I just bought a filter cutter. I cut open the last four used Motorcraft FL 500S oil filters that I use on my two Fords. All four looked good. No excess glue. Glad to see that.
Good question. Both of these filters were changed after approximately 5000 miles running full synthetic engine oil. The Explorer was running Schaeffer (mainly city travel) while the Focus was running Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (mainly highway travel). No additional additives that I know of.
I’m amazed that I’ve never heard of problems from this, but it sure seems risky having flakes of sealant in your oil filter. A big shame because these filters are otherwise the best bang for your buck (solid construction and industry-best bypass valve).
I don’t seem to have a photo of the date/batch codes off of the filters in the video. The FL-500S in the video was off of an Explorer that had sat for a year or so before the video (so the filter was maybe 1-2 years old). The FL-910S was purchased and installed on a Focus about 6 months prior. The other FL-910S filters I have on hand are stamped “906212224” do you know how to interpret that?
@@reidthemanualfilter left far too long in a turbocharged direct injection engine. Material has been contaminated by fuel, and allowed to set. This is why you change your oil regularly.
@@grabbag6314 neither of these vehicles is turbocharged. Regardless, you think *gasoline* is to blame for the oil filter assembly gasket/adhesive disintegrating?
There are several good brands of filters out there. Motorcraft filters are actually really high quality in some ways, but this glue/sealant quality control issue makes me nervous. Other people are starting to notice it too. I plan to do more testing across brands to look for this same issue. Meanwhile, the most I can do is recommend Wix oil filters. Stay tuned.
No, I do not recommend you buy the “cheap” oil filters. I honestly don’t know what the best overall filter out there is because they each seem to have flaws, but a few quality and affordable options (based on various online evaluations) are Purolator Boss, Fram Ultra Synthetic, and Wix XP. One ranking has Motorcraft at the top though…. and I’ve never actually had a problem with them, so I can’t yet rule them out completely.
Motorcraft has changed oil filter suppliers, maybe because of this quality issue. The new Motorcrafts are probably better, more durable, won't fall apart, but they look flimsy inside with the fiber end caps and nylon (e-core) cage. Still, probably durable, I'd guess. Maybe now when somebody puts a Motorcraft oil filter on their expensive Mustang or Lincoln, etc., they can feel a little better about it.
Those debris from Motorcraft filters aren't surprising at all. You're not the first to have one that bad. Those filters are made by Purolator and that company has had issues with Glue Gone Wild in all of their filters especially the Motorcraft line. If that isn't bad enough the Motorcraft line don't filter very well either. The base end bypass is about the only thing they have going for them. The Boss filters are a little better. However take the Boss's claimed filtering capabilities with a grain of salt. Most of them don't meet what it says on the box or what their website claims. That specification is for one very big filter with a very different part number. Several people over on BITOG have contacted Purolator and requested the filtering specifications on their exact part number. The results were enough for them to switch to a different filter.
@@reidthemanual As a somewhat still newer filter I think the examples of those with defects is smaller. Plus they use a totally different glue. But yes you should ask them to send you the filtering capabilities of your part number.
I had the same issue with this filter. Additionally, the media actually started to tear from the end cap allowing unfiltered oil to pass. I will no longer be using these filters. They're cheapening their product.
It’s really disappointing because Motorcraft oil filters use the best bypass valve on the market… they just need to improve the quality of the actual filter element assembly. 😢
As far as I can tell, these filters have been "Made in USA" for years and years. Maybe a closer inspection over time would have revealed hints of larger manufacturing changes, but for now, I suspect it is just a design (type of glue) and quality control (amount of glue) issue.
I found debris from the F910S filter, I had switched it to a Fram ultra synthetic and have noted the oil stays cleaner longer. I go for 15k oil change cycle with pennzoil platinum.
That’s interesting. I might have seen a similar effect going from the F910S to a Wix XP oil filter and plan to make a video about that in the future. Oil quality is generally important, but the extent to which you filter your oil also has a huge impact on engine life according to a study by GM.
Good job! Makes me wonder if they changed over to an new environmentally friendly glue that is not working out well
These filters are creating pollution… inside my engine! Haha. Does not seem environmentally friendly to me!
I just bought a filter cutter. I cut open the last four used Motorcraft FL 500S oil filters that I use on my two Fords. All four looked good. No excess glue. Glad to see that.
How long of an oil drain interval, and what type of oil, and or additives ?
Good question. Both of these filters were changed after approximately 5000 miles running full synthetic engine oil. The Explorer was running Schaeffer (mainly city travel) while the Focus was running Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (mainly highway travel). No additional additives that I know of.
@@reidthemanual absolutely nothing wrong with those choices, both great oils, and 5k is more than adequate.
This can cause a big problem for VCT/VVC engines aka Coyote. Glad I found this.
I’m amazed that I’ve never heard of problems from this, but it sure seems risky having flakes of sealant in your oil filter. A big shame because these filters are otherwise the best bang for your buck (solid construction and industry-best bypass valve).
@@reidthemanual check out this video. Type in search. “Do all Motorcraft Oil filters create Debris”. And you’ll see what I’m talking about.
What was the date of manufacture ?
I don’t seem to have a photo of the date/batch codes off of the filters in the video. The FL-500S in the video was off of an Explorer that had sat for a year or so before the video (so the filter was maybe 1-2 years old). The FL-910S was purchased and installed on a Focus about 6 months prior.
The other FL-910S filters I have on hand are stamped “906212224” do you know how to interpret that?
@@reidthemanual looks like June 21 2022
bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-filter-date-decoding-thread.351643/
@@reidthemanualJune(06) 21 2022
@@reidthemanualfilter left far too long in a turbocharged direct injection engine. Material has been contaminated by fuel, and allowed to set. This is why you change your oil regularly.
@@grabbag6314 neither of these vehicles is turbocharged. Regardless, you think *gasoline* is to blame for the oil filter assembly gasket/adhesive disintegrating?
This is disturbing as I was about to switch to Motorcraft.
There are several good brands of filters out there. Motorcraft filters are actually really high quality in some ways, but this glue/sealant quality control issue makes me nervous. Other people are starting to notice it too.
I plan to do more testing across brands to look for this same issue. Meanwhile, the most I can do is recommend Wix oil filters. Stay tuned.
I am worried. Is like 4th Video showing filter glue on gasket. I buy Motorcraft filter too but now I am not sure to buy it anymore.
It is definitely cause for concern… Even though I have never come across reports of engine problems caused by this.
What oil filter you recommend? Probably a Fram or STP cheaper brand will do a better job than a original or expensive brand.
No, I do not recommend you buy the “cheap” oil filters. I honestly don’t know what the best overall filter out there is because they each seem to have flaws, but a few quality and affordable options (based on various online evaluations) are Purolator Boss, Fram Ultra Synthetic, and Wix XP. One ranking has Motorcraft at the top though…. and I’ve never actually had a problem with them, so I can’t yet rule them out completely.
It’s glue from poor quality control😁
I’ll be cutting open more filters and looking for this issue now. Not good!
Motorcraft has changed oil filter suppliers, maybe because of this quality issue. The new Motorcrafts are probably better, more durable, won't fall apart, but they look flimsy inside with the fiber end caps and nylon (e-core) cage. Still, probably durable, I'd guess. Maybe now when somebody puts a Motorcraft oil filter on their expensive Mustang or Lincoln, etc., they can feel a little better about it.
Those debris from Motorcraft filters aren't surprising at all. You're not the first to have one that bad. Those filters are made by Purolator and that company has had issues with Glue Gone Wild in all of their filters especially the Motorcraft line. If that isn't bad enough the Motorcraft line don't filter very well either. The base end bypass is about the only thing they have going for them.
The Boss filters are a little better. However take the Boss's claimed filtering capabilities with a grain of salt. Most of them don't meet what it says on the box or what their website claims. That specification is for one very big filter with a very different part number. Several people over on BITOG have contacted Purolator and requested the filtering specifications on their exact part number. The results were enough for them to switch to a different filter.
Oh, boy. Well I just switched to Purolator Boss filters. I’ll have to cut one open to inspect!
@@reidthemanual As a somewhat still newer filter I think the examples of those with defects is smaller. Plus they use a totally different glue.
But yes you should ask them to send you the filtering capabilities of your part number.
I had the same issue with this filter. Additionally, the media actually started to tear from the end cap allowing unfiltered oil to pass. I will no longer be using these filters. They're cheapening their product.
It’s really disappointing because Motorcraft oil filters use the best bypass valve on the market… they just need to improve the quality of the actual filter element assembly. 😢
Probably not being enviromently sound, but CHEAPER. Look into WHERE its being manufactured/ if it's changed.🤔
As far as I can tell, these filters have been "Made in USA" for years and years. Maybe a closer inspection over time would have revealed hints of larger manufacturing changes, but for now, I suspect it is just a design (type of glue) and quality control (amount of glue) issue.
Didn't ford start making alot of motorcraft parts In brazil?
Use Wix oil and air filters. They always win comparison tests and are the BEST for peace of mind. Best regards.
Not the first time i've seen the motorcraft filers failing recently. I'll pay more for the Purolator Boss for the peace of mind.
I’m with you! I just started buying Purolator Boss filters at Menards.
That's why they call it Motorcrap.
Have Motorcraft oil filters served me well for many years? Yes. Will I be continuing to use them? Probably not. 😢
I found debris from the F910S filter, I had switched it to a Fram ultra synthetic and have noted the oil stays cleaner longer. I go for 15k oil change cycle with pennzoil platinum.
That’s interesting. I might have seen a similar effect going from the F910S to a Wix XP oil filter and plan to make a video about that in the future. Oil quality is generally important, but the extent to which you filter your oil also has a huge impact on engine life according to a study by GM.
Now you know why they call it Motorcrap.
Sad to see... :(
Absolute garbage.