I like how they installed a custom gaming PC for Short Circuit just to use as a backdrop. And then when Adam asks if there's a gaming PC around he's told no.
I’ve been using a set of PC360’s for about 10 years, just recently replaced with HD6xx’s. The PC360/38X are worth the price if you can get them on sale. Nowadays the space has gotten competitive enough that they aren’t worth the $250 I paid for them a decade ago. Solid, no frills headset. They just work.
@@eldukedrino not necessarily, their car speaker testing had gone through labs, as well as monitors and other peripherals, and those have all been Short Circuit videos
@@eldukedrino Basically, Labs on main channel is for GPU, CPU and displays. Labs on SC is for keyboard and mice and headphones. They will also upload their findings to a separate LTT Labs website when that’s set up, so that you can compare similar products or products that you’re comparing. Point of Labs isn’t just for full reviews on LTT but to use for all channels and as a huge repository of data and analytics for hardware and peripherals. Kind of like RTINGS, but they aim to be better and even if they aren’t it just gives us, the consumers, multiple sources of credible data to make the best purchasing decisions.
TRS is: tip ring sleeve (the connection points/ plating) on the connector Both the 2.5mm and 3.5mm (1/8") are trrs/trs So a) the 2.5 is a trrs b) you can have ts/trs/trrs flavors of 2.5/3.5/7mm etc
They're not a Sennheiser subsidiary, they're owned by Demant, who also own the audio hardware rights to Sennheiser - I spoke to them (Sennheiser) at length about this at CES.
Sennheiser has always had extremely good mic quality for their headsets. I don't know how they do it and why other companies are still struggling to keep up with them, but I'd always recommend a Sennheiser if people want just an all in 1 headset on a budget (363D was my go to and I used to find it for $70-$80 back in 2015 so I'm sure it's cheaper now!).
I replaced my aging Corsair headset with a H3 Hybrid last week solely on the fact Senheiser was behind it Seeing it in a collab with Massdrop really comfort me in my choice
I have the H3s , got them for 40$ and they are great for the price. Yes, you can hear the cable when it slides across your clothes, but i hear it only when theres no sound coming from the headphones. The mic sounds great! They dont make my ears hurt or my neck, while playing for 4 hours straight. They are not loud, which i dont like, i need more volume! But overall i like them for the price i paid!
Sennheisers were always my go to for headsets (before I switched to an amp/dac, good headphones, and good condenser mic) and I was always impressed by the mic quality and sound stage of them. Like they're not as good as say spending $400 on a "decent" setup, but for how much they did cost (I used to go ONLY for the 363D, which were about $75 on sale, because the 373D had a worse mic quality but still good soundstage) they were an easy "budget" pick for years. I'm not surprised Drop has made them slightly cheaper and they still keep the same quality considering Sennheiser has been around for so long now that just taking their design and hardware and just cutting some of the cost off of it would keep the same quality sound and microphone.
I really really really want them to review the head amame headphones it is a 3d printable housing for speaker drivers that you build yourself. The parts and files are found as a kit on vector finesse's website, every review I have seen says they sound better than nearly any other headphone because it uses speakers that are found in extremely high end headphones but buying the speakers alone costs significantly less, the entire headphones themselves only cost a little over 100 dollars including the speakers, pads, head strap, printer filament. It's really amazing, if you don't have a printer you can buy it from vector finesse as a prebuilt. What vector finesse is doing is really great for right to repair and giving us fair prices.
As far as I know, the quality of EPOS tanked since Sennheiser spun it off(sold it?). They kept the same names, but the quality took a noticeable hit...
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These cost 140 usd when buying in the EU (19 usd shipping , 21% tax, 19 eur import handling ). Kinda prices themselves out of competition again in this market.
In context , that's the same price as the epos game one / 601 / 602. Every other epos is (way) cheaper , even the popular h3 hybrid sits around the 100 eur mark
I have been using the Epos H6Pro daily for more than a year and they look and feel like brand new, yes, even the earcups still look flawless. The build quality, the audio quality and mic quality are fantastic.The headband isn't the most comfortable but i have long dense hair so that helps. These H3X look like just a cheaper version of that without the removable mic feature which not everyone needs.
Honestly with the H6Pro I’ve probably removed the boom mic a single digit number of times deliberately and had it get knocked of accidentally about 5x that number.
I have the h6 pro open backs and I shave my head and they are more comfortable than a lot of other headsets I have used. I use the mic when gaming on console and take it off when on pc. The ear cups are bigger than the game one from sennheiser, and the Soundstage is good for fps games.
I have the old sennheiser GSP350s and the PC38X both really good headphones I usually have the best mic in the call or chat and it sounds great. The PC38X is nice because its very neutrally styled so i can use it at work
@@Bosco-nq2kk personally the GSPs aren’t tight and the 38x is a little tighter so it might be tighter on you however it’s open back so it doesn’t feel as claustrophobic
I like how he keeps talking like $80 is just a throw away amount of money. "It's not a great set of headphones, but it's only $80, so what should you really expect?" $80 is still a lot of money for a lot of people.
Audio gear can get much much MUCH more expensive my dude, you simply get what you pay for in this case. Once you know what good audio fidelity is like you cannot go back. But if you want more sound quality for low price there're always IEMs, even the cheap $20 nowadays ones can compete with the old midranges or TOTLs.
Review the Steelseries Nova Pro Wireless. I can't promise that they sound the best because I am not an audiophile, although for my taste they are perfect. But that headset in fulll of features, you can connect so many devices at the same time, and I am not even talking about that multi-point connectivity bullshit. You can actually Listen to sound from two devices at the same time. They even have pretty decent ANC and are overall really an awesome product. Been using them for over a month now, can say totally worth the price.
Just please check other frequency response graphs and you see that it actually goes to 20khz. It's called logarithm scale and it's very basic stuff with these...!
If you read this, i realy realy realy would love you to test my beloved Nacon RIG 800HD wireless gaming headset. Since Homeoffice started 2 years ago, i wear them 14 hours a day (including time for gaming). I love them because i find them super light, super durable, great sound, awesome battery life and overall just a very good product. Would love to hear what you think about these (as i hadn't had any high priced headsets before, my expectations for sound quality may be low).
To me nothing will ever beat the HyperX Cloud Stinger for budget gaming headsets. Great mic quality, good clamping force, and even the wireless version is pretty affordable
For $80 i would stick with the HyperX cloud 2...I have 2 pairs of them for my niece and nephew and they sound great! The mic on them isn't all that good but it works well enough...
Can you guys review the Logitech H390 Wired Headset? It's kind of the 'other direction' from a chonky 'gamer' headset, but I've been told it isn't bad.
In my opinion on gaming headsets the sound quality or accuracy isn't that important. It's more important to be able to hear where a sound is coming from.
I use Epos/Sennheiser GSP300 headset, honestly works fantastic with DTSX, can hear footsteps in games like Battlefield and CoD perfectly, gun shots have that thump to them without drowning out other noises, I have no idea what they'll be like in normal awful stereo since I never use stereo compressed/uncompressed for anything
I'm satisfied with the mic, it sounds really decent, not thrilled about the "farty" sound you're explaining. Because even though i use my headset for 90% gaming, the occasional times i want to listen to music, i really like crisp clear sound. Without hearing it firsthand, headset sound quality reviews are really one of these things that are a "trust me bro" scenario.
this mic is dope, on my shitty laptop speakers I had a hard time even hearing the difference between the studio mic and the one from the headset, very impressive
That looks like the cable for the Sennheiser hd 5xx headphones which is a 2.5mm cable, I just can't tell if this cable has the locking groove around the base of the plug. Not actually an uncommon cable if you're wanting a replacement.
Looks like a decent pair of headphones. I quite like using AKG studio headphones. They have a nice flat response curve, so they're quite true to the sound that was intended, rather than AKG's idea of that sound. Wired only, high inpedence, so they need to be driven by something fairly powerful, but it's so worth it if you have all the parts in place.
That's what I keep telling to people that keep suggesting like used audio gear instead of headphones. The most suggested are the hd560s, they are 150 ohms, if you just plug them in the back of your PC like nothing, you're leaving a lot performance on the table. And not all people will be willing to move from a 80 bucks headset to like, USED Gear + mic + amp
@Thunder Arch you're right about that. For the most part I use the studio headphones through an actual amp, pedal or sound card because, like you say, they can't be driven by a phone or computer to anywhere near their full potential. For everyday earphones I use Sony WF-C500. They're cheap, have good battery life, and decent sound. The don't have ANC or any other fancy features, but at the price point they're pretty much perfect for me. Everything else goes through an AV receiver. That controls my TV, console and laptop. I've also got a little Bluetooth adapter to solve the headphone jack crisis that smartphones are facing these days.
My Logitech G533 wireless/wired headset was $80 years ago, and they are fantastic for under $100 headset. Clearly you don't know what you can get for $80. They even have RGBs!
I had no idea they released a GSX1000 v2. From someone that's used the original GSX1000 for years, the refresh seems... Confusing at best. They really could've done more with it.
Yeah, it looks like it's mostly USB-C, better volume knob, and improved mic audio to 16/48 (thank goodness). USB-C and 16/48 are worthwhile improvements but not enough to really tempt me. Now if they also increased the power output...
Budget doesn't mean bad Drop/massdrop does lol Do you want to wait 1-60 months for a group buy that has all the disadvantages of a small group buy, but without the cost savings? but still a solid shot the product won't arrive in usable condition? Then buy from drop!
0:23 I actually bought these, but the Bluetooth feature broke after only 8 months. It can no longer use Bluetooth, only play extremely loud white noise.
For the asking price I'd probably still go with the HyperX cloud alpha That headset sure might be old at this point but it doesn't disappoint in sound quality or positional awareness
Any chance you guys wana do a follow up on the drop panda headsets? That you guys did a bang up job on recommending only for them being bricked for many owners, international owners were screwed over big time by drop.
Those volume knobs are cheap. Those are exact to the sennheisers from drop. They end up falling off. Also they end up having static when you move the volume. Hey, the mic was good tho. 🤷♂️
I’ve got the H6 Pro with the little CSX300 amp, one of the best sounding headsets I’ve had. And I se Sennheisers Too. Got them on Black Friday for €161,50
I've just bought the Razer Blackshark V2 from Amazon for GB£65 as they were about the best rated headset online from the research I did. They're replacing the Hyperx cloud from 2020 which have been a great set of headphones for PC gaming..
I feel like with gaming gear you should either go for something like $25 or just opt out entirely and get x10 better gear for like x10 the cost ($250). Like you could get an AT2020 mic, Scarlett Solo interface, and some ATH-M20x headphones for that price and it'd sound infinitely better and you'd also sound infinitely better. Could also go the used route which obviously has its own set of good and bad things, the worst of which is that you'd likely be getting the parts from different people and would have to wait way longer whereas what I suggested could be at your house in 2 days.
Why do headphone manufacturers constantly put the cable connection on the left ear, when 90% of PC users have their PC on their right side? My corsair virtuoso's are guilty of this too.
Why would 90% of users have their PC on their right side? If you're right handed so have a mouse pad on the right and have your PC on a desk it seems likely you'd have it on the left. I do.
I wouldnt say these are budget, this is about the price range you should be paying for an accessory that will likely ware out in under 2 years with regular use.
The Drop x THX Panda headphones were such a massive disappointment. They didn’t deliver what was initially promised and then pretty quickly abandoned it after release. Their response to issues throughout the entire process was pretty bad. That experience gave me trust issues with Drop being able to support their own products. The Panda headphones could have been really great. They sound really good…when they work, and you get the tuning right. Maybe for $80 these might be worth taking the risk. But there’s a lot of competition at this price point under well known brands that are more likely to be reliable and you might be able to get some kind of support if needed. Steelseries and Logitech come to mind. Logitech has wireless headset for around $40, I think, that will get most people by just fine.
Drop collabing is essentially just a distribution deal. It's actually crazy to me how much effort they make to help customer complaints (though, granted some of the manufacturers have non existent support in NA). You just go to THX as if you had any other of their products. This is just a place to get a special price.
@@SquintyGears For the collabs and the products they design, this is absolutely not true. Drop does have regular distribution deals on a lot of products. But even as noted in this video, this collab is a different product than what EPOS offers. So the price isn't reduced just because of distribution, it's reduced because something was done to make this a Drop branded product. And Drop absolutely fronts support for these. THX didn't design the Panda headphones, nor the DAC/AMP Drop sells. THX is just a prominent feature of the hardware. Drop was on the line for support for the Panda headphones. And Drop, well, dropped the ball on it really badly. There was yet another company involved in finishing the firmware, which was probably the source of the biggest issues. If I went to THX to try to get support, they'd tell me to go somewhere else.
If these are anything like the PC37X, they are going to be trash. I returned those and got a pair of Steelseries Arctis 7P on BF for $80! They're much better!
I maintain that the Massdrop to Drop rebranding was one of the worst moves ever by a small org that had just made a name for itself The fact that LTT/short circuit still points this out every time they feature a product from Drop is all the evidence necessary
Pretty curious to know what kind of issues you have with wireless headphones at your desk I've been using wireless for about a year now, a cloud fight S, and ONCE have i had to unplug/replug the dongle, that was the only issue ever (dongle simply disconnected), few months ago. and i'm a 10+ hrs use per day every day type of user. Again, just curious :D
Drop really need to look into a EU distributor - they sell a lot of products people I know want, but have no way of getting (short of extortionate shipping & customs feees).
Just for your renaming of videos people: I saw this vid with the old name, something in the line of "budget does not mean bad", and just remembered it, that I wanted to watch that video! Now it's renamed.
I like how they installed a custom gaming PC for Short Circuit just to use as a backdrop. And then when Adam asks if there's a gaming PC around he's told no.
That's such a RUclips moment
Better than the previous backdrop gaming PC, which was a one-of-a-kind work of art from Nerdforge which they yeeted boxes at.
@@treeza1891 That said, Adam's in-depth review is pretty RUclips as well
I think this comment was used to enable the segue, not as an actual question.
@@Rroven Considering that he was playing on a laptop afterward, I can only conclude that this was not just a segue LOL
mic quality is so good for an 80$ headphones way better than the more expensive ones i know
I'm glad I splurged a bit more for the PC38X headphones, but I'm glad to see a Drop x EPOS collab in the budget segment.
This looks like it took some of those good PC360/GAME/PC3*X features and brought them into the budget segment. I approve.
How is the PC38X? Is it a good buy?
@@J3nLai there is an extreme amount of reviews praising it
@@FORTYK_ will look it up, thanks for the reply!
I’ve been using a set of PC360’s for about 10 years, just recently replaced with HD6xx’s. The PC360/38X are worth the price if you can get them on sale. Nowadays the space has gotten competitive enough that they aren’t worth the $250 I paid for them a decade ago. Solid, no frills headset. They just work.
As always, great video, but it would've been interesting to see a comparison between the manufatuerers frequency response graph and the 'actual' one!
ltt labs?
yeah why didn't these go through labs first?
@@ShravanParthasarathy because this is short circuit not LTT
@@eldukedrino not necessarily, their car speaker testing had gone through labs, as well as monitors and other peripherals, and those have all been Short Circuit videos
@@eldukedrino Basically, Labs on main channel is for GPU, CPU and displays. Labs on SC is for keyboard and mice and headphones. They will also upload their findings to a separate LTT Labs website when that’s set up, so that you can compare similar products or products that you’re comparing. Point of Labs isn’t just for full reviews on LTT but to use for all channels and as a huge repository of data and analytics for hardware and peripherals. Kind of like RTINGS, but they aim to be better and even if they aren’t it just gives us, the consumers, multiple sources of credible data to make the best purchasing decisions.
TRS is: tip ring sleeve (the connection points/ plating) on the connector
Both the 2.5mm and 3.5mm (1/8") are trrs/trs
So a) the 2.5 is a trrs b) you can have ts/trs/trrs flavors of 2.5/3.5/7mm etc
They're not a Sennheiser subsidiary, they're owned by Demant, who also own the audio hardware rights to Sennheiser - I spoke to them (Sennheiser) at length about this at CES.
Interesting. Not difficult to understand the confusion then lol.
@@RyTrapp0 Aye, no doubt, and it was literally called EPOS | Sennheiser for a few years
The mic in that thing sounds really good. I was confused whether or not it was the actual shotgun mic or the headset mic
Sennheiser has always had extremely good mic quality for their headsets. I don't know how they do it and why other companies are still struggling to keep up with them, but I'd always recommend a Sennheiser if people want just an all in 1 headset on a budget (363D was my go to and I used to find it for $70-$80 back in 2015 so I'm sure it's cheaper now!).
Ya, super impressive for that thing
Listening to it with headphones, I could clearly tell the difference, but it's still pretty damn good.
@@blindfire3167 facts i rock pc38x the mic is godly, this h3x comes close for almost half off
That mic sounds INSANELY GOOD for $80!!! I've seriously heard $300 headsets that dont even sound half as good. WOW!
Cooler Master MH650 has lower price and better microphone.
Those mics are usually very good from Epos/Sennheiser, and are often considered broadcast quality as far as how headsets go.
That microphone is pretty damn good for the price point.
Granted, these are under $100. But Alex continues to be on the money: Don’t buy gaming auto gear, get used music audio gear.
Nothing beats the convenience of having a headset though. Sure proper audio gear sounds better, but it's definitely more cumbersome
@@bottomtext5872 pc38x if you genuinely NEED a mic, otherwise a hd560s
@@lain2236ad Imma keep it real with you, those are both +$150USD headphones, the H3X are $80.
Gaming auto gear is the new Sony car
@@bottomtext5872
Used tho?
The microphone is really good. I have mid-tier headphones and the sound was almost identical to the shotgun mic which is very impressive.
tf?! the mic quality is awesome
I replaced my aging Corsair headset with a H3 Hybrid last week solely on the fact Senheiser was behind it
Seeing it in a collab with Massdrop really comfort me in my choice
I have the H3s , got them for 40$ and they are great for the price. Yes, you can hear the cable when it slides across your clothes, but i hear it only when theres no sound coming from the headphones.
The mic sounds great!
They dont make my ears hurt or my neck, while playing for 4 hours straight.
They are not loud, which i dont like, i need more volume!
But overall i like them for the price i paid!
If you can't get enough volume from your audio jack, it might make sense to buy a separate headphone amp for additional volume.
Sennheisers were always my go to for headsets (before I switched to an amp/dac, good headphones, and good condenser mic) and I was always impressed by the mic quality and sound stage of them. Like they're not as good as say spending $400 on a "decent" setup, but for how much they did cost (I used to go ONLY for the 363D, which were about $75 on sale, because the 373D had a worse mic quality but still good soundstage) they were an easy "budget" pick for years. I'm not surprised Drop has made them slightly cheaper and they still keep the same quality considering Sennheiser has been around for so long now that just taking their design and hardware and just cutting some of the cost off of it would keep the same quality sound and microphone.
Would be awesome if you could review the Audeze Maxwell soon! Seems like this could be a real gamechanger if they hold their promises.
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I really really really want them to review the head amame headphones it is a 3d printable housing for speaker drivers that you build yourself. The parts and files are found as a kit on vector finesse's website, every review I have seen says they sound better than nearly any other headphone because it uses speakers that are found in extremely high end headphones but buying the speakers alone costs significantly less, the entire headphones themselves only cost a little over 100 dollars including the speakers, pads, head strap, printer filament. It's really amazing, if you don't have a printer you can buy it from vector finesse as a prebuilt.
What vector finesse is doing is really great for right to repair and giving us fair prices.
As far as I know, the quality of EPOS tanked since Sennheiser spun it off(sold it?).
They kept the same names, but the quality took a noticeable hit...
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I got these recently for $49 and I'm not disappointed at all. I love these especially at that ~$50 price range.
These cost 140 usd when buying in the EU (19 usd shipping , 21% tax, 19 eur import handling ).
Kinda prices themselves out of competition again in this market.
In context , that's the same price as the epos game one / 601 / 602. Every other epos is (way) cheaper , even the popular h3 hybrid sits around the 100 eur mark
Well, yeah, you're importing. That's always going to be expensive.
I'd recommend the drop x epos pc38x instead, they have great soundstage and are still pretty much affordable
not very comfortable though
@@AnDr3w066 I think they feel cheap, but I like wearing them
Same here and got them for only $133 👍
I have been using the Epos H6Pro daily for more than a year and they look and feel like brand new, yes, even the earcups still look flawless. The build quality, the audio quality and mic quality are fantastic.The headband isn't the most comfortable but i have long dense hair so that helps.
These H3X look like just a cheaper version of that without the removable mic feature which not everyone needs.
Honestly with the H6Pro I’ve probably removed the boom mic a single digit number of times deliberately and had it get knocked of accidentally about 5x that number.
I have the h6 pro open backs and I shave my head and they are more comfortable than a lot of other headsets I have used. I use the mic when gaming on console and take it off when on pc. The ear cups are bigger than the game one from sennheiser, and the Soundstage is good for fps games.
I have the old sennheiser GSP350s and the PC38X both really good headphones I usually have the best mic in the call or chat and it sounds great. The PC38X is nice because its very neutrally styled so i can use it at work
@@Bosco-nq2kk personally the GSPs aren’t tight and the 38x is a little tighter so it might be tighter on you however it’s open back so it doesn’t feel as claustrophobic
I like how he keeps talking like $80 is just a throw away amount of money. "It's not a great set of headphones, but it's only $80, so what should you really expect?" $80 is still a lot of money for a lot of people.
Audio gear can get much much MUCH more expensive my dude, you simply get what you pay for in this case. Once you know what good audio fidelity is like you cannot go back.
But if you want more sound quality for low price there're always IEMs, even the cheap $20 nowadays ones can compete with the old midranges or TOTLs.
Review the Steelseries Nova Pro Wireless. I can't promise that they sound the best because I am not an audiophile, although for my taste they are perfect. But that headset in fulll of features, you can connect so many devices at the same time, and I am not even talking about that multi-point connectivity bullshit. You can actually Listen to sound from two devices at the same time. They even have pretty decent ANC and are overall really an awesome product. Been using them for over a month now, can say totally worth the price.
Just please check other frequency response graphs and you see that it actually goes to 20khz. It's called logarithm scale and it's very basic stuff with these...!
Woah the mic is actually great
I wish the cable management for the desk in the background was better.
Massdrop was awesome. Shame it went away. The mic actually sounds pretty damn solid for the price.
what do you mean it went away? i thought it was just a name change or was it more substantial?
@@gaugea Massdrop name changing into Drop as they dropped most of their previous catalog of items down to only keyboard and audio stuff.
If you read this, i realy realy realy would love you to test my beloved Nacon RIG 800HD wireless gaming headset. Since Homeoffice started 2 years ago, i wear them 14 hours a day (including time for gaming). I love them because i find them super light, super durable, great sound, awesome battery life and overall just a very good product. Would love to hear what you think about these (as i hadn't had any high priced headsets before, my expectations for sound quality may be low).
To me nothing will ever beat the HyperX Cloud Stinger for budget gaming headsets. Great mic quality, good clamping force, and even the wireless version is pretty affordable
For $80 i would stick with the HyperX cloud 2...I have 2 pairs of them for my niece and nephew and they sound great! The mic on them isn't all that good but it works well enough...
The mics quality is good, it a sounds a little high pitched though. But that can be adjusted with software
For additional perspective, why don't you try the Razer Blackshark, since they're at a similar price range!
I got mine at like, $90, a year or so ago
The mic is the only saving grace. The sound may be better to me than you depict, but they do look and seem a tad "cheap" for that much.
I NEED to know where he got that sweater. It is the best sweater I've ever seen
Every time he mentions they're "only 70 dollars", I remember that my Siberia IIs were 15 dollars.
Ikr, $70 is a stretch for me when I buy headphones
Can you guys review the Logitech H390 Wired Headset? It's kind of the 'other direction' from a chonky 'gamer' headset, but I've been told it isn't bad.
In my opinion on gaming headsets the sound quality or accuracy isn't that important. It's more important to be able to hear where a sound is coming from.
I use Epos/Sennheiser GSP300 headset, honestly works fantastic with DTSX, can hear footsteps in games like Battlefield and CoD perfectly, gun shots have that thump to them without drowning out other noises, I have no idea what they'll be like in normal awful stereo since I never use stereo compressed/uncompressed for anything
Good headphones sound like dtsx without using anything to fix them.
The GSP range has a weird headshape though, so buyer beware. I prefer the standard PC3XX form factor for comfort.
Looks like you got the ad about the sweater cow from Amazon I’ve been seeing everywhere too
Sennheiser has a new IEM coming out on Jan 31st. IE200. Would love to see a video on them.
I'm satisfied with the mic, it sounds really decent, not thrilled about the "farty" sound you're explaining. Because even though i use my headset for 90% gaming, the occasional times i want to listen to music, i really like crisp clear sound. Without hearing it firsthand, headset sound quality reviews are really one of these things that are a "trust me bro" scenario.
this mic is dope, on my shitty laptop speakers I had a hard time even hearing the difference between the studio mic and the one from the headset, very impressive
That looks like the cable for the Sennheiser hd 5xx headphones which is a 2.5mm cable, I just can't tell if this cable has the locking groove around the base of the plug. Not actually an uncommon cable if you're wanting a replacement.
Looks like a decent pair of headphones. I quite like using AKG studio headphones. They have a nice flat response curve, so they're quite true to the sound that was intended, rather than AKG's idea of that sound. Wired only, high inpedence, so they need to be driven by something fairly powerful, but it's so worth it if you have all the parts in place.
That's what I keep telling to people that keep suggesting like used audio gear instead of headphones.
The most suggested are the hd560s, they are 150 ohms, if you just plug them in the back of your PC like nothing, you're leaving a lot performance on the table.
And not all people will be willing to move from a 80 bucks headset to like, USED Gear + mic + amp
@Thunder Arch you're right about that. For the most part I use the studio headphones through an actual amp, pedal or sound card because, like you say, they can't be driven by a phone or computer to anywhere near their full potential. For everyday earphones I use Sony WF-C500. They're cheap, have good battery life, and decent sound. The don't have ANC or any other fancy features, but at the price point they're pretty much perfect for me. Everything else goes through an AV receiver. That controls my TV, console and laptop. I've also got a little Bluetooth adapter to solve the headphone jack crisis that smartphones are facing these days.
Yeah a lot of these so called gaming headphones seem over rated why would've you just buy a pair from a legit sound company......
Really good quick review/unbox. Plenty of good info.
My Logitech G533 wireless/wired headset was $80 years ago, and they are fantastic for under $100 headset. Clearly you don't know what you can get for $80. They even have RGBs!
I had no idea they released a GSX1000 v2. From someone that's used the original GSX1000 for years, the refresh seems... Confusing at best. They really could've done more with it.
Yeah, it looks like it's mostly USB-C, better volume knob, and improved mic audio to 16/48 (thank goodness). USB-C and 16/48 are worthwhile improvements but not enough to really tempt me. Now if they also increased the power output...
@@Astrophizz increased power output would've definitely made it worthwhile for me as well
Omg I love your sweater!!
Budget doesn't mean bad
Drop/massdrop does lol
Do you want to wait 1-60 months for a group buy that has all the disadvantages of a small group buy, but without the cost savings? but still a solid shot the product won't arrive in usable condition? Then buy from drop!
0:23 I actually bought these, but the Bluetooth feature broke after only 8 months. It can no longer use Bluetooth, only play extremely loud white noise.
Linus collabing with a company called Drop is ironic.
For the asking price I'd probably still go with the HyperX cloud alpha
That headset sure might be old at this point but it doesn't disappoint in sound quality or positional awareness
Ew
Yeah, the Pandas were real great, until they "Drop"ped support for them before even the kickstarters of them were out of warranty.
Any chance you guys wana do a follow up on the drop panda headsets? That you guys did a bang up job on recommending only for them being bricked for many owners, international owners were screwed over big time by drop.
Those volume knobs are cheap. Those are exact to the sennheisers from drop. They end up falling off. Also they end up having static when you move the volume. Hey, the mic was good tho. 🤷♂️
The title is this video changed like 17 times already? Can't wait to see the new name tomorrow
I’ve got the H6 Pro with the little CSX300 amp, one of the best sounding headsets I’ve had. And I se Sennheisers
Too. Got them on Black Friday for €161,50
Is a HyperX Cloud II better or worse?
I've just bought the Razer Blackshark V2 from Amazon for GB£65 as they were about the best rated headset online from the research I did. They're replacing the Hyperx cloud from 2020 which have been a great set of headphones for PC gaming..
I'd buy these for my bud for the mic alone, very good
I feel like with gaming gear you should either go for something like $25 or just opt out entirely and get x10 better gear for like x10 the cost ($250). Like you could get an AT2020 mic, Scarlett Solo interface, and some ATH-M20x headphones for that price and it'd sound infinitely better and you'd also sound infinitely better. Could also go the used route which obviously has its own set of good and bad things, the worst of which is that you'd likely be getting the parts from different people and would have to wait way longer whereas what I suggested could be at your house in 2 days.
cool sweater bud
Have the epos h3pro - they are most excellent!
Why do headphone manufacturers constantly put the cable connection on the left ear, when 90% of PC users have their PC on their right side? My corsair virtuoso's are guilty of this too.
Easier to put it on the same side as the mic if you have a single connection. Why not put your computer on the left?
Why would 90% of users have their PC on their right side? If you're right handed so have a mouse pad on the right and have your PC on a desk it seems likely you'd have it on the left. I do.
@@thebighectares obviously people want to look in the side panel window and see their RGB :P
I wouldnt say these are budget, this is about the price range you should be paying for an accessory that will likely ware out in under 2 years with regular use.
I wonder why JAK cables are still a thing
I know we always talk about the audio in terms of the user, but how is the sound leak for other people in the room?
Wow, $80 headphones are now budget headphones
gaming headset is overrated. I bought IEM that cost $80 and it does way better than gaming headset. Even bluetooth headphone is better.
Any headset under $100 id considered budget
The Drop x THX Panda headphones were such a massive disappointment. They didn’t deliver what was initially promised and then pretty quickly abandoned it after release. Their response to issues throughout the entire process was pretty bad. That experience gave me trust issues with Drop being able to support their own products.
The Panda headphones could have been really great. They sound really good…when they work, and you get the tuning right.
Maybe for $80 these might be worth taking the risk. But there’s a lot of competition at this price point under well known brands that are more likely to be reliable and you might be able to get some kind of support if needed. Steelseries and Logitech come to mind. Logitech has wireless headset for around $40, I think, that will get most people by just fine.
Drop collabing is essentially just a distribution deal. It's actually crazy to me how much effort they make to help customer complaints (though, granted some of the manufacturers have non existent support in NA). You just go to THX as if you had any other of their products. This is just a place to get a special price.
@@SquintyGears For the collabs and the products they design, this is absolutely not true. Drop does have regular distribution deals on a lot of products. But even as noted in this video, this collab is a different product than what EPOS offers. So the price isn't reduced just because of distribution, it's reduced because something was done to make this a Drop branded product. And Drop absolutely fronts support for these.
THX didn't design the Panda headphones, nor the DAC/AMP Drop sells. THX is just a prominent feature of the hardware. Drop was on the line for support for the Panda headphones. And Drop, well, dropped the ball on it really badly. There was yet another company involved in finishing the firmware, which was probably the source of the biggest issues. If I went to THX to try to get support, they'd tell me to go somewhere else.
@@bedast ok, i probably would still have tried it. Their name is still on it.
Ok, my main question is: how can an amp be a "gaming" amp? Does it just have RBG lights slapped on top of it and that's it?
I really want bluetooth earbuds with side tone. Cant find ANY!
VOLUME/AUDIO LEVELS LOWER THAN NORMAL..... please check and advise
That's a Christmas jumper you'd get of your gran if I ever saw one 😂
why does the linus pillow on the couch look like he’s been in a fight
Make a review of the fifine h6, it's a Chinese brand headphone but their microphones are good, so maybe it is good
Dam that mic sounds solid
Can u guys also review Logitech G502 X Lightspeed Plus
I am craving to if it is even good
Bro's playing wingman (2v2) and says I killed three 😂
If these are anything like the PC37X, they are going to be trash. I returned those and got a pair of Steelseries Arctis 7P on BF for $80! They're much better!
that headshot tho
I maintain that the Massdrop to Drop rebranding was one of the worst moves ever by a small org that had just made a name for itself
The fact that LTT/short circuit still points this out every time they feature a product from Drop is all the evidence necessary
Neither the Xbox series or the PS5 have audio out on the console as apparently we don't need it.
Man if 79$ is considered budget then I am broke lmao
Pretty curious to know what kind of issues you have with wireless headphones at your desk
I've been using wireless for about a year now, a cloud fight S, and ONCE have i had to unplug/replug the dongle, that was the only issue ever (dongle simply disconnected), few months ago.
and i'm a 10+ hrs use per day every day type of user.
Again, just curious :D
PSA, don't use manscaped's electric razor on any part of your nethers. Don't do it. You'll quickly learn that it isn't a good idea.
Mic sounds pretty good considering. Would need to boost the levels a bit but seems ok.
Compare those to the 50 dollars steelseries headphones with spacial audio
Drop really need to look into a EU distributor - they sell a lot of products people I know want, but have no way of getting (short of extortionate shipping & customs feees).
You know those frequency spectrums are a logarithmic scale so from 10-20kHz is very small. It didn't end at 12kHz.
I think only Canadians would get this, but I have to make this because of the title: The grocery store is popping off.
Just for your renaming of videos people: I saw this vid with the old name, something in the line of "budget does not mean bad", and just remembered it, that I wanted to watch that video! Now it's renamed.
No Frequency Response graph from the lab?
It looks very cheap. I feel like Steelseries looks like higher quality for the same price and you even get a metal headband depending on the model
EPOS is NOT a subsidiary of Sennheiser
Can y'all review the wired and wireless arctis nova pros?