Flex Hose Tips - for Venting the Dryer - in HD
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2011
- Two types of flex transition hose to connect the dryer to the wall outlet. This video discusses the pros and cons of each and demonstrates tricks or tips to best secure the flex hose. Safe Dryer Venting. Protect your home from a dryer fire. Make your laundry room feel bigger.
New for 2012 is this pretty impressive DryerFlex product. See it at www.dryerflex.com
My lengthy reply to the comment from mid 2012.
The connection between the dryer and the wall outlet in the majority of cases, if not 90% of them, requires some sort of expandable and flexible hose, so that a person can make the positive connection to each outlet. In cases where the dryer can be located far enough away from the wall to allow access to make those two positive connections with hard pipe, then I agree, rigid or hard pipe is the best.
A point you hinted around was that screws and tape should be used at each joint or connection. Both the International Building Code and the Uniform Building Code explicitly point out that any sort of penetration (screw) is forbidden. The most popular and dependable mechanism to tighten the flex hose around the rigid pipe is the worm drive hose clamp.
The wire bound foil flex is very easy to work with and has impressive stretch to compressed ratio but since the foil material collapses or folds within the opening, the 4 inch space shrinks to a very abrasive 3 ¼" opening, increasing the airflow friction and therefore a poor choice when considering efficiency.
The aluminum flex or semi rigid flex, which is often specified in the dryer manufacturers' installation manual due to its fire retardant capabilities is much more difficult to work with, exhibits very poor stretch to compression ratio and just meets the testing standards set forth in the International Building Code dealing with its puncture and deforming characteristics. The value in using this flex is that the inside dimension of 4" is never compromised and the smooth interior surfaces provide little friction and therefore a smart efficiency choice.
What I have discovered is a brand new and very impressive hybrid flex that combines the ease of use and flexibility of the wire-bound foil flex with the fire resistance and airflow efficiency of semi-rigid aluminum flex. And this is the only flexible duct on the market that has a zero flame spread and zero smoke development rating and that meets the International Residential & Mechanical Codes M1502 and 504 to be specific which require meeting the UL2158A standard.
Let's revisit the deformation and puncture issues that the code references. When I applied equal pressure to the three types of flex, I noted how well the DryerFlex recovered from the effort to deform it. The aluminum flex easily deformed and did not rebound.
For whatever it is worth, there are hundreds of national and independent duct cleaning firms that have switched 100% to the DryerFlex product. Yeah, hard to believe, but once you hold this new Dryer-Flex in your own hand you'll see why. In my honest opinion it is the safest, most efficient and easiest to work with clothes dryer transition duct on the market. I did my own fire test, and it is installed in my house. Thanks again for the comment. 
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I wish I saw this before spending an hour fighting with the aluminum flex.... Seems like it would make sense to make theses slightly larger than 4inches
You and me both !!!
I totally agree
Yes, I do too
Omg i struggled the same way!!!!!!!
That’s what I’m doing right now
Rolling the end of the flex hose can make a difference. That made me smile as I thought, "pfft, nobody got time for dat". After ten hours and 4 trips to the parts store and feeling totally inept at this point, I said, "OK where's my magic pipe". I rolled both ends about 3 links from the tip and "lawd have mercy", it walked right on. I'm still almost laughing out loud as I can't believe it worked. Thank you SOOOO much for that simple, free, and most helpful tip. I am forever indebted lol....Jim B. of Fuquay
Omg, no joke!! This was me too! I’ve been struggling with my semi rigid duct for two days and I finally rolled the ends - it just slipped onto the dryer! Thank you sooo much!!
@@monicasatx Hooray for Monica!!! Isn't it just simply amazing how such a silly little thing can bring instant gratification! Glad your dryer is once again purring.
I had the foil duct from the dryer to the wall. I thought it was kind of unsafe so I bought the semi-rigid duct. I rolled the duct on the inside, tried cutting little slits in the edges. Never got it on. Went back to the foil duct.
Anybody else trying to be an adult? Lmaoo
Me!!!
Yeah, installing these things is harder than it looks, especially if you've never done it before. Don't know what I'd do if it weren't for guys like yourself posting helpful videos. Thanks.
No NO NO!!!!!! It has flex and crushes and starts fires. This guy is a hack!!! Use 4" round hard pipe only!!!!
The dryer washer installation person was supposed to be the expert but he told me you need an adapter and left the installation incomplete. I checked all major home improvement stores but didn't find any round to oval adapter. Your tip is absolutely what I was looking for. Thank you.
Excellent video. Saved me a bunch of hassle. The apartment maintenance guy had no clue. He actually used electric tape to try and seal the hose to the wall side. The hose wouldn't fit into the oval shaped wall outlet, but after I saw this video, I knew exactly how it had to be done. Thanks much for putting this very useful video online.
This video really helped. Got a new dryer yesterday from Sears. They required the semi-rigid hose to be purchased with the dryer for them to install it. They didn't cut the duct at all and it was long with about 4 bends in it bunched up behind the wall and dryer. I tried last night to redo it shorter. That didn't work and the duct got crunched. I tried again today and got it right after watching your video and using your tips. I feel much safer now running the dryer with the duct is installed correctly. If anyone who is reading this and has a laundry area like mine with not much space, or a dryer box, don't try to push the dryer back flush to the wall. Let it stick out some if that means the duct won't get bent or crushed.
No NO NO!!!!!! It has flex and crushes and starts fires. This guy is a hack!!! Use 4" round hard pipe only!!!!
@@johnshoemaker9380 Can you please do a video explaining how to install the 4" round hard pipe for the dryer?
Rolling the end was such a great tip!
This pro tip just saved my life. Rolling and flattening the end before trying to attach it 👌👌👌 can't even believe how much of a difference such a small thing made
Very helpful, thank you. Best thing about this particular video is you can watch it at 2x speed and still get all the info!
Great video. I appreciate the tips and tricks and your video came through clutch for installing a dryer vent hose as it was my first time and I was a bit overwhelmed. But after your video I was able to install with ease. 10/10.
Thank you! I was stuggling, but your video helped me. Bless you!
Thank you! Had trouble getting semi-rigid duct over vent end in a hard to reach area. Thanks for the rolling the inside and clipping end! Wish I would have checked before spending 45 minutes struggling! Took 3 minutes after your tips!!! Thanks again!
Me too! :)
its the wrong way !!
Thank you so so much, I just had the dryer guys deliver the dryer and they said I had to buy an adaptor for it and I didn’t even understand what the heck they were talking about ❤❤❤
Great video. It completely resolved the installation challenges I encountered. I particularly thought the notch technique to secure the hose was quite brilliant.
I'll try the notching.
This rolling pin tip was super helpful. I recently bought an aluminium flex duct pipe for my kitchen hood installation and noticed even though it has the diameter as per the hood's manual, it was still too tight to fit. I was looking for a solution to expand the pipe slightly. Thank you.
Finally, a video that helped me install my dryer hose.
Thanks for the tip on cutting the hose to fit!! Very helpful video!
Thank you you’re really hoping to install my dryer by myself. Very proud moment.
Great tricks; just what I was looking for.
Excellent video! For lack of room behind dryer I'm going to install the MagVent MV-180 Magnetic Dryer Vent Coupling. Hose hooks up with magnets.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this trick! Worked like a charm.
So glad to find your video... answered every question about the rigid hose. Thanks🏆
I use gloves, because I cut both tendons and a nerve from steel wool on my finger, while in the Navy. This does have wire when you cut into it. Your video helped. However, I didn't crimp it right😳, because it kept tearing the rigid hose. I turned it around to use the torn part on the dryer, after cutting off the torn part. Other than that, Excellent help!🏆🥳💃🏾🤗 Because my finger is messed up, I used the clamp to tighten the rigid shaft to make a little smaller, then I found twisting the Rigid Flex Hose on helped a bit. Definitely saved by your video.🏆🥳
No NO NO!!!!!! It has flex and crushes and starts fires. This guy is a hack!!! Use 4" round hard pipe only!!!!
@@johnshoemaker9380 I used the other kind... I saw that the soft one catches fire. Thanks for the warning. See my channel, I added a space saver. Again, thanks.🏆
@@johnshoemaker9380 I used... Aluminum Semi-rigid Flexible Duct
Thank you! Your video was helpful, straight forward and easy to use.
Very helpful-- thank you!! I was getting frustrated with the rigid hose slipping off and thought I was doing something wrong... Now I will try making a couple small hooks to prevent that!! :)
No NO NO!!!!!! It has flex and crushes and starts fires. This guy is a hack!!! Use 4" round hard pipe only!!!!
@@johnshoemaker9380 You're thinking of the cheap junk. He's using semi-rigid flex. It's good stuff. This guy knows what he's doing.
Do not listen to this guy he has no clue what he's doing period this stuff may look nice to start with but I've seen hundreds of them that have crushed and have started dryers and houses on fire this is what we call lazy installation because he does not know how to fabricate metal piping period go to a professional not a RUclips idiot
great job BY flattening some of the ridges SO the clamp holds nicely...thank you
I wish I'd seen this earlier! I ruined two semi-rigid vent hoses trying (unsuccessfully) to get them connected at the dryer and at the outside vent. This methos makes sense and I am going to buy yet another rigid hose and try again!
this is the tips i have been looking for, thanks..Took less than 5 minutes after messing with it for days
Wow, so I'm not the only one going bald because of this. Good to know.
As always, I appreciate the time and effort you put forth in your comment. I am not pulling your leg, but dryer venting is my absolute interest and it’s been my sole occupation for over 15 years, and I would like to discuss your comment.
My response turned out to be too lengthy for a reply so I added it to the “description” in the hopes you or others can benefit from it.
Aluma flex is allowed other than rigid.....no other flex is allowed....period.....i can poke a finger threw most others....tape all seems and joints including the gores on 90's ....could be a gas dryer.....and never ever screw a joint.....only tape.....
Thank you so much for this video !
Great video, just what I was looking for.
I'm not even fitting a dryer vent hose but this was still so clear, helpful, and informative ! Haha 🍔
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I got a great idea! Why don't the manufacturers make the flex hose the appropriate size to slide on properly without all the hassle?
Very helpful. Flattening the ends by rolling with pvc pipe is a great tip.
its a good tip but its going the WRONG way - against the air flow= major lint problems quickly! 30 yrs a duct guy!
For my home, I have fallen in love with the ventless, heat pump dryer. Best appliance purchase I have ever made. It's not for everyone, but I wish more people knew about them.
I was screaming ventless next time the whole dam time behind the dryer lol
**HUGE** Thank yous!!! I took a break from wrestling with the #$#%@ dryer vent hose and looked up some tips and found your video! Fixed it within ten minutes.
Thank you! BEST. VIDEO. EVER. (And I watched them all lol)
great idea about flattening the end many thanks
Thank you! I was able to connect oval to round.
Thank you so much. This video solved my issue immediately!
Thanks! Very helpful! I'm single, and I hate to have to call the ex or the property manager for every little thing--I like learning how to do things like this myself.
this guy is COMPLETELY WRONG! the 5" oval to 4" round fittings ARE available. even so you could get 5" oval to round & get a 5 to 4 reducer & continue- the duct MUST NOT be obstructed the way hes telling you ! i own / operate a sheet metal company for 30 yrs!
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You can always call the ex over for other reasons!! FWB!!
"Call the ex?" I'm confused. Why would the ex even pick up the phone?
@@weekendwarrior3420 We had a pretty amicable divorce. Not perfect, but not ugly either.
@@WileyGrrl If you are both still single, what was the point of doing the divorce paperwork? I assumed your ex, being busy with his new woman, would have no time for your service calls :-)
Cool!! That worked PERFECT!!! Thank you!!!!
I'm so glad they make the things barely f'n fit!
yes seems like one too many times folks engineering these things have mental retardation issues
Thanks! Great tips.
What a great explanation!!
This is perfect! Thank you!!
The amount of time I wasted yesterday on installing one of these was ridiculous. Very surprised engineers have not considered the thought of offset ID’s. Tubes should be 1/8” larger ID without the need for these hacks.
Best tip put the lint holding junk over sold metal vent pipe ! Works great to ensure seems are sealed .
Pointing out that you need to squeeze the aluminum foil to the vent so it doesn't fall off saved me lol. I would put it on and it would just slide right off every time. Once I fitted it to the vent, it stayed. Thank you!
Great tips! Thanks!
Very helpful!
Thanks a lot! I installed dryer, and aluminum sleeve felt down.
Just a note on that cheap foil flex stuff. If you actually follow the instructions, they tell you to stretch it all they way out and cut to length. As with most things, tho, people don't follow directions, create hazards, and now it's the products fault that people can't follow directions or safely maintain their equipment.
Thank you . Very useful
I liked the idea of rolling the first two inches of the ends to flatten the pipe. I take mine off at least yearly to clean and inspect as well as vacuuming out the dryer itself, so it'll make it easier to fight it back into place... good trick! One reminder, try to keep your piping runs as short as you can, as straight as you can, as every turn or bend adds restriction. Check your through wall vent when the dryer is on and make sure you have good air flow. If not a good forceful air flow, it's time to clean the entire line.
Mike, you wrote a great comment here. Thank you!
@@HNewnan Some of my own practices that I use personally are based on what I saw in 25 years in the fire service. Dryer fires are more frequent than most realize and all are based on human error in installation, maintenance or ignorance. Fire safety begins in the home.
Using rigid pipe to connect the wall outlet to the dryer creates a hardship in securing the connection, as there would be no to minimal room to get access the connection and then to use a tool to tighten the two clamps. Flex transition hoses allow the appliance to be moved out far enough to securely fasten the two ends, then as the dryer is moved back, the hose recoils.
I agree with Shack's comment below, the use of screws is disallowed in the building code and the manufactures user guide.
Great video.
Yes this is a antiquated system and the frustration is real. Millions of these issues. Semi rigid pipe is the correct material, but it is easy to pull apart, tears easy and is full pipe size. How do we make this work easy?
I have added a Dryer Box 350 for a 4" wall and installed a pipe through the oval opening. Awesome... but the semi ridged flex does not like to go on as both are full pipe size. You need a male end and not raw pipe here. I found a male to male 4" flex coupling that is about 6" long. This inserts into the oval pipe coming into the box and on the other end the semi ridgid flex pipe slides right over. I use heavy duty duct tape over the flex and rigid pipe so it is sealed and won't slip, then I add a screw clamp.
For the bottom connection, a 4" adjustable elbow is the cats meow. The male end of the elbow slides into the flex, again duct tape and clamp. The female end slides over the vent pipe of the dryer. No need for a clamp here as when the dryer is slid back into position it is trapped and can't slide off.
Service work is easy, remove the dryer and the connection stays with the wall. Reinstall the dryer and slide the elbow back on. No hassle. Want to replace the dryer later with a new one? Easy as well.
Using Tin snips in 2 -3 cuts then taped worked great
A nut driver is easier to use to cinch up a hose clamp, rather than a flat head screwdriver. I like the 4 in 1 screwdrivers for this reason, they can double as a nut driver for many applications.
Wonder if you can use plyers to create a bump near the end of pipe rather than that hook on the edge, which seems like it might make getting hose on and maybe cut a hole in flex. Hard to describe but basically twist plyer handles toward center of piope rather than outside. Haven't tried this yet so may be really hard to do, but just thinking as I watch video. Thanks for making this either way!
You saved another person twelve years later
I agree with you, except where you say to screw the joints. BAD BAD IDEA, unless you meant to say hose clamp. You NEVER want to use screws or rivets to attach duct sections. They stick out into the air stream inside of the vent, and collect dust and lint very quickly which can be a fire hazard. Hose clamps and metal tape are a great idea. Screws and rivets are not. Just wanted to clarify for anyone reading this.
For dryers... For fan exhausts, screws are fine, yea?
Thank you.
We sent a satellite 30 years back that is now sending space images to us and this is 2023 and we don’t have a pipe solution for the vent?long live the enterprise
Thanks for video,ill be fixing my dryer tomorrow-Is this still appropriate and relevant in 2022?
How much distance between opening the hot air out of the device and outside the house 5 meters
Does it affect the length of the distance?
Is there any reason why you need the flex hose so long? Can you cut the hose to go directly from the dryer to the exhaust pipe?
Thank you!
Wow! Thanks!!!
Interesting what I just learned today....
Ravi Peiris M.D.
I wish I knew about this video before I did mine.
Also, there IS an adaptor from circular to oval, I just seen it at Lowe's last night.
Yeah but it doesn’t fit the outlet
I just replaced plastic or vinyl hose with the ridged aluminum type. It did not go as smoothly as in the video. I cut the hose so that the dryer would be 5.25 inches from the wall like my mom wanted, but it was easy to install such a short hose and it needed to bend several inches from the current dryer to where the hole was. I think the more flexible collapsable hose would have been much easier to install in my case. There was no dryer box at all, just a pipe going outside.
can you tell me why the dryer box is important? new to all this and I want to install a new dryer vent. currently have the white vinyl hose
+Jenn old comment, I know, that box just makes it harder to smash the hose against the wall, which would create a flow restriction and potential fire risk. Just from using a dryer and bumping into it, one can gradually keep pushing it toward the wall and not notice. There is also some company that makes a cheap plastic elbow that goes on the back of your dryer and keeps it properly spaced from the wall.
Do you do the same thing if you are just hooking to a vent to the outside. NO BOX
Thank you!!! I was struggling attaching the hose to the dryer. Worked like a charm. How come nobody else suggested this.
because its WRONG, they make a twist fitting for EXACTLY that reason, airflow MUST go into it or you will have lint problems! any sheet metal supply house has th proper fittings & people you could call, but they will tell you how if they arent to busy or lazy!! the tin man
I wonder if you can use silicone grease so things fit together better?? And-MY inherited house had vinyl tubing-(*%@!! I was smelling detergent and dryer sheets in the house-looked up and figured out why-it was deteriorated(!)
We are searching this type of pipes for a long time. Where can I get ... Please information
Nice video. Thanks where can I buy that wall box? That is sweet. My dryer vent is sticking out on the right and my dryer has the whole on the left. Big curve stinks.
any sheet metal supply house or lowes , or online= $ 50,00
is the model number anywhere visible on the box?
Jiggles is a cute name for the metal flex duct hose. It jiggles and wiggles.
I just installed the Inovate DryerFlex that I purchased from Amazon. I used an actual wooden rolling pin to straighten the ends which indeed helped. I did NOT make the cuts in the ends as recommended here, as the DryerFlex is just aluminum foil covering a coiled galvanized wire; cutting through the wire in the ends would have left only the foil keeping the ends attached and would have greatly weakened the connections.
Wow thanks for this. We have the white one....it popped off...we reattached it with ducktape as a temp fix so I come here to figure out how to install it....now I know to get one of these.
My hose is the exact same size as my 4 in pipe leading outside is a pcv pipe...cannot get it hooked up...do they make a 5 in diameter hose?
Myst
My building dryer is on the bottom and is essentially a straight shot out from my dryer. I got a new washer and dryer and the problem is they installed the washer first and had no space to use shorter dryer duct and instead made an "S" shape that goes up and then down. I am thinking that is not going to be good long term. I guess you get what you pay for since the install was free. Now I got to figure out how to get a small duct in there that does straight out. The previous dryer had it but the installers are instructed not to used any old parts.
I agree 100% with you on the numb nuts at those box stores, they are useless !!!!!!
THSNK YOU! I’ve never felt more defeated by a stupid appliance than trying to fit this aluminum flex over that oval duct.
Help me please I'm trying to shorten this flex hose and tin snips won't cut the wire! I'm gonna cry
Thanks for the comment Cont1.
We recently introduced a much better Clothes Dryer Transition Duct - DryerFlex combines the ease of use and flexibility of foil flex with the fire resistance, strength and airflow efficiency of semi-rigid aluminum flex.
It is 100% UL2158A Listed and makes Connecting the Dryer Much Simpler, Helps Protect Against Dangerous Kinks, and Resists Flame Spread & is Airflow Efficient.
Watch the video on this product. Search for or click the DryerFlex tag.
My coil hose fell out on its own during use, made a huge mess of lint flying everywhere in the laundry room. Now, I can’t reattach the coil hose back, it won’t fit.
Can I really cut some slits like your video to make it fit again?
Did you figure it out ? Lol
like you would grab a hamburger hahahaaa thats the most brilliant analogy :D I laughed so much.
Great video thou
I need to run the vent about 14 feet. I just bought a house and they have the vent going to the garage. Do they sell the semi rigid that length?
You will need to buy two 8 foot lengths.
I didn't really have issues getting the hose onto the annoying oval pipe. Didn't have to cut or make any adjustments to the vent hose. I did however have to rig a clamp as the round clamp would not bend or open enough to apply it. It came with the vent tension clamp. The flexible hose fit snug and didn't budge when I tugged on it however it didn't have a complete seal as it's round and the wall pipe is oval so I just used zip ties til I can get aluminum tape. Personally if a complex is going to do something like this they should provide any adapters or provisions needed to make it easier on our budget because the tenant did not request nor was informed of this issue
I laughed nervously when I was the white nylon hose being said as the hose not to use. I am replacing that hose now after 12 years of having it and I bought my house brand new in 2011.
I agree with the last comment. Same problem. How does one attach the hose to the dryer? It keeps blowing out.
A large hamburger is all I heard
dbvball hahaha is that not what he said? I wasn’t getting the reference
I heard it too.
But it took reading your comment for me to think..wait what. ...... lol.....🍔
OMG ME TOO!! hahaha
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lol - your right - he does NOT do this for a living!
How much do you charge to clean my dryer vent.
So how do you put a 4" hose around a 4" pipe.... There doesn't seem to be a 4 1/2 hose
Super bee they make a double adapter to connect the two pieces
All the dryers in the world, can't somebody make an easy connect dryer vent. What a pain in the A$$.