Infernape-line Solo Challenge - Pokemon Platinum

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2023
  • Rules:
    1. Only my starter in battle
    2. No items in battle, except held items
    3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
    4. No evasion moves before level 100*
    Rule details:
    -- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
    -- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
    -- I play the game at 4x game speed
    -- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
    -- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
    -- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
    -- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
    -- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
    -- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
    -- Saving between league members is allowed
    -- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
    -- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
    -- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
    -- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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  • @BubbaJoeSwag
    @BubbaJoeSwag 5 месяцев назад +67

    Life is good when Scott is involved

  • @EthanEvans-nx7dn
    @EthanEvans-nx7dn 5 месяцев назад +153

    Hey Scott, Stealth Rock is actually phenomenal for chip damage in longer fights like the elite 4. When you eventually get around to doing my favorite pokemon, Hippowdon, the permenant sand and rocks stack up really quickly and allow for KOs on mons you otherwise have zero business beating.

    • @omarkennedy7056
      @omarkennedy7056 5 месяцев назад +13

      I hope Scott sees this it's borderline broken in this manner

    • @christophertomlinson8097
      @christophertomlinson8097 5 месяцев назад +8

      Scott is correct about stealth rock if you actually use it you are throwing games by giving your opponents a free set up turn

    • @EthanEvans-nx7dn
      @EthanEvans-nx7dn 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@christophertomlinson8097 Based solely on memory, and I haven't played Platinum in a few years, the only setup mons in the game are Maylene's Lucario, Cyrus's Gyarados, Fantina's Mismagius, and Cynthia's Spiritomb, though the last one is a 10% from Ominous Wind. Besides, the AI is really bad with setup moves and either just doesn't use them or gets way too greedy with them.
      Edit: After some googling, 3 of the above pokemon don't have the moves I thought they did, those being Bulk Up, Dragon Dance and Calm Mind.

    • @christophertomlinson8097
      @christophertomlinson8097 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@EthanEvans-nx7dn stealth rocks was still trash as a playthrough move and in competition it was so ineffective it was completely ignored until smogon got popular and they are a joke

    • @Witzwo1
      @Witzwo1 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@christophertomlinson8097 I think so too. It is an awesome move, to get the ranges you need but most of the time it is more advantagous to just klick another move 2 times. and trainers have so few mons, that it just wastes a moveslot. But I have to admit, against flint, candice, Zyrus and A-Aron it has a niche for unevolved Pokemon.

  • @shimmianNS
    @shimmianNS 5 месяцев назад +76

    On the twenty-sixth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
    The burning 'Ape Swords Dancing
    A dramatic entry into Sinnoh
    The Birds as a perfect ending
    Mewtwo totally sending!
    The first Dragon line slowly growing
    A kaiju rhino stomping
    A metal crab whose stats stay even
    A pseudo legend walled by Steven
    The egg tree with a garbage move pool
    A 'Bro "destined for greatness"
    Giovanni's aces finally winning
    The tapirs using hypnosis
    The 'King of emerald loafing
    A lively mid stage slashing
    The Johto trio roaming
    Surge's 'Chu with a competent trainer
    Classy Cat v Pig Monkey!
    A moonstone evolution
    The "Rhydon of gen three"
    A Pure Power powerhouse
    Wattson's ace in Hoenn
    'Phan v Ursaring!
    A tiny turtle's bubble
    The fire starter digging
    A garden lizard's leech seed
    And those three weirdo mons punching

  • @Lotus_RT
    @Lotus_RT 5 месяцев назад +58

    7:23 Another correction needed: Rock Tomb did not get improved until XY. Until then, Rock Tomb remains with 80 accuracy, 50 base power, and 10 base PP.

    • @ZanderKreegan
      @ZanderKreegan 5 месяцев назад +3

      I came here to say this. It unfortunately still stinks this gen.

    • @kode-man23
      @kode-man23 5 месяцев назад

      Is his overlay wrong then? I thought that too, but he has it at 60 BP and 95 accuracy?

    • @Lotus_RT
      @Lotus_RT 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@kode-man23 Yes, you would be correct on that. I noticed Tackle was also wrong with the Turtwig line as well. Tackle today is 100 accuracy and 40 BP, but Tackle didn't get buffed to 100 accuracy until Gen 5. Its power also didn't buffed until then either, so it should still be 35 BP.

    • @ZanderKreegan
      @ZanderKreegan 5 месяцев назад

      @@kode-man23 Yes, it is wrong. Based on how he's described the overlay before I believe he manually inputs the data, so I imagine it was just an input error.

    • @kode-man23
      @kode-man23 5 месяцев назад

      @@ZanderKreegan Yeah I just watched the Empoleon video, there are all kinds of inaccuracies haha. Not sure how he hasn't noticed Rock Tomb yet. It's going to be the next Venomoth if he doesn't correct himself soon haha

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs 5 месяцев назад +3

    The starter triangle in Gen 4 is so interesting. The way the final evo typing and move coverage allows them all to counter each other. In the end it can be completely backwards with Empoleon dominating Torterra with Ice Beam, Torterra crushing Infernape with Earthquake and Infernape taking Empoleon down with close combat.

  • @kman8445
    @kman8445 5 месяцев назад +30

    14:05
    Important to note here, you were in Blaze so the crit didn't matter at all

  • @duncathan_salt
    @duncathan_salt 5 месяцев назад +14

    With regard to reordering moves: it also matters much less on the DS, since with the touch screen you can select all 4 moves equally quickly.

    • @danielhambrook3669
      @danielhambrook3669 5 месяцев назад +2

      I was going to mention that as well. He's on emulator so he should be able click them with his mouse

  • @archiiebarrett
    @archiiebarrett 5 месяцев назад +14

    Scott, you'll find moves like Stealth Rock will be useful to set up on a trainer's first Pokemon to deal chip damage as they send out their Pokemon, bringing their health bar down within 1 hit range for weaker pokemon, and getting around abilities like Sturdy.

    • @megariderfire1994
      @megariderfire1994 5 месяцев назад +9

      In Gen 4, sturdy won't be a problem since it doesn't work like a built it Focus Sash... that will come into play in Gen 5.

    • @archiiebarrett
      @archiiebarrett 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@megariderfire1994 that's correct, just figured I'd mention it

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 5 месяцев назад +2

      yeah Stealth Rock is more useful in-game in later generations, but not in Gen IV. there might be an edge case late-game, but it's weird how it's one of the earliest TMs you get when it's lacking in real utility.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 5 месяцев назад +6

      Stealth Rock can be useful for punching upwards on Distortion World Cyrus if a Pokémon either is bad overall and needs to work with 75% of the health of a Pokémon or does well up to that Cyrus battle. If that battle is not a roadblock, then Stealth Rock is useless.

    • @megariderfire1994
      @megariderfire1994 5 месяцев назад

      @@dvillines26 Yeah...and I know Stealth Rock is a lot more useful in competitive singles than in a solo playthroughs or any playthrough even, where it's a lot more situational.

  • @lorddelibird
    @lorddelibird 5 месяцев назад +23

    Not sure if it gets pointed out in a later video but rock tomb doesn’t get its base power+accuracy buff until generation VI rather than generation IV.

  • @veradrost9654
    @veradrost9654 5 месяцев назад +17

    Thank you for your hard work this year, Scott! I've been thoroughly enjoying your videos, and this month has been a treat.

  • @chrisdaignault9845
    @chrisdaignault9845 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hi Scott. This is going to be a fun series, I think.
    I notice your interface is having trouble with STAB moves on types that your pokemon didn’t start with. Mach punch is showing 40 power instead of 60 here at 11:26. Earthquake had a similar issue for at least part of yesterdays vid.

  • @HavenKhaos
    @HavenKhaos 5 месяцев назад +5

    Ladies and Gentlemen, it's time for Pokemon Sun Wukong to shine. I think something about Infernape that makes it just pop off is how flexible it is. You go for a full physical set and that's genuinely good but Mixed and Special also work really well. I don't think delaying to 23 for Nasty Plot is at all optimal but the fact the Infernape line just gets... every option it could want for taking Sinnoh by storm. I love the Fire monkey and he's by far my favourite starter pokemon.

  • @slayersam1
    @slayersam1 5 месяцев назад +8

    On the screen with Roark i dont think its calculating the stab for mach punch it shows the power as 80 which of course means its showing the 2x 40 weakness against the rock types but not the stab

  • @travisalexander6440
    @travisalexander6440 5 месяцев назад +3

    Monke!
    Sorry... couldn't help it. Infernape was always my starter in Gen4, so I am excited to see this.

  • @SantaFeSuperChief1
    @SantaFeSuperChief1 5 месяцев назад +3

    Infernape with the Goku pose in the thumbnail

  • @saltytyranitar6981
    @saltytyranitar6981 5 месяцев назад +1

    The research you put into starting these games really paid off. I'm really enjoying your more confident play and how you're already making observations like the rare candy distribution and the heightened emphasis on crucial movepool choices in Gen 4 onward.

  • @evawhite1144
    @evawhite1144 5 месяцев назад +5

    I know I didn't comment yesterday on Torterra's playthrough, but I swear, when I 1st received the notification that Scott was doing a gen 4 run I started stimming so hard in excitement, I'm so happy he's doing gen 4 now.
    We all know Infernape is the best of the 3. The Piplup line will probably be better than Turtwig, but ain't no way they can surpass the ape, especially with Gardenia being the 2nd gym leader. Tho, you can get Pluck, a flying type move from Floaroma Town, and teach it to Prinplup before facing her, which could give it a fighting chance. Volkner, I don't think he will be a problem, because, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think Empoleon also gets access to the swords dance+ earthquake combo. But other than Gardenia early on, I can't see much of anyone or anything else walling Empoleon, because the steel typing is just unfairly good with all the resistances it has. If Gardenia was later on in the game, or if it was possible to really skip her and go back to her later once you are over-leveled the same way you can do with Brawly in gen 3, then probably Empoleon's time could be comparable to Infernape's, but I don't think that's going to be the case.
    Also, he finished the game with 0 fire stab moves, which yeah, despite Infernape being the best starter, kinda proves fire types ain't all that necessary. Like, ofc you need them, but you can perfectly pass the game without a fire type, is what I'm saying.
    Also, I was expecting Cynthia to be harder or put up more of a fight, but I guess she's not going to be when there's so many rare candies, and you're that high of a level. Like, he was lvl 86 at the end. 26 levels higher than most of her team, so ofc she's going to be a sweep.
    Anyways, this was really good as always. Really excited for Gen 4 and the Empoleon run tomorrow, let's see if it's anywhere near as good as Infernape or not.

  • @jameshope3652
    @jameshope3652 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've loved seeing you get started on Gen 4. I recently started Brilliant Diamond. I've only finished one gym so far, and that is all of my experience with Gen 4. I completely missed it first time around.
    It's actually pretty cool to see you struggle through your first few play-throughs, not because I'm a sadist, but because it is nice to see someone as amazing as you are has the same struggles we all do. It's fantastic to watch you grow.

  • @WorkInProgressX
    @WorkInProgressX 5 месяцев назад +4

    It’s nice to see my all time favorite poketuber doing my all time favorite pokemon line.

  • @gaminggoddess85
    @gaminggoddess85 5 месяцев назад +2

    The reason Flint's Magmortar looks so cool is because he's using pokeball seals, a new mechanic that lets you customize the animation when your pokemon comes out of its ball. There's a surprising amount of different seals and you can mix and match. I like putting an explosion of pink flower petals on my Roserade's ball 🙂
    Also Stealth Rock is used in nuzlockes for breaking Sturdy but I'm not sure that's very useful in solo challenges. But bugs, flying, ice and fire types take a cool 25% hp damage if they come in on Stealth Rocks and a ridiculous 50% if they're a dual type with both types weak to rock.

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 5 месяцев назад +2

      It is helpful against Cyrus, since all of his Pokemon are Rocks weak.

  • @jimmiewoodsjw
    @jimmiewoodsjw 5 месяцев назад

    My fav gen! Thanks so much for doing Gen 4 runs Scott, been waiting so long for this Gen and it’s finally here!

  • @Dwcdash
    @Dwcdash 5 месяцев назад

    25:39 the more Scott lore I receive the more I realize we could live in the exact same neighbourhood
    We are having an incredibly warm winter this year. It was a brown Christmas for sure. I am all for it as I work outside

  • @metaloom
    @metaloom 5 месяцев назад +2

    There's a few move tutors found throughout the game in platinum, and one of the early ones teaches the elemental punches!

  • @Volti666
    @Volti666 5 месяцев назад

    When you started Gen 2 I was sooo happy to see it, for it was my nostalgia Gen. I learned a lot about how the gen actually works and made me curious what I could learn about the other generations.
    In Gen 3 was of course a major shift, but in an exciting way. My appreciation for the gen 3 games rose with every video.
    And now we arrived here at gen 4. I'm all in for it and excited about the journey ahead. Thank you Scott

  • @fernandoguillen5996
    @fernandoguillen5996 5 месяцев назад +4

    In pokemon platinum you can teach tutor moves to pokemon in exchange of shards (red, blue, green and yellow)
    By example there's a tutor in the route at west of Pastoria city who can teach infernape thunder punch

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll 5 месяцев назад

      True, but it's terribly luck based. Granted my issue was with a fossil, but in Brilliant Diamond I think I spent over 2 hours before I could get a Skull Fossil.

    • @zuthalsoraniz6764
      @zuthalsoraniz6764 5 месяцев назад +1

      And you can find the two red shards and six blue shards needed before the elite 4 without using the underground, I think
      But I am not sure if it is worth the detours

    • @milonchello1643
      @milonchello1643 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@llSuperSnivylland emulators dont work that well with the underground at least desmume and nosgba didnt when i used to play with them.

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll 5 месяцев назад

      @@milonchello1643 The mining minigame should work fine with them, though I do know of some instances where the game crashes if you try to go Underground.

    • @milonchello1643
      @milonchello1643 5 месяцев назад

      @@llSuperSnivyll for me it worked for like 5 mins after getting the digging gear and never again after that, insta crash saying something about nintendo something not working

  • @andersonantunesdeleu8591
    @andersonantunesdeleu8591 5 месяцев назад +3

    Infernape is such a cool Mon! But I think it's kind of a glass cannon cause it hits very very hard. This run was even more interesting than yesterday's run. Thank you Scott! And I know you'll get better and better...!

  • @garrett7261
    @garrett7261 5 месяцев назад

    awesome videos Scott loving it as always can't wait for more platinum is my favorite game I love Empoleon my favorite gen 4 starter can't wait to see that one keep up your awesome work and thank you for all you do I appreciate your amazing pokemon challenges always makes my days better

  • @somerandomgoblin2583
    @somerandomgoblin2583 5 месяцев назад

    i really love the look of this new layout, especially the introductions of important trainers!

  • @GreenTense
    @GreenTense 5 месяцев назад

    Been watching you since you did gen 1 and barely did gen 2 videos, you have grown so much, your quality has improved as well, but in the end it is YOU who makes the magic happen with your funny dialogue and your over the top stats and layout that l like so much. (Look at you all married now, l remember when she was your gf as well lol) This is my favorite generation and I cant wait to see you go through it and learn and improve your routes, runs and fights video by video! Another year down Scott! Let’s hit that like button!

  • @DogZuDem
    @DogZuDem 5 месяцев назад +4

    2:03 „This engine feels like frozen molasses“ beautiful analogy! I can tell that you put even more effort into writing the script for newer videos.

  • @frostedbyte0759
    @frostedbyte0759 5 месяцев назад

    Great video dude! Happy holidays. Make sure to take care of yourself and get plenty of rest!

  • @drchops_4242
    @drchops_4242 5 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite Pokémon!! Thank you Scott!!

  • @devinbuettgenbach2941
    @devinbuettgenbach2941 5 месяцев назад

    I'm happy you're playing my favourite gen finally. Can't wait for the Empoleon run where mah boi is shown to be one of the goats

  • @nickrookstool9790
    @nickrookstool9790 5 месяцев назад

    Uk I don't usually comment on videos but I've been super down and Scott's videos have been a bright spot in my everyday so thank you Scott

  • @rooislangwtf
    @rooislangwtf 5 месяцев назад +1

    29:25 the slow zoom on Blissey's HP going down got me

  • @saberix69
    @saberix69 5 месяцев назад

    I like watching Scott learn new generations but him going in with more knowledge and advice from other players at the start. There's a learning curve for sure and I don't mind it, in fact I do like the vibe that these first few Platinum videos have. Seeing him fix the mistakes from these beginning videos will also be good because I really like these nerdy pokemon optimization videos quite a lot.

  • @iskander0725
    @iskander0725 5 месяцев назад

    I've grown so used to struggle bus fire runs from you. This was... a breath of fresh air for you, I'm sure. I'm curious how less stacked Fire types will do in this Gen. Imo, I think they'll have a much better time. I expect a slower but still good run for Empoleon's line.

  • @Rhyzilla
    @Rhyzilla 5 месяцев назад +1

    Another great video, also I had 0 idea how many rare candies there were in Sinnoh thats insane

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise 5 месяцев назад +2

    I don't think the gen- 6 EXP share was giving up on the problem, it was solving a different problem. It was recognizing that with over 720 Pokémon and still growing, players shouldn't be expected to use the same team the whole way through just to avoid grinding. Seriously, Kalos has the largest regional dex of any generation the player is tripping over multiple new Pokémon catch on every route.
    Sure, if the player uses the same team of six from start to finish, they will end up over leveled, but only in the same way a solo Pokémon also ends up over leveled in previous generations. The point of the EXP share is that it allows players to have a dynamically routing team which can be adjusted to face different challenges.
    I have such fond memories of gen-6 because for the first time I felt like an actual Pokémon master, who not only catches 'em all, but trains them too.

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 5 месяцев назад

      I just don't feel like XY is properly balanced around the XP share even with a team rotation. It's just so hard to stay at a reasonable level without careful juggling. Sun/Moon is better about that because it's a deceptively difficult game at times, whereas XY is one of the most trivially easy games in the series. SWSH is also in XY territory with literally only two intimidating trainers - Raihan and Leon. SV is interesting because trainers are not mandatory and wild Pokemon are easy to avoid so you have so much more control over experience management, and then the EXP Share function actually becomes a boon rather than a fun-killer because you can very easily raise up low level Pokemon passively. I feel like SV finally solved the problem they created for themselves with XY, and I hope that design philosophy continues forward. Simply being able to control how many trainers and wild encounters you face really is the fix. The games were really always about the boss battles anyway, but because the games were stuck in their JRPG routes for a long time, random encounters and mandatory trainer battles were seen as part of the essential experience despite how tedious they could get.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 5 месяцев назад

      At this point, Pokémon is a console MMORPG. They will have to keep this design philosophy in mind.

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll 5 месяцев назад

      The modern EXP Share is a fantastic addition, as is Box Link. Making it a thing, or even making it mandatory to use, is not a problem.
      The problem is that they keep balancing the game's difficulty as if you didn't have it. So while you now have tools to make your teams stronger in less time, the bosses aren't getting any stronger - and in fact they are generally getting weaker ("Hello, I'm a Gym Leader with a Staraptor that does NOT have Close Combat even though it's an evolution move").
      Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are the only games that so far have handled the modern EXP Share fairly well, since bosses have logical EV invested and better movesets. (BDSP's Elite Four also does it, but everything beforehand is a joke)

  • @flamewarrior8172
    @flamewarrior8172 5 месяцев назад

    I had never really thought to put rockslide on infernape, just didnt feel right not having a fire type move. Great video!

  • @pinkiest1899
    @pinkiest1899 5 месяцев назад

    I loved the spinning middle of the grass gym instead of jumping all around. It was a great effect!

  • @AzureFlute
    @AzureFlute 5 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I think not enough people mention is Generation V didn't just have the level-scaled experience. It also revamped the experience yields of Pokémon so the majority of them just give more, and that was maintained in all games afterwards, so Generations I-IV really are much, much slower to level up because of this mix of lacking the extra experience as well as the updated systems.

  • @blue_boo3171
    @blue_boo3171 5 месяцев назад

    Hell yeah, Infernape is my favorite poke, can't wait to watch this after work!

  • @brinnshea
    @brinnshea 5 месяцев назад

    Happy Boxing Day, Scott!
    It's great to see you playing gen 4, since that's the only gen I skipped over. All the stuff you find about Platinum is going to extra interesting

    • @WillowEpp
      @WillowEpp 5 месяцев назад +1

      omg, he played a fighting type on Boxing Day, that's fantastic. (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)

    • @brinnshea
      @brinnshea 5 месяцев назад

      @@WillowEpp HA! That is pretty funny, I didn't even notice that

  • @jacobginsburg3457
    @jacobginsburg3457 4 месяца назад

    Hey Scott! Love the videos, and how your rankings makes these stand out against a sea of pokemon videos on RUclips. I know this is a new overlay, but I noticed that the moves power did not take into account the secondary typings STAB on Mach Punch. Keep up the great videos!

  • @Willingmess
    @Willingmess 5 месяцев назад

    Nice! With its good mixed stats and coverage I’m thinking Infernape is lined up for a great run here!

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 5 месяцев назад

      Also has the movepool to take advantage of that coverage.

  • @JustAnderw
    @JustAnderw 5 месяцев назад

    The sneasel moving in time with the music is so cute. I wish there was a big battle in the route before so that great snowy music could play longer

  • @DwunD016
    @DwunD016 5 месяцев назад +2

    My favorite sinnoh starter! Time to see how it does!

  • @RezeedTheDataspirit
    @RezeedTheDataspirit 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are mostly right about the fire types. A bit of trivia about gen 4. Depending on what GBA pokemon game is inserted, 5 additional pokemon get added in the tall grass/wild per game. From this method, you can get a Solrock, Growlithe and Vulpix.

    • @yuso3333
      @yuso3333 5 месяцев назад

      On of those is not like the others.

    • @RezeedTheDataspirit
      @RezeedTheDataspirit 5 месяцев назад

      @yuso3333 to be fair, the one you're talking about is known for mainly using fire moves.

  • @ktvx.94
    @ktvx.94 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Scott don't forget you can use Grass Knot against Barry's Prinplup. Also Flare Blitz is amazing, and using a fire move in general is good to take advantage of Blaze.

  • @blakeschwab7518
    @blakeschwab7518 5 месяцев назад

    only played through platinum once or twice, will be fun to learn the game from your vids.

  • @woodenspoon8183
    @woodenspoon8183 5 месяцев назад +2

    Not sure if someone else has pointed it out, but Rock Tomb doesn't get buffed to 60 power and 95 accuracy until Gen 6.

  • @robertlozano1149
    @robertlozano1149 5 месяцев назад

    At 29:40 the little “nice” got me 😂 another solid solo challenge!

  • @MrSaxophonist23
    @MrSaxophonist23 4 месяца назад

    The slow zoom on the blissey loosing HP was gold lol

  • @megariderfire1994
    @megariderfire1994 5 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly, I can see why Infernape triumphed over Torterra. It has an overall better typing (Torterra really struggles against the many trainers with Ice Type coverage) for a lot of the major battles in the game and better speed effectively make use of it's good attack and Swords Dance.

  • @gemmabarnes
    @gemmabarnes 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mach punch got replaced by conversion 2 pre gardenia as u mentioned a glitch with the oran Berry so not sure if u missed it or saw it too late but lovely work on a new gen as normal.

  • @gamefan1353
    @gamefan1353 5 месяцев назад

    Don't know why I forgot to comment this on the last video, but: I have been excited for the gen 4 Playthroughs since last year. It's very fun to see my beginning with the series represented here. (Well, it was pearl, but platinum was my first game I waited for)

  • @arceuszilla4834
    @arceuszilla4834 5 месяцев назад

    Loved the zoom in on blissey's hp as it took forever to go down

  • @SmashMath151
    @SmashMath151 5 месяцев назад

    Yay, Infernape!
    For more money you can get the Amulet Coin quite early in Amity Square north of Hearthome City. Also, have you looked into Shard locations? Most good tutor moves (and Gligar's fave Mud-Slap) are locked in the Survival Area postgame, but you can get things like the elemental punches and Zen Headbutt on Route 212 just west of Pastoria. It feels like ThunderPunch might've been helpful in a couple spots, especially against Wake. Maybe picking them up wastes more time than it's worth though.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 4 месяца назад

    The first half of this video is a crazy departure from the energy turtwig's video had. We went from "I'm fighting everything and everyone" to taking multiple key fights in a row at wildly unprepared levels lol

  • @TheGreenMittenz
    @TheGreenMittenz 5 месяцев назад +3

    I wonder about using grass knot over rock tomb/slide for a chunk of the game. It doesn't have perfect coverage with EQ and CC but the only thing you are likely to encounter that would matter is the Zubat line. Advantage is that it has the same effective power against Gyarados as Rock Tomb and ignores the intimidate drop. Could be useful on Wake specifically assuming you 2 shot the Gyarados.

  • @SwaxMain4u
    @SwaxMain4u 5 месяцев назад

    Close combat is honestly just an insane move

  • @Shaunmizer
    @Shaunmizer 5 месяцев назад +1

    A little tip
    Grass knot wrecks Bertha's team except for gilscor

  • @GameGod77
    @GameGod77 5 месяцев назад

    Happy to see you've started Platinum and already covered my favourite starter. Wonder how long it's gonna take before the gen 4 mon start getting 2nd playthroughs?

  • @superkubus-nk8lb
    @superkubus-nk8lb 5 месяцев назад

    Underestimating the power of stealth rock is a great travesty. Dealing 10-50% of health of any entering pokemon is very useful

  • @TastyMeerkat
    @TastyMeerkat 5 месяцев назад +1

    For Bibarel, combine 'Bib' and 'Barrel' and you're good to go.

  • @effy9526
    @effy9526 5 месяцев назад

    Not sure if someone's already mentioned this, but Natural Gift from the Veilstone Department Store turns Electric when holding a Pecha Berry, and Ice when holding an Aspear Berry. They're pretty neat ways to take out Wake's and Cyrus' Gyaradoses as well as Cynthia's Garchomp, and a lot of other threats in Platinum when your coverage is lacking (although obviously, thanks to Swords Dance, infernape didn't really need the help in the later stages of the run). I think Natural Gift's TM is cheap and able to be bought repeatedly which means you don't need to be precious about using and overwriting it, too.

  • @bortzanator3018
    @bortzanator3018 5 месяцев назад

    So just my 2 cents, if I were running these games (which... I'm not haha). As far as HM users go, personally, I would use the Universal Pokemon Randomizer to set wild catch rates to 100% as well as allowing every pokemon to learn any HM. Now, that solves spending any time catching a bunch of extra HM users, but not the problem of "oh wow, I didn't know [insert titular pokemon's name here] could learn surf!" Again, totally your call, I'm going to watch and enjoy your vidoes probably no matter what you do.

  • @AnimeCafe93
    @AnimeCafe93 4 месяца назад

    You deserve a like and comment for that blissey health bar moment

  • @Jeikobu
    @Jeikobu 5 месяцев назад

    So, I love Torterra, but I think Infernape will always out perform it. However, I do think Torterra has more room to optimize.
    All in all, I love gen 4, it has so many of my favorite mons, and I'm super excited for more of this series.

  • @ThirdPointInLine
    @ThirdPointInLine 4 месяца назад

    Ha, a Canada based region would be pretty cool actually. I'm on the opposite side as you but I think part of what would make it cool is how different different provinces are from each other (while still being kind of similar in other ways)

  • @craigyeah1052
    @craigyeah1052 5 месяцев назад

    Certainly very interesting to see pokemon sweep through the league so easily, especially when the lauded Cynthia is the finale. The rare candies making the endgame easy is funny especially in contrast to how Gen 5 will be, yikes for that. I'm sure some lower BST stat mons will struggle but with the huge increase in coverage move and set-up move distribution I wonder how few it will be.

  • @mullet_muffins
    @mullet_muffins 5 месяцев назад

    great run. I wonder if, overall, these runs will be more comparable in time despite the longer length because of the reduced number of optional trainers and the rare candies allowing you to steamroll the e4? At least, for the final evos & legendaries... guess we shall see.

  • @scrubplaceholder6216
    @scrubplaceholder6216 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the late game for a lot of pokemons is a bit boring since you pick-up like 28 rare candies.
    Yellow is still my favorite, but I aint complaining about any of your content!

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 5 месяцев назад

      and then in SV I feel like I never have enough Rare Candies. If you're not level grinding, the level jumps in the endgame can be rough, I've found.

  • @KiranasOfRizon
    @KiranasOfRizon 5 месяцев назад

    Bibarel. Pronounced Bee Barrel. You find a barrel, you think it contains rum, but it's actually full of bees! This is an accurate description of the disappointment experienced upon encountering a wild Bibarel.

  • @faeyellencassidy8960
    @faeyellencassidy8960 5 месяцев назад

    "It's better to attack than use Stealth rock."
    (Laughs in Sturdy)

  • @jarthvons2539
    @jarthvons2539 4 месяца назад

    Hey Scott, you can actuallly find a bibarel in the wild in the grass just before hearthome city, so you would only need a bidoof, bibarel and flyer for all the HMs

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  4 месяца назад

      It's just a lower encounter rate. Speedrunner and I discussed it as an option and he was saying how he wants to stop using it because it takes longer to find & catch than two other more common mons.

  • @FlamingAomeba
    @FlamingAomeba 5 месяцев назад

    The NICE when the timer hit .69 during the Blissey 😂

  • @HavenKhaos
    @HavenKhaos 5 месяцев назад

    I think, beyond having more levels for Fantina, an option was definitely to use Rock Tomb to lower her Mismagius's speed While the damage would have been less. I feel like the speed control could have made it slightly more consistent. Honestly though. I think the right choice is just to take the time for some earlier training, not just because you need to anyway for Barry, but because Infernape is such a huge jump in power from Monferno.

  • @shootingstardust97
    @shootingstardust97 5 месяцев назад

    Scott in the early game in jubilife city u can actually get the tm for hidden power which I am not sure if u ban it for these initial playthrough, also if doing chimchar evolution line it may be nice to hold its evolution back till it learns nasty plot for a early op setup move

    • @metaloom
      @metaloom 5 месяцев назад

      That's only in diamond and pearl

  • @yamiryushi
    @yamiryushi 5 месяцев назад

    Something that could help ya: bibarel, the evolution of bidoof, is like the ultimate hm friend. It learns all of them except for fly. No joke. It's great!

  • @LordRazzia
    @LordRazzia 5 месяцев назад

    ***3rd gym spoiler***
    14:12 I think blaze kicking in would have gotten you the KO on Mismagius regardless of the crit. These abilities are hard to remember, but I'm glad your interface shows when Blaze/Torrent/Overgrowth kick in.... so long as you have that type's move in your moveset.

  • @PoisonJao
    @PoisonJao 4 месяца назад

    Will you do a Pysduck run? That duck is a monster in gen4. It doesn't have awesome stats but the movepool is INSANE!! xD

  • @Mr_Soleo
    @Mr_Soleo 5 месяцев назад

    For the goose pokemon, I think it ought to be a flying-fighting type.

  • @KingsCourtBB
    @KingsCourtBB 5 месяцев назад

    Commenting and liking because my favorite Pokémon 💞

  • @rc4780
    @rc4780 5 месяцев назад

    Pro tip: Natural Gift is phenomenal for trainers like Crasher Wake and Candice and can be purchased in the department store. You don't have to spend time grinding. Also don't underestimate Candice just because you've swept her with an Infernape - she's possibly the hardest Gym Leader in DPPt because of her Froslass and its Snow Cloak. She will absolutely give resets to neutral matchups. Only other contender is Crasher Wake.

  • @kiramcgrath9451
    @kiramcgrath9451 5 месяцев назад

    in the new year will you be releasing streams of platinum? also, do you have future plans to do runs in hg/ss or are you only planning to focus on gen 1 remakes? p.s. really excited to see leafeon/glaceon when you get round to it :)

  • @homer23422000
    @homer23422000 5 месяцев назад

    Scott, Commander Mars' Purugly is one of the strongest early Ace Pokemon in the series, and is an easy wipeout for Nuzelock players.

  • @SomeSortofUsername-ey4uh
    @SomeSortofUsername-ey4uh 5 месяцев назад

    Speaking from the perspective of someone having no experience with generation four, I think you do an excellent job in informing your audience on the new interactions that are important to know and have a better viewing experience. Now if only we could do something to turn you away from the allure of the false prophet and guide you back to our Lord Helix's embrace.

  • @Cyime
    @Cyime 5 месяцев назад

    Can’t wait to see a Regigigas run

  • @henry5274
    @henry5274 5 месяцев назад

    I love how one of the scariest champions isnt a big deal in this type of challenge because of how stupidly overpowered you are.

  • @CasualVideoGamer
    @CasualVideoGamer 5 месяцев назад

    My prefer the Turtwig line, Torterra being a world turtle was really neat.
    However, the fire monkey was amazing on my first time playing Diamond. Infernape is such an amazing lil shit AND could do well as a mixed attacker (on full teams, anyway).

  • @derekwilliamson5386
    @derekwilliamson5386 5 месяцев назад

    Sunny day+Solar beam has been my go to for fire types against Wake.

  • @treiz01
    @treiz01 5 месяцев назад

    Yesss just when I am starting to play Platinum for the first time myself!!!

  • @Jackbakker95
    @Jackbakker95 5 месяцев назад

    Yo it's my favorite starter line! Infernape has been a top mon for me ever since I first saw it in my old DP handbook and using it in playthroughs was always a blast

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation 5 месяцев назад

    You definitely should've been using Rock Tomb turn 1 against Fantina, but I like the persistence. Flame wheel seemed to be a roll for a 2 hit with potentially just over half damage with just shy of half with a low roll. With her sitrus berry, this should make a guaranteed 3 hit for you with her only getting 2 attacks in, which you should be relatively safe with as long as confusion doesn't mess you up and she doesn't crit

  • @justsomejojo
    @justsomejojo Месяц назад

    Infernape is actually one of the reasons I replay Platinum very rarely. It was my first Gen4 starter and every time I tried to replay the game with the other two, they just felt so underwhelming in comparison. Add to that how Infernape has very little competition as a Fire type in Sinnoh (just a bit more in Platinum) and it starts looking crazy how unbalanced it feels. I kinda like it design-wise but it's one of those "why would you ever not pick it"-level of pokemon.

  • @Shawnzy1
    @Shawnzy1 5 месяцев назад

    Elemental punch iron punch infernape is a chefs kiss

  • @avpclassic
    @avpclassic 5 месяцев назад

    Couple of overlay questions. Can you put a crit chance % for your mon on the Platinum overlay? Friendship currently takes its spot and Return's power is already represented on the screen via damage power, plus it's not necessary if you don't use Return. And can you put "type" icons on opponent mons on the RBY, Crystal, and Emerald overlays?

    • @kotzer71
      @kotzer71 5 месяцев назад

      every pokemon is going to have the same crit chance outside of pokemon with superluck ability

    • @WorkInProgressX
      @WorkInProgressX 5 месяцев назад

      Crit chance is only relevant in gen 1 because it’s based on the base speed stat rather than being a fixed 6.25% like in gen 2-6.
      Yes there are stage modifier even for crit chance like focus energy but they’re so rarely used that it would waste coding time and overlay space to implement those

    • @avpclassic
      @avpclassic 5 месяцев назад

      @@WorkInProgressX Oh thanks, I didn't know that. Appreciate the clarification!

  • @SentretPeanut
    @SentretPeanut 5 месяцев назад

    Monferno was a real trooper versus Fantina! ♥️