This is most likely the case. Toho is insanely strict with how Godzilla is represented when they don't have direct control. More than likely Takara was given the right for the colors as representation, but not the physical likeness.
My question is, why didn't they just retool the Grimlock mold into Mechagodzilla instead? It would have been SO EASY to just do that instead. How they dropped the ball so hard with the Godzilla collab is beyond me. Also, why can't we have Mark Hamill as Staracream? I think he'd knock it out of the park as the Decepticon Air Commander!
I'm so happy about the Monster Hunter collab! I was really hoping the leaked "Knight" listing was going to be the Monster Hunter collaboration, but my dream came true regardless. I should have known Takara Tomy would handle this particular collab: Monster Hunter is a MASSIVE cultural phenomenon in Japan, and the series recently become Capcom's best selling series (even over Resident Evil). There's even a new Monster Hunter game that will release next year, so Capcom is really firing on all cylinders.
I've already seen tons of people on twitter getting their hopes up that we're getting like a G1 Jetfire or a Missing Link G1 Jetfire out of the Macross collab, so I already know that there's going to be some whining when the inevitable Fire Bomber themed Optimus is revealed lol.
As long as Harmony Gold is still kicking, I feel like the Macross stuff will always be a big dumb legal landmine for reasons I probably don't have the patience or energy to understand. But I have long accepted that.
@twistedgaming9185 not quite, no. Every Macross that's not connected to Robotech is free, which is why we're finally getting stuff like Plus blu rays and DX releases of VFs 19-31. But the original and DYRL are still gated off.
While I am pretty disappointed that the Godzilla crossover is so lazy/restricted, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is my favourite movie in the franchise and Kiryu is my favourite kaiju. Plus, I still don't have any version of the Laser Optimus mold, so as long as this isn't disgustingly expensive I can see myself getting it.
Thinking about it, Weaponizers would be a perfect vehicle for Monster hunter collabs. You got a representation of the monsters and a representation of the weapons made out of the Monsters. The only issue is that they'd need to be original molds. Don't think any existing weaponizers would work
Could have also been a case of timing where Takara wanted Megazilla out the door as quickly and cheaply as possible, so they chose not change up the tooling majorly.
I saw someone's digibash of a Kingdom Beast Megatron remolded into Godzilla, which would have been infinitely better than literally just Grimlock in funeral attire.
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 Just the spines on the back and maybe a new Beast head would be enough. Ideally they would have used Kingdom Megatron for Godzilla and Grimlock for MechaGodzilla.
Wonder if Harmony Gold is losing it at this Macross Collab since they can't sue Hasbro anymore. Also love the 40th logo, looks like something you'd seen on a Gaia Memory.
The Kiryu's actually pretty clever with how they made the shoulder pylons blue to line up with Kiryu's blue shoulder cannons. Also the vehicle mode looks pretty damn cool.
I'm glad as a big godzilla fan and also a fan of transformers I wasnt the only one disappointed by the godzilla collab figures the same re used molds shit colors with decals could have been way better than this
8:40 hasbro arguably should’ve been the ones to design the crossover if all the legal issues were to be handled to make it more Godzilla like but in my opinion the laser prime repaint is really clever with the shoulder cannons matching the stuff on the mecha Godzilla design and supposedly they are coming with more accessories supposedly according to some descriptions
Hey, as long as Steve Buscemi does his Randle voice from Monster's Inc for Starscream we'll be all good. I'm really excited. I just got the Studio Series Transformers One Optimus today and it's awesome, i hope you like it.
3:12 you forgot about the Diaclone part as well This one won't be as simple Considering the new Diaclone line its full of modular mechs and vehicles, I expect going from Shield Liger to Prime won't be super simple Like, I am noticing it changes change from beast to robot mode, in the fact that they do seem like 2 different kinds of figures
Fun fact, the zoids universe is technically overlapping with the transformers multiverse due to the Tomy Takara merger. So as a fan of zoids have always wanted a zoid transformer like this for awhile so glad theyre using the classic shield liger
honestly the godzilla one seems so lazy and disappointing. if the had done an original mold for kiryu and remolded grimlock (and kept him as grimlock) i'd have loved it. Hope we get a classic VF-1 for macross. my least favorite is 7. but i'm happy to see it either way.
If I were Hasbro, I would’ve brought back Steve Blum not just because of my Transformers prime bias or anything. I just think the guy does a really good Starscream. Steve Buscemi on the other hand, I have no idea what he was in to know what to expect from transformers one Starscream.
Maybe about time the figures release it won’t look like that. They probably add more details later on Godzilla figure especially when it comes to Godzilla spikes & three different fires breath affects
I have been waiting for a Transformers figure that is based on the new Diaclone figures, considering that the transformers were based off of/basically were the80s Diaclone figures.
If Takara is doing Monster Hunter TFs, I have a hard time believing they would have massive licensing restrictions like with Godzilla here. That, and TM2 Megatron's proportions don't really match with Rathalos. There's a better chance it could be a brand new mold
12:05 I don’t think this is the kind of collaboration you’re thinking. I think it’s going to be an in-game collaboration, as per tradition with Monster Hunter, rather than there being toys made for it.
Takara really got lazy with Godzilla X Transformer figures , like the idea is cool but that fact we just got repaints , instead of something new , it really disappointing , we got TMNT party wallop, Knight Rider and Ghoster Buster , they were original molds
The Godzilla repaints look disappointing to me, there's fan art from IBI (primusibi) that shows transformers having Godzilla and other Kaiju as alt modes like Nemesis Primal turning into Space Godzilla among other things. Hasbro should take notes from his concept art and make new molds and figures based off of those ideas
The prime doesnt look too bad. As Kiryu, the shoulders kinda fit. I get what they are going for. I'm honestly very underwhelmed with the Megatron/Godzilla. A minor retool of the dino head and add some dorsal spines and I would have been pretty happy. Buy, no. Just throw a Megatron-ish head on a black grimlock. 😢 My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
6:15 I disagree. They are NOT doing the same thing here. It's actually WORSE. At least with the SF collaboration, the Transformers in their robot modes look like their Street fighter counterparts. With this, they basically just colored the Grimlock mold with Black, calling that Godzilla. And worst of all, the Laser Optimus mold doesn't look anything like Kiryu/Mechagodzilla in BOTH of its modes. At least, Grimlock's dino mode was an upright therapod like Godzilla.
As odd as it is, I love the vehicle mode colors on mecha Godzilla Prime. I expect this will be in an expensive two pack so it’s a moot point, because I really dislike the Godzilla.
The way Godzilla works, different eras are different licenses, and GxK is currently spread across Bandai, Hiya, and Playmates. The license they got was for Heisei Godzilla, so they couldn't use Kong.
Optimus Prime Type MFS-3 Kiryu makes no sense at all. Imagine they use Grimlock mold same as they did with the Godzilla Megatron type just put Kiryu head. How hard can it be? Kiryu as a truck? really?
They likely spelled his name wrong on purpose cause they do not like him over on the TF2005 forums. That's just them being petty and jelous cause he's working as a professional voice actor and they're not.
Do Hasbro have a meeting on how often they can milk a mould, this is what like the 6th use of the Laser Prime, Yeah a Godzilla Crossover, lets make Godzilla Megatron when Godzilla has never been a villain. make Godzilla a new character
"Godzilla has never been a villain" Okay, lets ignore the blatantly obvious examples like the original film or more recent stuff like Shin Godzilla. Optimus Prime is named after Kiryu, a specific version of Mechagodzilla from the 2002 film Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, in which Godzilla is the villain and Kiryu is piloted by the protagonist.
*Takara Unlike what people like to think, Takara isn't the considerate and saintly company that they believe they are just because of nice paintjobs in some lines, and this was purely Takara's choice.
@@NineHundredDollarydoosi wouldn’t call shin Godzilla evil tho, he’s just pretty much in pain for who knows how long. He’s suffering GMK would be a better example probably
They probably won't, but if Bumblebee turns into the ShadowFox I'm going to need money fast! Godzilla crossover is totally disappointing. Once again the regular voice actors get the shaft. YES, I KNOW WHY! You don't have to tell me or waste time convincing me it's a good thing to get the name actors. I still disagree.
Maybe I am just being overly grumpy and kneejerk here but...the Megatron Godzilla's alt mode reminds me of a Transformers Authentics Grimlock I found in a post-Christmas clearance sale at Aldi.😂
Macross and Transformers crossing over is like watching your divorced parents getting back together
😂❤
Well since the designer for both is the same guy that's terrifyingly accurate
*Please* give me more Zoids! I'd take a Transformers collab with Zoids any day over GI Joe.
toho may not have wanted them to go all out with the collaboration
Then why even bother?
Would be strange given how strict they are about Godzilla
This is most likely the case. Toho is insanely strict with how Godzilla is represented when they don't have direct control. More than likely Takara was given the right for the colors as representation, but not the physical likeness.
@@outpost206💲💲💲 Basically, they are trying to make a "quick buck"
We've come full circle. G1 Megatron as a T-Rex
My question is, why didn't they just retool the Grimlock mold into Mechagodzilla instead? It would have been SO EASY to just do that instead. How they dropped the ball so hard with the Godzilla collab is beyond me.
Also, why can't we have Mark Hamill as Staracream? I think he'd knock it out of the park as the Decepticon Air Commander!
I'm surprised it's taken this long for a Transformers/Diaclone x Zoids crossover.
I'm so happy about the Monster Hunter collab! I was really hoping the leaked "Knight" listing was going to be the Monster Hunter collaboration, but my dream came true regardless.
I should have known Takara Tomy would handle this particular collab: Monster Hunter is a MASSIVE cultural phenomenon in Japan, and the series recently become Capcom's best selling series (even over Resident Evil).
There's even a new Monster Hunter game that will release next year, so Capcom is really firing on all cylinders.
Bandai had a great opportunity to give us a Dragonzord based on Godzilla, and all we got is a black and gold repaint of the legacy figure.
Crazy that they didn't even give Godzillatron a new head: that's just 86 Sludge's head with different paint
So true Takara really got lazy
It’s a different head, the ears on him are different than 86 Sludge but yeah no retooling at the least sucks.
Grimlock should have been showa mechagodzilla with a dome head
I've already seen tons of people on twitter getting their hopes up that we're getting like a G1 Jetfire or a Missing Link G1 Jetfire out of the Macross collab, so I already know that there's going to be some whining when the inevitable Fire Bomber themed Optimus is revealed lol.
As long as Harmony Gold is still kicking, I feel like the Macross stuff will always be a big dumb legal landmine for reasons I probably don't have the patience or energy to understand. But I have long accepted that.
@@outpost206 The legal kerfuffle was already resolved since 2021, finally letting Macross be available globally.
Fire Bomber Jetfire telling everyone to listen to his song is way better than another repainted Laser Optimus.
@twistedgaming9185 not quite, no. Every Macross that's not connected to Robotech is free, which is why we're finally getting stuff like Plus blu rays and DX releases of VFs 19-31. But the original and DYRL are still gated off.
While I am pretty disappointed that the Godzilla crossover is so lazy/restricted, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is my favourite movie in the franchise and Kiryu is my favourite kaiju.
Plus, I still don't have any version of the Laser Optimus mold, so as long as this isn't disgustingly expensive I can see myself getting it.
Laser primes arms are really disappointing. They soft lock at straight down. 45 degrees, and 90 degrees.
Thinking about it, Weaponizers would be a perfect vehicle for Monster hunter collabs. You got a representation of the monsters and a representation of the weapons made out of the Monsters.
The only issue is that they'd need to be original molds. Don't think any existing weaponizers would work
The Transformers x Zoids crossover is the one that interests me the most. I want a Green Horn / Red Horn x Rhinox crossover badly.
Optimus prime mixed with the shield liger looks fucking sick.
Could have also been a case of timing where Takara wanted Megazilla out the door as quickly and cheaply as possible, so they chose not change up the tooling majorly.
Well now all we need are an MDLX Grimlock and Wheeljack and we can have an alternate universe Transformers Devastation player character lineup.
Issac Singleton Jr . voiced Soundwave in the Transformers War For Cybertron Video Game.
He was also Primus in WFC and Teletraan-1 in FOC.
I saw someone's digibash of a Kingdom Beast Megatron remolded into Godzilla, which would have been infinitely better than literally just Grimlock in funeral attire.
I’d argue Grimlock is a really solid mold to start off of, but he’d require some heavy retooling.
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 Just the spines on the back and maybe a new Beast head would be enough. Ideally they would have used Kingdom Megatron for Godzilla and Grimlock for MechaGodzilla.
10:14 I think that’s actually the 86 Snarl head, looks good for a Megs though
I wish they flip Bumblebee and Jazz. Make Jazz the main character and Bumblebee as the background character that has speaking roles.
Bumblebee is more marketable
@@bromodragone8405 Not according to my Wal Mart, which had to mark almost a dozen Bumblebees down to clearance.
One crossover with Transformers that would absolutely obliterate my wallet would be a Power Rangers and transformers crossover.
I bought the macross 7 figure from you when you sold it, and can confirm it’s still a blast to pick up!
Should've had trypticon redecoed as mecha godzilla
I was at Comic Con and they showed a clip of Starscream in TFONE. I can confirm, Steve Buscemi is a perfect Starscream.
Wonder if Harmony Gold is losing it at this Macross Collab since they can't sue Hasbro anymore.
Also love the 40th logo, looks like something you'd seen on a Gaia Memory.
Harmony Gold already agreed to stop restricting Macross in 2021, so there's nothing they can do.
Super hype for the Zoids collaboration ~!
The Kiryu's actually pretty clever with how they made the shoulder pylons blue to line up with Kiryu's blue shoulder cannons. Also the vehicle mode looks pretty damn cool.
No it’s laser prime all over again
I'm glad as a big godzilla fan and also a fan of transformers I wasnt the only one disappointed by the godzilla collab figures the same re used molds shit colors with decals could have been way better than this
That shield D Prime looks like it could be a major retool of Legacy Thundertron?
The moment monster hunter was brought out, I nearly had a heart attack from how shocked I was XD
8:40 hasbro arguably should’ve been the ones to design the crossover if all the legal issues were to be handled to make it more Godzilla like but in my opinion the laser prime repaint is really clever with the shoulder cannons matching the stuff on the mecha Godzilla design and supposedly they are coming with more accessories supposedly according to some descriptions
Hey, as long as Steve Buscemi does his Randle voice from Monster's Inc for Starscream we'll be all good. I'm really excited. I just got the Studio Series Transformers One Optimus today and it's awesome, i hope you like it.
Hopefully the godzilla gets an upgrade kit with bulkier arms and back spikes that could double as some weaponry in robot mode
3:12 you forgot about the Diaclone part as well
This one won't be as simple
Considering the new Diaclone line its full of modular mechs and vehicles, I expect going from Shield Liger to Prime won't be super simple
Like, I am noticing it changes change from beast to robot mode, in the fact that they do seem like 2 different kinds of figures
Fun fact,
the zoids universe is technically overlapping with the transformers multiverse due to the Tomy Takara merger.
So as a fan of zoids have always wanted a zoid transformer like this for awhile
so glad theyre using the classic shield liger
12:30 I've been saying since TM2 Megatron released that they should do a Fatalis out of that mould, it's the perfect shape for it
Isaac Singleton jr. is known for being Sagat in the modern Street Fighter games.
I’d be up for it, considering Optimus prime/convoy was expensive for the 80s.
honestly the godzilla one seems so lazy and disappointing. if the had done an original mold for kiryu and remolded grimlock (and kept him as grimlock) i'd have loved it. Hope we get a classic VF-1 for macross. my least favorite is 7. but i'm happy to see it either way.
ZOIDS CROSSOVER!
I would like to see this figure crossover as basically a Jetfire upgrade, if Jetfire/Skyfire was the main robot in the original Macross.
Transformers one is getting so close can’t wait tickets go on sale tomorrow! I would be surprised if we get one more trailer
The Godzilla collab made me break down crying
Kiryu is probably the worst Transformer reveal I’ve seen in years
Legit, I watched the video, and was like “yesss,” and the Immediately went back to NOOOOO
If I were Hasbro, I would’ve brought back Steve Blum not just because of my Transformers prime bias or anything. I just think the guy does a really good Starscream. Steve Buscemi on the other hand, I have no idea what he was in to know what to expect from transformers one Starscream.
Maybe about time the figures release it won’t look like that. They probably add more details later on Godzilla figure especially when it comes to Godzilla spikes & three different fires breath affects
Its so obvious it should have been the ss86 grimlock as kiryuu Megatron, and a heavily retooled legacy tm2 Megatron as Godzilla prime
Is that a God damn Shield Liger Optimus Prime?
Starscream in one: hello fellow Megatron loyalists
Kinda hoping shield prime gets retooled to make a modern leo breaker!!
Damn it Has-...er...sorry, force of Habit.
Damn it, Takara.
The Optimus Kiryu should have been kingdom Megatron with an Optimus head. Still stupid, but better than what we're getting.
I have been waiting for a Transformers figure that is based on the new Diaclone figures, considering that the transformers were based off of/basically were the80s Diaclone figures.
If Takara is doing Monster Hunter TFs, I have a hard time believing they would have massive licensing restrictions like with Godzilla here. That, and TM2 Megatron's proportions don't really match with Rathalos. There's a better chance it could be a brand new mold
12:05 I don’t think this is the kind of collaboration you’re thinking. I think it’s going to be an in-game collaboration, as per tradition with Monster Hunter, rather than there being toys made for it.
Ah. That makes sense. Probably some promotional character skins/outfits.
I feel like that shield liger prime wouldn't make a bad leobreaker
Replace I with R, and you’ve got a Power Rangers crossover that I’m still waiting on.
More Kiryu Prime for me lol. I think he’s pretty cool
Buscemi *killed it* as Nikita Khrushchev in "The Death of Stalin." I think Starscream is a good comparison.
when i see the liger zoid i see a potential catilla repaint/retool
I am a bit tired of the megatrons and primes. I much prefer like what the did with jurassic park crossover where they are just their own character.
Takara really got lazy with Godzilla X Transformer figures , like the idea is cool but that fact we just got repaints , instead of something new , it really disappointing , we got TMNT party wallop, Knight Rider and Ghoster Buster , they were original molds
berserk as megatron heck ye
Kinda missed opportunity for the mechagodzilla based figure to be grimlock and beast megatron being used as godzilla
Kiryu is Mecha Godzilla 3 BTW.
I only know Isaac C Singleton Jr for being Soundwave in the High Moon games
Bro.. the megatron head is just sludge recoloured with new horns 💀
It's not. Someone else mentioned it so I checked them side by side, both helmets have a crest but they're definitely different heads.
Steve Buscemi has been busier than you think, lol.
It’s literally just a re-mold of Cybertron Leo breaker I think
Advice for pronouncing Patlabor: The "Pat" part of the title comes from the word "Patrol".
Another Devil's Advocate angle could be that this is how the Godzilla people wanted the figures to be. Still, meh.
if that is diaclone quality, it'll be north of $500. no sugar coating the truth
Lmao that’s not a megatron head. That’s a remolded sludge head
TM2 Megatron as Fatalis plz
YES, YES, YES, YES!!!
TRANSFORMERS AND ZOIDS DOING A CROSSOVER!!!
EVEN TRANSFORMERS AND GODZILLA!!!
I GOTTA GET THEM WHEN THEY COME OUT!!!
16:15 Isaac C Singleton was also Cybertron Soundwave...
*War For Cybertron* Soundwave, the game one
The actual Cybertron Soundwave, as in the Galaxy Force anime, is Robert O. Smith
@@fishpop Gah, you're right. Should have looked it up to check, but I was so sure I didn't bother. That'll teach me... 😜
The Godzilla repaints look disappointing to me, there's fan art from IBI (primusibi) that shows transformers having Godzilla and other Kaiju as alt modes like Nemesis Primal turning into Space Godzilla among other things. Hasbro should take notes from his concept art and make new molds and figures based off of those ideas
Give me that Godzilla Megatron!
The prime doesnt look too bad. As Kiryu, the shoulders kinda fit. I get what they are going for. I'm honestly very underwhelmed with the Megatron/Godzilla. A minor retool of the dino head and add some dorsal spines and I would have been pretty happy. Buy, no. Just throw a Megatron-ish head on a black grimlock. 😢 My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Diaclone vs. Zoids
I think my dad had the pink commando figure
Syner Genex
6:15 I disagree. They are NOT doing the same thing here. It's actually WORSE. At least with the SF collaboration, the Transformers in their robot modes look like their Street fighter counterparts. With this, they basically just colored the Grimlock mold with Black, calling that Godzilla. And worst of all, the Laser Optimus mold doesn't look anything like Kiryu/Mechagodzilla in BOTH of its modes. At least, Grimlock's dino mode was an upright therapod like Godzilla.
As odd as it is, I love the vehicle mode colors on mecha Godzilla Prime. I expect this will be in an expensive two pack so it’s a moot point, because I really dislike the Godzilla.
They couldve tied it into GxK and had repaints of Kingdom Primal and Megatron
The way Godzilla works, different eras are different licenses, and GxK is currently spread across Bandai, Hiya, and Playmates. The license they got was for Heisei Godzilla, so they couldn't use Kong.
Hear me out. Lagiacrus as a retool of titans return Skullsmasher. What do you think?
T. rex Megatron Devil Jho
Optimus Prime Type MFS-3 Kiryu makes no sense at all. Imagine they use Grimlock mold same as they did with the Godzilla Megatron type just put Kiryu head. How hard can it be? Kiryu as a truck? really?
Give me Lio Convoy Liger Zero and Optimus Primal Iron Kong I BEG
They likely spelled his name wrong on purpose cause they do not like him over on the TF2005 forums. That's just them being petty and jelous cause he's working as a professional voice actor and they're not.
Transformers x Godzilla yes crossover btw where is it crossover Gi Joe & Kong ?
Maser cannon truck transformer?
Do the Nightracer video then
Do Hasbro have a meeting on how often they can milk a mould, this is what like the 6th use of the Laser Prime, Yeah a Godzilla Crossover, lets make Godzilla Megatron when Godzilla has never been a villain. make Godzilla a new character
"Godzilla has never been a villain"
Okay, lets ignore the blatantly obvious examples like the original film or more recent stuff like Shin Godzilla.
Optimus Prime is named after Kiryu, a specific version of Mechagodzilla from the 2002 film Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, in which Godzilla is the villain and Kiryu is piloted by the protagonist.
*Takara
Unlike what people like to think, Takara isn't the considerate and saintly company that they believe they are just because of nice paintjobs in some lines, and this was purely Takara's choice.
@@NineHundredDollarydoosi wouldn’t call shin Godzilla evil tho, he’s just pretty much in pain for who knows how long. He’s suffering
GMK would be a better example probably
is it me or did the shadow for the macross crossover looked like armada starscream?
The Godzilla crossover is incredibly disappointing, not even a new mold
They probably won't, but if Bumblebee turns into the ShadowFox I'm going to need money fast!
Godzilla crossover is totally disappointing.
Once again the regular voice actors get the shaft. YES, I KNOW WHY! You don't have to tell me or waste time convincing me it's a good thing to get the name actors. I still disagree.
I one I gonna buy is zoids and monster Hunter and zoids spider Man I cross my fingers for remor of sonic the hedgehog transformers crossover
They really think Godzilla fans will buy anything, don’t they?
Maybe I am just being overly grumpy and kneejerk here but...the Megatron Godzilla's alt mode reminds me of a Transformers Authentics Grimlock I found in a post-Christmas clearance sale at Aldi.😂
@@outpost206
It honestly looks like just another version of Shattered Glass Grim.
They couldn't at least give him an actual Megatron head? Such a lazy design
Cheetor + Liger Zero, anyone?