These guys are such a deep rabbit hole. The first number of listens are very difficult l. Your brain doesn't know what to do. Think of it as very intense downtuned jazz and the vocals as another percussion instrument. Once your ears get acclimated. The layers start to unfold. That's where it gets really fun. Addicting almost Highly recommend checking their drum playthrough for clockworks. Pravus live is also incredible
I had the same problem when I started listening to Meshuggah. Think of Jens vocals as an instrument that plays in to the rhythm of the music and once you get attuned to it you will never be able to listen to mumbling metal growls ever again. His voice is pure and unadulterated energy/power and . I recommend that you read the lyrics as you listen because they are nothing short of poetic. His choice of words is incredible and it paints a vivid images of what he describes or sings about. I hope you do some more meshuggah and always check lyrics because they are crazy.
This guys are legendary, a lot of albums, a lot of technicality and an entire genre/sound invented, they are basically the creator of the "djent" genre, and it's odd af i know but it's an adquired taste
@@PZMaTTy I have heard that these guys were the "OG's" so im really excited to come back to them and take another listen! Thanks for the Support and Double comment!
Fuck yeah!!! First Gojira, now The Big M!? Fuck yeah brother. These guys, like Gojira, have been around for decades. They "created" Djent (they didn't outright do it on purpose). I'm here for this!
Meshuggah and Gojira don't sound similer. Both bands just have a unique sound that doesn't sound like other bands, that's why you're drawing a connection between them
It took Thomas 5 months to get the pattern down on the drums. You need to watch the drum cam live version to get a better appreciation of what's actually going on. The riff changed every verse but you didn't notice that by sounds of it. Also Meshuggah didnt care about vocals till the last few albums, they spent little time perfecting them.
Jens doesn’t do anything crazy with his vocals anymore, he just extends the syllables to match the riffs and drums. He’s more experimental and raps on some tracks on Chaosphere. Neurotica is rap metal at it’s finest.
Hello from New England...Oh yeah now we're getting it down...A MUST listen song is FUTURE BREED MACHINE..What a way to get the morning going..Btw the singer, although he doesn't play any instruments live, he's a highly schooled musician with deep knowledge of theory and arranging that the usual frontman don't possess..🤘✌️👍
Aye Brian! I'll add future to the list! Glad I could Kickstart your morning! Another great comment from you and as always thankyou for the Support Brian!
Back in the 91/92 days, Jens used to play rhythm guitar while singing during their concerts. After Marten joined in 93, he stopped playing rhythm guitar.
Very tough band to get into, but once you get them you find out how amazing they are. I suggest the whole Catch Thirtythree album with your hands on the lyrics
Very different sound than what I'm used to for sure, but very excited to come back to them! I may do a lyric video next time though! Thanks for the Support!
This is a common theme regarding the first / second half. Meshuggah’s first half is just setting you up for a wild ride in the second half. Coincidentally you chose arguably Meshuggah’s greatest track of all time. That being Dancers. It’s also a more advanced Meshuggah track, not one you’d like to start off with. But you had no trouble understanding it, and yes the solo is one of the greatest of all time. It’s jazz inspired. Great reaction, and side note you listened to the wrong version of bleed. The music video is shortened and not good tbh. The official bleed on their album is without question the one you should hear. 👍👍
@@DaddyGoose_CB So, I'm a huge Meshuggah fan, but I really don't think Bleed is remotely close to one of their best songs. It's just really extreme, so ppl react to it. You wanna try something good, try Clockworks, Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave it Motion, Colossus, or Don't Look Down. Most of Meshuggah is pretty groovy, but the stuff on Obzen was intentionally going for a mechanical vibe.
@@mishterpreshident I believe most of these are on the list, but I will add the ones that arnt! I'm excited to hear more of their sound and figure them out more! Thanks for the suggestions and great comment!
New millennium cyanide christ and future breed machine are must listens, they are older mesh songs but both really heavy and crazy. Jens has the craziest and most uniek vocals on those songs. They are also older, future breed machine is from 1995 and new millennium cyanide christ from 1998.
Bleed is an iconic song. It's drumming is what I think you were referring to as a riff. It's a song where you watch the drummer go your gonna lose your mind. Do some more gojira like flying whales and heaviest matter of the universe!
I'm learning that the drummer for this band is a legend! Definitely going to listen to more Gojira aswell! I added both these songs to the list, Thanks for the Support!
Gojira is pretty heavily influenced by Meshuggah, so is Periphery! Bleed was more of an exercise of technicality and endurance than a legit song, compared to their other songs. But they do really love to draw things out and make the listener feel as uncomfortable as possible, and then they drop the heaviest shit of all time right on your chest (in a good way? errr..) right when you feel like you can't take it anymore.
Subbing. First Gojira and then Meshuggah. Two of my favorites. Since you are on this path, I really want to see what you think of VildhJartA Dagger Heartsmear You'll hear the Gojira and Meshuggah without a doubt, but they are their own entity and pretty much kicked off an entire sub-genre of djent called Thall. Something that you have to know about Meshuggah, is that you probably have to digest their music in reverse of what you listen to most other music. A lot of bands are listened from the vocalist inward. Meshuggah's biggest thing is, Thomas Haake, is considered by many to be the best drummer there is. The best way to listen to Meshuggah is from the drummer out, and probably the very best example of how to do that would be to check out Clockworks:. Thomas Haake drum playthrough It takes a while, but they are an acquired taste. It took me years, and about the fifth time that I heard them, was when I finally latched onto them, and that even included Jens voice.
Oh man.. you think Jen’s Kidman the vocalist doesn’t try when he screams 😂 I wish I could show you a clip of him screaming his ass off in the making of the album chaosphere! Dude is a machine and one of the best in the biz
@@bigfannypack I gotchu ill look it up! Also like I said if you can scream even a little bit it's super talented! I know I cant do it worth a dam haha Thanks for the Support!
You probably didnt like it because it was your first time listening to it. The bleed music video really takes away from the music in my opinion but it just takes a few listens to follow along. These were two good choices though. I love that opening "breakdown" on dancers to a discordant system.
Gojira and Meshuggah both have some of the best drumming in modern metal, not surprised you drew the comparison immediately. Meshuggah kicks some serious ass
I agree, the singer has a very repetitive style ending in a same sort of overtone. I think without te distracting voice the instrumentals are very digestable. The 'rhythm section' is awesome (that bass). Time for the more melodic, progressive and stylish Opeth.
It's reassuring that I'm not the only one who thought this, I thought it may have been too big of a hot take haha Thanks for the Support as always WJL!
You had a good take on his vocals - Jens is actually a very quiet and reserved fellow, but when he just speaks at room volume, the texture/quality of his voice is so booming, he really only let's it out when he's on stage The band programs his vocals as a precession instrument This song is a bad example of everything they do, despite being the most popular
The vocals are set to be percussive, so they may be hard to understand, because words are broken into syllables and arranged to the structure - once you FEEL the 4/4 and read the lyrics they align really well - Jens isn't a harmonic singer, but they but in TIME, to make the lyrics map to the rhythm, and happily sacrifice conversational flow - that's what makes it a trick to the ear
@@magusmelanie828 great comment! I am of understanding that this band is for the instrumental side of things, not so much vocals. Thanks for the Support!
Someone told me about this and I did actually go and listen to it ( on my own time ) wish I would have had the full thing on reaction! Thanks for the Support!
I know this was from awhile ago and you've already done another reaction to Meshuggah since, but you might find some success reacting to their songs ObZen (from the album of the same name), and Demiurge. These ones are varied enough in riff, and Jens' vocals are a bit easier to understand on first listen. Could help you get a better foothold into them. I'll be honest though, the first time I heard Meshuggah I didn't like them at all. They're so intimidating it felt like trying to chew a whole box of Milk Duds at once 😂I also have a really hard time hearing lyrics (even regular clean ones), so I have to read along to get the meat of it. Meshuggah's lyrics are really intricate too, just like the rest of it. What could be said in a sentence is stretched across entire stanzas. But one day I heard some of their older stuff, and it just started to grow on me until I couldn't get enough. And now hardly anything hits quite like Meshuggah does.
I find with meshuggah, im liking their riffs more and more but still can't get into his vocals. But maybe it will click for me to one day haha Thanks for the Support! P.S that milk dud line went hard 😂
@@DaddyGoose_CB I had that too. As someone who doesn't know music theory or how to play any instruments, vocals are what i relate to the most in a lot of music. So Jens was hard to get into. Once I learned to hear the words in a couple of their songs it clicked more though. My personal favorite lately has been 'The Demon's Name is Surveillance" off their album Koloss.
When you said you had a hard time understanding the lyrics, one reason for that might well be the fact that they are Swedish, and English is not their first language. So the singer's pronunciation is often a bit unnatural.
@@DaddyGoose_CB also funny how your gripe with the song was that the riff didn't change at all, when it is actually becoming more chaotic and unpredictable right before the end. appreciate the honesty though, and i can very much understand your opinions.
@@mayonice3577 I noticed the change in dancers at the end, but bleed was really tuff. Changes were very subtle (in my opinon), but ill give it another listen on my own time! Thanks for the great comments! Hope you enjoyed the ep!
I wasnt aware that there was I different version but I did go back and listen to it during a livestream awhile ago! Great guitar in it! Thanks for the Support!
passing preferences and such as objective truths is corny as fuck, if you have a style and opinion, just say that, but it seems some people just cant escape judging a song by not only assuming you are familiar with the writers' intentions but by constantly comparing to other works, *not* for the sake of perspective or to better illustrate a point but because they want the song to sound like what they want dont confuse your feelings and inexperience with the value or characteristics of a song theres never an issue when theyre just not feeling it but then they decide that because the writing isnt piss easy or similar to what they like, its objectively lacking, and that they need to work on their methods of expression like ppl who play games for the first time and say it has no depth of mechanics or skills, no options or variety, because its not like the games they like, but they just dont know how to play you can give opinion, but if you dont know then you dont know this goes for many other ppl, even moreso than this guy, but if youre allowed to say that something is weak because you dont perfer it, then i can say you're ignorant because i dont prefer these kinds people
I think this band is really talented and think it's awesome that the community sees them as the OG band! Just not my cup of tea! Also just expressing my opinion as I give 100% honesty on my channel! Sorry this wasn't the reaction for you hope you can enjoy my other reactions. Either way I respect your comment and Thankyou for checking out the Channel and leaving your thoughts!
Vocals are an instrument first. If you’re dependent on understanding lyrics; what you’re looking for is poetry, not metal. Try hip-hop, pop, or R & B. Meshuggah is best enjoyed by musicians. Also, your ‘repetitiveness’ is ‘sitting in the pocket of groove’.
@@DaddyGoose_CB Meshuggah isn't a one listen kind of band. You will have to put in some hours of study to "get" the songs. They rarely have songs that grab you on the first listen in my opinion. I gave them a try years ago and couldn't understand what people were so enthralled with. Now I get it. Listen to the album version of "Bleed" b/c the music video actually cuts it short. "Lethargica" is my favorite of the ObZen album. Its really slow and heavy with the nastiest breakdown I've ever heard.
I LOVE Meshuggah. They are definitely an acquired taste but those of us who love em, really support them.
I'm hoping to acquire this taste haha Thanks for being a top commentor Lisa! As always Thanks for the Support
The ending of Dancers to a Discordant System is so beautiful and powerful
The ending really was great, amazing turn around for the song! Thanks for the Support!
These guys are such a deep rabbit hole. The first number of listens are very difficult l. Your brain doesn't know what to do. Think of it as very intense downtuned jazz and the vocals as another percussion instrument. Once your ears get acclimated. The layers start to unfold. That's where it gets really fun. Addicting almost
Highly recommend checking their drum playthrough for clockworks. Pravus live is also incredible
Great comment! I'll add them to the list, down the rabbit hole I go! Thanks for the Support!
I had the same problem when I started listening to Meshuggah. Think of Jens vocals as an instrument that plays in to the rhythm of the music and once you get attuned to it you will never be able to listen to mumbling metal growls ever again. His voice is pure and unadulterated energy/power and . I recommend that you read the lyrics as you listen because they are nothing short of poetic. His choice of words is incredible and it paints a vivid images of what he describes or sings about. I hope you do some more meshuggah and always check lyrics because they are crazy.
I'll definitely have to check out the lyrics! Thanks for the idea and Support! I'll definitely be coming back to them as well!
Correction;
Gojira reminds you of Meshuggah.
They started in 1987, and their first album was 1991.
haha good correction, Thanks for the Support!
this one's headbanging in time, he's a natural!
How could someone not headbang haha Thanks for the Support!
This guys are legendary, a lot of albums, a lot of technicality and an entire genre/sound invented, they are basically the creator of the "djent" genre, and it's odd af i know but it's an adquired taste
btw, this band is like a crazy rhythmic experiment, the more you hear it the more you understand it, just odd time signatures all around
@@PZMaTTy I have heard that these guys were the "OG's" so im really excited to come back to them and take another listen! Thanks for the Support and Double comment!
All of Meshuggah songs are 4/4, the polyrhythms are all messed up giving the illusion its an odd time signature.
@@tholmesy26 the illusion was very effective haha Thanks for the Support!
Fuck yeah!!! First Gojira, now The Big M!? Fuck yeah brother. These guys, like Gojira, have been around for decades. They "created" Djent (they didn't outright do it on purpose). I'm here for this!
That moment you make a genre on accident lmao Thanks for the Support, glad to hear you enjoyed the Ep!
Meshuggah and Gojira don't sound similer. Both bands just have a unique sound that doesn't sound like other bands, that's why you're drawing a connection between them
Your not wrong there, maybe you right. Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB 2/3 of my favorite band with SOAD
Explore both worlds you’ll see by yourself why they are already apart from others :)
@@mlk_ix2831 SOAD is so good!
It took Thomas 5 months to get the pattern down on the drums. You need to watch the drum cam live version to get a better appreciation of what's actually going on. The riff changed every verse but you didn't notice that by sounds of it. Also Meshuggah didnt care about vocals till the last few albums, they spent little time perfecting them.
Aye double comment! I couldn't even imagine drumming this haha
Jens doesn’t do anything crazy with his vocals anymore, he just extends the syllables to match the riffs and drums. He’s more experimental and raps on some tracks on Chaosphere. Neurotica is rap metal at it’s finest.
This guy raps in songs too!? Dayum gunna have to check that out! Thanks for the Support!
Music fans going blindly into Meshuggah is always entertainment
Aye glad you liked today's ep! Thanks for the Support!
Hello from New England...Oh yeah now we're getting it down...A MUST listen song is FUTURE BREED MACHINE..What a way to get the morning going..Btw the singer, although he doesn't play any instruments live, he's a highly schooled musician with deep knowledge of theory and arranging that the usual frontman don't possess..🤘✌️👍
Aye Brian! I'll add future to the list! Glad I could Kickstart your morning! Another great comment from you and as always thankyou for the Support Brian!
@@DaddyGoose_CBnp problem brother.. you got the right vibe and energy so keep on keeping on 👍✌️🤘
Back in the 91/92 days, Jens used to play rhythm guitar while singing during their concerts. After Marten joined in 93, he stopped playing rhythm guitar.
@@im_in_immense_pain clutch info comment! Thanks for the Support!
Very tough band to get into, but once you get them you find out how amazing they are. I suggest the whole Catch Thirtythree album with your hands on the lyrics
Very different sound than what I'm used to for sure, but very excited to come back to them! I may do a lyric video next time though! Thanks for the Support!
This is a common theme regarding the first / second half. Meshuggah’s first half is just setting you up for a wild ride in the second half.
Coincidentally you chose arguably Meshuggah’s greatest track of all time. That being Dancers. It’s also a more advanced Meshuggah track, not one you’d like to start off with. But you had no trouble understanding it, and yes the solo is one of the greatest of all time. It’s jazz inspired.
Great reaction, and side note you listened to the wrong version of bleed. The music video is shortened and not good tbh. The official bleed on their album is without question the one you should hear.
👍👍
Aye glad you liked the reaction! I can definitely see how they build up for the 2nd half! Great Comment and Thankyou for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB Awesome 😎 do some more Shuggah 👍👍
Him --> "I have no idea what I'm getting into here..."
Me --> Laughing out loud in anticipation
Lmao, I feel like I'm never gunna know when it comes to meshuggah but im excited to react to them again! Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB So, I'm a huge Meshuggah fan, but I really don't think Bleed is remotely close to one of their best songs. It's just really extreme, so ppl react to it. You wanna try something good, try Clockworks, Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave it Motion, Colossus, or Don't Look Down. Most of Meshuggah is pretty groovy, but the stuff on Obzen was intentionally going for a mechanical vibe.
@@mishterpreshident I believe most of these are on the list, but I will add the ones that arnt! I'm excited to hear more of their sound and figure them out more! Thanks for the suggestions and great comment!
New millennium cyanide christ and future breed machine are must listens, they are older mesh songs but both really heavy and crazy. Jens has the craziest and most uniek vocals on those songs. They are also older, future breed machine is from 1995 and new millennium cyanide christ from 1998.
Oldies but goldies I take it then haha I'll add em to the list, Thanks for the Support!
Bleed is an iconic song. It's drumming is what I think you were referring to as a riff. It's a song where you watch the drummer go your gonna lose your mind.
Do some more gojira like flying whales and heaviest matter of the universe!
I'm learning that the drummer for this band is a legend! Definitely going to listen to more Gojira aswell! I added both these songs to the list, Thanks for the Support!
"We believe, so we're misled
We assume, so we're played
We confide, so we're deceived
We trust, so we're betrayed"
just beautiful
That hits hard
Gojira is pretty heavily influenced by Meshuggah, so is Periphery!
Bleed was more of an exercise of technicality and endurance than a legit song, compared to their other songs. But they do really love to draw things out and make the listener feel as uncomfortable as possible, and then they drop the heaviest shit of all time right on your chest (in a good way? errr..) right when you feel like you can't take it anymore.
It's definitely different that's for sure haha Thanks for checking out a couple different ep.s!
He's actually hitting the right note every single time, and is amazing at drawing tones out, as is Thom Yorke of Radiohead
Its honestly very impressive! Thanks for the Support!
Subbing. First Gojira and then Meshuggah. Two of my favorites. Since you are on this path, I really want to see what you think of VildhJartA
Dagger
Heartsmear
You'll hear the Gojira and Meshuggah without a doubt, but they are their own entity and pretty much kicked off an entire sub-genre of djent called Thall.
Something that you have to know about Meshuggah, is that you probably have to digest their music in reverse of what you listen to most other music. A lot of bands are listened from the vocalist inward. Meshuggah's biggest thing is, Thomas Haake, is considered by many to be the best drummer there is. The best way to listen to Meshuggah is from the drummer out, and probably the very best example of how to do that would be to check out
Clockworks:. Thomas Haake drum playthrough
It takes a while, but they are an acquired taste. It took me years, and about the fifth time that I heard them, was when I finally latched onto them, and that even included Jens voice.
Vildhjarta is on the list! But I will add heartsmear onto it! Thanks for the Support!
It's a fantastic guitar solo!
Guy is nuts on the guitar! Thanks for the Support!
Hell yeah man
Yes sir! Glad to hear you enjoyed the ep! Thanks for the Support!
Oh man.. you think Jen’s Kidman the vocalist doesn’t try when he screams 😂 I wish I could show you a clip of him screaming his ass off in the making of the album chaosphere! Dude is a machine and one of the best in the biz
Literally search Jen’s Kidman screams and you’ll find a clip of him on RUclips called amazing metal scream ( turn down the volume)
@@bigfannypack I gotchu ill look it up! Also like I said if you can scream even a little bit it's super talented! I know I cant do it worth a dam haha Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB haha well that makes two of us
You probably didnt like it because it was your first time listening to it. The bleed music video really takes away from the music in my opinion but it just takes a few listens to follow along. These were two good choices though. I love that opening "breakdown" on dancers to a discordant system.
I dont think there's a such thing as a bad breakdown haha Thanks for the Support hope you like the ep!
ohhhhhhhhh shit bois here we go
Gojira and Meshuggah both have some of the best drumming in modern metal, not surprised you drew the comparison immediately. Meshuggah kicks some serious ass
@@The_Wild_Healer they were very similar in sound, im excited to listen to these guys again just for the drummer haha Thanks wild Healer!
I agree, the singer has a very repetitive style ending in a same sort of overtone. I think without te distracting voice the instrumentals are very digestable. The 'rhythm section' is awesome (that bass). Time for the more melodic, progressive and stylish Opeth.
It's reassuring that I'm not the only one who thought this, I thought it may have been too big of a hot take haha Thanks for the Support as always WJL!
PRAVUS NEXT PLEASE, along with Pineap gland optics afterwards please
Ill add it to the List! Thanks for the Support!
You had a good take on his vocals - Jens is actually a very quiet and reserved fellow, but when he just speaks at room volume, the texture/quality of his voice is so booming, he really only let's it out when he's on stage
The band programs his vocals as a precession instrument
This song is a bad example of everything they do, despite being the most popular
The vocals are set to be percussive, so they may be hard to understand, because words are broken into syllables and arranged to the structure - once you FEEL the 4/4 and read the lyrics they align really well - Jens isn't a harmonic singer, but they but in TIME, to make the lyrics map to the rhythm, and happily sacrifice conversational flow - that's what makes it a trick to the ear
@@magusmelanie828 great comment! I am of understanding that this band is for the instrumental side of things, not so much vocals. Thanks for the Support!
You need to do the original version of "Bleed". Bc the guitar solo is very important. They cut it out on this 5 min version 😢
Someone told me about this and I did actually go and listen to it ( on my own time ) wish I would have had the full thing on reaction! Thanks for the Support!
Abysemel eye next, THERES A VIDEO FOR IT TOO
Aye, ill add it to the list. Thanks for the Support!
I know this was from awhile ago and you've already done another reaction to Meshuggah since, but you might find some success reacting to their songs ObZen (from the album of the same name), and Demiurge. These ones are varied enough in riff, and Jens' vocals are a bit easier to understand on first listen. Could help you get a better foothold into them.
I'll be honest though, the first time I heard Meshuggah I didn't like them at all. They're so intimidating it felt like trying to chew a whole box of Milk Duds at once 😂I also have a really hard time hearing lyrics (even regular clean ones), so I have to read along to get the meat of it. Meshuggah's lyrics are really intricate too, just like the rest of it. What could be said in a sentence is stretched across entire stanzas. But one day I heard some of their older stuff, and it just started to grow on me until I couldn't get enough. And now hardly anything hits quite like Meshuggah does.
I find with meshuggah, im liking their riffs more and more but still can't get into his vocals. But maybe it will click for me to one day haha Thanks for the Support! P.S that milk dud line went hard 😂
@@DaddyGoose_CB I had that too. As someone who doesn't know music theory or how to play any instruments, vocals are what i relate to the most in a lot of music. So Jens was hard to get into. Once I learned to hear the words in a couple of their songs it clicked more though. My personal favorite lately has been 'The Demon's Name is Surveillance" off their album Koloss.
Also their oldschool stuff is more dynamic and progressive
Cool to see old vs new!
Check out Meshuggah Pravus live from Tokyo! Best live performance ever recorded in my opinion. never seen a band with this much energy
Best live performance you say? Pretty bold haha I'll add it to the list!
When you said you had a hard time understanding the lyrics, one reason for that might well be the fact that they are Swedish, and English is not their first language. So the singer's pronunciation is often a bit unnatural.
Ah ok, that does make me feel a bit better haha Thanks for the Support!
i really wish you had listened to the album version of bleed. the music video cuts out three minutes of it.
Oh dayum, why such a big cut? 3 min is alot to just take out. Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB also funny how your gripe with the song was that the riff didn't change at all, when it is actually becoming more chaotic and unpredictable right before the end. appreciate the honesty though, and i can very much understand your opinions.
@@mayonice3577 I noticed the change in dancers at the end, but bleed was really tuff. Changes were very subtle (in my opinon), but ill give it another listen on my own time! Thanks for the great comments! Hope you enjoyed the ep!
Wish you'd chosen the album version of Bleed
I wasnt aware that there was I different version but I did go back and listen to it during a livestream awhile ago! Great guitar in it! Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB I wonder if you will be brave enough to check out I by Meshuggah
The 2022 album Immutable is amazing.
Check out "Phantoms" or "I am That Thirst"
Immutable by Meshuggah? Also triple comment lets go!
@@DaddyGoose_CB yeah it's my usual
passing preferences and such as objective truths is corny as fuck,
if you have a style and opinion, just say that, but it seems some people just cant escape judging a song by not only assuming you are familiar with the writers' intentions but by constantly comparing to other works, *not* for the sake of perspective or to better illustrate a point but because they want the song to sound like what they want
dont confuse your feelings and inexperience with the value or characteristics of a song
theres never an issue when theyre just not feeling it but then they decide that because the writing isnt piss easy or similar to what they like, its objectively lacking, and that they need to work on their methods of expression
like ppl who play games for the first time and say it has no depth of mechanics or skills, no options or variety, because its not like the games they like, but they just dont know how to play
you can give opinion, but if you dont know then you dont know
this goes for many other ppl, even moreso than this guy, but if youre allowed to say that something is weak because you dont perfer it, then i can say you're ignorant because i dont prefer these kinds people
I think this band is really talented and think it's awesome that the community sees them as the OG band! Just not my cup of tea! Also just expressing my opinion as I give 100% honesty on my channel! Sorry this wasn't the reaction for you hope you can enjoy my other reactions. Either way I respect your comment and Thankyou for checking out the Channel and leaving your thoughts!
You gotta do the Lorna Shore Pain Remains 1-3 saga
Lorna shore heeeeavy heavy but ill give er another go, ill put it on the list! Thanks for the Support!
Dude do the fucking lyrics version. Do it!
May have to check out a lyric version next time a do meshuggah! Thanks for the Support!
Vocals are an instrument first. If you’re dependent on understanding lyrics; what you’re looking for is poetry, not metal.
Try hip-hop, pop, or R & B.
Meshuggah is best enjoyed by musicians. Also, your ‘repetitiveness’ is ‘sitting in the pocket of groove’.
Feel like I just have to listen to more meshuggah and get a better understanding of them! Very excited to react to them again! Thanks for the Support!
If you think the riffs repeat in Bleed then you aren't actually listening.
I think I was a tad distracted by the music video which didn't help haha Thanks for the Support!
@@DaddyGoose_CB Meshuggah isn't a one listen kind of band. You will have to put in some hours of study to "get" the songs. They rarely have songs that grab you on the first listen in my opinion.
I gave them a try years ago and couldn't understand what people were so enthralled with. Now I get it.
Listen to the album version of "Bleed" b/c the music video actually cuts it short. "Lethargica" is my favorite of the ObZen album. Its really slow and heavy with the nastiest breakdown I've ever heard.
@@oldscratch3535 I have plenty more meshuggah on the list, and im excited to hear them. And get to understand the sound!