Torterra-line Solo Challenge - Pokemon Platinum
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2023
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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The physical special split really did great things. Like actually giving people a reason to use Hitmonchan for it's supposedly signature gimmick. Granted a decade late, but still.
I always wonder why they decided to give sneasel not one but two special types but an higher attack in gen 2... It was so weird
@adm6302 The split was supposed to be introduced in gen 2 but was cut. Iwata did an interview talking about the difficult development of Gold and Silver.
@@somedogsarecops2354 oh I didn't know that. Thank you for letting me know
it's both good and bad, but overall good. Fighting types with elemental punches and Feraligatr benefit from being able to use their higher atk on coverage/physical STAB, but then you have Abra and Haunter/Gengar not being able to use the elemental punches with great effect anymore.
One pretty notable disadvantage to the physical special split is that Hidden Power became unusuable as coverage for physical attackers.
32:26 Slight correction on this Scott: If fog is on the field, it's not innate -1 accuracy. When fog is on the field, the accuracy of every move is reduced by 40%. So in essence, it would be like every move that normally has 100% accuracy has turned into Hypnosis! Of course this does also affect the opponent as well, but yeah it will probably make the fights a major slog!
It is worth noting that moves that bypass accuracy checks such as Swift though are not affected, and if the Pokemon you're running with has a weather changing ability, you can overwrite the fog weather without issue, which will definitely be a good thing if/when you decide to run with the Snover/Hippopotas lines.
No wonder why my moves miss like crazy in that Route.
In regards to Blizzard accuracy, Blizzard still bypasses accuracy checks in hail to this day. They did not get rid of that mechanic in gen 6. I’m guessing you’re checking the move in Bulbapedia and seeing the bypass listed as a gen 4-5 effect, but note that it does not say the effect was removed in the gen 6+ section. Alolan Ninetales is one of my all time favourite Pokemon, and I love spamming no miss Blizzards with its Snow Warning ability, and have done so in every gen since it was introduced. ^_^
Yeah, the change that happened in gen 6 is that they no longer have a 30% chance to bypass Protect anymore
@@NotAnElk No, that's a Diamond/Pearl-exclusive glitch. What happened in Gen 6 was the nerf from 120 Base Power to 110.
@@NotAnElk That was actually a glitch that was fixed in Platinum. The gen 6+ changes are the reduction in power (from 120 to 110), and various minor interactions like the in battle berry trees in Kalos and the contest interractions in ORAS.
edit: I didn't notice someone else had already said that.
Alolan Ninetales was so awesome when I discovered that combo too. Plus its pretty, one of the Pokémon I love to use every chance I get to this day.
Is it never miss like swift? I thought it was just swapped to 100% accuracy in hail/snow
What Gen 4!
At 22:00, what's really interesting, is that these nicknames DO actually exist in the games, and have a functional use. Some notable NPC pokemon, like Fantina, can be seen in Pokemon Contests at the master rank, which is really cool.
Fantina's Drifloon is named Loony, and the optional reporter and cameraman's Magneton is named Jolt. The Pokemon Center's Chansey is named Pinky, and your mother's Kangaskhan's named Jumpy. My favorite one of the bunch, though, is Jasmine from Johto can also show up, and her Steelix's name is Rusty, which I think is really cute.
17:01 the move set replaces Return with Heal Bell. I didn’t hear you talk about it. Loving the expansion into Gen 4!!!
Haha funny! Good catch.
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon fun Top 10 gen 4 sinnoh Easter eggs
1. Gardenia n team rockets James from gen 1 ARE COUSINS
2. Commander Mars is the daughter of Giovanni and gen 2s Arianna n is silvers older sister
3. Roark is the son of Byron another gym leader
4. Flint and volkner are best friends and they did the Pokémon journey 5 years before the main characters do it
5. The head of the battle tower is Barry's dad
6. The girl that gives you waterfall is olivine Jasmine and she is waiting for her boyfriend volkner
7. There is the infamous tentacruel glitch for speed running
8. You can cycling road glitch n through proper pathing can glitch to the literal end of the game
9. In the remakes in brilliant diamond shining pearl they NOT only fail to fix the original glitch, you can PC glitch in town 1 do inputs and be teleported to the end of the game YES YOU DONT need to do the journey catch Pokémon n beat the game in 3 minutes
10. I love the good Ole fashioned Cyrus MOTIVATIONAL SPEECH he could have been a ceo, a spokesperson or a politician lol
It also happened with Bite before Jupiter and it was shown as Acid l
Overlay looking clean. Great job on production! The Raichu Gyarados double battle almost ended my blind hardcore nuzlocke. It’s way harder than the surrounding battles. I foresee those trainers getting custom art.
I feel like 90% of pokemon will just want to dodge those two. They’re so strong for the point on the game they’re at!
What a great christmas gift this run is! I’ll admit I’m a little surprised this isn’t a butterfree test run, but I won’t turn down a torterra run!
you could make the argument that technically Butterfree is a post-game exclusive (Caterpie being obtainable with the "dongle method") so it can't be done due to dex-limitations
annoyingly so is Venonat (obtainable via PokeRadar which is another national dex thing), so can't even have the unofficial mascot either
thematically that sounds better than just "ehh, needed more experience first"
The reason the NPC approaches to hand over the fashion case is because he watches you battle and is impressed by your skill. I get this is frustrating, especially since you’ll be dealing with this guy every single run, but if this event didn’t occur a lot of kids would just completely miss that item.
Merry Christmas everyone! And thank you Scott for all the awesome content and looking forward to more gen 4!
Hey Scott! You’ve made the last year of my life a bit brighter through your videos. I’ve fallen in love with Pokemon once again! May you have an optimized 2024 with great RNG luck!
Also, Venomoth is a Dragon/Electric type.
Wonderful to see you starting the Platinum series. I do think this is where Pokemon really starts challenging the player and the solo run becomes more difficult. You start seeing it in Gen 3 but by Gen 4 it seems like times will get longer simply because the game always has a new punch to throw. I do expect Infernape to do tremendously well as Gen 4-5 is also when Fighting finishes its arc from "The worst type" to "Probably the best type you can ask for." Gen 3 you started seeing it with Medicham and Hariyama, but oh boy Gen 4 and 5.
what an awesome christmas gift!! a whole new generation! i'm so excited to see how it goes! piplup is my favorite pokémon, so i'm so ready to see it whenever those playthroughs come out!
We’re actually in the timeline where Scott’s tackling the gen4 games -and I’m all for it!
Pearl was my introduction to the series. I found its atmosphere to be so sublime.
Torterra is my favorite pokemon of all time so I consider this video a personal Christmas gift. Thank you Scott.
Watching this channel grow over the years has been an absolute pleasure.
I can't wait until 2-3 years from now when we can look back at this run and cringe at things we don't even notice right now!
Love the gym leader animations.
A couple tips from my own solo running experience:
My HM user routing is to catch a Bidoof on 202 for Rock Smash and Cut, Bibarel on 208 (in front of Hearthome) for Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and the eventual Water moves, and Tropius in the northern Safari Zone for the remainder, ditching Bidoof ASAP assuming you don't want any optional items. Then you're left with only two extra party members, saving time at every Center heal. The Tropius should be leveled high enough that it won't waste time leveling during the mandatory double battles. The downside is that you need to play at day to consistently find them. Bibarel can be hard to catch with Poke Balls and will eventually wreck you with Rollout, so get the Net Ball in Eterna Forest and Great Ball on 208, and save before looking for it. Tropius in Safari Zone isn't as bad as it might sound, it's pretty easy to catch and you want to go up there for the hidden Rare Candy anyway.
While you're in the Chateau, grab the Ether outside and the Substitute TM inside. Sub counters Fantina.
The Rock Polish TM is in the room at 38:10, also behind Strength. It lets some strong but slow mineral Pokemon sweep at lower levels without Quck Claw luck. My Rock Polish / Swords Dance / Earthquake / Rock Slide Torterra beat the game somewhere in the 70s.
Consider banning Return until last resort, it homogenizes Pokemon with weaker movesets and often finds its way onto even good Pokemon.
Wow, what a Xmas gift. First ever Gen 4 playthrough! And coming from the best ever Solo Challenge PokeTuber. Cant wait for you to start jumping into all the new Gen 4 mechanics like the Physical/Special Split, better items and better movesets available to Pokémon. Keep up the good work Scott You’re a legend!
And happy holidays.
This is a late post compared to when I watched it. But I'm so happy your first Platinum video was with Torterra-line. Turtwig is favorite starter from Gen 4, and my favorite grass type starter out of all 9 of them. It was really exciting to watch and see. Definitely one of my favorite videos of yours!
Merry Christmas Scott!
I just wanted to say thanks for all the incredible work you do on your channel.
Your hard work this month has been noticed and appreciated.
Thank you! Merry Christmas/happy holidays to you and your Wife!
With these gen 4 videos I would really like hearing what you think of the gen 4 pokemon designs especially for an evolutionary lines. I'm also super excited to see gen 4 solo runs, let's go!
hi scott! ive been so excited for gen 4 runs (gen 4 was the first generation that introduced me to pokemon), thank you so much for all the effort you put in to these videos
When I was a kid I only played gens 2 and 3. I've gotten to experience the games I never got to play as a kid through your videos and it's been great. I've ended up watching a video a day for around 7 months. Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas.
I like that Scott! I've had an nostalgia of playing pokemon again watching your videos and playing with my favourite pokemon
Merry Christmas, and thank you for the gift of great entertainment over the years.
A fantastic Christmas Gift! I love the Sinnoh games, since they were really the first Pokemon games I was able to play since my mum didn't like me playing video games.
It also holds a special place in my heart because someone saw me playing it at school, and gave me the Manaphy egg with the condition I touch trade it back so she could get the Dex entry. Manaphy became one of my fave Pokemon since then.
I really look forward to the future Sinnoh playthroughs you do, and I hope you have a lot of fun with them!
Just in case we get more Hail Blizzard resets in gen 6, they didn't remove that interaction ever. They just lowered Blizzard's base power like all the other special 120 moves. I was so sad for Torterra when you put it through that haha
Looking forward to this new series. It actually makes me want to replay Platinum too now.
Merry Christmas, Scott, Mrs. Thoughts, editors, animators, coders, racers, the whole channel community, and the cats ♥
Agreed.
Also, what happened to the rest of the song? I could've sworn there was a comment somewhere that continued what was left off the legendary birds race yesterday...
Very excited that you have a series going in 5 different games, Scott! It always feel so fresh to see videos produced across the different games, and it is a thrill every time you start a series in a new game!
Hoping you enjoy your well-deserved month off from produced videos in January and looking forward to catching some of your streams!
The fire type Elite 4 member having Drifblim makes sense since hot air balloon, and Steelix is an Onix that evolved through pressure and heat (according to the Pokedex). As for Lopunny *cough*.
This honestly made me very happy to see, given Gen 4 was my entry to the franchise and Turtwig was my very first starter.
And a fun fact about Barry, given your description of him being competent and tough. In a rematch with him after a certain number of Hall of Fame entries in Platinum, his ace is Level 85. It made him the strongest trainer in the franchise until HGSS came out and had its version of Red with a Level 88. He currently places as the third strongest trainer in the franchise (behind Red in HGSS and Cynthia in BDSP, both with Level 88 aces).
Currently doing a solo Torterra run on my childhood copy of Diamond and getting ready to face the Steel gym. My current moveset is Earthquake, Crunch, Giga Drain and Curse. Thanks again for doing these kinds of videos. You've really inspired me to try these for myself!
Your willingness to point out your mistakes shows how humble a person you are and I respect that! 👍
It was interesting to learn more about your experience at the start of the episode. I feel it helped with introducing this generation. May this one have all the success in the world.
Damn im actually pumped for this gen. Looking forward to all the content
What a Christmas present I can't wait to see what generation 4 has in store, I'm so excited to see this series grow thanks Scott you're the best😊
Enjoy your break dude!
Now THIS is a Christmas present. Merry Christmas Scott!
Was bout to catch the infernape run that just dropped then remembered i saw this, so here we go. Goat w/ how much content you’ve been pushing out. Enjoy the break you have planned, Happy New Years!
My favourite game! Thank you for your continued content Scott, you’re awesome!
Merry Christmas, Scott! Have so appreciated all your content this year and look forward to the next!
Very excited to see the learning process on a new game! Merry Christmas to you and yours, Scott.
Lets go Platinum! Thank u for another incredible year and happy holidays Scott!
Merry Christmas! I also appreciate the little sheet music of the jeopardy theme, was a good touch.
YESSS I love Torterra, it's one of my favorite starters :) Very excited to see you cover the rest of Sinnoh!
OMGosh, I was expecting this but it still surprised me! You've really branched out a ton. I remember watching you when the crystal videos were still rare
Merry Christmas Scott, and thanks us for giving us Gen 4 as a present!
I was eager to see it in play after the various teases on your Twitter page.
A bit in, and the Gym Leader intros are top notch here, i loved the nice touch of Cherrim changing form between the shaded and unshaded part of the animation.
I love the extra info on the overlay. Keep up the great work, Scott.
My favorite RUclipsr playing my favorite starter on Christmas :D what a gift!
*Pre-watch* Oh boy. Inspired by you, I tried my luck with solo running for the first time a while back, also with Torterra in Platinum as it seemed like an obvious place to start.
I spent hours in planning, and figuring out what TMs and held items were available at what points in the game. I had a blast. Until I started playing.
Candice was a menace, but in general the whole run felt brutal. Torterra is slow, lots of Pokemon have coverage moves, and the AI is smarter. I can't remember nor access my final time just now, but I put solo running in gen 4 on hold after that attempt, that's how deflated I was 😄
Looking forward to seeing what you came up with!
I was 100% sure it was going to be Butterfree first, but who cares it's still pokemon platinum!!!! The first game with the physical special split (if you ignore dimaond & pearl) , and I also can't wait to see how you will use the free choice specs in the future
Awesome seeing you branch to different gens. Good luck learning thr routes for the games
Man I gotta say I do love the overlay, it looks extraordinarily clean. And I think leaving out the bottom screen is good, makes it look neater and like you said all the information is listed somewhere else so I think we're fine not seeing it. I'm excited to see where we go with this!
53:43
I remember learning about damage ranges from Cynthia as a kid because my Torterra's earthquake had to max roll twice in a row to 2HKO her Spiritomb, and my stubborn butt preferred resetting for hours instead of blacking out and training. Thanks for the nostalgia Scott, from RBY to DPPT.
This gen is so nostalgic. So excited to see you play Scott
Now this is a Christmas gift, my favourite Pokémon! Thanks, Scott!
5:55 Gen 4 music is fantastic overall but Barry's theme is so good.
Glad to see you in one of my favorite Gens.
wow i cannot believe how happy i am that you’ve started doing gen 4 runs. gen 4 has a very special place in my heart. i’m finding myself having a hard time listening to you because i’m too busy vibing to gen 4’s amazing music.
i’m also having a weird time watching this video because when i first played this game when i was younger, turtwig was my starter and i did the classic kid thing where you use an over leveled starter with a legendary or two with some 20 level lower scrubs on your team. i remember struggling in so many areas where you struggled. I’ll never forget feeling all confident at crasher wake and getting Ice Fang-ed. i still absolutely adore torterra tho ❤️ i’m so happy he gets to be the debut pokémon for your gen 4 runs
I love Torterra too! It’s one of my favorite starters.
Best Christmas present ever, I've been excited to see this ever since you teased it on Twitter
Been watching you for a while now I’m really excited for this gen
Thank you for this amazing Christmas gift. Merry Christmas 🎅 Scott!!!
I KNEW IT, i knew the video today would be Platinum's first.
Glad to see this Scott, I'm excited to see more in the future
Ayoo, my favourite game, and my favourite ever pokemon. I can't wait! Merry christmas Scott!
I’m pumped to see you explore another gen. Merry Christmas, Scott
Your videos are great because they show a side of Pokemon besides the competitive meta-analysis, It's always rather cool to see a side where Pokemon that are not gamebreaking in the PvP side end up being great at the actual game itself. Gen 4 was when I returned to pokemon, I had the same "Pokemon is for kids" phase in Gen 3 and 4 was a return to it as a teenager with more cash and less social pressure, with Turtwig being my favourite starter. It's cool seeing you branch out to these games and I hope you do more in the future! You're great!
At 52:50 the alakazam has harden and then it changes to recover
Also in the old chateau on the 2nd floor in one of the room you can get the TM for substitute but I think it might be broken.
And another tip for Candice is to change the weather with moves like sunny day (Found on route 212) to make Blizzard 50% accuracy
"The most important thing to see in these videos, my PP"
- Scott's Thoughts, 2023
"I did not expect this random battle to be difficult"
Perfectly summarizes gen 4 runs.
OMG!! I new it however i was predicting it will be the last video of the year, finally special-physical split games are here!!! THX Santa 😁
i didnt even realize there was a second screen missing until scott pointed it out. i think the layout looks great. cant wait to see more in this series
So excited to see Gen 4!! Having also grown up with pokemon Gen 4 was special for me because I was starting to get old enough to understand the mechanics and started to have balanced teams 😂
Love your content Scott, and your dedication to your craft shows. I always have one of your videos playing as I'm doing stuff around the house. My daughter is 3 months old but with how often we watch/listen to your videos I think she'll be a pro when she's 6 years old lol
The day has come when I won't wholly binge-watch some of your videos, as I've been on hiatus with Platinum for yeeears, about halfway through the Gym Challenge. Maybe this'll finally kick me back in gear for it and Black 2...
YOU ARE SO AWESOME!!! Thank you for all the video's through out the year.
YES GEN 4 LETS GO!!! Scott you are a real one for this! Enjoy your holiday and rest up wel! My god you have earnt it brother! ❤❤❤
Been taking a break from the content - wanting to come back to it - so glad you're on to platinum
oh man this has been a long time coming, glad to see we’re here
Your overlay looks great. I'm so happy to see you playing in the 4th Gen! Merry Christmas and here's to a Platinum new year!
I'm pretty excited with this new series Scott! Actually I didn't have access to pokemon platinum when it was launched, just like you, and my parents would never buy me this gameboy and the game to play, cause just like you said they would say it is just child stuff, what is quite frustrating. Now I am able to know this game better Scott, thanks to you and your team! Now I am able to enjoyed what I didn't have in my teens, though I wanted so much to have back then... Maybe I will start playing too, I really like this generation, well let's see. But what I know for certain is that I'm gonna enjoy every single challenge you do in this generation from now on. Thank you so much. Have a nice week!
Oh yes, this is so awesome, so glad you're finally four generations deep, so many Mons!
Merry xmas everyone?!?!?! Thanks so much Scott 🎉🎉
Thanks for all your hard work, Scott. I hope you have a restful and safe holiday.
So excited to see you cover Gen 4!!!! 😊
For New years, Scott will bless us with a Bidoof playthrough 😇 the most legendary of all Pokemon
My favorite mon in my favorite game, im genuinely so excited and completely caught off guard, though itd be a while before you played platinum
I think the freeze status is the worst one because you get the freeze, then they are able to just thaw out immediately. I think it should work like sleep where you get at least one turn of it staying frozen.
Appreciate you and your work Scott
Great work as always scott. Never played gen 4 but it looks like there are some interestint battles and strategies.
However, another generation with Return on every run… yey… it‘s such a strong move that‘s learned by almost every pokemon, so i think it makes the run less interesting.
The new overlay is great btw.
Keep up the great work & enjoy a little rest in january you deserve it :)
You will have to wait until Gen 8 for him not to use Return because by then Return is removed as a TM.
Earthquake is going to be so important in this game for pokemon that can learn it I’d imagine since it’s available so early. Very hyped for this series you’re amazing Scott thanks for all the great content!!
Torterra gets it super early naturally.
@@ShiningJudgment666 true but you can get the tm really early as well for if pokemon don’t get it naturally and it’s still such a good move in dpp
I love seeing little glimpses into your setup, like things going wrong in early uses of an overlay. I agree with your decision to exclude the secondary screen - it's useful in gameplay but kind of just an extraneous distraction against the overlay.
Overall things are looking very clean. :) I'm excited to see more Platinum going forward.
So excited to see you breaking into a whole new generation.
Hey Scott, Marry Christmas and thank you, i love gen 4 can't wait to watch this games!
still watching the video so not sure if you mention the history behind the name being TWIG, but i have to say thank you for the giant wave of nostalgia that it hit me with. thats the exact same name i gave my turtwig back in diamond, thats still stomping around my files today! if for nothing else, thanks for reminding me of my first starter. love the content, and i'm super excited to see you tackle gen 4!
Didn't think we were gonna get gen 4 this year! What a great Christmas gift for us all
Amazing! You always do fantastic jobs!
Nice one! Good overlay, not too cluttered. Definitely did not miss the second screen. Some minor bugs / glitches for us viewers, but that's all good. Didn't know there where that many differences between gen 3 and 4. Turns out my knowledge of pokemon games is centered around earlier gens.. Fun to learn new things about gen 4 :)
This is the best Christmas gift thanks Scott
I don't know if you know, since it's not in the move set list on the screen, but there are actually a lot of awesome move tutors in platinum that take colored shards. You should check them out. :) Also, so happy to see you start Platinum runs.
I'm so happy you're playing gen 4, my favorite gen!
Scott, don't worry about the glitches in the software, we all know how you do you put all your efforts to make it smooth. Love you're content dude!
Oh man. A Christmas miracle, there’s a pet project I do on the side that involves checking out the post-game Gym, Elite Four, and Rival rematches for both this and HGSS. I’d absolutely love to see you take those on with the overlay in between these solo runs.