As a drummer it will get you going. But might take from longevity of honey pot of meshuggah reactions. Earlier albums reactions better way of getting into the actual music
I would be too...plus another one of the greatest bands: Opeth...In Flames is great too! At the Gates(?) That's just off the top of my head and I'm from Texas. Meshuggah, though, is really special because it's like 5 extremely talented/borderline genius guys formed a band...and as Marten said "weird that we all wanted to do the exact same thing." Tomas barely changes the drum parts that whoever writes the riff programs because it's so close to how he would play it anyway; when he writes a song it's just slightly more rhythmically complex. On _Nothing_ Marten and Fred's writing are almost indistinguishable. After that Marten would be their most prolific writer.
@@EgoblivionIn the 90's and early 2000s, I believe metal was Sweden's biggest export, and great bands and music was just flourishing. 😅 Like you said, In Flames, At the Gates but also bands like Opeth, Soilwork, The Haunted, Hammerfall, the list goes on.
Yeah, Thomas Haake is one of the best for sure.🤘🏻 I didn't know this before but apparently he practiced for this song 6 months until he could finally play it live. The band wasn't sure at first if they wanted the track on the album since it's so freaking hard to play. Crazy stuff.😃 Great at polyrhythms.👌🏻
Honestly.... when I first heard "Bleed" when the album dropped, I thought there was no way they would ever play it live. I figured it had to be one of those "studio only" songs like "I" was. I was utterly gape-jawed when I saw them for the Obzen tour and they actually did.
Saw them live in their birthplace (Umeå) in Sweden. Not a single note was out of line. They tour the world but always also tour their hometown aswell, love that.
Each set of high hats has its own tone and function. I have 2 independent risers and each one is hydraulic so I can basically put them where ever on my set I want and still close them off
Oh fancy hydraulic hi hats there Bobby lol that's sick man I never liked those like cable attached ones though I don't know it always freaked me out. You've seen my old set with the clunky ass stands but I have seen like arm clamps with those hydraulic hi hats on them that were sick.
Not only is this the most complicated drum beat ever, It is also incredibly catchy, hypnotic. That is an amazing feat. When music gets too technically complex, you usually loose the groove. Here, not so.
One thing that helps this is that there's almost always at least one instrument hammering out a 4/4 beat, whether it's the cymbals and snare, the lead guitar, or the vocals, which anchors it a lot more than other math-y rock and metal bands.
Thoughts going out to Tomas right now, he has been battling a skin condition on the inside of his hands for some time and he mentioned its getting really painful to continue playing drums. Youll notice he is wearing gloves to protect his hands.
actually i believe is more complicated than fear factory on that part... factory plays on time mostly, meshuggah plays mostly composed measures... whic makes em unique
Stop comparing Meshuggah with other Bands and start comparing other Bands with Meshuggah. They are 35 years in that business and made Metal what it is today. All the other bands you named wouldn't exist without Meshuggah or at least wouldn't sound like the way they do..
If I'm not mistaken, I think he was still suffering with a herniated disc when this was filmed...I know for a fact he played shows with a herniated disc...have trouble wrapping my head around that...he's so good, Jesus.....
Tomas is on another level. There’s like one crash and he uses various ride cymbals as crash cymbals. He’s so laid back with everything. Even when people are asking him about polyrhythms, he’s like ahh it’s just 4/4 i just mix it up or something along those line’s
lol yeah he is incredible. I had a bunch of people in the comments of this video refer to his footwork and the Herta technique but like maybe I'm old school for the bass drums we called that triplets and the herta was a snare 4 note on a bar like the first note used was on something else like a tom or a cymbal then 1-3 on snare but I'm not deep into music theory though so.
Tomas Haake is a big fan of Gene Hoglan, also known for playing open handed and being super technical with his feet. Maybe thats why he does it. He could put the sticks in between his toes for all i care, whatever he does it fucking works.
As far as his style goes... he literally had to RE-learn how to play drums just to get completely through this song. Not to mention over 6 months of practice re-training his legs for the double bass (left leg single time and right leg double time) and doing multiple recording takes on each section to make it sound flawless for the album. Even afterword it took a while until he could finally play through entirely front to back live (ironically he said in an interview he felt this performance was not his best work!)
Hey brother great job on the reaction at 1st I was overwhelmed by the technical "jargon", but went back and listened watched again unbiased and really enjoyed everything... great drum video to react to is Tim "Herb" Alexander: Chicago drum clinic. Multiple stuff on there; pick your faves I trust you, sort of 🤔
Im a bit proud of them, being swedish myself. Stupid, I know. Well, thought you’d like this clip. Tomas showing his live drumset: ruclips.net/video/2Rsu8ji2bqc/видео.html
No problem, thought you’d like it. Personally I have no idea what he’s talking about, not being a drummer. I couldnt keep a beat even if my life depended on it! But I like Tomas, he’s a very talented drummer and a kind, funny guy from Sweden.
This provided more info to a non-drummer than I've seen (guitarist). Great job. And, having seen them in concert and taken theatrical lighting in college, they are certainly playing on a click track. Nothing wrong with it. It's impossible to play this and keep the lighting effects they employ without one.
so i think it's worth mentioning to you the drummer who inspired THaake as a much younger man--Cynic drummer Sean Reinert, who died in 2020. he played drums for Death in what i consider their best and most game-changing album in their discog, HUMAN. he was one of the first drummers to really take death metal drumming into a much more technical and jazz-influenced area. with Human, Reinert (just 19 during recording) threw down the gauntlet for all other drummers who wanted to do more than just blastbeats and get a good calf workout. there's a video about him that includes interviews with Haake, Gene Hoglan, and many other drummers, who basically all said that this KID, younger than all of them back in 1992-93, showed them all up and forced them to up their games. actually there are more than one video...but i think this is the one i'm thinking of: ruclips.net/video/iKJdCM-ngGE/видео.html one of the first lines was Haake saying he and his band sitting and listening to Death's Human, then having them turn to him and say, "We want you to play like THAT." his reply: "Me too."
Haake: Plays the hardest song to play live
Stephen: Oh, using a ride as a crash and three hi-hats? That’s interesting
Sorry but they havent played "I" live
@@TaintedPrincepsAnd they never will.
They freely admit that it's a "studio only" song.
i laughed so hard after reading this
Doesn’t even notice the switch ups 🤦🏾♂️
its not the hardest
Their live show is unparalleled. You barely see their faces. Just insane light work with five shadowy viking-esque silhouettes standing over you.
Watch the clockworks playthrough ;)
Most definitely!! I agree
+1
As a drummer it will get you going. But might take from longevity of honey pot of meshuggah reactions. Earlier albums reactions better way of getting into the actual music
Its probably been mentioned already but your wall decoration there brings up Clockworks
This band makes me proud to be a swede 😅
Sweden is nest of greatest bands!
I would be too...plus another one of the greatest bands: Opeth...In Flames is great too! At the Gates(?) That's just off the top of my head and I'm from Texas. Meshuggah, though, is really special because it's like 5 extremely talented/borderline genius guys formed a band...and as Marten said "weird that we all wanted to do the exact same thing." Tomas barely changes the drum parts that whoever writes the riff programs because it's so close to how he would play it anyway; when he writes a song it's just slightly more rhythmically complex. On _Nothing_ Marten and Fred's writing are almost indistinguishable. After that Marten would be their most prolific writer.
@@EgoblivionIn the 90's and early 2000s, I believe metal was Sweden's biggest export, and great bands and music was just flourishing. 😅 Like you said, In Flames, At the Gates but also bands like Opeth, Soilwork, The Haunted, Hammerfall, the list goes on.
I wonder what it is about Sweden that just makes great bands? Meshuggah, Opeth, Vildhjarta, At the Gates, Amon Amarth to name a few.
Yeah, Thomas Haake is one of the best for sure.🤘🏻 I didn't know this before but apparently he practiced for this song 6 months until he could finally play it live. The band wasn't sure at first if they wanted the track on the album since it's so freaking hard to play. Crazy stuff.😃 Great at polyrhythms.👌🏻
True statement!!! There's an interview on RUclips where he describes writing drum parts he wasn't even sure he could pull off! Awesome!
Imagine trying to play this as a game. I think the few millisecond input lag of the keyboard or controller would be enough to make it impossible.
@@manictiger For sure.😂 God, that would be horrendous.😅
Honestly.... when I first heard "Bleed" when the album dropped, I thought there was no way they would ever play it live.
I figured it had to be one of those "studio only" songs like "I" was.
I was utterly gape-jawed when I saw them for the Obzen tour and they actually did.
I read that one of them guitarist wrote the drums, then Thomas learned it on 6 months to play that damn thing
Legend has it that metronomes are being calculated by Thomas playing.
they set they atomic clock by his feet
"This is my drumset, I use it as a crash" - tomas haake
Lol right
😂
You look like a friend. Thanx for the obcenely pure positive reaction. Hahaaa. I am a fan. Uiiiii
Saw them live in their birthplace (Umeå) in Sweden. Not a single note was out of line.
They tour the world but always also tour their hometown aswell, love that.
There's legends about metronomes listening to Haake to keep tempo.
Each set of high hats has its own tone and function. I have 2 independent risers and each one is hydraulic so I can basically put them where ever on my set I want and still close them off
Oh fancy hydraulic hi hats there Bobby lol that's sick man I never liked those like cable attached ones though I don't know it always freaked me out. You've seen my old set with the clunky ass stands but I have seen like arm clamps with those hydraulic hi hats on them that were sick.
@@Killermcknight I was skeptical at first but when I got into more like lamb of god and more doomy stuff it was a game changer.
Best band ever!!!
It took him 3 months of practice to feel comfortable enough to play this live.
"This sounds like *insert band here*" m8, Meshuggah wrote the book on this stuff.
The items on the wall behind are perfect for a clockworks reaction 🤣
Not only is this the most complicated drum beat ever,
It is also incredibly catchy, hypnotic.
That is an amazing feat. When music gets too technically complex, you usually loose the groove.
Here, not so.
One thing that helps this is that there's almost always at least one instrument hammering out a 4/4 beat, whether it's the cymbals and snare, the lead guitar, or the vocals, which anchors it a lot more than other math-y rock and metal bands.
U shouldn't have said that Maybe just after Jens..
Made me laugh so hard 😭😭😭
There's a meme when Tomas says: ,,This is my band, I use it as a crash." 😅😁
Awesome man! Glad to see you back. Enjoyed the drum speak...
Thanks man this was pre covid though I haven't recorded anything new yet 😪
The breakdown of what all the cymbals are used for was really useful.
Thoughts going out to Tomas right now, he has been battling a skin condition on the inside of his hands for some time and he mentioned its getting really painful to continue playing drums. Youll notice he is wearing gloves to protect his hands.
The NOSTRUM PLAY THROUGH
actually i believe is more complicated than fear factory on that part... factory plays on time mostly, meshuggah plays mostly composed measures... whic makes em unique
Haake is crazy good. Egevney from STP has a couple drum playthroughs as does Austin Archey of Lorna Shore and Yannic Bercier of Gone in April.
Great reaction! Please more of Meshuggah, you will eventually fall in love
Thank you! Will do!
song is so hard they almost didn't put it on the album. it took him 6 months to learn.
"... maybe."
you, sir, win every internet in the history of forever.
The drum kit is a Sonor SQ2
Stop comparing Meshuggah with other Bands and start comparing other Bands with Meshuggah. They are 35 years in that business and made Metal what it is today. All the other bands you named wouldn't exist without Meshuggah or at least wouldn't sound like the way they do..
If I'm not mistaken, I think he was still suffering with a herniated disc when this was filmed...I know for a fact he played shows with a herniated disc...have trouble wrapping my head around that...he's so good, Jesus.....
Changed Jobs so I'm catching up on your channel, so this is the best one to dive into
No problem Gary, congratulations!!
He’s using a china at the beginning. He uses mostly rides for crashes though. Mr. Haake is a bad ass!🤘🏻🤘🏻
How do you make recommendations/submissions for videos to review?
Also Thomas runs a sonor set. I had a similar set up for a while before I transitioned back to my pearls
The black pearl set you had?
@@Killermcknight no those got destroyed in a fire unfortunately. I bought a red snakeskin set
Greatest drummer to ever be born
It’s a sonar kit he uses
LOVE the Frar Factory shout out too
Tomas is on another level. There’s like one crash and he uses various ride cymbals as crash cymbals.
He’s so laid back with everything. Even when people are asking him about polyrhythms, he’s like ahh it’s just 4/4 i just mix it up or something along those line’s
lol yeah he is incredible. I had a bunch of people in the comments of this video refer to his footwork and the Herta technique but like maybe I'm old school for the bass drums we called that triplets and the herta was a snare 4 note on a bar like the first note used was on something else like a tom or a cymbal then 1-3 on snare but I'm not deep into music theory though so.
Tomas Haake is a big fan of Gene Hoglan, also known for playing open handed and being super technical with his feet. Maybe thats why he does it. He could put the sticks in between his toes for all i care, whatever he does it fucking works.
As far as his style goes... he literally had to RE-learn how to play drums just to get completely through this song.
Not to mention over 6 months of practice re-training his legs for the double bass (left leg single time and right leg double time) and doing multiple recording takes on each section to make it sound flawless for the album. Even afterword it took a while until he could finally play through entirely front to back live (ironically he said in an interview he felt this performance was not his best work!)
7:28 ye right?
It's almost like Nico from Iron Maiden 💪
- Stay Blessed -
🙏❤✌
Hey brother great job on the reaction at 1st I was overwhelmed by the technical "jargon", but went back and listened watched again unbiased and really enjoyed everything... great drum video to react to is Tim "Herb" Alexander: Chicago drum clinic. Multiple stuff on there; pick your faves I trust you, sort of 🤔
Best tickets i could have bought
Im a bit proud of them, being swedish myself. Stupid, I know. Well, thought you’d like this clip. Tomas showing his live drumset:
ruclips.net/video/2Rsu8ji2bqc/видео.html
Oh damn that's sick thanks for posting this!
No problem, thought you’d like it. Personally I have no idea what he’s talking about, not being a drummer. I couldnt keep a beat even if my life depended on it! But I like Tomas, he’s a very talented drummer and a kind, funny guy from Sweden.
Yeah man love this lil vid
Tomas don't use a ride. Sonar drum set.
Just a beast
This provided more info to a non-drummer than I've seen (guitarist). Great job. And, having seen them in concert and taken theatrical lighting in college, they are certainly playing on a click track. Nothing wrong with it. It's impossible to play this and keep the lighting effects they employ without one.
Actually there’s been videos of the guy who does the lights. And he plays them live.
Check out: Meshuggah Light Operator Paris
Lemme tell you something. Check out Arch Enemy when they were death metal. The first 2 or 3 albums with Johan Liiva on vocals. They were scary good.
No click track... he's just that good.
so i think it's worth mentioning to you the drummer who inspired THaake as a much younger man--Cynic drummer Sean Reinert, who died in 2020. he played drums for Death in what i consider their best and most game-changing album in their discog, HUMAN. he was one of the first drummers to really take death metal drumming into a much more technical and jazz-influenced area. with Human, Reinert (just 19 during recording) threw down the gauntlet for all other drummers who wanted to do more than just blastbeats and get a good calf workout.
there's a video about him that includes interviews with Haake, Gene Hoglan, and many other drummers, who basically all said that this KID, younger than all of them back in 1992-93, showed them all up and forced them to up their games. actually there are more than one video...but i think this is the one i'm thinking of:
ruclips.net/video/iKJdCM-ngGE/видео.html
one of the first lines was Haake saying he and his band sitting and listening to Death's Human, then having them turn to him and say, "We want you to play like THAT." his reply: "Me too."
Don't miss Clockworks and Nostrum playthrough, Better!
You should check out "Means to an end" by Eloy Casagrande! It's sick!
take a look at The Ocean Collective, Paul Seidel's playthrough of Jurassic
it's amazing :D
Please reaction "OKI FADHLAN" Jasad drummer from Indonesia Dude.... Mantaps 🇮🇩☕ 🙏
like the "tss-tss-tss-tss"
🤣🤣 yes lmao
Fear Factory comparison is made sort of into the wrong direction. Fear Factory sounds like Meshuggah, not the other way around.
You know you have to do the Clockworks drum playthrough now. Thems the rules.
This is the best breakdown, explanation, and reaction I’ve seen to this ever!! I love that you mentioned Fear Factory
💯💯💯
To believe that the guitars and bass aren't "gated" to the kick drums...
tama
He plays a Sonor
Listen "Devil's name is surveillance" from the same band, insane drums
he plays sonor drum kit
You need to do the Clockworks one.
I was a lil to into it messhuggah lamb of god new Orleans house of blues
That drum set was sent from the lord of darkness you can't buy it!
Thomas plays Sonor drums and evans drumheads and use vincent drumsticks
In two words, it's "Total Control"
Gojira: more melody and changes and sometimes heavier I think. These two bands are fans from each others work and do coöperate sometimes.
Did you just say, playing the high-hat how it's supposed to be played? XD
“Drummer” comes off more like drum tech. Nothing about the composition just the set up they have
Who else was there ohh alexi laihoon children of bodom
The lyrics are a big part. Not to be missed.
I was a lil to into it
I got kicked out the concert
Why sticking on his equipement? You didnt talk about his foot work!!
Danny Carey - Penuma
Do you even hear the bass drums? Your to focused on the top gear.
Check out Alex Rudinger...
Fear
please use the word ''untraditional'' instead of ''weird''.
All this time spent talking about the ride cymbal when there's none ! :D
There is only 1 crash and The rest are rides that he uses as crashes:p think he said that in a drum explination.
@@doyle590 Yes, but he uses none as a crash
Meshuggah doesn't sound like anybody.
it is a china, in the right side
Watch Alex bent betrayer drum session this is nothing believe me
Thomas Hey-key
lol thank you so much! I know I was butchering his name!
sonor
Lots of ads. Lots.
But still a good commentary, I just hate ads right this second for interrupting.
You're pausing too much. Bye
Lol drum machines are way better!
Bleed inspired me to give my drumset to charity…. Or I would’ve burned it due to the endless frustration
Who else was there ohh alexi laihoon children of bodom