! I am turning this in to a video. Thank you!
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Merrill I just saw that video on my other device I was gonna reply to it later. Different tablets I have have different RUclips material subscribed. But I would like to follow up on a couple of things. For instance I might've been off a year or two on my memory of when certain detectors came out but that's what happens when you get old. At least it shows I try helping with comments from experience and I'm not one of those guys who google something then they come on and post as if they know everything. I also deal with PTS from a near death accident so at times my might gets a little excited and I may not word things the way I should and posting comments 2:00 a.m. half a sleep doesn't help. I'll explain a little better when I reply on your video. But yeah it was a surprise to first see that comment in highlights which I thought someone commented the same thing as I did but it was more of a surprise to see how you found that video of White engineer explaining "dual frequency" not this multi simultaneously blah blah blah nonsense sales pitch of Minelab when it doesn't process as many as it leads people to believe. I have a cool story about why Whites didn't apply for that patent yet Minelab sneaks in and does it. Thanks for the videos keep em coming
Merril, you're hilarious 😂 , however, you teach very well. I appreciate your enthusiasm and zest for knowledge. Thanks for sharing with us
Thank you so much!
Excellent video Merrill. I do love my Deus I and II.
Very cute doggies BTW,
Liked and Subbed!
Thank you!!!
That makes two of us I absolutely unequivocally love the D2!
Very nice video, thanks. Would you recommend one of this detectors for beginners or will be to complicated for me?
My Deus 2 experience dovetails yours on several un-ease of use parameters, and the hella good performance parameters. Paid for itself with one find as well. It could be sooo much better if the ease of use, and the uncomfortable afterthought headphone design were addressed. Great video and congrats on the peer review!
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Hi Merrill, thanks for all those great little tips on the pros and cons of both those two. But the reason as you mentioned that you felt more are ease with the Minelab is common for all us older people ( which is probably the vast majority of people in this sport/hobby/obsession).
It is the screen is larger, the fonts are bolder and easier to see, the Deus screen is faint and not easy to see the tiny icons in the bright sunshine. Thanks for warning me about the Desus coil it is a pain to charge and the wire breaks? I guess after this video of yours Desus 3 will becoming out soon.
Oh by the way there is a brand new Electric car on the market.....the Chevrolet "EQUINOX" ....come on man how cool would you look driving that up to the beach, make, Phil, Lou, and Adel green with Envy!
LOL I saw the Chevy Equinox on the road today! Thanks WUW!
Something to consider is the WS6 Master setup for the Deus 2 ($899 new). Bought used for $650. Much more affordable and zero compromises! Much closer price to Legend and all the same features as remote unit that sells for 1.6K. Would the WS6 Master take the #1 spot?
That is a great point.
Merrill you can solve the problem with the speaker by swapping the dark plug for the red one and blowing into the speaker.
Very good video Merryl! For a knuckle head like myself, I'm going with the Manticore, it looks so much easier to navigate and operate. Looking forward to your comparison videos to come, thanks.
Thanks for posting this Merrill. This helps a lot. I'm #15 on the waiting list with my dealer for the Manticore. Been strongly looking at the deus2, wondering if i made the right choice. After your video I can see that it's going to be okay either way. Thanks. Down the road I'll pick up a deus2 for the beach. Learning The tones on the deus2 would be Great to learn and use. Thanks again for the information.
It is! You are going to love your Manticore! There is no question about that!
@@MetalDetectingNYC I've learned so much from watching your videos thanks for taking the time to produce them. Also, fair warning, I own the same wooden chairs you do around your table... Those things are dangerous man, they break.. I've lost two of them in the last year. I'm not heavy either It's something about the design. They're flawed to break. My dad just broke one at Thanksgiving... Down to only two left. They break at the leg... something about them. Lol. Thanks again for everything you do.
Nice tests. I'm in NY also.... Trash separation is King indeed.
Great video, just purchased the 800 and worried about going in the water at the beach, beach all around me here in NZ.... Thanks for the time you spend putting these video's together.. New to all this so a big learning curve!
Awesome vid Merril. True test for us tropical detectorist will be 3-5 day a week shallow saltwater divers. If it doesn’t become a Floodacore for 1 year, then it’s a true competitor to D2 🤙🏽 send me a demo mindlab
Well said!!!
Try prospecting audio for the manticore, I hear it is similar to the square tones for the Deus 2.... I am on the fence between the Manticore and Deus 2 for the beach, fortunately I have a little time to see how things play out... Another awesome video, I subscribed and liked!!!!1
Thank you Kevin!
Thanks, Great Video, I am staying with my Garrett Master Hunter from the 80's :))
Waiting for my manticore pre order. Any idea when they're shipping out to the public? Looking forward to seeing your future hunts with it. Cheers sir love your videos. Happy new year!! 🥂😊
I was an Air Metal Detector backer and never received one. Delivery was supposed to be back in 2020 and they had one delay after another. I finally gave up but wondering if anyone heard what happen. Found your channel and thought it was worth an ask.. great stuff BTW!
As was I. They are Ukrainian, so I stopped holding my breath.
Was all a sham.
Thanks! I have been using a explorer SE and it is terrible… have to dig everything. i was looking at the deus 2 but I really don’t like the wireless coil , seams like this will just be another something to mess with.. so right now I’m looking at the legend, or the 900. As for the manticore I’m not likening the nail problem. Thanks for the information it is really helping with my decision..
Why you don't like wireless coil? Deus2 is a great metal detector, has a great deep ...In search at sea currently is the n1 as depth and ease of use
Thank you so much Paul! If you are going from an Explorer, I would go Legend first. It is 95% of the capability for 1/3 of the price. Having that said you will be happy with either the Deus 2 or Manticore (or Equinox for that matter). The value is in the Legend. The top of the line performance is in the Manticore or Deus 2.
My thought when I saw the wireless coil. If I’m out in the field and the battery is dead on the head set i can use the external speaker, If the box goes dead i can use a external battery charge and still operate (providing the unit will run while being changed) if the coil goes dead I’m done for the day.
Nwdetectors demonstrates metal detecting techniques to work around nails and the halo, with the Manticore.
Minelab Manticore Test on 12-inch Silver Quarter with Iron VS Nails! Buried over 1.5 years!
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Exactly
I made the mistake of getting the Deus 2 on release date. Will leave it a year before thinking of getting the manticore. Very disappointed that XP didn’t bring out an update for it in December like they said they would. Is a good job I’ve still got my Deus 1 with HF coil. Thanks for the video mate.
Interesting! You prefer the D1 to the D2. I love the D2 on the beach especially
@@MetalDetectingNYC yes I never do beaches I hear the Deus 2 is great on them. It’s also found me lots of silver hammered coins and a gold coin on quiet pasture. In the U.K. the Roman fields are highly mineralised. That’s my by far preferred place to detect. Deus 1 with HF coil is awesome in those sites but Deus 2 struggles unfortunately.
@@AngloCelticMetalDetecting добрый день! Подскажите пожалуйста, какие настройки вы применяете на римских полях с Д1 и с Д2? Я стою перед выбором: менять д1 на д2 или нет. С Д1 давно хожу с белой катушкой, находки меня радуют. Но хочу попробовать Д2. Если не затруднит вас, напишите настройки.
@@AngloCelticMetalDetecting Deus II has problems in mineralised fields (coil hunting)?
Thx!
TIME for a Legend comparison again. XP, Manticore, Legend. PLEASE!
I think the best point you made in this video is something I’ve already pondered when considering buying a manticore. “How much deeper do you really want to dig?” I own a nox 600 and I bought the Legend when so many people started having issues with the nox leaking. So now I keep the nox for a backup detector. 99% of my hunting is done in the water and those 2 detectors find targets pretty much as deep as I’m able to recover a target in the water and sometimes deeper than I can dig. I just can’t come up with a good reason to throw $1500 at another detector. I agree with you the Legend is a tremendous detector for the price. It’s basically an equinox that doesn’t leak. Maybe the manticore might be more stable in salt water than the legend? I can crank the sensitivity pretty high with the legend tho. I’d love to buy a manticore. I just need someone to give me a good reason to own it over the legend and I haven’t heard one yet.
Rei has really skinny rope/string with mega lb ratings to replace lanyard on D2! Highly recommended, my first time out I climbed 500ish ft elevation to realize my remote was gone and the panic ensued! Later that day found 1895 "o" barber so it worked out. This rope or any equivalent along with a piece tied to stem with a clip between them gives me peace of mind and I no longer worry!
I forgot. It comes with a cable to not lose the control box, use it😅and if you have the opportunity buy the Gray Ghost headphones with special underwater attack/connector. I use them and they are fantastic.👋👋
Merrill, you have the most honest reviews on detectors, keep up the excellent work. 👍👍
Thanks Merrill. Second time I watched this vid. Until I get my Manticore I keep watching your videos. I'll send you a few bucks for your efforts now and then. You deserve it.
Wally! Thank you so much!!!
D2
Screen too small.
Too many batteries to keep charged.
Sounds like a sick duck.
Have to add that spaghetti wire to hunt in water.
Screen is not color.
No light.
No vibration.
loves iron.
Loves EMI.
1 to 10 I give it a 4 !
It really depends on what you want to do. If you are into pulling that last Reale or half dime off an old cellar hole lip you will buy a Deus, take the time to learn it and do just that ....... find the few remaining items you missed over the last 30 years in HEAVY iron. If that's not your thing, honestly, most any quality machine will be great.
Always so informational and educational. Great work Merrill.
Have you tried the the noise cancel trick on the manticore yet.where yo push and hold the noise cancel button down till it settles down.in all terrain normal.high as you can get high conductors.or single frequency 5 for depth.
Great info Merrill! I bought the 900 for the simple reason to see if I can flood it? Have always used minelab machines but have flooded the CTX, 2 800s and 2 600s? The only machine I havent flooded is my Xcal! The only true water machine! Im a water hunter in Florida and have to say I hunt with several friends (in water) that have the Deus 2 and have not had a water issue? WHATS UP MINELAB??? Love the machines so I thought I would take a chance on it being EXTREMELY WATERPROOFED???? We will see? Another super video Merrill! Always enjoy!! 👍👍👍👍👍
The idea that you are gonna completely clear all the targets from one area or that you never gonna miss a target I think is not possible, let's start with that. No matter which metal detector you choose you always gonna miss some targets, the way I see it is how much time are you going to take to get to know your metal detector and base on my experience of more than 13 years with my minelab xplorer II (yes is an old metal detector but still working till today) I will definitely go with a minelab metal detector cause I know, with the proper care that is gonna last me for a really long time.
Thanks for the video and can't way to see when you take the manticore to the beach.
Greetings from California.
Excellent demonstration! what do you think the deepest, Deus 2 (digital) or Nexsus mp3 (analog)? I'm having a hard time to pick one
Wow M. I want to thank you for your continued education on all that is metal detecting and your humanity with your quirky and intelligent humor. It makes learning fun. I’m waiting for my Manticore and now I’m more excited then ever. This year is going to be fantastic. I’ll catch you on the flip 🕳️👨🏻🦯🫡
Love you brother!! Want to dig this weekend?
I'll dig as deep as I need to for the good stuff!!! I've dug thru asphalt and decades of packed oyster shell driveways!!!
Yessir!
Great video, but on the Deus test you had to swing the coil faster because of the high reactivity.
I'm definitely subscribed. All I've been watching are your lessons. 😂
Merrill, pull your coil cover and file the area where the coil charger slips over, take a little rat tail file and put a bevel on top. Your charger will pop right on now.
Great idea
I have the manticore on order but am a little concerned about some of the tests I have seen so far, it appears it loves nails and gives a false signal I presently have a D2 and a legend I will keep the D2 the legend has to go although it is a good detector for the money. Also considering changing my order to the equinox 900 looks to me like the 2D screen is just a big distraction not that accurate
Another great video Merrill. Absolutely right about needing time with the manticore before actually saying what it is or isn’t…really looking forward to your future videos with the manticore. Hopefully this warm weather coming the next few days in New York/ Long Island sticks around for as long as possible before the metal detecting hibernation starts for us
Merril I took the plunge into both options😂😂
Love the simplicity of the Nox, hoping the Manticore will proof to be a little better then my nox 600, I already love the new features ❤️ Thanks for your info, really helpful 😀 I will see how the machine works out over the year 😁
The dogs are so nice too you when you get the bath going lol! Love it! That's how you get their respect! Yay! Nice review. I'll get the legend lol. I'm poor.
Trust me! You want to Subscribe to this guy.
The detecting tips he gives out are priceless.
You’ll start finding more things day 1!
Nice video. If you are wondering why circular iron always falses, I just made a video that touches upon that subject.
LorenLemcke has the best science based metal detecting videos!
I only want the Manticore for 1 reason …..EMI shielding….. It’s the first multi frequency detector with EMI enhancements
I have the Deus 2, I’ve used it for about a month in tropical salt water and it got moisture in it which shouldn’t have been possible using the red plug and not close to the max depth of 20m (only in the surf line). It detects great but to be honest target ID is very difficult (maybe only me) because a 10k ring and a pull tab can read the same (33), or a silver item reads the same as a bottle cap(77-80). All these are in sand on the beach or in the surf. The Deus reads pretty deep (12 inches all day easy). So I end up digging almost everything!! lol
Manticore has an even worse discriminator, ID shows gold 20...30...50...70....80. The best discriminator was only in Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
I guess I'm old school, I still use the E trac but it's getting long in the tooth. Been contemplating a new detector so I've been watching for something to pop out at me on the Manticore by watching these trials. So far I can only assume it's a great detector but I have not seen anything yet that screams that it's better than the Equinox yet. I might be more inclined to look at the 700 or 900 coming out if they fixed the leaking problem. Thanks for the video
I agree with you! Nothing has proven to me either that it is leaps and bounds better than the Equinox yet.
Great information Merrill. Thanks
Hey Merrill, first i like your channel very much !! My question : When i use the Equinox 800 with the 15 inch coil on the wet beach, how much depth would i loose in comparison with the Deus 2 ? Thank you in advance , best regards from Trier (Germany), Andreas
The 11 inch coil on the deus is the depth equivalent of the 15 on the nox.
Wow, this video was really so eye opening in so many ways, so much information on both machines and yes both have that extra sound, Xtra lightness, Xtra programs for this that & the other, and great to all who go out and concour this ( Xtra ) technology when we get the time to figure the ( Xtra) out!, mean while I,ll stick to using the Equinox, or Excalibur 2, last week i found 2 gold rings with the Excalibur 2 where a fellow detector couldn't get them with the XP deus? why well i personal ly think he still needs to learn the ( Xtra) ?, Merrell you said it perfectly alot of people like to punch buttons, some don't, i believe the sale on the XP deus , and the Manticore will suffer due to all the ( Xtra,s), again keep those informative videos coming and teaching us about your understanding of this detectors
Thank you Jaime!
Merci pour le partage .Deux excellentes machine une préférence pour le deus 2 un peu moins cher ....Thanks for sharing. Two excellent machine a preference for the deus 2 a little cheaper ....
If you have ta tired old or injured swing shoulder there is only one clear choice - Deus 2! Few comparisons mention this fact that can be crucial to some of us. A great detector that you can't bear swinging for long will not find much.
Yes! Great point that I really should have gone in to. Ergonomics Deus is king. But in fairness you do not feel the weight of the Manticore. It is distributed so well. But advantage Deus 2 with ergonomics.
You may not, but I would feel the difference after an hour.@@MetalDetectingNYC
10:24 What does the blue wavy bar below the numbers mean?
Red seems to mean iron.
Just found your channel, Got the Deus II as my 1st detector. It's main use is for fresh water diving.
Had for a bout a week. Start making my own programs for it. I set up coins I have already found visually with in wrought iron field of nails, spikes and bolts from the debris field I discovered. I bought this tool for to help find the hidden coins. Mainly gold and silver. The big issue is all the iron hardware that my be next to, below or partially over the coins. My program with a maxed reactivity and low frequency seems the do the best with my tests. But I am open to any suggestions. Thanks.
Merrill, your videos are great thanks. Do you have a video on thin gold chains with the Manticore and XP Deus II? I know all detectors struggle. I dive and recover things for folks here in FL. I’ve been using the Excal II. Leaning on upgrading to a Deus II just worried about the durability. Manticore has limited depth therefore I’d absolutely destroy it within a month.
If where you hunt isn't loaded with too much iron garbage a pulse inductor to hunt along with your VLF will let you run back over and pull chains and earrings the VLF detectors can't hit. But do yourself a favor only run something with like a 950 coil. It matches depth without making you dig a well for a bad target. There is a sound difference in hitting iron compared to gold it just takes using it for a summer. I sweep mine over the swimming hole after I've detected it with the VLF and I only dig the upper (shallow) targets and if there's a chain around this is when you will hit it. The screaming pounding signals are gonna be the iron the gold chain gives a nice mellow constant quick snap like signal. Iron hits hard and holds the signal slightly longer passing by the coil whereas the gold let's go just past center coil. The few iron I dig was well worth digging when you see a big difference in the chains that you will dig. Maybe find a friend who owns one and practice listening to the length of the signal not so much how solid the signal is. Your ear can work well to act as a disc for a pulse Inductor but don't use a big coil or it defeats the purpose. You want that smaller footprint especially on hearing a diamond stud earring or a piece of a chain and yes it will hit a piece of a chain
My Garrett sea hunter 2(P.I.) couldn't see gold chains.
CTX 3030 has entered the chat...
I have a CZ21, Legend, TDI, Minelab F1A4, and CTX at the moment. Had basically every other detector (V3i, Deus 2, Equinox, Sovereign GT, beach hunter, Infinium LS, etc.) but sold them. I grab the CTX every time I hunt unless I'm hunting super heavy trash, in which case I grab the TDI (TDI can cherry pick low conductors better than any VLF), or water hunting where I grab the Legend because the CTX always sports the 17" coil.
Everyone runs the CTX in Auto+3 and doesn't realize how crazy sensitive it is when you switch to manual sensitivity... literally like 6 inches deeper.
Even Minelab still calls the CTX their Flagship machine, with Manticore between Equinox and CTX.
I know my opinion on it isnt popular with some. I just couldnt get past the lack of separation compared to the Nox. It literally sat in my basement for 2 years. Its a matter of resonating with a persons detecting worldview. It resonated with you and not me.