I almost didn't test Drive the H6 from watching Australian reviews on it, but I am glad I did eventually test drive it. I found the car to be pleasant and comfortable and the best fit for me and my family, did I mention the insane value for money? I tell you if you listen to these guys you will only buy Toyota Rav 4s.
Jeez the Aussies are biased in every review they do. H6 Hybrid is an amazing car. Averaging 6.1l /100km so far. Smooth and comfortable , really is good value and bang for your buck.
Totally agree, just test drove the H6 hev, I found it absolutely fantastic to drive, super quiet, and the features are not just gimmicks, the 360’ camera and park assist will get some serious use, the sunroof, the ventilated seats (great if you get warm summers) and the large boot ticked all the boxes for me, and I was hell bent on getting a RAV4 before getting in the H6 Hev! As I was on a budget, I was looking at a used RAV4, but for a similar price, I could get the top spec H6 hev! I won’t be doing a lot of motorway driving, mainly family orientated, plenty of day trips to the beach, shopping, and a need for carrying large items, hence a large boot is a must, and a car that will give plenty of confidence driving, which the 360’ cameras certainly do, my wife definitely loves this feature. The power is also a great bonus, knowing that if you do need to overtake someone, it’s there in spades. I think there’s some serious bias against Chinese cars, imagine complaining that wing mirrors are in your line of sight! Where did you expect them to be? and complaining about wheel spin? I believe there’s launch control if needed, or maybe just don’t floor it every time?
My wife and I test drove a number of these mid sized SUVs and eventually settled on the H6. I agree, the ride can be better and only having access to climate control and other functions via the touch screen is sometimes annoying. However, two things won us over: 1. the literally insane value for money that the H6 offers and 2. the fact that we did not have to wait for almost a year to get in behind the wheel of our new car. I reckon if GWM can sort out the suspension and some of the interior control surfaces with a midlife refresh model they will surely be up there with the best in class.
A really smart choice. Outstanding value, ridiculously good looking, heaps of safety tech, doesn't use mush petrol - and no waiting. Well done! Richard
Watching the video, was thinking Haval would win hands down. But when i heard the Rav4 is "more sporty" than the Haval. I knew impartiality was out the window. Can somome explain to me how the Haval with a bigger battery pack, turbo engine producing more HP and torque combined is less sporty than the Rav4. The fact that you can cruise up to 60km/h before engine kicks in while you cant get the Rav4 out of the parking lot before ICE kicks in. Of course let's not mention Rav 4 interior from 1990s, less tech, less features, etc etc (and yes, I've owned Toyotas and a lexus, but give credit where due)
Not making any observations on whether the Haval or Toyota is actually "sportier" but there is a difference between "sporty" and outright power, I own a Volvo XC60 T8 hybrid it produces 450+ hp and 710nm torque - does 0-100 in 4.8 sec and Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV which has 1/2 the power, /2 the torque and 0-100 in a touch over 6 seconds but the Alfa QV is hands down "sportier" - Despite the 21" Pirelli P-zero's on the Volvo it simply can't handle tight twisty stretches of road with anywhere near the precision and poise (i.e. cornering speed / agility) of the Alfa.
Ok. As a previous Rav 4 owner, I'd say that it was ok to drive. I never heard a single person ever say it's super nice to drive, it's ok. Any of these cars here are probably not any worse. And why would you call it the cheapest? Because it isn't. It's not a drive away price you list.
G'day Chris, which generation RAV4 did you own? What model year was it? Asking because the fifth generation RAV4 we tested is on Toyota's new TNGA chassis, which is excellent for ride and handling. As for the price, the RAV4 is indeed the cheapest. The list price is $40,450 and using Toyota's price calculator the DA price is $42,083. I think that means you owe me a beer ; ) Richard
I have the RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid. Still don't know why jornos rate it so highly. The springs are too firm and the seats likewise so much so I have to readjust my arse every 10 minutes to avoid soreness. Engine is loud and coarse even under moderate acceleration. The JBL stereo is tops however.
@@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars I doubt it. Toyota can't build them quick enough to satisfy demand. It's not a bad car but going over speed humps is very uncomfortable due to springs set too firm. The NVH is poor especially the door seals. Many a times, I mistaken the wind noise or wet tyre noise being caused by windows not fully up but in reality noise coming through the door frame.
Some time ago I traded my Jeep Cherokee in for a Rav 4.. You could love the Jeep for it's character, but it was an absolute junk. The Rav 4 had none. It was like a city bus: you could get with it anywhere with little hustle. But, felt built like an origami: paper thin. When I put on my AC, you could feel the vibrations in your bottom though. Ride was ok, fuel economy so-so.
That's good mileage. I've tested RAV4s and Corolla hybrids in the past which have done average 4.7-5.5L/100km but admittedly I was on country roads and not the peak hour traffic we tested these cars in... Cheers Richard
Wow! I thought the Haval was going to win, plot twist! I'm really surprised that the RAV4 did 8.0L/100kms. I've had mine for 11 months and if I were being honest, I'd say I drive it like I stole it and average 5.5L/100kms. For the record, I've never been a fan of Toyotas and this RAV4 is the first one I've ever owned and loving it. Admittedly, infotainment sucks -- it feels like I've gone backwards 5 years. 🍻
Ha! The RAV4 time machine! The Haval came so close, but it's not the way it drives and feels on the road that stopped it. Your fuel economy is excellent, but I think you probably do more open roads and motorways than our traffic heavy test. We did our fuel testing in peak hour to get a worst case scenario and 8L/100km still isn't bad. Meanwhile the Forester! Can't believe it can call itself a hybrid! Thanks Richard
Think this wuld alway be more bias towards the rav-4 as it has been what other vehicles need to be compared to. I would say that the h6 should be the winner.
I agree with the verdict even though the RAV is seriously lacking on the interior side. Give it a couple of years and the Haval will crush them all I think. On a side note I am 12 months into my wait for my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser.
@@WildDanHibiki With the markets right now, brand new would be cheaper (as of now) because you would have to wait a while. Who knows if it will ever return to normal, especially with the Rav4 hybrids being in such high demand.
Great review! I always enjoy Richard's reviews. They are informative and fun to watch. I'm always curious about how gas mileage numbers are done in Australia. The official numbers always seem so low and the real numbers quite high from what we see in Canada. For example the all wheel drive RAV4 in Canada is rated at 6.0 l/100km. And it is not difficult to reach those numbers (compared to the official 4.7 l/100km and real world 8.0 l/100km shown in the video). I have a 2021 Toyota Venza (Harrier) and over the last year we have averaged 6.3 l/100km. Just wondering why the Australian numbers are so different?
Thank you, glad you like the reviews! OK so the mileage figures. I jumped onto Canada Toyota's website and checked out the specs for the RAV4 and compared the fuel consumption with the Aussie specs and you are absolutely right - the Canadian official fuel numbers are higher than the official Australian ones. There's about a 1.2L difference between the two combined fuel consumptions of the AWD RAV4. And here we enter the murky, so say mystical, world of fuel consumption testing. Australia uses its own regulations for fuel consumption testing and Canada uses its own regulations. The way I test car fuel consumption is to fill the tank to capacity, zero the trip computer, then drive the vehicle on city roads, suburban roads, then rural roads and then motorways/freeways. Then I refill the tank to capacity to find how much fuel has been used. On a comparison like this one, we all met at the petrol station filled each tank to capacity and then drove them over the same distance on the same roads, mostly in a convoy and finished at a petrol station to fill the tanks again. I can then calculate how many litres we've used for each car over the distance travelled. I tend to regard the Australian official fuel consumptions as 'serving suggestions'. You could probably achieve them given ideal conditions, but I think the Canadian way of measuring is a bit more real. Thank you Richard
I have observed that the Carsguide guys always get horrific fuel consumption on their reviews (they drove a new Outlander non-hybrid and somehow got about 14.7L/100, like a V8 would!), so they must be having too much 'fun' ' I think. Meanwhile I test drove a Haval H6 hybrid for an hour on a mix of urban and country roads, including a couple of sprints to feel the power, gauge showed 4.4L/100 at the end.
Our VW Tiguan Allspace 7 seater 110 TDI just averaged 5.3 litres/100 on our family holiday over 1500ks including 4 days of city driving about 1-2 hours a day looking about and 118km/h on the highway on cruise. The long term average over the previous 8500ks was 5.5 and that was mainly town driving plus a bit of driving on the highway to work for my wife 2 days a week. Never averaged over 6 in the 60,000ks we have had it. Might be keeping it a bit longer than planned if hybrids can’t match it in a smaller car.
@@chefgav1 40% cheaper?? No way is it that much cheaper. That’s about 85 cents a litre cheaper. For the first 3.5 years diesel has been about 15-20 cents a litre cheaper. The past 4-5 months diesel has been about 30 cents more expensive. So I’m not too worried. And since when has a Rav 4 been a 7 seater?
@@zapher007 just a 5 second google search shows average diesel price in Sydney is $2.05.6 and 91 is $1.60 which is over40c .Meant 40c not 40%. As all the rav4 owners have said here they get 5.5.. At 45c difference minimum a hybrid is easily cheaper to run
All of them used more than my 2013 Mazda CX-5 2.5 petrol AWD maxx sport. I get between 7.0l -7.6l per 100km almost every time. It all depends how you drive.
My 2018 camry non hybrid gets 6 litres/100 km but a lot higher in the city, closer to 10 litres. Hybrids definitely make sense in the city and that’s why I ordered one 6 weeks ago but not much different to a non-hybrid if you’re on freeways
@@7amido12 I get around 7.5l per 100km in combined city & freeway driving. If it is just city I get around 9l-9.5l. Hybrids do make more sense of you do a lot of city driving such as taxi or Uber. Not so much if you are like most people & do a mix of freeway plus some city driving.
What I like about china and Chinese cars in general is that they provide a valuable service to everyone without extra charge. If you drive a Chinese car say a Haval or MG and like it, then all is good you get what you want and your money's worth. If you hate Chinese cars and do not drive one, then the presence of these cars now and then on the road only makes you feel good about yourself and help reinforce the notion that you're better than the next person at making the right choices. Either way everybody wins so I fail to see what the haters are onabout.
We tested all cars in a convoy during a day which included both morning and afternoon peak-hour traffic. So a lot of acceleration and braking to stationary. That type of driving absolutely send fuel consumption through the roof. With that in mind the 8L/100km is pretty good. Cheers Richard
The H6 is very good. I think GWM needs to do more research and development on the suspension and steering. If it can do that, then the future H6 will be hard to beat. Cheers Richard
I very much doubt that mate. Wife wanted a Prius, so we got one. Best you could get out of it was 5.2 litres combined. And that's half the size of the Rav 4...
@@chriswording8638 I was expecting something in the 7s. As if I drive conservatively I can get in the 7s in my CX-5 2.5 petrol. If I drive normally or with some punch then yes it’s more like 8. But I would have though a hybrid would be better.
The Subaru hybrid Forester would have to be the biggest waste of time and money hybrid all that complexity for next to gain in fuel efficiency or performance
If you’re keeping for 10 years Toyota. Skimpy spec list and not overly comfy, but well built. Keeping for 2 years then Havel and enjoy life’s little luxuries.
This is such a good comparison video, both myself and my partner are around the same height as you so it's really useful to see these cars from a tall person perspective 😀
I’d never touch a diesel, I only wish Mazda made more hybrid models. SUVs aren’t for me but small hatches/sedans are. Even then, I like the Mazda3 but there’s no true hybrid option across the range like the Corolla Hybrid. I’d love to be able to use half the fuel for the same journey, more worth it given high fuel prices. If I had to get a medium SUV, I’d get a top of the line CX-5 with the 2.5 Turbo - what a fun and powerful engine.
It seems Mazda has worked hard to develop its combustion engines to be more efficient at the expense of working on EVs. A Hybrid Mazda3 would be excellent, an battery electric Mazda3 even better. That 2.5-litre turbo CX-5 is very good though, cheers Richard
I like the Mazda brand but not the old diesel technology. The Subaru has disappointing fuel consumption but is probably the most capable high clearance AWD. I drove one for years long distances and often on remote outback roads. It got me through and comfortably. I have recently got a rav 4 cruiser. If it is able to replicate the solid reliability, comfort and safety of Toyotas I have driven in connection with my job I will be happy. It is a joy to drive. Uncomfortable with its intrusive connected services though. As for the H6 I am not going to own a vehicle from an Industry which is so heavily subsidised by the Chinese government. Great review.
Steve, great idea and we might have something coming up like that. I've just driven the Escape Plug-in Hybrid and then drove the Outlander Plug-in. I can't talk about the Outlander just yet (sworn to secrecy), but the review and video is coming out around the middle of August. cheers Richard
I would have picked up the toyota RAV 4 hybrid anyday but 1.5years waiting time vs 3 months waiting time for HAVAL. I had to choose the later. Also I really wanted the large sunroof for that price
We have the CX diesel! Top top car!❤ If you drive highway kilometres, the CX 5 will outperform all the rest on fuel consumption. Hybrids are only good for city driving and if you don’t tow. That said, my wife’s next car will be between the RAV 4 hybrid or CX 60 diesel/hybrid.
I average 5.5 ltrs to the 100 klm with my 2021 Rav hybrid out on the road over long distances so that gives me around 1,000 ks a tank and people say the fuel economy of hybrids on the highway is not good there would only be a few SUV’s out there that would better that
@@paulvictor9368 no not really I take a trailer full of green waste to our local tip a couple of times a month but otherwise I don’t need it to tow anything
Lest you jest at Mazda's nomenclature for the faux leather, Pontiac called their's "Morrokide" and vaunted Mercedes-Benz was "MB Tex". What's in a name? It's catchy and distinguishes it from other brands, and conveys exactly what it is, just like a good name should.
How dangerous is a faulty hybrid system if the vehicle is alive I noticed this at a race. The hybrid system was alive and the driver told the marshals not to touch the vehicle for been sapped
Hi Wayne, a valid point but the ADRs are so strict that the tech would need to be fail safe. Petrol can also be incredibly dangerous, but the number of incidents is tiny compared to the millions of cars carrying 60 litres of the highly combustible liquid day in day out. As with petrol engines, as electric vehicles develop over the decades so will the safety systems around them. Cheers Richard
@@carsguide petrol you can see and smell If a electric power vehicle was involved in a accident What’s the one thing you do straight away Grab the door handle and then get zapped And the power of electric is very high
Shocked at the poor mileage from all of these - my v6 Audi Q5 diesel used less than 7l per 100km over many thousands of km (at the pump) pulling around a 2.5 ton vehicle.
I'm not sure how you're able to get such terrible fuel economy across the board, especially the Rav4. Mine has never seen economy start with a 7 let alone an 8
I don’t know what they do on these tests. But I get 7-7.5l per 100km out my 2013 CX-5 2.5 petrol with 130,000kms on the clock. Something doesn’t add up here.
It’s what people want, that’s why it’s the best selling passenger car in Australia. People want proven reliability and fuel economy to get them from A to B with minimal fuss, not lapping the Nurburgring. Again this is THE best selling passenger car in Australia, a massive number of people are buying it over other cars.
This Haval H6 reminds me of the Peugeot 3008. Even the interior (and especially the central area of the steering wheel) seems to be inspired by the French. So ... I would have preferred in this comparison a Peugeot 3008 with Mazda, Subaru and Toyota.
Hello Richard As always your videos are fab. Appreciate your work. But I have confusion if you want to choose between Rav4 HV GXL AWD Auto CVT which is now $50453 and Haval H6 Ultra hybrid which is $46103 then which one would you go for. I am getting both the cars in next week for the above mentioned price, so availability is not the issue for me. I am really confused and unable to make the decision. After sale market of haval is not so good as compared to Rav4. And now they have raised the price of rav4 so I am not sure is it worth to buy Rav4 or haval at this time now. Is this something you can please guide on. By any chance if you can please reply little early it would be really appreciated.
Your fuel usage for the RAV was 8.5 litres/hundred. I don’t know what on earth your driving style is, but, I’m tipping you’re pretending you’re Lewis Hamilton because I owned a RAV for 12 months and my average consumption was 4.9. 🤷♂️
I have one big issue with all these suvs. All of them have way too much technology. They are over stuffed with unnecessary crap. No one needs a heated steering wheel or heated seats or most of the other gizmos. They have all lost what they are meant to do which is be good a being a car! Not a computer on wheels. Also I despair at all car reviewers these days focused on bloody screens. They are all way too distracting & pointless in my view. As a mechanic all of these cars will develop electronic gremlins it’s a fact. they are pain in the rear end to try & fix stupid electronic issues because of all the stupid computer modules. If anyone needs a blind spot monitor or lane keeping assist to help driving then they are a crap driver. No one needs this stupid tech I turn all of these systems off I can’t stand them.
Chinese car is real 😍 I own a Forthing T5evo (DongFeng) 1.5T 7speeds DCT fuel consumption is very good🔥 I average about 8L/100km. On highway I average about 4-5 L/100km.
I own Mazda CX5 diesel and my advice is: stay away! Those engines are not durable and costly to repair. And Mazda is not helpful either. Check Mazda owners forums for most common issues with those.
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I almost didn't test Drive the H6 from watching Australian reviews on it, but I am glad I did eventually test drive it. I found the car to be pleasant and comfortable and the best fit for me and my family, did I mention the insane value for money? I tell you if you listen to these guys you will only buy Toyota Rav 4s.
Are you still enjoying your Haval. I know this is an old review, and you might not answer. Cheers.
Jeez the Aussies are biased in every review they do. H6 Hybrid is an amazing car. Averaging 6.1l /100km so far. Smooth and comfortable , really is good value and bang for your buck.
Totally agree, just test drove the H6 hev, I found it absolutely fantastic to drive, super quiet, and the features are not just gimmicks, the 360’ camera and park assist will get some serious use, the sunroof, the ventilated seats (great if you get warm summers) and the large boot ticked all the boxes for me, and I was hell bent on getting a RAV4 before getting in the H6 Hev! As I was on a budget, I was looking at a used RAV4, but for a similar price, I could get the top spec H6 hev! I won’t be doing a lot of motorway driving, mainly family orientated, plenty of day trips to the beach, shopping, and a need for carrying large items, hence a large boot is a must, and a car that will give plenty of confidence driving, which the 360’ cameras certainly do, my wife definitely loves this feature. The power is also a great bonus, knowing that if you do need to overtake someone, it’s there in spades.
I think there’s some serious bias against Chinese cars, imagine complaining that wing mirrors are in your line of sight! Where did you expect them to be? and complaining about wheel spin? I believe there’s launch control if needed, or maybe just don’t floor it every time?
My wife and I test drove a number of these mid sized SUVs and eventually settled on the H6. I agree, the ride can be better and only having access to climate control and other functions via the touch screen is sometimes annoying. However, two things won us over: 1. the literally insane value for money that the H6 offers and 2. the fact that we did not have to wait for almost a year to get in behind the wheel of our new car.
I reckon if GWM can sort out the suspension and some of the interior control surfaces with a midlife refresh model they will surely be up there with the best in class.
A really smart choice. Outstanding value, ridiculously good looking, heaps of safety tech, doesn't use mush petrol - and no waiting. Well done! Richard
Is it really fuel economy?
Mate watch a few videos on how to customise the main display with all the quick access shortcuts. SMH
I do notice that a lot of buyers are now rushing into Haval. However, as a fan of diesel, I still like the CX-5 diesel.
Mazda diesels are poor.
Diesel fumes will kill you
Why are you a fan of diesel?
I knew RAV4 will win before I even watched this. A bit stacked. Well done toyota!
Well, it was closer than I thought it was going to be. cheers Richard
I thought Haval H6 was the winner.. Very close though. Not a fan of RAV4 design but I understand it's subjective
Yep, Toyota really seems to find hard to design good looking cars... Although Supra... cheers Richard
Watching the video, was thinking Haval would win hands down. But when i heard the Rav4 is "more sporty" than the Haval. I knew impartiality was out the window. Can somome explain to me how the Haval with a bigger battery pack, turbo engine producing more HP and torque combined is less sporty than the Rav4. The fact that you can cruise up to 60km/h before engine kicks in while you cant get the Rav4 out of the parking lot before ICE kicks in. Of course let's not mention Rav 4 interior from 1990s, less tech, less features, etc etc (and yes, I've owned Toyotas and a lexus, but give credit where due)
Because haval didn't pay him enough money.
Mazda paid him soooo well so he even jamed in a diesel Mazda.
Not making any observations on whether the Haval or Toyota is actually "sportier" but there is a difference between "sporty" and outright power, I own a Volvo XC60 T8 hybrid it produces 450+ hp and 710nm torque - does 0-100 in 4.8 sec and Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV which has 1/2 the power, /2 the torque and 0-100 in a touch over 6 seconds but the Alfa QV is hands down "sportier" - Despite the 21" Pirelli P-zero's on the Volvo it simply can't handle tight twisty stretches of road with anywhere near the precision and poise (i.e. cornering speed / agility) of the Alfa.
Ok. As a previous Rav 4 owner, I'd say that it was ok to drive. I never heard a single person ever say it's super nice to drive, it's ok. Any of these cars here are probably not any worse. And why would you call it the cheapest? Because it isn't. It's not a drive away price you list.
G'day Chris, which generation RAV4 did you own? What model year was it? Asking because the fifth generation RAV4 we tested is on Toyota's new TNGA chassis, which is excellent for ride and handling. As for the price, the RAV4 is indeed the cheapest. The list price is $40,450 and using Toyota's price calculator the DA price is $42,083. I think that means you owe me a beer ; ) Richard
Got my Toyota RAV4 AWD hybrid a few days ago - very happy with it.
I have the RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid. Still don't know why jornos rate it so highly. The springs are too firm and the seats likewise so much so I have to readjust my arse every 10 minutes to avoid soreness. Engine is loud and coarse even under moderate acceleration. The JBL stereo is tops however.
Do u suppose it might be umm Kickback?..LOL
@@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars I doubt it. Toyota can't build them quick enough to satisfy demand. It's not a bad car but going over speed humps is very uncomfortable due to springs set too firm. The NVH is poor especially the door seals. Many a times, I mistaken the wind noise or wet tyre noise being caused by windows not fully up but in reality noise coming through the door frame.
Some time ago I traded my Jeep Cherokee in for a Rav 4.. You could love the Jeep for it's character, but it was an absolute junk. The Rav 4 had none. It was like a city bus: you could get with it anywhere with little hustle. But, felt built like an origami: paper thin. When I put on my AC, you could feel the vibrations in your bottom though. Ride was ok, fuel economy so-so.
Nice my parents also have one also but in Saturn blue colour, My only complaint is the screen is a bit small.
Richard your reviews are awesome! Genuine and easy to understand.
Awww.. comments like this give me the will to read comments again. My reviews aren't awesome, you're awesome. Thank you Richard
This is a totally non bias review.
Love it.😊
I have averaged 5.5L per 100 over more than 6 months in my Hybrid Rav 4 (AWD model)
That's good mileage. I've tested RAV4s and Corolla hybrids in the past which have done average 4.7-5.5L/100km but admittedly I was on country roads and not the peak hour traffic we tested these cars in... Cheers Richard
My rav4 doesn't go below 6.5 l/10km
Wow! This is a top notch comparison video, keep up the good work mate 👌🏾
Thanks mate, nothing like driving and comparing four cars back-to-back. Cheers Richard
Wow! I thought the Haval was going to win, plot twist! I'm really surprised that the RAV4 did 8.0L/100kms. I've had mine for 11 months and if I were being honest, I'd say I drive it like I stole it and average 5.5L/100kms. For the record, I've never been a fan of Toyotas and this RAV4 is the first one I've ever owned and loving it. Admittedly, infotainment sucks -- it feels like I've gone backwards 5 years. 🍻
Ha! The RAV4 time machine! The Haval came so close, but it's not the way it drives and feels on the road that stopped it. Your fuel economy is excellent, but I think you probably do more open roads and motorways than our traffic heavy test. We did our fuel testing in peak hour to get a worst case scenario and 8L/100km still isn't bad. Meanwhile the Forester! Can't believe it can call itself a hybrid! Thanks Richard
@@carsguide hybrids are less efficient on motorways and more efficient in urban settings
Think this wuld alway be more bias towards the rav-4 as it has been what other vehicles need to be compared to. I would say that the h6 should be the winner.
I agree with the verdict even though the RAV is seriously lacking on the interior side. Give it a couple of years and the Haval will crush them all I think. On a side note I am 12 months into my wait for my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser.
OMG, it is ridiculous.
Haval won't last for couple of years, it's Chinese sh!t, like CoVID
In what world can you get a Rav 4 hybrid for $40,450?
It’s before on roads. GXL Rav hybrid drive away price would probably be at about $45,000 (give or take).
The cheapest used model is going for 45k and has 70000km on it. I still find this hard to believe.
@@WildDanHibiki With the markets right now, brand new would be cheaper (as of now) because you would have to wait a while. Who knows if it will ever return to normal, especially with the Rav4 hybrids being in such high demand.
@@austin.2716 and with something more than cloth seats,
substantially more I'm guessing.
Agreed, unfair to put a price up that isn't a "drive away".
RAV4 - the proven hybrid , CVT combo that's been around for more than a decade. Quarter million mile - guaranteed.
Yep, Toyota have been doing it longer than anybody else and it shows. Cheers Richard
Great review! I always enjoy Richard's reviews. They are informative and fun to watch. I'm always curious about how gas mileage numbers are done in Australia. The official numbers always seem so low and the real numbers quite high from what we see in Canada. For example the all wheel drive RAV4 in Canada is rated at 6.0 l/100km. And it is not difficult to reach those numbers (compared to the official 4.7 l/100km and real world 8.0 l/100km shown in the video). I have a 2021 Toyota Venza (Harrier) and over the last year we have averaged 6.3 l/100km. Just wondering why the Australian numbers are so different?
Thank you, glad you like the reviews!
OK so the mileage figures. I jumped onto Canada Toyota's website and checked out the specs for the RAV4 and compared the fuel consumption with the Aussie specs and you are absolutely right - the Canadian official fuel numbers are higher than the official Australian ones. There's about a 1.2L difference between the two combined fuel consumptions of the AWD RAV4.
And here we enter the murky, so say mystical, world of fuel consumption testing. Australia uses its own regulations for fuel consumption testing and Canada uses its own regulations.
The way I test car fuel consumption is to fill the tank to capacity, zero the trip computer, then drive the vehicle on city roads, suburban roads, then rural roads and then motorways/freeways. Then I refill the tank to capacity to find how much fuel has been used. On a comparison like this one, we all met at the petrol station filled each tank to capacity and then drove them over the same distance on the same roads, mostly in a convoy and finished at a petrol station to fill the tanks again. I can then calculate how many litres we've used for each car over the distance travelled.
I tend to regard the Australian official fuel consumptions as 'serving suggestions'. You could probably achieve them given ideal conditions, but I think the Canadian way of measuring is a bit more real.
Thank you
Richard
I have observed that the Carsguide guys always get horrific fuel consumption on their reviews (they drove a new Outlander non-hybrid and somehow got about 14.7L/100, like a V8 would!), so they must be having too much 'fun' ' I think. Meanwhile I test drove a Haval H6 hybrid for an hour on a mix of urban and country roads, including a couple of sprints to feel the power, gauge showed 4.4L/100 at the end.
Good to see you Richard. Some reviews without you is boring.
Yay! Love my rav4 hybrid SE. it’s not the most eye catching or tech savvy but it rides well and puts practicality, safety, and dependability first:)
Heck yeah. You've got the priorities right! Cheers Richard
Could you please add wait times for these cars in future videos. Thank you.
Good idea. Mind if I use it? Cheers Richard
Our VW Tiguan Allspace 7 seater 110 TDI just averaged 5.3 litres/100 on our family holiday over 1500ks including 4 days of city driving about 1-2 hours a day looking about and 118km/h on the highway on cruise. The long term average over the previous 8500ks was 5.5 and that was mainly town driving plus a bit of driving on the highway to work for my wife 2 days a week. Never averaged over 6 in the 60,000ks we have had it. Might be keeping it a bit longer than planned if hybrids can’t match it in a smaller car.
Tiguan is a sh!t box full of troubles
91 is cheaper than diesel by 40%. So even if they use 20 % more by your estimation it’s still cheaper to run by 20%.
If you read the comments there are plenty of Rav4 owners jumping up and down claiming they get 5.5 lit/100
@@chefgav1 40% cheaper?? No way is it that much cheaper. That’s about 85 cents a litre cheaper. For the first 3.5 years diesel has been about 15-20 cents a litre cheaper. The past 4-5 months diesel has been about 30 cents more expensive. So I’m not too worried. And since when has a Rav 4 been a 7 seater?
@@zapher007 just a 5 second google search shows average diesel price in Sydney is $2.05.6 and 91 is $1.60 which is over40c .Meant 40c not 40%. As all the rav4 owners have said here they get 5.5.. At 45c difference minimum a hybrid is easily cheaper to run
All of them used more than my 2013 Mazda CX-5 2.5 petrol AWD maxx sport.
I get between 7.0l -7.6l per 100km almost every time. It all depends how you drive.
My 2018 camry non hybrid gets 6 litres/100 km but a lot higher in the city, closer to 10 litres.
Hybrids definitely make sense in the city and that’s why I ordered one 6 weeks ago but not much different to a non-hybrid if you’re on freeways
@@7amido12 I get around 7.5l per 100km in combined city & freeway driving. If it is just city I get around 9l-9.5l. Hybrids do make more sense of you do a lot of city driving such as taxi or Uber. Not so much if you are like most people & do a mix of freeway plus some city driving.
@@anakinskywalker4113 Agreed, I dunno when my rav4 gxl hybrid will arrive 😴 but I am satisfied with the camry so far
Lol car reviewers aren’t known to baby the throttle
@@7amido12 hope it all goes well. Good choice I would have gone for the Toyota out of those tested.
What I like about china and Chinese cars in general is that they provide a valuable service to everyone without extra charge. If you drive a Chinese car say a Haval or MG and like it, then all is good you get what you want and your money's worth. If you hate Chinese cars and do not drive one, then the presence of these cars now and then on the road only makes you feel good about yourself and help reinforce the notion that you're better than the next person at making the right choices. Either way everybody wins so I fail to see what the haters are onabout.
My Rav4 hybrid (AWD Edge) has been burning 4.9 to 5.8 litres per 100km and I'm not even trying. Really curious about how youse got 8 L/100...
We tested all cars in a convoy during a day which included both morning and afternoon peak-hour traffic. So a lot of acceleration and braking to stationary. That type of driving absolutely send fuel consumption through the roof. With that in mind the 8L/100km is pretty good. Cheers Richard
And the lead times for these cars is, I can't imagine many if any are available to buy tomorrow and drive out the showroom within a couple of days
I hear you. It's outrageous. The H6 has the shortest wait time at the moment. Cheers Richard
Australian car reviewers, proudly bought to you by Toyota.
Haval H6 is really a good product with reasonable price. The HEV version gives more power and smooth drive feeling.
They should've made it a 4WD
maybe in the land of the China
The H6 is very good. I think GWM needs to do more research and development on the suspension and steering. If it can do that, then the future H6 will be hard to beat. Cheers Richard
I own a RAV4 Hybrid AWD and have done 150,000 kms in it.... I get 5.2 L/100 how did u do 8L/100 ????.... and pricing $40k? "Tell him he's dream'in!"
That’s what I would like to know? I get 7ish in my 2013 Mazda CX-5 2.5 petrol AWD with 130,000kms. 8l in a new hybrid something is not right.
I very much doubt that mate. Wife wanted a Prius, so we got one. Best you could get out of it was 5.2 litres combined. And that's half the size of the Rav 4...
@@chriswording8638 I was expecting something in the 7s. As if I drive conservatively I can get in the 7s in my CX-5 2.5 petrol. If I drive normally or with some punch then yes it’s more like 8. But I would have though a hybrid would be better.
I had rav xse hybrid and drive for short distance every single day with abit of traffic still manage 5.7litre/100kms
The Subaru hybrid Forester would have to be the biggest waste of time and money hybrid all that complexity for next to gain in fuel efficiency or performance
If you’re keeping for 10 years Toyota. Skimpy spec list and not overly comfy, but well built. Keeping for 2 years then Havel and enjoy life’s little luxuries.
It has 7 years unlimited KM warranty mate. So I'd say, you can easily keep it for that long. What do you get with a Toyota, 5?
This is such a good comparison video, both myself and my partner are around the same height as you so it's really useful to see these cars from a tall person perspective 😀
All car reviews are done by someone his height, how have you managed to find reviews by short people in the past?
I have driven most of the cars. But I love Toyotas most. They are so smooth !!!!
Can you review haval h9 2020 Please
8.0L/100kms? My 2020 GXL AWD Hybrid is at 6.0L/100kms with 29.6k in the odometer.
I’d never touch a diesel, I only wish Mazda made more hybrid models. SUVs aren’t for me but small hatches/sedans are. Even then, I like the Mazda3 but there’s no true hybrid option across the range like the Corolla Hybrid. I’d love to be able to use half the fuel for the same journey, more worth it given high fuel prices. If I had to get a medium SUV, I’d get a top of the line CX-5 with the 2.5 Turbo - what a fun and powerful engine.
It seems Mazda has worked hard to develop its combustion engines to be more efficient at the expense of working on EVs. A Hybrid Mazda3 would be excellent, an battery electric Mazda3 even better. That 2.5-litre turbo CX-5 is very good though, cheers Richard
Great review and a great reviewer. Subscribed.
Awww.. thank you Richard
@@carsguide You're welcome Shirley.
I love my RAV4. Had it for 6 months now. No regrets. Still, no place for my purse if I have a passenger. Not a big deal though.
Will it fit in the door pocket? Great car, good choice, Cheers Richard
keep up the great reviews richard
I own a 2022 Akera turbo diesel
Absolutely brilliant on fuel and dose it get up and boogie
oooh yeah, lots of torque! Cheers Richard
Good overall result, I concur.
Very pleased it gets the Stendec Stretcher approval! Thank you Richard
I like the Mazda brand but not the old diesel technology. The Subaru has disappointing fuel consumption but is probably the most capable high clearance AWD. I drove one for years long distances and often on remote outback roads. It got me through and comfortably. I have recently got a rav 4 cruiser. If it is able to replicate the solid reliability, comfort and safety of Toyotas I have driven in connection with my job I will be happy. It is a joy to drive. Uncomfortable with its intrusive connected services though.
As for the H6 I am not going to own a vehicle from an Industry which is so heavily subsidised by the Chinese government.
Great review.
Would have been nice if you did a comparison or even a stand alone road test of the Ford Escape Hybrid or have I missed something?
Steve, great idea and we might have something coming up like that. I've just driven the Escape Plug-in Hybrid and then drove the Outlander Plug-in. I can't talk about the Outlander just yet (sworn to secrecy), but the review and video is coming out around the middle of August. cheers Richard
I would have picked up the toyota RAV 4 hybrid anyday but 1.5years waiting time vs 3 months waiting time for HAVAL. I had to choose the later. Also I really wanted the large sunroof for that price
Haval no wait here in ACT
We have the CX diesel! Top top car!❤ If you drive highway kilometres, the CX 5 will outperform all the rest on fuel consumption. Hybrids are only good for city driving and if you don’t tow.
That said, my wife’s next car will be between the RAV 4 hybrid or CX 60 diesel/hybrid.
I average 5.5 ltrs to the 100 klm with my 2021 Rav hybrid out on the road over long distances so that gives me around 1,000 ks a tank and people say the fuel economy of hybrids on the highway is not good there would only be a few SUV’s out there that would better that
@@johnchapman2451 that is very good. Have you tried to tow with it?
@@paulvictor9368 no not really I take a trailer full of green waste to our local tip a couple of times a month but otherwise I don’t need it to tow anything
Looking at a new SUV now. Surprised about the price change. The Rav4 is around $10k more than the H6 now.
Lest you jest at Mazda's nomenclature for the faux leather, Pontiac called their's "Morrokide" and vaunted Mercedes-Benz was "MB Tex". What's in a name? It's catchy and distinguishes it from other brands, and conveys exactly what it is, just like a good name should.
in NZ the H6 only has 5 years warranty for some weird reason
Yes very weird that you get 2 years less
do you live in Rotorua?
@@linyuan6530 in Tauranga
Why did you review the cx5 with the old screen ? Where is the new 10"
Fat lot of good winning this test will do when you can't get one for 18 months
I know Mitchell - hopefully the supply issues are fixed soon. Cheers mate Richard
I’ll take the H6 everyday of the week.
mate with the right drive away price tag, we might have a different winner
What about the mg hs phev?
Where is the Sportage hybrid?
How dangerous is a faulty hybrid system if the vehicle is alive
I noticed this at a race. The hybrid system was alive and the driver told the marshals not to touch the vehicle for been sapped
Hi Wayne, a valid point but the ADRs are so strict that the tech would need to be fail safe. Petrol can also be incredibly dangerous, but the number of incidents is tiny compared to the millions of cars carrying 60 litres of the highly combustible liquid day in day out. As with petrol engines, as electric vehicles develop over the decades so will the safety systems around them. Cheers Richard
@@carsguide petrol you can see and smell
If a electric power vehicle was involved in a accident
What’s the one thing you do straight away
Grab the door handle and then get zapped
And the power of electric is very high
Shocked at the poor mileage from all of these - my v6 Audi Q5 diesel used less than 7l per 100km over many thousands of km (at the pump) pulling around a 2.5 ton vehicle.
God, you're funny. That auto reverse parking scene haha.
It’s be fine if you could actually buy the Rav 4
True words. Cheers Richard
The Subaru just is way behind the pack unfortunately as a hybrid. Save your money and get the Naturally aspirated. The RAV is way out in front.
Lovely review @richard Barry 👌🏻👌🏻🤝🤝
I'm not sure how you're able to get such terrible fuel economy across the board, especially the Rav4. Mine has never seen economy start with a 7 let alone an 8
I don’t know what they do on these tests.
But I get 7-7.5l per 100km out my 2013 CX-5 2.5 petrol with 130,000kms on the clock.
Something doesn’t add up here.
But at least it's fair since all four SUVs are much higher than we expected.
@@anakinskywalker4113 because they don’t baby the throttle and drive like miss daisy.Like others have said 5.5 can be achieved on the rav4
My old tiguan awd allspace bettered all these around town so not too sure about the hybrids prices
Motor journalists don’t baby the throttle.A 5 lit/100 can be achieved in a rav4
Where’s Honda CR-V??
Please do 7 seaters as well
h6 is beter than rav4
Probably not, the RAV 4 still has the reliability history going for it.
@@chriswording8638 pretty sureToyota has the highest amount of recalls of any car company in the world ? How is that reliable
@@mixirabbit998 all major car companies have recalls , toyota is not saint , but the reliability of parts and costs is incredible in any Toyota
@@chriswording8638 Toyota has 32 recalls in 2 years gwm haval had none in last 13 years
Another fun review
The RAV4 Hybrid is such a dull boring car to drive but if it won this then I can only imagine how terrible the others must be.
When a car is dull and boring its usually made and designed for non-car people.
The RAV4 wins because it is the most fuel-efficient and affordable one on the list.
It’s what people want, that’s why it’s the best selling passenger car in Australia. People want proven reliability and fuel economy to get them from A to B with minimal fuss, not lapping the Nurburgring. Again this is THE best selling passenger car in Australia, a massive number of people are buying it over other cars.
@@User-cb4jm zzzzz boring.
@@User-cb4jm zzzz boring.
I agree the Rav 4 looks sporty
This Haval H6 reminds me of the Peugeot 3008. Even the interior (and especially the central area of the steering wheel) seems to be inspired by the French. So ... I would have preferred in this comparison a Peugeot 3008 with Mazda, Subaru and Toyota.
But the Peugeot 3008 would be a lot more expensive, which makes it impossible to win the comparison.
@@acde9355 In Europe, the 3008 is comparable to any of the three ... and below the RAV4 at around 2,000 Euros.
@@gelu8312 Unfortunately, we're not in Europe.
Nobody buy Peugeot in Australia.
cx5 and rav4 design is still the best and driving cx5 is better than those 3 cars
Always take what you want, not what you need.
Hello Richard
As always your videos are fab. Appreciate your work.
But I have confusion if you want to choose between Rav4 HV GXL AWD Auto CVT which is now $50453 and Haval H6 Ultra hybrid which is $46103 then which one would you go for.
I am getting both the cars in next week for the above mentioned price, so availability is not the issue for me.
I am really confused and unable to make the decision. After sale market of haval is not so good as compared to Rav4.
And now they have raised the price of rav4 so I am not sure is it worth to buy Rav4 or haval at this time now.
Is this something you can please guide on.
By any chance if you can please reply little early it would be really appreciated.
Where Sportage or Tucson?
Hybrid versions haven’t arrived in Australia yet
You needed to evaluate Waiting Time!!
Funny chap! Bit of humour goes a long way.
Haval need to fix the driving on that H6 HEV & it’ll take the crown.
You got it right!
Before I even watch this I bet the Diesel bet the Subaru.
Yip, I was correct.
Your fuel usage for the RAV was 8.5 litres/hundred. I don’t know what on earth your driving style is, but, I’m tipping you’re pretending you’re Lewis Hamilton because I owned a RAV for 12 months and my average consumption was 4.9. 🤷♂️
I have one big issue with all these suvs.
All of them have way too much technology.
They are over stuffed with unnecessary crap.
No one needs a heated steering wheel or heated seats or most of the other gizmos.
They have all lost what they are meant to do which is be good a being a car! Not a computer on wheels. Also I despair at all car reviewers these days focused on bloody screens. They are all way too distracting & pointless in my view. As a mechanic all of these cars will develop electronic gremlins it’s a fact. they are pain in the rear end to try & fix stupid electronic issues because of all the stupid computer modules. If anyone needs a blind spot monitor or lane keeping assist to help driving then they are a crap driver. No one needs this stupid tech I turn all of these systems off I can’t stand them.
Forester is the one that they mazda beats
Why is there no mg hybrid?
They can’t compare they are so behind the haval h6 that would be no use looking at them
Cx-5 is so small …. Like really small in the backseat
Forget these ancient cars, I just came here to see Richard
Hey guys !!!! The steering wheel is on the passenger side !!! WTF ?????
Chinese car is real 😍 I own a Forthing T5evo (DongFeng) 1.5T 7speeds DCT fuel consumption is very good🔥 I average about 8L/100km. On highway I average about 4-5 L/100km.
rav4.... but you can't buy one now
A tall Mr Bean that could be a Pope… ha ha
H6 DHT is a much better car than RAV4
rav4 come with 18 months waiting time
Meadowbank park :)
I own Mazda CX5 diesel and my advice is: stay away! Those engines are not durable and costly to repair. And Mazda is not helpful either. Check Mazda owners forums for most common issues with those.
Agree Mazda is short at diesel engine.
Not objective
Sponsored by Toyota $$
Forester hybrid is a joke
Haval h6 HEV leads...
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So Toyota payed the wages this month.
Don't worry, they will pay you 2 once you buy the RAV4